No Tun Samy Vellu?

This will be the reaction of most Malaysians to the Yang di Pertuan Agong’s birthday honours list today – why Tun Dr. Lim Keng Yaik but no Tun Samy Vellu.

Is MIC leaving Barisan Nasional?

  1. #1 by max2811 on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 9:41 am

    I don’t give a damn who gets the Tun or Tan Sri or Dato’. I have no respect for any of them. The only contribution they gave was towards their own pockets.

    I respect the roadside hawker more for being hardworking and honest. Or the neighbour who weeded the paths and planted flowers in their place.

    I respect my fellow teachers for being caring and responsible towards their pupils. I respects the doctors who reduce their charges when the patients are poor.

    Basically, I respect any honest and hardworking person. But never a politician.

  2. #2 by NG on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 9:43 am

    AI yo yo,cannot give him lah,

  3. #3 by kai on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:04 am

    Poor Samy. What went wrong?

  4. #4 by BoycottLocalPapers on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:11 am

    Nicol Ann David deserves the title TUN more than Samy Vellu. But considering the fact that Mahathir Mamak also has the title TUN, I think better not.

    Why must Tunship be conferred to someone who burdened the rakyat with toll everywhere? The Yang di-Pertuan Agong has made the right decision (if it was his decision) in not honoring someone like Samy Vellu.

    Is Samy Vellu responsible for the recent Grand Saga vs Bandar Mahkota Cheras case recently? Why is the government trying to force the people of Bandar Mahkota Cheras to pay toll and on top of that take a longer journey to work? The government should be helping the rakyat instead of burdening the rakyat with toll and drastic hike in oil prices.

    If UMNO was responsible for the Tunship list, then probably UMNO is angry with Samy Vellu for the political Tsunami on March 8, 2008.

    If UMNO is responsible for the Tunship list, then Samy Vellu should be jealous and has the right to be jealous. Samy Vellu should ask UMNO why Lim Keng Yaik is conferred with Tunship while no Tunship is given to him?

    Why Mahathir Mamak was conferred with Tunship immediately after resigning?

    Why Ling Liong Sik was conferred with Tunship immediately after leaving the government?

    MIC members should ask UMNO these questions, because this is yet another proof that the Indian community has been marginalized by UMNO.

    UMNO members – first class citizen
    MCA & Gerakan members – second class citizen
    MIC members – third class citizen.

  5. #5 by lcclck on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:21 am

    Dear Sir,

    I supposed we should move away from the ‘old story’ and focus on ideas of how to brace through the hike of fuel, get some real forward methods or idea of organized efforts for the new state governments entrusted by the voters to charge forward those areas of better ISSUES than this silly title of why samy vellu is not given Tun….

    Dear Sir,

    You had MISSED many of your good years to govern and lead to develop those ‘barren’ grounds, and those powers were now shared with PKR & PAS with you as leaders to lead those states which are considered GOOD states, please may you have some your precious time to raise issues of more essential than an expired WM, and leave him alone, and let’s go down the lands to produce some good productions for food.

    May I help you??

    Best regards,

    Peter Leow

  6. #6 by mendela on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:26 am

    No Tun Samy?

    What about Nut Samy?

    To this nut, white is black, black is white. So Tun too is Nut, Nut too is Tun!

  7. #7 by clearwater on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:29 am

    I concur with max2811’s sentiments except the final part..’But never a politician.’ I do respect a few politicians, and those I respect are not polluted with vainglorious titles. There are indeed some politicians who truly believe their little bit can, and do, make a difference. They are appreciated and respected by their electorate and by all fair minded citizens. That is true honor coming from the heart of the people, not some pitiful undeserved title derived from crony practices.

  8. #8 by vincent on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:30 am

    I think without these titles LKS & son are more respected then them.

  9. #9 by Godfather on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:35 am

    What is the worth of a Tunship? Just look at the living Tuns and the damage that they have wrought on Bolehland: Tun Mamakthir, who almost singlehandedly destroyed the judiciary and corrupted the Police, the AG’s Chambers, the ACA. Then we have Tun Ling, who corrupted the MCA because of his son, and who signed off on the PKFTZ papers. Then we have Tun Eusoffe Chin, who decided to take a holiday with Lingam.

    Frankly, Lim Keng Yaik doesn’t deserve this title either. His stupid comments pre and post elections suggest that he is less than honest about the plight of the minorities.

    Semi Value ? As someone said above, let’s confer him the title of “Nut” for his contribution to the Indians.

  10. #10 by madmix on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:44 am

    This fellow has not retired from politics, Ling, Lim and Mahathir all retired from party posts. Samy was kicked out by the electorate but insist on hanging on to MIC. If he had retired, I think he will be rewarded with Tunship for his services to UMNO.

  11. #11 by Cinapek on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:50 am

    If Samy still is in denial mode, this is it. He has disappeared completely from the BN radar screen and is considered no longer relevant to Pak Lah and company. Lim Keng Yaik is still recognised because Pak Lah knows he can still influence Gerakan because Dr Koh is a weak leader. And Pak Lah needs Gerakan to balance MCA. He knows the MCA is pissed off and blames him for the MCA GE losses and will not hesitate to throw their weight behind anyone who can oust him hence he needs Gerakan to deliver the balance. Samy not only cannot even fight his way out of a paper bag now but is such a distinct liability that the less to do with him the better.

  12. #12 by ktemoc on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:51 am

    Dear Uncle Lim,

    Let’s not worry about those datukships, Tun-ships and suchlikes. My schoolteacher used to make jokes about Italy having more ‘counts’ and countesses’ than the ordinary people. I fear we have reached that embarrassing stage.

    Thus we need to control those awards to a more dignified number, perhaps with you passing a bill to limit such knighthood awards to only the Sultanates (as you and I don’t have our ‘rathers’, we just have to leave the Sultans to their royal prerogatives).

    But at least we can prevent the most prolific generator of Datukships, the Malacca government, from issuing knighthoods as if those were confetti at a kindergarten fete. Even Jeanne Abdullah has a couple ;-) (not her fault of course but nonetheless an inevitability in our Bodekland).

    It will of course deny the State governments of Sabah, Sarawak and my Penang the same privileges. Keep the non-Sultanate State honours, particularly Penang’s, at a non-titled level please.

  13. #13 by kai on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:55 am

    Ai-yo-yo…Samy, no ‘Tun’ show and tell now? What do it?

  14. #14 by deathlings on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:57 am


    Please confirm whether is it true that once conferred as a Tun, the Tun cannot be prosecuted in court of law in Malaysia. As such, we have so many of the Ex-BN ministers who retired and got a Tun asap so dirty laundry can’t be digged up again them?

    Maybe thats why Lim Keng Yaik needs one, considering the mess at MCMC and the transfer of Timedotcom’s 3G licence to DIGI.

  15. #15 by xtheman on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:58 am

    LKY for TUN …what a world …….JOKE

  16. #16 by xtheman on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:02 am

    LKY have con Telenor DIGI on regards of 3G license …. How can you give 3G to TimedotCom where is an empty shell company and dying. SO indeed “CON” man have CON Digi

  17. #17 by Tickler on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:06 am

    Badawi does it again!!!
    This must be embarassing for the King – to have to give a Tunship to a beggar:

    Lim Keng Yaik: Non-UMNO parties are “beggars”

  18. #18 by limkamput on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:08 am

    Oh, Sdr Lim, this may quicken MIC leaving BN.

    On more serious note, Samy is still the president of MIC. If he want his Tunship, he should copy LKYaik – pretend to resign and then control the party from behind the scene.

    Oh, I forget, Samy is still trying to find a no bola guy to succeed him. Nowadays it is not easy to choose a successor. You must really really get a no bola and stupid guy, which is not easy.

  19. #19 by limkamput on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:12 am

    Oh I forgot, what about Sdr Lim, why no Tunship for you. I have been campaigning since before March 8 election. You deserve the Tunship more than anybody else. When you get one, it will enhance the value of Tunship. So it is better for all the present Tun holders to support you getting one.

  20. #20 by justice_fighter on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:15 am

    In today’s Malaysia, titles like Datuk, Datuk Seri, Tan Sri, Tun etc are getting more synonymous to corruption, nepotism, cronism, power abuse, stupidity, greed, injustice, dishonest, etc.

    There is nothing to be proud of being conferred one of these titles. Everyone knows about this.

    Can’t agree more with max2811, an honest and hardworking roadside hawker or toilet cleaner command more repects from me than these corrupted people that use big titles to cover up their sins.

    Semi value will definitely get his Tunship once he has retired from MIC. Mark my word.

  21. #21 by yhsiew on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:21 am

    I suggest Samy Vellu join PR to vent his anger for being not conferred Tunship.

  22. #22 by KanNinNeh on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:23 am

    Malaysia will be remembered by the world as a Country which is rich in Natural Resources, but destroyed by the Corrupted politicians !

  23. #23 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:27 am

    YB Lim Kit Siang,

    I think this is an Irrelevant Posting .

    This is like hitting below the belt and it certainly should not be from someone like Yb Lim.

    The award of Titles by the DYMM Agong and the Sultans and the Governors are their prerogatives. I wont be bothered by whether Mr. Lim Keng Yaik or Mr. Ling Liong Sik has Tunship,or as Tan Sri on Chan Kong Choy and Rafidah Aziz. Similarly, whether Samy gets a Tun or not makes no diffrence to me now or when they all die, or when i die.

    The Nobel Peace prize award would have been a better guage of any person for his /her contribution towards mankind for peace and love. I think, i have greater respect for Mother Theresa ( RIP ) and Nelson Mandela than anyone on this earth now.

    This taking a swipe at Samy Vellu is unnecessary YB Lim. I think you have better things to blog than on such trivial subject. The Price hike domino effects on economic and social life of the raayat needs immediate attention . The dispute between Syabas and the Selangor state Pr government on free water needs attention.

    Lest we are all distracted from the Lingamgate that the investigations by the police are still unclear or IP not even done yet.

    Lest we are all distracted that Altantuya died from c4 blast , maybe pregnant with a child from whoever the father maybe.

    Lest we are all distracted that the 100 days of PR rules on five states are due soon.

    Respectfully Yb Lim.

    I hope you are clear about our concern as our MP. And Prepare the raayat for the 13th general election.
    thank you.

    when i die, which can be any moment, i will die off as God so recognise me. Not with titles .

  24. #24 by madmix on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:37 am

    Let me say it again: Tunship is for RETIRED heads of major BN components. Samy has NOT RETIRED. I am sure if he retires he will be well rewarded from being a good boy to UMNO.

  25. #25 by sheriff singh on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:45 am

    No “Tun” for Samy?

    Well he’ll get one when he RETIRES.

    Samy, you get the hint? You belum pencen. Maybe next year, ah, if you are gone by then? Don’t wait too long ya?

    Also not even one MIC fellow got a pingat. Hmmmmm. Looks like they are all out to get you. Good for the Sikh fellow who got it though.

    But I am sure Samy is already honoured by his community who appointed him as their “wira” and then booted him out.

    Sorilah Samy. There’s always next year. Don’t sulk.

  26. #26 by Saint on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 12:28 pm

    Saudara Lim, why waste energy on wasted matters, when the country needs “excellent brains” to pull us out form price hike, food shortage and fuel increase. Please devote time and energy on “useful matters to the public”. Most of the Indians have forgotten about Samy, no point bring back his memories and to keep him reminded. Let us all forget these BN cronies and move forward.

  27. #27 by Loh on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 12:34 pm

    Two Tuns are to be investigated. Samy will get one when the Tun title comes off from them.

  28. #28 by Mr Smith on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 12:41 pm

    He is still MIC president. If he had resigned, I am sure he would have gotten it too.
    His day will come. Let them bring that Tunship to their graves.
    For me, I respect a person for his righteousness, honesty and integrity, not titles.

  29. #29 by Dr_Albert_Schweitzer on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 1:01 pm

    Many of us ordinary decent citizens don’t really care a damn about Tuns & Tan Sris except for a very few deserving ones.
    Most of them are like what many of us have studied in elementary economics, that is,they are “good-for-nothing” or hopeless oafs. They are like Gresham’s Law where “bad money drives out the good”. Many of them are where they are today because they cheated and conned the poor Rakyat. So their tun-ships and tan sri-ships debased the value of the awards. Look around you and you will find among the Tuns and Tan Sris are people who are mad and senile whose inflamatory speeches aroused the Rakyat with a view to destroying our beloved country. They really should be locked up as they activities endanger our country and her people. So that is Tun-ship for you. Of course we are fully aware of two other highly corrupt Tuns who held the highest judiciary office on the land. We are better than them morally and righteously and we are happily untitled. So what is the big deal? Among the Tan Sris are a number who stole, plunder and commit daylight robbery of the Rakyat in the name of the New Economic Policy.
    I respect the simple law-abiding, hard-working Malaysians who make their living in a decent and “clean” manner. They don’t need any Tun-ships or Tan Sri-ships.
    Look at how Singapore prosper and succeed without such awards. All these awards are feudalistic and archaic and are intended to ensure a bondage of the poor decent Rakyat.

  30. #30 by cemerlang on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 1:09 pm

    Respect has to be earned. Sometimes we have to remind ourselves of this.

    There is not much that can be said for the givers and the receivers. Awards can be bought. Awards can be given because of personal agendas. Awards are given because of manipulation’s sake. There are too many people with such awards running wild.

    One can see, one can hear, one can smell, one can talk, one can touch and one has the inner sense to know.

    So what if a person appears so exclusive and gives off an air of superiority and pride ? Everyone knows what sort of real stuff is that person made of.

    Tun Dr Lim Keng Yaik is a vocal person. But does he wonder about the situation Gerakan is in today ?

    Just under what criteria would you give a Datukship to anyone ? Morals ? Ethics ? Physical strength ? Mental ability ? Social involvement ? Spiritual dimension ? and so on and so forth. Surely you cannot depend on looks and the power of seduction, or can you ?

  31. #31 by rainbowseahorse on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 1:14 pm

    I believe Tun Dr. Lim Keng Yaik deserve the Tunship as he has always been very vocal in defending (within the confines of the BN rules & regulations) the rakyat in terms of rates hikes in utilities. His most memorable words I heard on TV news was when he was asked to comment on Tenaga CEO announced their intending rates hike. Tun Dr. Lim Keng Yaik words were: “He can talk what he likes. Ask him to come see me and I will tell him “NO!””.

    As for Datuk Samy Vellu chances of receiving a Tunship? Ask the Malaysian Indian communities and see whether they think HE DESERVE A TUNSHIP. That should be a clear indication of what a bad leader can expect when he is out of power…and rightly so! Like a corrupted ex-JKR official shun by society after his retirement!

  32. #32 by Jong on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 1:15 pm

    “Oh I forgot, what about Sdr Lim, why no Tunship for you.” – limkamput

    Serious, if titles are given based on merits and real national contribution, YB Lim Kit Siang would have got it long time ago, long before Dr Mahathir Mohamed!

    As Loh just said above, two Tuns are ‘to be investigated’. This is serious. It just goes to show there’s nothing so great carrying that title when ‘undeserved’ recipients do not live up to what the title represents.

  33. #33 by monsterball on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 1:15 pm

    hahahahaha….Samy will be furious!
    Lets trace the history….how UMNO got the idea of giving titles.
    Everyone knows….it is from Great Britain.
    There they five..Sirs… really deserving citizens…that have contributed so much to the country.
    And commonwealth citizens are recognized by Britain too!! We have few “Sir” in Malaysia…that all Malaysians should be proud of them.
    Here…almost all UMNO and BN politicians are decorated….upgraded from Datuks…Senators to Tan Sri….than TUN.
    We have murderers…rapists..jail birds…low class…taxi drivers….terrible daylight robbers of our country’s wealth….all from UMNO and BN…with titles.
    And everyone knows….these tittle can be bought too!!
    Then..they lump them all up ..with those noble and real heroes of Malaysia…the deserving lot…rightfully must be decorated.
    Can you imagine their silent heroes…feeling shameful and frustrated? They cannot refuse the titles….especially given by the KING!!
    Indonesia do not believe in titles…and somehow….I think …the Dutch are more humble and practical…so Indonesia inherited that habit.
    Above all…Islam religion teaches everyone to be humble. How to be humble…so many titles”
    So to top it all up……must have lots and lots of money and expensive car…big house…to keep up with the titles .
    So how to get all those money needed???
    Need I paint the whole picture?
    Why do UMNO do that?
    One clear sign..great great…inferiority complexes….putting out a superior front.
    Then to see inferiority complexes…..get rid off…must have hundreds of millions. Money is the power!! So their titles with money…who dares to look down on the UMNO and BN blokes?
    They cement that character..with such thick skin faces…with reasonings..that the whole world knows…what great hypocrites they are…so much so…they now have become another race.. the “WEIRD ONES”… in UMNO. BN guys have always carry balls of UMNO….so lets leave these onion faces…small fry asides.
    No one can understand UMNO mentalities……except UMNO members… themselves.
    The like to brag…never is wrong and talk alot of cock and bull…just because they have millions stolen money…title…huge houses.
    Yes..Malaysia is a rojak country..being rojak by UMNO.

  34. #34 by rainbowseahorse on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 1:47 pm

    We rakay Malaysian should just bestow the Tunship to Lim Kit Siang. We should all address him as Tun Lim Kit Siang from now onwards.

    I don’t think they can be any higher honor than a title bestowed upon a person by fellow countrymen & women who sincerely feel a person is truely deserving of recognition of his time and deep sacrifices for the people.

    To TUN LIM KIT SIANG, sir, my deepest respect and gratitude!

  35. #35 by kosmoalpha on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 2:01 pm

    at long last,lim keng yik becomes a ‘toon’!!

  36. #36 by penang308 on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 2:23 pm

    Tun for aiyo aiyo samy?

    The only title he deserve is “TONG SAMPAH”!

  37. #37 by gundam on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 2:30 pm

    TUN (The Unscrupulous Nominee)

  38. #38 by kanthanboy on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 3:12 pm

    The real issue of this posting by Kit is not about Tunship for Samy Velu, it is about why UMNO has given a lower price tag to MIC as compare to MCA and Gerakan. It is about the internal politics of BN.

    People like Adam Yong Ibni Abdullah thinks this is an irrelevant posting and a trivial subject and yet chooses to respond with a long posting him/herself. If the shoe fits you, you wear it.

  39. #39 by donng55 on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 3:49 pm

    YB LIM

    I concur with ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH ‘s opion that despite our deep disappointments with Samy Vellu this posting is gratuitous. There is no need for this, for we know who he is, what he is made of, and what he had done. Let God deal with him. And let history judge him

    If any, this only refelcts on yourself and DAP as a whole and the reasons why a significant number of Malaysians of Chinese origin have been avoiding DAP in the past since 1969 until the last GE

    Why this posting when there are 1001 things that are important to the rakyat to talk about? Do you want to portray yourself to be yet another politician who fiddles while Rome burns?

    We criticize BN leaders not for the sake of criticizing or just for the “kicks,” but for what wrongs they have done. It is our sincere hope that you being a leader in DAP and PR play a leading role in establishing a correct and positive political milieu

  40. #40 by Jong on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 3:49 pm

    Samy Velu is spent force, no more power and rejected by Malaysian Indians so why should UMNO bother for him? I’m sure they know he has always been all for himself. Don’t we agree he deserves every bit of it? :D

  41. #41 by drmaharajahrk on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 4:04 pm

    Since Mahathir became a Tun, the value of the title has been reduced !

  42. #42 by jim on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 4:04 pm

    Did Semi value eligible to get Tunship? Then we should ask the Malaysian Indian communities and see whether what they think. Nowadays he became so irrelevant and it is hard for him to garner anymore support from the Indians. The longer he stays on MIC, the longer MIC became irrelevant to their communities. Anger and hatred among Indians seems to pound heavier on him since he decided to stay on as MIC president despite losing his seat during the recent general election. I think he should have vacant that seat for the sake of the Indian communities. There are still plenty of calibre candidates in the party who can really make some changes and bring in new hopes for the Indians. Thats the key for the whole rebuilding of the MIC!

  43. #43 by caishen on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 4:30 pm

    I don’t think he need the title ‘Tun”.He prefer to wait for the title ‘Tunku”.Tunku Samy Veloo…isn’t is sound better.

  44. #44 by caishen on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 4:35 pm

    continue……DAULAT TUNKU!!DAULAT TUNKU!!Tunku Samy Ibni Veloo JKR MPK JPA TNB …..

  45. #45 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:02 pm


    if you like gutter politics, so be it.
    but Yb Lim, have to be of a different class.

    adam – certainly a man.

  46. #46 by Tantech on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:10 pm

    People have been saying that when you got Tun, you are not entitled to be sued. How far is it true? No wonder politicians who retired quickly get Tun because while they were in office, there were too many corrupted cases. So they get the Tun shield.

    No wonder Samy Vellu did not want to quit gen election. He probably had asked abdullah to promise him Tun as a condition to quit election. But abdullah didn’t budge in.

  47. #47 by doggone on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:14 pm

    They couldn’t decide whether to confer him a ‘Tun’ a ‘Toon’ a ‘Goon’ or a ‘Loon’.

    Next birthday maybe, that is if his hairpiece is still around. How about a ‘Chun’ as in cojones instead?

  48. #48 by caishen on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:17 pm

    The bus of opportunity has left him because of his stubborness and the next bus will be coming in when he become extinct.

  49. #49 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:21 pm


    Once again , whether MIC is leaving BN does not matters to the Indians anymore. IF we are propagating Bangsa Malaysia, than race based parties are irrelevant . I hope Kanthanboy understand this too.

    We are so close to a Two Party system, lets not lose the last grip.
    History can be created if there is a will. I am very proud that The USA finally has a Minortiy Black in Senator Obama as a Presidential Candidate. Who would have given that a thought 50 years ago?. I am equally proud that Senator Hillary has made women stand up and be counted as equal.

    Please move on to bigger issues for the raayat than give space to some spent selfish leaders. ( too many ). CHANGE IS SENATOR OBAMA TAGLINE. CHANGE IS WHAT I WANT TO SEE TOO IN MALAYSIA. MY COUNTRY. NO RACIAL POLITICS PLEASE.

  50. #50 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:23 pm

    Dear Donng55,

    thank you.

  51. #51 by flyer168 on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:25 pm

    Dear YB LKS,

    I suppose Samy is still not retired & because UMNOputras consider him as 3rd class as someone mentioned.

    Maybe this should be asked in Parliament by MIC MPs.

    With our 4th floor manupulators, BN UMNOputras & sleepy PM, very soon even the Taikohs, gangsters, etc will be Tan Sris & maybe Tuns.

    About time the Association of Dato’s, Tan Sris & Tuns protest to maintain their status & image before it goes to the drain !

    At present if one were to go to any crowded place & call out “Dato'” as many as 400 heads will turn around !

  52. #52 by monsterball on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:30 pm

    Only Mahathir love Samy..with his “sink or swim” promise to Mahathir and a love poem.
    Then he changed side…supported Dollah,,making Dollah so happy. He wrote another love poem…now will sink and swim with Dollah..and let Mahathir go to hell alone. He also learn the art to talk reasons…but the words uttered out…do shame Malaysian Indians…such a low class thick skin..hypocrite.
    Dollah dared not sack Samy…and he must be thrilled to see Malaysians need to do his dirty job……we sacked him!!!
    And Samy is daily saying …UMNO is the cause of MIC downfall.
    With all these…you expect UMNO to give “Tun” to Samy??
    Anyway….only UMNO and BN dreamers …crooks and half past sixes are thrilled with titles,
    It is the most worthless piece of Malaysia and to the whole world. It can be bought with money too!!

  53. #53 by kanthanboy on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:37 pm

    // if you like gutter politics, so be it but Yb Lim, have to be of a different class.// ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH

    It is your prerogative to call it gutter politics. I cannot understand how you can sincerely believe that the award of Titles by the DYMM Agong and the Sultans and the Governors are their prerogatives and has nothing to do with politics.

  54. #54 by monsterball on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:41 pm

    And I need to repeat…some titles are given to deserving Malaysians…as it should be.
    But UMNO have mixed crooks and balls carriers..people with no principles in life…all mixed up to the righteous and noble ones. Is not UMNO real smart??
    No they are not. They love to show off…with titles and lots of stolen money.
    They have become so greedy…that even few good UMNO ministers are now talking the same language. We Malaysians know…they are.not the real usual person talking now…at all. Most logical… that person is now…so filthy rich too.

  55. #55 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 5:41 pm

    On lighter note, I sincerely believe that Datuk Lim Kit Siang, as being a grandfather through trying times,when YAB Lim Guan Eng was in jail, and out of jail, unable to get a job is more meaningful to Dear YB Lim.

    This datuk as in grandfather is blessed by The Almighty, and may GOD bless you YB Lim and your family and grandchildren. When the little kids pranks with you, they will certainly be bundles of joy.

    AND YB Betty Chew, has to be a CM’s wife in Penang, a wakil raayat in Melaka and a mother. This speaks volumn of womens’ ability to handle stress.

    Not many of us can be BLESSED to have grandchildren. or even children.

    thank you.

  56. #56 by kanthanboy on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 6:13 pm

    One fast way to promote Bangsa Malaysia is for race-based parties like MIC and MCA to leave BN and die naturally. It will be good news for Malaysian politics if MIC is leaving BN. I hope Adam Yong Ibni Abdullah doesn’t say this is irrelevant.

  57. #57 by shortie kiasu on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 7:07 pm

    All these so called awards by the Rulers are just laughing stocks to us and to the people in the world. It is not that we are “sour grapes”, but look, some never heard before can get a Tan Sri or Datuk just because he or she is rich. That is all. With their money connection at high place, the so called awards are just like a cheap piece of metal hannging over their neck.

    In front we may be ‘forced’ to address them as such, but at their back we just spit.

  58. #58 by Rocky on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 7:21 pm

    Nut Samy…second that bro.

  59. #59 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 7:38 pm

    dear kanthanboy:

    as long as you are not racist -i am with you dear man/lady.

    there are good and bad in every race – boy/girl.

    goodnite and have a nice sunday.

    need to watch eurocup later. thats how i unwind.

  60. #60 by undergrad2 on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 8:09 pm

    “Oh I forgot, what about Sdr Lim, why no Tunship for you. I have been campaigning since before March 8 election. You deserve the Tunship more than anybody else. When you get one, it will enhance the value of Tunship. So it is better for all the present Tun holders to support you getting one.” limkamput

    Obviously you have the mindset of a BN supporter or a BN politician.

    This practice of giving titles should be abandoned especially when the practice has been subject to a lot of abuse. BN politicians when they get to power, the first thing they look for is a datukship – and the last thing most government servants look to just before they retire is a datukship.

    The practice stems from the feudalistic mindset of the Malays.

  61. #61 by Godson on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 8:50 pm

    Who cares…….all those title. Only for people with very low esteem. Wolfs in sheeps skin, no truth, too many around us. Stand aside……make way for the honorable RAKYAT.

  62. #62 by hiro on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 9:25 pm

    MIC leaves Barisan for where? Nowhere except the gutters.

  63. #63 by sheriff singh on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 9:30 pm

    Its Tong Samy Vellu, please.

  64. #64 by sheriff singh on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 9:39 pm

    Full Official Title:

    Yang Amak Bahagia Tong Samy Vellu,
    Wira kepada Orang-orang India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal dan lain-lain

    Hic! Hic! Hic!

  65. #65 by Jong on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 9:41 pm

    Talking about “mindset of BN/Umno politicians”, only recently, my friends and I over coffee were rolling in laughter recalling the lengths those politicians would go, just to feed their ego to get ‘recognaised’ and be ‘noticed’ in the late 80s-90s. Remember how silly they used to look in their bush-jackets of grey, blue, beige and black? :D

    Another ‘must’ were those high-back office executive chairs and colorful office-phones to give that ‘exclusivity’ and status symbol perhaps? :D
    Remember there were no cell phones yet and those black Telecoms sets of black were boring. :D

    Malaysians, memang boleh!

  66. #66 by negarawan on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 9:44 pm

    Why Sami Vellu did not get a Tunship? Didn’t he gave the brilliant idea for petrol price control, but no petrol?

  67. #67 by Damocles on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 9:49 pm

    “This taking a swipe at Samy Vellu is unnecessary YB Lim.” – Adam Yong

    I think that you’ve missed something.
    This is psychological warfare as waged by Uncle Lim.
    Just like in ordinary warfare, everything that can unnerve or even make the enemy squirm is O.K.
    Remember, the constant harping of BN scandals in Parliament, which so unnervered their MPs and at the same time served as a reminder to “short-memory” Malaysians? It may look “unnecessary” but it served a purpose.
    It undermined the confidence of the BN MPs!

  68. #68 by blink4blog on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 9:49 pm

    Does DYMM Agung gives away Tun title to opposition leaders that serves the countries for ages? Why not?

  69. #69 by cheng on soo on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:45 pm

    Tong Untuk Najis?? Never mind lah, if no have, now we hv flush toilet mah !

  70. #70 by alancheah on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 10:50 pm

    Uncle Lim himself should have awarded TunShip long ago.

  71. #71 by cempakian on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:03 pm

    I wonder why Titles are given only to BN members and not the opposition. They have done so much for the Rakyat.

  72. #72 by miketan142 on Saturday, 7 June 2008 - 11:41 pm

    YB Kit,
    Perhaps DAP should award the ‘ TONG ‘ title to the most rubbish and corrupt minister in the cabinet every year.

  73. #73 by limkamput on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 12:07 am

    Obviously you have the mindset of a BN supporter or a BN politician. undergrad2

    Dear undergrad2,
    Oh, I know myself better and I don’t have the kind of mindset you mentioned. When Kit gets it, everybody know he deserves it, whether or not it is feudalistic or otherwise. For your info, I too am a recipient of an award (a fairly respectable one) from our King and I am proud of it because I didn’t solicit for it and I did not have to deal with “intermediaries” to get it.

    Do you know what is your mindset? You are smart and intellectual, but sometimes I have a little problem with your honesty and integrity. But if you just want to irritate me for the fun of it, I can accept. But seriously if you just want to find fault with me, I think you have found a wrong guy. As I said before many times. You are smart, please don’t for a minute think that there are no other smarter than you out there. There are plenty.

  74. #74 by limkamput on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 12:09 am

    sorry last line, …..You are smart, but please don’t for a minute think that there are no others smarter than you out there. There are many.

  75. #75 by yog7948 on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 12:28 am

    Malaysian Indian CLUB presidents wont get TUN. LKY is getting one since his Party still have some people to call member. MIC has been degraded now to status of CLUB only.. Those who need a good laugh are welcomed to join them, they provide FREE Tosai and Tea during meetings but for those really keen of robbing your own kin are also welcomed. They really have experts on that field.

  76. #76 by bernadette on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 2:51 am

    “I too am a recipient of an award (a fairly respectable one) from our King and I am proud of it …” linkamput


  77. #77 by bernadette on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 2:54 am

    ..isn’t that for having spent your entire working life in government service?

  78. #78 by ShiokGuy on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 4:33 am

    Tun Samy Vellu? Does not sound right and kind of tongue twisted.

    Why the government tend to award a ex component parties leader a Tunship? Kind of strange!

    In my opinion Samy has been a running slave of BN/UMNO. He was involved in almost all the privatization project.. He tend to jump from one ministry to another, and when he was in => Privatized!

    right? May be let him served as army cadet as Private, so dear samy let the rakyat award you the following title

    Private Samy Vellu.

    Shiok Guy

  79. #79 by isahbiazhar on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 5:17 am

    Samy Velloo did not work for the Indians.He worked for the MIC he controlled and the Tamils who prostrated to him.Do not forget the cronies from the Barisan who benefitted from his ministry.Since he is not a national leader in terms of reality he deserves not the TUN.What he has is more than sufficient.I hope the future MIC leaders will think all Indians as Malaysians and work without bias.

  80. #80 by negarawan on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 7:25 am

    Frankly speaking, what is the big deal of Datuk, Tun, Tan Sri etc? I do not have any respect for these superficial titles. There are elements of corruption and cronyism involved in the awards, and too many are given. Even crooks and criminals have it. The moment they step out of Malaysia, it has zero meaning.

  81. #81 by lakilompat on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 8:11 am

    The King is wise, indeed to wise to confer a title of “TUN” to a bloody old man who ruined Gerakan from its heyday.

    This bloody old man oso ruined a talented young gay like KTK (14 yrs of ruled) giving nothing but more polution, more land been privatize, less state authority, everything increases. During LCY time food in Penang state is the cheapest, char koay teow was RM 0.80 cents at that time Johor “Kon Lou” noodles was RM 1.50 cents Now it is almost the same, are we better off or worst off joining the Barang Naik party?

    Let’s declare independent tomorrow.

  82. #82 by lakilompat on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 8:14 am

    If Penang is a free port, and independent sure there will be alot of overseas planning to shift back to Penang due to its strategic location.

    We can be like Singapore, we have the capacity since our population is 700K Singapore have 3.6 million

    We will start using NGV (RM 0.68) instead of oil (RM 2.70-4.00).

  83. #83 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 8:25 am

    /// xtheman Says:
    Yesterday at 10: 58.55
    LKY for TUN …what a world …….JOKE ///

    No, Lee Kuan Yew ia probably one of the handful who really deserve the Tunship, but then again they will not give it to him.

    Kidding lah. :)

  84. #84 by catharsis on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 9:28 am



  85. #85 by limkamput on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 9:36 am

    All awards are respectable, including PJK. So please don’t implicitly insult PJK recipients. If there are some who spent their whole life to get this award, let it be. It is their contributions to the country. Having said that, I am not a recipient of PJK and I am not telling you which award I get. It is not your business to know.

    If there is any disappointment among us over the awards, it is the way some of the recipients behave. It is never the awards per se, got it? So please don’t confuse the issue. I still maintain that Sdr Lim should be conferred a Tun-Ship or a Tan Sri-shipfor his unwavering contribution to this nation. It is meaningful and befitting for him to get one despite whatever you may think of the award.

    Finally Bernadette, you could be someone “familiar” masqueraded in a new ID trying to start the war here again. So far what I see is one liner from you. Tell you want, write me two paragraphs of substance first. If you have standard, I will engage you. Otherwise I usually throw “phua tai sai” into the next tong sampah.

  86. #86 by sheriff singh on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 12:52 pm

    Come to think of it we kind of miss Sammy Vellu.

    Without his daily stupidities, among other things, life is so dull, dull, dull.

    Come on Samy, say something stupid once in a while. We miss you.

  87. #87 by chiakchua on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 3:35 pm

    Yes, the semi-value is already in bad shape, please spare him some mercy YB Lim. Don’t dwell on this issue.

    Get LGE to try resolve the long outstanding Penang bridge jamm problem. KTK couldn’t solve the problem during his tenure, but I believe LGE with the help of the tough and hardship grilled new excos will be able to do something to the jamm. All Penangites will applause the achievement!

  88. #88 by Jong on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 4:37 pm

    Lim Keng Yaik now one of the TUNs! What a dubious 36 year political legacy, this jackal must have felt mighty ‘proud’ of himself – one of Malaysia’s greatest clown, a pak turut cartoon only next to Samy Vellu!

    Remember in 2002, he pride himself to be the first non-muslim national leader to come out in full support Mahathir’s “929 Declaration” that Malaysia is an “Islamic State” ? – an “achievement” and a Tunship reminds him of.

  89. #89 by boh-liao on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 5:19 pm

    When we look at the list of people who were conferred various titles, from Tun to Datuk, we cannot but feel sad for the country. Among them, how many have really contributed to the advancement of our nation?

    Even the newly appointed office bearers of, say, Perak from PR, before they show any positive contributions to the state, they were conferred titles like Dato Seri and Datuk. Why?

  90. #90 by Jong on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 6:17 pm

    I agree with you, boh-liao. This title-giving/title-buying has to stop. It is said to be a money-churning venture, let’s hope it’s not true!

    This has to stop. Imagine every year, 13 states + the King’s are churning out datos/datuks, tansri, datuksri/datosri etc .(btw, I don’t even know the difference in their spellings!) This is real alarming, the streets are already line with them! Who cares for their title really! When are they going to put a stop to this? We should all call for a big eraser and rub off all those titles.

  91. #91 by subject on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 7:37 pm

    The honour list shall consist of ONLY those who truly sacrify for country and its peoples. Not those who only knows how to bodek and acting!!!

    Even whole the country is in the unstable ecomonics situation yet there is still a lot of people (those government paid) who are more concern on oneself honour rather than the people’s life..

    Why the hell these so-called country leader and representative???

  92. #92 by malar on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 10:39 pm

    All these titles do not mean anything to any layman. People with titles are just gaining for themselves only. What I am pissed off with people with these titles are especially the MIC leaders, they chose temples as a place to show their titles. Too sad they can’t do it among with UMNO or MCA cos MIC is third class in ranking with other parties so the MIC leaders with these titles chose temple functions as there will be indians only who will be running around like dogs to favour these so called ‘ttitled people’. The Datuks and Datins should be given royal welcome and their behaviour can make a person vomit blood. The place of worship will be turned into a political field and the worshippers will finally be worshipping these stupid Datuks and Datins. For me MIC is just an existing party and the members are all like dead corpses. Semi Value only deserves a kick in his ass and not a Tun. He has sold the dignity of indians to UMNO and the wound he has caused to many indians will take a long time to heal.

  93. #93 by ktteokt on Sunday, 8 June 2008 - 10:56 pm

    What is a TUN? It’s no more than an inverted NUT!!!!!!

  94. #94 by leealex24 on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 12:09 am

    It’s time Malaysia and Malaysians embrace one’s genuine contribution than mere designation. No offense intended but I rather obtain advice from a successful businessman who have proven track record in his specialized field as opposed to a politician who got his Tun through his vast networking contacts.

  95. #95 by 7even Sins on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 12:15 am

    Some of the Kaki Ampu & Corrupt get rewarded. What an irony..!!!

    The title Tun has lost its noble meaning…!!!

    The King should have conferred them “KarTun” title instead..!!!

  96. #96 by maxplus on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 12:29 am

    Semi Value does not deserve the Tun-ship; as someone it is for retirees and wise men only; he will still be standing for next GE.

    I join other to propose to the KIng not to ever award this joker with that award ever; please…

  97. #97 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 3:41 am

    Keng Yaik has most recently been critical of the government after having been part of its deception machinery for 30 years or more.

    Now, Keng Yaik, is this Tunship a mouth-stopper?

    Samy Velu, Tunship? Why don’t you just pay for his one-way ticket and send him to space. Nobody would ever miss him.

  98. #98 by kanthanboy on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 4:00 am

    //…datos/datuks, tansri, datuksri/datosri etc .(btw, I don’t even know the difference in their spellings!) This is real alarming, the streets are already line with them!…/

    Very good observation! Jong. The streets are already line with them. They are like cars made in Malaysia: Protun, Wira, and all models with names end with Sri….. something you can only see on Malaysian streets. When they go overseas they have to leave their titles at home because they will be regarded as scrap metals. The same goes for Malaysian cars, Not acceptable in developed countries because they are not road worthy.

  99. #99 by monsterball on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 4:51 am

    Is Ling Liong Sik..a TUN?
    He should be.
    He qualifies as the best of the best crooks….to get the best title. UMNO and BN Datuks should be inspired to get Tan Sri and finally…a Tun…by stealing big…inspired by Mahathir.

  100. #100 by monsterball on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 4:58 am

    Leaving out the noble……righteous deservingly Malaysians….bestowed with titles..most are professionals.
    Then check out the list of welknown UMNO
    “Tun”….and you will note…the bigger the crook…the higher ..the title.
    I notice Mahathir blog introducing himself with no titles.’
    Smart bloke…….preparing himself….to be stripped off all titles…landing in jail…..sooner or later.

  101. #101 by bernadette on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 7:38 am

    …it is time to do away with titles such as those given for long service in government and similar awards like PJK and AMN etc.

    any ex-government servant here?

    when they leave govt service many ‘award’ themselves with titles like “consultants”….a generic term for almost anything.

  102. #102 by bernadette on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 7:42 am

    nobody can put it more succinctly than jong –

    “This has to stop. Imagine every year, 13 states + the King’s are churning out datos/datuks, tansri, datuksri/datosri etc .(btw, I don’t even know the difference in their spellings!) This is real alarming, the streets are already line with them! Who cares for their title really! When are they going to put a stop to this? We should all call for a big eraser and rub off all those titles.”

  103. #103 by ktteokt on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 9:22 am

    We have lesser and lesser “normal human beings” on the road today as one by one of them refuses to be called a normal “Mr., Mrs, or Ms” but must have a prefix or suffix to their names!!!! Are we headed towards an “abnormal” society? I believe even QE2 does not “honour” so many people each year in UK!!!

  104. #104 by limkamput on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 9:26 am

    Yes, i also agree, when Bernadette gets one, it is just like getting a piece of scrap. When Sdr Lim gets one, it is befitting of his contribution to the nation.

  105. #105 by taiking on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 9:51 am

    Tun Samy?
    Please No. Not him.

  106. #106 by mauriyaII on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 12:22 pm

    I am all for Semi Velu getting a tun only if his name is changed to Tun Tsunami Velu. He was one of those responsible for the Hindraf5 getting locked up and the March 8 tsunami.

  107. #107 by ilovedap on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 2:16 pm

    Tun Samy? LOL. Just doesnt sound right no matter how many times you try.

    Kartun Samy, Fat Samy, Tol Samy, Twisting Samy, Baboon Samy, and so forth, sounded better.

  108. #108 by ktteokt on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 2:48 pm

    caishen?you have forgotten the conferment of RIP for Semi Value! He is now as good as buried!

  109. #109 by petyew on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 3:50 pm

    Maybe I can add one more to ilovedap’s list:

    tunami sounds like Tun Samy. Heh! Heh!

  110. #110 by pselvams on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 8:24 pm

    YB LKS, We have a pretty long list of problems in our hands and this topic of TUN should be deleted from your page and please put a stop to this. Lets see some real constructive ideas coming from your readers to resolve problems like fuel hike, corruption , efficient government management and more that can be very useful to PR. Thanks

  111. #111 by lactmanan rajan munusamy on Monday, 9 June 2008 - 10:38 pm

    Tuns have immunity correct correct correct TDM says sensitive statements but no action taken Tun lim keng yak will now spit when he talks even further. semi value should have his DATUKSHIP stipped off NOT GIVEN THE tun.

  112. #112 by danchungs on Tuesday, 10 June 2008 - 11:27 am

    I know why because he is SEMI VALUE so the value of TUN/50% = Dato Seri Semi Value

  113. #113 by i_love_malaysia on Tuesday, 10 June 2008 - 12:49 pm

    Samy will get his Tun-ship after he delivered indians’ votes to BN in GE13!!! Not this round because the Tun-ship quota is up!!!

  114. #114 by highhand on Tuesday, 10 June 2008 - 1:55 pm

    no need Tun
    just give him TOON

  115. #115 by oknyua on Tuesday, 10 June 2008 - 4:48 pm

    I am just wondering; suppose Sam keeps a blog like Lim KS, who would be the ones who post comments there? And what sort of comments would people post there? Just thinking aloud.

  116. #116 by boilingmad on Tuesday, 10 June 2008 - 6:55 pm

    It seems the Tunship is given to those who have messed up the country real bad. It is a way of knowing who are the culprits when they retire or when they’ve stolen enough from the country. So perhaps, Samy has not done enough damage yet to be conferred the title? Maybe he’s still on level 3, hasn’t got on to ‘Level 4’?

  117. #117 by ktteokt on Wednesday, 11 June 2008 - 5:13 pm

    Eunuchs in China were given the title “gong gong” (grandfather in English, Datok in BM) and Admiral Cheng Ho, the first Chinese to land in Malacca those days was a eunuch. Perhaps our title “Dato'” came from there after the locals heard what Admiral Cheng Ho’s subordinates call him, thinking that this must be a great title. They therefore adopted the word “Dato” to mean someone in power without realizing that it is just a title given to a castrated man!

  118. #118 by ktteokt on Thursday, 12 June 2008 - 8:43 am

    I was lucky to be conferred “datuk” four times! Of course not by DYMM or sultan but by virtue of my children parenting sons and daughters. I think this kind of “datukship” is more secured than those conferred by any ruler in this country. Remember, datukship conferred by rulers can be withdrawn, just like what happend to Lee Kim Sai but mine is a perpetual one and I did not pay a single sen for it!!!!!

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