Natives Land Grabbed Systematically By Land Pirates Of Sarawak

By Pribumi Sarawak

YB Lim Kit Siang,

In Sarawak NCR lands are ignored and not respected, in the name of politics of development, which will make the rich richer and the poor natives poorer. The big developments are owned by shareholders who are already rich and Taib Mahmud’s cronies with the revenues / profits are shared among these few shareholders.

Their politics of development is to enrich themselves, self interest and great greed. Now they have deforested the Rajang forests – no more timber to harvest, so they go for native lands whether Temuda, Pemakai menoa, Pulau etc, they simply don’t care.

Taib is nearing his term now and in process to create a dynasty in Sarawak. His son will take over PBB, become chairman & thereafter CM of Sarawak. For the transition period, he may place his YB brother to take over. The manipulations, self-interest & greed will continue. The village people in Sarawak, most of them having no formal education will still vote for Taib coz support from rural areas with cash in election time will be on-going. Taib is great manipulator & having vast cronies here.

They have felled all the timber in Sarawak. Now they go for natives land. For land, they make use of Sarawak Land & Survey Department (SLSD) to get land as they wish. They just walk in SLSD office and choose which land area they want. Form a company for the purpose. Then the company will apply for land. The application will be processed/approved. They will comply with all procedures kononnya, ill-intention all things have been pre-arranged & prefixed.

Then SLSD will survey the land area, give notice through newspaper with description of land the village people will certainly not recognise or aware of. The procedure is legalized & provisional land title is issued by SLSD to the company. They legalised the taking of natives land which is outright robbery. They are robbers & pirates!!

They won’t inform the affected villagers for they don’t want them to know. Unlike the good intention of getting peoples land for genuine purpose of building bridges, roads, infrastructures etc, the villagers were informed and notices sent to kampungs & long houses for them to stake claims, but for purpose of land acquisition for companies things were done in secrecy. It was the other way round.

They confuse people by saying govt never grab peoples land. True but only those genuine purposes for public amenities but not for purpose of land to be given to their companies. That’s the difference here. They confuse the people here with this saying by YB Awang Tengah that govt never take peoples land!!. What a liar. The villagers will never be informed of their evil intention and the company will be sending bulldozers & tractors to the newly acquired land. When they see buldozers, tractors etc only then the natives will know.

Villages will lodge complaints to SLDS, District Office, Police, YBs – the answer is the land acquisition is already legal, nothing much can be done!!! The advice given was “you all (villagers) need to negotiate with the company, minta kasihan mereka!!!! Imagine your own property – your land grabbed by the eagles then minta kasihan. What right do they have?.

That’s the damned reply. That’s Taib’s administration here. He has hijacked the government institution. Since no one to turn to, so natives will try to stop the bulldozing of their rubber gardens, farms, empty land which is their “temuda” & “pemakai menoa” themselves. They have no money to fight this legally. Even then they can hardly win coz here all land belongs to state government.

The onus of proof is on the natives. In actual fact it should be those people who is taking natives land to prove the land is indeed not NCR. Our ancestors all have died, their has been no documentation in 1900s just NCR status accord by the land code.

Here natives are not allowed to survey their NCR land but the government can. Even if natives want to survey their NCR land first they need to prove land is planted 90%+ with crops, ok fair enough , then provided the area is not marked for development. Even then SLSD will not give land title to natives.

You know the SLSD, state gov has been hijacked by the pirates, Taib is the one-eyed pirate leader here. He is worst than the Somalia pirates.The rich and influential shareholders will have a very big piece of land for 60 years or more…which is not theirs in the first place.The few rich shareholders will have millions in revenues/profits.

So YB, this is happening everywhere in Sarawak now, natives are being evicted from their land now. Let me give you one of the real scenarios going on now at Serian under Muara Tuang DUN constituency (Taib’s brother) which is under Kota Samarahan Parliament constituency (Taib’s son). They plundered natives land there now under their proxies.

One of the NCR areas given to Usaha Jasamaju Sendirian Berhad, company number 660630-K. locality of land: between batang samarahan and Ensengei road, Serian. Area:354.00000 Ha, more or less convert to Mixed Zone land from 6/12/2006-5/12/2066. Lot number 00890, map sheet number: N5-13-1(5.1) TRN: 08-LCPLS-016-000-00890, Prov. Lease of state land – C. Remarks: Alienation of Land vide L.&S.80 No.69/2006, Svy. Job No.125/2006, DLS’s approval ref: 15/HQ/AL?103/2005(8D) dated 19.10.2006 & SLS’s ref: 15/SD.Doss.NO.AL/34/2006 issued at request of Ting Tiu Gung.

The village people who have been staying there since generations even before the Sarawak Government existed were never informed nor consulted – what more to be invited to have some shares and together participate develop the land there.

When the SLSD survey the areas for 1 month more or less, it was done in total secrecy. When village people ask them, no one would talk or answer. If there is answer they would lie to them. Now they are bulldozing peoples’ land, rubber trees with no regard to natives rights who actually own the land. They bersikap kurang ajar!!

Please YB, help address the issues of land belonging to natives in Sarawak urgently, a lot of lands now being plundered and taken from them right under their noses for Taib’s richness, cronies’ self-gains, greed at the expense of natives. This is only one case, there are many more. More tears of natives befell the land now.

The state government institution has been totally hijacked by Taib & his cronies here. He totally make use of this opportunity. The good example is the land described above. Now they are bulldozing the land, rubber trees, temuda, pemakai menoa, pulau without regard to peoples feelings as fellow human beings – the villagers are helpless now.

Bring this native land issue up to the attention of the whole country – so that the nation knows what Taib is doing here!!! he has hijacked the State Government for greed.

Do something now YB. Don’t be too busy with Semenanjung politics only.

Thank you, YB. God bless you.

  1. #1 by delon85 on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 7:46 pm

    Seems to me like another greedy person plundering resources meant for everyone. Unfortunately, this is all seemingly too well played. One can only see whats coming.

    First, when questions are being put forward about this whole thing, an “investigation” will be carried out. Of course everyone knows that the investigation is a cover and no actual investigation is being done. Then when questioned again, evasive answers are given and excuses of compiling “reports” are given to buy more time. As time goes by, this whole thing will be forgotten as expected and its business as usual. What else can you expect from a CM of 27 years? I’m sure he got used to this.

    It all seemed hopeless to do anything other than to voice out, which I’m sure leads to nowhere as well. As pessimistic as the whole comment sounded, I really do hope something concrete can be done.

  2. #2 by ringthetill on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 8:21 pm

    I’m exasperated and at a loss. Is there really nothing that can be done in Malaysia to stop all injustices and ensure accountability? We are living in Moral Dilemma.

  3. #3 by monsterball on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 8:28 pm

    How many times we have heard this before?
    Now from a Sarawak man.
    UMNO wants proofs….all the time.
    Even their very own UMNO well respected Tengku Ahamad Ritthauddeen said UMNO is corrupted to the core..not enough.
    And the ever thick skinned sly fox….Mahathir is agreeing…EXCLUDING himself!!
    Just look at how Mahathir behaves and think…..then you can see…what level of dirty politics UMNO have advanced to.
    When a State or a country have clear very rich and very poor….that’s proof enough….especially when all the rich are from one race their relatives and friends..and some fortunate.. UMNO members only.
    We have seen enough…heard enough….yet those devils in disguises…can hold their heads high with false titles….with not one sign of regrets nor shame at all.
    They are so greedy for power and stolen money….keep acting and fooling the helpless Malaysians….forcing the very poor to bow down to them….as saviors and lords of the country.
    These uneducated poor souls…must be awakened to the truths.
    The end of UMNO depends on the 2 millions new educated voters…to give hopes to the very poor…..and helpless.
    Not only it is compulsory to vote UMNO out…but it is the duty of all sincere level headed voters….to stop being selfish and being brainwashed by UMNO on dirty low class..race and religion politics and once everyone supports a united Malaysian country…knowing…that’s good for every Malaysian…UMNO is exposed and finished.
    It boils down to our attitudes….mentalities.
    Above all….will those that voted for change in government….be constant and more to come…to join us and finally vote a total change of government.
    Regardless…..right or is very wrong and down right selfish.. to allow one party to keep governing our country…to the extend..they think they own it…and we are their subjects.
    Why must so many Malaysian voters fall into UMNO’s traps…for decades??

  4. #4 by tuanlokong on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 8:41 pm

    Sad it is happening in many areas yet none of the natives is right. Some even could not go to their farm because half way foot path land now belongs to some Companies…

  5. #5 by aiD_kamikuP on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 9:03 pm

    This looting, pillaging and plundering did NOT happen only yesterday or last month or last year!! Everyone – Sarawak natives, Sarawakians, Semenanjung people all knew this had been going on for yonks.

    After all these years of injustice, what happened at the 12th GE? 30 out of 31 Sarawak Parliamentary seats went to BN!!

    The clock had ago struck thirteen o’clock! It’s well past waking up time, but NEVER too late.

  6. #6 by aiD_kamikuP on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 9:07 pm

    The clock had LONG ago….

  7. #7 by Godfather on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 9:10 pm

    I remembered the days of Bakun when Ting Pek Khiing was riding high and Ekran was giving the right to build the dam. The Sarawak department of the environment had the temerity to question the completeness of the Ekran Environmental Impact Assessment, and the director was summarily transferred. Ekran went on to log the areas around the dam – even before the EIA was approved. That area was the size of Singapore.

    Then when the crunch came in 1998 via the currency crisis, and the deal was taken over by the federal government, Ekran lodged a bill for “work done” on site, and this resulted in Mahathir approving RM 800 million of compensation to Ting.

    Fast forward to today. Sime Darby withdrew from the Bakun project, and now the government is stuck with literally a hole in the ground. The Penan lands have been acquired, and the natives displaced. No compensation to the displaced people have been forthcoming. Now Taib is trying to repeat the Ekran formula with the proposed construction of 11 (yes, eleven) more dams. Supposedly the dams will produce cheap energy for aluminium smelters – the very things that first world countries are trying to avoid for the toxicity.

    When will the stealing stop ? When will the local people wake up and vote out this merry band of thieves ?

  8. #8 by bentoh on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 10:00 pm

    I would like to recommend a very interesting film, “What rainforest, subtitle: Wake up and smell the palm oil”, that I got to watch during the Freedom Film Festival…

    The film is mainly describing the natives land (Natives Customary Right, NCR Land) situation in Sarawak… :)

  9. #9 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 10:41 pm

    This a big intractable problem. Not just the issue of respecting natives’ human dignity synonymous with their political and civil rights deprived : but their plight is also that of environmentalists’ concerned that without the rain forests, not just the natives, but eventually the rest of us will also be dead!

    Rapacious politicians and their business cronies grabbing the lands for profit (timber cutting & palm oil/cocoa, bauxite smelting) is one thing – these however cannot be so easily facilitated unless it is also a fact that laws and legal regime (since white Rajah’s days) relating to native land tenure are weak, confusing, been neglected or not kept up with times & socio-economic changes.

    To the un-initiated Sarawak laws on land tenure are a mosaic giving nightmares to even the legally trained….

    Pribumi Sarawak lamented, “the onus of proof is on the natives. In actual fact it should be those people who is taking natives land to prove the land is indeed not NCR ( Native Customary Rights ).

    But how? It is law of the land. When in 1958, Sarawak Land Code (“code”) was promulgated, it only limited customary rights to only those lawfully created – and recognized – before 1st January 1958 : Native Area land, Native Customary land and Interior Area land, whilst all other lands in Sarawak were taken over my the State. So unless one is issued a title (by the State), one has no ownership rights, just a license to till! Natives moved from here to there under shifting cultivation and when they eventually returned to previous land left fallow, they had lost even their licence to till… Under that code, the onus to prove NCR lies with the claimant to the State and not the other way around!

    Then there is question of who is a native ie the original inhabitants. However are there many “pure” Bukitans, Bisayahs, Dusuns, Dayaks (Sea), Melanos, Muruts, Penans left with so much of Filipinos, others from Peninsular all inter marrying? Could son of a Penan mother, Chinese father be a native? Is a “pagan” native converting to Christianity or Islam still a native?

    Because of confusion, they changed rules by which who’s a native would be determined by public opinion in the community, evidence given by “responsible persons”, and the opinion of leaders of the community, which more often than not could also be “bribed” by capitalist/politicians to say you’re not!

    The law also allows Minister to exercise discretion to extinguish Native rights by payment of compensation or making other land (already subject to Native rights) available.

    In other cases, Natives misled by politicians/business cronies enter joint venture to develop their lands changing their position as landowners to workers or minor shareholders in plantation companies without knowing full implications or getting meaningful rewards. It is common practice to entice the leader or spokesman for a group of natives. Same old modus operandi for politicians and businessmen : pay the ring leaders/spokesmen a little more and they would take care of dissentient opinions and persuade the rest to sign documents selling their rights….

    Political change will help but don’t know how much by reason of innate human greed and propensity to exploit the Natives without knowledge of rights or power. Also of great importance is revamp of the present nightmarish land laws in Sarawak, clearing up the ambiguities and conflicting provisions relating to NCR that make exploitation of Natives and their rights easy.

  10. #10 by Godfather on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 10:44 pm

    …but of course the smelters are all a smokescreen for legalised logging. No need to wait for EIAs to be approved, just go ahead and log the virgin jungle. That is the way of the thieves. They would be guaranteed of cashflow for the next 20 years.

    Unless, of course, they are voted out at the next GE.

  11. #11 by m.hwang on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 10:48 pm

    sorry to digress…but does anyone know how to access Malaysia Today? seem to have a bit of problem getting in. Thanks a million Mr. Moderator.

  12. #12 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 10:59 pm

    Smelters are not a smokescreen for legalised logging. They are business interest (PLCs) from West Malaysia. They would apply/wait for EIAs to be approved. Without that they can’t raise finance from banks. Banks now will question impact on environment. That is because there’s a level of toxicity (whether aceptable or not depending on EIA) in smelting the ores necessary to fabricate metal structures for export (using labor) in other countries. The reason why smelting is done there is presence and proximity of many dams. They provide cheaper and sufficient energy needed to drive smelting plants. It is a major cost consideration. It is therefore not necessarily a front/cover for logging, though admittedly patronage of important politicians is important as the complicity of the few head representatives/spokesmen of various natives groups whose lands are to be used. . .

  13. #13 by lee wee tak_ on Sunday, 30 November 2008 - 11:45 pm

    Sorry, I have no sympathy for these voters, giving Taib votes year in year out. They deserved whatever they got, except the Kuching folks who buck the trend.

    Surprise me, Sarawakians.

  14. #14 by luking on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 12:23 am

    don’t worry,our communities definately know what to do in the next election.We will see it happens,Kit.

  15. #15 by Tonberry on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 2:15 am

    m.hwang Says:
    sorry to digress…but does anyone know how to access Malaysia Today? seem to have a bit of problem getting in. Thanks a million Mr. Moderator.

  16. #16 by disapointed86 on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 5:04 am

    To all of the readers here, pls bear in mind not to blame the native in Sarawak..I myself is a Sarawakian..the native there are not educated like you guys here, nor not much do they know about the govt..they just want a peaceful life..earn enough just to survive..i’ve been following this blog for quite some time..There are few occasion that the reader blaming the people there for voting BN..once again..we should’nt put all the blame on the what the writer said, most of the native dont have formal education..the question now “WHY”?..because of the govt misuse the state fund for their own benefit..just imagine..just much can Sarawak earn? We got petroleum, rubber, pepper, palm….to be honest..Petroleum alone is enough..IS ENOUGH..just look at Brunei..they dont have much except Petroleum..Being a Sarawakian, im so disappointed with what is happening here..if no action to be taken nor takeover..the situation wont change even till my last breath..Please something for our future generation..and for betterman of MALAYSIA as we are called MALAYSIAN..

  17. #17 by chiakchua on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 8:08 am

    The country is in such a sad state! Pity the Sarawakian and Sabahan for they have been ‘robbed’ by the UMNOputras led robbers under the pretext of development. If majority of Penans’ quality of life is near to other races in the country now, then we can believe what TDM used to said ‘the Penans had been misled by environmentalist’. However, if they are still in sorry state now, then we know TDM had been abetting the State robbers!

    UMNO dare not utters a word on what Taib is doing because they are in the same boat! All UMNOputras can only shout and show their arrogance to the Chinese and Indians while keeping mum with their ‘brothers’ in Sarawak and Sabah UMNO because they need their support to form the federal government to reap the wealth in Semenanjong!

    What a shame and shamble in the country! Make sure PR must send the 5 States leaders to make frequent ceramah in Sarawak and Sabah from now on until the next GE to vote all the BN robbers out for a ‘Just, Equal and Fair’ Malaysia!

  18. #18 by Jeffrey on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 9:05 am

    Contrast the situation with Maori. Historically they had more advantages. Colonial masters, as far back as 1800s made it a point to recognise land rights for Maori by Treaty of Waitangi, establish Maori Land Court determining ownership and allocating titles to Maori lands. Efforts were made to have a complete spatial mapping system to support the Maori land tenure records by which Maori lands were individualised (freehold) often with the initial multiple owners identified in groupings subject to clear laws on natives succession and trusts.

    By the Te Turi Whenua Maori Act 1993, retention of ownership of Maori lands by natives are encouraged whilst adressing how these lands may be made commercially viable to benefit their owners. Land is described in the Act as “taonga tuku iho” literally translated means “A treasure handed down” which emphasizes the Act’s purpose of looking to ensure that this land is retained under Maori ownership.

    Even with help of 200 years of legistative protection and administrative recording, maintenance and computerisation of Maori land tenure (better than Sarawak natives’ situation) 95% of customary Maori land has over this period since 1800s been converted to European freehold land!

    Today (after over 150 years) in spite of all the legislative protection etc only 1.3 million hectares are left as entrenched Maori lands highly valued by their native owners.

    Nowadays many natives enjoying succession of these ancestral lands are themselves educated, with many around Auckland with tertary education.

    They assert their rights extending sideways to the rivers and seas and upwards to the skies relating to their lands. The last time I was in Auckland, one native group was asserting rights to claim royalty for “wireless broadband” in skies over their land!

    The point of all these is to underscore the humongous measure of the problem, should you choose to a address it, extending far far beyond problem of BN, UMNO, Taib Administration or greedy political or corporate pirates.

    It is a myraid of all kinds of problems – of colonial history; of inadequate & unclear laws (how to integrate adhoc native tenure with national land law), difficulties of definitions of who is native; inadequate surveying, mapping of native lands, issuance and subdivision of titles, lack of broad political will not backed by informed public opinion pressing for protection of natives as heritage balanced against competing need for development and most important state of education/development of the mindset of the natives themselves ……..

  19. #19 by Bigjoe on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 9:11 am

    Land right is just the top of what is essential about private rights of the orang Asli which they have no strong concept of. The truth is the just way to deal with the orang Asli is

    1) First register them. Without registration, there is no way to ensure private rights especially private property rights.
    2) Rights of any natural resources that cover their area should be awarded to them.
    3) Programs installed to invest any profit from projects in their areas to community development.

    The SCORE program is an example where there is an opportunity. After all orang Asli are registered, cooperatives or funds should be established that has development rights of their areas including ALL logging and mineral rights. Profit from those rights should be ploughed back to projects like dams or palm oil estate which THEY HAVE first right and to fund community development ESPECIALLY education, farming and infrastructure.

    The Orang Asli need help to tranform their traditional society that do not emphasise private ownership, assets and rights to one that does.

    PR must understand that the Orang Asli is not Malay. They may be tribal BUT they are not feudal. They never had concept of taxes and royalties (now known as money politics) that fueled their politics. Its why Taib is so strong because he brought feudalism to an unfeudal society.

    The way to win the Sarawak and Sabah vote is tribal fears. If they can SCARE the Sarawakian and Sabahan that BN programs will DRIVE them away from their rights then they will vote PR. And it will, its inevitable because BN cannot think outside the box that the natives of Sarawak and Sabah concept of private rights and asset is more dilute and hence naturally has poor defense against their machining.

    Taib and UMNO plan for dams and other big projects is perfect for scaring the living daylights out of the tribes of Sarawak and Sabah and the time is right to spin it for all its worth. PR offer of more oil & gas royalties for Sabah is just a first step, they need to emphasise ownership and community self-development as part of their offer. Give immigration back to Sabah control for example. In Sarawak, mineral and logging rights to the orang Asli and ownership of dams and palm oil estate. Consider even land reservation even a casino for Sabahan that will pay all non-Malay, non-Chinese, non-Indian a piece of the royalties and pay for education and social programs just like the natives of American Indians.

  20. #20 by madmix on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 11:31 am

    Being poorly educated, the natives of Sarawak are easily swayed to vote BN. They cannot see the bigger picture; what they see is the rice on his plate, milk for the babies: his immediate needs. So every election, whoever can give building materials, food, beer, cash or whatever, has the upper hand. The educated dayaks have moved to the urban areas and they vote in urban constituencies.
    It is an almost impossible task to sway the Dayaks to vote for the poorly funded opposition. Unless some charismatic Dayak opposition leader can emerge to unite them, like Joseph pairin did for the Kadazans some time back; I don’t see any.

  21. #21 by bobiee on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 12:49 pm

    The land, timber, coal and other resources in the haven called Sarawak will be diminshed by the year 2020 when Malaysia reaches a promised paradise called developed. Oh my god why are we geared for this status (on paper) but our resources are sipped and stolen during broad daylight by our own chosen ones? Sarawakians must wake up ,open their eyes broadly and do something about this theft, robbery and vampires. A democracy promises freedom of choice, expression and thoughts – mature, independent thinking and love for this homeland. Let us manifest this in the coming elections.

  22. #22 by king cobra on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 2:38 pm

    lee wee tak_ Says:

    Yesterday at 23: 45.11
    Sorry, I have no sympathy for these voters, giving Taib votes year in year out. They deserved whatever they got

    Wee Tak ,

    pls be mindful when u make this comment , the ppl of sarawak are already in pain & now with this comment i assume u are adding salt to the ppl’s wound.

    i somehow do agree with “disappointed 86” views the natives are either poorly educated or totally illiterate , can’t totally blame the natives , they have long been brained washed by the BN G’s & T’s,
    look how its been 45yrs how much petroleum $ have we EM been contributing to WM , they have used our money to develop WM at EM’s expense , what did we get in return after joing malaya to form malaysia ?

    next point , better educated Sabahans & Sarawakians had chosen to leave their home states to study or work , some capable EM ppl had also renouced their citizenship to take up foreign citizenship , EM ppl especially younger generations who study overseas & upon graduation had chosen to work & live overseas not returning to contribute to the EM states , therefore population in EM is getting thinner , less voters , who would bother to fly back to EM just to cast their votes ?

    next point voting is not compulsory in malaysia , unlike singapore or some other countries its compulsory , assuming if malaysia makes voting mandatory for all citizens/eligible voters , i think the results may have swing a little……… all oveseas based malaysians had to fly back to their respective states to cast their ballots or exercise voting at their respective foreign countries malaysian embassies …….

    think about it

    Thank You

  23. #23 by ryan123 on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 3:46 pm

    I am sorry for Mr Lee to be present in this country. Full sympathy…for him.

  24. #24 by Yee Siew Wah on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 3:49 pm

    The people of East Malaysia especially Sarawak has been taken for a ride for more than 50+ years by those so-called Ketuaan Melayu in West Malaysia. And yet they still vote them to power. What a pity. It is high time for them to wake up and fight back what have been taken from them like oil royalties, NCR, rights etc…and most important their dignity. They must work with PKR to save them from these evil schemes of West malaysia.
    Please wake up and fight back before immigrants from Indonesia, Philipines, etc.. replace them as Sarawakians..

  25. #25 by shortie kiasu on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 4:36 pm

    Despite all the ‘rapes’ that were going on for ages in front of their eyes, the people of Sarawak and Sabah never failed to vote in the BN candidates faithfull every general election in the past.

    So the people has to act themselves and not indulge in self pity now that the ravages are getting more blatant.

  26. #26 by king cobra on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 5:24 pm

    Dear Siew Wah ,

    I think Sabah’s illegal immigrants problem is more serious than Sarawak’s , the number of illegals from philippines is still relatively high in the state despite the recent clampdowns , just a matter of time they will will soon replace us as Sabahans if the clampdowns is discontinued after sometime .

    During DRM’s time there wasn’t much clampdowns on illegals , tat is why some illegals had became phantom voters & this allows BN to keep themselves in power for so long……not tat EM ppl dun wan to vote for opposition ,

    308 elections opposition had spent most of their time campaigning in WM is another factor for consideration……


  27. #27 by ReformMalaysia on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 6:50 pm

    “Land Pirates Of Sarawak”
    ….the problem is these pirate have the ‘licence to grab land!

    Would Sarawakians renew this licence in the coming state election?

    Are Sarawakians happy with the 5% petroleum royalty while Sarawak have the worst infrastructure in Malaysia? – Answer that in the coming state election too!

  28. #28 by lee wee tak_ on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 8:05 pm

    king cobra, ryan

    read my comment carefully. I am challenging Sarawakians to change.

    one reap what one sows, hopefully there is enough pain to wake them up.

  29. #29 by king cobra on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 8:40 pm

    Dear Wee Tak ,

    i’m brreak it up of what u have written : 1st paragraph of wat u wrote , i assume its already an adding salt to the wounds.

    yr last sentence : “surprise me” u are throwing a challenge to all sarawakians.


    Dear Reform Malaysia ,

    as i had stressed in my earlier comments , better educated , capable & younger generations of EM ppl had left their home states for overseas , be it migration , work , study or had renounced their malaysian citizenships & go for foreign citizenships , with such ppl leaving population of course will shrink a bit , moreover voting in malaysia is not compulsory , would malaysians based overseas bother to return just to vote / vote at their foreign based malaysian embassies ?


  30. #30 by lee wee tak_ on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 8:50 pm

    thanks King, U r the MAN, U r the KING

    Sarawakians, pay back time!

    Go and ask Kenny Sia who to vote for!

  31. #31 by no on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 9:22 pm

    I do not know sarawak now is muslim state or christian state.

    I hope sarawakians be warned if you still are christian state.

    Sabah before 1973, it was a christian state.

    and now it is a Muslim state.

    Who converted it? you check it out, you should know.

  32. #32 by disapointed86 on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 9:28 pm

    lee wee tak_ Says:
    Yesterday at 23: 45.11

    Sorry, I have no sympathy for these voters, giving Taib votes year in year out. They deserved whatever they got, except the Kuching folks who buck the trend.

    Surprise me, Sarawakians.

    Lee, Being in here already proved you’re educated..knowing the most basic concept of IT…but have u ever wonder what do the native in Sawawak know??..yet u said “i have no sypmathy for these voters”..I am not totally against you but somehow we must see the bigger picture what is may be not a Swkian but i am..PLEASE bear in mind most of the native once again do NOT have formal education..some cant even read or write..i doubt the number of native having completed their form 5 or even primary 6..
    YOur intention maybe not in the way you’ve said..but maybe as a Malaysian, at least we show sympathy to them..i’m not blaming on the WM for not knowing the problems..i can say that MOST of WM are UNAWARE of what happening there…even Uncle Kit don’t talk that much about Swk compare to other states..^^…

  33. #33 by lee wee tak_ on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 10:08 pm

    ok-lah, disapointed86, remember the movie “Fugitive” starring Tommy Lee Jones and Harrison Ford. In the damn, Dr Kimble said, “I did not kill my wife!” Tommy Lee’s character replied, “I don’t care!” Later when it was all over, Dr Kimble asked a tenderly Jones, “I thought you did not care!” With a smile, Tommy Lee’s character replied, “actually I do, but don’t tell anybody.”

    Look, I can imagine too. I went to KK before. Even people in WM do not know what it is like to live in a country where the government is clean and caring. I lived in Hong Kong and Singapore before. When I see Malaysians so darn ignorant on what they are missing out, I feel sorry for their sorry asses. Really. So much potential not fulfilled. So much hardship that could have been avoided.

    But correct me if I am wrong. A lot of voters, East and West Malaysians, deem their votes are worth a sack of rice or RM50, right?

    Well how do we educate them? Simple people, simple environment, no exposure.

    Unless we get people in the know to go back and spread the truth, then there is no way in hell that PR can make inroads into cast iron controlled state of Sarawak.

    Heck, even people in N Sembilan, Melaka, Johor, Pahang, Terengganu and Perlis are together in this

  34. #34 by kentutoyol on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 10:15 pm

    The rich man makes the law that the poor man must defend.

    This is not who our fore fathers want.

    They will rise from their graves!

    PR is coming to Sarawak and our fore fathers can rest in peace.

  35. #35 by pkrisnin on Monday, 1 December 2008 - 10:57 pm

    Look like no UMNOPutra has made their statement yet, I what cintanegara has to say about this. How will he justify this.

  36. #36 by king cobra on Tuesday, 2 December 2008 - 12:50 am

    Wee Tak ,

    though i’m not well educated as u , i don’t need to go round asking people on who to vote for.

    Thanks & have a gd day.

  37. #37 by lee wee tak_ on Tuesday, 2 December 2008 - 9:00 am

    Dear King Cobra,

    please don’t talk about education as it does not co-relate directly with the conscience of an individual. I can see so many highly educated people ruining the lives of masses. Cue the financial wizards in wall streets as well as submarine purchase agents.

    By the way, I don’t have a university degree.

    Don’t mean to ask you to seeking voting trend, just airing out a point of discussion

    You have a good day and life, Sir.

  38. #38 by king cobra on Tuesday, 2 December 2008 - 6:19 pm

    Dear Wee Tak ,
    based on wat u said , “education does not co-relate directly with conscience”

    yes i some how agree with this statement.

    however allow me to digress a little , back to “education” i’m not sure how the malaysian education system here works , but in some countries upon reaching secondary school a subject on “moral education” was introduced. even in some countries starting from primary school a subject was also introduced called “hao gong ming” (good citizen).

    of course i do understand that education can only do “this much” by introducing such subjects to incalculate good values , teaching people to be more considerate/conscientious , parents must also play an important part too. (i.e. upbringing/wellbeing in a family)


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