This is the blackest day for Parliament in 50 years.
In utter contempt of the sanctity of Parliament and the honour and dignity of Members of Parliament, the police arrested over 20 people in the parliamentary precincts.
Among those arrested were PAS leaders Mustapha Ali and Dr. Hatta Ramli, Parti Keadilan Rakyat secretary-general Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim and Information chief Tian Chua, Parti Sosialis Malaysia protem chairman Dr. Nasir Hashim as well as activists from the Coalition for Clean and Fair Elections (Bersih) including Suaram executive director Yap Swee Seng, Centre for Independent Journalism executive director V Gayathry, Pusat Komas programme director Mien Lor, Writers Alliance for Media Independence chairperson Wong Chin Huat, PAS Research Centre director Dr Dzulkifli Ahmad and Harakah advertising manager Mokhtar Rosaidi.
I was eye-witness to the police arrest of Mustapha, Yap Swee Seng, Wong Chin Huat and Gayathry within the precincts of Parliament. In fact, I was accompanying Yap, Wong and Gayathry out of Parliament when the police abused its powers to effect the arrest within parliamentary precincts during lunch-break.
I protested strongly against such a most shameful episode in the annals of Malaysian history in 50 years when Dewan Rakyat resumed sitting after lunch recess, proposing a privilege motion to direct the Police to release all arrested within parliamentary precincts – as the police arrests should have been made outside Parliament. However, there was no support whatsoever from any Barisan Nasional MP or Minister.
Nine DAP MPs and one PAS MP also met the Speaker, Tan Sri Ramli Ngah to lodge the strongest possible protest and he said he would seek clarification from the Inspector-of Police, Tan Sri Musa Hassan.
The blackest day for Parliament in 50 years after the Black Sunday of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi in his fifth year as fifth Prime Minister of Malaysia.
#1 by Libra2 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 3:34 pm
Thee is no law and order in the country. UMNO is the law. The Police is Law unto itself.
Parliament means nothing to them. The Constitution is a scrap of paper.
#2 by pulau_sibu on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 3:44 pm
Is this going to create a better name for the country? The ministers and especially the prime minister are shooting at their own feet. Don’t blame any one else.
Internationally, we are like Burma. No better than Burma! We will get a lot of free promotion by the international media. Go and put them in jail as well using the ISA.
#3 by Short-sleeve on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 3:48 pm
Badawi should just arrest everybody la. That will solve everything on the spot and show the entire world how efficient our police force is.
#4 by Taikor on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 3:50 pm
WTF! I would expect the police arrest Hairy Jambul right on his seat but not this one!
#5 by Be fair on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 3:51 pm
Minorities be concern, be very concern. Have a back door.
#6 by Ghost on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 3:51 pm
Freedom is a ladder. One end reaches hell, the other end touches heaven.
#7 by a-malaysian on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:05 pm
People in the field of world affairs, we need your help. We must start a campaign to seek help from the international bodies. Our country problem may look small to them and the stupid gomen terming it as internal affair.
We must tell the international bodies that it may be a small problem, but it can grow into a big problem. They must assist us to protest against the gomen before we turn into another Burma or worst Afganistan. Initially these countries also start with small problems of their own, but the international bodies could not care less and now they want to take action but its too late.
So the international bodies must start their protest or take appropriate action now before it turns worst and they could not do anything but just watch our country turn into another Burma.
We must seek international pressure to wake up this sleeping gomen. In the mean time we must also do our part by personally telling our relatives and friends what is happening to our country. Spread the words as I can see that any plan peaceful rallies will be harshly crush by the sleeping gomen. Stop reading the MSM, avoid the tv news for they are the propaganda machines for the sleeping gomen. If you are reading this, then you have access to the internet, get the real news from it.
50 years is ENOUGH
Vote For A Change
Vote For Any Opposition
Give Them A Chance To Change For A Better Malaysia
Remember bn Is A Useless Grouping Of Self Serving, Corrupt, Dictator, Power Crazy, Racist, Kris waving, etc, etc type of parties.
#8 by justice_fighter on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:07 pm
The hypocrite Pak Lah is also under attack from Tony Pua:
http://tonypua.blogspot.com/
#9 by smeagroo on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:09 pm
yahoo! another massive jam in the city.
Thank you lah sleepy head!
#10 by smeagroo on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:13 pm
Tony Pua surely gv sleepy head the stick in the butt!
And perhaps someone (maybe a young dreamer) waiting to take over from this sleeper. Who knows, all these problems are concocted and then comes a white knight. A SIL perhaps.
#11 by pengembaraglobalisasi on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:14 pm
I had travelled around , yeah its getting blacker…….the sun also refused to shine , it was cloudy for more than a week….it is banjir,banjir and banjir….Haprak,haprak everywhere.
#12 by budak on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:18 pm
if police so efficient, please catch Pak Lah…
he’s sleeping all the time, wasting Rakyat bloody money…
why no police report on him “sleeping” on my blood and sweat $$$… what so difficult to catch him…???
#13 by cheng on soo on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:18 pm
Jika se seorang di cabar, dia boleh cipta rekod, Pak pun boleh juga walaupun kadang kadang Pak mengantuk. Ei? berapa rekod dah Pak ciptakan lah!
#14 by pulau_sibu on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:18 pm
How can we be improving? When a housemaid became the wife of the prime minsiter, she can be appointed chancellor, and the different titles. It is simply a country full of jokes. Forget about the ranking in general.
KUALA LUMPUR: Datin Seri Jeanne Abdullah was declared the chancellor of Open University Malaysia (OUM) yesterday.
#15 by borrring on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:21 pm
they might as well haul everybody up to jail
#16 by Godfather on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:24 pm
Nurin’s killers still at large. The gang of rapists still at large. However, it is far easier to catch people hanging around Parliament, isn’t it ? I think all Opposition candidates for the next GE should march together once their candidacies are announced. Let the BN crooks put the Opposition candidates in jail, don’t bother with bail, and let the crooks win all the seats. Let the silent majority figure out if it is worth it to remain silent in the face of this Hitlerian administration.
#17 by Jong on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:27 pm
This “Half-past-6 government” is desperate, very desperate! Where is Dr Mahathir, why is he keeping so quiet?
#18 by digard on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:33 pm
pulau_sibu, right.
And it demonstrates the arrogance of power. That is the only reason why they do it. To show to the world, okay, to the Malays, who is in charge. And OUM has to gladly accept it.
Possibly the not-yet-so-old man still harbours a complex w.r.t. the now-old man, who had his wife made chancellor of MMU.
#19 by NOT DUMB MALAYSIAN on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:36 pm
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
We are plunging into total fascism. We must be at par with myanmar or even be lower. Robert Mugabe and Simbabwe is as a saint compared to MALAYSAI.
EVEN AS CUBA NOW SIGN THE UN HUMAN RIGHTS CHARTER.
We are pluanging into TOTAL OPPRESHENSION
WHY DON’T THEY JUST DECLARE A SECODN OPERATION LALLANG N USE THE ISA TO ARREST 1000 PDRSONS AT RANDOM. CHURCH GOERS and people3 using the LRT are easy targets.d
or jusrt declare MARTIAL LAW or a STATE OF EMERGENCY
#20 by Saint on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:37 pm
I do not understand you Kit. When in flames you still prefer to play the fiddle.
#21 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:44 pm
What do you expect? Lim Kit Siang jump into the fire?
#22 by shaolin on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:50 pm
Beware of Another May 13 in the making…!! AAB asks
other races to stay away… why??? Only God knows
and of course ALLAH knows too…!!
#23 by cheng on soo on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:55 pm
Advise tour operating co. don’t bring any foreign toursist to parliament area /outside istana /dataran merdeka etc lah, dangerous, your tourist may be arrested (by mistake or whatever). Don’t let such thing happened in Visit Malaysia Year !
#24 by Libra2 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 4:56 pm
Saint,
Do you know what you are saying? Or rather do you understand what is happening in this country?
#25 by budak on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 5:00 pm
S. Arutchelvan (Sec-Gen of PSM)
A. Sivarajan
Dr Nasir Hashim (Chair, PSM)
Tian Chua (Information Bureau chief, PKR)
Dr. Lo’ Lo’ Ghazali
Dr. Hatta Ramli (Treasurer, PAS)
Abdul Razak Ismail
Ang Hiok Gai
Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim (Sec-Gen of PKR)
Ustazah Nuridah Mohd Salleh
Azira Ariffin
Hashim Awang
Abdul Muhaimin Roslan (13-year-old)
Mohd Sabri Shafie
Mohabadilah Muda
Ustaz Nasruddin Tantawi
Dr Dzulkifli Ahmad (PAS Research centre head)
Yap Swee Seng (Suaram Exec Director)
Wong Chin Huat (WAMI)
Mokhtar Rozaidi
Mien Lor (KOMAS)
V. Gayathry (CIJ)
WTF… 13 yrs old also kena tangkap… tangkap basah or tangkap rambang… STUPID PDRM… :-(
#26 by ktteokt on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 5:10 pm
LAW & ORDER IS NOW DEAD IN MALAYSIA!!!!
#27 by budak on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 5:19 pm
time for all Malaysian to march to Istana Negara and Negeri to beg Agong and sultan to annul Abdullah cabinet and BN MP… dont tell me, our beloved King also “kecut”… :-)
#28 by 9to5 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 5:20 pm
In the first place, how can a judge issue a court order forbidding people from going to parliament to hand over their grouses to the members of parliament especially when it also covers unspecified persons?
When does Parliament where its members are themselves elected by the people, becomes a forbidden place to the people who want their grouses heard?
It really shows the calibre and standard of the judges that the country now produces. This judgement really amounts to absurdity and stupidity. Anyone knows who’s the judge and his qualification?
#29 by fm2 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 5:38 pm
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#30 by Godfather on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 5:51 pm
Jong said:
“This “Half-past-6 government†is desperate, very desperate! Where is Dr Mahathir, why is he keeping so quiet?”
What do you expect Mahathir to say ? That his children’s businesses in Malaysia will suffer if he opens his mouth ? That he himself corrupted the judiciary in 1988 to the point of no return ? That he ensured that the police, the ACA and the AG’s chambers are staffed with people who only listen to UMNO ?
Badawi is not that smart. He inherited a corrupt system and realised that it works for him, for his relatives and his cronies, and that it does not require brains to work in a corrupt system.
Every day I pray that Mahathir will remain alive for a lot longer so that he can see the consequences of what he has done for Bolehland.
#31 by Danniel on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 5:55 pm
The Police Force and Judiciary have been very busy lately – busy with a motive – or, shall we call them, busy body ?
#32 by politicalopinions on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 5:58 pm
UMNO controls everything. If they lose next GE, they’ll use force to get them back. Look at 1969. Opposition won and they start a racial riot…bla bla bla. Gotta be careful.
AAB = Musharraf?
Maybe soon…
#33 by Jong on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 5:58 pm
Godfather,
Agree 100%! Great minds think alike eh.
#34 by pky103 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 6:10 pm
I have HAD ENOUGH with this authoritative government who claims to be democratic and whatnot!
#35 by patriotic1994 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 6:12 pm
Our government does not want fair and clean election. Got it? Why it take so long for us to realize they don’t want Fair and Clean Election? Otherwise, why arrest the Bersih people who demand for Fair and Clean Election?
Fair and Clean Election bring race riot to our country? May be that’s what our government believe in. The May 13 incident is an example of Fair and Clean Election, which cause Opposition to win. Then the losers cannot tahan losing “maruah”. They started the killing, burning of houses. All are written in the May 13 book.
Our government is trying hard to prevent this from happening again because Malaysia is a harmony place with multi-racial loving each other. That’s what they believe in. Nothing wrong with that. So don’t stop them to believe it. In fact, ALL of us believe in it too.
So far no effort has made to make government feel relax. They felt threaten. Panic people cannot think. Worst of all, our leader (PM) could not do anything correct. He is inexperienced. He didn’t walk the talk. He claims to listen to people, but only his people. They gave him wrong information, and further causing damage to the situation.
Anymore protest will lead to bigger problem. Soon another May 13 may be happening again. This time, may be Malays vs Indians.
We all know Indians believe re-incarnation. Life in this world is meaningless to them. If they are told to do something stupid, just for once, they would do so. What to lose when they already in disadvantage position, poor and invisible to the society? Please don’t let this happen to them.
I hope our government has the wisdom to see this problem and prevent the bloody riot from happening. Sit down calmly, talk to the leaders, come out a solution that benefit all Malaysians. It must be win-win situation; nobody is supposed to be losing.
#36 by sheriff singh on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 6:23 pm
And in return for the Police making all the arrests, will the government give the Police a watered-down IPCMC in return?
TDM had already trained the PDRM to “perform” and they all have the necessary experience and are only too happy to carry out their tasks. They need to let off some steam.
At the rate the arrests and charging are going on, is it not clear that Ops Lallang II is going on? And if they all end up being detained under ISA, then the next General Elections will be a walk-over. Not discounting what laws Parliament might enact during this time.
Thats Myanmalaysia for you.
A possible next step could be Kit Siang too can be detained for participating in an illegal assembly last month. Anwar has already been stopped at the airport.
Can a crackdown on bloggers and commentators be not far off? The internet need to be neutralised too so that the BN will have a easy passage at the elections.
Ah! What a wonderful December 2007.
Remember Simon and Garfunkel’s version of “Silent Night, Holy Night”?
#37 by hutchrun on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 6:32 pm
Why is it that {patriotic1994 Says Today at 18: 12.21} is allowed when mine get removed, though they are less `inflamatory`?
In any case, today`s arrests of top PAS members put to rubbish this patriotic`s comments about malays vs reincarnating indians.
#38 by fm2 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 6:37 pm
Yes, i agree with u all.
even they Win in this coming GE, they’ll now admit and make things worse, be careful on tht day
but if this really happen, we sit down quiet quiet n let them win? no way right?
Wht a bodoh govmen… really lead the country like shit
just compare with singapore, how far we left behind?
if all this bodoh umn-o ppl want to lead this country, pls go find their own ‘bodohland’ for themselves.
#39 by k1980 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 6:39 pm
It’s not “Silent Night, Holy Night  The Night of the Long Knives has begun!
#40 by Godfather on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 6:41 pm
I was against any boycott of the elections, but I am now more inclined towards the view that the opposition should simply give them a walkover. Better still, the Opposition should go for another rally and let them fill the prisons with opposition members. Heck, we taxpayers pay for the meals in prisons too.
#41 by sheriff singh on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 6:44 pm
”
M’sia detains Anwar, arrests 12 at parliament protest
The former deputy prime minister had returned to the Malaysian capital from Istanbul via Singapore when he was stopped by the authorities. — PHOTO: AFP
KUALA LUMPUR – MALAYSIAN authorities on Tuesday detained opposition figure Anwar Ibrahim at the capital’s airport and arrested at least 12 protesters who defied a ban on handing a petition to parliament.
The incidents were the latest moves in a government crackdown on its critics who have organised a series of street demonstrations that have drawn tens of thousands and sent shockwaves through the nation.
Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said on Monday he was willing to sacrifice public freedom to maintain national security, justifying the arrests of dozens of people on charges including attempted murder and sedition.
Mr Anwar, the former deputy premier who became a vocal government critic after being sacked and jailed in 1998, said he was held for an hour at Kuala Lumpur’s international airport (KLIA) after returning from a trip to Turkey.
‘I was detained by immigration officials at KLIA this morning and wish to state that the authorities have placed my name on a ‘suspect blacklist’,’ he said.
‘I think it is a sustained effort to harass opposition leaders,’ he added, describing the crackdown as a government attempt ‘to deflect from the core issues of endemic corruption, high crime rates and a poor economy.’
An immigration spokesman said he had no knowledge of Mr Anwar’s detention at the airport, but that names for the blacklist are usually provided by police.
Keadilan officials said however that the move was linked to his involvement in the Bersih electoral reform movement which staged a mass rally last November as well as Tuesday’s petition protest.
More than 400 police surrounded the parliament to block the electoral reform campaigners who were forced to march there on foot after all roads leading to the building were closed off, causing traffic chaos in Kuala Lumpur.
Police said 12 people had been arrested, including several members of Mr Anwar’s Keadilan party and one from the hardline Islamic party PAS, while Keadilan said 21 had been detained, including a 13-year-old boy.
Trees lining the streets were posted with copies of a court order obtained by police that banned the campaigners from parliament.
‘The authorities should not have done this. They should have been given the right to hand over a memorandum. After all, that?s all they just wanted to do,’ Keadilan president Wan Azizah Wan Ismail, who is Mr Anwar’s wife, told AFP.
The petition against a proposed constitutional amendment was eventually given to opposition members of parliament to be passed to the speaker.
It urged lawmakers to reject the proposal that would extend the retirement age for Election Commission officers, likely allowing current chairman Abdul Rashid Abdul Rahman to stay in the role during polls expected next year.
‘Abdul Rashid, whose service is continuously marred with recurring electoral frauds and manipulations, is not fit for the job and must go immediately,’ the petition said.
Cabinet minister Nazri Aziz, who is in charge of justice issues, defended the police action.
‘They want to come and demonstrate today’s amendment to the constitution. So they want to come in big numbers. We will not allow that,’ he told reporters at parliament.
‘We have taken action against them and we are using the court system to prosecute these people,’ Mr Nazri said.
Last month, nearly 30,000 demonstrators calling for free and fair elections massed in the capital in a protest led by an alliance of opposition parties and civil society groups.
In a separate rally, at least 8,000 ethnic Indians protested alleged discrimination by Muslim Malays who dominate the population.
Police dispersed the crowds with tear gas and water cannons and arrested scores of demonstrators. — AFP
”
When 400 Policemen surrounds Parliament preventing the public from entry, then something is wrong. Is this a “Westminster-style” Parliament? I don’t recall the British police ever surrounding the Houses of Parliament for a similar activity.
#42 by a-malaysian on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 6:50 pm
The Cruelty Of The Police Force
Looks like he had fainted.
50 years is ENOUGH
Vote For A Change
Vote For Any Opposition
Give Them A Chance To Change For A Better Malaysia
Remember bn Is A Useless Grouping Of Self Serving, Corrupt, Dictator, Power Crazy, Racist, Kris waving, etc, etc type of parties.
#43 by k1980 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 7:04 pm
Why is the former PM quiet as a mouse now? Afraid of being dragged off and black-eyed by the IGP?
#44 by jus legitimum on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 7:06 pm
Instead of controlling the rising crime rate and arresting criminals,the police take the easy way out by arresting harmless and peaceful demonstrators.Betul,betul malu.Cemerlang,gemilang,gelumang,temberang,duit hilang dan ada sampah yang lain lagike?
#45 by k1980 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 7:12 pm
Now that Hindraf is found to be linked to the LTTE, PAS will be found to be associated with AlQaeda, the PKR will be linked to Yasser Arafat’s Black September, and the DAP to Japan’s Aum Shinrikyo. All these opposition parties will be banned and prevented from contesting in the GE
#46 by Furiousity on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 7:13 pm
Reply to Jong
Well Mahathir is being smart. He knows that if he has anything to say, the PM might direct the police to make an arrest.
Since the Gov is on arresting spree, we know that they are doing somethin wrong behind the scene. Perhaps local media is no longer reliable to view the actual fact of this on going S***
#47 by k1980 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 7:24 pm
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/IL12Ae01.html
Abdullah, whose reform agenda to stamp out corruption and abuse of power has floundered, now faces a ground swell of popular disenchantment which has spilled onto the streets.
The year-end season of discontent could force him to delay plans for calling an early snap general election, which is due at the latest by early 2009. Instead, prominent opposition politicians believe the embattled premier is on the brink of ordering a major crackdown against dissent.
#48 by mata_kucing on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 7:28 pm
The police has now appointed itself Umno’s enforcer. Now we know why it was important for the IGP service to be extended. The same goes for the EC chief. The PM is now in the leaque of Mugabe and Kim Jong Ill. Let’s pray that he will not turn into another Hitler.
#49 by smeagroo on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 8:20 pm
I still believe that the red report card for our PM is the making of “someone” close to him. He will come out in the open and call for reform when the time is right to right the wrongs and he will emerge as the champion for Msia. Even if it means to betray the one close to him. That’s what power will force one to do.
#50 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 8:42 pm
Damn! DAmn! damn!
How can the police violate the sanctity of Parliament with impunity? YB LKS and all opposition MPs must move a motion of immediate imporetance for the arrest of all police personnel who violated the highest and most sacrosanct institution of the country.
Such a brute dispaly of immoral force and unmitigated abuse of constitutional propriety cannot and must not be tolerated!
#51 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 8:42 pm
What we are seeing is Abdullah Badawi giving the first of his lessons to those bent on causing public unrest the meaning of his “Saya pantang di cabar!”
#52 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 8:45 pm
Nice affable and polite may be his standard demeanour but when challenged the tiger in the man emerges to devour anybody who stands in his way!
#53 by Samuel Goh Kim Eng on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 8:46 pm
What happens when any law
Is used as a sharp saw
To cut off truth raw
Straight from maw
(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Tue. 11th Dec. 2007.
#54 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 8:49 pm
k1980 Says:
Today at 19: 04.03 (1 hour ago)
“Why is the former PM quiet as a mouse now? Afraid of being dragged off and black-eyed by the IGP?”
I suspect Tun M is gleefully watching all those bumbling mis-steps by Pak Lah. I won’t be surprised at all some of those moves were instigated by Tun M, including those agitation and uncalled for moves by IGP and AG. The hotter it gets, the faster Pak LAh will have to vacate his seat.
Then, Najib, Tun M’s boy-in-waiting will come along to catch the crown.
Too many sinister things are happening in this land. “Foul is fair, and fair is foul”. Nothing is what it seems. So much cloak-and- dagger, conspiracy and venom in the BN’s cauldron. The common people, the Rakyat, has to suffer the injustice of these political brutes and political whores.
#55 by Saint on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 9:02 pm
Please ask your self how may times Saudara Kit has raised issues in parliament and how many has he won. One needs to become practical. Why keep banging your head against an iron wall when every body knows that even combined (DAP, PAS & KeADILAN) cannot do anything. They should work towards a strategy together to win the next elections. This should be the priority. How come none of the three are taking any initiative for this? At lease Saudara Kit can make a start. No need to agree on any thing but at least show solidarity that the opposition parties are together.
I do not think this is too much to as from the Opposition Leader of the Malaysian Parliament. He must start the ball rolling and work towards an amicable solution. This sets the class of an opposition leader.
That is why I think he is playing the fiddle (doing actions that will bring no hope) to the Malaysian public, while the public are on fire. Please let me know what worst scenario has the whole of Malaysia faced in terms of public unrest, compared to what is happening now?
I have great respect for his sacrifice but it looks everything is going to waste, because there is no solidarity among the opposition. DAP alone cannot do it and let us not kid ourselves. We all know it and I am sure Saudara Kit also knows it. No offence meant only frustrations.
#56 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 9:08 pm
Much of the blame perhaps should go to the HINDRAF leaders (as opposed to their followers) for the tough and unprecedented measures now being taken.
We can now kiss goodbye to Malay votes!
=======================================
HINDRAF leaders did refer to allegations of ethnic cleansing albeit a la Malaysia, genocides and atrocities committed on Tamil Indians – demolition of Hindu temples which is a small part of their grievance, being the result of a pattern of practice by overzealous and misguided local government officials condoned by the federal government?
Is that not the picture HINDRAF wants the world to believe?
HINDRAF leaders claim theirs is not a political organization or an association with a political agenda. Is that why the demonstration was timed to coincide with the run up to the general elections?
HINDRAF leaders claim their organization does not condone violence. Why then refer to violence in an interview with the foreign media and repeated references to LTTE?
Why seek the help of Indian nationals and politicians and Indian leaders of the New Delhi government which has a track record of having supported LTTE – before the U.S. classified it as a terrorist organization?
Then filing for damages from a foreign government for $2 million for each descendant of Indians brought to Malaysia to work in the plantations and railways including the descendants of those who came voluntarily ( asking for every Indian in Malaysia to be made a multi millionaire) and for the U.K. government to provide each Indian with a U.K. passport and U.K. citizenship so they could leave the country to come to the U.K.
I really do not think British MPs are too pleased with the thought there would be some 2.0 million Indians at their doorsteps screaming for jobs and decent housing in their already strained economy. They know better from years of experience with their own ethnic Indian and Pakistani minorities.
#57 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 9:10 pm
“Nice affable and polite may be his standard demeanour but when challenged the tiger in the man emerges to devour anybody who stands in his way!”
More like emerges out of desperation, he devoured anything that stands on two feet, including children.
#58 by ALtPJK on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 9:11 pm
What a despicable act!
This is not an act of showing it has ‘Rocky Mountain oysters’, as the UMNO-led AAB administration would have liked it to be, but an act which is abhorrent from the principles of rule of law and a cowardly act of desperation; an act which can only be carried out by cowards hiding behind the unholy alliance of an ill-gotten majority in Parliament, a usurped Judiciary and a vermin infested Police. Are the cowards worried that the BERSIH memo to be delivered to Parliament today will ruin their planned constitutional amendment to delay EC head’s retirement hence preventing the unholy alliance to rope in the corrupt EC?
Like I’ve said before, as we witness the last vestiges of whatever liberties initially guaranteed in the 1957 Constitution coming to an undeserved and premature best before date, there is no doubt that in the eyes of the world this act alone will hasten this administration’s slide towards a ‘pariah’ status.
P/S Edchin, I hope you don’t mind my borrowing your euphemism.
#59 by lakshy on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 9:18 pm
The Malaysian Police Farce are just the dogs of umno.
Remember once a former IGP lost his cool when a former DPM referred to him as a anjing suruhan and gave the former DPM a black eye? Makes a lot of sense now!
Thats who they are, the Malaysian Police Farce!
#60 by tuanlokong on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 9:22 pm
Maybe now changed to Balai Raya…
#61 by lakshy on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 9:25 pm
This is the pm who says he has ears to listen! Shows how well he listens.
Look at all the rakyat who got fooled by this guys sweet words and gave him a resounding thumping 92% majority! Whose fault lah? you guys! We guys!
Has the opposition ever opposed any bill of importance or that is good for the rakyat? When we voted against US invasion of Iraq, didn’t the opposition also support the motion?
Thats why we need a stronger opposition voice in state and parliament. Our mistake. Our collective fault.
This we must rectify. And the change must begin with us!
#62 by taikohtai on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 9:35 pm
Since the BN PM and cronies like to travel overseas all the time at the expense of the rakyat, I suggest we start galvanizing some form of protest whenever they land in some foreign destinations, esp in Western democracies.
Eg if Pak Lah shows his face again in Perth for some unofficial opening ceremonies, lets greet him with banners depicting slogans such as “NO MORE ISA IN MALAYSIA!”. Let’s show our support to those back home who are threatened with arrest if they protest in the streets etc. Lets shame the BN scoundrels abroad when they show their faces. Lets give them free publicity about their dastardly deeds back in Malaysia. Lets hound them and highlight their poor human rights records in Malaysia. Lets target them all and show them how real democracies work!
I am sure it will not be that hard to start our protests in countries such as UK, Australia and USA, being their favourite destinations.
DOWN with the corrupt BN rascals!!
#63 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 9:52 pm
/// What happens when any law
Is used as a sharp saw
To cut off truth raw
Straight from maw
(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng ///
What happens when law enforcers the laws they broke
The Speaker of Parliament, nary a word of protest he spoke
Opposition leaders and NGO officials – all innocent blokes
More than 20 of them kena tangkap with one stroke
#64 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 9:56 pm
“That is why I think he (Kit) is playing the fiddle (doing actions that will bring no hope) to the Malaysian public, while the public are on fire. ” Saint
It is no coinicidence at all that Kit has been spared when other less well known opposition leaders and political activists have been roped in.
Apparently it is to lend credibility to their effort to rid the community albeit temporarily, of elements out to cause public unrest. The message is if they could proceed against these individuals with such haste they could proceed against leaders like Kit and Anwar.
#65 by Ghost on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:00 pm
Nobody has the power to take two steps together, we can take only one step at a time. Just one step by one step, a man can go ten thousand miles.
Lets ponder, what’s our next step after experincing recent occurences, should we unite all opposition parties under one roof?
My 2 cents woth of opinion, we should and we need to accomplish this fast, without further delay a revolution is unavoidable.
#66 by motai on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:00 pm
Civil disobedience is the assertion of a right which law should give
but which it denies.
Civil disobedience presupposes willing obedience of our self-imposed
rules, and without it civil disobedience would be cruel joke.
Civil disobedience becomes a sacred duty when the State becomes
lawless or, which is the same thing, corrupt.
Civil disobedience means capacity for unlimited suffering without
the intoxicating excitement of killing.
Disobedience to be civil has to be open and nonviolent.
Disobedience to be civil implies discipline, thought, care,
attention.
Disobedience that is wholly civil should never provoke retaliation.
Non-cooperation and civil disobedience are different but [are]
branches of the same tree call Satyagraha (truth-force).
#67 by smeagroo on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:01 pm
Bodowi is real stewpid. WHy stop at 66yrs old? Extend it till kingdom come la then they can continue to plunder the nation.
#68 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:10 pm
“I am sure it will not be that hard to start our protests in countries such as UK, Australia and USA, being their favourite destinations.” taikotai
One snag though!
Malaysians abroad are generally apathetic. Those who are not (apathetic) and who are Malays, are few in numbers – except for students. To call these students to stage demonstrations at the Embassies abroad is like asking them to slap the hand that feeds them.
Those who could be persuaded are illegals eking out a living – and they have been living below the radar especially in a post 9/11 world, and are not about to reveal themselves and attract attention so that the local police or immigrantion could track them!
Furthermore, Malaysia is not Myanmar.
#69 by ALtPJK on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:13 pm
Oh..oh…looks like my post of 58 minutes ago is gone. No profanities…no expletives, just apt descriptions reflecting the harsh reality we are in.
Well there’s always a next time!
#70 by Jong on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:14 pm
Self-censorship ? Or is this blog closely watched, that most of our comments seemed to have disappeared in cyberspace.
#71 by cancan on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:26 pm
I will say it again.
Please compile all the wrongdoings of the Umnoputras into a VCD and distribute to the people and showcase it to the world.
You can choose the following title:
1) Apartheid at its best.
2) Mother of all corruptions.
3) Justice my foot!
4) Malaysia,truly sickening.
5) Political shits of Malaysia.
The Umnoputras do not give a damn about the country anymore.
They are destroying the country.
Lets fight them as true Malaysians,by Malaysians.
#72 by busyyy on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:27 pm
my friend called me , there’s a group of people gathering around the front door of old pudu jail to give support to the detainees.
#73 by lakshy on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:31 pm
I call on all Policemen who claim to be citizens of malaysia, to quit if they have a conscience and want to see a better malaysia for their children
#74 by Rocky on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:49 pm
sad day. The arrest at parliament puts malaysia in the same league as Myanmar. Why can’t police show same vigour in hunting down or preventing crime.
sad day!!!
#75 by justice6 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:50 pm
waste of time n taxpayer money.. real crime don’t want to settle.. but suddenly can have hundreds of policemen out.. can we put the whole cabinet on trial ??? for treason to our Nation…
#76 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 10:52 pm
“Oh..oh…looks like my post of 58 minutes ago is gone. No profanities…no expletives, just apt descriptions reflecting the harsh reality we are in. Well there’s always a next time! ” ALtPJK
Either that or it bounced off into orbit only to land later! It seems the program Kit is using is not functioning the way it should.
#77 by k1980 on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 11:27 pm
Confusedcius says: He who likes to arrest people will end up arrested himself
http://kickdefella.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/dollah-guilty-copy.jpg
#78 by alphoti on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 11:30 pm
Malaysia need another Independence. We got indepedent from Britain only to be colonised by UMNO.
Perhaps UMNO should change Malaysia to UMNOsia.
#79 by Furiousity on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 11:39 pm
i think the missing post should be technical error because i had the same problem but the next day it was ther again. I could be wrong but check it out tmrw
#80 by PORVEERAAN on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 11:42 pm
“That until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned: That until there are no longer first-class and second class citizens of any nation; That until the color of a man’s skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes; That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race; That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained.”
#81 by PORVEERAAN on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 11:44 pm
“Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted, the indifference of those who should have known better, the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most, that has made it possible for evil to triumph.”
#82 by chai on Tuesday, 11 December 2007 - 11:46 pm
malaysia habis liao if BN continuing to take power in next election!!!!! so people malysian vote for any opposition party to ajar BN…..must do it…
#83 by R for Retard on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:06 am
Reality sinks in,BN is to powerfull for the opposition to topple,Unless it topples from the inside,till they realize they have been mislead,that’ll be the day country is trully free of the AAB cancer.
#84 by DiaperHead on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:08 am
I am for efficiency!
Pictures of police (uniformed and in plainclothes) talking what feels like an hour to arrest people who are politely being handcuffed almost at their convenience and even then after they have finished their phone calls to friends and family, are being beamed over the internet. Some were interviewed and allowed to make their speeches before being put in police cars – and then later released after being charged, some re-arrested and charged again!
All that within a short distance of Parliament House – the symbol of democracy. What are they thinking??
If I were the PM I would fire the IGP.
It should take only three policemen to effect an arrest. Instead it is taking a mob of some twenty to effect one arrest!
A traffic policeman takes a tiny fraction of that time to collect RM50 for a trumped up offense.
#85 by DiaperHead on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:11 am
Some of the policemen look like they don’t have enough to eat!
#86 by dawsheng on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:25 am
“That is why I think he is playing the fiddle (doing actions that will bring no hope) to the Malaysian public, while the public are on fire. Please let me know what worst scenario has the whole of Malaysia faced in terms of public unrest, compared to what is happening now?”
Saint, I think you will fair better as the leader of the opposition. Strange, where were we when Saudara Kit were detained under ISA?
#87 by ihavesomethingtosay on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:28 am
“The Mufti of Sabah issued a fatwah (religious decree) that declared all Buddhist statues haram (forbidden). With that fatwah the Thean Hou Foundation was forbidden from erecting the Goddess of the Sea statue and was ordered to halt all work although they had already brought in the statue and work had progressed halfway”
http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/index.php?itemid=1042
#88 by DarkHorse on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:30 am
Depar Head has a point!
In the U.S. a state trooper even those doing traffic looks like he has been pumping iron the last ten years! You don’t want to look at him, let alone ask him for an address!
Not in the U.K. though. The London bobbies look like they are waiting for their break to go off to the pubs.
The police patrolling the streets of any city in the United States look intimidating in their uniform armed or unarmed. Many have seen military service.
The Malaysian police be they serving in the FRU or in plainclothes look like they don’t know where they are, what they are doing and some even look like their wives have not been feeding them!
It is one bad joke!
#89 by dawsheng on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:30 am
Btw, don’t expect any fair general election. When Abdullah finally call for general election, there isn’t any opposition leaders left to contest the seats. Abdullah will get 100% mandates.
#90 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:38 am
We lost the Malay votes needed. The HINDRAF demonstration did it.
#91 by Godfather on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:42 am
I have now witnessed the full evolution of Abdullah Ahmad Badawi. I saw him as Forrest Gump in 2003 – a bumbling village idiot who said all the right things and appeared to be heading in the right direction. Then I saw his evolution into Mr Bean – a bumbling village idiot who had a mean streak about him and who tried all sorts of shortcuts.
Now I have seen him evolve into a modern-day Hitler – by appointing his trusted lieutenants in key positions for propaganda warfare. He is also amassing his SS troops against all dissidents.
The future ? Some of the criminals will die in bunkers, some will escape to Perth and London, many will face trials for crimes against humanity. Bolehland will lay in ruins for many years.
#92 by Godfather on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:45 am
Hindraf may have swung some Malay votes towards UMNO, but yesterday’s arrests of so many high powered politicians will swing more sympathy votes towards the Opposition, including PAS.
#93 by penangboy on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:46 am
A Vote for DAP is a vote against UMNO! Time to break out of your comfort zone as your cheese is about to be movedQ!
#94 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:52 am
“If the choice is between public safety and public freedom, I do not hesitate to say here that public safety will always win,†Abdullah Badawi said in Kuala Lumpur on Monday.â€
Why does Abdullah prefer the use of the term “public safety” instead of the use of the language of the ISA which is “threat to internal security”.
Could it be the de facto Chief Operating Officer behind the mass arrests? Could he be setting up a scenario for a possible political coup?
#95 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 1:00 am
“Then I saw his evolution into Mr Bean – a bumbling village idiot who had a mean streak about him and who tried all sorts of shortcuts.” GODFATHER
If that’s the case then Abdullah Badawi should have passed his Stats paper! He should have noticed that the man at the beach was blind before he took all that trouble to put on his swimming trunk without taking off his pants! He should have known better than to stick his head into a turkey’s backside!
#96 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 1:09 am
“Hindraf may have swung some Malay votes towards UMNO, but yesterday’s arrests of so many high powered politicians will swing more sympathy votes towards the Opposition, including PAS.” GODFATHER
Not if they put political stability above all else. Not if they believe that ‘change’ is best worked from within.
Remember in 1969 the situation was markedly different. Then they saw themselves as being on the outside looking in – as Malays in the towns were themselves victims of marginalization. Today their stakes are a lot bigger and they no longer are members of a marginalized community.
#97 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 1:10 am
Post-HINDRAF I predict a landslide victory with or without the electoral reforms, for BN.
#98 by Godfather on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 1:59 am
Marcos and his cronies stole the Philippines blind for 19 years. How long do you reckon Badawi and the den of thieves have to steal from Bolehland ? My guess is about 10 years, when there is nothing left to steal, and the thieves will turn on themselves.
I guess 10 years isn’t a long time for many of us who will live long enough to witness this scenario.
#99 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 2:04 am
“My guess is about 10 years, when there is nothing left to steal, and the thieves will turn on themselves. ” GODFATHER
Ten years is ten years too long!
When there is nothing left to steal, then it is time for them to spend what they stole.
#100 by Godfather on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 2:13 am
They would have spent OUR money acquiring properties and companies in Australia, UK, the US and possibly Indonesia. Many UMNOputras would be living up their lifestyles in Perth, Sydney, London, San Francisco. Using OUR money. Reminiscent of Marcos and his cronies, eh ?
#101 by Godfather on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 2:23 am
At that time, the people of Bolehland will be mired in poverty, the remaining politicians will be struggling to keep their heads above water, and there will be inquests into the hidden fortunes of [deleted]
#102 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 2:32 am
…and we can’t do a damn thing about it!!!
#103 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 2:35 am
Here’s more of what Abduallah Badawi had said:
On whether the position of prime minister had eroded his image as “Mr Clean” and “Mr Nice Guy”, Abdullah said: “I know, God knows, I’m clean and I’m still nice.”
However, he added being nice did not mean being weak. “As far as I am concerned, what is right is right. What is wrong is wrong… If I have to sign a detention order for ISA (Internal Security Act), I will do it without feeling guilty,” he said.
=========================================
Sure God knows! We don’t!
He’s wrong when he said “Right is right” when he failed to act that left is left.
#104 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 2:35 am
oops add
#105 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 2:36 am
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!
#106 by sj on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 3:42 am
Marcos and his cronies stole the Philippines blind for 19 years. How long do you reckon Badawi and the den of thieves have to steal from Bolehland ?
_____________________________________________________
You forgot to add another 22 years of blindness to Malaysia. Malaysia will be a country that has been duped for at least, 3 decades. Yes, we are heading towards the Marcos incident. History repeats itself.
#107 by Man_of_Honour on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 4:37 am
What have our King been doing? It’s really sad to say that the biggest terrorist party control our government.
They rob the rakyats’ hard earned money and still think that they are doing us a favour.
Our King, are you really comfortable with the current administration? Rakyat are suffering out here. Do you hear our plea?
There is no more justice in Malaysia, no more freedom, no more rights. And it’s no longer a safe place to stay.
#108 by lakshy on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 6:01 am
AAB’s actions now is a form of cleansing too!
#109 by lakshy on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 6:03 am
From Wiki
[E]thnic cleansing is a well-defined policy of a particular group of persons to systematically eliminate another group from a given territory on the basis of religious, ethnic or national origin. Such a policy involves violence and is very often connected with military operations. It is to be achieved by all possible means, from discrimination to extermination, and entails violations of human rights and international humanitarian law.”[3]
The official United Nations definition of ethnic cleansing is “rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group”[4]
sound familiar?
#110 by dawsheng on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 7:45 am
We cannot stereotype all Malays as UMNO’s supporters, MCA Chinese and MIC Indians too are UMNO’s supporters, at the same time, there are a fair share of Malays who understand the Hindraf issue and may not vote UMNO. Malays who has their eyes opened can also see how some of their own who lives in rumah setinggan, where their fate is worst than the Indians in the plantations. We will not lose Malay votes, but we have lost votes from radical Muslims for sure, that’s because they will never vote multi-racial political party like DAP or PKR. Have we really lost anything? judging by Abdullah’s action, I think we are winning, that’s for sure.
#111 by Bigjoe on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 8:22 am
The only good thing about this is that they arrested a good number of Malay opposition leaders. This makes more difference than anything else frankly. It will chip away at Badawi confidence to take harsher action.
The biggest question to me is what will Anwar do as a follow-up. As the defacto opposition leader what can he do to up the stake? His choice is not easy. He can easily up the stake by organizing the biggest rally ever and have himself arrested OR he wait it out and contest in a real GE. But the problem is the GE is likely before he is eligible. What then? Do he up the stake now or do he wait another 4/5 years?
Bersih need to organize another rally, a mega one, and have Anwar/Nik Aziz in front. The best strategy would be to do it during the campaign period of the coming GE, preferable at the start of the campaign period. An overly aggressive government action during that period would turn off even the Malay heartland and reduce vote for UMNO and for sure would galvanize Sabah voters. In fact, they should have a separate one in Sabah to co-incide with a KL rally.
The ease of which UMNO changed the Constitution to accomodate the career of one man scares the living daylight out of me. Denying BN their 2/3 majority is urgent and lets face the fact. BN is going to win comfortably in the next GE and chances of denying the 2/3 is small without a recession.
#112 by sotong on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 8:23 am
The previous PM did the same and lasted 22 years………this could work for the present PM.
#113 by Bigjoe on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 9:04 am
Jeffooi has some youtube posting that is interesting.
They arrested Mustafa Ali although he was inside Parliament. The policemen, clearly were not sure what they were doing but wanted to just follow order to arrest. It was shameful. They did not want to show court order, they did not allow Mustafa Ali, an elected MP to enter Parliament, they dragged away by force the old man as Hissamuddin just walked by (this is PM material to walk away from brute action against an elder? This is Melayu glocal?). At least they could have a public prosecutor follow the police on this one.
How can you stop MPs from going into Parliament? How many Parliamentary rules and not to mention procedural law was violated by these arrests?
Langar undang undang indeed.
#114 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 9:33 am
“…they dragged away by force the old man ..” Bigjoe
The didn’t have to do that. All they need do is inform the person he is under arrest and inform him why. They put their hands on him and cuff him. They didn’t have to talk to him, answer questions or show proof of anything. If he resists arrest then they are allowed to use reasonable force to effect the arrest.
Do they know what they are doing? Aren’t they trained at all in the law of effecting an arrest?
#115 by Toyol on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 9:36 am
It was a crazy day yesterday what with the massive traffic jams…all caused by our dear policemen. I could see they were not happy at all with the situation. I don’t blame them. All major roads into and out of the city was blocked…not sure why? Maybe there is a hidden agenda!
#116 by Jong on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 10:09 am
What do we expect a village idiot leading a bunch of gobloks, with Kera Jahat the de facto pm? So now the whole nation has gone nuts!!!
#117 by Jong on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 10:14 am
There’s no two ways, we must vote BN/UMNO out! Send the tremors. Taiwan did it, so did Australia.
Please let’s stop further rot and save this country of ours.
#118 by raverus on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 12:58 pm
Police state!!
#119 by g2geetoo on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 1:19 pm
dont tell me, our beloved King also “kecutâ€â€¦ says budak.
The Rakyat is in a platter to be served on the table already! Birds of a feather flock together. It’s a Umno power struggle and both Team A and Team B are scheming their many plots to out smart each other.
Sigh…….Badawi has disappointed those who offered him a hand!
#120 by Jong on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 1:19 pm
undergrad2, you said:
“The didn’t have to do that. All they need do is inform the person he is under arrest and inform him why. They put their hands on him and cuff him. They didn’t have to talk to him, answer questions or show proof of anything. If he resists arrest then they are allowed to use reasonable force to effect the arrest.”
– mind you that was within the confines of Parliament house, my friend!
#121 by budak on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 1:32 pm
Parlimen..???
Malaysia got Parliament House..???
Malaysia democratic country…???
this is the 1st impression from my friends from oversea…
#122 by lakshy on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 3:12 pm
kid, if you are really studying, its best you concentrate on your studies so you dont have to repeat a third time.
#123 by hutchrun on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 3:44 pm
RPK writes:
When Chong Kah Kiat files his suit against the government in the Kota Kinabalu High Court because of the fatwah by the Sabah Mufti that Buddhist statues are haram and can’t be allowed, that would make the Buddhists angry. When the attempted murder trial of the HINDRAF supporters starts, that would make the Hindus angry. And when they act on the police report against Abdullah for his crime of sabotaging Mahathir in the Kubang Pasu division election, many in the top echelons of Umno will come forward to testify to ensure that the noose around Abdullah’s neck will become tighter.
http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/index.php?itemid=1042
#124 by hutchrun on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 3:48 pm
UMNO’S RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE
UMNO comes out with fatwahs declaring Buddhist statues haram and forbids its erection while PAS allows the largest Buddhist statue in the country.
UMNO demolishes Hindu temples while PAS summons Hindus for a meeting and offers them permission to build one though they never asked for it thinking that surely PAS would say no if Umno says no.
And Abdullah Badawi’s Islam Hadhari is NOT as liberal as what UMNO says it is.
And this will make the Chinese sit up and take note… whether the Umno government and Abdullah’s Islam Hadhari is tolerant to Buddhists and Hindus.
And luckily the UMNOMember of Parliament’s resolution in Parliament that missionary schools be made to remove all Christian religious symbols, statues and crosses was vetoed.
If not the Christians too would join the Buddhists and Hindus in opposing the government.
http://malaysianunplug.blogspot.com/2007/12/sabah-muftis-fatwa-buddhist-statues-are.html
#125 by emgbrl on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 4:28 pm
Dear Malaysians,
Let us all channel our Dissatisfaction & Disgust with the corrupt ruling UMNO Racist/Fascist Government by actively campaigning to all our friends,relatives, colleagues, neighbours & everybody else to VOTE WISELY & to REDUCE the BN Majority in BOTH State & Parliament Seats in the coming GE.We must do this in our Temples, Churches, Mosques and other places of worship.Not forgetting learning institutions and our workplaces as well.
The UMNO Govt is now Increasingly DESPERATE and has started its campaign to divide the People by Race,Religion , Political affiliation & Economic Class by its Daily Propaganda in the Media.
We must strive to open the eyes of all Malaysians and win their hearts & minds including those in the rural areas. Let us start this process NOW while there is still time!There are just TOO MANY issues going out of hand currently and this country is slowly but surely descending into CHAOS.
Too much energy is being wasted by fighting over too many issues. CHANGE begins internally in our OWN MINDS. Great Empires have been brought down by the will of the People when they all come together and speak in ONE VOICE!!!The Opposition should also speak in ONE VOICE and form a UNITED FRONT for the People!!!(THE PEOPLE’S FRONT/BARISAN RAKYAT)
Let us not allow the BN Propaganda Machine to succeed in dividing the People Further & Further in our minds!!!
Only when Malaysians are TRULY UNITED can this GIANT BEAST called BN be brought down to its knees!
Enough of Demonstrations & Petition Writings!!The UMNO-BN Govt can only be DEFEATED at the Ballot BOX!!So let’s work hard to deny them their majority at BOTH STATE & PARLIAMENT levels!!!
12/12 12:12:25
#126 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 6:02 pm
Can someone compile the litany of lies spread by PM/DPM?
Remember the Bumi and non-Bumi equity: 10, 20 or 90%? The whole issue has died down. Typical way to deal with the public knowing that memeory is short & media exposure is stifled.
Then the 18 corruption cases?
Then the…and the…and the….and the… ad nauseam…ad infinitum
I am so sickened and wearied by the profusion of lies and scandals. These monks simply have no morals. I am emotionally exhausted!
#127 by carloz28 on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 8:01 pm
V for Vendetta……
#128 by ktteokt on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 8:28 pm
“Made in Malaysia” Marcos in the making!!
#129 by liaw3003sc on Wednesday, 12 December 2007 - 9:52 pm
I’m real sad over the country’s situation. We love all Malaysian irrespective of race or religion (because God say so). The Hindraf only want to ask the government to provide systemised help to the poor Indian but the whole thing has been turn bloody upside down by the UMNO dictated government. What a shame and pity.
I believe many Malaysians are now being ‘lip tied’ by the government and PDRM’s threat of detention and invocation of ISA. What can we do now? Will someone please share some light.
The government must help the non-Malay poor like Felda taking care of their settlers; RM100 million allocation announced few days ago by DPM for various assistance to the settlers (including to provide 6 months post graduate training to settlers’ children with RM1000 monthly allowance!). What could the RM3 million allocated through MIC do for the whole Indian community?
And are the poverty statistic true? I have big doubt. Even if it is true. it must be a big failure on the part of the government if our Malay fellow country men is still having such a high poverty rate! Yes, we must also help them; get them into Felda scheme, or are they refusing to go? Just work as an oil palm plantation harvester will already net them easily RM500 a month; the poverty dividing line. In our resource rich country, I’m really puzzled if someone could not earn more than RM500 a month! I think its high time to put in at least 40% of non-Malay officers in the related ministries or departments to help reduce the poverty faster. I’m sure they will be able help achieve the poverty eradication target in no time! (I have the same idea for PROTON; why we need foreign partnership, we just need to pour in at least 40% non-Malay staffs and expect the radical change! I sincerely hope that my fellow Malay countrymen will take this as a practical and effective way to solve PROTON problem, and not as doubt to Malay’s capability).
I know there are so many Indonesian workers getting more than RM1000 a month just by doing oil palm fresh fruit bunches harvesting for the local oil palm small holders in Kluang. And if I’m not wrongly informed, many Felda settlers in Bukit Goh near Kuantan are employing Indonesian to do the harvesting for them, instead of doing it themselves. Are they still living in poverty? Are their income already net of payment to those Indonesian?
#130 by Samuel Goh Kim Eng on Saturday, 15 December 2007 - 11:12 pm
How dreadful to carry out any arrest
Before having the chance to take lunch rest
Hope we still have brains to do what is best
Lest we have to bear the brunt of being the world’s jest
(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 151207
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Sat. 15th Dec. 2007.