Umno Youth chief Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein has denied that his statement on what Gerakan Youth deputy chief S. Paranjothy said was a threat.
Hishammudin said he was not threatening anyone nor being emotional when he said that Umno Youth and Barisan Nasional would sever relationship with Gerakan if the Gerakan Acting President Tan Sri Dr. Koh Tsu Koon could not give a satisfactory explanation and response on Paranjothy’s statement for saying two things:
• that the 30,000 Indians who took part in the Hindraf demonstration in Kuala Lumpur on November 25 did so to express their frustration and anger because the community had been “marginalized, oppressed and ignored”.
• Blaming Umno leaders, particularly the Umno Youth Leader Hishammuddin and Deputy Umno Youth Leader Khairy Jamaluddin for racial posturing and inciting racial sentiments among Malays to gain political mileage – citing as examples the keris-wielding episodes against the former and the public castigation of the Indian news vendors by the latter when the Umno presidential address of Prime Minister and Umno President, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi was not carried in the press the next day as the Umno general assembly fell on Deepavali, with the next day an annual press holiday.
Hishamuddin’s denial that his statement on Paranjothy was a threat raises the question what would be Tsu Koon’s reaction if the Umno Youth had issued his “threat”.
Hishammuddin was however denying the undeniable as everyone, except him, would have recognized that he had issued an ultimatum and a threat.
Tsu Koon had issued a plaintive complaint that Hishammuddin should not make statements ”that can mar relationship between component parties within Barisan” when he should have berated Hishammuddin for his arrogance and presumption in threatening that the Barisan Nasional would sever relationship with Gerakan as if all the 14 Barisan Nasional component parties and their leaders, including the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister, have no minds of their own and were all at the Umno Youth leader’s beck and call!
In being forced to take disciplinary action against Paranjothy, Tsu Koon should have protested against Barisan Nasional double-standards where Umno and Umno Youth leaders enjoy immunity from disciplinary action for criticizing, insulting and even threatening leaders of other Barisan Nasional component parties while ultimatums are issued by Umno and Umno Youth leaders against leaders of other Barisan Nasional component parties if they are criticized by the other Barisan Nasional component parties.
The least Tsu Koon should have done when referring Paranjothy to the Disciplinary Committee is to lodge a strong protest against the strong-armed tactics and double standards of Hishammuddin, as well as validating Paranjothy’s sentiments about the long-standing marginalization of the Malaysian Indians leading to the Nov. 25 Hindraf demonstration by 30,000 Indians as being most pertinent and legitimate.
Information Minister Datuk Seri Zainuddin Maidin said yesterday that the people should give little importance to the remarks by Paranjothy because there were more people with a rational mind in the Barisan Nasional component parties who could make themselves heard above him.
But Hishammuddin clearly does not agree for he had said in Maran that Umno Youth will answer all allegations made by Paranjothy against Umno and its leaders as Paranjothy’s accusations were serious and aimed at Umno Youth leaders, including Khairy Jamaluddin and himself.
Tsu Koon should requisition for a Barisan Nasional Supreme Council meeting to demand that Umno and Umno Youth leaders stop bullying and intimidating the leaders from the other Barisan Nasional component parties and a review why the Barisan Nasional has deviated so far from its original concept as a coalition of equals to one which is ruled by an over-dominant Umno and 13 other voiceless and powerless component parties.

#1 by chiakchua on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 6:21 am
The UMNOputra agenda:
If KTK does not take the KRISmudin instruction, out Gerakan go!
In the next GE, they would go all out to swamp Penang, telling all the Non-Malays, UMNO is for all, they will still ‘make sure’ of a Chinese ‘puppet’ chief minister even if MCA only get 1 seat! “what a heart warming deed!?”
After that, under the pretext of ‘to pacify the Malay community’, the CM post will be handed over to the Malay.
And once taken over, well, the same like NEP, its their ‘right’!
PLEASE DON’T MAKE IT AN ISSUE!!!!!!!!!!! (YELL THE UMNOputras)
LKY, please go mad! Speak up! Please tell the UMNOputras what were the agreements when Tun Razak trying to get Gerakan and Pas to form the BN in 1969? Let all Malaysians know the history before some of you who were at the helm then are gone!
#2 by Count Dracula on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 6:23 am
“I suggest that take this incidents as a blessing to strategize better for the next election. Paranjothy should be allowed to run as a DAP candidate and win his constituency and that will shame UMNO and Koh. I feel nothing else will shame them.”
What about the time he spent opposing DAP, serving the party DAP has been opposing vehemently? What about DAP loyalists who have been waiting for their turn for years to be nominated for that seat?
#3 by pulau_sibu on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 7:02 am
>some said that Pak Lah is the weakest PM in Msian history and I say he is a useless and hopeless one.
The PM should not be overly strong like a dictator (like Mahathir). But he should not be so weak as he is controlled by others and could not exert any influence. It seems to us as if his son in law is running his job?
#4 by Jimm on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 8:00 am
though it’s becoming worst for us to know ..
all of us need to pass through this path somehow, someday…
let it be that we are the generation that witness these rather than our children.
let us bear witness to all those past mistakes and short terms achievements failures so that our children can have their own future to begin fresh again…
most of our politicians are living in the shadow of the past and wear masks in their daily life..
monies are the main reason that they are so involved in that areas and stay in power means they are winner ..
the whole idea of getting involved in politics in Malaysia wasn’t because they want to serve … it’s so that they can be serve ..
#5 by Jimm on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 8:09 am
HTHO is the 3rd generation decending from JO, as I was told once before by a friend that normally nothing lasted more than the 3rd generations in their beliefs …
Well, somehow .. there is some level of truth in his sharing here.
That goes to says that the universal laws are mightier than ourselves.
#6 by Jimm on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 8:10 am
I believe it’s OJ rather than JO .. sorry typo error.
#7 by dawsheng on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 8:44 am
“What about the time he spent opposing DAP, serving the party DAP has been opposing vehemently? What about DAP loyalists who have been waiting for their turn for years to be nominated for that seat?”
The only problem is can he win the seat?
#8 by k1980 on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 9:05 am
Pssst.. don’t make so much noise. The iman’s dozing and dreaming and singing the following in his blissful sleep—
Row, row, row your boat
Gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
Life is but a dream.
#9 by negarawan on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 10:01 am
Can someone tell Tsu Koon that there are still dead rats and cats floating in the drainage in front his office?
#10 by Toyol on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 1:53 pm
As usual people who tell the truth are always victimised. We all know the lies and deceit that BN has wrecked upon us. Paranjothy was telling the truth. IN fact, his statement not just reflects the marginalisation of Indians but also the Chinese and all non muslims. Tell me the Ibans and Kadazan Dusuns in East M’sia are not marginalised!
#11 by helpless on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 2:36 pm
The sad part of Malaysia politic is many were failed to see the future problems of having “third class mentality” and cheated by the “BN ‘s controlled ” media.
Some extremist crying for ” ketuanan Melayu ” are just making themselves to be lacked behind in 21st century and thinking they are saviour.
http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/26/man-may-not-solve-man-made-problems/
#12 by shaolin on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 3:36 pm
UMNO and AAB talking on Policy is number 2, but
implementing the Policy and follow-up process is
Number 9!!
They flunked and scored ZERO mark!!
#13 by pwcheng on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 4:26 pm
“Umno Youth chief Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein has denied that his statement on what Gerakan Youth deputy chief S. Paranjothy said was a threat”.
This is not the firs time he had threatened a Component party and to deny it is either he do not know the meaning of threat or his bloated feeling of supremacy has made him think that such action do no constitute a threat, not until he unsheathed his keris and draws blood.
Not so long ago if anybody can remember he had also threatened MCA, please see reply from MCA:
Surat terbuka kepada Ketua Pergerakan Pemuda UMNO
22 Julai 2007
Kami, ahli-ahli muda MCA, menyokong penuh pendirian dan usaha murni MCA menyumbang kepada pembangunan negara dan rakyat Malaysia.
Kami membidas tindakan Ketua Pergerakan Pemuda UMNO yang memberi “Amaran kepada MCA†melalui akhbar Berita Harian (tajuk utama, Sabtu 21 Julai 2007) yang meneruskan politik polemik mengintepretasikan semula perlembagaan persekutuan Malaysia. Ini berlaku walaupun pada hari Khamis 19 Julai, 2007, Kementerian Dalam Negeri telah mengarahkan media arus perdana supaya jangan menyiarkan sebarang berita mengenai Malaysia sebagai sebuah negara Islam. Perbuatan Ketua Pergerakan Pemuda UMNO langsung tidak menghormati larangan yang telah dikeluarkan oleh KDN yang mewakili kerajaan negara.
Kenyataan Ketua Pergerakan Pemuda UMNO terhadap pemimpin MCA yang merupakan rakan kongsi utama BN, tidak membawa manfaat kepada sesiapa kerana ia tidak membawa kebaikan kepada mana-mana pihak.
Kami memberi nasihat ikhlas kepada Ketua Pemuda UMNO supaya mengingati semangat BN yang telah menjadi teras kerjasama dan muafakat selama 49 tahun Malaysia merdeka. Perbuatan mengeluarkan amaran terhadap sesebuah rakankongsi seperjuangan BN juga memperlekehkan semangat toleransi, hormat-menghormati dan bermuafakat.
Kami menyarankan pihak yang berkenaan seupaya melihat Perlembagaan Persekutuan Malaysia secara menyeluruh, bukannya mengambil sesuatu fasal atau fakta secara terasing kerana ini tindakan pihak yang jahil mengenai latar belakang, semangat dan kesefahaman yang telah dipersetujui di antara semua rakyat Malaysia yang menjadi teras membawa kepada pembentukan negara Malaysia yang merdeka.
LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT BUREAU
MCA Bangsar
Anyway whatever he can say, all non-Bumis and many Malays knows what type of character he is. He is a bad extension of the Hussein Onn’s family.
#14 by pwcheng on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 5:32 pm
# Saint Says:
Yesterday at 21: 37.36
“All these must be taken as positive happenings for opposition. DAP must study how it can take this to its advantage”.
That is a very dangerous strategy. Nobody likes an opportunist.
#15 by sj on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 7:05 pm
Hishamuddin, I nominate you to be the biggest Douche in the Universe. Hope you win ok?
#16 by shamshul anuar on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 10:27 pm
Dear Readers.
I refer to comments on remarks by Paramjothi and subsequent response by Hishamuddin. It is interesting to see the former claimed “from the bottom of his heart” and yet still remain in Gerakan.
If Mr Paramjothi does not agree with policies of Barisan National, he should leave . By all mean criticize but do spare the insulting remarks on UMNO. I mean everybody knows how Hindraf lied . Why on earth Paramjothi must agree with it.
As for Hishamuddin, he should be more diplomatic in his remarks. A slip of tongue can be damaging for a politician. and I see nothing wrong with Koh Tsu Koon’s remarks. I believe he is a mature leader. He does not sanction what Paramjothi said. Neither he is happy to the response by Hishamuddin.
And Paramjothi’s remarks confirms what UMNO feels all along. That many who claim to be objective tend to “ignore” what Paamjothi said and put the blame squarely on UMNO.
And those who claimed that UMNO is so fond to “bully” other BN component party should revisit history. Way back in 1959, then President of MCA, Dr Lim Chong Eu sent ultimatum TO UMNO that it will not cooperate with UMNO if not given more seat.
UMNO, not used to this kind of politics responded that it is up for MCA whether to stay or go out of Perikatan. Fortunately good sense prevails among MCA leaders. They realized that UMNO alone can set the Federal Govt( as at Merdeka, UMNO controls 34 out of 52 seats) .
As for Mr Chiakchua, there is no such thing as UMNOputra. There is no denying that millions of Malays and non Malays benefit from govt policies( meaning UMNO led govt). By the way, dont anyone from this forum realize how A Chinese Chamber of Commerce put a statement on the facade of its building about the closure of a Chinese School in Damansara. See. Extremism also exists in your community Chiakchua. The bottom line is that “it lies”.
#17 by shaolin on Thursday, 27 December 2007 - 11:01 pm
KrisMuddin is not tactful and always emotional in
delivering his speeches.
He is inmature most of the time in his thinking and
the way he looks at matters and issues. Worse still
being emotional and reckless in decision making!!
A very lousy leader!! Malang nya nasib kita dan negara
kita semua!!! Bad choice!!! Oxford graduate, KJ also
behaves like street hooligan leading a street demonstration
in front of America Embassy some time ago…!!
Very Bad Choice too!! Suggest KJ looks to Uncle Lee Kuan
Yew and his son, PM Lee Shien Loong to learn 1 thing or
2 if he is bright enough to catch what they say and do…!!
#18 by EARNEST on Friday, 28 December 2007 - 1:10 am
It is however relevant to point out that to suggest Tsu Koon requisitions for a Barisan Nasional Supreme Council meeting to demand the stopping of Umno Youth leaders’ bullying and intimidating the leaders from the other Barisan Nasional component parties is a “poison fruit†to invite his political suicide and prematurely end his political career as Chief Minisiter of Penang! If he were to make such a requisition he would himself be hauled up for breaking BN’s ranks. – Jeffrey
Probably YB Lim is thinking about social etiquette protocol, and maintaining the dignity of the office of President of a component party of BN. Daring to take risk is a quality of leadership.
UMNO Young Turks are obviously not trained in social etiquette protocols.
If your kid (Paranjothy) fights with his classmate (Hisham), it is against social etiquette for your kid’s classmate to rebuke you (Koh Tsu Koon). You don’t smack your kid’s classmate. You deal with your kid’s classmate’s father (Barisan Nasional Supreme Council). You may conclude that your kid’s classmate has bad upbringing, which reflects badly on his father.
If UMNO Old Turks allow the Young Turks to show disrespect to component parties’ Old Turks, then something is wrong with the relationship.
As suggested by YB Lim, Tsu Koon as Head of Gerakan must seriously consider requisitioning for a Barisan Nasional Supreme Council meeting to demand the stopping of Umno Youth leaders’ bullying and intimidating the leaders from the other Barisan Nasional component parties if he wants Gerakan to be treated as equal partners, unless he is willing to allow Gerakan and other component parties to be subordinated to the Young Turks, and/or unless his position is so weak as to be at the mercy of UMNO.
It is Tsu Koon’s responsibility to maintain the dignity of the office of President of Gerakan. He should tell the Young Turks off by saying “You may not wish to show me, Tsu Koon any respect but you must respect the President of Gerakan!â€, instead of kowtowing to them and offering Paranjothy as sacrificial lamb.
N.B.
– “poison fruit†is not found in any dictionary. Jeffrey, kindly explain its meaning.
– “passion fruit†is closest occurring in 15 dictionaries
– “Forbidden fruit†found in 14 dictionaries, meaning anything that is tempting but dangerous (as sexuality)
– Fruit of the poisonous tree is a legal term in the United States used to describe evidence gathered with the aid of information obtained illegally. The logic of the terminology is that if the source of the evidence (the “tree”) is tainted, then anything gained from it (the “fruit”) would be likewise.
#19 by ktteokt on Friday, 28 December 2007 - 9:02 am
The Chinese and Indian civilizations are well known throughout the world and have been around for some six millenniums, what about Malay civilization? It has been around for only six centuries. How to compare their brains which required time to develop and evolve? Refer to Charles Darwin’s “Origin of Species” for further information.
#20 by shaolin on Friday, 28 December 2007 - 12:14 pm
No wonder the UMNOputras and Elite Malays cannot
comprehend issues well and slow in actions…!!
Their brains need time to evolve and develop…still
very new and seldom make use of it…!!!
#21 by sj on Friday, 28 December 2007 - 5:34 pm
Tsu Koon requisition to BN Supreme Council? No way man, the most recent news, where BN party whip Najis, just stepped in and increased the pressure on Tsu Koon by clearly stating that Paranjothy deserves to be punished meaning that Tsu Koon wont have any say anymore. His so called requisition will be drowned in a mob environment of BN. So do you think Tsu Koon doing requisition is even practical? I dare say, it is totally not practical. In theory you can say he should do this and that, but in practise, he is not going to do it, Paranjothy will be made example of for BN/UMNO to keep their component party in check. The reason is they are trying to do damage control to prevent more people within from uttering out dissatisfaction and truth. That is how a corrupted organisation work. You make that you silenced the most vocal and charismatic person, and the rest will dare not raise this issue to challenge your authority.
#22 by Jeffrey on Friday, 28 December 2007 - 6:38 pm
EARNEST: ‘Poison fruit’ is used by me as a metaphor to describe, by way of figure of speech, something that, by outward appearance, looks tempting, just like a tasty and succulent “fruitâ€, but to actually succumb to the temptation of taking a bite exposes one to peril, as the word “poison†is suggestive of some malignity of nature or purpose.
#23 by DarkHorse on Friday, 28 December 2007 - 10:49 pm
EVIDENCE Act Malaysia
How much of information received from accused may be proved
27. When any fact is deposed to as discovered in consequence of information received from a person accused of any offence in the custody of a police officer, so much of such information, whether such information amounts to a confession or not, as relates distinctly to the fact thereby discovered may be proved.
Sec. 27 above dilutes, if you will, or reduces the severity of the doctrine of the “fruit of the poisonous tree”.
#24 by EARNEST on Saturday, 29 December 2007 - 1:35 am
Jeffrey,DarkHorse,
Thanks for the elaborations.
#25 by Loh on Saturday, 29 December 2007 - 7:41 am
///Gerakan today welcomed Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak’s statement that the ties between Umno and Gerakan were not affected by the personal attack on Umno by Gerakan Youth vice-chairman S.Paranjothy./// NST online 28/12/2007
PM AAB is still maintaining his elegant silence. Is he still in control?
#26 by chgchksg128 on Saturday, 29 December 2007 - 11:01 pm
http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/2007/12/when-i-stucked-in-traffic-jam-arund-6.html
http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/2007/12/i-get-to-read-this-columnist-in-bangkok.html
This is typical malaysian relationship between races.
OPur racial issue is liability…..Bangkok post say so….refer the link above.
#27 by Evenmind on Sunday, 30 December 2007 - 9:46 am
Hishammudin is a Kris weilding ganster, he’s the who’s undermining the ‘peace’ (the little that we have) of this country) He’s the one ho should be put behind bars under the ISA., not the people who just question their birth rights of this country. watch out next time he might bring a barzooka to the parliament. Kia su kun , why should u chicken out when he speaks, cos u r just their stooge, well done Paranjothy, U are the MAN., We need more of u’s in our parliament., Samy is an absolute disgrace., so thick skinned that he not bothered when he got booed recently in Penang., he should be investigated by the ACA for all the wealth he has accomulated all these years, especially his property portfolio in Australia., he is not resigning because he’s still too busy accumulating more wealth . To be absurdlly rich is be connected strongly polictically , that’s the way all the rich hay is made. So to protect the status quo, you got to act like gangsters too, like our disgraced politicians.
#28 by ktteokt on Sunday, 30 December 2007 - 10:21 am
Luckily KTK did not hold up the “Federal Constitution” this time as what Liao from MCA did. Think what good is the Federal Constitution compared to the kris in the hand of Hishamuddin? You may talk law but this dungdut talks force!
#29 by miwaki on Friday, 4 January 2008 - 11:23 am
You see,there are many nuisance ministers in UMNO and Hisap-putin is one of them.This chap so call Hisap-putin is a liability to us Malaysians because he is not bright but very good at playing political games.
Tsu Koon is another “lembek” chief minister of Penang,in term of quality.Tsu Koon can put Hisap-putin in his pocket but because Gerakan is just a “kacang putih ” party in BN,Tsu Koon has to be careful whenever he has to deal with UMNO the big brothers.Gerakan and opposition together can form the next government of Penang if Tsu Koon dare to pull out of BN.But because of selfishness,Gerakan prefer to be subservient to UMNO and endure the humiliation by UMNO on a regular basis.Even KJ the “small boy ” has the gut to question Tsu Koon on the so call marginalisation of malay in the island.How can we,Penagites support Gerakan when he is so timid and without dignity.I would rather have Nik Aziz as chief minister of Penang then to be humiliated by UMNO under Gerakan.