Malaysians should do a Sherlock Holmes to find out the “who, when and what“ about the origin of the canard of “urination” at the flagpole of the Selangor Mentri Besar’s house provoking May 13 riots in 1969


Yesterday, I categorically denied the preposterous claim which had appeared previously on the official Facebook page of the May 13 movie, Tanda Putra, that I had urinated on the flagpole in front of the then Selangor Mentri Besar’s residence during the May 13 riots in 1969.

The facebook had carried a photo portraying me being manhandled, with the caption:

“Lim Kit Siang telah kencing di bawah tiang bendera Selangor yang terpacak di rumah menteri besar Selangor ketika itu, Harun Idris, (Lim Kit Siang had urinated at the foot of the flagpole bearing the Selangor flag at the then Selangor MB’s Harun Idris’ house)”

The photo was posted in the album in the Facebook titled ‘Peristiwa-peristiwa yang dimuatkan di dalam filem ini’ (Events depicted in this movie).

Although the photo and caption have since been removed from the movie’s official page, Malaysiakini had captured a screenshot of the earlier posting.

I noted two very pertinent postings from the 69 comments since Malaysiakini reported my denial, viz:

RealSoldier witness513 its simply absurd to accuse LKS performing such despicable act because the flagpole is not freely accessable to the public as it is located within the compound of the MB’s house which is fenced and manned by a jaga. BY accident I was at the MB’s on that fateful day from 3.00am to 5.30am on 514 following rescue operations by the security forces.

FREE The picture of LKS being grabbed and manhandled by officers was taken at the Kota Kinabalu old airport terminal. Those officers in white-shirt uniforms were immigration officers when Harris Salleh ordered the deportation of LKS from Sabah. This writer was inside a plane and saw from the window LKS being put put in a wheelchair and wheeled to the plane for deportation back to KL.

What RealSoldier posted made eminent sense, as in 1969 I never knew where was the official residence of the Selangor Mentri Besar, let alone that it has a flagpole “located within the compound of the MB’s house which is fenced and manned by a jaga”.

This posting exposes the downright lie and dangerous falsehood that I or anyone could have urinated at the foot of the flagpole at the then Selangor Mentri Besar’s house – when it was within a confined and guarded compound.

The second posting is an eye-witness account of the origin of the photograph shown on the Tanda Putra official facebook.

The photograph was not taken in 1969 but 15 years later at the Kota Kinabalu Airport old terminal on August 26, 1984.

I had flown into Kota Kinabalu that morning en route to Sandakan in response to a challenge by the then Sabah Chief Minister, Datuk Harris Salleh to repeat my speech in Parliament on July 23, 1984 outside Parliament without the benefit of parliamentary privilege on Harris’ abuses of powers as Sabah Chief Minister in particular with regard to Labuan being carved out of Sabah and made a Federal Territory.

I had challenged Harris to name the place and date for me to repeat my parliamentary speech, and when Harris named the Dewan Masyarakat Sandakan on August 26 at 10 am, I immediately accepted them and flew into Kota Kinabalu with the then DAP Deputy National Chairman and MP for Jelutong Karpal Singh enroute to Sandakan for the occasion.

But at the Kota Kinabalu Airport, I was denied entry on the directive of the Sabah Chief Minister who had challenged me to repeat my parliamentary speech against him in Sandakan later the same morning!

I was told to take the same flight out to return to Kuala Lumpur. In the two-and-a-half-hour standoff with the immigration authorities, I made it very clear that denying me entry into Sabah was a gross abuse of Sabah immigration autonomy powers and I was not prepared to leave my own country on my own free. I told them that they will have to bodily carry up the plane. Finally, they put me in a wheelchair and bodily carried up the flight steps to the waiting plane.

That was the 1984 Kota Kinabalu photograph which Tanda Putra official facebook had used as one of the May 13, 1969 photographs!

The two postings are the real stuff of people’s history, unalloyed and unadulterated by lies and falsehoods.

Let us have more real people’s history on what actually happened.

“RealSolder” has debunked not only the lie that I had urinated at the flagpole of the Selangor Mentri Besar’s house, but that anyone else could have done it as the flagpole is within the confined and guarded compound of the Mentri Besar’s house.

But how did the canard of the “urination” at the Selangor Mentri Besar’s house, provoking the May 13 riots, originate?

Since the Tanda Putra official facebook entry, I had asked around whether anyone had ever heard of any “urination” incident at the flagpole of the Selangor Mentri Besar’s house provoking May 13 riots, and nobody has ever heard of it before.

Neither the White Paper issued by the National Operations Council on 9th October 1969 entitled “The May 13 Tragedy” nor Tunku Abdul Rahman’s book “May 13 – Before & After” made any reference to any such urination incident at the Selangor Mentri Besar’s residence.

This has become the Urine-Gate or Pee-Gate of Malaysia.

Malaysians should do a Sherlock Holmes to find out the “who, when and what“ about the origin the canard of “urination” at the flagpole of the Selangor Mentri Besar’s house provoking May 13 riots in 1969 – for if there is no truth whatsoever, it should put to rest once and for all.

When did anyone first heard of such a canard? Or is it a very recent vintage – just for Tanda Putra?

It is indeed sad and tragic when all efforts should be made on the occasion of the approaching 55th Merdeka Day/49th Malaysia Day to emphasise the unity in diversity of the Malaysian nation, there seems to be anti-national elements out to create racial distrust and dissension and undermine national harmony by spreading the most vicious lies and falsehoods about the history of the nation.

If the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s 1Malaysia slogan and policy is to have any meaning at all, I call on all Malaysians to prove that they are Malaysians in heart and soul on the occasion of the 55th Merdeka Day/49th Malaysia Day!

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  1. #1 by good coolie on Sunday, 5 August 2012 - 3:58 pm

    Who started the May-13 incident? Is the fellow dead or alive?

  2. #2 by boh-liao on Sunday, 5 August 2012 - 4:45 pm

    No need 2 find out lah, rakyat know all not true 1 lah
    But need 2 find out did fat mamah personally pay 4 her return ticket (economy, business or first class?) 2 London

  3. #3 by boh-liao on Sunday, 5 August 2012 - 4:47 pm

    No need 2 find out lah, rakyat know all not true 1 lah
    But need 2 find out did fat mamah personally pay 4 her return ticket (economy, business or first cl@ss?) 2 London

  4. #4 by Bigjoe on Sunday, 5 August 2012 - 5:05 pm

    Let me insist that those who perpetrated this KNOW its a lie. let me also put it that there are many Malays who know its a lie. So why do they insist on telling a lie that they know can be exposed?

    Because they are making a bet that few Malays will stand up against the lie. The goal is not to get Malays to believe the lie – the goal is to get the Malays to deny the truth i.e., to run away from the truth and back into the web of lies that is the UMNO/BN sphere of influence.

    Like it or not the implication of the truth of May 13, is that it taints much what has been supposedly achieved by the Malays for decades and further confronts the ugly painful truth of those failures – each corruption, each mega project failures, injustices, crime, educational failures, continue poverty etc..

    The idea here is that its not so much that they want to paint the fear of repeat of May 13, but rather the pain of confronting the truth of May 13.

    In other words, these lies are not meant to hurt the non-Malays or LKS, its meant to hurt the Malays, meant to manipulate, insult them..

  5. #5 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 5 August 2012 - 7:02 pm

    And the spokepersons of the movie claim that the film was based on a lot of research, such as studying documented materials and photographs, to make sure the scenes were backed by historical facts? Do they deny that movie’s was subsidized by government-run National Film Development Corporation (Finas)? Utusan Deputy chief editor said that media practitioners are allowed to spin the facts to paint a “desired picture” to the reader but frankly is this kind of outright fabrication of a lie Ok ? When May 13 is used, as is now for propaganda, it opens the Pandora Box of those who know the truth to now openly say it to rebut/correct the lies. It may have a boomerang effect, when this happens.

  6. #6 by dagen wanna "ABU" on Sunday, 5 August 2012 - 7:08 pm

    So utusan, do you regard this as a mere spin?

  7. #7 by Loh on Sunday, 5 August 2012 - 8:54 pm

    May 13 was attributed to some Chinese telling Malays in 1969 to go back to villages. Were UMNO members and some Malay teachers telling Chinese Malaysians to go back to China calculated to have a repeat of May 13?

  8. #8 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Sunday, 5 August 2012 - 10:13 pm

    Is UMNO trying to re-write history again?

    And is this new history going into SPM history syllabus?

    No wonder Muhyiddin thinks Malaysian education is improving and world-class.

  9. #9 by monsterball on Sunday, 5 August 2012 - 11:26 pm

    Kit Siang has repeatedly said he was not in K.Lumpur during May 13th riot and UMNO b hypocrites and sickos hope young Malaysians were not old enough to read that and start their nonsense again to fish for votes in the most lowest class ways possible.

  10. #10 by boh-liao on Monday, 6 August 2012 - 2:07 am

    Mayb M’sia will get her 1st Olympic gold medal when squash is included as an Olympic event

  11. #11 by undertaker888 on Monday, 6 August 2012 - 7:51 am

    This is the classic case of intentional sins of lyIng, stealing, killing and whatnot in daylight and pray for forgiveness by night. These are all the slimeballs.

  12. #12 by PoliticoKat on Monday, 6 August 2012 - 8:08 am

    This is the first time I have ever heard of this peeing story. I am sure if it were even real, the BN history books would have every student memories it and demonized LKS

    So fail whale, BN.

  13. #13 by yhsiew on Monday, 6 August 2012 - 9:00 am

    Sherlock Holmes will probably ask who was the kind-hearted guard at the Selangor MB’s house to let LKS in to urinate at the flagpole.

    A primary school boy would not urinate on a street, let alone an adult. Such allegation on LKS is devoid of logic. It merely reflects the stupidity of the script writer, who may well be suffering from mental illness.

  14. #14 by dagen wanna "ABU" on Monday, 6 August 2012 - 9:01 am

    Umno (through its media that kutusan something) said it does not believe in lies. (Ooookay) But it is alright to spin stories. (huh!!??) And that, according to umno, is not lying. (wot??) Aiyah. Spins. Lies. What is the diff? Tak apa lah. Umno prefers the word spin. Let it be spin, then.

    Look at this latest umno spin. LKS took a leak somewhere, spun umno. And that, it was further spun, was the act that triggered may 13. It was a fact for umno had researched it well. Well researched huh, umno? Like all the other spins, this one too will surely end up in umno’s face.

    First, umno said, an eight yr old kid was responsible for the may 13 incident. Having somehow realised the stupidity of that claim (much too late in the day of course), umno changed the direction of its fire. It seems now, it was the 8 yr old kid’s father’s pee that caused the may 13 incident. My god! The first claim was stupid. And now, this second claim is stupid and outright ridiculous! My neighbour’s dog, wong choy, was rolling in laughter when it heard the joke about the pee -ok ok just my imagination alright, this one, about the laughing dog.

    But really. My god! Wot’s your next spin, umno? That kid, well that kid whose father’s pee caused the may 13 riot – yeah his future grandchildren caused the explosion of umno’s lynas plant and as a result the whole country was annihilated (and ooops, singapore too, inevitable but unintended collateral damage)?

    Wow. Umno, keep your spins coming.

    JJ1B
    RR1C!

  15. #15 by Godfather on Monday, 6 August 2012 - 10:06 am

    No, I was the one. I climbed over the wall of Harun Idris’ house and pee’ed on the base of the flagpole. Luckily the dogs were all asleep.

  16. #16 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Monday, 6 August 2012 - 11:40 am

    Whoever is responsible for this PissGate better opt for cremation or burial at sea – otherwise he will find people queuing up to piss on his grave.

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