— Ali Kadir
The Malaysian Insider
Oct 19, 2011
OCT 19 — I find it incredulous that so much angst and disbelief has been exhibited by Opposition politicians, pundits and readers of news portals, including The Malaysian Insider, over the lies that Lim Guan Eng’s son had behaved inappropriately towards a girl in his school and the matter was hushed up.
This is Umno. Should any of us be surprised with politicians from that party?
It has been my point for a while that the only hope for Umno is for the party to lose it all at the next polls, and do a major overhaul while in the wilderness, find new leaders, rediscover a moral core and come back.
The party is tired, bankrupt of ideas or people of integrity. It is a fallacy to believe that the second line of politicians such as Khairy or that Kota Belud MP will be any different from the corrupt batch of ministers and MPs who sad to say are leaders of Malaysia.
They have been cut from the same cloth as the likes of Ibrahim Ali and only know about patronage politics and benefiting from the government largesse of contracts.
At a time when the world economy is slumping and every responsible government is thinking about doing its best to prepare its country for a soft landing, Umno has been doing the only thing it knows what to do — indulge in lies.
No one believes Najib Razak’s growth estimates of 5 and 6 per cent next year, not even the MIER or banks.
But in Parliament, it is business as usual as Umno/BN MPs have been in denial mode (I don’t believe 99 per cent of them even know what they are talking about when they speak about the economy).
So my advice to Lim Guan Eng and the rest of his supporters is stop wasting time by reacting with shock and indignation at the tactics being employed by your opponents. Leopards can’t change their stripes, nor devils change their ways.
The last line is a message that all of us Malaysians should keep in our hearts and ponder.
#1 by Bigjoe on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 9:18 am
There are some Malaysian who are incredibly insightful. I particularly love the suggestion that non-Muslim have a HIMPUN to protest accusation of trying to convert Muslim. Ironic they can’t do it when its the truth but HIMPUN can do it when its a lie..
#2 by monsterball on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 9:28 am
UMNO b is getting more and more ridiculous with their politics.
Manufactured sex scandals….churned out with no shame.
Giving false reports with false hopes….treating Malaysians as idiots….just believe all they say…no need to think and read.
#3 by dagen on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 9:31 am
Resorting to falsehood proves one point. Guan eng’s character and work record must be pretty impeccable. That is why umno has no real or substantive complaints to make. So the next best thing umno could do is to do what umno is best at. Make up things. Frame people. Then use their control over the media to fan up the matter. Lend the falsehood with some credibility or at least to sway, hopefully, some simple minds. Of course those idiots did not realise that they have just kicked up a storm. And the storm is coming their way! And my wish to them: pls get drown in the storm all of you, umno.
#4 by boh-liao on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 9:43 am
U know, dat Dr blogger tot d CHESS lassie is a CHEST lassie, good 4 play play lor
Our msm r still excellent sources of mass sex education, courtesy of UmnoB/BN
#5 by boh-liao on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 9:44 am
Aisay, man, dat Taiwanese woman does not know how lucky she is, cos our boh hud fela is so envious of her n would switch place with her any time
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/10/20/nation/9730643&sec=nation
#6 by boh-liao on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 9:46 am
U know, dat Dr liar tot d CHESS lassie is a CHEST lassie, good 4 play play lor
Our msm r still excellent sources of mass sex education, courtesy of UmnoB/BN
#7 by DAP man on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 10:54 am
Wonder what would Hitler have done with these UMNO demagogues and wild beasts?
Send to the gas-chamber?
And we have many more joining these UMNO demagogues and wild beasts this Saturday in the name of religion.
Can any nation go any lower than this Bolehland where “Believe in God” is its first credo?
#8 by k1980 on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 11:13 am
//No one believes Najib Razak’s growth estimates of 5 and 6 per cent next year, not even the MIER or banks.//
This means that the GST will be immediately imposed after the 13GE (should BN wins) so as to make up for the massive amount of money squandered in the recent Budget.
#9 by negarawan on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 12:07 pm
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-19/malaysia-losses-from-racial-law-exposed-by-foreigners-in-penang.html
This is a front page article in Bloomberg today and it highlights the amazing progress the country can achieve when UMNO/BN is kicked out of the government. Well done Penang and LGE!
#10 by HJ Angus on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 12:10 pm
I agree that UMNO needs to be sent for REHAB….hopefully a stint in Opposition for at least 5 years will give them the chance to reform.
#11 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 12:15 pm
///Should any of us be surprised with politicians from that party?/// – Ali Kadir.
Maybe because they perceive party is on the decline. Such a situtation makes them more reckless- and dangerous. Those already ensconced in top positions are desperate to preserve their vested interests at all costs; those below, sensing there’s not too much time left to gather hay, try to ascend the party heirarchy by either (A) pulling those at the top down or (B) score points to garner attention to their value to the party by attacking Opposition ferociously even to the extent of below the belt. Was it not MCA’s Dr CSL who once said that gutter politics had been dominant since 2008 (immediately after BN’s electoral debacle in 308) though his case was (A) when his party rivals were alleged by him to have set the trap of filming him? Even UMNO ex honcho -Tun Dr Mahathir- lamented about gutter politics when commenting on circulation of PKR’s Elizabeth Wong’s semi-nude photographs. Of course he forgot that it was during his admin that started the tone when he sought the downfall of his own deputy via the Sodomy 1 Charge.
#12 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 12:41 pm
Situation (B) in preceding post will be exemplified by cases such as the 3 “Political Has been” trying to revive their political fortunes by taking initiative to accelerate Anwar’s downfall by the Carcosa tape viewing, and the latest, Dr Novandri/Khairy Jamaluddin’s attack on LGE’s son. I take Gutter Politics means ‘below the belt’ political attack at personal level against political opponents. It is not attack at objective intellectual ideological level regarding who is right/wrong; it is attack at personal level targeted at the political opponents’ and their family members’ private so called moral conduct – moral always having something having to do with sex or sexual misconduct. Outsiders will think Malaysians are sex obsessed as a result of sex repressed! (As I mentioned earlier TDM set the tone: ever since sodomy I, now II, Malaysian learn sex lexicon/concepts from reports on the trial.
#13 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 12:41 pm
That does not explain all. There are 2 other developments: (1) increasing religious conservatism (also a TDM’s legacy) seeing morality police enforcing morals in public parks/raid on hotels (2) the fact that corruption is endemic & systemic implies everyone in power is guilty, which means its an unspoken understanding/rule that when attacking one’s rival within one’s own party in situation (A) above, its better not to focus on on corruption that the attacker himself is also guilty of. (Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones!) Which leaves only one other effective alternative available – attack his sexual morality….In case of (B) (ie attack on Opposition), using corruption (enforced selectively by MACC) is OK except that there’s a problem – opposition leaders are clean because of either personal integrity (like LGE) or haven’t had the opportunity at power to be corrupt. So again Gutter Politics based on sex is a convenient weapon!
#14 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 1:14 pm
Even here in this blog, the record will show that I have always eschewed from personal attack on politicians (eg Dr CSL) or ex CJ (Zaki) – even if I disagree with their politics- on lines of their personal behaviour/improprieties relating to sexual behaviour. My defence of them – drawing a line between their capability to discharge public office duties and so called personal sexual imbroglios – had in the past drawn fierce and vociferous criticisms from some readers here. I have defended them, as I would equally defend any Opposition politician from such attacks from BN’s side- is not necessarily because I think that these sexual imbroglios are laudable exemplary behaviour of public figures/role model for our citizens or children. It is because for these these sexual imbroglios to surface in public domain, someone has to dig into personal lives and then spread it (whether truth or lie) for political use, and that’s gutter politics. For us to use that information, so arising, to attack politicians we don’t like is basically to reward this method of Gutter Politics and we’re all down the slippery slope to encourage its deployment again and again. One oberves YB Kit has always refrained from doing it. This even Dr Chua Soi Lek acknowledged though he couldn’t say that of his own party rivals & factions.
#15 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 1:46 pm
Khairy has made a big blunder that costs him big in crebility. He should know that he can’t rely on what’s posted in the blogs without independent verification (let alone that even if it were true, he should arise above petty gutter politics). Especially when he should know that these bloggers, exposers & their ilk are Not Really That Smart. I mean even if one wants to fabricate lies to vilify, why use a picture of 21-year-old chess Grandmaster Anya Sun Corke whose photos are everywhere on the Net that can be sourced to dispel the lie? Just like Carcosa video – even if one wants to incriminate the Opposition’s head for recent indiscretions, why use some grainy not so clear black & white tape when nowadays the technology for hidden cameras enables coloured clear pictures? Just like Sodomy II, trying to nail Anwar for consensual anal sex with a complainant who declared the opposite that he was coerced, and even then had allegedly 3 types of DNA profiles in semen recovered after 65 hours? I mean how smart is that? It sounds more like desperate. To salvage whatever that is left if any of credibility, it behooves him to make a public apology. If I were him I’d just retract, apologise unreservedly, ask for forgiveness, admit that its a mistake, maybe try to salvage a little moral ground by exhorting others not to repeat this behaviour.
#16 by Godfather on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 2:45 pm
“My defence of them – drawing a line between their capability to discharge public office duties and so called personal sexual imbroglios – had in the past drawn fierce and vociferous criticisms from some readers here.” Jeffrey
A proven philanderer is entirely capable of discharging public office duties, as as he is capable of discharging some other thing somewhere else. Question is whether he has the moral fibre to do what is right or whether he can withstand the sniping from within his own party or coalition to be an effective leader.
If there was no video on CSL but there were insinuations he was carrying on an extramarital affair, then no one should care two hoots as to whether that rumour is accurate or not. Digging into that rumour so that one can expose CSL and the “other” woman is wrong. Spreading the rumour is also wrong. In CSL’s case, it was proven by his own admission. How many times has UMNOputras told him to stand down because of his proven indiscretions ? He can’t possibly tell the world he is an effective leader. Every time he needs to “bargain” on behalf of his electorate (and bargaining is a given in the BN coalition), he is mindful that the video is always on the bargaining table.
#17 by Godfather on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 2:47 pm
However, we need not digress from the issue at hand.
#18 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 3:00 pm
It is not easy to draw a line between digging into a rumour, which is conceded wrong, and using a proven fact of impropriety to bring an opponent down which is implied right. The reason is because if one does not dig deeply and pervasively into a rumour how does one establish that it is spurious or true especially if true becomes a criterion to expose and bring his downfall? The issue is whether one should focus on personal aspects of such nature in the first instance for purposes of digging! Having said that I agree we need not digress from the issue at hand. Thanks for the comment.
#19 by SENGLANG on Thursday, 20 October 2011 - 4:35 pm
KJ has much to regret now as he has fallen into the trap of his own party blunder. Lesson to learn never simply press on the button of your HP once it sent you can not take it back.