Pakatan Rakyat leadership council condemns racism of Ahmad Ismail and Penang Umno leaders


Kenyataan Akhbar
MAJLIS PIMPINAN PAKATAN RAKYAT

8 September 2008

Pakatan Rakyat Menjunjung Prinsip Perlembagaan Persekutuan

Majlis Pimpinan Pakatan Rakyat yang bersidang pada hari ini 8 September 2008 dengan ini menegaskan penolakan kami terhadap usaha-usaha menyemarakkan politik perkauman yang sedang dilakukan oleh UMNO akhir-akhir ini. Kami amat bimbang isu ini sekarang digunakan untuk mengelabui pandangan rakyat yang sebenarnya merupakan usaha terdesak untuk menyelamatkan kepentingan segelintir golongan elit politik dan kroni mereka.

Kami sekali lagi mengulangi pendirian menjunjung prinsip-prinsip dasar yang termaktub di bawah Perlembagaan Persekutuan. Ini termasuk soal-soal dasar seperti kedudukan Islam sebagai Agama Persekutuan dan menjamin kebebasan mengamalkan agama-agama lain, kedaulatan Bahasa Melayu sebagai Bahasa Kebangsaan dan mempertahankan hak bahasa ibunda, kedudukan dan kedaulatan Institusi Raja-Raja Melayu serta kedudukan hak-hak istimewa orang Melayu dan Bumiputera serta hak-hak semua kaum yang telah dijamin oleh Perlembagaan.

Berdasarkan prinsip-prinsip Perlembagaan ini kami menolak sekeras-kerasnya pendekatan politik perkauman sempit yang menjadi dasar UMNO-BN. Pendekatan inilah yang sengaja digunakan untuk memecahbelahkan perpaduan dan keharmonian masyarakat majmuk negara ini.

Sehubungan ini kami membantah ucapan yang dibuat oleh Dato Ahmad Ismail yang disokong oleh semua pemimpin UMNO Pulau Pinang. Isi ucapan itu mencerminkan dasar perkauman UMNO yang sebenarnya bertujuan hanya untuk mempertahankan kepentingan segelintir golongan orang kaya Melayu serta suku sakat mereka yang menggunakan kuasa politik untuk mengambil kesempatan mengaut kekayaan negara dengan berselindung di sebalik membela kepentingan Bumiputera dan orang Melayu.

YB Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim
Ketua Umum
PKR

YB Dato’ Husam Musa
Naib Presiden
PAS

YB Lim Kit Siang
Ketua Ahli Parlimen
DAP

  1. #1 by kerajaan.rakyat on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:30 pm

    Semoga Pakatan terikat kukuh
    Bina persahabatan tanpa angkuh
    Berjuang. Berusaha. Bersungguh
    Ayuh mara jangan bertangguh.

    08 hari lagi – 16 Sept.
    HIDUP RAKYAT… HIDUP RAKYAT.. HIDUP RAKYAT

    http://www.kerajaanrakyat.com/

  2. #2 by ahkok1982 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:30 pm

    firstly, ask him who pays the most taxes… and where does his salary come from…

    heck, he is even worse than a “pendatang” as he needs the support of such “pendatang”.

  3. #3 by aje on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:31 pm

    Kita sebagai warga Malaysia patut menolak politik perkauman dari semua pihak samada dari pihak PR atau BN.Saya berharap selepas ini kita semua menumpukan kepada pembabgunan negara dan kurangkan politik.Majulah Malaysia!

  4. #4 by dawsheng on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:39 pm

    “Sehubungan ini kami membantah ucapan yang dibuat oleh Dato Ahmad Ismail yang disokong oleh semua pemimpin UMNO Pulau Pinang. Isi ucapan itu mencerminkan dasar perkauman UMNO yang sebenarnya bertujuan hanya untuk mempertahankan kepentingan segelintir golongan orang kaya Melayu serta suku sakat mereka yang menggunakan kuasa politik untuk mengambil kesempatan mengaut kekayaan negara dengan berselindung di sebalik membela kepentingan Bumiputera dan orang Melayu.”

    UMNO main belakang orang Melayu lo.

  5. #5 by Compass on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:46 pm

    Well said. This is the truth from the heart and mind of the Malaysian public. Keep up the good works. My sincere thanks to Pakatan Rakyat for the foresight to look thru the color of our skin straight to our hearts.

  6. #6 by limkamput on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:52 pm

    Saya tidak faham. Mengapa PAS selalunya diwakili oleh Naib Presiden dan DAP diwakili oleh Sdr Lim? Mana Presiden PAS dan Setiausaha Agong DAP?

  7. #7 by max2811 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 3:02 pm

    I support the motion and statement by PR. I strongly condemn the racist and corrupted Ahmad Ismail and his party UMNO.

  8. #8 by Malaysian Always on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 3:07 pm

    Alangkah sedihnya pada masa kini, masih terdapat warganegara dan ahli politik Malaysia yang menggunakan dasar perkauman untuk mendapatkan sokongan rakyat. Harapan saya, sebagai seorang “pendatang” yang dilahirkan dan dibesarkan di Malaysia, dan yang tidak mempunyai mana-mana rumah lain melainkan Malaysia, adalah supaya rakyat-rakyat Malaysia menyedari bahawa manusia seperti Ahmad Ismail ni hanya ingin menggunakan sentimen-sentimen perkauman ini untuk menimbulkan perasaan marah dan benci di hati manusia supaya dia sendiri dapat mengekalkan kedudukan dan kekayaannya yang didapati melalui cara-cara yag dosa dan haram. Saya berharap rakyat-rakyat Malaysia dapat melihati bahawa hanya melalui integrasi secara harmoni sebenar antara semua kaum-kaum berlainan dan meritokrasi, barulah negara kita dan semua rakyat-rakyat Malaysia dapat membangun dan memara ke hadapan terhadap generasi baru Malaysia yang maju, kaya dan bebas daripada politik kewangan dan kerajaan yang tidak efektif! Hidup Malaysia!

  9. #9 by ctc537 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 3:21 pm

    This AI controversy presented the BN especially UMNO leaders with the golden opportunity to show people of all races that they are fair, mature and would come down hard on those who purposely create racial controversy. The chance to gain the support and respect of people of all races was simply wasted.
    I salute the PR for their determination to protect and defend the special rights of the Malays as well as the rights of the minority races as enshrined in the Federal Constitution.

  10. #10 by just a moment on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 3:25 pm

    Kindly read this
    “Politically blind and tone deaf?”
    My forefathers came to Malacca in 1771. Even in August 1957, my family had been living in Malacca for 186 years. How many other Malaysians can claim this long period of residence?

    http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=25455

  11. #11 by Laoshan on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 4:01 pm

    When Gerakan and MCA insist openly that this Ahmad Ismail must apologise personally, these selfish UMNO leaders from Penang would most likely try to turn it into a racial issue of Chinese against Malays for their own hidden agenda.

    This Press Statement come in very timely to expose them. Congratulation to Pakatan Rakyat that you have shown again to the Rakyat that you stand for all the anak Bangsa Malaysia with one voice.

  12. #12 by ahluck on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 4:14 pm

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  13. #13 by boh-liao on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 4:32 pm

    Nay, nay, nay!

    Ahmad Ismail loves all Malaysians deeply and that’s why he did not say sorry.

    “Love means never having to say you’re sorry!” (Love Story)

    And MCA, Gerakan, though making a bit of noise here and there, continue to tag along with Umnoputras. Kena slapped on the left cheek, now offering the right cheek to be slapped or cium.

  14. #14 by budak on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 4:37 pm

    what can the RAKYAT expect from a racist “approval” PM…

    beside changing the Govt., do WE have other options…???

  15. #15 by teacher on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 4:52 pm

    This man Ahmad Ismail has no principles. He now tries to hide by blaming the reporter and saying the reporter should be shot. I suggest the reporter should lodge a report against him for intimidation.
    My grandfather migrated from his homeland and arrived in this country in 1880. Imagine Me still being called a pendatang. I wonder when did AI forefathers land here. Looking at Selangor we have a former MB whose father arrived from Indonesia not too long and he is called a bumi. This really sucks esp since my children and grandchildren are all born here. That means we have been here for 5 generations and still are lame ducks.

  16. #16 by change 4 Msia on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 4:54 pm

    This the one of the products created by BN (dominated by UMNO) for the past 51 years.
    A small group of greedy people stir up racial sentiment when their so call “right” is jeopradised.
    What is “Rakyat” in their mind is only a tool for them to make political gain and ultimately monetory gain.
    Hope that with PR in line, this will become a priority to establish a policy to curb racial & money politics. Only then we will start to see light at the end of the tunnel.

  17. #17 by zak_hammaad on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 5:00 pm

    Ahmad Ismail says that he has nothing to apologise for as he only stated a fact of history that “Chinese are immigrants”. BUT, does being an “immigrant” who is a CITIZEN does deserve equal rights as all citizens of Malaysia?

    I think Ahmad has nailed the UMNO coffin firmly shut.

  18. #18 by badak on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 5:02 pm

    AHMAD IS CONSISTANT NOT LIKE PAK LAH WHO KEEP ON CHANGING HIS TUNE.WHAT WILL THE OTHER COMPONENT PARTIES IN BN DOING ABOUT THIS REMARK.

  19. #19 by Boneka on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 5:12 pm

    Our PM said that the deragotory remarks of Ahmad Ismail was his (AI’s) personal view and not that of UMNO. What about all the Divisional leaders who surrounded him and supported him when he gave his press conference. Were they too very expressing personal views or that of UMNO Pulau Pinang.
    This incidence clearly shows the “lame-duck” authority our PM has. These Divisional leaders are too powerful and there is nothing PM or his Deputy can do anything about it.
    I am saddened that our beloved country is going down the drain. I hope September 16th (or anytime after that) can clip the feathers of these warlords.
    God Bless Malaysia

  20. #20 by dawsheng on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 5:54 pm

    Betulkah UMNO jaga maruah orang Melayu atau sebaliknya?

    GEORGE TOWN (Sept 2, 2008): The Penang Development Corporation is lodging police and Anti-Corruption Agency reports against a now-defunct company, of which Umno Bukit Bendera division head Datuk Ahmad Ismail was a director, over its failure to return some RM500,000 to the state after a failed land deal.

    Chief minister Lim Guan Eng said he has directed the PDC to make the reports tomorrow (Sept 3) after his administration found that Popular Profile Sdn Bhd (PPSB) had wrongfully taken and kept the money from the state in 1998. PPSB wound up in 2005.

    Ahmad is currently at the centre of a storm over the alleged racist remarks he made during the Permatang Pauh by-election, which had in recent days attracted numerous police reports filed by MCA, Gerakan and DAP grassroot leaders.

    Speaking at a press conference at InvestPenang here today, Lim said PPSB, with Ahmad as director, had bought a 4.2ha industrial land in Bukit Minyak from PDC for RM5.5 million in 1997.

    The company placed a 20% deposit totalling RM1.1 million on May 9, 1997, but was unable to pay the full amount later. It subsequently asked for the agreement to be cancelled and the money refunded on May 30, 1998. PDC agreed to return 10% while the remaining 10% was to be forfeited.

    “But the 10% that was to be returned should have been payable to Perbadanan Usahawan Nasional Bhd (PUNB), the body that had financed the purchase, not to the company,” Lim said.

    Noting that PPSB did not then pass the amount to the bank, Lim said PDC had to then fork out an additional RM500,000 to be paid directly to PUNB to get back the title for the land.

    Lim questioned why the state did not pay the amount directly to the bank.

    http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=25304

  21. #21 by ilovedap on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 6:10 pm

    Please lock …Ahmad Ismail into a cage please. He’s endangering the society.

  22. #22 by tenaciousB on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 6:15 pm

    Wake up malaysians and understand what is going on in our country. 49 MP’s flown to taiwan on peoples tax money! This is atrocious. BN is doing it to preserve its governance, to salvage itself from being dethroned on whose account, the people of course.

    How does it feel when the money you pay the government is used to fund its corrupted ways and to preserve its corrupt ways from being challenged.

    Time for an imminent change, dethrone the BN!

  23. #23 by gofortruth on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 6:30 pm

    Latest Abdul Ismail’s press conference:-

    http://malaysiakini.com/news/89305

  24. #24 by gofortruth on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 6:31 pm

    More warnings from him.

  25. #25 by gofortruth on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 6:32 pm

    He is really trying to create racial unrest.

  26. #26 by Saint on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 6:36 pm

    A timely message to prevent UNMO and BN from making things worse.
    Hope PR takes over the government ASAP.

  27. #27 by hadi on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 6:52 pm

    They are doing it again, that the end justify the means. Let pray that the people will not buy the manipulation on racial and religion that is being played out now. Something need to be done as this irresponsible people will not stop to ensure everything is status quo. So sad and so low and how low will they go. Rakyat must say never,never never to taken for granted.

  28. #28 by just a moment on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 6:57 pm

    Dearest gofortruth Says:

    Today at 18: 30.17 (25 minutes ago)
    Latest Abdul Ismail’s press conference:-

    http://malaysiakini.com/news/89305

    Bolehkah, tranlsate a little bit what’s all that report about?
    Plsssssssssss.Tak faham loh.
    Thanks a lot

  29. #29 by son of perpaduan on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 7:03 pm

    Sekarang punya dunia tidak seperti dulu, mungkin hanya segelintir pihak cuma pentingkan kedudukan sendiri sedangkan posesi mereka tidak lagi stabil serta dah goyang melainkan cari jalan mengbangkitkan isu perkauman supaya rakyat berbilang bangsa berlawan antara satu sama lain. Dunia yang terbuka sekarang telah pun dilihat jelas oleh rakyat malaysia yang berpengaruh luas dan tidak mungkin lagi dipengaruh oleh Umno.
    Pilihanraya dan serta by-election yang lepas adalah tanda yang lebih jelas bahawa rakyat malaysia berbilang kaum sebulat suara mengizinkan PR meneruskan perjuangan untuk generasi yang akan datang. BN akan diperkebumikan bawah tanah selama-lamanya.
    Malaysia telah diselamatkan oleh kelahiran PR dan terus menguasai sehingga menjadi negara yang terkuat diseluruh asia tenggara.

  30. #30 by dawsheng on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 7:11 pm

    This UMNO Penang’s motives have far reaching implications and it is race politics of the worst kind. Well, Malaysians are just too smart to fall for it.

  31. #31 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 7:16 pm

    Breaking News! DOG FIGHT!…

    Ismail and His fellow companions tabloid exploits, behaving like animals by condemning and tearing Koh Tsu Koon pictures haha!

    YOU BOTH DISGRACE TO OUR NATION AND SHOULD PUT BOTH OF YOUR RETARDEDA$$ LOCK BEHIND BARS!

  32. #32 by son of perpaduan on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 7:28 pm

    Hey asalusul,
    where you got from the breaking news?
    please give the site address, thanks.

  33. #33 by devilmaster on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 7:32 pm

    I dont understand why ISA is still not being used against people who stir-up violence through racism like Ahmad Ismail. What is it for then?

    This animal is definitely 10x more dangerous than Hindraf.

  34. #34 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 7:45 pm

    it was reportedi n ntv 7,@ 7pm primenews showing the supporters of this ahmad tearing off the poster picture of koh , and asking other bn component parties to sack gerakan from bn. hello mr.koh, if you have any principle left in you as a person and a party leader, quit la bn. next the gutter politics of ahmad and supporters will probabaly burn your effigy. sicko ahmad.

  35. #35 by king cobra on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 7:50 pm

    low class ahmad do low & no class actions

  36. #36 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 7:55 pm

    the tearing off the picture of mr .koh is a total insult to him and gerakan. what will abdullah badawi as the prime minister and chariman of bn gotta to say this time. gosh, what an insult and rude behaviour of this ahmad and gang. time for the law to take its cause. oophs, what law. will najib apologise again ? will abdullah badawi say it was a callous mistake and not to be repeated.

  37. #37 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 8:02 pm

    dear devilmaster,

    sorry sir, you are absolutely wrong. hindraf is never a danger to malaysia. hindraf merely stating their appeal for their sufferings to be addressed by the government. hindraf members are labourers and estates workers by large and had and has been marginalised . this ahmad is a filthy rich state assemblyman who called the chinese ” squatters “. hindraf never called anyone squatters, nor tore any pictures of any leaders. this ahmad supporters tore up mr. koh ‘s picture in full view of the press. can you guess who is behind this ahmad?

  38. #38 by jus legitimum on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 8:04 pm

    The police is absolutely double standard.The AI and his monkeys are still let loose.They should now be locked up before further damage is done.

    “Hoi.AI,hang ni memang kurang ajar.Tak patutlah pakai gelaran mu yang tak nilai 1 sen pun.Berlagak macam samseng dan buat sampai koyakkan dan maki gambar KSK.Kelakuan ni macam budak saja,Nak jadi pemimpin,mana boleh?Lebih baik letak jawatan dan balik ke kampung tanam ubi.Jangan terus memalukan puak dan bangsa hang.”

  39. #39 by jus legitimum on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 8:11 pm

    Very very shameful.No wonder the country is so rotten.How not to be when you have these idiots serving as leaders for years?

  40. #40 by Malaysian Mummy on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 8:48 pm

    Time is running for Pakatan Rakyat to remove the racist parties to be end the corrupt government as claimed by Tun Dr M in HardTalk invterviewed lately.

    It is pointless for all DAP, PAS and PKR politicians in Pakatan Rakyat to voice loudly, shout, talk big and keep talking baseless or criticised their enemies in BN but no actions to improve the current political situations in Malaysia.

    “916” is the People Power Reformation D-DAY for Pakatan Rakyat to take over the ligitimate power.

    JOM TUKAR – PEOPLE WANT ANWAR TO HONOR HIS PROMISES AND WORDS TO CHANGE THE CURRENT ECONOMY AND FINANCIAL POSITIONS OF THE NATION. JUST DONT TALK – JUST DO IT ON 916 !

    Makkal Sakti ! BN lost another MP in Sabah – Pakatan Rakyat needs 29 MPs to crossover on 916 now. So why wait ?

    Count Down 9/8 to 9/16 (8 Days To Go For Malaysia Freedom Day ) EEEE HAAA !

  41. #41 by NAR2645 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 8:48 pm

    NTV7 English News at 8.pm today

    SMS survey:

    BN Should take action against Ahmad Ibrahim to put the matter to rest.

    97% voted Yes!

    What more you want to say? Racist AI?

  42. #42 by Xiao He on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 8:48 pm

    Mr Lim,

    In paragraph 2:
    … serta kedudukan hak-hak istimewa orang Melayu dan Bumiputera serta hak-hak semua kaum yang telah dijamin oleh Perlembagaan.

    If one looks into our federal constitution carefully, article 153:
    there is absolutely no mention of this special rights of Malay (hak istimewa orang Melayu), there is only special “positions” of Malay (kedudukan istimewa orang Melayu)

    so, all these while what UMNO has been talking about this “special rights”, it is not even contained in our federal constitution. what is there is this “special position” (kedudukan istimewa orang Melayu)

    as to whether there is any difference between this “special rights” and “special position”, i leave it to your interpretation. but for me, they are totally different things.

    therefore, i call for an amendment to the above press statement where the word “hak-hak” be deleted in paragraph 2.

  43. #43 by penang308 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:00 pm

    Hope you guys did watch NTV7 & 8TV news!

    It is something we never see before. Now I can’t wait to grap a copy of chinese newspaper to see what they have to say!

    I think we will see a lot of GELAKan member will start to abandon the sinking Titanic from now on….

  44. #44 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:01 pm

    the three percent who voted NO include …………..

  45. #45 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:03 pm

    typo error.
    the three person who voted NO are ahmad, abdullah, jib.

  46. #46 by gofortruth on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:19 pm

    Another news on Abdul Ismail’s press conference

    http://www.merdekareview.com/news.php?n=7612
    ——————–
    The gist literally translated the 1st 3 paragraghs –
    1) He warns the Chinese not to imitate the Jews in America to control the Malaysian politic and economy;
    2) He threatens to call Malays from all the states for mass meetings;
    3)He says the Malay emotions are high now and therefore UMNO will not let go this opportunity to unite the Malays;
    4) He says that this “squatters issue” has successfully fired up the grass root Malays emotion and therefore UMNO will not miss this opportunity to call mass meetings for the Malays in all the states.
    5) He says he will call such a mass meeting in Penang shortly.

    ———-
    This is a dangerous man who is threatening the peace of Malaysian Multi racial society!

  47. #47 by sammyvellu on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:21 pm

    Over the past few months, all of UMNO and BN’s actions to gain publicity has apparently backfired.

    Is this deliberately engineered or is this the brainchild of PR?

    In the world of politics, one would be foolish to discount the obvious

  48. #48 by just a moment on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:25 pm

    Ppl, pls go for latest here;
    Anyone else who have info, pls keep us inform?
    This is the first of many installment coming,
    just watch!!

    Latest: Penang MCA severs ties with Ahmad Ismail

    http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=25474

  49. #49 by gofortruth on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:29 pm

    Looks like the next card on their hand to stop Anwar is to play up racial unrest so that BN can continue to rule under state of emergency.

  50. #50 by dap-for-pj on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:39 pm

    to get gerakan quit bn now is exactly falling into the trap set up by these goons. If gerakan quits, there is no more opposition to these goons to claim as the sole representative of BN in penang. KSH better can serve better by being a ‘thorn’ in these BN goon’s otherwise perfect dream. I am really sad that gerakan has got themselves into this situation.

  51. #51 by yhsiew on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:39 pm

    ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH Says:
    Today at 19: 55.26 (1 hour ago)

    the tearing off the picture of mr .koh is a total insult to him and gerakan………..
    ——————————————————————-

    Abdullah must not sit still; he has to do something fast to halt this BN “civil war” from evolving into another May 13.

    No Malaysian in his right mind would want to see the situation deteriorate.

  52. #52 by dawsheng on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:44 pm

    Let us see how many Malays are willing to die for the corrupted Ahmad Ismail?

  53. #53 by just a moment on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:48 pm

    YB Lim,
    I’am just wondering how much more this abuse of racial remarks
    by this ‘Thing’ be tolerated before the police act on it?
    All the evidence are there to see, right from newspapers to TV.

    I won’t be surprise nothing will happen, but does this warrant
    an arrest under ISA for creating and threatening the nation’s peace?

    This is highly inflammable, was it he didn’t get a ticket to Taiwan?
    Or planned in such timing that the rest is not here to witness?
    What sort of backing would this ‘Thing’ get?

  54. #54 by dawsheng on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:52 pm

    We should all just sit still and do nothing! MCA said that the Chinese are offended by Ahmad Ismail’s outburst, really? Firstly, MCA do not represent the Chinese in Malaysia. Secondly, as a Chinese, I am not offended at all. Ahmad Ismail can say anything, he can call me a pig, but if he steals the Rakyat money, he’ll pay for it in jail, that is all I care.

  55. #55 by dap-for-pj on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:56 pm

    At this time of need. I extend my hand across party lines to support KSK. He is anyway defending our ‘maruah’ as victims of racial slur. This is the time for him to stand up to the putrajaya big bosses and be counted! Give us a good show Mr.Koh!

  56. #56 by dawsheng on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:59 pm

    I must advice UMNO that this is not 1969, this year is 2008. Everything you do will be properly documented and I assure you, there will be no secrets and we’ll get back to you shortly after that.

  57. #57 by gofortruth on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:00 pm

    Its hard to imagine that after having just met with the boss Prime Minister Badawi last Saturday who after the meeting wisely cautioned all to move away from sensitive issue, yet 2 days later the same divisional head of UMNO Abdul Ismail continues to throw another bomb shell today this time including tearing up of Dr. Koh’s picture, the former Chief Minister of Penang. What audacity and what will Prime Minister do now?

  58. #58 by dap-for-pj on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:08 pm

    PM is now peeing in his pants, hiding under the bed! Don’t expect him to say anything. Next I think he will blame GERAKAN, MCA and the press, except AI himself for blowing this thing up. That’s our mickey mouse pee-em style.

  59. #59 by robert wong on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:10 pm

    This Ahmad Ismail not only provoking the racial issue he also drag in the religious issue as well. Furthermore , he insulted the jews as well. This Ahmad is a devil re-incarnated and deserve to be cremated n trown back to hell. There are Christians , buddhist and Hindus who would fight to their death to defend thier rights also , we aint sitting ducks.

  60. #60 by baochingtian on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:12 pm

    To limkaput, someone needs to run the state and can’t afford to get involved in such political games since the general election. Otherwise YB Lim will be criticised for not spending enough time to run the state.

  61. #61 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:12 pm

    if mr.koh wants to stand up against putrajaya bosses, than gerakan should quit bn. period.

    mca, forget it. the whisky and puer team are no better than enriching themselves.

    let us refresh memories.

    1. what happened to the bigot teacher who utter racial slur against the indian students. KES TUTUP.

  62. #62 by rakyat_biasa on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:14 pm

    i think this is could be a possible trap,

    you see, Ahmad Ismail (agreesive talk) & Dr Koh Tsu Koon (agreesive defense) are under the same boss- UMNO, this could be a show they are making to make 2 races fight (in real) so it could become a chaos (or riot, which is what they want).

    tearing off Dr.Koh’s photo in public (with reporters around) just now is a act to me, this matter has not got serious enough for his supporter to express his anger to such way (they are the one started the topic anyway).
    & i am expecting to see some “angry” or “revenge” act from Gerakan tomorrow, so the planned fight will go on & it will try it best to get bigger, hopefully to involve more other (outsider) parties or citizens, then there will be chance to start a fire…

    so only 10 days left before 916 hope there isn’t any real “fire” been created by this.

  63. #63 by Tulip Crescent on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:15 pm

    dap-for-pj Says:

    Today at 21: 56.34 (15 minutes ago)
    At this time of need. I extend my hand across party lines to support KSK. He is anyway defending our ‘maruah’ as victims of racial slur. This is the time for him to stand up to the putrajaya big bosses and be counted! Give us a good show Mr.Koh!

    ***** ***** *****

    dap-for-pj

    Don’t think in terms of race. Don’t buy into the process that the Ahmad Ismails of Malaysia are inviting us into.

    Think in terms of a badly brought up Malaysian insulting many other Malaysians. The offending Malaysian is not very kind. In fact, he is very cruel.

    That is why a friend of mine who has since passed away advised me always to make sure that the dog that I feed will not turn around to bite me.

    Savvy?

  64. #64 by Tulip Crescent on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:22 pm

    dap-for-pj

    And please forget about KSK. He is not worth it. He is not fighting for our dignity. He is fighting for his own image which has been shattered beyond repair. We can fight for our own dignity.

    Look at what KSK did to Penang and failed to do for Penang during his long tenure as Chief Minister. He even ignored his predecessor, except paying lip service to him on certain public occasions.

    He was the unintended beneficiary of Chong Eu’s Gerakan. But then, Chong Eu, for all the great politician that he is, never trusted anybody.

    It was Chong Eu who splintered the group infused in 1974. And he presided over their fractious infighting, leading to unintended beneficiaries such as KSK and Dr THN.

  65. #65 by gofortruth on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:25 pm

  66. #66 by ZhouYu on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:26 pm

    The fate of an ex-CM

    http://malaysiakini.com/news/89319

  67. #67 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:30 pm

    dap for pj.

    ask not what we can do for ksk , he deserved it. but asked what had ksk did for us. he had unleased a mad animal, he will have to rope it back. with or without his master from putrajaya.

  68. #68 by boh-liao on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:35 pm

    Obviously Ahmad Ismail is going for broke and doing and saying things to incite racial feelings and hatred, racial violence, and racial rioting! Why no ISA against this desperado?

    Ahmad Ismail (who was a director of a now-defunct company) is hoping for a racial riot so that he does not have to return some RM500,000 to the Penang State after a failed land deal.

  69. #69 by limkamput on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:36 pm

    Don’t play into the racist hand. If Gerakan leaves which is what the racist hopes for, the Malays will gavitate toward UMNO. This is the last trump card UMNO is playing now. Get all the Malays and other Muslim Bumiputra behind UMNO, all BN component parties can go to Timbaktu. That is what they want – govern this country alone.

  70. #70 by milduser on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:37 pm

    If the BN (read Amnoo) continues its racial politics, they will have to reap its consequences. The Ahmad Ismail revolt will give the Amnoo leadership more than enough to chew for a couple of weeks and get distracted with threat of Gerakan and MCA leaving the BN. So, PR will really have a field day in the next few days! Strike when the iron is hot! Or forever keep your peace.

  71. #71 by Richardqed on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:39 pm

    Thanks to the inaction of the PM and DPM, this Ahmad Ismail is getting more and more absurd.

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/8711-ahmad-ismail-blames-koh-for-tensions-

    Ahmad Ismail, based on the news report, has even asked for Gerakan to be expelled from the BN. But KohTK has been too kind and has not demanded the same for Ahmad.

    But how much kinder does Koh want to get? Is this the time for him to show he’s a “gentleman”? If he doesn’t stand up to the joker and show he’s a man, how can Malaysians expect Koh to stand up for them and make demands on their behalf?

  72. #72 by boh-liao on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:48 pm

    Be warned – Ahmad Ismail may be used by the BN to incite troubles which may then subsequently lead to an emergency situation and Operasi Lalang II!

    Out of curiosity, the 49 BN MPs who flew to Taiwan – did their wifes/husbands/girl or boy friends/family members go with them? Who pays for their fares and expenses in Taiwan?

  73. #73 by creed84 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:50 pm

    YB Lim,

    Dengan ancaman dan kata-kata melampau Ahmad Ismail, ternyata UMNO telah nazak dan akan meninggal bila-bila masa. Saya sebagai seorang Melayu merasa jijik dan hina dengan sikap AI dan UMNO yang memainkan isu perkauman untuk mendapat sokongan politik. Orang Melayi tidak akan termakan dengan permainan ini lagi.

    Saya berharap Pakatan Rakyat berdiri teguh dan cepat mengambil alih pemerintahan Malaysia, sebelum sesuatu yang lebih buruk berlaku. Saya percaya, golongan UMNO BN yang gila kuasa ini akan berbuat apa sahaja untuk meraih kembali kuasa mereka yang telah rakyat rampas kembali itu.

    Justeru saya menyeru kepada kawan2 saya, Melayu, Cina, India, Iban, Kadazan, seluruh bangsa Malaysia tercinta ini supaya jangan termakan dengan provokasi UMNO dan BN ini. Mari kita berdiri teguh di belakang Pakatan Rakyat, demi mencapai Malaysia Baru, Makmur dan Maju!

    Hidup Malaysia!
    Hidup Bangsa Malaysia!

  74. #74 by scorpian6666 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:51 pm

    Sadly the real person that has provoked the Malay and the Muslim (wonder if it included the Chinese or Indian or Melanau Muslim) is a Malay himself.
    Let’s move on .. I believe moderate Malaysian Malay has grown up. Anwar is our living proof. So let Him (a Malay) united all the Malay and the Muslim so we could all live peacefully.

  75. #75 by lkt-56 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 11:04 pm

    Kit & all fellow Malaysians,
    Time to give this issue a break. To carry on harping on the issue will only play into the hands of those who wish to destroy all progress made thus far towards non-communal politics.

    It is good for PKR to come up with a statement signed by all the leaders. Now it is time to cool things down.

    No big deal if we are called immigrants by one who is irrational with emotion. Let us peace loving Malaysians act with dignity and ignore him and others who may subsequently come out to stoke the fire.

    Be resolute and steer us towards what truly matters right now … ;)

  76. #76 by abby on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 11:15 pm

    Please let me know how to access malaysia today.. I think its block again and I don’t know how to access it. Thanks

  77. #77 by justice fighter on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 11:31 pm

  78. #78 by alancheah on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 11:34 pm

    Truely sad to see that this country still has a person like him.

  79. #79 by baochingtian on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 11:44 pm

    With all the police reports lodged against this arrogant racist, how come he wasn’t charged and taken in for interrogation?
    I watched AEC just now; Dr Khor’s picture was torn. How can KSK still play his cool ? Where is his anger?

  80. #80 by Blue.kinetic on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 11:47 pm

    Congrate PR for coming out with this statement and well-said. I totatly touch with this statement which show a heart and cares for Malaysian. Well done!

  81. #81 by One4All4One on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 11:49 pm

    Another BLACK MARK in Malaysia’s history, made in Penang.

    This incident is morally worse than May 13.

    Here we have a person who is hell bent on creating a tragic situation which will stoke the fire of resentment and to pit the people of Malaysia against one another. And hopefully to create trouble,chaos, social upheaval and unrest of the worst possible and unimaginable kind.

    The behaviour exhibited by Ahmad Ismail and his fellow ill-advised supporters is not acceptable at all to ALL MALAYSIANS. He demonstrated an anti-social attitude which if go unchecked would surely bring the nation down the path of tension, destruction and disaster.

    May 13 cannot be allowed to repeat itself simply because Malaysia cannot afford another such calamity, and there are no reasons for one either. And we should categorically object to an reject any attempts to start one.

    The authorities must begin immediately to dissect the whole episode and analyse how it could have been allowed to progress this far. The police must act without fear and favour.

    Ahmad Ismail and his supporters must be dealt with immediately in order that their ill-intention and sabotage could be contained. It is no more a hate speech; it is a seditious, malicious, anti-Malaysian, illegal, dangerous, and unwarranted.

    This group of over-zealous and over-reacting UMNO members has to be counselled and brought back to reality. Nothing warrants their actions and reactions.

  82. #82 by pangwl88 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 11:52 pm

    ISA is blind, so is C4-Najib and Bodohwi.

    Let see what they will do tomorow when they meet the all powerful Ahmad…. will be the determining factor if Bodohwi stays or not in November.

  83. #83 by son of perpaduan on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:02 am

    Let see how the police doing their job in handling sensitive issue

  84. #84 by kerajaan.rakyat on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:07 am

    BERJAYAKAH ANWAR BENTUK
    KERAJAAN PAKATAN RAKYAT PADA 16hb SEPT INI?

    BERIKAN UNDIAN ANDA DI SINI
    http://kerajaanrakyat-news.blogspot.com/

  85. #85 by mohammadharrisjalil on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:13 am

    Ahmad Ismail tu ingat dia tu hero la konon…

    LKS said = Satu Titanik Akan Tengelam…
    I said = Dah nak tenggelam, Tapi masih mahu pandu…
    Someone said = You Jump I Jump!

    i cant wait for 160908!!!!

  86. #86 by jus legitimum on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:23 am

    If words and actions similar to those of AI and his gang were said and done by DAP/MCA/Gerakan/MIC supporters,the police will not waste even one second to lock them up.But alas what has happened to PDRM now?Where are you?It is just unbelievable.Such dangerous people can be allowed to break the laws and no action taken.What a shame?

  87. #87 by son of perpaduan on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:27 am

    Aiyoh yoh….khir toyol said may 13th will happen lah.
    I’m very scare lah…toyol.
    Come on..toyol..open your eyes and ear lah. the world is borderless lah, even when you go hidding in indonesia, I still can trace you lor.

  88. #88 by HJ Angus on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:35 am

    It is time for the PM and DPM to show that they are leading a nation and not just some political heads in a state.

    This has really gone out of hand – like the small fire that was ignored and become an inferno.

    http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2008/09/malaysiakini-reports-most-disturbing.html

  89. #89 by katdog on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:36 am

    Khir Toyo’s father was an Indonesian immigrant who was given Malaysian citizenship. What he know about May 13? Maybe his grandfather who was living in Indonesia at that time told him stories about May 13.

  90. #90 by FromTheOutside on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 12:45 am

    I usually would not condone the use of the ISA in any scenario, but all this unnecessary aggression is practically begging for it.
    I must say I’ve been following all the goings-on quite closely as of late from here in S’pore, and the Malaysia I once thought of as an alternate home of happy seclusion and enigma has evolved into that of chaos and power-struggles. I think the phrase that would best apply to Malaysians of all forms, disregarding how cliched it has become, would be: People Power. It is thoroughly refreshing to see citizens use their right of free speech to critique that which has become mundane and irrelevant in this global arena; where racial and religious boundaries are mere excuses to further divide and conquer.
    So, be it at the hands of DSAI or the next better player, I sincerely hope that Malaysia would be restored (or transformed) to a country with responsible leaders, leaders who actually put the people first, above all.
    Also, I’m not sure exactly how many of you share the sentiment of eradicating racial parties (UMNO, MIC, MCA…) as they, to me, are fodder when it comes to dealing with their so-called respective ethnic groups. You would probably need one or two MPs from the various ethnic groups to be responsible for economic/social welfare of their people. Let’s not swirl into a racial divide where people are judged by their skin colour, because I say, the more lines are drawn, the further we become from true and complete unity.

  91. #91 by Samuel Goh Kim Eng on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:05 am

    After showing off one’s ignorance
    Now comes the condamning arrogance
    All openly revealed in public appearance
    Better off if join in the game of disappearance

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 090908
    http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
    Tue. 9th Sept. 2008.

  92. #92 by Elwin Heng on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:12 am

    Strongly disagree and condemn the racist and rakyat.betrayer A.Ismail & his gangster beast!

    Irrespective and irresponsibility PM & DPM, inefficient plus ineffective action against A.Ismail till bad commotion by making a racist warning again-and-again?

    Back to SA detention history, I/we notice the most efficiency and effectiveness can action against opposition communities, but at this moment, why can’t those reaction of efficiency-or-effectiveness against A.Ismail? Or detain (lockup) him then start-/-continue investigation? Show us your profession, HM!

    TQ.
    Warmest regards.

  93. #93 by m.hwang on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:12 am

    Any talk about about Malay Rights or who came to Malaysia first will only incite racial hatred AND play into the hands of Ahmad Ismail and Gang. Wake up readers and expose this guy for what he is…an inciter of racial hatred for his own political survival and benefit. Malaysians of all races should unite against any attempts to split us!

    P.S. Does this also mean we will forget about the report lodged against Ahmad’s previous company by the PDCC?

  94. #94 by m.hwang on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:14 am

    abby, try this:

    http://mt.m2day.org/2008/

  95. #95 by lhslhv on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:21 am

    I think we Malaysian still remember the hooliganism of UMNO deputy youth leader who wanted to torch the Chinese Chamber of Commerce a few years back.

    He was immediated removed by TDM.

    In this case TDM had done his job.

  96. #96 by Malaysian Mummy on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:22 am

    916 is a GOLDEN GOLD for People Power Reformation Freedom for all Malaysians.

    916 is an Auspicious Number for many punters to believe that Pakatan Rakyat victory is People Power Victory and downfall of Dacing and Corrupt Regime in Malaysia.

    916 is a D-Day for Anwar to honour his promises and words for Bangsa Malaysia aspiration for united Malaysian communities of all races and religions.

    916 total up to Luck Number 7 for all Malaysians to get rid of the racist, corrupt, cronies and nepotism politicians to uphold the Federal Constitutions and bring back the real Independence MERDEKA for all Malaysians.

    Believe it or Not ! 8 days count down is the most vital time boom for Pakatan Rakyat to achieve “ONE NATION, ONE BANGSA MALAYSIA, ONE JUSTICE, ONE DREAM”

    WHAT ARE THEY (PKR, DAP AND PAS) ARE WAITING FOR ? JUST DO IT & SAVE MALAYSIA TODAY.

    HIDUP MALAYSIA BOLEH BOLEH

  97. #97 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:30 am

    son of perpaduan Says:

    Yesterday at 19: 28.40
    Hey asalusul,
    where you got from the breaking news?
    please give the site address, thanks.
    *****************************

    Ooops sry was busy didnt read that, here…

    http://www.merdekareview.com/news.php?n=7612

    For those who cant read Chinese, NO Worries!…
    click “Cut” and “Paste” translate here, it works pretty accurate.

    http://translate.google.com.my/translate_t#

    Now we can read chinese hehe.. Enjoy ;)

  98. #98 by lhslhv on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:32 am

    I think Ahmad Ismail is trying to saboage the Malaysian against each other hoping that his ACA land scam will not be pursued further.

    This is a dangerous man indeed.

    What has Islam to do with this issue? He is bringing Islam into the scene. How pathetic can this fellow be?

    Who is challenging Islam?

  99. #99 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:45 am

    “The most important thing is narrow the gap between our unity so that countries can peace and harmony for all peoples can live. If a crisis, the state of instability, the Chinese also difficult to do business.” – AI

    ********
    HAH VERY NAIVE! IM SCARED INDEED…

    Im already doomed by the inflation itself and its already killing me, business losses 40% comparison last year. I doubt it would be worsen if your retardeda$$ still on the loose.

  100. #100 by m.r.ang on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 1:59 am

    They used to blame PKR members as hooligan for showing support during DSAI arrest back in 1998. But now what happens, they will be even worse when DSAI take over the Government on 916.Look at the 13 UMNO supporters for Ahmad showing their devil act and tearing the poster of KSK ( anyway I think KSK deserve it).
    Bodowi I thought you ask him to do a press conference to defuse
    the current tension but look what he did instead.He not only ask your BN to expel Gerakan. This clearly show that he and all the 13 UMNO does not respect you at all. SO PLEASE RESIGN.

  101. #101 by flyer168 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 2:27 am

    Dear YB LKS,

    With the “Critical, Dangerous & Ugly” Political situation developing in this great nation, precipated by the “Evil & Desperate” Powers-that-be, provoking & inciting “Racial & Religious” divide amongst the downtrodden “Anak Bangsa Malaysia, we have to be virgilant, stay calm, have Faith in God Almighty for His Blessings, Protection & Guidance so that we will not fall into the BN “Trap”.

    Also I take note of the comment by newmalay which we should not discount when the “Evil & Desperate” powers-that-be have “check-mate” themselves in their final “Death Throes”.

    http://rockybru.blogspot.com/

    080908 rocky’s bru – Pre-16/9 SMS….dia akan memusnah Islam & Melayu di M’sia…..

    Quote :

    newmalay Sep 7th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
    [email protected]

    bismillahirrahmanirrahim.
    astagfirullahil azim.

    subhanallah.
    alhamdulullah.
    allahu akbar.

    Sunday, September 07, 2008
    dear peace loving malaysians,

    Just ignore that Ahmad, the racist and the BN racial gomen. Dont even respond to his provocations.

    the fight for justice is far from over.
    916 is just the beginning. But 916 must happen to end BN.

    Pray for keadilan. Stay calm. Act firmly.

    Topic political assassinations / violence:

    What do these leaders have something in common?……Unquote.

    DSAI & YM RPK must be advised accordingly & must be virgilant to the possibilities.

    May God Almighty continue to “Bless, Protect & Guide” them safely towards the “MERDEKA 916? destination. Insha’Allah.

  102. #102 by flyer168 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 2:35 am

    Dear YB LKS,

    The 916 issue is being hotly debated by various groups – the issue & the morality of it vs the neutral arguement & the “majority” who have had “enough” of the BN.

    First, let us agree on the “Basic” issue to “reduce” the BN majority within the “Constitutional framework”.

    If we miss 916, then it will be a while before we get another “Window” of opportunity to pursue our struggle for that “New Dawn”.

    As such DSAI & PR must find solutions to achieve that “Basic” issue to “reduce” the BN majority within the “Constitutional framework”.

    Another choice can also be considered as mentioned by
    Blogger shar101. Quote:

    shar101 Says:
    September 9, 2008 at 12:16 am

    “There is a third option.

    Disgruntled BN component parties can opt out of the coalition without joining PR and set up a Third Front. By doing so, BN’s mandate to govern becomes null and void whilst the sanctity of voters’ choice is maintained. At worst, UMNO becomes a minority government and it will provide the option for the Agong to invoke his powers to re-appoint a new PM or call for another GE if no suitable candidate is available.

    Granted, there will then be three factions in parliament which may appear ‘chaotic’ but it opens up the ground for more definitive debate on existing (ISA/OSA, etc) and new (DNA) laws.

    It might even create the opportunity for a unity government and/or a grand coalition whereupon national issues can addressed without fear or favor.

    Ultimately, whatever is to happen in parliament and in turn, the proper governance of this nation, it must reflect people power through their choice of people-in-power who represent the electorate.

    Post GE12, almost every political party are evolving or reforming in one way or the other, except UMNO. We, the people, must therefore allow this to continue. But unlike before, we will remain vigilant and vocal because the rules of the game have changed.

    And not because AI says it is.” Unquote.

  103. #103 by gofortruth on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 2:46 am

    “SEPT 8 — The right thing for the police to do tonight is to lock up Datuk Ahmad Ismail and charge him with sedition when the courts open tomorrow morning.”

    Please read –
    http://themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/8714-ahmad-turns-to-divide-and-rule

    ——————————–
    But where is our home minister Syed Hamid Albar? Is he home?
    Please don’t leave us just when we needed you most!

  104. #104 by delCapo on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 2:56 am

    They r kicking so many own goals with this AhMAD… i suspect it’s all staged… AABzzz & Jib are playing us…

    be careful of racial politics…. in case 916 happens… they will try a may13

    ______________________
    http://delcapo.wordpress.com/

  105. #105 by creed84 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:26 am

    Aku pun sokong AI ini ditahan ISA! Kita tengok Polis Malaysia ni berani ke tidak nak tahan pemimpin UMNO yang nazak ni bawah ISA!!

  106. #106 by tenaciousB on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:37 am

    Who is this ahmad ismail, is he more influencial and powerful than the PM until Badawi has to arrange to meet him and ?discipline him.

    How can he be allowed to hold a press conference and instill racial slurs against the chinese? Who is he to threaten the non malays in this country? This is a perfect example of the illiterate people who have been nominated as leaders in UMNO. They are so emotional, unprofessional, disarrayed, filled with hatred towards nonmalays!

    What i can’t undertand is why is badawi sitting on this man’s fate? Why not remand him under ISA and charge him for inciting racial sentiments!

    I think this is the best time for gerakan to leave BN!

  107. #107 by antiracist on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:49 am

    Niat dan matlamat UMNO sudah tercapai. Orang Cina mula marah, Orang Melayu makin terasa. Apa lagi yang diharapkan dari tindakan UMNO ini selain untuk memporak-perandakan negara kita. Harap semua dapat berfikir secara rasional. Jangan mengungkit siapa yang datang dahulu la, siapa yang bayar cukai lebih la apa yang penting kita bersatu menantikan 16 september yang akan kunjung tiba. Jika ianya berlaku janganlah ada antara kita yang menuntut yang bukan-bukan berkaitan hak kaum lain. Jaga sensitiviti sesama, cuba fahami antara satu sama lain. Jika tidak janganlah harap perpaduan akan muncul. satu bangsa minta hapuskan azan, satu bangsa minta hapuskan kawasan kubur satu bangsa minta semua bangsa lain kembali ke tanah asal mereka. Belajarlah dari sejarah, bermula 1511 Melaka dijajah walapun tamadunnya kuat sehingga Kerajaan China sanggup kekerjasama namun disebabkan pengkhianatan yang berlaku sesama rakyat akhirnya Melaka jatuh jua walapun cuba bangkit semula. Disebabkan kemajuan Melaka maka ramailah orang yang datang menumpang kasih di Melaka dahulu. Untuk pengetahuan sahabat semua zaman zahulu rumpun Melayu adalah dikawasan Malaysia ( Semenanjung tanah Melayu ), Indonesia, Selatan Filipina sehingga sekarang, ia dipisahkan akibat perjanjian Inggeris Belanda yang membahagikan tanah jajahan mereka sesuka hati. Sebab itulah apabila perpindahan berlaku hanya dari Malaysia ke Indonesia atau sebaliknya. hujah yang mengatakan bahawa inilah sahaja kawasan rumpun Melayu memang ada kebenarannya. Janganlah kita nafikan sejarah. Namun demikian dalam keadaan sekarang, janganlah kita ungkit hak bangsa lain dalam negara kita. Atas tujuan itulah, Islam tidak pernah memberi restu faham kebangsaan untuk dilaksanakan. Keadilan dalam Islam untuk semua kaum dirosakkan oleh propaganda UMNO. Agama lain bebas diamalkan tanpa mengurang sedikitpun amalan mereka. Ambil contoh di Kelantan, kerajaan negeri menjaga kebajikan untuk semua, Patung Buddha tidur terbesar, wat siam yang banyak, kuil dan tokong yang boleh dibina walaupun Bukan Islam minoriti di Kelantan sekitar 5-10 Peratus sahaja , tetapi tiada ugutan untuk melaksanakan agama mereka.

  108. #108 by kentutoyol on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 6:36 am

    Words are like birds, once released they cannot be recaptured. Ahmad is trying to save his skin while at the same time blaming others for his mistake. What a dangerous man. PM must do something and fast!

  109. #109 by sotong on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 6:59 am

    It is time for a real Merdeka…….with the unique culture and traditions of ordinary bumi and their best interests fully protected.

  110. #110 by pulau_sibu on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 7:07 am

    despite the death threatS, why the reporters have not lodged the police report?

  111. #111 by k1980 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 8:05 am

    Gerakan members, please don’t leave BN. Instead, all Gerakan members please do Malaysia a big favour by committing harakiri. The country is better off without scum like you. Good riddance and a pox on all your descendants.

  112. #112 by cina on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 8:43 am

    “Sunday Star reported that Rajeshvari spent 11 months at the Lenggeng immigration depot for illegals because she could not remember her identity card number when police raided a coffee shop in Kuala Lumpur last October.

    Rajeshvari, who was also not fluent in Bahasa Malaysia, was detained on suspicion of being a Sri Lankan illegal.”

    Another sad case of ex-vernacular school student.
    If she was from a Kebangsaan school, she will be able to save herself from been detained for 11months.

    Vernacular school is not good for our children.
    Most of the useless and illiterate students were those from v schools.
    Our Government should stop building such schools and build more Kebangsaan or Vision schools.
    Our Government should limit the number of v schools as such school does more harms than benefits to our societies.

  113. #113 by Bigjoe on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 8:51 am

    Its fantastic to see that PR sees what Ahmad Ismail + gang is really up to. They hope to create enough chaos to take advantage it. Its a version of May 13, 1969 but within UMNO first. They figured that once they take over UMNO, KTK and the likes can be silenced.

    It actually is a challenge now for PR to convince BN MPs especially in Sabah and Sarawak, this is bad for all of them and PR is their only hope. There is nothing in it for Sabah and Sarawak if these groups take over. In fact, they would get less. These guys are going to encourage more illegal immigrant to make sure UMNO Sabah and Sarawak control them not their indigenous party.

  114. #114 by chinymin on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 8:52 am

    Racial harmony must be maintained at all time to create a progressive Malaysia to move forward. Anyone found to be disrupting the harmony and goodwill of our country should be promptly reprimanded and disciplined by the appropriate authorities. The present ruling Government is seen too weak and laggard in this aspect. AAB should tarry no more and take severe disciplinary action TODAY on AI for creating the chaos facing Malaysia now before it is too late.

  115. #115 by taiking on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:05 am

    Star Online today, Sept 9, 2008:

    “Gerakan should leave the Barisan Nasional ruling coalition … Bukit Bendera Umno division chief Datuk Ahmad Ismail said.”

    “Ketuanan” drama being played out, this is, isnt it? You see, once a tuan, always a tuan. And small tuan is also good as a tuan. Small tuan, big tuan they all have authority to dispel any hamba they dislike.

    So here we have a small UMNO fry telling gerakan hamba to get out. See how arrogant he is with his ketuanan authority and how arrogant UMNO is.

    Perhaps what is worse is PM didnt want to say this himself. He decided to inflict maximum embarassment upon gerakan hamba by leaving that job to that small fry. The idea is to reduce gerakan hamba to a suitably minute size.

    I wonder why the now very small koh tsu khoon still needed time to deliberate whether or not to leave bn. They should hv left 22 years ago. So too should mca and mic and all the other non-malay parties.

    UMNOPUTRAS are nep-dependant. And after a while, mca, mic and the rest became UMNO-dependant. That idiot knew this dependancy thingy. He knew very well that eventhough only a small fry, he as small tuan could still tell mca, mic and gerakan to buzz off with impunity.

    So yeh, leaving may not make good sense now. Its way too late. If salvaging oneself and one’s dignity is the desire, then I agree absolutely with k1980, lets harakiri. And may God bless their souls.

  116. #116 by daryl on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:14 am

    The only race that Ahmad insulted is Malay. Malay need a better leader than that to bring them to the next level of the world stage. If Malay follow Ahmad they might just as well turn back the clock to 1960 because that is he will lead them to.

    If I am business dealing with this guy I will stop all my work and pull out of any deal I have with him.

  117. #117 by AnakSarawak on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:21 am

    To Malaysian of ALL races, beware of this Ahmad Ismail! He is trying to make the matter worst by adding in Islam! Talk to the Malay friends around you, tell them not to fall into his trap!

    Shame on him! Religion issue has NOTHING got to do with him. He is sinful to create such a mess in this holy month of RAMADAN!

  118. #118 by baochingtian on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 9:27 am

    Not sure if Ahmad is a leader, can’t see globally. The world is not having Malays only. Ahmad is likened to a person sets up fire in the forest and blames others for the haze! Irresponsible !

  119. #119 by blablowbla on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:16 am

    to nazri of prime ministerial department,use your loudest voice to shoot admad ismail down:”bodoh!bodoh!bodoh!”

    and the kojak home minister,wat are you waiting for?waiting for 513 to burst?put him behind bar,he is 100 times more dangerous than hindrafs!

    and to the PM,i think he can continue snoozing…….!hopeless idiot!

  120. #120 by blablowbla on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:30 am

    bodoh punya ahmad ismail,yg pandai memutar-belitkan cerita adalah berita harian dan utusan!!!!!tv3 juga tidak kurang hebat!!!!!!

    dulu,bagaimana mereka siarkan berita2 mengenai isu2 babi,isu bar council dan sebagainya!

    kedudukan melayu walaupun lepas tsunami308,sedikit pun tak tergugat,bahkan,meningkat!lihat MP di parlimen,lihat MB di seluruh negeri,menteri2 penting,pengarah kementerian kerajaan,IGB,CJ,Chanselor,KSU,semua masih dipegang oleh melayu!!!!!!

    you kata bohong,penipu jahat!!!you ada motif!!!!

  121. #121 by ktteokt on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:37 am

    AAB, where is your ISA? Is Ahmad immune to ISA??????

  122. #122 by ktteokt on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:38 am

    Or is it that Encik ISA has gone to Taiwan on the study tour with the other BN MPs?

  123. #123 by laufuzhe28 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 10:50 am

    I support kt-56’s comments, quote “Time to give this issue a break. To carry on harping on the issue will only play into the hands of those who wish to destroy all progress made thus far towards non-communal politics.
    It is good for PKR to come up with a statement signed by all the leaders. Now it is time to cool things down.
    No big deal if we are called immigrants by one who is irrational with emotion. Let us peace loving Malaysians act with dignity and ignore him and others who may subsequently come out to stoke the fire.
    Be resolute and steer us towards what truly matters right now … ;)” unquote

    Let’s ignore Ahmad Ismail. Let those quarrels be between the BN components and internal!
    I suggest that members of PR should just leave it as is since the joint statement issued is very clear.
    Moreover, the issue is now a police case and let’s sit back and observe what’s the advice that the AG will provide to the police. Let’s see if they act without fear &/or favour. This would be the best test for the judiciary and executives.

  124. #124 by Mr Tan. on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:06 am

    Just because Malays Immigrated to Malaysia earlier then the Chinese and Indians, that doen’t gave them the rights to have special previlage and rights in Malaysia.
    These Malay Special rights are created by the UMNO selfish leaders like : Mahathir.
    They have cheated the Chinese and Indians to give them these rights so that they can catch-up the Malay poor economy status and now they want it permanent.
    All citizens whether Malay, Chinese and Indians pay the same amount of tax when they buy Macdonald or pay income tax.
    All humans live in only one world. the whole world knows this centuries ago and only the UMNO selfish fools are still making a fool out of their own kind by bullying the minority.

  125. #125 by k1980 on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 11:15 am

    Just as muslim ladies could be legally divorced by sms from their husbands, the 50 MPs can cross over to PR by sms-ing the Speaker Pandikar Amin on 916.

  126. #126 by zak_hammaad on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 4:22 pm

    When the opposition did very well in the 2008 elections, foreign observers talk about a wind of change in Malaysia; about how racialism had been rejected, how Anwar, their favourite would soon take over the Government.

    I had differed from these casual observers because I know that it was not rejection of racial politics which helped the opposition. It was simply disgust on the part of members of UMNO, MCA and Gerakan of the Premiership and leadership of Dato Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi. Talking on the ground, this was quite obvious.

    Far from the opposition’s “win” being brought about by rejection of racial politics, it has actually enhanced racial politics. We talk more about race and racial interest than we did in the last 50 years.

    The Malays are feeling the loss of their political base and the Chinese and Indians appear to be glorifying in the new political clout. As a result, subjects which we before regarded as sacrosanct are now brought up and made to be entirely in favour of the Malays.

    Against this unfamiliar attack against them, the Malays are unable to counter. Their leaders have deserted them. In their frustration they tend to become abusive.

    [from chedet]

  127. #127 by Lim Kher Kah on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 5:47 pm

    jika benar perlembagaan dijunjung dan dihormati maka mulai sekarang sepatutnya DAP yang memperjuangkan Malaysian Malaysia bertegas agar penggunaan bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa Kebangsaan, sekolah kebangsaan dan sekolah menengah kebangsaan ialah satu-satunya aliran sekolah yang menjadi usaha perpaduan dan lain-lain lagi yang diperuntukkan oleh perlembagaan persekutuan. mulakan laman sesawang, blog dan media yang menjadi ‘kesukaan’ ramai dengan menggunakan bahasa Melayu. kita lihat lim kit siang sebagai contoh!

  128. #128 by katdog on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 - 8:30 pm

    “We talk more about race and racial interest than we did in the last 50 years” – chedet

    Ha ha! This is true only for those living surrounded by sycophants. Racial tension had always been there and growing as the years passed. Only difference was back then it was only spoken of in the coffee shops and homes.

    Now the only difference is the local mainstream media is openly reporting racist remarks and playing up racial issues. one wonders why eh?

  129. #129 by aries66 on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:00 am

    Ahmad is very stubborn !!. Even our PM & Deputy is apologising on
    his behalf, he still not understanding. Really stupid and arrogant attitude. Let’s see if any stern action taken on his fellow tommorow….. ???.

  130. #130 by sirrganass on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 1:38 am

    Let’s understand that if there happen to be any kind of racial clash in our country, take note that it is because of Ahmad Ismail and the Malays in UMNO (Penang).

    You understand that the Malays in PAS and PKR and DAP are NOT giving you this problem. Yes, the Malays are DIVIDED now. One belongs to UMNO and the rest belongs to Pakatan Rakyat. Get it? visit Era Kegemilangan PR

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