Building of Ong MCA political empire at the expense of MCA leaders, Ministers and MPs

(Media Conference Statement (3) at DAP Ipoh Timur Ops Centre on Thursday 29th February 2008 at 1 pm)

I take great offence at the highly defamatory allegation by MCA President, Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting hurled at DAP leaders that they are greedy and selfish in contesting in two seats, parliamentary and state assembly, as wanting to collect two allowances of Member of Parliament and State Assemblyman.

DAP leaders are very different from MCA leaders including Ka Ting. DAP leaders are in politics not for self gain, wealth, position or government position but for our ideals and principles, and love for our country.

DAP MPs and State Assembly members do not get the constituency development allocations which have now mushroomed to RM5 million per parliamentary constituency for Barisan Nasional MPs –the most blatant example of discriminatory and unaccountable disbursement of public funds, money politics and the root cause of the rampant corruption in the country as it is open knowledge that there are BN MPs and State Assembly members who demand a “cut” for themselves before allocations are made to the public from the constituency development funds.

DAP leaders who are fielded in both parliamentary and state assembly constituencies will have to bear a heavy political responsibility – not to get more allowances but to play a greater role in the larger national objective to strive for a more just and democratic Malaysia.

DAP Secretary-General, Lim Guan Eng, for instance, who is contesting both parliamentary and state assembly seats in Penang, is not in these two contests for the allowances or he would not have stood up on his convictions ten years ago to defend the dignity of an under-aged Malay girl resulting in his conviction under unfair and draconian laws of Sedition Act and Printing Presses and Publications Act, leading to his disqualification as elected MP for Kota Melaka, being jailed for 18 months in Kajang Prison, forfeit of his parliamentary pensions and being disqualified from standing for elective office for five years after his release from prison.- missing two general elections.

Guan Eng had also been detained under the Internal Security Act in the 1987 Operation Lalang dragnet – with both of us among the first to be detained but the last two of the Operation Lalang detainees to be released in April 1989.

It is highly presumptuous and intolerable for a politician, who could climb so high up the political ladder as to become a Cabinet Minister without having to make any personal sacrifices whatever in his political life, to cast aspersions against political leaders who have paid a very high price in terms of personal liberty for their political convictions.

DAP Perak Chairman, Ngeh Koo Ham, who is contesting both Bruas parliamentary and Sitiawan state assembly seat, is not in politics for the money!

I can vouch that Ngeh has given to the cause for a Malaysian Malaysia far more than he had received as Perak State Assemblyman for the past four years.

Can Ka Ting say that he had personally given more in terms of money in politics than he had received from his parliamentary and Ministerial allowances as in the case of Ngeh?

I deplore Ka Ting for such mischievous, malicious and irresponsible politicking. He should have the decency and humility to openly apologise for his misconduct.

While making baseless accusations against DAP leaders, Ka Ting should heed the rumble of discontent in MCA at his building up of a Ong Brothers political empire in the MCA over the bodies of MCA leaders, including Ministers and parliamentarians.

Two MCA Ministers had recently fallen by the wayside – Chan Kong Choy and Chua Soi Lek. Who is really responsible for their downfall?

Chan must be held responsible for the RM4.6 billion Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ) scandal, the biggest financial scandal in the Abdullah premiership which is even bigger than Mahathir’s first mega financial scandal, the RM2.5 billion Bumiputra Malaysia Finance scandal 25 years ago!

Chan cannot escape accountability for the RM4.6 billion PKFZ scandal, but it is unfair if he is alone left to “eat dead cat” as the entire Cabinet, including Ka Ting, cannot shirk responsibility as well.

Is it true that Ka Ting is the reason why Chan dropped as a MCA candidate in the 2008 general election?

Who was responsible for the political “killing” of MCA National Vice Chairman and Health Minister, Datuk Seri Dr. Chua Soi Lek over the sex videotape scandal?

This is not an outside job but a MCA high-level operation. Was Ka Ting responsible for Chua’s removal from the MCA front-line of contenders for the top political post in MCA?

Be that as it may, Ka Ting should not try to distract attention from his MCA troubles by hurling defamatory allegations against DAP leaders.

  1. #1 by zack on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:09 pm

    Why are talking about the Ongs? We want to hear how the DAP, PKR and PAS are going share power in govt. if they won this coming election?

  2. #2 by chisinau on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:10 pm

    Should be Chan Kong Choy.

  3. #3 by observer on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:15 pm

    Needless to say, this OKT had nothing to say to the public except petty things, How are you going to rated this Top dog of MCA. Incompetent to fight for the rights of Malaysian except to siphon of sweat and hard earn money of the Rakyat. Do you still believe HIM?

  4. #4 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:29 pm

    “I take great offence at the highly defamatory allegation by MCA President, Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting hurled at DAP leaders that they are greedy and selfish in contesting in two seats, parliamentary and state ….” KIT

    Isn’t it not the constitutional right of the political party to field candidates for whatever seats it chooses? If that is called being “greedy” and “selfish” then let it be “greedy” and “selfish”. If he is concerned about greed ( i.e. greed for the spoils of political office), then he shoud direct MCA incumbents to step down and give way to contestants from the opposition.

  5. #5 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:30 pm

    After all they have had their share. It is time for the others.

  6. #6 by fjjs on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:31 pm

    OKT only have the courage to bark at DAP without logic and common sense. Does OKT or MCA dare to make any noise to UMNO regarding the plights of the community?? They will just nod their head and follow what UMNO decides. Believe OKT or MCA say is a vote for UMNO and we poor citizens will suffer more and more.

    Look at Gerakan, they have to propose to UMNO to decide who should be the next CM of Penang. They do not have the power to decide on their own. How do we expect them to fight for our rights.
    A vote for Gerakan is also a vote to UMNO.

    Even MIC…… their own community is going against their leader SV…why? because he cannot do anything for the community but know how to say YES to UMNO only.

    Come this March 8th 2008 , think carefully before you cast your vote….VOTE FOR CHANGE for a better tomorrow for all Malaysians.

  7. #7 by oknyua on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:35 pm

    I am definitely disappointed with a MCA Party Prsident and a Chinese Federal Minister for such nonsensical comments. What has a Chinese got to gain by being a member of an opposition party, dummy? If I want to be rich I’ll join as member of a BN component party, and if I am never a candidate, I would have gained millions from favourable treatment in my business. I have been in business for 19 years and damn it, I know what I have been against within that period.

    YB Lim KS, I prefer you don’t answer such degrading accusation but sometimes such comment really made me boil.

  8. #8 by ktteokt on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:36 pm

    Dogs will always remain dogs, toothless ones that is! These UMNO dogs will just wag their tails when their masters throw them a bone! What else can they do for the people, not to mention for the Chinese in Malaysia? They have sucked every drop of blood from the Chinese community and they still want to claim they represent the Chinese in Malaysia. They have thick skin!!!!

    And at every election, they bring out the same stories over and over again. Their limits are really limited, only on Chinese education, threaten the Chinese with May 13 and petty issues of no importance. Do they dare tell the Chinese they will stand against UMNO to repeal the NEP? I am waiting for such a day. Dog, good dog!

  9. #9 by alancheah on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:36 pm

    They just simply create certain new issues to
    divert people’s attention from those real facts
    being pointed out by opposition parties.

  10. #10 by lopez on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:47 pm

    hurray okt implies he doesnt want any salary, perks, favours, alms,
    lunches, dinner, food offerings, hamburgers, hampers and alike if he is reelected.
    What a relief, all mca should follow their leader by example.

    Now we can have some savings for the nation, we can have more if he sells his village house for the old folks nearby.

    “in god we trust all others please pay cash” that includes okt,
    errr sorry , boss your order is you want kuai tiew with and deep deep fried char siew poke in the back-ah, please pay first at the counter your meal will be serve.

    who doesnt need money to survive, and why is he jealous about others in getting more entitlement , he also can do the same no body can stop him – what, errr…. except his master.

  11. #11 by boh-liao on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:50 pm

    Did this running-dog OKT dare to bark at AAB: Why are you so greedy holding on to 3 Cabinet posts, when you are sleeping even on one job?

    MCA = Manapun Ciak All and its party members are only interested in sapu-ing $$, more $$.

    Visit and see greedy MCA gold-diggers grabbing gold nuggets!

  12. #12 by Godson on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:50 pm

    come on OKT. Are you trying to refer to BN UMNO Bodohwi who is sleeping with a few posts ? May be you are trying to slap bodohwi by using DAP as an excuse. I hope you this is true. May be bodohwi should thing that this is for him, sleeping and sucking with a few posts. Well said OKT.


  13. #13 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:54 pm

    So if DAP leaders contest in two seat is considered greedy, What is Chan Kong Choy? God of greed?

    Take care of your own house before you come and talk about others! Chan Kong Choy is a disgrace to the Chinese Community.

    At least Dr. Chua Soi Lek is gentleman enough saying, yes I am the one! How about you Kong Choy? Look down on you man!

  14. #14 by Loh on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 7:54 pm

    ///the highly defamatory allegation by MCA President, Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting hurled at DAP leaders that they are greedy and selfish in contesting in two seats, parliamentary and state assembly, as wanting to collect two allowances of Member of Parliament and State Assemblyman.///

    A person speaks his mind.; and the statement is a result of his thought. Ong ka Ting understands only the value called money, and hence he naturally connects position of MP to allowances. He knows nothing about the purpose of being a representative in a democracy, and to him a position is an employment, and having been in MCA politics, he equates position to making easy money better termed as corruption. It shows that money was the only thought in his mind when he decided to be a member of MCA. To him the reason why he offered himself first as the bag-carrier of Lim Leong Sik was to get to be near the position of power, to collect crumbs falling out of any deals the former MCA chief were engaged in. Since money is his pride, he was willing to be insulted when as a minister, and as President of MCA at that, to withdraw a memorandum which he considered proper to submit to PM AAB. In addition to collecting money, he occasionally took the opportunity to demonstrate that he was aware of the happenings in the country. On the memorandum episode, he thought it proper to submit a memorandum, since as would be expected, he was not articulate in the open meeting. Granted that it was his birth defects not of his choice for being slow in words, he should have bowed out of the position as the president as MCA. But because he is greedy for allowances and salary and other ‘power-sharing ‘ opportunities to make his family rich, he chose to stick to the position which he is ill equipped. Yes, his incapacity is not his choice, but certainly having submitted a memorandum, he have the choice to stick with it. He chose to withdraw the memorandum because he was to prove to PM AAB that he is a lapdog of AAB.

    OKT showed AAB that for his greed of money that comes with the position as President of MCA and minister, he has sold the honour of his family, and as president of MCA, he is a disgrace to the Chinese. While OKT himself is greedy, he believed that all persons thought like him. It might be true of people within MCA, but it certainly is not true among members of the opposition parties, except those who refused to turn up at the nomination day.

    When money is the only thought in OKT’s mind, he considered a few millions riggit handout to Chinese schools from hundreds of billion in budget are big deal for the Chinese community. He had also been sold by NEP that some corruption money sharing iamong MCA leaders are for the good of Chinese community. It is because of these selfish politicians which chose to remain in collusion with UMNO opportunists that race politics is alive and kicking in the country. How do we curse MCA for not separating from BN, and be a true NGO for self help to the Chinese communities? Because of MCA, the Chinese are said to be happy to be discriminated. Otherwise, why had MCA remained with BN when NEP was not terminated in 1990. Why has MCA not left the government when AAB announce the continuation of NEP till 2020, for the present.

    Shame on you, MCA.

  15. #15 by Jonny on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:01 pm

    We should all be ashame of ourselves.

    MCA people should think twice before point their finger outwards.

    How many of ourselves are willing to take the route of Lim Kit Siang, Lim Guan Eng, Dato’ Seri Anwar?

    Be jailed, sacrifice the health, family, relationships, income from jobs?

    How many of us are willing to do that? Do they earn millions or billions? Even PAS’ spiritual leader leaves in a modest house unlike our Zakaria Istana.

    Very obscene flaunting of wealth.

  16. #16 by boh-liao on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:07 pm

    OMG, that’s all MCA candidates can do prior to the polling date!

    So confident they will win on 8.3.08 that they are now busy singing karaoke songs (Lim Kee Moi, the “Karaoke YB”), grabbing gold nuggets, parading national badminton players who happen to be MCA members, and feeding people. Jolly good time, throwing easy money around! Easy come, easy go.


  17. #17 by Loyal Malaysian on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:14 pm

    If the MCA members allows Ka Ting to build his political empire, it is their privilege. I can understand the difficulty that DAP faces to get credible candidates to stand in the elections. Which is why it is very important the opposition constituencies are serviced properly. No doubt parlimentary sittings are important but the constituents must not be neglected. So if any candidate is to win both state and parliment contests, effort must be undertaken to have the constituencies properly serviced.

  18. #18 by roger668 on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:19 pm

    I agree totally with Kit Siang. I truely honour & have great respect for you fighting for the Chinese community against the MCA. I pass by the MCA building today in Jalan Ampang, all I see was luxury cars i.e X5, XC90 Estima used for campaigning in the coming elections. What does this proofs ? Either theseMCA candidates are highly paid (which I doubt) or of course “makan” so much from the taxpayers money until they do not have a chance to be poor ever.


  19. #19 by vincent on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:23 pm

    I will never going to vote for these dogs called mca and gerakan because sooner a later our race will become third citizen here.Think carefully about your future children what will be next if you voted these creatures.

  20. #20 by Lat Gao on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:23 pm

    if u wanna get rich in this country, but yet u know u are stupid, there is always a hope for u ! join UMNO, MCA, DAP, MIC and learn to bodek your boss kao kao, do whatever is told, lies to your own community, then u’ll have an easy life in this wonderful land of Malaysia.

    but if u are somebody who live for the truth, pride and dignity, dare to speak the truth for the ppl u represent, treat lies as the deepest sins a human can ever commit, sorry to said that, DAP is the only one for u, but your life will be miserable and pathetic throughout the whole course of speaking the truth and defending the ppl u represent, not to mention that u might get jail and be lock up without any course, ok !

    if somebody is willing to go through all those suffering just to speak the truth, i’m deeply touch by the act ! DAP’s comrades u the man ! u have my utmost respect and my vote !

    To those BN’s slapdog, u are the reason of our suffering of all races ! shame on you ! malu ! pui !

  21. #21 by skyquest2000 on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:24 pm

    Everybody is now building empire. Father and son, husband and wife, brothers and sisters. Dynasty is shaping up in Asian politics.

  22. #22 by Ryan-W on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:29 pm

    MCA is feeling the heat so much that it is taking a very defensive and desperate approach in putting up advertisements in the mainstream media daily. This gives me an excuse to boycott the Star which make one puke with the so called “positive” news of BN.

  23. #23 by Wisdom above on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:43 pm

    Thursday, February 28, 2008
    Friday Deadline! (Polling & Counting Agents)

    Is this up on Malaysia Today & Malaysiakini? These guys really play dirty! They even tried to bring down PKR websites. Wonder if they would attack PAS & DAP websites next?!


    Once again from YB Eli, sounds like EC suddenly put a new deadline for PACAs, this Friday!!

    It’s a tight race, and they’re trying their darndest to make it hard for us.

    All our campaign work goes to naught if on polling day there isn’t anything to stop the counter from declaring every opposition vote a ‘barisan’ vote and putting it into the wrong pile.

    That’s where YOU come in :)

    We’re working on ways to funnel PACA’s to candidates who need them. Just leave a comment with your e-mail and phone number here for starters!

    Be a part of a better Malaysia, bring about the new dawn we need so badly.

    from elizabeth wong:

    Original post here.

    Last night, we were informed that Polling and Counting Agents have to have their names, IC numbers in by this FRIDAY! Ah, satu lagi keputusan petir SPR….

    We need a couple of hundred people who are willing to sacrifice just one day on March 8, to help ensure there won’t be any cheats or ghostly voters.

    Please write to: if you wish to help!

  24. #24 by chiakchua on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:58 pm

    Well, OKT is talking nuts! He can’t even manage his ministry properly! Majlis Perbandaran (under his care) everywhere always look for busy business area in major towns, which is always non-Malay area, identified a place, built retail shop lots for ‘crony’ Bumiputra businessmen, upset the traffic in that area, making things difficult for those existing non-Malay businesses. And there is no where these people can turn to because the officers don’t give a damn to non-Malays complaint.
    Come on, OKT, please don’t keep lying! You’re just lucky to be there because of your apple polishing kongfu with LLS!

  25. #25 by BoycottLocalPapers on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 8:59 pm

    WHY DAPVIDEO AT YOUTUBE is so slow in uploading DAP ceramahs? Aren’t there anyone filming the DAP ceramah? I believe DAP can do better in this area.

  26. #26 by bennylohstocks on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 9:08 pm

  27. #27 by cmbss on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 9:12 pm

    OKT “kill” Chua Soi Lek and Chan Kong Choy to make may for his brother, Ong Ka Chuan.

    If OKT is brave, put Ong Ka Chuan back in Batu Gajah lah!!

    This is what Chua Soi Lek said when he resign, “healthy politic by OKT”

    Chan Kong Choy also no worry lah, cukup kenyang itu PKFZ ~ RM4.6 billion. Kalau kira 10 % pun cukup untuk 50 generasi!!

  28. #28 by cmbss on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 9:13 pm

    To BoycottLocalPapers

  29. #29 by dap-for-pj on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 9:18 pm


  30. #30 by toyolbuster on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 9:21 pm

    This shameless “chow kow” or running dog can lead a whole bunch of chinese running dogs, bribe them all immensely with our tax-money, and he can shamelessly accuse LKS and co. of being greedy. Don’t we all know that it is so easy to get rich in malaysia, even if you are a dungoo like “close-1-eye”, zzzzz-zam, and the self proclaimed minister of judges. I mean, they are so [deleted] STOOPID, yet they can be minister. But thats the yellow brick road to eternal wealth, just join BN, any party would do. You see how Kaeveas got kicked around like sepak takraw. Still, he is deeply in love with Abdullah Badawi,. So, you can understand why the chinese hate this running dog Kating so much.

  31. #31 by dap-for-pj on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 9:21 pm


  32. #32 by sani on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 9:31 pm

    Dear fellow Malaysian

    Had been going to many DAP ceramahs this few days / nights… cheer our Rocket boys + girls lah. From Tony Pua to Dr Tan Seng Giaw…….. Last nite was Gobind / Teresa Kok at Puchong + later Hannah Yeoh at SS18.

    All ceramahs well well attended. The Crowd was really huge on Tony’s SS2 but the Rakyats’ voice must be heard all the way from Subang (Hannah’s) to Shah Alam……….JOM UBAH!!!


  33. #33 by Cannottahan on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 9:32 pm

    An about to extinct breed of dog’s….Malay Chinese Dog!! woof,woof

  34. #34 by Cannottahan on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 9:33 pm

    It should be more precise to be known as “Malay Chinese Anjing”

  35. #35 by KanNinNeh on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 9:49 pm

    OKT is good at licking UMNO for his on benefit only, he can’t even fight for Chinese Basic Rights, in Alor Star, we have a Chinese Primary School whereby the Parents have to pay at least RM100 to buy their own Chairs and Tables for their kids to study in the school !

  36. #36 by YF on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 10:18 pm

    For the bodyguard issue , this president of MCA ( money come association ) have no right to said , why????
    1- After90an non bumi loss in finance sector.( can you see kwong yik bank, hock hua bank and others )
    2- After90an loss again in public transportation ( under MCA port folio )can you see ho hup , tong fong and others sure you sadi no.
    3- After forming of bernas , non bumi rice wholer again loss . Now what happen to the rice price.
    4- After 90an non bumi can’t fulfill the basic role under DEB and can’t goverment tender .
    5- Last umno general meeting have point out that non bumi are control the supply chain ( by the son in-law of PM ) sure after this general election the will…………..
    6- Under this bodyguard ministry , again can said we suffer in paying interest for the different price between bumi and non bumi ( biscount ) if yes why this”’ can happen””Can you imaging how many money we have to paid for the different price of 7-10% of 300k. Who can answer for this , where the bank officer go please answer….
    7- the issue of 19 new SRJKC , from where the fund ( vitamin M )come from ??? goverment????? MCA????? if yes please 100%.
    8- MCA aways said the protect SRJKC how hard the work for it……. But we chinese community fill hard to contribute now because ”wan sek kan nan, tahn cheuk gan koh,…..”

  37. #37 by Wisdom above on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 10:26 pm

    No compromise between right and evil
    Thomas Cranmer | Feb 28, 08 2:53pm

    Politics is an arena in which personal convictions and public service intermingle like no other;…….

    Vote with “Wisdom from Above “.

    Vote for Change.

    Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.

  38. #38 by Justicewanted on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 10:29 pm

    Ong Ka Ting is planning for his brother Ong Ka Chuan to take over MCA when his term is over.

    Isn’t it obvious?

    Both CKC and CSL are pain in the neck.

  39. #39 by Tantech on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 10:40 pm

    OKT and team are not representing the chinese. They only bowed down to the big bully of UMNO. If we give them a mandate, we will vomit blood in the next 5 years. Yes they received more from the govt than they gave out.

  40. #40 by YF on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 10:57 pm

    you vote to BN for the below development:
    1-new toll
    2-toll increase
    3-cukai pintu dan tanah naik
    4-tnb and water nak
    5-barangan sundry naik
    6-new built schooll and hospital with high construction cost
    7-petrol naik
    because BN= harga barang naik

  41. #41 by Short-sleeve on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 11:02 pm

    Ong Ka Ting and his MCA are a bunch of running dogs. They sold out the chinese. Ong Ka Ting is just a spineless eunuch.

    He is nowhere near LKS.

  42. #42 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 11:31 pm

  43. #43 by Menang atau mati on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 11:42 pm


    Really who is greedy?

    Ong Kah Ting was reported to have come from a poor family if I am not mistaken.

    Ask him to derclare his assets and income when he first joined politics (A) and also to declare his assets and income now (B).

    A – B =$$$$$$$

    So who is greedy?

    The RAKYAT do not feel that the DAP candidates who stand in both state and parliamentary seats are greedy.

    Let the RAKYAT decide.

    I believe that this election will show again that the MCA and Gerakan have lost their mandate and moral right to claim themselves as the party to represent the non-malays especially the Chinese.

    But, they will be kept in the cabinet by their UMNO taiko to be their running dogs and show how fair UMNO is.However, to keep their positions ,they will have to be the obedient running dogs.

    So how can they voice out the concerns of the RAKYAT?

  44. #44 by Rocky on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 11:43 pm

    OKT should preach to his components party way before he can talk about opposition.

    Koh Tsu Koon has been standing for both state and parliament seat for some time except this election.Sarawak and Sbah BN has many people standing for 2 seats. So OKT talk to them first. and most of the time this guys are not full time politician cos they are chasing contracts.

    Get your own BN house in order OKT cos you just meludah ke langit and it fell right back on your face. malulah

  45. #45 by acex on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 11:48 pm

    Here is my voice out, there is a 8 addresses issue by DAP but I just again the option No 2, which stimulus plan for RM 40 billion to distribute.
    What I say by short term, yes we all Chinese will have some gain but when you touch to long run there is not. Please use your mind to think if you are the fund manager or invester what would you do if you have RM 40 billion in hand.
    If you use that money for investment I believe it can help generate more then you expected and it help for the country also.
    Just my 2cents, actually I really not like LKS leadership, as I don’t even see he have the capable to bring DAP into higher ground.
    No doubt there is so many negative influence I will still vote for the DAP.
    You have my count.

  46. #46 by limkamput on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 11:51 pm

    How dare you Ka Ting for accusing DAP contestants for being greedy. The raison d’etre of MCA is greed. So, for goodness sake please don’t insult the Chinese of this country. You and your party are despicable. What has MCA contributed the last fifty years other than our continued erosion as equal citizens of this country? What has MCA leadership done other than colluding at the expense of Chinese dignity and equal representation in the Government? What has the MCA leadership concerned with other than longing for some scum to be thrown at them?
    This nation should have been a nation based on equal citizenship if not for your party’s betrayal and collusion with UMNO to exclude the progressive ideals and intent of PAP when Singapore was part of Malaysia. Please don’t forget, some of us can still remember what MCA leadership said about PAP when PAP was fighting for its life during the last hours in Malaysia. This nation would have been a nation where every community, including the Malays, was able to feel proud and self assured of its future if not for the third world tribal leadership like MCA and those in UMNO.
    Look, Ka Ting, you have no moral decency to lecture on greed. MCA and other BN parties are the epitome of that. If you can’t fight for our rights, let others who are willing (including those sacrificing their personal liberty) to do so. Time is running out. So just SHUT THAT STUPID MOUTH OF YOURS, KA TING.

  47. #47 by mycroft on Thursday, 28 February 2008 - 11:52 pm

    Aiyoh, the MIC ad isn’t threatening anyone, people should learn how to read the small print. Bunch of lies though. Their argument seems to be “we’ve failed for 50 years, so please vote for us, so we can continue to fail”

  48. #48 by aiD_kamikuP on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:03 am

    Wow, this has really touched the raw nerves of DAP supporters. May be the only safe haven for OngKT is not anywhere nearer than Timbuktu or Tierra del Fuego.

  49. #49 by ppsbmy on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:05 am

    how about Abdullah Badawi? He’s very very greedy. he was the PM, the finance minister & internal security minister. can he handle all his resposibility well? i bet not!

    how come Ong Ka Ting doesn’t dare to criticise him?

  50. #50 by Come2Papa on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:13 am

    Hello! limkamput!

    Stop shouting!! It is not like anybody can hear you. It is not like OKT visits this blog to read your postings!

  51. #51 by Come2Papa on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:17 am

    “So, for goodness sake please don’t insult the Chinese of this country.” limkamput

    Shouldn’t you be saying, “…don’t insult us” rather than “the Chinese of this country”. Why use third party plural??

  52. #52 by limkamput on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:30 am

    Yes, papi chai, you are one of OKT’s mah chai, so you are reading what I wrote. That is very good, have you reported to him yet.

    papi chai says: Shouldn’t you be saying, “…don’t insult us” rather than “the Chinese of this country”. Why use third party plural??

    Because MCA represents the Chinese in BN. Of course, this obviously excludes you. Nobody wants you, including the rotten eggs in BN. Imagine how stinking you are!!!

  53. #53 by burn on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:31 am

    OKT betul betul a real sore loser…
    dia ingat, rakyat ni takdo mato, takdo telingo…
    we can see what’s happening around us everyday, one thing for sure, MCA and their BN components kakis memang tarak bolas…
    good at barking only, action tarak…

    when BN UMNO say sit! you sit!!! woof! woof! woof!
    when BN UMNO say, fetch! you fetch!!! woof! woof! woof!
    when BN UMNO say quiet! you quiet!!! woof! woof! woof!
    when BN UMNO say come here boy! ur saliva drops!!! woof! woof! woof!

    50yrs, we’ve been waiting!
    50yrs, we’re bein sideline, day by day!
    50yrs, we’re bein call a non-bumi malaysians!
    50yrs, we’ve bein playout!
    50yrs, is enough for us all to take this shit!
    all i want is fairness and equality to my family/generations and all bumi/non-bumi malaysians…

  54. #54 by alancheah on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:32 am

    mca’s annonying tv and paper ads will not affect
    many people this round. Many will vote for oppositions.

  55. #55 by choonchoy on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:32 am

    Mr. Ong,

    I for one would like to know why were you and the whole of the MCA was quiet when the MP of Jerai Hj Badriddin said in Parliament “ Malaysia ini negara Islam. You tak suka, you keluar dari Malaysia”. Is not the priority of an MP to serve, protect the rights of those he/she represents? If your answer is no, then what is your duty? If your answer is yes, then why not one of the MCA MPs voiced their discontent. (That is presuming that they were discontent.) YOUR SILENCE WAS DEAFENING.

  56. #56 by Jong on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:42 am

    MCA with Chan Kong Choy out of the way, it’s now Ong&Ong Sendirian Berhad lah. The chess game started some 3 years ago if anyone noticed that.

  57. #57 by Joshua Tan Kok Hauw on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:56 am

    OKT’s remarks show how shallow his mind is. He is the best example of ‘first world infrastructure,third world mentality.’

    Why didn’t he attack UMNO which also puts some of its candidates to lust for both the parliamentary and SA seats ?

    A Malay word ‘terdesak’ is the best description of his situation now.

    He knows not champion the cause of the people. He never suffers politically.

    Who are greedy? The elites of BN. Who has despoiled of the wealth of the people.? The elites of BN. So, who are greedy?

  58. #58 by all ready on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:58 am

    Dear Caring Malaysians

    Before Election – Sweet-talk and everything roses by BN to fish your vote

    After Election – you suffer, BN propers.

    follow link to watch

  59. #59 by I Malaysian on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:13 am

    I received an anonymous sms, requesting all Malaysian Indians to ignore Dato Pradip Kumar, president of MAICCI’s call to reject all BN candidates in the coming general election. The sms also called him traitor while asking the PM to remove him from PEMUDAH.
    I have not checked the validity of the sms but if it’s true, my salute goes to Dato Pradip.

  60. #60 by lopez on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:31 am

    okt was discipline teacher in a school i was told, well person with legalist sentiments i supposed, but he cannot give respect to the very person who stick his neck out for the chinese community and the oppressed society members.

    What the hell he is barking about his tong bao.
    Assume position as representative of chinese malaysian, Talk about chinese and all things chinese but cannot respect a chinese leader and elder.

    the main stream chinese community has no need to punish him, his current master will do that for his ancestors.
    If he is feed up with his master, and wish to leave, someone help him begged the return of his beans bag else his mother will wept til no tears and he ‘ll be forever a eunuch in his after life.

    if he is sincere for chinese tong bao, he should take lead resign from the mca club, and return the clubship to his master. let his master have the empty house.
    He can purpose destroy his voting ticket on polling day and show it in the media for all to see if he is so righteous for the chinese tongbao.
    And if all his club members are so respectful and loyal to hsi leadership they may do so too, and for once for your own sake stop staying below the balance scale.

    Join the opposition and sincerely serve the people and make that change for our children.

    Vote for DAP.

  61. #61 by Jamesy on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:50 am

    “I take great offence at the highly defamatory allegation by MCA President, Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting hurled at DAP leaders that they are greedy and selfish in contesting in two seats, parliamentary and state assembly, as wanting to collect two allowances of Member of Parliament and State Assemblyman.”


    Pak Lah,

    I wondered whose character is being assassinated here……..

  62. #62 by dawsheng on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:51 am

    What is the status of Malaysian Chinese today? As far as I concern there is nothing that I can be proud of but more and more school dropouts, and youngsters are joning the rank of gangsters and drug addicts, so that’s is why MCA is also nothing to me. If I have a chance to meet Ong Ka Ting, I am going to give him a piece of my mind, and I hope god will forgives me if I lost control and slapped him twice on the face, left and right. Was there anything more we can say about this man?

  63. #63 by chench88 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:54 am

    OKT no brain, we no need to bother whatever he said.MCA did not have candidate contesting in two seats, parliamentary and state assembly cos’ they need more time to plan for compare to the allowances just a peanut to them.
    His brother OKC also blind,said that Kinta Valley no develop because of all parliment seat are won by DAP.In fact over past 20 years we can’t see much developing in Kinta Valley since MB Ramli dynasty, now Tajul Rosli also the same. All useless leadership,In fact whole Perak state economic progress very slow. Most of the people from Perak working in others state or in Singapore.
    People called Ipoh as “Dead City” now.OKC wake up mind!

  64. #64 by sani on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:57 am

    Dear friends

    MCA for Chinese rights, MIC for Indians right, UMNO for Malay rights…………cave man technology.

    DAP for a Malaysian Malaysia where Malaysian First is the only way. That’s rocket technology. The only way to go nowadays.

  65. #65 by dawsheng on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 2:05 am

    How many Malaysian Chinese has to leave their families, wifes and children to work in overseas? How many Malaysian Chinese now are in Singapore, how may of them are hard laborers? What is the future of all this Malaysian Chinese? How many poor Chinese are in Malaysia? Of the Chinese in Malaysia, how many more are gangsters, drug peddlers and addict, criminals?

  66. #66 by dawsheng on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 2:28 am

    “MCA and Umno are political parties of the same standing and seniority. The only people we play bodyguard to are the Malaysian Chinese.” Ong Ka Ting

    I would like to invite Ong Ka Ting to JB causeway and see for himself how Malaysian Chinese make a living, it starts as early as 4am. But lucky we have Singapore, very lucky indeed, so many don’t mind waking up at 4am and work in the factories. But Singapore is not our country, one day when they replaces the manpower with robots, what is the use of Malaysian Chinese?

    I think is ok Ong Ka Ting, Malaysian Chinese can take care of themselves.

  67. #67 by dawsheng on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 2:32 am

    I think DAP leaders in Johor is also so out of touch with the locals and migrants there. Uncle Kit, you should look into it. Change the leaders if you have to.

  68. #68 by showsomemercy on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:22 am

    Aiyoh, Ong Chow Ka aka Ong Ka Ting where will fight for Chinese community? As long as $$$ enters his pocket, to hell with Chinese people.

    I am pretty sure Ong Chow Ka is what he is today because he knows how to polish and $uck the right nuts to get or achieve such success!

    Ong Chow Ka has not gone the hardship YB Kit had gone through.

    Hey you all think Uncle Kit got nothing else better to do meh? Fight for the rights of Malaysians. Chiak Pa Siew Eng meh do such work?

    Is Uncle Kit highly Paid? No and he is still fighting for a better Malaysia and if the RAKYAT can’t see this good quality, then i would say you deserve to be what you are today and dont blame others for what you are today!!!

    Just a food of thought, imagine Uncle Kit is with BN now. You know how much $$$ he will be making? Just think for yourself!

    Why Uncle Kit is not with BN? He is fighting for all of US (Malaysians) for a better Malaysia!!!

    So please dont sleep anymore! Wake up from your Mat Jenin dreams! ! !

  69. #69 by on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 4:43 am

    Seems Ong Ka Ting is ran out of ideas to attack DAP.

    There is no law to ban a person to contest in state and parliament seats, what is the fuss?

  70. #70 by on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 4:48 am

    dawsheng Says:

    Today at 02: 32.50 (2 hours ago)
    I think DAP leaders in Johor is also so out of touch with the locals and migrants there. Uncle Kit, you should look into it. Change the leaders if you have to.


    YB Lim, Lee Lan Tye, Pathu, Lim Kok Wee, etc. did visit my kampung in Johor for a DAP branch opening ceremony in 80s.

    Unfortunately the branch is dead for many years.

  71. #71 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:32 am

    My God, Ong Ka Ting should take a long hard look at himself in the mirror before he opened that slimy mouth and spewed those foul words!

    Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the dirtiest of them all?

    Would Ka Ting ever have become a millionaire if he had remained as a schoolteacher scuttering around the basketball court in his shorts? OK, perhaps I am presumptuous. I am judging OKT is a millionaire just by observving his lifestyle. Perhaps, the slam-dunk reality is, many times over if we have access to his income tax records. So, OKT, let’s start at the beginning and with the first basic: do you deny that you became a millionaire because you were furstly a poilitician from MCA?

    Secondly, can you cite just one MCA poltician who has gone to jail because he fought for the rights of the peoplle? I can think of a few who have been charged with cheating the people and many more who stole from the people and let off the hook!

    Come, come, Ka Ting my boy, talk some sense as teachers often say, don’t talkkok.

  72. #72 by lakshy on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:44 am

    So is OKT also hitting at umno which has vying for 2 seats as being greedy?

  73. #73 by sotong on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 6:02 am

    Majority of non Malays does not rely on government assistance, handouts and welfare to make a living and raise a responsible family under a difficult and discriminative environment and worked very hard as INDIVIDUALS to contribute significantly to the economy and country.

    Their basic rights as hard working, responsible and resourceful citizens are neglected.

  74. #74 by sotong on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 6:22 am

    …….many are made to look for opportunity elsewhere or sent their kids overseas for a better future living their loved ones behind for fear of discrimination destroying their careers and lives and aggression, intimidation and may be violent from some politicians.

    No leader/s expressed their outrage at this gross discrimination destroying innocent lives and the totally unacceptable and dangerous behaviors of some politicians doing enormous permanent and long term damage to a multi racial and religious country.

  75. #75 by cemerlang on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 6:38 am

    Why is financial assistance given only right before elections for all the Chinese organizations and Chinese schools ? Why does Radio Television Malaysia give more priority to Indian related programmes after the Hindraf rally ? This shows that without people’s power, Chineses, Indians and all non Malays would not be cared for. When the MCA fights for the Chinese, it is with the blessing of UMNO. When the MIC fights for the Indians, it is with the blessing of UMNO. If UMNO does not bless, both MCA and MIC will be just white elephants. If UMNO declares Malaysia to be fully Islamised and Malayised, you can bet there will be MCA and MIC members fleeing Malaysia. At this rate Malaysians are going, we are all heading towards a kind of Malaysia that is something like Kelantan now, the Chinese Muslims in Northern China and Indian Muslims in India. Both MCA and MIC are giving way to UMNO without them recognizing it.

  76. #76 by democratic junkie on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 6:52 am

    Rembau is a great place to live if u want to reach 100 years…


    key in the IC numbers and see for yourself at

    if khairy gets elected, they can live up to 200 years…..

  77. #77 by malaysianboleh on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 7:01 am

    The PM announced that there is a guaranteed that the fuel price won’t be increase after BN big win in this election ! can we trust what he said?After what he promised the rakyat that there is no resolved of paliament ????

  78. #78 by democrate on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 7:53 am

    OKT, is there a rule to stop a candidate for contesting a Parliementary and Stae seat . if not , greediness is not exist. OKT should know MCA has been greedy for the last 50yrs to betray the Chinese communty hiding under the sarong of Umno .Let me remind OKT that MCA has no guts to confront the Umno knowing that they will loose their businesses and other licenses.
    So who is greedy?

  79. #79 by Wisdom above on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 8:31 am

    DAP ceramah without borders..

    A ‘ Dynamic Malaysia ‘ … equality for all… a better future…

    Vote for change.

    Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.

  80. #80 by Libra2 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 8:39 am

    In one ceramah Anwar Ibrahim brushed off Ong as a ‘small guy’ and “the weakest President MCA ever had.”
    He ridiculed him for not even able to stand up to Hishammudin’s threat against the Chinese with his keris. He crticised Ong for being subservient to UMNO.
    “I challenge him to debate with me. I give him 30 minutes and I take just 20 minutes”.
    He was responding to some allegations Ong had hurled against Anwar.

  81. #81 by chiakchua on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 8:59 am

    “Time is running out. So just SHUT THAT STUPID MOUTH OF YOURS, KA TING.” By limkamput

    Well advised! He’s good for nothing except apple polishing! What a pity for MCA members, having a boss like that, came in with a ‘diamond crown’, never gone through any hardship! Good actor, his only hardship which he is so proud of is riding bicycle in the new village. Por-lah, I rode 24km everyday to and fro to school when I was small!

    Its real big regret that MCA is filled with all apple polishers, waiting for their turn to get some rub from UMNO or hu-ha-hu-ha from Tai-Ko like L.H.Leong! Shame on present MCA!

  82. #82 by Toyol on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 8:59 am

    They are an embarrassment and traitors to the Chinese in Malaysia. It is principally because of them that we have lost our rights and opportunities. With them, who need enemies. Our rights will be taken away, with or without them.

  83. #83 by ktteokt on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 9:03 am

    The beginning of the “ONG DYNASTY” in MCA is taking shape with OKT pushing his brother up the heirarchy! So how many MCA members feel this is right? Will he be able to convince MCA members that he has done the right thing? Besides, his brother had lost in the last elections and is now seeking election in a “safe area”. If at all MCA members had opened their eyes, they can see what OKT is up to and should immediately flee MCA!!!!

  84. #84 by waterfrontcoolie on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 9:07 am

    YB., there is no need to talk about corruption amongst BN members, they ARE corruption. Every Federal minister will retire with millions if not billions in overseas banks. Declaration of personal assets is bull-shitting Just to bluff the kampong folks and those blinded chinamen who listen to MCA_GERAKAN bull shitting.
    I am sure many of the so-called Chinese leaders have enough assets overseas to qualify for PR in Australia, Canada, and what have you? Even ‘local’ players like Zakaria are worth millions and they won’t pay any tax! So if we still have A…H… who still vote for such shysters to represent them in the State Assemblies and Parliament, they deserve to ‘pay’ for it, and they should stop voicing their frustrations ever!!

  85. #85 by k1980 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 9:13 am

    Although Abdullah Badawi sought to consolidate his UMNO power base by attempting to put his own acolytes in place, dropping some old bulls from the battle, other attempts to drop state warlords have backfired. In the northern state of Perlis, supporters of the incumbent chief minister resigned en masse, locking up operations rooms and refusing to campaign for the party.

  86. #86 by Bigjoe on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 9:27 am

    All these political dynasty making is well so incesteous. All the money they make and they can’t find anything else worthwhile to do with their lives than in dirty world of politics AND resorting to nepotism.

    Its inbreeding.

    I noticed that a lof of MCA candidates have Dr. and Datuks in their titles. All these doctors don’t have anything else to do but dirty politics?


  87. #87 by Wisdom above on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 9:29 am

    DAP ceramahs without borders…

    A ‘ Dynamic Malaysia ‘ … equality for all… a better future…

    Vote for a New MALAYSIA.

    Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.

  88. #88 by sotong on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 9:48 am

    With most non Malays being independent and resourceful, the least the non Malay BN politicians could do is to protect their basic rights as citizens from gross discrimination, aggression, threat and intimidation from some dangerous politicians to their sense of security and well being, prevent religious fundamentalism and extremism, fight for a fair and healthy environment for their childrens to grow and contribute to the country and etc… but they have grossly neglected their responsibility to play their part in a multi racial and religious country.

  89. #89 by just n free on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 10:07 am

    Unscrupulous BN MPs out for gain – do anything, say anything just to win and make money. (some do work hard) but ultimately are puppets in Parliament (cannot vote with their own conscience).
    Jailed a hero (defending the dignity of an under-aged Malay girl) and set free the criminal – BN has plenty of style; past – Mahathir’s style – now we have Badawi/Khairy style.
    OKT is no different – give him a TKO in the GE.

  90. #90 by kcb on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 10:11 am

    “I take great offence at the highly defamatory allegation by MCA President, Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting hurled at DAP leaders that they are greedy and selfish in contesting in two seats, parliamentary and state assembly, as wanting to collect two allowances of Member of Parliament and State Assemblyman.”

    I could never imagine such statement coming out from any adult. DAP must have done a great job that OKT has to resort to this!!!

  91. #91 by kcb on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 10:13 am

    Sorry…such allegation coming out from any adult. ….

  92. #92 by NotProudToBeMalaysian on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 10:34 am

    Don’t experiment with your own future, says Abdullah!
    Seems that he doesn’t knows of what he is blabbering about.
    A liar is a liar and we want no liar to lead the country to destruction.
    We no longer want our monies to be thrown into space.
    We no longer want more crimes and more people getting hurt by those hammer wielding Mat Rempit.
    And we further do not want to be threatened by his boys any more.
    What more can he do to???
    Our Tunku will never allow that!
    Badawi is more or worse than the President Chen Shu Bian of Taiwan. Bring back the old Barisan but not the new one so for godsake, vote for the opposition, please!!!!

  93. #93 by cheng on soo on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 10:43 am

    UMNO, MCA, MIC, Gerakan etc, are not like the party founded by their earlier founders before 1969, all are very very corrupted money crazy nuts!
    Only morons, idiots, insane, masochist, crooks n psycho. sick would vote for them!

  94. #94 by NotProudToBeMalaysian on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 10:45 am

    Don’t be taken by the opposition promises, says Najib!
    Use your common sense, please!
    If the opposition were given more seats in the parliament and fully balance, the ruling goverment will no longer have the right to delay or stop issuing funds to them to serve the people.
    Unlike the barisan component parties, they’re given more than what they want but for the opposition mostly have to fork out their very own money to do that. Najib is too lucky already!
    Stop those hanky pankies and vote for more for the opposition this time around.
    The Barisan scale is tilted on the other side and we need to balance it after all these years.

  95. #95 by alan Sha on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 10:50 am

    the MCA President was almost forget most of his gang beside holding key post in respective party, they also a minister or perhaps few post in respectve ministry dept.. is this mean we shall ignore or NOT vote for such candiate??

    During his campaign in PJ, he ask us not to vote for candidate that not from the home ground, this seem he already forget he was contesting in a new Parlimentary, whereby he never live there,,, is this mean we shall vote him out?

  96. #96 by Menang atau mati on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:00 am

    Calling all :

    uncles, aunties ,ah pek ,keke ,titi ,mei mei ,chieh chieh ,abang ,adik , ah kong , datuks , Pak chiks , peng yeoh, length lui ,length chye , your girlfriends , boyfriends, your ex boyfriends, ex girlfriends , your godfather ,your godmother, your ex wife, your ex hubby, your grand chokong ,
    your insurance agent, your real estate agent, your car salesman , your last one night stand and all who care about the future of Malaysia;

    Call all of them to come out to vote fo our future generations for the future of Malaysia.

    It is “Now or Never”

    The word of mouth is more powerful than all the advertisements and propaganda the BN place in the media.

    Counter with the power of the word of mouth.

    Drag anybody you can to come out to vote this 8th of March.

    Send them(BN) the message of a TSUNAMI!!

  97. #97 by NotProudToBeMalaysian on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:07 am

    4,000 to 5,000 phantom voters already emerge in Bukit Bintang area, says Kok Wai!
    Vote buying, vote manupulating,phantom votes or vote rigging!
    All these are common in the election times.
    It’s the only way out for the cowards to win big.
    What can we do to weed out their menace?
    Stick to the principles and flush them out!
    For the MCA, MIC and Gerakan, what do they care for most?
    The “Datuk” title, the big car and the easy fortune if they win.
    No wonder they’re back stabbing each other just because of a chair in the parliament.
    It’s better to let the British rules rather than breeding more selfish leaders.
    Democracy no longer lives in Malaysia.
    Change for now or never!!!

  98. #98 by Menang atau mati on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:12 am

    Will BN be denied 2/3 majority?

    “The answer ,my friend, is blowing in the wind,the answer is blowing………… in the wind”

    Tsunami has just crossed the Bay of Bengal and approaching Andaman Sea.Estimated time of arrival in Malaysia — around 8th March 2008!!!

  99. #99 by KL Dude on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:12 am

    Use the internet and emails to also reach out to many people as possible, other than the current ceramahs.

    The media, be it TV, radio or local papers seems to be fully supporting BN and suddenly those news papers that were critisising certain BN leaders previously are now critising the opposition to the maximum without mercy… and at the same time uplifting sky-high those dumb BN leaders whom they were critisizing before.

    So BN has 100% advantage from the mainstream media as compared to the opposition and the other effective way for the opposition to reach out to voters, other than the ceramah campaigns, is via internet / emails.

  100. #100 by Menang atau mati on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:19 am

    Yes, internet and word of mouth.

    Do not be afraid to express your dissatisfaction of BN to all and sundry even total strangers.Ask them to vote the RAKYAT(opposition).

    I have been doing just that.

  101. #101 by Wisdom above on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:20 am

    other effective way … to reach out to voters, is via internet / emails.

    A ‘ Dynamic Malaysia ‘ … equality for all… a better future…

    Vote for a New MALAYSIA.

    Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.

  102. #102 by Come2Papa on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:28 am

    “Because MCA represents the Chinese in BN. Of course, this obviously excludes you.” limkamput

    You never cease to amaze me how you’d fail to understand the simplest of messages!

  103. #103 by NotProudToBeMalaysian on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:28 am

    As the polls is drawing near, go for whatever you can to bring the message out.
    Boycott the TV3 news and don’t go for any goverment owned media.
    Most of the time they’re trying the brainwashing tactics.
    Keep on thinking about the rising crime rate, the lies from the PM mouth,the money that is being wasted, the rising of goods and petrol, and other kind of stuff that have happened during these four years period.
    Laugh ridiculously, when you sees or hear anything about the Barisan propoganda. I think this will help you to counter the Barisan ways of false hope.

  104. #104 by matterofchoice2008 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:33 am

    Time to vote for Jeff Ooi and the Opposition. Exercise your right now!!

    TAK NAK TO ………….

    We need the check and balance for good governance.
    Please do your part. Please call upon all friends and relatives to vote for the Opposition.
    We need to send the right candidates to parliment to voice up for us.
    Penang and Jelutong voters, we need more supports to reject BN parasites going into the Parliment.

  105. #105 by localgrad on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:46 am

    Gosh! watching PROPAGANDA BARISAN NAZI’s TV, almost fainted after hearing that OKT hurled some stupid comments like that. I think he is like Semi Value, totally losting his mind and gone insane after tremendous pressure from their MASTER.

    what kind of leader of this bunch of scumbags?

  106. #106 by sfr on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:48 am

    This OKT tak malu, his brother lost to cili padi, but become Secretary General of MCA, rank no 3 in MCA. Is this type of Party can safeguard and fight for Malaysia Chinese interest ? Think carefully, friends.

  107. #107 by NotProudToBeMalaysian on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:48 am

    Ask the MCA, Gerakan,PPP or the MIC to speak out thru their own self consience.
    On what sort of aspect do they represent the Chinese or the Indian community. When the Umno Youth hurt our feelings and never even apologise, what did they do. They keep mum!
    When we say something wrong to them, we are threatened with sorts of action and what did they do? All of our pride have been washed out into the drain and still they’re many so called members of those parties running around proudly. Even in the parliament, the opposition is not spared. We’re even told to get out of malaysia when we oppose of certain things. The Barisan component parties are not representing either one of us.
    They’re just representing themselves and their famillies.
    Put it right, please!

  108. #108 by NotProudToBeMalaysian on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:57 am

    Our Najib advised the Penang folks not to talk about sentiments on who is going to become the CM of Penang because it’s our PM home state.
    Make your choice wisely!

  109. #109 by shortie kiasu on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:16 pm

    We do not think Ong is of leadership material. It is known for years, MCA is just a pawn to UMNO in the BN.

  110. #110 by yyh on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:22 pm

    MCA works for the people? For every tax payer’s money that flows back to the rakyat via these political parties, how much have it been siphoned off? Is it not a MCA MInister that approved the PKFA scandal which cost the taxpater RM4.7 billion, Mr ONg.

    And you MCA corrupts glorified a paltry total sum of RM2.5 million for Chinese schools as goodies for this election and that is only RM100,000 per school over 4 years or equivalent to RM25,000 per year. Compared to the huge RM4.7 billion milked from us, you called that working for malaysians.

    People like u including your brother has no conscience and history will remember MCA as the running dog in exchange for the ringgit sign.

  111. #111 by cfcluvdap on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:26 pm

    It’s so horrible….the MCA guy who jiak money calling or branding others greedy. It is terrible that OKT reserve the “safe” dewan for his brother to make more money and said others trying to draw 2 salary….pretending that he is still poor coming from a poor family background. OKT, cukup lah….sudah jiak so much, else get choked and may have to vomit out later….OKT, you did that to CKC and CSL, one day, you will have to pay for it when your machai do it to you.
    Maybe, OKT think that he built the empire with your brother getting into safe dewan, become miniter too and nobody can disturb him in the future.

  112. #112 by hanliang on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:26 pm

    mr ong. u should remind u umno fren. they also field a future mb in parlimen seat & state seat in kelantan mah. umno cant win in kelantan.

  113. #113 by undertaker988 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:29 pm

    Yes..tsunami is coming to penang this 8th mar.Okt(useless dog) n co will definely wash out of penang…

  114. #114 by Anti_NEP on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:30 pm

    This OngKaGoodForNothing is talking c**k. He has the guts to claim that he and his Umno master are of same standing. MCA dog is forever MCA dog and always obey his Umno master’s command.

    MCA claimed achievement in setting up UTAR and TAR College. If the BN practice true meritocracy in the last 50 years do we need these two institutions?

    Former primier Dr. M had mentioned that the chinese communitiy paid the most income tax. It is the duty of the elected government to provide education, healthcare and development to the tax payers. Why MCA acted as second income tax department for the chinese community to collect money to put up these institutuions?

  115. #115 by chench88 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:35 pm

    Time for MCA to wake up.Don’t cheating chinese anymore.(OKT MUST SEE). Listen, most Malaysian chinese hate you MCA. cos all MCA leaders dare not bark umno and prefer to be runner dog.Most chinese supports DAP.

  116. #116 by Short-sleeve on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:43 pm

    To Ong Ka Ting & all at MCA,

    Why dont we have a Ong Ka Ting vs Lim Kit Siang public debate for the rakyat??

    Make it a 2 hour debate. To balance things a little, Ong Ka Ting can speak for 1.5 hours. Lim Kit Siang just need 30 minutes.

  117. #117 by wizzerd on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:45 pm

    Ong Ka Ting is not called Ong Kow Tow or Kowtow Ong for nothing.

    Nuff said. your MCA infomercials on TV/Astro/Radio/Newspapers make me wanna puke.
    You can spend a fortune doing all these,but they are not going to make me change my mind.
    My vote..together with my family and friends are for the Barisan Rakyat

  118. #118 by sotong on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:46 pm

    Those who are prepared to work hard are worked to their bones…..sacrify their personal and family life to ensure a reasonable financial security at retirement age….but a working poor all their lives.

  119. #119 by devilmaster on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 12:55 pm


  120. #120 by cmbss on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:08 pm

    OKT, becareful, your mother will wake up from her grave and SLAP you.

    Sick dog you!!!

    Can you declare all the money made whilst in MCA, (under your family, friends, proxies’ name?

    Can you? Can you? Can you? Can you? Can you?

  121. #121 by Godfather on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:08 pm

    By allowing a crook Ling Hee Leong to contest in Gopeng, the MCA clearly has no interests of the Chinese community in mind. If Ling wins, he and the MCA will be forever beholden to the UMNO masters because of the thick file currently with Badawi.

  122. #122 by AhPek on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:37 pm

    Tell me ONG KA TING, MR. MINISTER SIR, what have you done towards stopping the continual institutionalisation of discrimination being carried out in this country, discrimination such as:-

    (1) Racial discrimination in the appointment and promotion of employees in public funded bodies (means funded by taxea of which a large part comes from non MALAY contribution), resulting in these becoming almost mono-raced bodies (particulrly so in their top strata). These bodies include the civil service,police,army and various semi and quasi government bodies like the 10 public universities whereby all vice-chancellors are Malays!

    (2) Barring of non Malays from tenders and contracts controlled directly or indirectly by the government.

    (3) Imposition of compulsory price discounts and quotas in favour of Malays in housing projects.

    (4) Imposition of compulsory share quotas for Malays in non-Malay companies.

    (5) Blanketbarring of non-Malay to publicly funded academic institutions.

    (6) Completely lop-sided allocation of scholarships and seats of learning in clearlyunreasonable proportions that reflect racial discriminations.

    (7) Almost zero participation in the oil industry (in Petronas).

    (8) The Judiciary an important keeper of fair play and justice, I am not sure whether there are any non-Malay judges any more in the Supreme Court.
    Our Constitution provides only one class of citizenship and all citizens are equal before the law. The presence of Article 153 does not alter the fact as it is meant only to protect the Malays from being ‘squeezed’ by other races at the time of independence by allowing the reservation of reasonable quotas on certain sections of national life.This special position and not special privileges or special rights of the Malays was put in precisely because of the backward educational and financial positions of Malays at the time of Independence and this position was also to be reviewed in 15 years time (1972) as a gentlemens’ agreement amongst our founding fathers. However , this Constitution has now been hijacked thro decades of hegemony of political power by UMNO of which you, your MCA,MIC,Gerakan,SUPP condone in and may even have contributed to it, resulting in the virtual monopoly of the public sector by a single race. the ensuing racism,corruption and corrosion of our democratic institutions have brought serious retrogression to our nation building process in terms of national unity, discipline,morality and competiveness of our people.
    At this critical juncture where nations in this region and around the world are urgently restructuringand shaping up to cope with globilizationour nation stagnatesin a cesspool that has created thro decades of misrule of which you and your MCA has played a part in it of no small measure.
    Unless urgent reforms are carried out,Malaysia is in for serious troubles in the days ahead

  123. #123 by k1980 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:37 pm

    Which of the following crooks can hold his head high and say, “I have made my community proud of me”

    Tun Tan Cheng Lock (27 February 1949 to March 1958)
    Tun Dr. Lim Chong Eu (March 1958 to July 1959)
    Dr. Cheah Toon Lok (acting) (July 1959 to November 1961)
    Tun Tan Siew Sin (November 1961 to April 1974)
    Tan Sri Lee San Choon (April 1974 to March 1983)
    Datuk Dr. Neo Yee Pan (acting) (March 1983 to November 1985)
    Tan Koon Swan (November 1985 to September 1986)
    Tun Dr. Ling Liong Sik (September 1986 to May 2003)
    Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting (May 2003 to Present)

  124. #124 by mauriyaII on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:40 pm

    Ka Ting, Ka Chuan,Ling Hee Leong, KTK of the Gerakan and Samy Velu of MIC are nothing but rabid dogs of the UMNO barking as loud as possible that only mongrels are capable of. When they feel cornered and all their wrong doings exposed, they just can’t take it. So they hit out at anybody just to look good to their followers.

    They are the shameless, greedy and selfish ones who DO NOT CARE TWO HOOTS FOR THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES. These won’t hesitate to sell whatever little rights the Chinese and Indians have for money, power, useless titles and of course for the pleasure of sucking up to UMNO.

    Mr. Lim, Just ignore these worthless and ungrateful scum.

  125. #125 by son of perpaduan on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:44 pm

    Malaysian with love,
    Politician talk a lot and promise sky high things. Both parties hurling abuses to each others. Who is good and who is bad is not the issues. Before and after always not the same, BUT… least all malaysian should help opposition to proof their resistance to the current administration which sucking the poor malaysian wealth and freedom. Name me which goverment agencies is not taking bribe…….???? NONE IS THE ANSWER…right or wrong??

  126. #126 by Billy on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:49 pm

    Come, OKT, if you are one who truly claim that you represent the Chinese community, I want to see you stand for election in any of the DAP constituencies. I am sure DAP would not mind putting a junior member to contest against you. You know what, we’ll show you the door in double quick time. Many Chinese do not want you and disdain you like a bucket of s***. So stop claiming something which you are not. To me and many others, you are totally a nobody and a non entitious character seeking fame and fortune in the BN, and that will be your downfall.

  127. #127 by max2811 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 1:54 pm

    Frankly speaking, my family and I are glad Ling Jr is standing in our constituency. As MCA members, we have been loyal to the party and BN in the previous elections.

    On 8th March, the four votes that my family carry and the votes of other ppl who had voted for BN, will go to PKR’s Dr. Lee Boon Chye.

    My way of taking revenge for losing money on Omega way back in 1997. Our way of expressing our happiness towards PKR’s manifesto. May GOD correct the wrongs that have been going on in Msia.

  128. #128 by KC GOH on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 2:03 pm

    You might have hit the nail on the head–building a Ong’s brother political empire. Actually don’t know yet, will have to see the political development. May be truth may be not.

  129. #129 by somaris on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 2:04 pm


  130. #130 by boh-liao on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 2:12 pm

    TKO/OKT = Give a technical knock out to OKT!

    Please ensure all MCA, Gerakan, and MIC candidates lose so bad on 8.3.08 that they lose their deposits. A great TKO!

  131. #131 by limkamput on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 2:47 pm

    You never cease to amaze me how you’d fail to understand the simplest of messages!

    Papi chai, who care whether you are amazed, shocked or surprised. Who are you? A phua tang sai mah cai of OKT?

  132. #132 by boh-liao on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:00 pm

    In all ceramah, DAP and opposition speakers must announce to all Malaysians that AAB is a LIAR!

    Fact #1: AAB lied about the date when parliament is to be dissolved. On 12.2.08, AAB said “parliament will not be dissolved tomorrow”. On 13.2.08, the Star (a BN controlled newspaper) screamed: “Parliament will not be dissolved today”. Then on 13.2.08 after 12 noon, Badawi, without any embarrassment, declared to the world the dissolution of parliament.
    What the F, ini pun nak tipu!

    Of course, there are many more lies.

    A country is judged by its leaders. Malaysia was led by a big liar. Are we proud of this? Do we still want a pathological liar, in the Emperor’s New Clothes, to lead the nation?

    In all ceramah, DAP and opposition speakers must announce to all Malaysians that AAB is a LIAR!

  133. #133 by boh-liao on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:07 pm

    Malaysian Politics 101: What to do when encountering a BN candidate

    1. When a BN candidate meets you, say in a kopitiam or market, don’t avoid him.

    2. It’s OK to shake his hand.

    3. Just say you will vote for BN and demand from him an ‘ang pow’ or sewing machine, if you like.

    4. If he gives you the ‘ang pow’, open it and check how much. (If possible, record it: photograph or video.) Then you say loudly so that all around you can hear: “Aiyah, so little money one! Need more money lah.”
    Keep the money so that you can donate it to DAP/PKR/PAS later.

    5. Then ask the BN candidate: What do you think, can we trust AAB as our PM? Is AAB a liar? Why did AAB lie to the world about the dissolution of the last parliament? Do you agree with the decision for police to use water cannon and tear gas against unarmed citizens who wish to have a peaceful public rally? etc. etc.

    6. Finally, say goodbye to the BN candidate and tell him that after talking with him, you prefer to vote for CHANGE and will be voting for DAP/PKR/PAS.

    Malaysian Politics 101: What to do when encountering a BN candidate

  134. #134 by pongsakling on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:08 pm

    I don’t care what MCA or Gerakan anjing said, I will vote for DAP!

  135. #135 by pongsakling on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:20 pm

    Dear YB Lim,
    Why no ceramah at Batu Kawan?
    Please come to Batu Kawan for ceramah, Malaysians are waiting for you! I Love DAP!

  136. #136 by Menang atau mati on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:32 pm

    Dear bohliao and all,

    Would it not be better that we take the money ,thank the BN agents loudly so that everybody can hear,tell him that we will vote for the BN and then do otherwise at the ballot box?

    Money can then be donated to whoever you like.

    Let them think they have won your votes.Then let them wake up yo reality on 9th March.

  137. #137 by showsomemercy on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:34 pm

    That is more like it! Take whatever they give you. We deserve more then what they give, but oh well just take….. Vote otherwise…! :)

  138. #138 by Menang atau mati on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:39 pm

    To all Penagites,

    The MCA and Gerakan can still claim they represent the non-Malays because they are still holding so many seats all these years.

    If after this election ,they are still holding many seats ,they will still claim they represent the Chinese and non-Malays.

    Wipe out MCA and Gerakan!!!!!!.T

    Then ,they cannot talk big anymore.Force them to admit they have lost the mandate of Heaven and the mandate of the Chinese and non-Malays.

    Hor e-lang kam thiam la!

  139. #139 by year of snake on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:41 pm

    This OKT is talking through his nose, who does not need money to survive and what is the salary compared to what he can get from his master. Instead he should do something positive like asking his master to let MCA have the portfolio of either one of these ministeries, Finance, Commerce, Foreign Affairs, Defence, Home Affairs or Education then I will consider voting for MCA but this will never happen.

  140. #140 by Anti_NEP on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:46 pm

    OKT = Oh Kui Tow to his Umno master

  141. #141 by mycroft on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 3:53 pm

    “k1980 Says:

    Today at 13: 37.50 (1 hour ago)
    Which of the following crooks can hold his head high and say, “I have made my community proud of me”

    Tun Tan Cheng Lock (27 February 1949 to March 1958)
    Tun Dr. Lim Chong Eu (March 1958 to July 1959)
    Dr. Cheah Toon Lok (acting) (July 1959 to November 1961)
    Tun Tan Siew Sin (November 1961 to April 1974)
    Tan Sri Lee San Choon (April 1974 to March 1983)
    Datuk Dr. Neo Yee Pan (acting) (March 1983 to November 1985)
    Tan Koon Swan (November 1985 to September 1986)
    Tun Dr. Ling Liong Sik (September 1986 to May 2003)
    Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting (May 2003 to Present)”

    I think the above statement is highly uncalled for. To call someone like Tun Tan Cheng Lok, a crook, is to show great disrespect to a man who tried to bring acceptance of Malayan Chinese into the mainstream of society. We must remember that during those days, many of the Chinese in the country did not have Malayan citizenship. The efforts of Tun Tan were instrumental in ensuring that the Constitution recognised the rights of many Malayan-born Chinese people such as mother tongue education and citizenship. He was not perfect of course, but if we were to just call him a crook because we do not agree with his political philosophies is the first step of a dishonest society.

    Lim Chong Eu also should not be deemed as a crook, although his bringing Gerakan into the BN was a disgrace. He lost power in MCA after he fought with UMNO over the number of MCA (Chinese) candidates in the 1959 elections. Under his stewardship as Chief Minister, Penang was the jewel in the crown of Malaysia and he pioneered the concept of attracting foreign investors into the State to set up operations. A concept that was later taken by Mahathir on a Federal level… without acknowledgement to Dr. Lim of course. Was bringing Gerakan into the BN a terrible mistake? Yes, as we can see now Gerakan has lost all revelance and without someone like Chong Eu is all but a punching bag for UMNO. Was he flawed? Definitely. Was he a crook? No.

    Tan Koon Swan – Well, this one was definitely a crook. Just ask the courts in Singapore. Does Pan El ring any bells?

  142. #142 by Menang atau mati on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 4:10 pm

    Tun Lim Chong Eu – I do have some respect for him.However,bringing Gerakan to BN, I think, was a mistake.

    Instead of being developed into a truly national multi-race party, its has become restricted to Penang because it went under the umbrella of BN.

    Its growth was curtailed and has generally degenerated into a mainly one race party with its strength only in Penang.

    It can only degenerate further.

    As for Tun Tan Cheng Lock, I am too young to know what really happened.But I do understand that many Chinese were dissappointed with him.

  143. #143 by ycchai62 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 4:59 pm


    I have few question for u to answer :

    1. As tax payers, why the Chinese being denied their right for Chinese school development fund from the government. Instead we have to dig our own pocket. why?
    2. Why are MCA has such low self esteem that u are damn satisfied with allocation of only 4 minister posts. If MCA is ranked at par with UMNO, u should aspire to become even a PM. After all, u are also a rakyat of Malaysia.
    3. Why there are not even a single non-malay CEO in GLCs, public Uuniversity, Bank Negara. Are we not qualified or just not being treated as a rakyat.
    4. Ling Liong Sik asked the Chinese to behave like a minority few years back and face the reality. What is u understanding of this statement. Are we Chinese all idiots.
    5. Tan Koon Swan set up Koperasi Mulpha and resulted millions ringgit of hard earned money of the Chinese community washed down to the drain and someone’s pocket. Isn’t it greed.
    6. Your brother, OKC said he failed to bring development to Kinta Valley as he was not elected in 2004 GE. What does it imply? A rakyat will not entitle to any development if he don’t vote for the ruling party, what kind of healthy politics MCA or BN is preaching? Inciting fear, devide and rule or u treat the rakyat as dog? (u get bone only if u bark)
    7. MCA maintain their influence or power in all rural village by handing out goodies to a bunch greedy chaps and make them village head and councilors. And they control the approvals of a various matter such as land, housing , licence etc together with other BN chaps. Now, what u call this if not corruption.
    8. Did the government made any BN’s MP to submit their account on the RM5 million constituency development fund for audit? What kind of transparency is this?
    9. Why do we Chinese have to bend to such a low esteem that we need to kow tow to UMNO if we are EQUAL ? Why? Why?

    Don’t ask me but answer your ancestor instead if u are honourable and sincere. Remember , remember the 4th precept since u claim to be a Buddhist.

  144. #144 by mycroft on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:03 pm

    Many people were disappointed in Tan Cheng Lok because they felt he did not fight hard enough for the Chinese. But we have to understand that the situation at the time called for a give and take approach. The Chinese accepted issues such as the National Language and the Rulers, while the Malays accepted the granting of citizenship to the Chinese.

    Of course these days it is UMNO takes takes takes, and everyone else gives.

  145. #145 by oknyua on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:06 pm


    My opinion, your list is a bit too far. Tan Kon Suan- he is remosrseful, I think. Forgive him.
    Tun Ling LS, he never show any regret. He intensifies it with his son’s name.
    The present OKT – his crying face tells all.
    Tan Siew Sin, Lee San Choon – I think they did their best. (Just opinion). Neo YP, well he didn’t start any dynasty. Hs brother is my close friend – poor like me.

    Max2811 – Omega Holdings – are you sure Ling & Sons the schemer behind this? They are related to someone behind the scheme but I don’t think they are the the main players. However I agree that your vote should go to DAP or PKR!

  146. #146 by Saint on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:28 pm

    Saudara kit,

    Forget about MCA or Gerakan or BN for that matter.
    Just concentrate on winning as many Parliament seats possible.
    Those in this blog know of your sacrifice to this nation.

  147. #147 by mycroft on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:36 pm

    Tan Siew Sin – The man who did the most to break up Malaysia.

    Lee San Choon – Mr. Piggy. Between him, Neo Yee Pan and Ling Liong Sik – they form a frightfully ugly bunch. But well, credit to him, he was the only MCA leader with the guts to fight in a DAP stronghold – Seremban vs Dr. Chen Man Hin.

  148. #148 by dawsheng on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:44 pm

    “Many people were disappointed in Tan Cheng Lok because they felt he did not fight hard enough for the Chinese.” – mycroft

    Nobody has ever fought hard for the Chinese in Malaysia as they were never once united under any circumstances or any other struggles. No Chinese has ever suggest or say, let’s fight for a separate homeland in this Malay penisular, and from the Malacca days we know that the Chinese are all for racial integration as it was a proven fact with the existense of Baba.

    The Chinese know the only way to go foward is total integration with other races but what they didn’t know at that time is not all people want integration, some people wants to be special. At that time who would have thought we have to fight so hard to be call Malaysians? Then it was also totally unthinkable that living together would be so hard.

    It was always the question of interest. Self interest vs. group interest and all that. But ever since the day of Yap Ah Loy, Ghee Hin and Hai San, the MPAJA and communist party up till now we still have many factions with different ideologies, but never once one of these claimed to represent the Chinese except MCA.

    As far as I concern there is no culprit, if there to be one then it must be everyone.

  149. #149 by dawsheng on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:48 pm

    Come on Mr. Moderator, my comment is ‘armless!

  150. #150 by dawsheng on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:52 pm

    But the bottom line is this, DAP is not fighting for the Chinese, DAP is fighting for all Malaysians, if it is worth fighting hard, this it is!

  151. #151 by dylsee on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:52 pm

    Chan Kong Choy must have been very tired of political dreams, and resorted to go back to his ??? (for those who can read Mandarin), because at least the world out there is not as cruel as in real life. But what about those problems left behind the Department?
    Economic growth of 7 over percent may also be misleading, because deducting from a high percentage of inflation, it amounts to nothing at all! When we talk about less than 3 percent growth in the western countries, we should not forget that they keep the inflation very low indeed!
    Hope that DAP will perform well in this coming Election, and don’t forget that it is the people who is the most important in the eyes of a good politician. Abraham Lincoln is one of them. Hope that more will be out from DAP!

  152. #152 by anak sungeisiput on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 5:54 pm

    The anger and the discontentment expressed here is galringly loud. Unless the Malaysin Chinese have the willingness and capabilty to do what the Hindraff Indians did, and unite with them the we cannot expect our constitutional rights be given in a silver plate.

    Winning a handful of seats alone will not allow the racial minorities to be given their rights. In the minds of UMNO elitists MCA equates to access to money and bussiness opportunities for some of the Malays politicians and the MCAChinese have perfected the art of ALI BABA system. The Chinese are satisfied with economic opportunities. They are not interested in the human rights or birth rights. The mind set of the Chinese has to change.

  153. #153 by Loh on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 6:02 pm

    “MCA and Umno are political parties of the same standing and seniority. The only people we play bodyguard to are the Malaysian Chinese.” Ong Ka Ting

    So, Ong ka Ting knows very well that the position of Chinese in the country is weak and vulnerable. But MCA plays ‘bodyguard’ in the form of blinkers so that Chinese do not see the truth, and MCA can lead them to obey submissively to UMNO. When the group suffer together, they have company.

    Ong Ka Ting does not realise that Chinese want to be equal citizens and do not want to depend on bodyguard, like Malays depend on crutches. It is because MCA could not stand up as a political party to reason with UMNO on justice and civility, and submit to UMNO that the right of the Chinese community is a reflection of the ratio of Chinese in the population. Chinese ended up with partial rights as Malaysians. It is because MCA could not fight for what had been agreed to by the founders of the Alliance members that the rights of Chinese as citizens are slowly being deprived.

    We are realistic that UMNO might not agree to MCA demand. But MCA has the right to leave BN when UMNO did not honour the agreement. NEP was forced down the throats of the BN component parties because Tun Razak blackmailed them with the threat of not reconvening the parliament after the state of emergency had been declared. But MCA should have demanded that NEP be terminated in 1990; a review be made to evaluate the infamous 30% target with proper statistical methodology. The 30% target had already been reached in 1990 if the government did not lie with statistics. Had there been any gap from the target, Petronas funds could have been used to purchase equity capital in limited companies, and be held in trust for Malays. Other NEP programme should cease from 1990.

    MCA obviously did not demand a thorough review because the ministers were greedy for allowances, and salaries and perks as Ministers. It allowed UMNO to continue with NEP. That was Ling Liong Sik’s days as President of MCA. If MCA could not demand , then it is no bodyguard.

    PM AAB declared the extension of NEP into 2020 without a review when Ong Ka Ting has become President. We expect MCA to demand a review, and to do what was suggest above. Failing that MCA should have left BN. By remaining in BN when AAB declared the extension of NEP in 2006, 35 years after its inception, and 15 years after NEP should have ended, it shows that MCA needed BN and not the other way around. Chinese do not need MCA if they have to suffer NEP. So MCA did not serve as a bodyguard for Chinese community in the conventional sense. MCA guarded Chinese community to the gallows. MCA leaders needed BN to satisfy their greed.

    Yet Ong Ka Ting accused DAP leaders for being greedy in serving both in state and parliament. They do their job well, and should be accordingly compensated. It is MCA leaders that sell the Chinese community for their personal gain. They are not only greedy, they sin.

  154. #154 by Democrats on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 6:23 pm

    Allow me to share a Personal Experience….

    As part of the management team of Malaysian Chinese Manufacturing Company, we recently experienced the true “MCA for its people” policy.

    In June 2007, Ministry of Finance release a circular to all government department and agencies that they should purchase the products we manufacture from the only Bumiputra manufacturer of this product by way of direct negotiation. (Reasoning state in the letter in actual words… dasar kerajaan menyokong pengilang bumiputra berdaya maju – don’t ask me the logic behind this! I’m clueless as to how non competition can make people competitive, not to mention the waste of tax payers money government buying at higher price without tendering)

    We, together with a handful of manufacturers, wrote of this injustice against Non Bumiputra company to MCA,the Star, the NST and DAP. MCA, verbally insisted that that was the government policy and can do nothing about it. The Star and NST never published our letters. Only DAP lead by Lim Guan Eng took initiative of our call, calling a press conference with the Chinese dailies (published the next day). After alot of complaints and noise made, a letter of retraction of the circular was made again by the Ministry of Finance. Thanks to DAP and LGE and the Chinese press, such injustice did not prevailed long.

    This goes to show how much the MCA are really looking after the Chinese rights. When I read recently on how OKT speaks on MCA being the true voice of the Chinese, I laugh my head off, followed by a shrug of worry how many Malaysian Chinese buys his crap.

    MCA and MIC is a cameo of the BN. At least UMNO really take care of the Malays….

    While Malay voters have been split between UMNO against PAS and PKR, it has always been the conservative Chinese and Indian that voted BN to achieve the 2/3 majority, especially the older generations – (Scared got roits and disharmony).

    Let this not happen again….

  155. #155 by waterfrontcoolie on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 7:02 pm

    If you observe the quality of MCA leaders down the years, they are getting more and more BALL-LESS, eunuch-like, no substance to contribute to any one. All they care is their pockets. In the days of Lee San Chun, at least he dared to threaten to resign when the party was cornered. Now, both the MCA and Gerakan would cry for forgiveness even before AAB say any thing! Worse than this his SIL would decide on his behalf. Who is this guy? Not even in the Gomen. Since they are a butch of ENUNCHs, what difference would it make, whether they are in the GOMEN or not? It wouldn’t affect anyone who had been affected or not affected after all these years!

  156. #156 by AhPek on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 7:22 pm

    Is Chan Kong Choy sick ah or does he not look like one who is done in by OKT to pave the way for OKC to take over party and Health Ministry?Why OKC put in Tanjong Malim and not in Cili Padi’s constitutuency,OKT?
    So tell us isn’t MCA a family thing now for your Ong family?

  157. #157 by showsomemercy on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 7:42 pm

    I wonder how old are you peeps? just general knowledge. No need to be exact. I am in mid twenties. :)

    Sorry if out of topic ya. Anyway ill be going out soon go and listen Lim Guan Eng’s ceramah in Pay Fong Melaka

    Let’s shout for DAP and vote for DAP! :)

  158. #158 by chiakchua on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 7:43 pm

    One MCA election Chinese banner in town says: We deliver what we said.
    What a laugh! I fully agreed they could deliver what they said, however, they dare says only the ‘sup-sup-tsui’ thing! They will never say something on ‘national policy or system’ as it may offend their bosses in the UMNO. Do they dare to propose the Royal Commission Inquiry into the ‘correct, correct, correct’ case? Had it not been the pressure from opposition, Bar council and NGO, the RCI wouldn’t have taken shape.
    They are trying to cheat the innocent Chinese! Shame on them, think trice before they put up the claim!

  159. #159 by grace on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 8:05 pm

    To all MCA candidates,
    “Chiak Pa Boi?”, (Chinese greeting)

    I want to tell you all, with due respect, that you are a shame to the community.
    Why? When the keris was waved in front of OKT or ChongKong Choy’s face, both of you could still smile gleefully!
    Similarly that Koh Tsu Khoon and LKY same-same!!!
    My vote definitely not for any one of you.

  160. #160 by TrueMalaysian8888 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 8:33 pm

    If DAP, PKR and Pas won the election, how are they going to share power???? this is how they should share :-

    Malay – 55% (Pas & PKR)

    Chinese – 30% (DAP & PKR)

    Indian – 15% (DAP & PKR)

    This share percentage inclusive of everything from MNC shares Ownership, Civil Servants ratio, Projects allocation, wealth sharing,
    Petrol Station Ownership, Petronas staff and management staff ratio, Land ownership, Quota for University entrant, Ministers Ratio and Doctors in Govt Hospital ratios and etc.

    Thats what we called SHARING POWER and LIVING IN HARMONY among different races.

    IF Pas wants to set up Islamic State, they can do it if the residents in the state wants it, so that Majority Malay State can choose whether they want to live in a islamic state or not. And we chinese
    will respect it as like wise we would liked the malays to respect our religion too.

    With this type of sharing power arrangement, we all can live in harmony !!!! and Prosperous Together !!!.

    I put more percentage to Indian as they suffer the most for the past 50 year and as a chinese myself, I believed that with the 30% Ownership, we will be able to support ourself.

  161. #161 by TrueMalaysian8888 on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 8:36 pm


    And to the Majority Malays, the 55% will be benefiting most of them instead of present situation where Ministers and their cronies take up the 99% and enriching themselves while the ordinary Malays did not get their share!!..

  162. #162 by ktteokt on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 8:59 pm

    Bigjoe, didn’t you realize there are no more “natural human beings” in MCA anymore? Everyone has to have a title before or after their names! What we normally address others, by using “Mr.”, “Mrs.” or “Miss” is no longer the norm in MCA and these “pedigrees” can only be addressed by Dato’, Tan Sri, Tun, etc……

  163. #163 by oknyua on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 9:00 pm

    I am fighting a losing battle. Many Chinese voters are just complacent. “Sama saja, undi DAP or BN, sama saja. You have to undi the person, not the party.”

    The businessman are worse: Undi BN for business.

    I really don’t know how to present it anymore. If we continue to have corruption, dead-body snatching, crimes increasing, don’t blame BN. Blame ourselves for being so complacent.

  164. #164 by Loh on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 9:12 pm

    ///They (MCA), too, have to kowtow and plead for some bread crumbs just like MIC. They are equally powerless.///–Samy Vellu

    Samy Vellu shows by making that statement that he is in fact better than MCA leaders, who pretend that they were serving the Chinese community. Having 28 years in the government, and he must have been convinced that the situation would only get worse when MIC and MCA served as wall flower to UMNO for them to do what they please, Samy Vellu should now be brave to leave MIC, and contest his seat in Sungai Siput as Independent. He will at least save his name, even at this late hour.

    There is no way UMNO would be willing to share the country equally with all Malaysians. 50 years have seen two and a half generations getting ready to compete with any imaginary adversaries, when there were none. When 20 years, a generation was ample to change the capacity of any family, the other thirty years offer them opportunity to exist as parasites, and worse, the time to produce more parasites to burden the society, if being parasites was the sole objective in taking advantage of the special position. After all, competition has to be carried out in the real environment. If it was the intention to live up to real competition, then, the actual competition should have started in 1972, 15 years after Article 153 and Independence.

    Of course the ordinary UMNO members would like to take the route of no work more pay if they can. The UMNO leaders have found that in making their members dependent on the organization, they would be there forever, and positions in party can be handed down from father to son, like royal household with connection to government tills. Yes, the honour of the Malays general public is utilised to keep them in power; when they say Malays still require help, it is clear to all that UMNO leaders are smart, and in addition to taking care of themselves, they have to be responsible to the weak, and the Malays public are always weak, as far as they are concerned. To the UMNO leaders , those Malays with PhDs are also weak, and that is why you find over 90% university lecturers are Malays when the ratio should have been 60 per cent, following the racial proportion in the country when it is believed that all races are equally intelligent. The high percentage of Malays university lecturers says only that Malays are preferred over non-Malays, and that is needed because they are weak, and require special assistance. Obviously when a larger proportion of the lecturers are from a single race, it can be concluded that the weakest among the PhD are accepted into the teaching staff. Should we wonder why the Universities in Malaysia are losing out to others in the world, by the year. Yes, we can pretend we are the best, and carry on dreaming.

    MCA is powerless to make the country attain its potential. MCA officials have not the intention to do so. The people in power in MCA are only interested to make use of their position in the party or government to enrich their family. Just count the number of the new candidates who are the children of the past MCA politicians. The fathers could not serve the community, and they have trained their children to continue with exploiting the political rights of the Chinese in the country. Why can’t the Chinese vote to see what can happen if MCA is wiped out rather than waiting for the rights to be taken away, bit by bit, in keeping MCA in play.

    The Chinese know full well that UMNO has been tightening the rope around Chinese necks, year after year. Over time, we would face the situation worse than the slaves in America. The American slaves were getting a change of live for the better while we attained independence in 1957, and we had racial equality save for the few provisions under Article 153. We are now slowly forced into slavery status, travelling in reverse direction to the blacks in USA.

    There is still so-called parliamentary democracy when we can still vote, though the weights are unequal. We know UMNO to be the devil, and yet we fear the unknown by voting the devil we know. We are brainwashed to believe that PAS is a bigger devil. Let us set the bigger devil to fight off the known devil, and if we have to experience the worst, let it come down early. PAS are manned by god-fearing religious people. Let PAS teach UMNO what true Islam means. It cannot be dead body snatching to gain religious merit!

    To continue voting for BN is to vote for fatality, dying slowly. So when we face PAS against BN, it is PAS that we vote, never mind if MCA, or Gerakan is standing on UMNO behalf.

  165. #165 by catharsis on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 9:47 pm

    “DAP leaders are very different from MCA leaders including Ka Ting. DAP leaders are in politics not for self gain, wealth, position or government position but for our ideals and principles, and love for our country”

    Uncle Lim, Uncle Kapar and Lim Jr you all should be walking high with the kind of sacrifices you have given in the name of justice, values and principle


    Your actions speak the loudest………..

  166. #166 by dawsheng on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 9:54 pm

    Because of MCA, UMNO has the chance to pain all Malaysian Chinese as villains who robbed the Bumiputras of their rights.

  167. #167 by Chong Zhemin on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 10:42 pm

    Hey guys,

    I came across this very inspriring story in

    Here’s the english version. good food for thought. Please pass on to all your friends…..


    Long time ago, God put two flocks of sheep on grassland: one group at north and one group at south. God also gave them two types of native predator: Lion and wolf.

    God told the sheep: “If you choose wolf, I shall give you one, and it’s allowed to bite you at its will. If you choose lion, I shall give you two, and you are allowed to choose anyone from the two of them to stay on the grassland, and you can replace it at any time.”

    So, the question is: If you are one of the sheep, what will you choose? A wolf or two lions?

    It’s easy to make your choice, right? Remember your choice, and continue with our story.

    The sheep at the south thought that lions are more fiercely than wolf, so they picked a wolf.

    The sheep at the north thought that although lions are more fiercely than wolf, but they have the option to choose, so they took two lions.

    The wolf started eating the sheep once it entered the herd at the south. The wolf was smaller and it had smaller appetite. One sheep is enough to appease its hunger for days. So the sheep only were hunted once a few days.

    The sheep at the north chose a lion and leave another one with God. The lion started eating sheep once it entered the herd at the north. The lion was more fiercely than the wolf and it had much larger appetite. It needed to eat a sheep each day to keep its stomach full. So the sheep is hunted everyday, and they were very afraid.

    They asked God to replace the lion. But the lion that stayed with the God has not been eaten anything and it was very hungry. It pounced on the sheep and bite like crazy. The sheep had to run for their life everyday until they didn’t have time to eat.

    The sheep at the south were grateful that they made the right choice, and they laughed at the sheep at the north for being stupid and chose the wrong predator.

    The sheep at the north repented for their choice. They complained to God, and asked God to change their native predator to a wolf. But God said: “No. Once the native predator was chosen, it cannot be changed anymore. You must live with it forever. Your only option is to choose between the two lions.” The sheep at the north have to keep rotating the two lions.

    But both lions were the same. Both of them showed no mercy. No matter how they rotate the lions, their situation was always much more miserable than the sheep at the south. At last, they stop rotating. They kept a lion full all the time while letting another one suffered in hunger. They only replaced the lions when the suffering lion was dying.

    After a long time of hunger, the suffering lion realized that: Even they are much stronger than the sheep, but its fate is controlled by the sheep. The sheep can send him back to
    God anytime, and let him suffer and die in hunger.

    So it treated the sheep very nice, it only ate the dead and the old sheep and it wouldn’t eat the healthy sheep. The sheep felt very surprise and happy. Some of the younger sheep even suggested letting the suffering lion to stay forever. But one of the elder reminded them: “The lion treats us good because it is afraid that we’ll send it back to the God. If we let another lion die, we’ll left with no choice and the suffering lion will return to its nature and starts hunting us again.” The sheep agreed with the elder. To prevent another lion starve to death, they replaced it after a few weeks.

    And the lion also realized that its fate is controlled by the sheep. In order to stay longer on the grassland, the lion tried its best to please the sheep. Another lion felt so sad that it had to suffer hunger again.

    After experiencing such a hard time, the sheep at the north finally can enjoy themselves.

    At the mean time, the situation of the sheep at the south became worse and worse because the wolf had no competitor and the sheep couldn’t replace it. It started to act wildly. It had to kill ten sheep everyday. It didn’t eat sheep anymore. It only drank their blood. The sheep were not allowed to make a sound because they would be killed by the wolf if they do so.

    In the end, the sheep at the south could only bemoan: “We should choose the lions in the first place……”

    End of story.

    So, what do you get from this story?

    We can only surrender if we don’t have the right to choose and decide (like the sheep at the south). But the democracy system gives us an opportunity to exercise our power to choose and decide our destiny (like the sheep at the north).

    But in our country, many people don’t realize that they have the power to do so. They keep feeding the same lion with their flesh and blood while letting another one starve to death. As a result, the lion grows stronger and its appetite becomes larger. It starts to think itself as King doesn’t care for the sheep as long as it’s happy. And it hopes that this situation will last forever.

    So, I hope that after reading this story, you’ll realize that you have the power to choose. You have to show the lions who’s the boss!! And the best time to do it is in the coming General Election!! Replace the fat and greedy lion!!!

  168. #168 by Cannottahan on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:33 pm

    Our Constitution provides only one class of citizenship and all citizens are equal before the law. The presence of Article 153 does not alter the fact as it is meant only to protect the Malays from being ’squeezed’ by other races at the time of independence by allowing the reservation of reasonable quotas on certain sections of national life.This is a special position and “NOT” special privileges or any “SPECIAL RIGHTS” of the Malays as claimed.This special clause was put in precisely because of the backward educational and financial positions of Malays at the time of Independence and this position was also to be reviewed in 15 years time (1972) as a gentlemen’s agreement amongst our founding fathers. However , this Constitution was hijacked and decorated through decades of hegemony by UMNO political power for decades of misrule of which you, your MCA,MIC,Gerakan,SUPP has played a part in it of no small measure.Are this not enough to brand you OKT and your cahoots in MCA as a traitor to the chinese race for collaborating with UMNO to hoodwinks and lie the mother of all lies to all chinese? Yet, you turn around to say the oppositions are liars! OKT you are a disgrace to the chinese community but a good turn around for the Barisan Rakyat. We won’t thank you but [deleted]!

  169. #169 by limkamput on Friday, 29 February 2008 - 11:33 pm

    I think history has given the non Malays enough opportunities to walk tall in this country, but the MCA and subsequently the Gerakan, the so-called leaders of the Chinese community has continued to squander them one after another, from the Malay Union, Merdeka, Singapore in Malaysia to 1969 election and its aftermath. Now it is 2008, what else are we still waiting for; for the whole cycle to repeat all over again? It is time for us to realise that the present political, constitutional and power arrangements in the country can no longer work. We must change everything, no matter how painful it takes. It is enough; there is no need to hear the baloney from the spineless souls of MCA and Gerakan again and again. It is beyond any doubt their preoccupation in Government is to collect perks for themselves.

  170. #170 by Come2Papa on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 12:39 am

    We are waiting for you to come to the nearest DAP branch to register yourself as a volunteer to do the many tasks that need to be done!

    We are waiting for you to come to papa!

  171. #171 by Come2Papa on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 12:43 am

    “The presence of Article 153 does not alter the fact as it is meant only to protect the Malays ..” Cannotahan

    Yes, and protecting the Malays does not mean sending ‘limkamput’ to the U.S. to study at taxpayers expense.

  172. #172 by PaMaScholarship on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 1:19 am

    Tonight, I have just sent my daughter off to study overseas. Next year, my son will be going as well. In the next few years, they will use up RM700-800K of our hard earned money.

    Would you believe that we have nothing better to do than to splash our hard earned money? You know how long and how much sacrifice we have to make to save this kind of money so that our kids can have a better future start?

    Do you know why it has to be on PaMaScholarship? That is because we are Chinese.

  173. #173 by tunglang on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 1:49 am

    Who gave OKT ( or MCA ) the dog license ( to bodek UMNO ) to represent the Chinese?

    Why didn’t the Chinese give MCA the Chinese Lion fangs instead? At the very least, OKT can ‘bite’ when it is warranted of him to do so ( remember the Krismuddin issue? ) unless he has no balls.

    We Chinese are partly to blame for the 50 years of our misery. We have our rights, our Constitutions, but our MCA representatives didn’t make full use of them (fangs).

    And especially for the older generations who have suffered the most yet still want to support the MCA dogs for fears of their threatened future.

    Enough is enough. Just Change It.

  174. #174 by marD on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 1:59 am

    So many unfair practices, so many blatant lies . Wake up ppl and fight for justice and equality.

    Let us express our discontent at the ballot box.. btw OKT who?

  175. #175 by cfcluvdap on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 2:14 am

    Who is on your list when you find that OKC cannot perform. Who will you dislodge so that Ong family looks brilliant while others must be dislodged to continue the Ong empire…..Ong Keat Tee ka just to show that you have guts getting rid of Ong too and bec OTK is not your team member……
    Dear DAP member…do you think my guess is 99.9%

  176. #176 by limkamput on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 2:15 am

    Papi chai, kamu ini kalut betul lah. Kau cemburu lah saya dapat pendidikan daripada USA and kamu hanya dapat belajar hingga sekolah tinggi sahaja. Itu nasib engkau lah. Orang your bodoh macam kau bagaimana Kerajaan dapat memberi biasiswa? Hanya yang cerdik and pandai di kalangan bukan bumiputra seperti saya dapat biasiswa untuk belajar di Amerika.

    Kau cakap sahaja. Apa yang kau buat untuk DAP selain daripada berbising di sini. Berbising itu percuma la, tidak perlu bayar.

  177. #177 by SIMPLYJUSTICE on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 2:23 am

    Ka Ting’s sounds like a loser . He failed to understand that leaders should exhibit integrity. I’m not sure of his qualification?

  178. #178 by pwcheng on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 2:36 am

    If you can read between the line and read his mind, he made this comment out of fear and nothing else. DAP had definitely given them a double blow for putting some credible candidates to stand in both parliament and state seats. I think Terasa Kok is one. Out of agony and fear to ridicule DAP. Why didn’t he ridicule somebody from UMNO who is seen always sleeping and yet holding on to three posts.

  179. #179 by showsomemercy on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 3:55 am

    oknyua business ppl have to show their support to MCA or UMNO. When they vote, you wont be surprised the vote for opposition!

  180. #180 by year of snake on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 7:12 am


  181. #181 by malaysia born on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 8:36 am

    observe carefully –

    up till now there has been NO denial of corruption from the BN.

  182. #182 by waterfrontcoolie on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 8:45 am

    If I can put my hand in projects such as PKFZ and the Naval ships, I don’t need any pay, EVER!! Yes, I will work for Raayat Malaysia. Some how talking about raayat malaysia, it gives me the chill especially amongst the ‘middle-class’ who read and who listen to international news but keep on Voting for a bunch of Cheats and Shysters years in and year-out anf keep moaning about their lives!! Wake up. MAN, here is the chance where you get stop moaning about life in Malaysia! Surely they can compare the various costs involved in those projects ‘created’ by BN, way BEYOND market RATES. Come Mar. 8th, ALL THINKING MALAYSIANS shoul;d play their roles positively. GO and VOTE for any PARTY except those CHEATS!!

  183. #183 by lopez on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 9:29 am

    I heard from some people, the opposition dont bring development and prosperity, security and whatever in your area. and your area has been in opposition hands for umpteen years.

    I say my friend, you must have been listening or reading the nation’s media for too long, 50 years across.
    Overtime lies can be made to become truth and worst no contest is allowed nor criticism.

    REad robinsoe island story in your primary skool rationalise if left alone with nobody to speak to, you will soon lose your mother tongue and also become mentally sick
    With nobody to celebrate the traditions and customs you had before then you begin to improvise and create your own version of those traditions and customs.
    Also ask the babas, a real life descendants of the Great Ming era outside of China.
    Also the indo servant can communicate better to your child than the parents? alienation from young is sorry case.

    Umpteen years, the people complained about unfairness and disrespect from the ruling gomen, but on deaf years or prevented from doing so either directly or indirectly.
    So how to do get the message across, you dont you can never because your development plans and opinions will be eliminated by takut kalah and green eye people at the first round.
    If suceessfool , the book will be thrown at you, every word and statement in the byelaws must be complied and suddenly you find how come they are so eager to do so, where is the motivation?

    So What do you have to say about what opposition has done for you and your area for umpteen years.
    For umpteen years you have become patient, matured, knowledgeable, wise, intelligent, organised, united, innovative, creative, stronger, determined to have days like GE2008. In your area is the same you cannot break the bye laws and whatever laws. If it is better it is because you people made it happen , you have help yourself and you need no God either to do that.

    The newspaper tell lies otherwise license no more, editor sacked, correspondent lock up and harassed, threaten.
    Why is this so, because you have benefitted from their plans in the short term, over long termed –see after 20 years, who really lost but luckily there is the internet , we know many great malaysians who made world recognitions in the developed world. Thsoe are the results of opposition plans, produce great malaysians and bring money back to the nation.

    I vote for change and forward change
    I vote for assimilation into the global community

    I vote for DAP

  184. #184 by hendrikscecilia on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 9:35 am

    A good election year for the opposition, things look good and voters this time around is going to change the wind. More opposition members will be voted into state and Parliament and a well check and balance team against the ruling coalition party.
    Until to date, forecast from the sentiment of voters around the country stands as;

    Kelantan- PAS will win Majority,
    Terengganu- PAS will have a narrow Majority,
    Perlis- PAS is 50/50 chance,
    Kedah- PAS increase seats,
    Penang- DAP increase seats and giving Barisan a tough fight.
    Perak- DAP will sweep Ipoh Timur, Batu Gajah,Gopeng,Kampar,Bruas,Taiping. Ipoh barat is keenly fought and the party needs to work harder this time. They will also be more representation at state level,
    Selangor- More opposition seats but still unknown yet,
    Wilayah Persekutuan- DAP will retain thier seats but watch out for Lembah Pantai,Segambut and Bandar Tun Razak, opposition 50/50 of winning.
    Other State will see surprise seats taken over by opposition but relatively still unknown of the nos.
    The Barisan Nasional is party full of lies and unwanted arrogant top people who just think for themselves and taking opportunity of the Rakyat to increase their personal gains on every Project undertaken.

    They do not have mercy on the Rakyat but cheat them by giving false impression. We are sure of our strong opposition leaders to check on them or even form the goverment.

    I have been following our general election since 1974 then PEKEMAS and DAP.
    The most impressive of the DAP is during 1982 election,
    where DAP candidates won almost in every state capital and also the first opposition party to win in Sarawak(Kuching and Sibu), and 1990 election short of forming Penang state goverment and the defeat of Dr. Lim Chong eu.

    I have also attended a number of ceramahs in Ipoh,Kl and other state and a large crowds attend.

    This time the year of the opposition and long live the ROCKET!

  185. #185 by limkamput on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 9:53 am

    Yes, it is the middle class that concerns me too. They are the ones who think the world is at their feet. Typically snobbish but hardly take notice of what is going on in the country. They are the ones that could be easily persuaded and influenced by the campaign tactics in the mass media. To win them over, it is best that the oppositions from now on speak on specifics, something that the rakyat can easily relate to.

    The oppositions must highlight specific issues and press for explanation or clarification from the BN parties, particularly UMNO, of all the specific misdeeds, abuses, manipulations, mismanagement, and corruption that happened during the last 20 years.

    Yes talk less of corruption in general, talk more of specific case – like the submarine purchase payoff.

    Talk less of religious bigotry in general, talk more of specific cases where citizens suffered as a result of such bigotry.

    Talk less of mismanagement, talk more of specific case of how cost over-run in PKFTZ can reach such a proportion.

    Talk less of ineffective policies, talk more of how government national automobile policy has caused the taxpayers and denied consumers of better and cheaper cars.

    Talk less of the incompetence of government, talk more of how the government squandered billions and left our public transportation in shamble and as a result caused misery to the public.

    Specifics are always easier to understand and relate to than concepts and generalities.

  186. #186 by limkamput on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 9:58 am

    Papi chai, kalau tidak erti bahasa malaysia, jangan bising sangat. Diam diam duduk,
    tutup mulut,
    jangan kalut.

  187. #187 by Cannottahan on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 10:08 am

    IGNORE this and the rakyat will suffer for generations to come!

  188. #188 by k1980 on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 10:31 am

    How BN may yet win with 2/3 majority

  189. #189 by peterlsc on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 10:46 am

    politician are the same…………. the world would be a much better place without them

    50year of BN is enuff, especially with our Sleepy PM, he’s a disgrace to the rakyat (not the cronies).

    i will vote the opposition

    btw i heard KJ would be the next Sports Minister…………..

  190. #190 by hotsync on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 11:08 am

    Just got back from breakfast at Jalan Alor, Bukit Bintang. My regular hawkers complained that their names were not recorded for voting this year even though they sweared they have been voting the past elections. The hawkers are elderly (definitely not 100 years old) and chinese.

    I asked them to chk with SPR and they did but was told they need to re-register again for the next election.

    Kit and Mr Fong of Bukit Bintang please look into this immediately.

  191. #191 by Arm-Lee on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 1:08 pm

    May I Know where the Campaign Held near Kajang for DAP or PASS to hear for our residents? I hope Malaysian will peaceful nowdays. I just hope for next generation will get peace and more. And Malays people please don’t different race or skin colour to chinese and indian. Because Malaysia not only Malays bumiputra. Is also for chinese and indian. If without Chinese and indian that is not Malaysia conutry coz Malaysia is different type of race. Please let me know where the DAP or PASS campiagn held near Kajang.

  192. #192 by Wisdom above on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 1:35 pm

    CNN news … You tube news …

    A New MALAYSIA , a ‘ Dynamic Malaysia ‘ … equality for all… a better future…

    Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.

  193. #193 by Wisdom above on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 1:37 pm

    A New MALAYSIA, a ” Dynamic Malaysia ” …equality for all… a better future…

    >…Anwar’s strong presence on the field and drawing large crowds…

    > Keadilan, which projects itself as a multi-ethnic party, is regarded as the best bet to bring together DAP and PAS…

    He has vowed to end race-based discrimination policies in Malaysia, making it one of the major planks of PKR’s manifesto.

    Many professionals have joined the DAP,PAS,PKR,PSM,MDP,PASOK throughout Malaysia, and Sabah & Sarawak.

    It is a multi-ethnic party.

    ” Barisan Rakyat ” … stand together … hand in hand,

    > Malays, Chinese and Indians ,Babas, Pribumi,

    > all Sarawakians ,Iban,Bidayu,Murut,Melanau,Kelabit, Kayan, Penan,

    > all Sabahans , Kandazan dusun …….!

    Vote for a New MALAYSIA … Women Power …

    The ” Barisan Rakyat ” voice.

    Syabas. Barisan Rakyat. …

  194. #194 by Luther on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 4:23 pm

    God blessed OKT,he come to Kulai with our hard earned monies and claiming that it was fight & nego by MCA from the cabinet for the chinese schools in JB and or Malaysia.Give him 4 letter word and tell them we deserve it but was robbed and denied=marginalised,those allocation for some school can only manage for toilet paper,shit.Please Kulai Chinese member must realise this and vote him out from the parliment.Our India brother must help to do so.
    19 chinese schools? where the teachers for those schools, The MCA help to sent them to SK since Krismuddin went to China and notice that it is important to learn some Mandarin and he tell OKT to instruct Hon( MCA DEM) to divert those most qualified Chinese teacher to SK.and no temperory teachers for Non SK otherwise you pay yourself and yet must get the approval,so why should we chinese must support the MCA who giving all this shit.
    Dear Indian brother,if Krismuddin visiting school in India then you will lost most of the qualified teacher also.So before he manage to do that vote the BN out first!or you may need to give them another 4 letters word.(3825)

  195. #195 by Luther on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 4:29 pm

    ZACK, we are talking about denying 2/3 majority but not forming the gov, please…don’t spoil the mood.

  196. #196 by znita07 on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 5:51 pm

    Let’s go for Malaysian Malaysia. No more Malaysia and her 3 major ethnic groups.

  197. #197 by undergrad2 on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 8:24 pm

    Mike Huckabee, the Republican’s presidential nominee who trails McCain by double digits spoke today of “dead people walking to vote”

    There was a time when people would lift names from tomb stones in the cemeteries and went to vote, “Yes, dead people walking to vote”.

    Today in countries like Malaysia he said, “They snatch bodies yet to be buried and give them Muslim names and later use these to allow their supporters to vote~”

  198. #198 by naked taliban on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 9:40 pm

    Today in countries like Malaysia he said, “They snatch bodies yet to be buried and give them Muslim names and later use these to allow their supporters to vote
    ~” Undergrad2 says,

    Back home in Afganistan we have yet to learn these tactics.Malaysia memang BOLEH!!

  199. #199 by waterfrontcoolie on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 10:04 pm

    Like what Limkamput said, bring out the actual issues of corruption to the average ppl during the ceramahs. Tell the ‘average Malaysians’ those news which BN tries to block out!! Ask MCA and Gerakan, What is their commitment against Corruption? [ though I doubt they dare to talk about it. they are all involved one way or another!!!] Compare the costs of those ‘PIRATIZATION’ PROJECTS, HOW THE AVERAGE MALAYSIANS HAVE TO BEAR THE COSTS OF ALL THESE CHEATINGS AND SWINDLING!! for the next few generations!
    Translate those BILLIONS into concrete projects which they can understand, the number of schools that could have been built just by the combined cost of PKFZ and the unsailable naval ships!!
    Many Malaysians could fathom those Billions. For that matter, I think those BN leaders could not figure the number zeroes too, but they just pocket what they could squeeze out of the system! So long as they control the media.
    So we can say the majority of the so-called ‘educated’ Malaysians are as smart as the graduates of the American Community colleges [ the same BN is sprouting all over the districts in the country!] All these Community colleges will fail; no doubt about it!; but who cares, the BN contractors have already collected their money! If these ‘mid’ class Malaysians still think they have got time to experiment’ with these suckers, don’t moan, just suck your thumbs for the next 5 years if you wouldn’t want to CHANGE NOW!! As the KING made it popular over 30 years ago’ IT’S NOW OR NEVER!!
    It is so obvious that BN ceramahs have no more subject matter!!

  200. #200 by waterfrontcoolie on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 10:06 pm

    miss out ‘not’ in …many Malaysians could NOT fathom…..

  201. #201 by ktteokt on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 10:31 pm

    Jamesy, what about OKT himself and AAB who are assuming multiple ministerial posts? Aren’t they even more greedy???? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!!!

  202. #202 by Come2Papa on Saturday, 1 March 2008 - 10:36 pm

    “Like what Limkamput said, bring out the actual issues of corruption to the average ppl during the ceramahs. ”

    This is like expecting a retard to stand on a soap box in Speaker’s Corner and shout about how retarded he is!

  203. #203 by limkamput on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 12:21 am

    Hanya seorang sahaja di sini ialah cacat, dan orang itu ialah papi chai @come2papa@darkhorse. Jong pun katakan cacat ini cuba nak cakap “sexist things” dengan dia. You are not only a cacat, you are a pervert.

  204. #204 by concerned_citizen on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 1:03 am

    This OKT is really too much.

    I’ve bought a house in Selangor three years ago and the developer has failed to build my house and I considered it as abandon. If you are aware about this developer, it starts with T_ _ _ _ and it HQ is located in Pandan Indah. You know what, although this so called good company has so much abandoned project and cheated many innoncent people money, it was and never backlisted. Is OKT another great sleeper?

    We as buyer were informed thru HBA that OKT was not aware of any abandoned projects in Malaysia. Didn’t he read the newspaper or get it from the TVs NEWs? Or perhaps didn’t he go out and have a look?

    Darned good sleeper!

  205. #205 by QuestionMan on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 1:31 am

    Similarly, I am interested to hear Kit Siang to tell us why over the years, Wee CK, Lee LT, Liew KW, Keh KH, etc etc left DAP, and Guan Eng being put on a high position in the party.

    In addition, I am interested to know has Guan Eng received education in any Chinese school or independant Chinese School eg Chong Hua…..? If not, who made that decision not to go a Chinese school.

  206. #206 by QuestionMan on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 1:47 am

    Both OKT and LKS are not doing good on the Chinese education. but nothing beats that time when a banana man Ling Leong Sik was leading MCA – how can you ask a banana man to represent and fight for the Chinese schools…

  207. #207 by Luther on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 2:07 am

    YB Kit, Please inform Ronnie Liu to do some campaign in Broga,majority chinese Liu should known as he once help the villager there to protest against the supposed “Tempat buang sampah” which was propose by the bloody OKT but now I heard my mother said those bloody MCA members there claiming that the court injunction for that rubbish project was nego and fight by the MCA in the gov, I’m oversea now, so please tell Liu to F them L/R centre,PAS is our brother there may be at least 500 votes,he must go there.

  208. #208 by Luther on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 2:20 am

    Questionman,LKS is not doing good for Chinese school because he is not in the gov.the rest of the MCA minister were in the gov and not doing good, so LKS still better.Husband and wife,son and father also fight each other and get separated,what do you expect for politician,same thing happen to MCA and Gerakan so forget about the Guan Eng case.But if you ever talk about Chong Hua School please do vote the BN out that is you sole responsibilty now.

  209. #209 by QuestionMan on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 2:21 am

    Please do not just focus on Broga and localised issue at Puchong – the bigger issue behind it is we have been letting the local governments to run the solid waste services. these local governments know nothing about managing solid wastes. It took more than 10 yrs for OKT’s ministry to come out with the national solid waste act and yet the perbadanan that is supposed to fix the shits left over by the local governments is still not operational.

  210. #210 by limkamput on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 2:38 am

    I think you better use your head a bit before asking silly questions.
    1. Can you prove that those who left DAP are due to Kit Siang? It is certainly more likely for opposition parties to encounter people “coming and going” for a simple reason that one needs conviction and commitment to stay in the opposition party. There are opportunists in BN and there are certainly opportunists in opposition parties including DAP.
    2. Can you prove that Guan Eng’s position in DAP is due to Kit Siang’s manoeuvring? What evidence have you got to prove that Guan Eng, on his own accord, can not assume the position he is holding now. By the way, as the secretary general of DAP, he had the distinction of having to go to Kamunting and Kajang prison. I suggest you check your facts first before insulting him. For all I know, you may be the BN dog here.
    3. What evidence have you got to prove that those without independent Chinese school education can not fight for the cause of Chinese education? I think your thinking is like a cave man.

  211. #211 by Come2Papa on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 2:57 am

    hey, be civil!

    don’t behave like a caveman without a cave! Yes, you ‘limkamput’ i’m talking to you! stop insulting others!

  212. #212 by limkamput on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 3:35 am

    Even a caveman is more civil that a pervert, a pervert who tried to make a pass on Jong and Jenny in a political blog. YOu are a pathetic pervert, papi. If you are so desperate, you should go elsewhere.

  213. #213 by QuestionMan on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 3:48 am


    Pls don’t call me the BN dog. I dislike what BN did in my town and this country as whole. I did not vote for BN for the seat of my town in the last election.

    Having doubt in LGE does not mean that I support BN.

    Only KS and those involved know what happened – whether is like what LimKamPut says, or there are also other reasons. the general public like me is not in a position to answer, but that does not mean we cannot ask. If these people left DAP for the reason stated by LimKamPut, never mind these people go. If losing people for the reasons that can be avoided, and DAP can avoid that in future, then the rocket can fly higher. We knew LGE sacrificed and went to Kamunting but just like him, some others experienced it in the 1990’s. but if you have others leaving and LGE rising, is it wrong to ask? why cannot ask? there are people I met having the same doubt like I have despite we do not dispute LKS hard work since the first day he put himself into politics. If LKS can clear this doubt I am sure more votes will be coming for the rocket. so pls take this as something that LKS can turn it around as something positive for him rather than having question marks around. Not all people follow the detail developments in rocket as detail as LimKamPut does – so we will have questions. If I can get the answer, I can then understand LKS more. If LimKamPut has the infor, just share it, but why the hell calling me the BN dog?

    On the matter of Chinese SRJK (C) and Chinese secondary schools – yes LimKamPut is right, the non-Chinese ed can also fight for it. but you cannot deny that doubts will be there from the Chiense ed voters when they face a non-Chinese ed candidate. so like it or not, you can still call these group as “cave men” – it is a barrier LKS has to overcome. but if you react by saying “you cave man!” to the voters – it will not help LKS to overcome this barrier.

    LimKamPut keeps on saying that “what evidence do you have”….come on, if I have the evidence, I did

  214. #214 by QuestionMan on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 3:50 am

    if I have the evidence, I don’t need to ask for LKS’ clarification to me as a voter.

  215. #215 by QuestionMan on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 4:05 am

    To LimKamPut..

    If I am a BN dog, would I highlight the shit behind the local government’s issue on our household rubbish management? (pls see my reply earlier on this same page)

  216. #216 by QuestionMan on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 4:28 am

    More message to LimKamPut,

    I admit that I am NOT a 100% rocket supporter as you are, but as I said earlier – I do NOT support what BN did in my town in particular, and in the country as whole.

    Nobody is perfect and nobody understands everybody in detail. If I can ask questions on what BN did, I can also ask questions on what rocket did. If you have people like me asking you questions about rocket’s things, how do you react can affect the outcome on whether you can turn these people around to be on your side, or you scare them away. Some of those who ask you questions may be from BN, then you can do whatever you want to say to them….but some may be those “cave-men” coming out from the caves seeking answers. If you shout at them, the “cave men” will be frightened and don’t want to deal with you anymore. Then, you lost the opportunity to have more supports, and the “cave men” lost the opportunity to seeking answers from you on more matters.

    It is your choice on how do you want to support LKS.

  217. #217 by Come2Papa on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 4:54 am

    more message for ‘limkamput’ aka lebai kamal bin put

    don’t worry questionman! he has a name for everybody who does not agree with him. in fact in your case you don’t need to disagree with him. all you need to do is voice your opinion. that’s all it takes to be called a BN dog!

  218. #218 by alberto on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 10:15 am

    I notice that Barisan Awang Adik (the Barisan choice for Kelant MB, IF they CAN win Kelantan) also contest state and paliment seat. I challenge OKT to to call Awang Adik greedy if he has to balls to do so. (Maybe Choi Soo Lek has more balls). …..

  219. #219 by limkamput on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 1:33 pm

    Whatever you said is fair enough and I apologize for my outburst. You have the right to ask those questions, but I think the timing sucks which prompted me to think that you may be a BN intruder. We only have a few days left before election. You should have asked those question way before the election or after election but certainly not at this critical juncture. You are indirectly reinforcing doubts in the minds of many voters who may want to vote for DAP and other opposition parties.

    Besides, what I hate most among Malaysians is that we are always attaching personalities to party – like who join the party and who leave the party. Politics is about ideal, principle and commitment to a cause. We support a party based on its principle which in the case of DAP is Malaysians First or Malaysian Malaysia. If without this ideal, frankly it does not matter whether LGE or LKS is there or otherwise. Those who have left the party, be there Wee CK, Lee LT, Liew KW, Keh KH must ask themselves whether they still stand of Malaysian Malaysia. If they are not, then it is good riddance. That is why I was rather unsympathetic to FPK of BG when she announced her decision not to contest earlier.

    I am sorry if have misconstrued you. I just feel your questions came at the most inappropriate time.

    As for Papi dog, there is no doubt that he a BN dog and a pervert sexist on the prowl. Ask Jong, she will tell more about this moron.

  220. #220 by limkamput on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 1:51 pm

    One more point. We like to have lots of doubts on opposition parties, particularly on their sincerity and ability to govern or even to be an effective opposition. But have we given the DAP a single day of opportunity to do anything substantive? For 42 years DAP has never been given a single day to rule a state, not to mention at the federal level. For 42 years we have never given the DAP even a sufficient number of seats to play its role as an effective opposition. And yet we have continued to raise doubts of their sincerity and ability. Sometimes, rightly or wrong, I feel that we are victims of indoctrination by MCA and Gerakan.

  221. #221 by Menang atau mati on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 2:45 pm

    Speak up,everybody out there.

    There is a poll on the GE conducted at:

    The poll is being manipulated and spiked by the UMNO/BN cyber troopers.

    When it first started, the poll showed about 8% in for the Barisan and 92 % for The Opposition and it stayed that way for many days ,then there was a spike and it went up to about 11.2% and then dropped slowly to 10.7% yesterday mid-night at about 12.00am.Suddenly today at about 1.35 pm it shot up to 13.4 %.I believe it has been actively spiked by BN/UMNO agents.

    The BN / UMNO cyber troopers are at work actively spiking the poll.

    Visit the site and cast your vote so that it reflect the true sentiments of the RAKYAT.

    Again pleas call all your friends to do so to ,otherwise The BN/Umno with the paid agents will spike the polls to influence the less informed and

  222. #222 by Menang atau mati on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 3:02 pm

    Dear All,
    And especially to Questionman,

    After reading some of Limkamputs’s postings, I think his messages make a lot of sense.

    For one ,I agree with him that what the party stand for is the big picture and who comes in and goes out of the party are actually smaller issues.

    People come and go for many reasons,and it is not easy to stay long in the opposition with little or no rewards being offered.

    People also go because of personality clashes,it is inevitable anywhere.

    There can be only one Supremo in any party at any one time so that one can lead decisively rather than having “2 tigers residing on 1 hill” as the Chinese saying goes.

    If you have “2 tigers”,the party will be engaged in so much infighting that it is so weakened that it will not be able fight the real battles outside the party.

    Imagine if you have 5 Tigers in the party ?

    Warlordism will prevail and there will be anarchy within the party.

    Imagine China in the early 1900 before 1949.Chaos in China because of so many warlords trying to be Supremo,fighting with one another.

  223. #223 by Menang atau mati on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 9:39 pm

    Dear Sheriff Singh and others,

    Do not waste time making projections.

    Just get all your relatives and friends to come out and vote for the RAKYAT.Do not stop talking to people from now till polling day.

    Just go all out.Stop at nothing.

    Its Now or Never.

    I do not fear.Fear not.

    Just do it.

    Fear nobody except GOD!

    Treat this election as the fight between Good and Evil.

    It is a fight between Light and Darkness

    And Light shall always eventually triumph.

    But for that to happen,we must always take that first step.

    God helps those who help themselves

  224. #224 by Come2Papa on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 10:15 pm

    “One more point. We like to have lots of doubts on opposition parties,…..have we given the DAP a single day of opportunity to do anything substantive? For 42 years we have never given… And yet we have continued to raise doubts of their sincerity and ability. … I feel that we are victims of indoctrination by MCA and Gerakan.” Limkamput aka Lebai Kamal bin Put

    Who is “we”??? LOL

  225. #225 by limkamput on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 11:31 pm

    Papi dog
    We here include all, except a donkey which is you, yes you. Only donkey will make such a comment. In fact it is not a comment at all, it is just a donkey braying. The same pathetic donkey that made a pass on Jong. Come on donkey, you must at least know your station in life. Nobody will accept you because you are just a donkey, no standard.

  226. #226 by Come2Papa on Sunday, 2 March 2008 - 11:43 pm

    You mean this is making a pass at Jong??

    Come2Papa Says:
    Yesterday at 01: 37.26

    “Jong, you’re too old to be watching American Idol.”


  227. #227 by Jong on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 1:33 am

    You know what “come2papa”, you are a bleddy annoying moron! Do give some respect to YB Kit for giving us space meant for exchanges and intelligent discussion and not for you to pick on others. Shame on you!

    Just go away and give us some peace. You should stop your nonsence having realised that your offending sexist comment was taken off by the moderator, or have you not?

  228. #228 by Come2Papa on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 2:18 am

    now you see what i mean! the lady is mad because i said she’s too old! and you call that a “pass”


  229. #229 by Come2Papa on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 2:30 am

    one jeniffer just another cyber space personality said to YB “I love you” and i wrote “i love you too” what’s is so sexist about that, huh?

    jong, you got mad because i said you were “too old” to be watching “american idol”. i can understand that. but let’s not get carried away! you were ok up to that point! my apologies if i offended you with that “sexist” remark.

    all of a sudden the word “sexist” has come to mean different things to different people. thanks to BN “bocor” MPs! for many they never heard of the word until it became popular when BN “bocor” MPs first introduced it to parliament.

    “sexist” is an attitude not a vulgar word!

  230. #230 by Come2Papa on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 2:41 am

    let me educate you guys a bit. here’s the meaning of the word “sexism”.

    “sexism” means ” stereotyping or discrimination typically against women on the basis of sex.

    note the word “typically” – a woman can also be sexist in her attitude towards men. it is not an offensive term.

    there you go! hope you get a little education on the word. happy to oblige you in case you need help.

  231. #231 by limkamput on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 10:28 am

    hello papi dog, we the human do not learn from donkey, got it? Donkeys don’t talk, they just bray and that is you, yes you. You don’t tell a lady “you are too old”. Only a donkey will bray such a thing! Nobody needs any help from a donkey. If we need anything from the donkeys, we just whip them. By the way, you could be an old fart.
    It is not just Jong who got mad with you. Please read this: 1. mycroft Says to you: What a stupid and ignorant thing to say. 2. somaris Says this to you: Let me tell u this? Lim kit Siang do good thing for all the people. Tell me what u do for the people ? Please have some respect. Please GROW UP.
    You see, I think most of the people here have a built-in sense of fair play and justice in them. When they see a perverted donkey on the prowl, they know. Yes, don’t get confused again, that perverted donkey is you, papi dog @ darkhorse, dracula, colonel, bodo godamn, diaperhead, blackeye.

  232. #232 by nicky5 on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 11:53 am

    i m not very good in politics, but all i know, this country need a healthy change, i dont mind if a brand new changes to be prove by another party other than bn for 5 years as a sign of competition, it seems there are heavy transparencies felt in this election,
    most we can feel it abt money politics and religion takeover, i dont see any great benefit by continue empire with promises and thing still in transparencies,
    the winning combination arise in BN just because of mixed party into one big umbrella, wherease i dont see any big changes happened after our ex PM step down, even he does a good job, he still set some rule unjustified, it might agree special previledge must be given to bumi, but i dont see any benefits granted by most bumi i know, all we want is a stable economy and peace, oh yeah, BN always threathen us with peace issue, sound like something gonna happen if BN lose, god bless us with this threaT

  233. #233 by Menang atau mati on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 1:10 pm

    In with the New,Out with the Old!

  234. #234 by limkamput on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 2:16 pm

    MCA president Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting said : Any defeat of MCA and Gerakan candidates in the elections will weaken the political strength of the Chinese community in the country’s administration.

    May be we should ask this papi dog, aka come2papi @ darkhorse to elaborate what strength the MCA has got now that will be further weakened. As the mah chai of OKT, I am sure this papi dog can elaborate and help to defense his boss.

    As for me, MCA got strength left meh? I only know Soi Lek got some strength lah! But he also not contesting already.

  235. #235 by limkamput on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 2:20 pm

    Tsu Koon says: Three Gerakan leaders Hock Nan, Chang Yeow and Kah Choon have been told to be “psychologically prepared” to succeed him as Penang Chief Minister.

    See the desperation. Ini main tikam kah, Tsu Koon? You think we so stupid meh. Pretend all three candidates got the chance to be CM so that all the three them and their supporters will give their votes to Gerakan. High hope lah this time around, the party that gerak (move a bit) only and want to kan (you imagine lah what this is) and hence Gerakan. How to survive in this modern time! You got only one post lah, how to give to three fellows? Even that one post also UMNO decides lah, may be is this time Papi bin Paku. But we would prefer LGE lah.

  236. #236 by limkamput on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 2:23 pm

    Lim Keng Yaik said: The people are being used by the DAP “father-and-son team” of Lim Kit Siang and Lim Guan Eng to further their personal and party interest.

    Huh, you sar su ku ar? You gila scumbag you dare say LKS and LGE fighting for personal interest. The whole wide world knows you treat Gerakan like your personal property and even as a so-called advisor, you are still calling all the shots. You son can’t even speak properly lah, how come can he be a Gerakan candidate? Because of scum bag like you, this country has continued to go down the drain. LKS is equivalent to PAP’s LKY, got it? The sooner you “gerak only want to kan” people disappear, the better for ALL Malaysians.

  237. #237 by alberto on Monday, 3 March 2008 - 10:10 pm

    Koh Tsu Koon,
    Go and become a senator and you still can become a minister. Good ridance to kai see CM and not effective CM

  238. #238 by Jong on Tuesday, 4 March 2008 - 12:09 am

    Koh Tsu Koon knows it, he’s edgy about Gerakan/BN’s performance this coming GE. The BN has lost confidence that they’ll be able to form the next Penang State Govt. Also to announce the Chief Minister candidate before the result is out, will only turn out to be an embarrassing affair.

    Furthermore, this spineless ampu-bodek had last month handed this “perogative” to UMNO President Abdullah Ahmad Badawai, remember? He is now too ‘malu’ to remind reporters who interviewed him, that he had already lost that perogative.

  239. #239 by Jong on Tuesday, 4 March 2008 - 12:11 am

    Note: The perogative of the State Govt to choose its
    Chief Minister.

  240. #240 by limkamput on Tuesday, 4 March 2008 - 12:33 am

    I have asked so many times to all the wannabe lawyers here, including the papi dog, what the state constitutions said with regard to appointment of CMs and MBs. No wannabe has come back to me so far. In the meantime, everybody says it is the sleepy PM’s prerogative. Every damn thing in the country is the prerogative of the Prime Minster. We may as well dissolve everything and let him rule alone.

  241. #241 by Jong on Tuesday, 4 March 2008 - 1:36 am

    I watched Abdullah Ahmad Badawi on late night news an hour ago. My gosh, I just thought to myself is he “tengah masak” or “nyanyok” ?

    He dared to claim that the 4 years under his leadership had been a success and he had solved every problem blah blah blah….!

    About Penang, the people have had enough of BN and are fedup to the teeth, don’t even want to have anything to do with them anymore. It’s as good as gone for them!

  242. #242 by Jong on Tuesday, 4 March 2008 - 9:35 am


    I am not sure if the “perogative” is in the State’s constitution but definitely it had been the practice for the party that formed the state government to choose its own Chief Minister.

    Gerakan had been doing that all along and they were horrified why Koh Tsu Koon willingly gave up that right to the UMNO President? What this acting Gerakan chieftian Koh Tsu Koon did has angered the people of Penang. It’s “unforgiving” and they want to punish him that he also looses his seat. Battle call!

  243. #243 by limkamput on Wednesday, 5 March 2008 - 12:16 am

    Yes, Jong, this is the final push, we shall never give up and never doubt. In the next few days, more damaging accusation, threat and “fitnah” will be put up by BN dogs aimed at causing the maximum damage to the oppositions. We have to be prepared. It is definitely coming. The BN are experts in doing stuff like that. Remember what they did to Tengku Razaleigh by accusing him of becoming a Catholic when he was with Semangat 46? Yes, at the last hours they will be doing the ultimate surprise and by then they will probably shut down all communication so that oppositions may not be able to contain the damage. We must prepare our people physiologically for the last minute surprise. Tell our people to be steadfast, never waver and just vote for the oppositions. The present model and system of government no longer works. Just throw every one of them out. Yes every one of them if possible, come what may.

  244. #244 by kickbutt on Wednesday, 5 March 2008 - 2:33 am

    that’s really stupid limkamput!

  245. #245 by limkamput on Wednesday, 5 March 2008 - 3:19 pm

    Who is more stupid, me or someone who named himself to be “kicked at the butt”? Yes people like you should be kicked right in the butt, papi dog. You are such a coward. It is really beyond my imagination you could actually scoop so low just to come after me. What have I done to you other than my feather is too bright for you. It is not really my fault you know. You just have to learn to accept reality; you are not as smart as me. So no matter how hard you tried, you can never out maneuver me, got it?

  246. #246 by undertaker988 on Friday, 7 March 2008 - 2:10 pm

    R papi dog is d same person using “kickbutt” name???

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