Ahmad Ismail revolt – when will Abdullah stop his flip-flops and demonstrate that he is Prime Minister for all Malaysians

The Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi suffered two mortal political blows within a short period of six months – the first “political tsunami” of March 8 general election which smashed UMNO’s political hegemony, ended Barisan Nasional (BN)’s unbroken two-thirds parliamentary majority and drove BN into the Opposition in five states now run by Pakatan Rakyat governments and the second “political tsunami” in the August 26 Permatang Pauh by-election, where Anwar Ibrahim stormed back to Parliament with a thumping majority of 15,524 votes after an enforced absence for a decade.

Who would have thought that Abdullah’s third mortal political blow could have struck so fast and so devastatingly as to plunge his image, credibility, authority and legitimacy as Prime Minister to their lowest point since he took over from Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad as the fifth Prime Minister less than five years ago?

And this third mortal political blow to Abdullah was primarily self-inflicted, the direct result of his flip-flops over Bukit Bendera Umno division chief, Datuk Ahmad Ismail’s racist reference to Malaysian Chinese as “penumpang” in the country.

In this instance, Abdullah out-flip-flopped himself as he took at least five different positions in the past two weeks, viz:

• On 30th August, Abdullah condoned and excused Ahmad’s offensive, insensitive and racist speech, claiming that Ahmad had not “meant it”.

• On 3rd September, to head off protests from all directions both inside and outside Barisan Nasional, Abdullah agreed that his deputy Datuk Seri Najib Razak should apologise on behalf of Ahmad, with Najib conceding: “It (Ahmad’s comment) was totally unwarranted and doesn’t reflect the position and attitude of Umno or the leadership of Umno. We regret it very much.”

• On 4th September, Abdullah adopted a third position declaring that he was trying to contact Ahmad to ask him to tender a personal apology.

• On 6th September, Abdullah backed down in the face of revolt by Ahmad endorsed by 13 Penang Umno divisions (including Abdullah’s Kepala Batas Umno division) refusing to tender any apology on the ground that he was the aggrieved party. Abdullah accepted Ahmad’s self-serving and ridiculous explanation that his speech “based on historical facts” had been misinterpreted by Sin Chew Daily.

• On 8th September, Abdullah declared that he was “very unhappy” with Ahmad’s second press conference yesterday as Ahmad had outdone his racism and insensitivity in the “penumpang” remark.

In his second press conference yesterday which was suggested by the Prime Minister, Ahmad, backed by 13 Penang Umno division leaders, warned the Chinese in Malaysia not to mimic American Jews in seeking to control the country’s economy but also its political power; told Gerakan to leave the Barisan Nasional; demanded that Gerakan acting president Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon should be stripped of his post as the state Barisan chairman and the post be given to the MCA and reiterated that he would not apologise for his “penumpang” remark made at a Permatang Pauh by-election ceramah on Aug 23.

At the end of the press conference, a picture of Tsu Koon, which was hanging on a wall, was publicly brought down and torn to pieces.

The whole country and even the world is watching as to whether Abdullah would allow himself to be held to ransom by an Umno division leader with the threat of leading an open revolt in Umno not only in Penang but also in the country.

The Ahmad revolt is the direct result of Abdullah’s weak and indecisive leadership, out-flip-flopping himself and transforming what should be a very small issue which could be resolved with a directive to Ahmad to apologise and set a good example as a model Malaysian into a major political and nation-building crisis.

Ahmad’s antics and histrionics are irrelevant and he should be ignored altogether.

The sole issue is whether Abdullah will stop his flip-flops and assert his authority and leadership to demonstrate that he is Prime Minister for all Malaysians regardless of race, religion or political beliefs and remain true to his pledges and commitmernts to uphold the 1957 Merdeka social contract, 1963 Malaysia Agreement, 1970 Rukunegara and Vision 2020 objective of a Bangsa Malaysia.

There are extremist and irresponsible politicians who are trying to fan racial flames to incite communal tensions and foment unrest as the passport to regain political mastery in the country.

As the Prime Minister for all Malaysians, Abdullah must slap down these extremist and irresponsible politicians and not allow them to rear their ugly heads to hold the future of the people and nation to ransom for their petty and despicable ambitions.

  1. #1 by PureMalaysian on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:23 am

    Ahmad is just another sheer arrogant UMNO goon. Even my Malay friends are feeling disgusted with this Ahmad fler!

  2. #2 by voice on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:25 am

    The whole world is laughing at us, PR must take over the federal government ASAP to save Malaysia!

  3. #3 by ALLAN THAM on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:25 am

    All right thinking Malaysian are sadden by this act of a small group of politician who has using this extreme racial tactic to hold on to their power. We all should condemn this kind of racist act. It is up to ABB to shown his leadership and act now.

  4. #4 by Bigjoe on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:35 am

    May I suggest Sdr. Lim, it may not be productive to put all the onus on Badawi at this stage of the game, less you play into the hands of those bigots. Even if Badawi does not flip-flop, he may not be up to fixing the problem, its just beyond his skill set at this point.

    I would like to suggest that you push BN component parties to instead attack UMNO Supreme Council particularly Najib instead of relying on the PM.

    Unless you are confident of taking over next week, if Badawi falls now, it will mean a longer road to fight against these bigots once they control UMNO. They will kill the goose before they let you have it. You want to be facing Badawi and Najib in the next two years and Najib in 4 years time. Otherwise you may not even get to face anyone in 4 years time i.e., they won’t let anyone vote.

    Let cooler head prevails…

  5. #5 by Malaysian Always on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:36 am

    PR: Do not let us down! Actions like these by Ahmad Ismail scare us, and we need an assurance that 13/5/1969 won’t re-occur!

  6. #6 by riversandlakes on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:39 am

    What Lah is a goner…

  7. #7 by kcl on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:40 am

    Malaysians in central America are watching this news closely with a heartache. Having lived in central America for the past 20 years or so, our hearts are still very much Malaysian. Malaysia is still a place we call home. Everywhere we go and when we were asked what nationality are you…”Malaysia” will be a proud answer!!

    It will certainly be degrading and sad when I go home oneday soon, I am still regarded as a “pendatang”.

    I really hope I can maintain my speech to call myself a Malaysian everywhere I travel in the US.

    I want to maintain my Malaysian identity and proudly tell all my American counterparts that Malaysia is still a place for me to call home.

    Hopefully one rotten freaking Umno racist will not sink the entire ship!!

  8. #8 by lkc57 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:40 am

    AAB has been struggling for words. So pathetic! He is under serious duress. If he is not going, the whole country will break up into pieces.

    There is a Chinese saying: “Dragon gives birth to dragon, phoenix gives birth to phoenix; Rats are born to burrow in the ground.”

    We simply can’t expect AAB not to fumble. He does not have leadership quality. Worse, he has the advisers who give him all the wrong medicine.

  9. #9 by Mr Smith on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:43 am

    Let us ignore Ahmad once and for all. Shun him as a leper. Lets us not add fuel to the fire he is trying to deliberately ignite.
    We have absolutely nothing to gain by dancing to his tune.
    I am also sure Malays, by and large, will not fall for his evil strategy to start a riot.

  10. #10 by kerajaan.rakyat on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:47 am

    Dear YB Lim,

    Abdullah and his UMNO is a gone case.

    Just 7 days to go for 16 Sept 2008,
    Cast your vote here:

  11. #11 by HJ Angus on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:47 am

    Both of you have been in the political line for umpteen years but I don’t know how good is your relationship with the PM.

    It may be an act of superior statesmanship if you were able to reach out a hand and give him some advice privately for the best interests of the nation.

    Better to delay the birth of a new Freedom than to have it still-born.

  12. #12 by baochingtian on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:49 am

    If PM can’t handle this racist, how can we depend on him for strategies to bring Malaysia forward? Can close shop oredi!

  13. #13 by AhPek on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:53 am

    What else does this Bodowi knows other than flip flopping? He is in the PM job for the money and the priveleges that the job confers.His leadership is zilch and we can expect zilch from him in dealig with this latest crisis.

  14. #14 by k1980 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:57 am

    It is clear that Ahamd ismail is following instructions from the mamak king who wants ethnic strife and emergency rule so that his son the scum of jerlun can seize power

  15. #15 by pulau_sibu on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:59 am

    Why Ahmad was mad at Tsu Koon? The total defeat of Gerakan let BN and UMNO losing power. Ahmad and his UMNO associates all lost the percentages of kantau. No power means no money to UMNO.

    May be this is the first time we as new generation saw the real face of UMNO. I think most of them like to do the same, like Kris waving

  16. #16 by pulau_sibu on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:04 am

    But as I wrote earlier, it is unfair to give death threatS to the reporters. The reporters should lodge police report. Let see what these police will be doing. Isn’t this life threatening more serious than Saiful’s butt?

  17. #17 by chinymin on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:06 am

    PM is very unhappy with AI’s remark and arrogance. He demanded another explanation from him(?) before action is taken against him(?). I doubt if any appropriate disciplinary action will be taken by AAB other than “I am now satisfied with his second explanation”, “he assured me that he will not do it again”, “I am sure he won’t do it again”.
    Common, PM AAB, show us and prove to us that you are the present PM of Malaysia. Take severe action on AI now, TODAY, before it is too late.

  18. #18 by Freddy on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:10 am

    what worries me is that, in malaysiakini’s news, it reported that racist ahmad claimed that ‘badawi asked him to hold another press conference.

    so, if the press conference held yesterday was in fulfilling badawi’s request, more questions beckons!

  19. #19 by oknyua on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:10 am

    This is the sad state of our nation, YB Lim. On one hand we stress the importance of unity, on the other hand, the leadership is too weak to impose discipline. The end result, the people suffers.

    The weakness of Abdullah has hurt the nation badly. His apparent lack of resolve cause people to speculate; is he an interested party? Is there something for him to gain for this? Lets look beyond Ahmad and his Penang UMNO. Look at the big picture. We have concluded Abdullah can’t lead, even if he is the UMNO president, but what can we do about it?

    Asking that question seems to meet with a blank wall. Nothing. Nothing we can do. We can’t remove him. We can’t impose changes. We are just helpless witness to the destruction of our nation.

  20. #20 by yhsiew on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:10 am

    I am sure there are disciplinary rules in UMNO. Abdullah should immediately invoke such rules to rein in “dangerous upheavals” caused by Ahmad Ismail before the situation escalates into a full-blown racial riot.

    Action should be taken against Ahmad Ismail if he fails to abide by UMNO disciplinary rules.

    I am sure there are proper ways for Ahmad Ismail to express his displeasure over Sin Chew’s report. The way he did it is just unacceptable – tearing down pictures of Mr. Koh and threatening news reporters.

  21. #21 by localgrad on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:22 am

    Yo! keep it up man you fatty Ahmad Ismail.

    Dollah is like those Ancient Chinese Emperor that has lost his grip on his warlords/generals. He need them for the UMNO election, so he has balls to call it a day by penalizing him.

    Tsu Koon, u r paying your price by letting this kind of people worked under your government previously… but when u lost power, these people just torn off your photo.

    To Kah Ting aka Kow Tow, y shouting like a mad dog now whereas u should do more before march 08. y now? tell me y? r u trying to gain support again from the chinese again? too late man.

    To PR, uncle Kit and other Chinese leader. Please stay cool and NOT drill into this because this maybe the evil plan of UNMNO to create another version of 513.

    What PR did by the release of official media statement on the issue was indeed vey astute and correct! Please DO NOT act like a desperate MAD DOG like TK and KT as it will worsen the situation.

    STAY COOL MAN… no point take down one AHMAD then come more AHMAD clone.

    Just cant wait to see what will transpire post 16 sept

  22. #22 by drmaharajahrk on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:22 am

    50 years ago they were backward people, they needed help to survive.

    They asked the chinese and Indians to help them, teach them skills, how to do business, places in Universities, Government contracts……….all at the expense of the Kafirs, and all at the expense of Quality

    Today after achieving what they want and learnin g the trade, they ask the Kafirs to leave….


  23. #23 by Freddy on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:28 am

    yhsiew Says:
    The way he did it is just unacceptable – tearing down pictures of Mr. Koh and threatening news reporters.
    13 UMNO divisions … May 13 …. Badawi’s favourite number 13.
    badawi is a bad omen for the nation!
    not enough?
    dap organising golf competition while umno organising AMOK competition?
    hahahahaha the country is turning upside down!!!

  24. #24 by ktteokt on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:34 am

    If KTK is still in a state of “immunity” after yesterday’s tearing of his photograph, he may as well be dead! Such display of arrogance and disrespect by UMNO members towards an ex-chief minister! It only goes to prove that KTK has lost all popularity!

    What are you waiting for KTK? For the durians to fall? Get out of BN while you are still in one piece!

  25. #25 by drabdulwahid on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:36 am

    salam mr lim

    as you are aware, paklah has no hope, neither have we in him. so i urge that PR brothers will go down to the grass roots election campaign style and calm the masses down. at the moment there is one side that is stoking the fire, while on the other side simply releases press conference. i urge you to move your party machinery and show the people your worth in this multiracial mentality

    thank you, just a piece of my mind

  26. #26 by Samuel Goh Kim Eng on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:38 am

    Anywhere when a ‘chieftian’ wants to act like a king
    Will surely bring his nation right down to its brink
    When he rudely and coarsely says what he really thinks
    Even from a distance we can smell that everything stinks

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 090908
    Tue. 9th Sept. 2008.

  27. #27 by tenggiri suci on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:39 am

    This could be an extreme sendiwara by BN goons as a pretext to declare emergency. Parliament is at stake, speaker & BN MPs on holiday while country rots. Run!! Run!! Run!!!

    Be care, be very careful please!!

  28. #28 by jeremiah on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:41 am

    There are two issues which the PM and BN leaders need to distinguish in Ahmad’s case. First, he made an intepretation of our historical roots in this country, which is a matter of his opinion. Second he linked the first interpretation to our rights as citizens, which is against the constitution.

    The PM and BN leaders should allow this man air his opinion in a quiet and civil way. Then deal with what he has to recommend.

  29. #29 by Jan on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:41 am

    UMNO’s party elections is just round the corner. Ahmad Ismail is worth one vote with another 13 behind him. Badawi has to weigh whether to have that 14 votes or cast aside his personal interests.
    That we will know in due course.

  30. #30 by madmix on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:44 am

    Do not ask for apology or to do the right thing. Leave them to their racist ways. The rakyat will now know for sure that BN/UMNO is a racist party who will champion the cause of one race only and not all Malaysians. Just highlight there racist remarks for all to see.
    The issues for the next election becomes very clear: Racist versus non-race. Opaque government who practice negotiated tenders etc versus open transparent government. Oppressive government versus enlightened government.

  31. #31 by gofortruth on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:45 am

    This is a cunning racial ploy cooked up by Abdul Ismail to stir up havoc and the slowness in UMNO’s response shows that they are riding along on the ticket. Don’t be ensnared by this dirty trap!

    If UMNO is sincere, where is the home minister Syed Hamid who is responsible for peace in Malaysia?

    Chinese is not against the Malays & Muslims, in fact more than 70% of Chinese voted for a Malay& Muslim Anwar Ibrahim in the recent PP by election and more than 60% of Malays voted for Anwar. There is no race or religion issue here, the Rakyat are just not happy with BN, UMNO in particular and they want to give PR a chance.

    So Malaysians of all race & religions, do not be fooled by this ploy.

    Let the Malays from PR come out strongly to rebute this Abdul Ismail and condemn his poisonous racist remarks.

  32. #32 by king cobra on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:46 am

    one little two little three little slap slap ,
    four little five little six little slap slap ,
    seven little eight little nine little slap slap ,
    ten little slap slap for …………flip…..flop

  33. #33 by newchief on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:46 am

    bodowi flip-flop again!! can this be the most important reason to be presented to the Agung that he as the pm , is not doing his job professionally as expected. he didn’t take immediate actions but instead delaying any actions and trying to throw the racism remaiks by fat ahmad under the carpet and telling people to let it to rest!!

    how can we rest when we live under bn regime saying we are tumpang only and has no rights in malaysia? this ismail even dare to openly demand gerakan to pull out and the gerakan photo were all torn down!! today , chaos maybe within the bn but what happen if ismail decides to make chaos WITHIN THE PUBLIC!!??

    i strongly demand PK and other races to come & join hands to march (AS PROTECTORS OF ALL RACERS irrespective of parties like mcs,gerakan,mic,etc ) to the King to take actions against bodowi since bodowi can’t handle the case well enough!!

  34. #34 by Joetan on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:48 am

    Like what I said in my earlier comment UMNO is breeding extremists. With Abdullah weak leadership, all hell broke loose in the party. Abdullah weak leadership simply fails to disipline these extremists which UMNO had been breeding all this while. Abdullah had made mistakes after mistakes and this shows very clearly his weaknesses and his inability to hold the highest position in Malaysia which is the prime minister post. He should have disiplined these extremist in UMNO during the past UMNO assembly where these extremist were so bold to utter seditious words which hurt the feelings of the non-malays in this country. Instead he chose to gave only light punishment like only warning to these extremist. This made these extremist bolder because they think that they are above the laws and enjoyed impunity. Now, they are so bold that they even dare to challenge their president and their deputy president decision. I am not a politician and I do not belong to any political party. I decided to vote for a change in the government after sensing the damage that may have been done to our multi-ethnic country. Till now, I have no regret in voting for a change.

  35. #35 by FY Lim on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:49 am

    Looks like Ahmad Ismail wields greater power than the President of UMNO, BN and PM of Malaysia. He can demand Gerakan to leave BN and appoint MCA to be the Chairman of Penang BN. Why ? because of the fricklemindedness of the PM of Malaysia.

    He is the warload of Bukit Bendera and Penang just like the Zakaria of Port Klang fame. He thinks by shouting louder and pointing fingers even at journalists , the people can be cowed. No way man ! Maybe, he think by doing this to Tsu Koon before and got what he wanted, he can do it again at others. Maybe, he thought his shouting game can get all the contracts awarded by the state govt but alas now this is a new ballgame altogether with a new no non-sense PR state govt.

    His political antics of the 1950’s would not work and ricocheted back at him. Can the people of Penang trust and place your confidence in this type of divisive, deceitful and arrogant leaders from UMNO and BN to be the state govt again ? We had wasted 50 years of glorious years and would not waste another 50 years with this brand of divide and rule politics played by UMNO and BN.

    He mentioned that he can ” silat ” better ” than Tsu Koon. Sure, look at how he “silat” the blame onto the innocent Sin Chew reporter. He claimed that the reporter and Sin Chew Press is ” twisting ” my words and therefore should be prosecuted and apologise to him and religion and the Chinese community ! He is the silat master of the highest category.

  36. #36 by chaiong on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:51 am

    Tsu Koon, you have been a Ruuuuuning Dog for BN for the past 18 years. The True Karma is ripe now! Are you awake now?

  37. #37 by wizzerd on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:51 am

    AAB – if he takes actions against Ahmad Ismail, his position in UMNO is under threat.
    AAB- if he doesn’t, he can count on UMNO to prop him up and hope that 916 doesn’t happen.
    Mamak king – out to get AAB and Najib no matter what.

  38. #38 by wizzerd on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:54 am

    KTK must have felt played out by the UMNO goons. He has been trying so hard to ‘hide’ and ‘deflect’ the land scams from the public to protect the real culprits behind the scene. And now..those people he is trying to protect bit him back, and tore him(his picture) to pieces, literally.
    Learnt your lesson now, Tan Sri?

  39. #39 by pulau_sibu on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:54 am

    In 1986, Reagan during a news conference called Gaddafi “this mad dog of the Middle East”……

    Can I also borrow Reagan’s word and call some one the mad dog of … ?

  40. #40 by wanderer on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:01 am

    You are either a born leader or a made leader, AAB is neither.
    This trouble maker Ahmad is beating the old UMNO war drum, if no drastic action is taken by PM, he has not only failed himself, he has failed the nation.

  41. #41 by thaiming on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:07 am

    AAB culture is today say yes & tomolo say no………in the BOLEHLAND anything can , right??…..Tsu Koon just JUAL MURAH!!!
    I think GERAKAN = EXPIRED!!!!

  42. #42 by k1980 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:11 am

    Surely the reporters covering the ceramah have in their possession a tape-recording of Ahmad Ismail’s “squatter” speech? Just produce that, and that umno warlord would not be able to claim, like Lingam, “Looks like me, sounds like me, but it’s my twin brother Ali Ismail”

  43. #43 by N. Kiru on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:11 am

    In the interest of national unity, the country should move away from the likes of Ahmad Ismail , a crude and visceral politician, whose hoity-toity rantings is both confused and confusing, Ahmad , your five minutes to fame is up!

  44. #44 by milduser on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:13 am

    Say what we like, it was LKS with his unusual sense for details started the ball rolling, if you know what I mean!

  45. #45 by milduser on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:15 am

    It’s a rare gift.

  46. #46 by Mr Tan. on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:24 am

    Ahmad Ismail is only one of the selfish demons among the UMNO members.
    Just because the Malays immigrated to Malaysia earlier than the Chinese and Indians, that doesn’t give them any special rights.

    The Chinese and Indians are cheated by Razak and Onn and Mahathir and the rest into agreeing to let the Malays catch-up in economy wise with their racial discriminatory NEP which suppose to end in 1990. Now they want it permanent.

    Every one whether Malays, Chinese and Indians pay the same amount of Tax every time they buy a Macdonald burger or when they pay their Income tax.
    If the Malays have their special rights, why aren’t they paying more taxes then the non-Malays.

    Every human beings is living in only one world, the Earth. Advance countries have already known this for centuries.
    UMNO is one of those demons that use the special rights issue to draw supports from certain group( the Majority.) as they thought that the Majority can forever bully the Minority.

    Let us all reject them once and for all to save the human race.

  47. #47 by Damocles on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:26 am

    “therwise you may not even get to face anyone in 4 years time i.e., they won’t let anyone vote.” – Bigjoe

    Although it is useless to communicate with the BN, especially UMNO, anymore, it is still good for Uncle Lim to highlight such issues.
    The main objective for the PR now is to capture the reigns of government as soon as possible; the sooner the better!
    That’s the only hope for a better Malaysia!

  48. #48 by pwcheng on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:27 am

    Datuk Sri Lim Kheng Yaik, advisor to Gerakan, why are you remaining dead silent. What is your advise to Gerakan now??

    It do not take you more than 30 years to know the true colors of UMNO, Do You?? If you do than your intelligence is not too far off from our sleepy PM.

  49. #49 by taiking on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:28 am

    Star Online today, Sept 8, 2008:

    “A visibly upset Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said he would seek an explanation as to why things got unruly in Penang yesterday.

    He was referring to the press conference at Menara Umno in George Town where Ahmad’s supporters tore up a poster of former Penang chief minister …

    “We will get an explanation as to why it happened and after that we will decide on the action to be taken against him”, he told reporters …”

    Wow. I am impressed. Look at those strong words. And the indication of determined and definite actions that would be taken.

    But wait a minute. The fiasco started sometime back. Well then again, I suppose its better late than never.

    But didnt he realise that in politics (and public administration) slow action is as good as no action.

    So whether or not those strong words were translated into real actions later on, it makes not a difference.

    I hear a call by some to re-import mahathir into umno. Well the old man will surely discover in umno a pair of old socks – loose, ill fitting and sliding toe-wards all the time. Oh that can be annoying.

  50. #50 by Mr Tan. on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:32 am

    Ahmad Ismail should know that only dinosours should have rights to claim that they appear in this world the earliest.

    The Malays, Americans, Europeans, Chinese, Indians all came later.

    Ahmad should go challenge the Dinosours and not Koh Soo Koon.

    Ahmad Ismail and his followers belonged to the real few primitive human being that is around in this world today.

  51. #51 by Damocles on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:38 am

    Uncle Lim, let me digress a little from the topic.
    There is another solution that I have been thinking about.
    Since the Malays outnumber all the other races and an election is a one man, one vote affair, why don’t the minority races engage the Malays in a population race!
    I’m quite sure that the combined efforts of these minorities will result in their becoming the majority races which ultimately mean more votes for them and with good governance in the areas captured by them, may also result in their having a two-thirds majority, with the power to change the constitution for the betterment of all Malaysians.

  52. #52 by k1980 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:39 am

    Lim Keng Yaik’s advice to Gerakan members now is : All Clap and cheer loudly when Ahmad Ismail next burns the gerakan party flag. Then all kneel and kowtow 3 times to him and cry, “We hear and obey oh master Ahmad”

  53. #53 by LionHeart on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:41 am

    whats right is right, and wrong, wrong, irregardless of race and background.
    The new malaysia should uphold the rule of law.It takes courage and leadership to make the right decision, even though it may be unpopular.

    I really wonder for someone with a big house, and his own private pool, is the right person to be talking about being oppressed.

    I believe there will be more of this to come, in their last desperate attempt to remain in power.

    It is even more vital for us to stick together now, as we come towards the final countdown.

    Please remain cool and calm, and protest silently. The wolfs in sheeps clothing would try to confuse us now.They would pretend to be fighting for us, when they are the actual ones that devour us.

    Be smart, malaysians.Keep our eyes on the prize. A country, for once, we can call home and mean it. An environment, for once, where we are all brothers and sisters.A vibrant economy, that is lucrative and where the revenues are used to help all malaysians, irregardless of background. Lets put some meaning back into our citizenship.

    At the end of the day, we should ask ourselves what does it mean to be a malaysian? Not what does it mean to be a malay, chinese or indian.

    Whats wrong is wrong, whats right is right. This should be applied to all malaysians.

  54. #54 by ShiokGuy on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:44 am

    Dear All,

    This is just another show or act that we stirred up the emotion of different races. DAP or PR’s component parties should not join in the bandwagon and sing to the tune of the racist comment.

    Just ignore them, let MCA sing the tune. PR’s component parties should instead outline how and why BN start this racist show/act, I belief UMNO, MCA, MIC and all BN’s component parties know about this act behind closed door. I am not surprise if they have organize and become actors in it too.

    Be more mature lah!

    Shiok Guy

  55. #55 by ahkok1982 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:47 am

    AAB will definitely NOT order AI to apologize. Maybe KTK is also play-acting to demand AI to apologize.
    If AAB were to order AI, it is Malay ordering a Malay. No racial tension.
    If KTK demands from AI, then it is Chinese vs Malay. Start to prepare for 513 already…

    No point in asking AAB to take action. I think this is what he wants. My bet is that AI will continue to rant and shout about pendatangs and all. He may even add more insults…
    PR should send people out to tell the masses to ignore such insults. Do not reply when provoked.
    Also, do send a message that whatever the BN component parties say, esp Gerakan and MCA and MIC, they do NOT represent all Chinese or Indians or any other ethnicity in Malaysia. They have been voted out so they are not representing us.
    I am sure that they will be used to utter some racist remarks back at the Malays thus sparking another 513.
    BN goons want their power back badly and I am very sure that they are willing to kill for it.

  56. #56 by cvl on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:49 am

    Ahmad’s latest outburst fits quite there as one of those unseen hands poignantly composed in ‘Hidden Hands’ by Said Zahari in Kuah’s May 13 book.But all Malaysians would be the loser fi given to sentiments.

    So I would deal with Ahmad’s venture firstly as a product of democratic leeway come hithetrto to the Malaysian political scene, and secondly to optimize efforts dealing with such type of incendiary.

    Malaysian have AAB to thank/curse for the more liberal leeway AAB has allowed since he became the Malaysian PM. Whether this came about intentionally or an unintentional does not matter. This liberty to speak one’s mind unhindered by police action is the very essence making up democracy.Malaysian particulary those in the opposition have always sought the government allow democratic ways to prevail. [Of course, it would be only true democracy if any Tom Dick and Harry can likewise speak their mind unhindered by police actions].Therefor in true democratic spirit, Ahmad’s outburst should be rebutted convincingly in similar manner [press statements] showing where the errors and flaws are in Ahmad’s frenzy. In other words, treat the whole episode as a public debate – nothing more, nothing less. No ones feelings and sentiments need be hurt. Treated this way, racial sentiments and its ugly tail, racial incitement, WILL not come about – Ahmad has just been proving this on quick take. Two quick takes can be made here: keep alive this government, and treat Ahmad offering as an open invitation to public debate.

    However, Ahmad outburst should also be viewed as an ‘improvished explosive device'[IED] under the control of master planner[s]. As such, having ‘exploded’ Ahmad is nothing more but a spent and shattered casing – he is no longer a concern at all. But there can be many of such IEDs. As in Iraq, these IEDs can cause a lot of collateral, and are highly dramatic and physcological intimidating in nature as intended to be. But as also in Iraq, the best way to neutralize and render safe from such IED is to understand the mind of the planners, gather forensics, and pin down the master planner.

    So, deal with Ahmad through the democratic ways, keeping in mind that he is already a spend shell. However, there can be many future Ahmads, and the best way to deal with them is to expose its master handlers.

  57. #57 by anak_malaysia on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:52 am

    i would advise everyone to ignore this racist ahmad… i believed this is part of his strategies to stoke racial sentiment which leads to clashes and to declare Emergency… Penang is not under BeeNd anymore ma… Penang is under DAPs control and of cause our fella UNMO goons tak dapat cari makan ma… periuk nasi going to be kering, thats why la they reacted this way… want to cause Emergency then DAP cant rule anymore… he thinks the rakyat are also as bodoh as him… we, chinese, are far more educated today… do you think that a CLOWN can really provoke us??? so everyone dont fall into his trap of creating another may 13… let DAP do their job in Penang and slowly the UNMO goons will die of hunger…

  58. #58 by Japhlee on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:58 am

    Why is this Ahmad acting as such?

    My deduction is that he is on his ‘last leg’ and is going for broke. Since he has not much to lose, might as well, play to the extreme; giving provocative statements, et cetera.

    One thing for sure, he has no respect for its leaders; to be exact BN – UMNO, least to its state’s leader. Whatever his motive is, it is not good to create such ruckus lately particularly in this month of Ramadan. Humbleness and utmost respect to Allah is vital in this month. His actions can tell you what type of a person he is.

    All in all, he should realize his actions and come to senses. I hope all things will settle quickly and amicably without resorting to any actions that will lead to disharmony.

  59. #59 by Bigjoe on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:59 am

    Again why is Badawi being held solely responsible for this? I have always said we lived in a elected Sultanate but even I don’t hold Badawi entirely responsible for this. The truth is the entire UMNO Supreme Council is responsible for this.

    Tan Siok Choo daughter of Tan Siew Sin and grandaugther of Tan Cheng Lock puts it correctly, when he said Ahmad Ismail is a collective Malay political leadership problem.

  60. #60 by anak_malaysia on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:00 pm

    ‘Sack Ahmad and detain him under ISA’

    nahh…. save your words la… ISA is only for Rakyat and leaders of PR… those UNMO goons are invulnerable of ISA… we shall see any ‘stern’ actions will be taken on him… we have a minister in Bolehland putting ISA on hindraf n RPK on the 2nd day of the incident but no ISA for racist Ahmad even after 1 week… Konon the botak said, ISA is essential to maintain peace of the country… come on la… stoking racist sentiment still safe ah… another double standard in Bolehland…

  61. #61 by gofortruth on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:03 pm

    All ears are waiting to hear from our home minister Syed Hamid. Is he at home?
    Instead we have this:-

  62. #62 by jus legitimum on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:06 pm

    It is not fair to place the entire blame on AAB for the furore caused by AI.The big mouth old mamak should be taken to task for the deep seated racism and arrogance nurtured by his party during his 22 years as the helmsman.

    To AI,”Hang ada badan gemuk macam khinzir dan kulit yang tebal macam gajah.Kenapa hang berani cakap tapi takut dan enggan mengakui apa yang hang kata?Tak payahlah tuduh pemberita daripada Akbar Sin Chew untuk salah lapor.Semua orang dalam negara ini tahu hang ni seorang yang tidak bermoral.Hang ni jantanke atau pondan?”

  63. #63 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:07 pm

    What is disconcerting is that the PM has lashed out at Ahmad Ismail ostensibly for reasons that he has no right to ask BN to sack Gerakan rather than the more significant ground that he made racist remarks “Pendatang” of the Chinese community and instead of amelorating further compounded the injury by reference to “Amercans Jews”.

    What is further disconcerting is that up to now Ahmad Ismail appears to have so far escaped immediate punishment/discipline and successfully stood up against and undercut the moral authority (primarily) of PM Badawi (whose supposedly home state is Penang from which the 13 ‘rebellious’ divisions supporting Ahmad Ismail are based) and, to a lesser extent, the deputy Najib (who has apologised for UMNO on his behalf) as well.

    This is UMNO factional struggle at its most intense. One can only wonder whether Ahmad Ismail’s recalcitrant stance and playing the usual race/religious card is acting alone in response to or creating opportunities or in acting in concert with premeditation backed by other power brokers.

    I guess the general feeling amongst power brokers is that something has to be done fast to undermine PM’s leadership which left alone will lead to Anwar’s Pakatan Rakyat taking over relegating UMNO to dustbin of history for another 50 years.

    We must remember that the vested interests accumulating over 50 years of BN’s rule are very extensive reaching every fabric of government and society. They will never allow, at any costs, Anwar’s PR to take over in this way and in this time. Let us not kid ourselves that things will proceed smoothly as Anwar plans. Already our Ringgit is sliding fast against (rising) US Dollar in part due to outflow of the monies including ill gotten gains of vested interests out of the country – just in case….

    The threat of a take over by crossovers is taken very seriously or else:-

    1. Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad would not have been persuaded to rejoin Umno to support Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah for the post of Umno president in the party elections in December as disclosed lately by Sabaruddin Chik;

    2. 49 BN MPs won’t be taken for a ‘study’ tour to Taiwan. Sure, this is not a permanent solution. However it suffices to thwart Anwar from meeting the magical deadline of 16th Sept laden with symbolic significance to East Malaysians!

    This is because whatever documentation Anwar has obtained – if he has obtained such – regarding defections will likely be after 8th March 12th Election but before the 12th election candidates put by by BN would have put up declarations that they were loyal to BN’s parties and would not defect that presumably conflict with such latter declarations to defect that they might have given DSAI. In such a conflict of documentaion, if the crossovers were to be brought to the Yang di Pertuan Agong to make up the numbers, His Majesty might just require pysical presence of defecting MPs to confirm that their latter declarations to DSAI prevail and subsist superseding their earlier ones to BN! If these MPs are not present on 16th Sept. then there is no way for DSAI to achieve his stated purpose by that date!

    Stability of the country no hinges on how the PM handles and diffuses the crisis created by Ahmad Ismail who seems to be bolder by appeasement. If mischief makers were behind him, then anything can happen for an excuse to be concocted to foil PR’s takeover plans by a clampdown.

  64. #64 by drmaharajahrk on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:07 pm

    Body reached space but mentality still like Parameswara

  65. #65 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:10 pm

    Correction of last para of post under moderation – “Stability of the country NOW hinges on how…”

  66. #66 by boh-liao on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:12 pm

    We are moving closer and closer to 16 September 2008, the date that marks a watershed in Malaysian history!

    “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…” (Charles Dickens) – A Tale of Two Periods in Malaysian history.

    Obviously Ahmad Ismail and his gang of Umno warloards from Penang are agents provocateurs, deliberately provoking Malays and nonMalays to carry out rash action or racial riot. They were using words that deserve them to be locked up under ISA. They were telling AAB and NR to F Off! They want the nation to enter into a state of chaos and emergency!

    Can anyone keep a tight rein on the potentially dangerous and explosive incitement of Ahmad Ismail and his gang of Umno warloards? It looks like AAB cannot. Who can?

    KTK – Why do people still expect him to function properly? His head had already been torn off from his neck and his face had already been ripped to pieces by Ahmad Ismail and his gang of Umno warloards! No more KTK lah!

    Funny, for a guy who sold his soul and principles to work with Umnoputras for so many years, this is the terrible ending he got from Umnoputras. See how they tore KTK up – it reminds us of one of the worst ways ever of bestowing death to a human by an ancient emperor: five horses separate body (“wu ma fen shi “)! RIP!

  67. #67 by ktteokt on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:13 pm

    Since when are we on “military rule” that military personnel can comment on civilian matters?

  68. #68 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:19 pm

    PM appears to be in a quandary. 13 UMNO divisions supporting Ahmad Ismail are from Penang – supposedly his power base. And these UMNO divisions have alienated Penang’s Gerakan & MCA as well. The entire BN of Penang is in disarray: if one were to have an election tomorrow, the PM may lose his parliamentary seat! That’s how big the crisis and that’s why he is using kid’s glove to deal with these group of ‘rebels’, who are only emboldened by his appeasing approach to undermine his authority further.

    Meanwhile MalaysiaInsider reported :

    (Quote) /// “Malaysia’s Defence Forces Chief Jen Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Zainal has asked the government to take stern action against those who bring up racial issues. This is because such issues can bring about chaos to the country”.

    The General’s remarks comes amid rising tensions brought about by the controversial comments about the Chinese in Malaysia which was made by Bukit Bendera Umno division chief Datuk Ahmad Ismail.

    Abdul Aziz’s is considered unusual because it is rare for Malaysian military officials to comment on civilian issues/// (unquote).

    Food for thought!

  69. #69 by Ken G on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:22 pm

    Ahmad’s attempt to rouse racial sentiments will not work. Malaysian society is far removed from 40 years ago. The conditions for 513 which was a sharp class divide between the races no longer exist now.

    Nevertheless, these rabble rousers will still give it a shot. Badawi’s mistake was not to put down Ahmad immediately. His went on to make an even bigger mistake to accept Ahmad’s half-baked explanation.

    If Badawi fail to take stern action now, his position as PM will be untenable. If it flares further, he may have to go immediately. But why should this enlarge further unless those in power are totally inept at managing this third tier leader?

    When the dust has settled, it is the component parties in BN which will suffer the greatest damage. No more can they pretend that they are in a power sharing partnership with respect for all races. The racist face of Umno has been revealed and the weakness of the response by Umno leaders will continue to haunt the coalition which may even break up.

  70. #70 by Rocky on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:29 pm

    Pak Lah is a lalang and he is no leader. He is taking the country down with him…stupid selfish person who calls himself a good muslim.

  71. #71 by Kasim Amat on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:31 pm

    Finally, we see a Malay hero who speaks the minds of all Malay. Datuk Ahmad Ismail is a brave leader and he is the new hero of all Malay. All the orang Melayu should look up to him as an example. We have finally stood up and we want to tell the world that we will not fear any threats and we will fight with our life to protect our rights and things belong to us. No one can challenge our rights. The Chinese have since made ridiculous demand for the UMNO division chief to apologise over something that is historically correct. There is nothing wrong to state the fact. The Chinese were immigrants and they should accept the fact that they are subordinated to the Malay if they want to live in this country. Anyone who intend to challenge our rights will have to bear serious consequences. The act from the Bukit Bendera Umno division chief is a brave one and it represents a new generation of Malay leaders who do not fear anything. His act should be highly commended and acknowledged by all the rest of UMNO leaders.

  72. #72 by drmaharajahrk on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:31 pm

    mayb Ahmad Ismail is a Pakatan mole planted in UMNO to bring down BN by Sept 16 th ?

    Ever thought about this theory ?

  73. #73 by drmaharajahrk on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:31 pm

    sorry NOT theory ……HYPOTHESIS !

  74. #74 by aiD_kamikuP on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:36 pm

    After 2 mortal blows to Abdullah, this third one is actually a Towering Inferno.
    What an irony it is….an insider incendiary who is the arsonist.

    Do we have a Fire Chief Steve McQueen this time around?

  75. #75 by Emily Pratt on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:50 pm

    Ahmad Ismail should be commented for sacrificing his political career to oust Pak Bodoh.

    His antics is sandiwara to make Pak Bodoh look bad so that his Dec’ 08 party election will go badly in his favour.

    Well done Ahmad! Keep up the sandiwara.


  76. #76 by kun9999 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:59 pm

    Look at Malaysia, the country is heading toward the path of 3rd or even 4th world country if BN keep on ruling…

    Many grads like myself are leaving Malaysia & found neighbour country like Singapore are more peaceful & stable… where every1 have the chance to prove themselves based on their merits. I have no regrets working in Singapore and have become PR in just 2 month time.

    I do hope that on 16 September, PR will bring good news to all Malaysian and steer Malaysia around from the political, financial, people disaster.

  77. #77 by limkamput on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:05 pm

    Kasim Amat@third world tribal leader says: “Finally, we see a Malay hero who speaks the minds of all Malay. Datuk Ahmad Ismail is a brave leader and he is the new hero of all Malay.”

    Yes Kasim, Ahmad Ismail is the hero and leader of extremist Malays like you, not all Malays. Most Malays are like us, we have long seen UMNO was just fighting for a small group of cronies like yourself.

  78. #78 by taiking on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:12 pm

    Kassim said:

    “Finally, we see a Malay hero who speaks the minds of all Malay.”

    A hero of all malays? I am not so sure if he could include in that statement PAS malays and keAdilan malays.

    Anyway, let us all watch the political death of this kassim hero and enjoy it fully.

    My only hope is that it will not turn into a sudden end – an anti-climax.

    Dont forget your popcorns and coca cola guys.

  79. #79 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:13 pm

    Fact is AAB-NAJIS was another crooked, why they kept naive pretend to be mr nice guy are simply act.

    AI knew to much of AAB-NAJIS secrets behind their role. He now had taken for granted this situation, turns table as he wants equal shares, angered by Tsu Koon from loosing Penang seats, shooing the “penumpang” Koh Tsu Koon who taken larger amount shares from him.

    Using Race Religion as His dagger trying to create unrest among Nation, what else can this retard do, Look at his jade jewelry on his fat fingers!

    If his not one of the culprits of corruption the Nation Malaysian wont be this possition today!.

  80. #80 by laufuzhe28 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:18 pm

    Let’s all consider the following posts carefully:

    # Bigjoe Says:
    Today at 09: 35.58 (2 hours ago)

    “May I suggest Sdr. Lim, it may not be productive to put all the onus on Badawi at this stage of the game, less you play into the hands of those bigots. Even if Badawi does not flip-flop, he may not be up to fixing the problem, its just beyond his skill set at this point.
    I would like to suggest that you push BN component parties to instead attack UMNO Supreme Council particularly Najib instead of relying on the PM.
    Unless you are confident of taking over next week, if Badawi falls now, it will mean a longer road to fight against these bigots once they control UMNO. They will kill the goose before they let you have it. You want to be facing Badawi and Najib in the next two years and Najib in 4 years time. Otherwise you may not even get to face anyone in 4 years time i.e., they won’t let anyone vote.
    Let cooler head prevails…”

    # Mr Smith Says:
    Today at 09: 43.10 (2 hours ago)

    “Let us ignore Ahmad once and for all. Shun him as a leper. Let us not add fuel to the fire he is trying to deliberately ignite.
    We have absolutely nothing to gain by dancing to his tune.
    I am also sure Malays, by and large, will not fall for his evil strategy to start a riot.”

    # localgrad Says:
    Today at 10: 22.00 (2 hours ago)

    “To PR, uncle Kit and other Chinese leader. Please stay cool and NOT drill into this because this maybe the evil plan of UNMNO to create another version of 513.

    What PR did by the release of official media statement on the issue was indeed very astute and correct! Please DO NOT act like a desperate MAD DOG like TK and KT as it will worsen the situation.
    STAY COOL MAN… no point take down one AHMAD then come more AHMAD clone.
    Just cant wait to see what will transpire post 16 sept”

    # gofortruth Says:
    Today at 10: 45.53 (1 hour ago)

    “This is a cunning racial cooked up ploy. Don’t be ensnared by this dirty trap! where is the home minister Syed Hamid who is responsible for peace in Malaysia?
    Chinese is not against the Malays & Muslims, in fact more than 70% of Chinese voted for a Malay& Muslim Anwar Ibrahim in the recent PP by election and more than 60% of Malays voted for Anwar. There is no race or religion issue here, the Rakyat are just not happy with BN, UMNO in particular and they want to give PR a chance.
    So Malaysians of all race & religions, do not be fooled by this ploy.
    Let the Malays from PR come out strongly to rebut this Abdul Ismail and condemn his poisonous racist remarks.”

    # anak_malaysia Says:
    Today at 11: 52.39 (35 minutes ago)

    “i would advise everyone to ignore this racist ahmad… i believed this is part of his strategies to stoke racial sentiment which leads to clashes and to declare Emergency… want to cause Emergency then DAP can’t rule anymore… so everyone dont fall into his trap of creating another may 13… let DAP do their job in Penang”

    COMMENT: To PR, LKS and other Chinese leaders. Please stay COOL and NOT drill into this because this maybe the evil plan of UNMO to create CHAOS! Let the BN components solve this internal affair of theirs.
    Moreover ,if a person is sincere, apology would have been made and there’s no point trying to force it now after two weeks!
    Let this be a test case for the executives and the judiciary, if they think there would have an appropriate legal case.

  81. #81 by Hishamuddin on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:18 pm

    YB Lim,
    All this fault lies with the MCA, Gerakan and teh rest of teh components parties in the BN.

    For 50 years they dare not say or lift their finger to tell their elder brother UMNO off making them feel so superiour and arrogant.

    Now they just say something, they are threaten by May 15 riot again. All this doing is breed by the past and present MCA and Gerakan. If they would have drae to voice out all teh while, this would not have happen. They would be keep to courtesy.

    It is just like a spoil child, can u teach him manners again whne he is 50 years old now ?

  82. #82 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:19 pm


    “If his not one of the culprits of corruption, our Nation, Malaysia wouldn’t be in this possition today”.

  83. #83 by drmaharajahrk on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:20 pm

    Ahmad Ismail wont have the balls to do this if he doesnt have the backing of AAB- Najib

  84. #84 by UzMiNoOnist on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:20 pm

    Where is the ISA now. It look like this draconian law is only for non-UMNOs.

  85. #85 by kenghuei on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:25 pm

    Ahmad Ismal words and his supporters’ actions really disappointed and angered me, and I’m sure all right thinking Malaysian Chinese would feel the same. Are these ppl trying to spark off another May 13 and put the country 51yrs of racial harmony in jeorpady?

    Dr Koh has taken a firm stand and daringly spoken out against Umno these few days on this issue..that is good albeit too late and that was why he was being rebuked and even ‘torn into pieces’ by these Umnoputras now. It clearly shows one thing, no BN component party shall go against Umno. Today Gerakan has almost no position in BN anymore, that is why these ppl are so daring. Perhaps, we shall very soon see Ong Ka Ting’s face being torn too..

    Pak Lah and Najib has clearly FAILED to settle this issue amicably.. His flip flop and lack of a clear stand aside, we can see that Pak Lah has failed to command the support of even his home state 13 Umno divisions when they defy him openly by saying Ahmad need not to apologise.. How can he control the entire nation when he cannot even handle the Umno divisions in 1 state? I am waiting to see what is the action will be taken by the PM against this brainless guy after today’s meeting with him… I bet he will not be sacked or charged with Sedition Act / ISA for sure… Perhaps just let off with a warning :)

  86. #86 by kanthanboy on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:25 pm

    Kasim Amat just came in.
    Just ignore him please. He doesn’t deserve any response for all the rubbish he wrote.

  87. #87 by ALLAN THAM on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:28 pm

    They are many simple minded Malay who are very easy to be influenced by this irresponsible provocation. All these while Malay have never being neglected. The only real problem was the implication of the NEP which has been totally failed to assist the masses, the Malay in particular and it has instead go to certain elite, well connected group, people like Ahamad and so fore. When these people are fell threaten by the losing of political power they refuse to admit their mistake and instead raise the issue of racial sentiment. In doing so they hope they can create another opportunity to gran back the power they have all this while enjoy. They also hope that they can continue to rob the nation wealth and keep to themselves with out any hard works and effort being put in.

    308 GE has clearly shown that no only one race has realised the fact but the Malay themselves also has realised that the NEPhas not helping the creation of wealth for the MAlay.

    I call upon all Malaysian, regardless of their race, religion let work together, let condemn this sort of race sentiment, let work together to prosper. But this will only can achieve with a strong leadership. And we all hope that let not ruined all the efforts by our forefathers who have fought with blood and sweat for independence just because by some one who is short sighted and of low class.

  88. #88 by drmaharajahrk on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:29 pm

    Nature’s Gentlemen at their BEST !

    Tunku Aziz needs to explain this

  89. #89 by scorpian6666 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:39 pm

    Dear Kassim

    You are wrong. Repent now before it is too late

    Read the following a million times

    Hero of All Malay = Allah

    Saver of the Malay = Anwar

    Betrayer of the Malay = Ahmad & his 13

    Get it

  90. #90 by kenghuei on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:42 pm

    Having said that, it will also be a challenge for Pakatan government to deal with Malay / non-Malay racial issues when it takes over.
    As “Hishamuddin” pointed out above, all these are results bred by MCA/Gerakan/MIC over the last 50 yrs..by their silence, kow-towing and inactions… So YB, pls help to ensure Pakatan balances this well. Though Anwar’s stand is clear so far..all Malaysians should be treated fairly and equally with Malay rights still being protected… But this could also sound contradicting : Scrapping NEP is being fair to all races, but does this mean then it will infringe Malay rights?

    As far as I know, the Constitution penned on 31st Aug 1957 is clear on the Malay rights and privileges in exchange for citizenship to Chinese and Indians..so what on earth is the relevance of talking abt pre-Independence and Chinese being “Pendatang” anymore?? Is Ahmad trying to remind us again that we WERE once immigrants..so we should still behave like an immigrant?! That is assuming, this was what he meant as he claimed now…

    Like many pointed out, Chinese and Indians have toiled on Malaysian soil for the past 51 yrs, contributing significantly to its nation-building..as much as the Malays do.. Today, we should be looking at a Malaysian agenda to further prosper and develop the country.. rather than looking backwards at Malay destiny, Chinese immigrants and pre-independence! I do appreciate Malay history and we should, but do we seriously think it is time for a change now? Or do we still want to stay comfortably inside our ‘tempurung’ or dinosaur’s cave lagging behind many developed nations around us?

    I pray that Pakatan will take over this government soon..whether it is Sept 16 or after.

    A Frustrated M’sian Chinese in S’pore.

  91. #91 by Hishamuddin on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:43 pm

    After 39 years, those arrogant UMNO still wants to talk on 513 ? Not small fries but big guns like Division head and state BN head.

    Just imagine, what kind of an animals we have bred these 50 years ? Whose fault is it ?

    U do not need to send those MP for agriculture workshop in Taiwan, instead you should send them for kindergarden lesson on racial harmony.

    What fools we have after 50 years of independence.

  92. #92 by oknyua on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:48 pm

    Kasim Amat… well you finally wake up after missing for a week. Did your husband stop you from posting?

    I like your comment on Ahmad Ismail. Well, what about if a Kadazan says the same thing? “Get lost you Melayu, this is Tanah Sabah, untuk orang sabah, bukan UMNO”? What would happen if a Dayak says, “Get lost you Melayu, we are headhunters.”?

    Kasim, if that is your mentality, it shows how shallow your thinking is. This world is big enough for both of us, but too small to accommodate our greed. Unfortunately, it is such ultra thinking and racist UMNO man that would get far in UMNO. So, Kasim, your political future is very bright.

  93. #93 by ShiokGuy on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:55 pm

  94. #94 by scorpian6666 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 2:11 pm

    The way I see it …. there is no racial clash here… just Ahmad who happened to be a Malay that got cornered.
    I would hope all see it this way ….. no racial clash …. just a timid boy hiding behind “MAMA” pretending to be SuperMan caught with his pant’s down.

  95. #95 by badak on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 2:25 pm

    Zak will a pure Malay stand up and be counted.Most MALAYS if not all have foriegn blood running in their veins.Malays are descendents of ARABS, BUGIS,JAVANESS, PORTUGUES CHINESS and many more.
    So by right as the UMNO BIGOT said ”MALAYS are also PENDATANG.”
    What is surprising in MALAYSIA is “” AS LONG AS ONE OF YOUR PARENT IS A MALAY AND A MUSLIM YOU ARE REGARDED AS A MALAY” Even if the other parent is a Chiness, Indian,Eurasian or even a Martian.
    A friend of mine took a Malay girl as his second wife.His children from his second wife are all regarded as MALAYS.Where by his children from his first wife are still Chiness.So Zak what are shouting about.

  96. #96 by jjireh99 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 2:27 pm

    can I ask the pm now “Is the king happy with UMNO right now?????”

    I don’t agree YB LKS should extend his hands to pm to help him solve this problem. No! no! no! Like AhPek said, no point and no use. UNLESS, pm is ready to rid all his family/cronies greed for MONEY!!!! Let’s ask ourselves, do you all actually think that all politicians especially pm/dpm really, really, really, really, REALLY care for the rakyat? All these giving out handouts and aid to orphanages and whatnot shown in the media are just propaganda. Why only do it during ramadhan? One last caution, it will be really suicide to bring back TDM and cronies!!!!! Don’t ever let that happen, for goodness sake!!!! I got a feeling also that he (tdm) is behind this fella, giving or instigating him to go against pm (as if I care) but who doesn’t want peace and harmony in this land??? So, please, REJECT AT ALL COST OF BRINGING BACK TDM INTO THE FOLD, INTO THIS GOVERNMENT IF DSAI CANNOT SUCCEED THIS 916!

  97. #97 by localgrad on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 2:58 pm

    yo! since when Chinese has become the JEWS. hm… this is as ‘good’ as the squatter comment.

    Who’s controlling GLC, Banks (except Public bank) and plantation companies?

    FAT AHMAD and supporters, first they blamed the reporter, then the newspaper, then Koh TK, then GERAKAN, then Chinese….
    KALAH means KALAH la, you AHMAD LOSER. blame this blame tat also cant hide your inept and FAT.

    THEN??? he will blame PM aka Dollah

    nvm, one day he will need to answer tho his God.

  98. #98 by homeblogger on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 3:17 pm

    “A visibly upset Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said he would seek an explanation as to why things got unruly in Penang yesterday.

    He was referring to the press conference at Menara Umno in George Town where Ahmad’s supporters tore up a poster of former Penang chief minister …

    why, why, why, I feel like telling him he’s been a naughty, naughty boy… oooh… he makes me sooo mad I feel like telling my mommy what he’s done….”

  99. #99 by gofortruth on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 3:31 pm

    It is fast becoming apparent now that Ahmad Ismail is just a “special man on misssion” to pave the way for TDM to return to UMNO’s fold. As I have said the whole house of UMNO is crumbling and now the ceilings and roof tiles are falling on the heads of Gerakan & MCA.
    I thought they were going to bury Anwar Ibrahim in PP!

  100. #100 by swipenter on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 3:38 pm

    The long term solution is to CRIMINALISE RACISM
    in the country by the govt whether it is BN or PR. Tell everybody that racism is not condoned or accepatble behaviour just like stealing, robbing,cheating, etc Make it a criminal offence and stop classifying as it “sensitive issue”. Once racism is criminalised, if you commit an act of racism and if found guilty you served out the punishment as meted by the court. Then and only then acts of racism verbal or otherwise will be minimised effectively

  101. #101 by wanderer on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 3:42 pm

    Ahmad Ismail is definitely not a Malay hero, he is simply an UMNO opportunist. The plain fact is, he has lost his fertile ground to harvest his ill gotten wealth, knowing it will be sometime, before BN can make a come back in Penang…at least, pass his political life. The only option he has, is to play the race card, to create chaos and fear in the country. The motive is bring an emergency rule.

  102. #102 by Malaysian Always on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 3:48 pm

    YB Lim,

    I agree with jjireh99 that PR and the rest should just sit this out and let BN settle amongst themselves. There is no need for any reaction to ahmad’s comments. We know that this is a trap and they are just trying to bait us, hoping that something will happen and give them an excuse to declare a state of emergency.

    Please don’t fall into their political trap! Even worst is bringing back TDM. That man has ways of silencing and bringing down people that badawi doesn’t have. At least badawi is easier to deal with, as he is not as ruthless and cunning as TDM.

    Why do you think ahmad ismail is so bold? He definitely has backing from someone very high up! Most probably TDM! UMNO politicians are cowards and they won’t dare to do something like this unless they have very strong backing.

    The way therefore to counter something like this is to just ignore him and let this episode die down into non-relevance, deep into the abyss of oblivion, so that they will never be able to use this as an excuse to declare a state of emergency.

  103. #103 by Yee Siew Wah on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 3:54 pm

    Why are the police dilly dally in arresting this racialistic idiot?? They are so efficient when arresting RPK, DSAI, Hindraf and innocent rakyat all this while. This clearly shows that they are either under Umnoputras control or b_ms of the same kind. What fairness, laws and justice we have left in Malaysia?? The whole world is watching and laughing at us. Malaysia boleh.

  104. #104 by zak_hammaad on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 3:56 pm

    swipenter, criminalising racism is an interesting thought. It would be very difficult to prosecute if such laws were brought in because of the intricate folly of identifying race with religion. What one may see as racism, others would see as an attack on their religion.

    “Sensitive issues” as I understand it are subjects that have the potential to derail stability in any given location in a country. To one extent or another there are ‘sensitive’ issues in almost all countries. To what extent they are guarded depends. In the UK, it is a crime to “glorify terrorism”. As you can see it is a very vague and ill-defined concept. They’ve had cases which were thrown out and cases that stuck based on intent. I view this issue similarly where the intent to instigate muct be proven in the court of law.

    Good day.

  105. #105 by ktteokt on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:00 pm

    Let us prepare “Last Supper” for Ahmad and his 13!

  106. #106 by yapchee on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:00 pm

    AI is only a pawn on a chess board. the truth is that they is someone behind mastering the move ? Just sparked off another 513 crisis that all it needs to declare an emergency rule. remember what happens after 513 in 1969, how the country was governed ?

    BN is clutching on the every if not last straw to survive, the very truth is that they (BN) will never hand over power to anyone. no one will gain from this racial discrimination.

    AI, AAB, Najis, etc why they are behaving as such is simple to analyze – they are obsessed by money, power and ego. Only God will knows what will hapen next.

  107. #107 by Yee Siew Wah on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:03 pm

    Oh…, our great Kasim Amat is back. A classic replica or by-product of the “pendatang” idiot. Perhaps this great “Kissing Amat” may also look alike this stupid idiot.
    Anyway, do not want to waste my time and energy replying his/her racialistic comments la. FULLSTOP.

  108. #108 by Godfather on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:05 pm

    Eh, Kasim Amat, my bisnes partner, where have you been all this time ? You were supposed to discuss with Badawi on our new bisnes venture. “One for you, one for me” is our motto. That’s more important that this Ahmad Ismail nonsense.

  109. #109 by Godfather on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:07 pm

    Pak Bodoh says he is deeply “disappointed” with Ahmad Ismail. What he is really saying is “let me sleep for a little while longer, and the problem may just go away”.

  110. #110 by drmaharajahrk on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:11 pm

    Jeanne is gonna get it tonight

  111. #111 by lakshy on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:14 pm

    Actually could he be doing what he has been told to do? He is the head of umno Penang. Which menas that with Gerakan out of the way, he could be the Chief Minister of Penang if bn won in Penang. Thats a great big carrot to dangle in front of him!

    Think about it. Could there be an ulterior motive here? Gerakan has only 2 MP’s and it would not be a great loss to bn if they left bn. It’s not enough to shake bn’s regime. bn still has the Chinese through the MCA.

    The best thing for Gerakan, MCA, PPP, etc to do now would be to withdraw support for bn, and support the rakyat. The rakyat are sick of bn. Staying with bn would spell the end of all these parties anyway. So if they know what the rakyat wants, these parties should opt out of the bn.

  112. #112 by change 4 Msia on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:15 pm

    It seem that this Ahmad guy with some backups is pulling us into the trap so that at the end of the day it is justify to create another 513 equivalent incident. This will give raise to the opportunity for them (segelintir UMNO & kroni) to further strngthen their position. Then they can continue to do whatever they like. beware!!! Leave this to our politicians (PR) to handle this issue rationally.

  113. #113 by js on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:38 pm


    Please get the admin to block this KASSIM AHMAD, he is not welcome here.Thks.

  114. #114 by akarmalaysian on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:41 pm

    its so obvious this ahmad is trying to create trouble with all his stupidity and his “sandiwara” as he wud like to put it onto others.with his uneducated and arrogant behavior….who do u think is really behind all these?this is one of those guys fr umno which hv grown too big headed till he thinks no one can do anything to him.these are one of the people who thinks they are above the law cause they are special privilleged “malays”?
    or maybe he is being “paid” to stage up this drama?the thing is i dun buy all these bull taik.this is politics….and we knw how dirty these umno politicians are.lets face the facts…wat do we all get fr making these type of stupid remarks?any malaysians who really call themselves malaysians will not be fooled by the likes of this idiotic ahmad.yes…we do hv people like ahmad in this society.hes just a waste of taxpayers money.and dats the kind of people we dun need to lead the people in this country cause hes the type who will nvr knw wat unity is all abt for the people regardless of race.

  115. #115 by shocked on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:55 pm

    We can all sit here and question “Why”..”Why”…& “Why”….but at the end of the day there is only 1 reason…the BN govt is practising racial discrimination of the highest level.

    If a chinese or an Indian were to call the Malays a barbarian…I bet my yellow chinese ass…that this person will be detained under ISA for causing racial unrest under the constitution.

    But if a Malay outright calls a chinese “squatters” and if oneday calls an Indian an “estateboy”….well…the PM of malaysia will say “he is not racist”, “he don’t mean it”…blah blah blah…

    Right now…I feel like I’m the unwanted step child contributing to the luxury that the UMNO/BN govt is enjoying…

  116. #116 by Richardqed on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:57 pm

    “The act from the Bukit Bendera Umno division chief is a brave one and it represents a new generation of Malay leaders who do not fear anything.” — kasim amat

    Thanks for the joke. They are always entertaining.

    Ahmad Ismail represents only Umnoputras like kasim amat, who are slowly losing their ill-gotten gains, and therefore needs something to bark at (and pictures to tear too). It’s no coincidence then that Kasim has reappeared. Seeing that Ahmad Ismail is barking non-stop, kasim too wants to bark in sync.

  117. #117 by StevePCH on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:59 pm

    Ahmad is doing a good job for PR. Stop criticising him.
    The loose cannon will set off a few RPGs and whoof …. BeEnd Penang, gone …. haha.
    We should all thank AI for aiding Rakyat to understand the arrogance of BeEnd and their abuse of power in implementing ISA.
    Public acclaimed racist !!!
    Gerakan, it seems like you really have to get out of BeEnd.
    MCA and MIC … you are next. these racist mentality will cost you support from Rakyat.
    The tipping scale is truly showing with weak PL and Jib.
    Sayonara …. BeEnd

  118. #118 by StevePCH on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:04 pm

    and why we are not hearing anything from MIC ? aren’t Indians alleged “immigrants” like Chinese ?
    Malays and non-Malays sow the land, mined minerals, trade and worked harmoniusly to build what is known as Malaysia. These racial “immigrants” talk is just disgusting.

  119. #119 by zheng on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:23 pm

    What a poor government, poor PM and Poor BN leadership in Malaysia??? Now, China is able to send their satelite and astronaut to space like “drinking water” and countries around the wolrd are growing stronger.However, our PM and BN leaders are still not capable to settle one “kurang Ajar” Extremist Ahmad Ismail. So what’s the hope of future Malaysia if the existing BN leaders is still in control of federal government??? The “Kurang Ajar” extremist Ahmad Ismail is still safe and fierce….WHY??? And still have the power point finger to Gerakan and Sin Chew Reporter. WHY??? I hope the Anjing Ismail should be arrested to jail soonest possible. Otherwise, the harmony of Malaysia will jeapordise soon.

  120. #120 by milduser on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:33 pm

    Besides the junket of the BNBBC, Bodowi (or should I call him Pandaiwi) decided to sent the Agung away, as reported by MT:

    “So now they are also planning to send the Agong to Saudi Arabia to perform his Umrah. With the Agong out of the way, Anwar will not be able to present these letters to His Majesty”.

    Can anyone verify this?

  121. #121 by zheng on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:38 pm

    To Kasim Amat.
    I think ur mind is just at “Big Foot” level. So u r not welcome here. The YB LKS’s blog is for human being. Not for Big Foot. So u better leave ur comments at “big foot’ web blog.

  122. #122 by swipenter on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:39 pm


    Every journey no matter how ardous begins with us taking the first step. Just imagine that racism is criminalised. How many individuals, organisations both private and public including govt institutions would dare run the risk of being accused and charged in a court of law for practising racism Let the court of law decides whether there is intent or not.

    Race and religion, we hope we are matured enough to separate the two.

  123. #123 by jeremiah on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:45 pm

    The Christian response to the person making provocations and hurling insults is to love and bless him. This works all the time: look at how Gandhi resisted the British and how Mandela demolised Apartheid. We have already gained a moral victory by not being provoked into anger but praying for those who wish to be our enemies.

    Do the exact opposite of what the Devil wants, which is t onurture anger, leading to bitterness which leads to hate which leads to conflict. Deal with the root of this man’s words which is clearly motivated politically for a showdown. Let the law and the PM handle him. But all citizens should forgive him and show kindness to him. At the same time, ask him to explain what he wants to do with his beliefs and charge him if he breaks the law.

    Rights of citizenship is never a zero sum game. It is a win-win situation. The only zero sum game in town is splitting the oil money and tax revenues between various vested interests.

  124. #124 by pangwl88 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:55 pm

    To Ahmad the ALMIGHTY:

    Look outside the window, you see the BIG BLUE SKY?


    Opps.. so sorry… forgot you live in well ….

  125. #125 by pangwl88 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 6:03 pm

    TO my dear Malay Malaysians, my dear Indian Malaysians, my dear Chinese Malaysians, my Dear Malaysians:

    I love your culture, your food, your music, your language, your dances, your clothing, your religion, your tolerance for other cultures, etc etc etc etc…..

    This is what made us special. This is what made us multi-cultural.

    This is what made us stands out as a country on this Planet.

    Treasure it, for we have come too far to end it now.

    PS: This is why we have so many Holidays too!!! : )

  126. #126 by jmtstan on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 6:13 pm

    this Ahmad Ismail is too much, The PM ask not to raise anymore racism issue, but then he goes say things like this again… he start the fire and we rakyat get blame

  127. #127 by landsay on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 6:26 pm

    folk, let be fair in judging this issue. datuk ahmad says the sin chew reporter quoted him out of context but nobody believes him. everyone seems to believe the newspaper but are we sure the reporter is right? we are not there during the ceramah but why did we choose to believe the reporter and not the umno guy. dont practice double standards lah, we have to be fair, the police are investigating, so let’s wait for the outcome.
    bear in mind it is not easy to write a report based on someone’s speech, unless you quote him verbatim and write the whole speech, you face the danger of quoting out context. if you do not believe me, ask any reporter about this.
    but i suppose after what has been reported, nobody will accept anything but the police finding ahmad guilty as charged. this is the danger of a trial in the media, once someone is condemned, he is doomed no matter whether he is right or wrong. sigh….

  128. #128 by taiking on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 6:27 pm

    Ahmad Ismail saga.

    Oh yes Godfather. I can smell business opportunity. Tell kassin, your business partner.

    Print posters (of all sizes) of mca and gerakan fellas for destruction by anyone who feel like doing so:

    1) in public before the media;

    2) on stage before an audience;

    3) at home in private;

    4) in the toilet before his willy; or

    5) anywhere else.

    You may want to print them in large numbers for public destruction. Just in case the guests of the destroyer too would like to participate in the destruction. Now those guys may prefer smaller prints. So make sure you have all the right sizes.

    Also, for a good kick, print the posters on scented papers will you. You can charge more for these. Besides, the scent will make the destroyer go wild and lose their head. Oh yes, anyway of infusing some ecstacy into the paper so that when burned, the smoke will carry some of that stuff in the air. Wow. The thought of this is enough to make me high and cum.

    Speaking of kick, print some on papers that can be rolled easily into tight little balls. You never know. Some people may prefer kicking to tearing.

    I think you know what I mean. Use your own creativity to produce more variety.

    My commission, 5% of your gross sales value. OK?

  129. #129 by k1980 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 7:28 pm

    Why not print T-shirts with Ahmad Ismail’s monkey face on both sides… The front reads “Hit me, I’m Ahmad Ismail” and the back reads “Kick me, I’m Ahmad Ismail”. But then, no one will buy your T-shirts for fear of being bashed up

  130. #130 by katdog on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 7:44 pm

    Forget this Ahmad Ismail fellar. Let him continue to remain in UMNO to show what UMNO really believes in.

    Leave him alone. Just wait for his election ceramah’s next time round and record what he says and post it on youtube.

  131. #131 by pulau_sibu on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 8:33 pm

    I can guarantee you, the torn apart Tsu Koon’s photo will be the free advertisement during election campaign. Thanks umno for providing the free posters

  132. #132 by akarmalaysian on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:06 pm

    look at the way this ahmad has been fanning his remarks.wat does he mean by the malay and muslims hv their own limit and we will be forced to push the chinese for our own survival.wat kinda statement is dat?
    “The Chinese should not try to be like the Jews in America — it is not enough they control the economy, now they want political control,” he said.
    who is he trying to kid?….who has been robbing its people for the past fifty years?be it chinese,indians and malays….dun act stupid ahmad ismail.ur just a sore loser if u knw wat we mean.dun make use of others to make ur personal gains.ur just a desperate idiot whos trying to get every attention to be in the spot light for umno.
    it seems dat this idiot wont stop giving stupid remarks.he’s enjoying the lime light thinking he has the backing of his “supporters”.he is going to make matter worse.in time to come we can see this idiot fall flat.hes not fighting for the malays but rather for his own pocket.i wud resent and scorn at any leaders for fanning up and insulting racial topics even if that leader is fr my own race.and for u ahmad taik ismail…ur days are numbered just like umno.

  133. #133 by akarmalaysian on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:06 pm

    ps:btw….is this ahmad taik ismail a real malay or a mamak?

  134. #134 by melurian on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:40 pm

    i sokong ahmad ismail …. he stood what he believes is right, he spoke out his mind and he has that right……

    in fact, ahmad ismail should become PM of malaysia since that aab is so tak guna…..

  135. #135 by lopez on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:57 pm

    What do you expect….a product of 50 years of arrogance and denial

    and the irony is that they is silence from the botak whose duty is for the n a t i o n .

    And now some others in uniform wants to take his job.

    So who is calling the shots now

  136. #136 by tourman53 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:46 pm

    If ahmad ismail can be the PM than you can be the DPM.

  137. #137 by Loh on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:50 pm

    If Ahmad Ismail is nowbody like Kasim Amat, he can go around inciting racial hatred, and nobody would care. But he is a Division Chief of UMNO who was supposed to influence policy within UMNO. Najib apologized for Ahmad Ismail not because Najib felt it his responsibility as a Malay to apologize for the statement of another. He would have to make an apology for what Kasim Amat has just written in this blog, if that was his understanding. Najib apologized for the failure of UMNO in reining in their senior party member who has openly voiced opinion at variance with party policy. With the criticism of TDM against Najib for the apology, Ahmad Ismail has chosen to side with TDM, an outsider, against UMNO Chief and deputy. Now UMNO is facing a rebel who draws attention publicly. The solution is for UMNO to sack Ahmad Ismail.

    AAB might have known the solution but has been waiting for Ahmad to do a TDM to resign from UMNO. That would not happen because it is rumoured that TDM is rejoining UMNO again. That news add to AAB’s problem. AAB would be seen to be bullying a lesser being in UMNO if he chose to sack Ahmad at the time when he had no choice but to welcome TDM.

    AAB should now learn the lesson that some problems can be solved by time alone, others might become more complicated as time goes by. That is especially so when the opportunitst of all time is waiting to do him in.

  138. #138 by ZhouYu on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:19 pm

  139. #139 by 9to5 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:20 pm

    Be careful folks, there are more than meet the eye!

    Although stern action could be taken on Ahmad Ismail at the moment but the real action, more deadly and more devastating, will actually be targeted on Raja Petra and those people who are responsible for UMNO’s slipping grip on power in Malaysia.

    Don’t you sense that the bravery shown by Ahmad Ismail in playing up the racial sentiments of malays, going head to head with Gerakan while ignoring the president and vice-president is very fishy?

    By sacrificing Ahmad Ismail, they will turn around and say that in order to be fair and show that they don’t practise double standard, all people who are considered as threat to harmony and race relation in Malaysia will be rounded up and detained under ISA. In doing so, NGOs, foreigners and oppositions in Malaysia cannot now argue that only action is taken on Ahmad Ismail for disturbing racial harmony but the others like Raja Petra, Bloggers and opposition parties be spared from action.

    They would sacrifice only one low level UMNO politician, albeit Ahmad Ismail, but they are able to put the big fishes like Raja Petra, LKS, LGE or Anwar behind bars which would slow down or stop completely their march to Putrajaya!

    At the moment, the malays are very worked up and angry; they want equal action treatment and heads to roll – UMNO’s opposers’ heads!

    In killing two birds with one stone, MCA, Gerakan and MIC will fall all over themselves in praising UMNO for practising fairness and justice to the non-malays. They will be duped into staying in BN for the time being and foiling the implosion of UMNO.

    So watch the wayang kulit carefully. UMNO is likely to take stern action on Ahmad Ismail tomorrow! But very soon, they will go after the real target with greater zeal!

    Watch out!

  140. #140 by HJ Angus on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:22 pm

    The problem in UMNO can be compared to an army.

    Suppose you were the general and had a choice – would you prefer 500 men who are willing to follow you to the end of the world or 1000 men of which 200 to 300 are only waiting to sabotage your plans.

  141. #141 by katdog on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:38 pm

    Ahmad Ismail just trying to stir up racial sentiments. Remember how the Penang UMNO people held the ‘rally’ accusing of LGE of trying to remove malay special rights?

    Same thing here. First they tried to provoke the Malays. Now they just taking opportunity to provoke the Chinese and trying to paint themselves as ‘victims’ against Chinese oppression.

  142. #142 by The Enforcer on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:30 am

    Let’s give this a thought.
    That racist GOON is known to be close to the old wizard.
    Could he be a paid ‘actor’ while someone is directing from behind so as to make a ‘comeback’?
    Let’s wait for the show to begin!

  143. #143 by lovemalaysia on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:39 am

    Ahmad Ismail will not go further in political career with his kind of mindset. Let’s see what are the stern actions could be taken.

    And his arrogant shows he may be backed up by something, maybe hidden agenda, such as comments from blogger “9 to 5”.

    He has been very “aggressive” in front of media last few days, and his statements seems more insulting day after days.

    Kita semua anak Malaysia berharap, isu ni dapat diselesaikan secara aman dan secepat mungkin, tidak berbaloi jikalau ekonomi negara terbantut sebab seorang yang tidak ada wisdom, EQ dan IQ.

    Majulah Malaysia!

  144. #144 by flyer168 on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:24 am

    Dear YB LKS,

    The “Dreaded” time & language has finally arrived – yes, the “Critical, Dangerous & Ugly” Political situation developing in this great nation, precipated by the “Evil & Desperate” Powers-that-be, provoking & inciting “Racial & Religious” divide amongst the downtrodden “Anak Bangsa Malaysia”.

    Just give them more rope to “Hang” themselves at every turn towards their “Demise” soon.

    “Devine Intervention” works wonders & with the “Anarchy” developing within their ranks of “Wannabe Young UMNOputra Heroes” aka “Pendatangs” also, they have their own “Enemies” from within !

    PM & DPM have lost the “Plot” altogether & this “UMNO Anarchy” will be the “Mother of the BN Self-Desruct” mechanism in full action.

    We have to be virgilant, stay UNITED, stay calm, have Faith in God Almighty for His Blessings, Protection & Guidance so that we will not fall into the BN “Chaos Trap”.

  145. #145 by trublumsian on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 11:50 am

    fat ahmad will be bought by aab, much like mb of terengganu. either promises of deals n kickbacks, or promises of higher office if fatty is willing to stand down a little. fact is aab’s power base is eroding, he should expect more fat ahmads come knocking. aab is between a rock n a few hard places. anwar’s breathing down his neck, mca n gerakan r showing a modicum of spine, n fatty is mobilizing his likeness malays by playing up racial sentiments. aab better watch his back, folks like najis n maybe even tdm r circling.

    and melurian/kiss-my-asss amat,

    you’re so stupid, your brain would rattle around in a flea’s navel.

    you’re so stupid, your data bus stops for red lights.

    you’re so stupid, your face is on a coin… on the edge.

    you’re so stupid, your head whistles in a cross wind.

    you’re so stupid, you returned a donut because it had a hole in it.

    you’re so stupid, you phoned me to get my number.

    you’re so stupid, you sold your car for gas money.

    you’re so stupid, you you think ‘harass’ is some other two words.

    you’re so stupid, your mother told you to go buy a color tv you asked, “what color?”

    you’re so stupid, your brains were sold separately and they were out of stock!!

  146. #146 by trublumsian on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 11:53 am


    “Why” “The” “Ten” “Thousand” “Quotation” “Marks”???

  147. #147 by de_Enigma on Friday, 12 September 2008 - 5:37 pm

    Why do we only see those morons in UMNO?
    Could it be due to following?
    1. When you don’t filter morons when they try to join your party, there can only be more and more morons around.
    2. When you don’t punish morons, that will lead to more normal people acting like a moron.
    3. Leader who is supposed to control the party is sleeping. So morons get to fool around.

    It must be hard to wake up sleeping after a long time to realize the fact that there are too many morons around. There is a saying – if you can’t beat them, join them.
    However, we don’t need morons to run the country.

    We hope to see PR clean up the mess in putrajaya soonest possible.

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