Samy Vellu dropped as BN candidate in next general election?


Would Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu be dropped as a Barisan Nasional candidate in the next general election?

This question does not sound so far-fetched and unthinkable now as the query which I posed a fortnight ago as to whether Samy Vellu would back out of contest in Sungai Siput in the next general election during my two-day 14-place “whistlestop” campaign in Perak to highlight the DAP national general election theme of “Good Cops, Safe Malaysia”.

I had said on 12th January that Samy Vellu had become the lightning rod of the long-suppressed anger and frustration of the Malaysian Indians over their long-standing political, economic, educational, social, cultural and religious marginalization in the country and the very personification to the Malaysian Indian community of everything that is wrong and unfair about Barisan Nasional policies in the past three decades which have reduced them into the new underclass in Malaysia.

I said:

“If Samy Vellu re-contests in Sungai Siput in the next general election expected within 65 days, again leading the MIC election campaign, MIC parliamentary and state assembly candidates throughout the country will face massive rejection by the Malaysian Indian voters.

“Are MIC leaders trying to find a way to convey and convince Samy Vellu that the best service he can do to the MIC after being the MIC President and sole Malaysian Indian Minister for close to three decades is for him to fully absorb the anger and frustration of the Malaysian Indians at the MIC failure to check the marginalization of the Malaysian Indians by accepting full personal responsibility and not contesting in the next general election – thus saving the MIC slate of parliamentary and state assembly candidates from the full wrath of the Indian community in the polls?”

Undoubtedly, my statement a fortnight ago struck a chord in the MIC and there were moves behind-the-scene to prepare for an alternative leadership – which has angered Samy Vellu resulting in the reported sidelining of the MIC leaders concerned.

However, things are moving very fast in the Malaysian political scene with Parliament expected to be dissolved in the next one month – with the political fate of Samy Vellu moving one notch further, from whether he could be persuaded to step down as MIC President and withdraw as MIC parliamentary candidate in the next general election to whether he would be dropped as a Barisan Nasional candidate in the next general election.

The political weather is getting cold and wintry for Samy Vellu, not only among the Malaysian Indians since the watershed Hindraf rally in Kuala Lumpur on November 25 last year, but also in the Barisan Nasional coalition.

This was why Samy Vellu’s answer to my question a fortnight ago, announcing that he would definitely be contesting for the ninth time in Sungai Siput in the next general election, was received with such flak and hostility from UMNO.

Leading the attack on Samy Vellu was the Umno media, Utusan Malaysia, after carrying the front-page headline lead “‘Saya mesti bertanding’ – Kepala tidak ada mana boleh badan ada lagi – Samy Vellu” on Monday (28.1.08)

On the same day, Utusan Malaysia gave double swipe at Samy Vellu with a front-page cartoon “SENYUM KAMBING” and a critical column by Awang Selamat in “Bisik Bisik”.

The front-page cartoon carried the dialogue:

“Samy kata beliau mesti bertanding pilihan raya.”

“Jangan terlalu yakin.”

In the Bisik Bisik column, Awang Selamat said no doubt it was a practice in Barisan Nasional that component party leaders contest in the elections, but questioned if it was appropriate for the MIC president to make a brazen remark in such a tone.

The columnist said nevertheless “knowing Samy Vellu’s style,” the leader’s comments did not really come as a surprise.

“But ‘political talk’ concerning Samy Vellu was really hot last year. The issue now is when will there be a transition of power in MIC,” asked the columnist.

He pointed out that Umno, MCA and Gerakan have all seen the passing of the baton, but there were no such sign in MIC.

The broad hints that it is time for Samy to leave the political scene were spelt out the next day when Utusan Malaysia eported criticisms from the Umno Puteri leader, Datuk Noraini Ahmad, the Pahang Umno Youth leader, Datuk Khairuddin Yaakob and even the Umno National Vice President Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam – indicating whether Samy Vellu can continue as MIC President and be a candidate for the ninth time in Sungai Siput may no longer be in the hands of MIC or MIC President and will have to be decided by Umno.

This is because Samy Vellu is increasingly regarded not only as a liability to MIC but also to Umno and Barisan Nasional. Who must bear the greatest responsibility for the sharp drop in the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi’s approval rating among the Indians which plunged from 82% in September 2007 to 38 % in December 2007 if not Samy Vellu?

Dare Samy Vellu publicly assert that he will definitely continue as MIC President and be a Barisan Nasional candidate in Sungai Siput in the next general election and that nobody and nothing in the world can stop him from doing so?

  1. #1 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 8:37 am

    We must give Samy Vellu credit for having being able to bring the people`s support for BN to such low levels in such short time.
    Now the BN can`t stand the sight of him. They know that the mere mention of his name would result in votes against BN.
    He might win his Sg. Sipuit seat, but elsewhere it`ll be lots of red ink against the BN.

  2. #2 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 8:40 am

    `Ahmad Badawi’s approval rating among the Indians which plunged from 82% in September 2007 to 38 % in December 2007..`

    And one month later the figure is even much lower. At the Cheras Stadium instead of 20,000 they could only muster about 6,000 tourists to gawk at the doddering PM who panicked and declared a holiday to pacify.
    What a joke both these fellows are – if not for the fact that combined they are a tragedy to the country.

  3. #3 by Libra2 on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 8:58 am

    If Samy should be dropped, so should Abdullah Badawi. Both have very low approval ratings.
    I don’t like MIC nor Samy Vellu but I would detest UMNO interfering in the selection of candidates from another BN component.
    With or without Samy in the BN candidates list, Hindraf is not going to run back into the arms of BN. Remember it was BN which fired tear gas into the temple. It was BN which held the five under the ISA.
    In fact the removal of Samy will drive even his supporters away from voting BN.

  4. #4 by vehir on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:06 am

    Former PM, Mahathir has said yesterday Samy Vellu has failed to solve the problems faced by the Indians. Malaysian statesman has made this remark.

    Samy Vellu is embarassed by TDM remarks and should resign immediately. What to wait? The more longer he holds the power the more seats the BN is going to loose. This is the fact if you ask any Indians on the street. This is the talk of the town.

    UMNO too has started to give warning to Samy Vellu. This years Thaipusam turned into history where majority Indians boycotted. The whole of Batu Caves was empty, devotees moving very freely. Even I saw a car being driven around in the stall areas. If Samy Vellu claims more than a million came how come a car can be driven in a real congested place where devotees themselve cannot move and breath?

    Samy’s figures and calculation is lost. He is loosing daily. His credentials lost. He has been firing high and low his party chiefs. By doing this his own MIC members will vote for oppostion.

    Indians now must protest to remove him. Ask the PM to advise Samy to step down. Even Samy steps down the immediate person to take over will be Palanivel. He is the bigget clown in town. Dont know where to start and where to end.

    This clown being a deputy minister in welfare department cant even lend support to needy Indians. Every leader must first take care of the needy people first then only you gain the support. But poor people just left unseen for nearly 50 years. How can their children vote for Bn government.

  5. #5 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:14 am

    “Former PM, Mahathir has said yesterday Samy Vellu has failed to solve the problems faced by the Indians.”

    And Samy has said in the past that Mahathir did nothing for the Indians. Then he threatened to sue the paper that reported it. Both the blighters were in cahoots and now we see the crooks falling apart.

  6. #6 by oknyua on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:21 am

    I had a cursory glance over this in the Malay paper and I thought the report is akin to the “surat layang” famous in Malay politics, except this is BN politics. The writer is acting for someone (maybe KJ) by sending feelers to MIC, Sam and the Indian community. Sam had reacted, but MIC’s silence could signal a coup d’état, alienating old Sam and thus saving the MIC from the Indians. MIC could still deliver the votes to BN.

    On the other hand, if the MIC reacts and defends Sam, they are alienating themselves further from both the Indians and the BN. That is possible, unless Sam himself crawls and apologises to KJ. Would that happen? Reading about Sam for the last 15 years, I am not surprise.

    However, YB Lim, you must remember Sam’s request for you to apologise, because he said you insulted Hinduism and the Indians. According to him, he still represents the Indians. If that is the case, he could take MIC out of BN, wiped up all the Indian votes and show KJ his (KJ’s) glaring miscalculation. After the election BN would crawl and offer better terms to MIC and Sam.

    I think that answer your question, after all what are the other options left for MIC and Sam?

  7. #7 by Bigjoe on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:23 am

    While its true Samy Vellu should go, the problem is now that UMNO people have opened their mouth, I am NOT for Samy Vellu to quit. For the Indian community to be dicatated by UMNO is the core struggle of Hindraf. For Indian leaders, even it is Samy Vellu, to be pressured by UMNO to quit is the last thing we want.

    So Samy should tell UMNO to mind it own business rather than that of the other Indian leaders.

    Indians should still vote against Samy especially since he is not telling UMNO to mind their own business.

  8. #8 by Chong Zhemin on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:30 am

    Dare Samy Vellu publicly assert that he will definitely continue as MIC President and be a Barisan Nasional candidate in Sungai Siput in the next general election and that nobody and nothing in the world can stop him from doing so?

    Remember that he said he was the super-minister that noone can touch him so long as MIC proposed him as the minister? I think it is highly unlikely that he will step down this coming GE. That’s not a nice way for him to step down. Unless someone could find a more elegant excuse for him to step down, that might be a turning point. HINDRAF? definitely not, too insulting for him!

  9. #9 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:43 am

    `For the Indian community to be dicatated by UMNO ..` – posted above

    Nothing wrong with that. The Head of UMNO, is Head of BN who approves the candidates for the GE. All BN affiliated parties must submit their candidature list to the UMNO Head for approval.

  10. #10 by boh-liao on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:47 am

    SV, with his stylish hair, is the icon/saviour of Indian Malaysians or Malaysian Indians.

    He is a leader and will always lead. If he did not stand for election as a candidate in the coming GE, he will still be appointed a minister through the senator backdoor approach, a common BN practice.

    BN needs a front guy like him who can tell tall tales without blinking an eyelid or blushing (but seriously, who can see him blush?). Pom, pom, pom – just like VKL.

  11. #11 by lee wee tak_ on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 10:40 am

    For this fella to step down, one has to ask,”who can replace him as the top man in MIC?” Frankly, after years of dominance, SV has never clearly put up any succession planning. He may even struggle to imagine life after power and maybe fearful of events to come back and haunt him, real or imaginary.

    Personally, I don’t think he will not contest. His ego won’t allow it and political reality also would not allow it. SV has been trying hard to redeem his image since the Hindraf demonstrations. He got 1 long overdue holiday for the Indians in KL out from the PM who has more holidays than a female bank employee who give birth annually. :-) No contesting now would meant throwing away his “hard work”.

    If SV wants to redeem himself to Malaysians, particularly Indians, I can think of the following few things –

    1) make all toll agreements public and initiate re-negotiation of the toll rates;

    2) justify the compensation made to Gerbang Perdana and make’em pay back what’s over paid.

    3) also, there must be a proper blue print for relocation, funding, development and maintenance of Indian temples and schools,

    4) get the relevant little Napoleons to come clean with their unilateral decisions to demolish the old temples

    5) get to the bottom of a number of allege cases of abuse of Indians under police custody (there may be or may not be real case of complain)

    If he can do such a thing, perhaps he can recover some lose ground.

  12. #12 by Libra2 on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 10:49 am

    Kit,
    off topic but may I ask why the DAP should keep going to the press with its problems in picking candidates or about its disagreements with PKR? In what way is this going to help the DAP?
    Every page lead in the Star is a negative piece of news about the DAP and those quoted therein are DAP leaders.
    This is stupid.

  13. #13 by k1980 on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 10:57 am

    In a democracy, we have the concept of ‘universal franchise’ – one person one vote. Here, we have constituencies with more than 70,000 voters for one parliamentary seat (Seputih), and another with slightly more than 5,000 voters for one seat (Putrajaya). This disparity runs counter to the notion of universal franchise.

    Seputih clearly needs to be re-delineated into at least two constituencies, but it is not. Seputih deserves another MP but they are being denied this. Putrajaya only needs 2,540 of its voters to get an MP elected. The principles of equality are clearly absent. Seputih and many other constituencies are seriously under-represented, while Putrajaya is over-represented.

    http://www.catholicasiannews.com/@08feb/feb08cover.htm

  14. #14 by Thegame on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:05 am

    come on ppl the problem is not just because of samy.Its the entire BN machinary and its abuses.excessess and corrupt practices .Up tilll the recent ijok election mic and samy had the full support of the indians.Its only after the humilating treatment in 25 nov 2007 the indian support for samy and mic took a dive.The indians are against the rot in the judiciary,the brutality and corrupt practice of the police force just to name a few.Its subject like this which affects all Malaysians that will bring in the votes not individual bashing.samy has dug his own grave.He departure is certain.why bother with him.politically he is dead.Is it good to go after a dead man when we have more pressing issues to deal with…

  15. #15 by madmix on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:09 am

    If Samy stand down it would be bad news for DAP as the Indian votes will swing back to BN just like it did when Mahathir quit. So for DAP’s sake stop encouraging Samy to go. Please encourage him and tell him he is doing a great job and should stay until he dies.

  16. #16 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:15 am

    “Is it good to go after a dead man when we have more pressing issues to deal with…”

    Well when he represents all that is rotten, there needs to be repetitive mention. For sure, the flogging will not bring the dead horse to life, but it reinforces opinions.
    And that is good.

  17. #17 by KL Dude on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:20 am

    The problem is he still believes he is inexpendible and he feels that the Indian community adores him like Rajanikanth the movie star.

    He did mention in a local daily lately that ‘without the head, how the body is going to function’, so therefore, he must contest in Sg Siput.

    He believes that he is still the ‘head’ for the Indian community whereas some Indians themselves now have degraded him totally to the other kind of ‘head’ perhaps… ha ha ha.

    Well whatever it is, he must step down and follow the foot-steps of his allies in Umno, MCM or Gerakan who have all stepped down.

  18. #18 by mwt on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:23 am

    Ah Samy Vellu is a harassed, angry and troubled man these days and like a slaughtered chicken, he will still stretch his neck to contest in his Sungai Siput constituency. It would be his last stand and an ignominious and inglorious defeat & exit to cap his 34 years in Sungai Siput.
    He needs BN more than the BN needed him now. After an evening with the PM last Sunday, he has to ask the lady Sports Minister to ask the Indian Youths to continue supporting and shore up his declining influence. And the latest advice from PPP Kayveas
    “He shouldn’t take it out on other component parties. He should pay attention to what’s happening now in the community. As I said real time, face it what is real; what is really happening on the ground. What is the real situation and address the situation, rather than pushing the bug, looking for victims or accusing others.”

    More details, pics & video clip
    http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2008/01/more-pics-video-samy-last-stand-exit.html

  19. #19 by cheng on soo on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:23 am

    Perhaps, govt thinks that they should had the GE in July.2007! golden opportunity missed! That time, No bersih, No Hindraf, No human right day march! No Lingam tape, No CSL xx video, Not many ppl know PKFTZ!

  20. #20 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:35 am

    Even Gerakan leaders, over the last 2 days have castigated Samy. And now Kayveas is taking pot shots at him. Meanwhile, Samy cowers in his Sg. Siput bunker.

  21. #21 by Thegame on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:37 am

    For sure, the flogging will not bring the dead horse to life, but it reinforces opinions.And that is good……Its also show the state of mind you are in.How low more can you dip…let us know.Then if there is still time left we shall take on more serious issues that affect all voters and all Malaysians

  22. #22 by iweepformalaysia on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:55 am

    A coalition, according to the Cambridge Dictionary: the union of different political parties or groups for a particular purpose, usually for a limited time. Others mentioned: An alliance (or combination) of political parties for the purpose of securing a working majority in parliament.

    But in Malaysia, a coalition means “owner-slaves” relationship. In BN, UMNO is the owner of MCA, MIC, Gerakan, PPP, and the rest. When UMNO said shut up, you won’t hear a noise. When UMNO said get out, you will see someone begging for second chance.

    Someone must go and update the entry in Wikipedia.

  23. #23 by limkamput on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:58 am

    Hello, are we missing the point here? Who actually is oppositions’ main adversary? BN led by UMNO or MIC. MIC is but an insignificant party in BN. Samy Vellu may be powerful within MIC, but he is nothing in BN led by UMNO. I think we are mistaken if we think he is the main architect of Malaysian concessionaire and toll policy. And the plight of Indians – is it the sole doing of MIC? I don’t think so. MIC can’t marginalise its own people. The marginalisation of Indians and other minorities in this country is due mainly to racist supremacist UMNO. MIC’s folly is just like other non-Malays BN parties such as the MCA and Gerakan – the leadership collaborates and sell our soul and dignity for the little scum the leaders get. If Samy Vellu goes today, the situation of Indians will remain unchanged. It is just replacing one eunuch with another. The same goes for OKT and KSK. Within each of these parties they are hundred of eunuchs waiting at the wing. The whole power arrangement of this country needs to be renegotiated. The nation must be governed by competent and the capable people, not the “phua tang sai” people we have now. Yes Mahathir was/is also a phua tang sai. We have wasted more than 20 years on him. He crazes for power not sustainability, he goes for grandeur not practicality, he pursues expediency not enduring principles, he harbours tribalism not multi-racism, and he squanders and pilferages.

    One more thing, it is BN’s strategy now is to find a scapegoat, and the goat is none other than Samy. You see, the BN parties find it difficult to explain their many failings to the people so the best is to blame on the goat. We must bear in mind, the problem of Indians and other failings are jointly and severally due to all the parties in BN, with UMNO the main culprit.

  24. #24 by madmix on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:03 pm

    YB Lim, why do you want to sabotage the opposition election chances by encouraging Samy to go? Please stop harping on this Samy thing but instead encourage him to stay and fight. Issue him a challenge to stand against your candidate and tell him he will be trounced. Samy being the egomaniac that he is will then refuse to stand down. Please understand that this fellow is now a liability to BN; his going will only benefit BN to the detriment of the opposition, so encourage him to stay on as MIC chief and Minister of Works.

  25. #25 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:10 pm

    …Its also show the state of mind you are in.How low more can you dip…let us know – thegame

    Very easy. I intend to keep posting, you do the tracking. Welcome to the fan club.

  26. #26 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:18 pm

    Btw looks like an sms is floating around in Samy`s state:

    ***THE SMS
    Indians have been victimised again! SMK Anderson Ipoh teacher, En Kamaruzaman, made some Indian boys cut their religious wrist-strings & ordered them to shave although they protested it was for Thaipusam, with parents letter. He also uttered ‘Ini agama syaitan’.
    http://raajarox.com/?p=261#comments

  27. #27 by chungyew on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:39 pm

    Extract from book The Wealth and Poverty of Nations by David S Landen Chapter 15

    “Let us begin by delineating the ideal case, the society theoretically best suited to pursue material progress and general enrichment. Keep in mind that this is not necessarily a “better” or a “superior” society (words to be avoided), simply one fitter to produce goods and services. This ideal growth-and-development society would be one that

    1. Knew how to operate, manage, and build the instruments of production and to create, adapt and master new techniques on the technological frontier.
    2. Was able to impart this knowledge and know-how to the young, whether by formal education of apprenticeship training.
    3. Chose people for jobs by competence and relative merit; promoted and demoted on the basis of performance.
    4. Afforded opportunity to individual or collective enterprise; encouraged initiative, competition, and emulation.
    5. Allowed people to enjoy and employ the fruits of their labor and enterprise.

    These standards imply corollaries: gender equality (thereby doubling the pool of talent); no discrimination of the basis of irrelevant criteria (race, sex, religion, etc.); also a preference for scientific (means-end) rationality over magic and superstition (irrationality).

    Such a society would also possess the kind of political and social institutions that favor the achievement of these larger goals; that would, for example,

    1. Secure rights of private property, the better to encourage saving and investment.
    2. Secure rights of personal liberty – secure them against both the abuses of tyranny and private disorder (crime and corruption).
    3. Enforce the right of contract, explicit and implicit.
    4. Provide stable government, not necessarily democratic, but itself governed by publicly known rules (a government of laws rather than men). If democratic, that is, based on periodic election, the majority wins but does not violate the rights of the losers; while the losers accept their loss and look forward to another turn at the polls.
    5. Provide responsive government, one that will hear complaint and make redress.
    6. Provide honest government, such that economic actors are not moved to seek advantage and privilege inside or outside the marketplace. In economic jargon, there should be no rents to favor and position.
    7. Provide moderate, efficient, ungreedy government. The effect should be to hold taxes down, reduce the government’s claim on the social surplus, and avoid privilege.”

  28. #28 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:56 pm

    I have 2nd thoughts about whether Sg. Siput will be a safe seat for SV. Things seem to be pretty `hot` in that State:

    In Ipoh, a hunger strike was launched, similar to the other hunger strikes around the country like the one in Klang. HUNGER STRIKE of the Makkal Iyakkam/ Gerakan Mansuhkan ISA was held just beside the main celebration for Thaipusam @ Kallu Malai. The rock cave was splattered with red paintings of “Mansuhkan ISA” and “Makkal Sakthi” wordings.

    http://www.bmahendran.com/?p=295#respond

  29. #29 by oknyua on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 1:01 pm

    Limkamput,

    I have told you earlier I am one who looks forward to reading your comment. You could see things from another perspective, not that I agree with everything you said, but this is a discussion, and we all contribute. Without all the name-calling, your argument can teach me a thing or two. If you value it, I’d say “well done” (if you don’t value it, just ignore my comment). Cheers!

  30. #30 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 1:06 pm

    //If Samy stand down it would be bad news for DAP as the Indian votes will swing back to BN just like it did when Mahathir quit. So for DAP’s sake stop encouraging Samy to go. Please encourage him and tell him he is doing a great job and should stay until he dies// – Madmix.

    What you said is true but there’s complicated pyschological strategy here. When DAP Opposition asks Samy to go, it will only serve to fortify his resolve to stay and contest, which if he has his way, will cause BN to lose Indian votes, or if he relents and agrees to exit (due to UMNO’s pressure), DAP Opposition can claim credit from Indian voters that he was forced to go by events started by DAP Opposition…either way heads or tails, the DAP scores points.

  31. #31 by malaysia_mana_boleh on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 1:36 pm

    Sammy will still be a candidate for the next general election

    and

    the indian will still vote for him.

    why? blame stupidity.

    don’t believe? wait and see lor

  32. #32 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 1:56 pm

    Barisan Nasional (BN) risks losing Indian votes in the coming general election unless it employs drastic measures, warned a veteran MIC leader.The first step in untangling this political quagmire is for party president S Samy Vellu to step down.

    Without mincing his words, the former MIC central working committee (CWC) member declared that Samy Vellu has become a liability to the ruling coalition.

    “Is one man more important than the community?” This is the question posed by KP Samy during an interview with Malaysiakini recently.

    “If the government feels it needs the community and is concerned about the community, then please talk to this leader. Enough, he has already been there for 28 years.”

    “The Indians were loyal supporters of BN. The government could not question our sincerity, so why did the government leave us in the hands of this leadership?” he asked further.

    http://viorube.blogspot.com/2008/01/indian-votes-will-swing-unless.html

  33. #33 by yyh on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 2:05 pm

    limlamput

    well said with the right language and tone. and to the “T” on the main culprit and the rest are supporting cast.

  34. #34 by sheriff singh on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 3:11 pm

    Some influential fellows are proposing that Samy be “retired” off citing health and age reasons. They will then offer him a Senatorship and a Tunship. And make him an “ambassador” to some country in his old age.

    Imagine. Tun Samy Vellu. Ambassador to Tamil Nadu. Hmmmmmm. Not bad. He can fiddle all day and night long.

  35. #35 by Tickler on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 4:14 pm

    Maybe he`ll start playing tabla in a temple and prevent candle lighting.

  36. #36 by Evenmind on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 4:50 pm

    Ayo yo Samy , Na cholay putek na kannak poteh terima., he gonna go hiding soon at his island retreat in Aussie., he is so rich he says he don’t give 2 hoods to what is gonna happen in da future

  37. #37 by iweepformalaysia on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 4:52 pm

    Well, a goat is meant to sacrifice, hence scapegoat. Samy Vellu fits in well since he is old and useless now.

  38. #38 by Saint on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 5:13 pm

    Samy was made corrupt by UNMO
    so that UMNO can marginalize the Malaysian Indians
    The same goes for MCA and Gerakan
    Moving out Samy and substituting Palnivel will make things worse
    Let Samy stay so that he, MIC and BN can be brought down
    The Indians have made up their mind.
    BN will loose Indian votes, what ever goodies given.

  39. #39 by BlackEye on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 8:16 pm

    Samy Vellu the next “Made in Senate” Minister as undergrad2 said is a possibility?

  40. #40 by Anba on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:30 pm

    Dropping Samy Vellu alone is not enough. His influence is deeply rooted among the MIC leaders and members. It may take another 4 years to totally root out his influence. For a good leader to emerge in MIC, all the ‘bad apples’ needs to be rooted out. Only then, a different kind of leader be given a chance to shine and really make a change for the community.

    May God bless Malaysia.

  41. #41 by vehir on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:32 pm

    Visit malaysiakini.tv . Businessman KP Samy blasted Samy Vellu. Watch the video and enjoy how MIC President fits himself in the Indian community.

  42. #42 by limkamput on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:34 pm

    oknyua Says:
    If you value it, I’d say “well done” (if you don’t value it, just ignore my comment). Cheers!

    YOur advice duly noted. This name calling thing, frankly i don’t know how it got started. Anyway, I will heed your advice, hopefully.

  43. #43 by DarkHorse on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:37 pm

    Cheers! *gulp* Too much drinking.

  44. #44 by lhteoh on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 9:50 pm

    Whether samy adds value or no value to BN, is inmaterial. He is already a deadwood, why wasting time to debate a deadwood. What is important to us is to help the oppositions deny BN 2/3 majority. We must find ways to help the oppositions, a simple thing we can do is to convince our friends, relatives and people that we know to vote for oppositions.

  45. #45 by limkamput on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:08 pm

    “If the government feels it needs the community and is concerned about the community, then please talk to this leader. Enough, he has already been there for 28 years.”

    “The Indians were loyal supporters of BN. The government could not question our sincerity, so why did the government leave us in the hands of this leadership?” he asked further. KP Samy as quoted by Ticker

    These are useless statement from a FORMER MIC CWC member. He is hoping to be the next eunuch, trust me. Who among the present MIC leaders have said anything so far? Zip. This is the pathetic reality of MIC and other BN component parties like MCA and Gerakan. It is always the former leaders, former ministers and former CWC members that speak up. How strange!

  46. #46 by don on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:12 pm

    I agree with Anba’s views. The henchmen of SV should be wiped out to the core before a new MIC leadership takes over. Guys like ex-Senator Saravanan, dead man walking Palanivel, super softie Sothinathan, bird brain Vel Paari & other loyalists of SV should be deleted. Good, clean educated leaders such as Devamoney, thambirajah, Vimala Nair & like minded people should be brought to the fore. But the grassroot is very much Tamil speaking & poor Indians who might feel threathen by this group. Nevertheless, somewhere the new beginning must start with an end.

  47. #47 by SIMPLYJUSTICE on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:23 pm

    I wonder what benefit will the opposition gets – whether or not SV is contesting in Sg. Siput?

    I beleive any BN candidates will win at Sungai Siput UNLESS the indians exercise thier voting rights correctly.

    For the indians to vote for the opposition, they will have to know what they are getting otherwise it is prudent not to exercise their rights and still be the King Makers.

  48. #48 by AhPek on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:36 pm

    ‘If Samy Vellu goes today, the situation of Indians will remain unchanged.It is just replacing one eunuch with another.The same goes for OKT and KSK.With each of these parties there are hundreds of eunuchs waiting at the wing.’.limkamput
    Spot on.I couldn’t agree with you any less for these people from the component parties of BN are in fact lap dogs instead of functioning as watch dogs waiting for crumbs dished out by their masters.
    However your other statements ‘The whole power arrangement of this country needs to be renegotiated.The nation must be governed by competent and capable people,not the”phua tang sai” people we have now ……………..’ are easier said than done. There are first of all 2 sets of leadership running the country (a)the political leadership and (b) the civil service running the the institutions of this country.
    To cater to your hope the first thing to be achieved is to change the governing party.The prospect of this happening is probably next to zero giving the huge monumental unfair playing field the opposition find themselves in.
    Even if,by a stroke of real a… luck the opposition wins in this election the running of this country will not change to any degree for you have that dead wood the civil service to tackle.The civil service is not only filled by incompetent people but also could be infested by many fanatical muslims! It may take a few terms for an enlightened governing party to effect a change with a really decisive PM spearheading the change.

  49. #49 by waterfrontcoolie on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 12:07 am

    S.V. was able to stay so long was due to the ‘support’ of the community itself. There are plenty of ‘smart’ Indians but non wanted to ‘expose’ S.V. because when TDM was around, plenty of goodies were given, but they forgot S.V. wanted all for himself and his cronies. Only when the hard core poor Indians couldnot take it anymore and out came Hindraf, now these smart Indians are jumping onto the wagon. I only hope that now the opportunity is here, take it and make sure the community really gain out of it! Like Anba said, his second liners are still in MIC, they will continue where he has left off, same story. Like the crab story my many Indian friends used to tell me.

  50. #50 by limkamput on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 12:38 am

    Ahpek,
    I agree with you it is difficult. My statement is more of “fundamental desire” than an operational strategy. Without open contest for political office and vigorous selection into civil service, we simply cannot have a competent nation. That is why we are increasing falling behind and eventually even the Malays will feel the pinch. This political dominance based on race to provide the Malay security is a complete misnomer. Singapore has nothing; they don’t even have enough land, sand and water. Today it has offered to buy Citigroup, Merlyn Lynch and UBS.

  51. #51 by iweepformalaysia on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 12:41 am

    Well, in order for the younger generation to be able to walk straight, we mustn’t let the crabs teach them.

    Time to feast on these crabs. Remove BN from our sights and go for a change. I would rather bet for the current opposition, even if it is just a term. Better than continue voting for a government that not only cannot deliver, but also promoting extremism and theft.

  52. #52 by AhPek on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 12:41 am

    Correction.’The prospect of ……………………………….zero, given

    the ………………….’.

  53. #53 by Sylentear on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 6:39 am

    Let him stay, let the Indian community be the judge based on his votes, and let our minds set to rest when the results come.

    so long as the votes are not doctored.

  54. #54 by xpainxgain on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 12:56 pm

    If Samy Vellu dropped as BN candidate, surely he will get angry and left BN to form another party called Parti Untuk Kaum India Malaysia because he always thinks that he contributed a lots to the indian’s community.

  55. #55 by aiD_kamikuP on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 1:30 pm

    Right On!

  56. #56 by iyamwhoiyam on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 3:34 pm

    SV can’t catch craps from a 2 dollar hooker…..

  57. #57 by mohan26 on Monday, 4 February 2008 - 5:39 pm

    Another “dirty politics” towards Election
    Najib’s statement in Malaysiakini: “While promising several goodies for the Indian community, Deputy Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak at the same time today warned the community not to go against the ruling BN.” Also he added that only BN could guarantee a better socio-economic well-being for them.

    To vote for BN or not, is our right. No one including Najib can warn our community not to go against the ruling BN. BN had its way for the last 50 years and has failed indians miserably. Its about time others are given an opportunity to show their capabilities. Our future at present seems better with those who are making true efforts to improve the lives of indians rather than those who have evidently and openly marginalised and oppressed the indians. Those who “staged street demonstrations” are there after exhausted efforts for improvements and changes, failed.

    The accusations “Of not using proper chanels” time after time is an absolute lie. If someone in the ruling party had taken an interest to read the numerous complaints and letters sent to the officials/politicions the street demonstration would not have taken place today.

    On the demolision of temples Najib said “That was wrong on their part. We are sorry for that”. Well in a country that practices sensitivity towards religion this apology comes too late. In fact the damage has been done. To date “body snatching” is still taking place. Indian students are being abused at national schools, with the common statement by the government that there has been a “misunderstanding”. Tamil school students remain the under previllaged and poverty very evident. Our patience has run out.
    The government was lucky the indians only chose to demonstrate in a peaceful manner on Nov 25th. For those who had seen the manner of the temple distructions the heartache and anger would have been sufficient and understandable had there been riots or violent clashes against the government/authorities as a result.

    So Mr Najib, after having done all “That you (BN) shouldn’t have” and not doing “What you (BN)should have ” Don’t come telling us what to do, let alone WARN us.

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