Batu Burok riot – immediate independent public inquiry warranted

(Speech on the 2008 Budget in Parliament on Monday, 10th September 2008)

I must start with the shameful episode to the nation, which marred not only the presentation of the 2008 budget but also the 50th Merdeka Anniversary celebrations — the police firing live bullets at a ceramah crowd at Batu Burok, Kuala Terengganu on Saturday night and wounding two and the ensuing confrontation between the crowd and the police.

In 24 hours, the minimal “feel good” effect created by the 2008 Budget had been destroyed by two incidents – the police contempt for human rights and excessive use of force in Batu Burok on Saturday night and the latest Auditor-General’s Reports highlighting continuing widespread and incorrigible government inefficiency and waste of public funds.

All Malaysians, regardless of race, religion or political beliefs, are shocked by what happened in Batu Burok on Saturday night, especially with the mainstream media carrying screaming headlines like “750 pembangkang merusuh, rosakkan harta awam di Terengganu” (Utusan Malaysia), “4 polis cedera rusuhan di Kuala Terengganu” (Berita Harian), “RM1m damage, 23 held in riot” (New Straits Times), “Ceramah clash” (The Star), “23 held and 7 injured in riot” (The Sun).

Why did a traditionally peaceful ceramah organized by Bersih, a coalition of political parties and NGOs campaigning for free and fair elections degenerate into a confrontation between the police and the crowd, turning it into a “riot” with police firing live bullets, resulting in four being hospitalized and 23 arrested?

Isn’t it a reflection of failure of the police to uphold law and order when what would have been a peaceful ceramah ended up into a “riot” between the police and the crowd?

Who must bear responsibility for the disgraceful incident in Kuala Teregganu — the police or the ceramah organizers?

The police has only itself to blame when its official account, giving full publicity by the mainstream media, both printed and electronic, are suspect as history has shown that official accounts, whether police or that of other authorities, could give distorted and very one-sided accounts.

The best example was the Kesas Highway Incident on 5th November 2000, where I was personally present, with the members of the public who had gathered peacefully for a rally treated like criminals by the police, which indiscriminately fired tear gas and water cannons.

Suhakam conducted a public inquiry in 2001 and these were some of its findings:

  • There was an application of double standards on the part of the Police in relation to public assemblies.
  • If the rally had been allowed to take place at the Bukit Jalil Stadium, as applied for by the organizers, with Police exercising traffic and crowd control, no untoward incident would have occurred.
  • It was the police roadblocks that initially caused the traffic congestion on the Kesas Highway. As a result of the roadblocks, several people not involved with the gathering were held up and subsequently arrested.
  • Insufficient time was given for the crowd to disperse. Police personnel continued to chase people even when they were running away from the scene or, in other words, trying to disperse.
  • The Suhakam inquiry found that police force was used to stop persons attempting to get away from the scene rather than to overcome resistance to the order to disperse as allowed by law.

From the Suhakam inquiry, it is clear that the Police must bear full responsibility for the Kesas Highway incident. What actually happened in Batu Burok, Kuala Terengganu on Saturday night that a traditionally peaceful ceramah could be turned into a riot with the police firing live bullets at the public?

We do not countenance violence but the full facts must be established whether police mishandling of the situation had largely been responsible for the breakdown of law and order.

Is this another example of what had been mentioned in the Report of the Royal Police Commission — “a peaceful demonstration that turned into rioting was not caused by the action of the demonstrators but on the provocation of the police”? (p. 306)

DAP calls for the immediate establishment of an independent public inquiry into the Kuala Terengganu riot on Saturday night to establish its full facts and circumstances.

Such a public inquiry is imperative as the Kuala Terengganu incident seems to have provided the final proof that all the three major objectives of the 125 recommendations of Royal Police Commission for world-class police service – to reduce crime, to eradicate corruption in the police force and to uphold and respect human rights – had been completely disregarded.

The Kuala Teregganu riot would not have happened if the recommendations of the Royal Police Commission to the police to respect human rights in particular with regard to the fundamental right to hold assemblies, meetings and processions had been taken seriously.

The Royal Police Commission held that the right to hold assemblies, meetings and processions “is one of the most basic and indispensable of the fundamental freedoms necessary for the functioning of a democratic society and is provided for in the Federal Constitution”. (Chap. 10 — 2.3.2i).

The Commission made specific recommendations “to ensure that the rights of any person engaged in lawful advocacy, protest or dissent are not limited by the OCPD and to ensure that the exercise of that right shall not by itself be considered as prejudicial to security”.

If these recommendations of the Royal Police Commission, the country would have been spared the disgraceful episode in Kuala Terengganu and the police saved from another severe blow to public confidence as to how it could have allowed a peaceful ceramah to degenerate into a riot.

The mainstream media have reported that in the riot yesterday, home-made bombs and Molotove cocktails were hurled at the police.

Such accounts are highly suspect unless there are independent verification of the facts, which is why an independent public inquiry must be established.

This is because there were very biased media reports, spreading even falsehoods, over the nine-hour stand-off last Tuesday between a 2,000-strong multi-agency contingent including police FRU, immigration, environment, state and local authorities, backed by riot gear, water cannons, personnel in “space suits” and a helicopter in constant reconnaissance on the one hand and defenceless men, women and children on the other in a most high-handed and unlawful operation to destroy tens of thousands pigs in Malacca.

Some media, especially TV3 alleged that the Paya Mengkuang pig farmers hurled Molotov cocktails at the enforcement officers in the stand-off, when this was a downright lie — but up to now there had been no correction, retraction or apology from TV3 or the media concerned.

Was there an excessive use of force and unreasonable demands in Kuala Terengganu on Saturday night as happened in Paya Mengkuang last Tuesday — with 2,000 personnel from various agencies mobilised to destroy tens of thousands of pigs without any notice whatsoever and subsequently arbitrarily demanding that 90,000 heads of pigs must be culled or removed out of the state in a 17-day period till Sept. 21?

  1. #1 by ihavesomethingtosay on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 2:12 pm

    The mainstrem trash was quick enough to point the finger…..

    “Opposition rally in Terengganu turns violent” – The new Straits Times

    would a more appropriate title be?

    “Police fires live munition into opposition rally.”

  2. #2 by smeagroo on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 2:32 pm

    ANother enquiry? U hv gotta be kidding me. Since when has any enquiry bore resutls? All swept under carpet.

  3. #3 by waterman on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 2:37 pm

    Hello Uncle Lim
    Someone recommended me to your blog a few months ago and I’m so grateful to you for bringing us the truth of our nation into the open. I can’t help but feel that we are a house up & down infested with termites and not knowing when it will come crushing down on all of us irrepective of race & religion.
    I can only pray for a miraculous turn around for the good of our nation.
    May God continue to strengthen you with boldness & courage to strive for the common good of every Malaysian citizen.
    Take care uncle!
    God bless Malaysia!

  4. #4 by Libra2 on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 2:43 pm

    In this country the helpless victims will be made the villains and the villains (police) become the heroes. The media will side the killers.
    In any case why need the police go to a ceramah with live bullets, tear gas and water cannon. It went there to intimidate and provoke.
    I have attended hundreds of cerahmahs (PAS, Keadilan, Semangat 46) over two decades and the gatherings had always been peaceful. Firery speeches, yes ,but no violence.

  5. #5 by malaysia born on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 2:46 pm

    Slowly this country is going down the same road as our neighbors, Philippines and Indonesia, where public protests and large scale demos are the order of the day.

    However, if the end result is the fall of umno and the government as we know it, the question to ask of ourselves is ,”Will it will be worth the lives lost and properties destroyed?” If the answer is “Yes”, then the next question we need to ask ourselves is, “Are we willing to pay that price?”.

    Think hard before you come up with the answer for the outcome will decide our children future and the fate of this country.

  6. #6 by azk on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 3:37 pm

    This is what happens when police and the army is “politicised”.

  7. #7 by azk on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 3:37 pm

    Instead of being the guardian of peace and public security, they become the dogs of politicians in power.

    shame on you PDRM!

  8. #8 by smeagroo on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 4:10 pm

    I hv no respect for the police. I look upon them as mercenaries. Too bad we have enough rotten apples to spoil it all. The whole ochard is rotten!

  9. #9 by sotong on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 4:28 pm

    One would have tought the pig farmers incident is a good lesson not to use force to resolve disputes….now we have this incident where ordinary people are injured!!!

    In a democracy, the government cannot continue to mislead the ordinary people for narrow and short term political gain. When they found out, they will feel cheated or betrayed and get very angry and upset.

    Ordinary people should be left to live their ordinary lives of ordinary aspirations, and not being used and exploited by political parties/politicians to achieve their narrow, selfish and damaging political objective at the great of the country.

  10. #10 by Cinapek on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 4:45 pm

    The IGP recently said:

    “…. the police is not opposed to an IPCMC but wanted a fair procedure so that there is no victimization of the police.”

    Now we can see why he wanted a watered down version of the IPCMC so that the PDRM can go ahead and terrorise the public and would be able to get away with it. Who is the “Victimized” victim here, dear IGP? And all for what? To support the evil intentions of some crooked politicians?

  11. #11 by sotong on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 4:52 pm

    We have bad leader/s indulging in their dark side of their personalities – bullying, threat and intimidation.

    They are bad role models for the younger generation.

  12. #12 by badak on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 5:47 pm

    The police know who their pay master is,Its a digrase what they did,They even gave a permit and then withdrew it at the last minute,It was well plan by the BN GOVERMENT,

    The police came well prepared, with all guns blazing,Iwon,t be surprise if the first stone was thrown by a BN spy.N.S.T statement RM 1 MILLION lost,Nothing compared to the RM 4.6 BILLION stole by BN leaders.

    Did the local papers speak to any opposition leaders to get their views ,I don,t blame the local papers,Because Malaysia is the only country in the world, where the permit is renewed yearly.

    Something to think about ,were were the police when UMNO YOUTH, led by SELF MADE ROYALTY Khairy Jamalludin storm the building where the S.S OF U.S.A STAYED

  13. #13 by mwt on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 6:29 pm

    It is most regrettable that violence erupted in what is believed to be a peaceful assembly. And reports are conflicting as Tian Chua (PKR) said “last-minute decision of the police to revoke the permit for the gathering which they had originally granted is not only unreasonable but also highly suspect” PAS now said that it was supposed to be in a private house and no permit was given. They claimed police officers came twice on Sept 7 and 8 to ask the owner of the premise to sign a letter not to allow the event from being held there also the police “then dismantled a platform erected for the event at about 5pm on the day” And so would the police account of the permit and what happened. More details and pics of the 4 suspects remanded at:

  14. #14 by Bobster on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 6:58 pm

    With so many cases of power abuse by the authorities where innocent victims got beaten up, shot, some even killed and no action taken against the culprits, who else should be blamed if not the authorities. People in this country basically has zero confident with the administration and authorities.

    Recent beating of the Indonesia karate referee is a good example of pure abuse of power by the police force.

    Friend of mine who involved in the Malaysia Maritime officers (APMM) shooting early this yr near Lumut another example of power abuse by the authority. Two divers still in the water and the coast guards forcefully threaten the deckhand(Malaysian) with a gun on the head, made 2 shots into the sea, towed away the boat left the 2 divers in the water. Thank goodness they were not shot by the stray bullets and managed to swim to the nearby island. The authority till this day has been very silent and taken no action against the officers. Those involved still thinking whether to sue APMM as advice by the lawyers they have a very good ground to win the case but going to take time.

  15. #15 by badak on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 7:31 pm

    Where were the police ,When UMNO YOUTH led by self made royalty KHAIRY JAMALLUDIN, Stomp the building where USA S.S C.RICE was having a meeting.

    Our police force know who their pay masters are,The whole goverment MACHINERY is behind the UMNO LED GOVERMENT.We the voters can put a stop to it.

    The NST reported RM I MILLION was lost.What is RM 1 MILLION compared to the 4.6 billion the gorverment gave away to its cronies.

  16. #16 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 7:34 pm

    FRU man in plain cloth. WHY? VERY SUSPICIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!

    fire live bullets. WHY ???

    if every gathering of any political party or ngo needed a police permit by law, maybe Mr. Lim can dig deep enough, to see if any permits were issued to barisan nasional gathering?

    the case where the burning of the usa flag outside the us embassy, certainly a tourist area , and a high risk area by non other than the son inlaw of abdullah badawi, needs a check if police permit was issued ?

    one law for the poor.
    one law for the rich.
    one law for the powerful.
    one law for the ordinary.

  17. #17 by Chong Zhemin on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 7:43 pm

    Everytime when there are any clashes between the police and the opposition supporters, the opposition is always the one to be blame. BN will definitely use this opportunity to label the oppostion as rioters and creating chaos. With BN controlling all the mainstream media, it is hard for us to counter these reports. The only way to do so is blogs and alternative media.

  18. #18 by Boneka on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 8:31 pm

    YAB Abullah Badawi,
    I hope you have time to read YB LKS’s Blog or any other media to realise how poorly you have led our beloved country since you came to “power” with all that false promises of being “OPEN”,”TRANSPARENT” “HAPUS RASUAH”, “ACCOUNTABILITY” – WHAT LIES!
    Millions of ringgit are being siphoned off by several Ministries,(you will know about it if you have time to read Auditor General’s Findings);
    RM4.6 billion down “Selat Melaka”!
    Racist MPs from BN making intimidating racial and divisive statements;
    Police brutality everywhere!

    Please YAB, wake up, save the Nation before it is too late!
    All the ‘Goodies’ you have handed out may not help you at the next election.

  19. #19 by eltoro61 on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 8:38 pm

    PRDM = Polis Raja Di Malaysia.

    Police give out permit to have assembly but if Opposition apply it is rejected. When UMNO Youth go around burning flags and protest outside the US embassy, no action is taken by police. Like this it is wrong that the police be responsible to give out permit. Its fairer if another independent body give out the permit. How can the police be fair when they are slaves to their masters and do their bidding?

  20. #20 by malaysia_mana_boleh on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 8:49 pm

    I read the chronology of the incident here:

    “Salah seorang Polis preman cuba menyelinap masuk dalam kumpulan orang ramai tetapi disedari dan dikenali oleh beberapa orang awam lalu polis tersebut dikejar, dilontar batu sehingga rebah dan keluarkan pistol lalu menembak ke dada Suwandi Abd Ghani ”

    I imagine myself as the policeman , being chased by a group of people going after my blood.

    To be honest, I would have done the same considering the extreme fear I would have experienced.

    Let us stop being emotional and not let the emotion cloud our judgment.

    Yes the policeman sides the government but is it totally the fault of that particular policeman who open fire?

    I do not know. All I know is I would have done the same if I were in his shoes since the pistol is the only form of protection at that critical moment.

  21. #21 by smeagroo on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 8:51 pm

    after the robbers and politicians, police comes in third as the dirtiest lowlife.

  22. #22 by borrring on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 8:59 pm

    What is becoming of Malaysia?

  23. #23 by devilmaster on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 10:07 pm

    When Israel used rubber bullets against suspected terrorists last time, Bolehland with its TV3 & RTM1 shouted like mad. And now, Bolehland police used LIVE bullets – against firearm-less demonstrators! So who is actually not efficient in tackling unrest?

  24. #24 by bennylohstocks on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 10:24 pm

    “Feel-good” for a day..
    In 24 hours, the minimal “feel good” effect created by the 2008 Budge

  25. #25 by bennylohstocks on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 10:26 pm

  26. #26 by bennylohstocks on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 10:29 pm

  27. #27 by karaoke singer on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 11:48 pm

    A lot of Malaysians are getting fed up with the lies they are being fed. Simple thing like illegal racing also the PDRM cannot stop and yet today is a Monday, not the typical Friday night. 50 donkey years and this is the cemerlang, gemilang, terbilang you get for what ? For not being able to stop a simple illegal racing affair.
    So what if you tell Malaysia that she is rich but the money is not fairly distributed ? The rich gets richer. The poor gets poorer. Sometimes the private sector comes up with such bright ideas. VSS ! Better VSS the whole cabinet ! Remember fellow Malaysians. The money is yours. You are the real bosses to the money. Claim your rights now and stop being fooled into thinking that you have some very capable financial consultants up there managing your ringgit. Where is your worth when your ringgit is channelled into some people’s pockets and it is being used as they please ? There is no morals in that. There is no ethics in that. Was it just a few days ago when we celebrated Merdeka Day with such pomp and splendour ? Alas ! Another Merdeka Day’s superficial celebrations designed to take care of people’s faces. We are back again to the nitty gritty things in life. No doubt Selangor boasts the most high tech modernized completed mega projects. Ask yourselves. Do you really need those ? Or it is just for self glorification ? Have we been fair to our workers, to the poor, to the handicapped, to the unfortunate ? Is money becoming a blinding lightning ?
    Is money god ? As for the pig rearers, the only reason which nobody dares to voice out is pigs are not halal. They are dirty. They are haram. They are dosa. Therefore reduce the number of pigs. Reduce the size of the farms. Give all the nonsense reasons that the farm is unhygienic. Then you will forever live on a land that is so clean. I almost forget. Ramahdan is coming soon.

  28. #28 by k1980 on Monday, 10 September 2007 - 11:48 pm

    Agent provocateurs now?
    Is there an evidence that the villagers armed themselves with Molotov Cocktail or actually it is the undercover police personnel or UMNO goons are behind it to instigate those Malaysian?

  29. #29 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 12:18 am

    I’m not surprised if after investigations they found that the police who fired those live rounds thought he was firing ‘rubber bullets’. Nothing surprises anybody anymore.

  30. #30 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 12:25 am

    Would it surprise me if someone caught throwing Molotov cocktail says he only just graduated from a bartender course and thought he was throwing a harmless conconction he just thought of the previous day?

    Batu Burok is merely living up to its name – Bad Rock!

  31. #31 by pwcheng on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 12:53 am

    Boneka Says:
    September 10th, 2007 at 20: 31.53

    You are a joker to tell the sleepy head to help the nation in all the abuses. You should be lucky if he is not a party to it directly or indirectly.
    Anyway any PM who needs people to shake him/her to wake up to do something is not worth my 2 cents. It only shows that there is something seriously wrong in our system of appointing a successor by the PM.

  32. #32 by House Victim on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 4:00 am

    “the latest Auditor-General’s Reports highlighting continuing widespread and incorrigible government inefficiency and waste of public funds.”

    it indicated:
    1. The Patrol Vessel Project – unjustified price and changes, goods not delivered with full-installation of equipment, over payment, failure to observe the rules and regulations to prevent loss and care consulting Attorney General for interpretation of contract provisions, etc..

    2. 10 companies held by the Ministry of Finance Incorporated, with a book value of RM21.27 billion, were not stated in Treasury records.

    3. Continuation of oversight of the Parliament to act or rectify the problems pointed out in the AG Reports.

    In this respect, any Annual Budgeting will continue to be a Nonsense to be proposed or will carry any weight to be followed if they are not budgeted practically but with inflation which had been found in many occasions – either Big or Small, and, continued to be un-monitored.

    Ministry of Finance holding incorporated companies is already a kind of bias or conflict of interest in monitoring of contracts and payments. Then,
    2. If they can be out of the Treasury record, then, will it cast the question of reliabilities of any figures produced for the indication of national economic?

    After searching the websites on the 6 PVs, no specifications can be found, except that they will carry 30 crews. The cost for the first 2 is costing 800million and almost 1.2billion for the next 4. However, from the following websites for PV in other more developed countries with big coastal power, such as Canada, Belgium, Russia:

    it will lead to the questions of:
    1. Are those 6 PVs more advance than other countries, size-wise, equipment wise?
    2. Are those 6 PVs cost at least 3 times of what can be available from the markets?
    3. Why order more when the first two were not even delivered in full-specifications?

  33. #33 by ahkok1982 on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 7:40 am

    well, one thing i know is that the mainstream media has become brainless in giving false news and excuses in their report. By just being very sufficiently logical, we know that when people go to such ceramah,
    1) people do not bring any weapons or molotove cocktails right? If no one brought them, then how could they have thrown them?

    2) If someone really did brought it in, imagine someone bringing a few bottles of those stuff. Where would he put it? in his pockets?

    3) If someone who went to the ceramah with the intention of listening to it and yet still brought those stuff, then it would mean that the person is expecting some gang (yes, police are gangs now) to cause trouble and maybe harm to the crowd thus the cocktails for personal protection or retaliation. This would show that the people have already lost all sense of safety i.e. the police is doing a shitty job.

    I thought only semi-value can come up with “brain-in-ass” comments and excuses but now even mainstream media comes up with half assed excuses. No wonder politicians always say that the media is soooo stupid to always misquote them.

  34. #34 by cf233 on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 8:11 am

    PDRM = Polis Raja Di Malaysia

  35. #35 by shame-fooled on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 8:26 am

    To all the non-bumiputras in Malaysia. This BN government is unreliable anymore and never trust on the “blank cheques” issued by them. Our MCA and MIC will never sincerely help us anymore. They are actually the “clown” (boneka) of UMNO.

    If this country is still so good, why i cannot see our present or former MCA or MIC leaders encourage their sons or daughters to join politicians to follow their father or mother step? A good leadership is to lead by example. But MCA and MIC leaders never do it.

    What is the reason? The reason is simply because their parents themselve know that the future of this country is very uncertain and there is no assuarance for our future as the minority non-bumiputras.

    If these MCA or MIC leaders have so much confidence to and love this country, then why they still want to go to overseas seeking their medical treatment? I let you all to think about it.

    If we (the non-bumiputras) want our future generation to live in peace without fear, just be smart from now on to find our back door migrate to other countries like China, India and etc since these two big countries are booming up.

    No point fighting with the bumiputras until “blood washing” the land. They wants their land back, we just give them. Not to say we fear of them, just don’t to fight and save our own life to something more meaningful. We just withdraw all our hard earn money without leaving a single cent and leave this place.

    In 50 years to come, I can feel that Indonesia will be better than Malaysia as the new government there has started to accept the minority chinese there by withdrawing those anti-chinese culture policies set by the previous Suharto government. This is what i can quote if you want to compare apple with apple.

    On the other hand for Malaysia, this is a big question mark. 50 years ago, we the Chinese and Indians still have rights in this country. But 50 years from now on, if you can see a lot of racist issues that happen recently, do you think we are safe to live here anymore? I leave this part to you all to think for the goodness of your next generation.

  36. #36 by Bigjoe on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 8:45 am

    I have too many eyewitness account that the Police fired first and got the mob angry.. But the mainstream media twisted it the other way is going to make things worst the next time around. I think the coming election is going to see more incidents like these and it can happen not just in Terengganu and Kelantan…

  37. #37 by k1980 on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 8:46 am

    Who is holier than who?
    “When he was the IGP, he did not do much for the rank and file of the Royal Malaysian Police Force. He was the IGP for 20 years … the (police) personnel were poor as there was no sufficient pay … many stayed in ‘rumah haram’.”

  38. #38 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 10:47 am

    Relating to Hanif’s comment that 40% of the senior police officers were corrupt, Badruddin Amirulddin (BN-Jerai) questioned the integrity of Hanif and asked: “During his tenure as the IGP, was there no corruption?” “When he was the IGP, he did not do much for the rank and file of the Royal Malaysian Police Force. He was the IGP for 20 years … the (police) personnel were poor as there was no sufficient pay … many stayed in ‘rumah haram’.”

    Aiyah times have changed. Then it was TDM’s administration, no proposal for IPCMC, no nascent culture of public debate criticizing the administration and other than slogan “Cekap, Bersih dan Amanah” , fight against graft was not an election platform and benchmark!

    The fact that ex premier TDM could now turn against and openly criticize the government and present premier shows how some things have changed.

    Badruddin also said that “Hanif had no integrity to talk about corruption when he was the deputy chairman of a company involved in gaming activities” (Genting) whilst conveniently forgetting that his BN government licenses them (just like in the case of Sports Toto and horse racing betting and sweep results of Pan Malaysian Pools Sdn Bhd) and benefits from their taxes.

    ‘Holier than thou’ attitude on Hanif’s part? True or not, the fact is that Hanif is now making a right statement beneficial for the country and Badruddin Amirulddin is attacking the integrity of the message by questioning the integrity of the messenger, when one bears no relation to the other.

    Why doesn’t the Jerai MP also criticise TDM for denouncing the government’s silencing of critics and manipulation of mass media which he had no qualms to do so when he was in power on the other side getting the other side of the stick?

  39. #39 by achia3 on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 12:21 pm

    Isn’t this the same incident similar to the UPM students being hustled but in a magnified scale. It’s all over the country. It also happen in primary school, secondary school etc.

    This will not end overnight even if opposition where to come in power in the next GE. It is deeply engraved in certain part of our society that they have utter power to abuse the powerless and get away from the law (if there is any). Just like any wound, it will take time to heal and the medicine to apply is social justice and “No one is above the Law” statement.

  40. #40 by pamelaoda on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 1:40 pm


    Could also clarify during your next meeting with these people, WHAT are they going to do with those who burnt the Flag as compared to Namesis’s case?!?!

  41. #41 by sotong on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 2:03 pm

    There are proper channels to voice their grievences to improve their standard of living. But corruption for whatever reason is totally unacceptable.

    Had the government been competent and responsible with public funds and taxpayers money which were wasted on unproductive mega projects and loss making investments, these money could be used to improve public servants’ standard of living – like in S’pore.

    A clear case of decades of bad leadership and governance of the country…..hopefully this is the last time we see someone holding a
    book to threaten aggression when the government was asked to be responsible and accountable to the taxpayers.

  42. #42 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 4:03 pm

    Ok. Let say UMNO lost Trengganu to PAS this coming GE, all is needed to be done is to keep those ceramah coming. UMNO better watch out and concentrate all its strengths in Kedah and Perlis than to fight a losing war in Trengganu. If two more northen state falls into opposition’s hand, be it PAS or PKR, that spell doom for UMNO. Next is Penang, anything is going to happen there will be very very big and will affect the whole country, you know, like the neck being chop off. So careful there when the game is play between Gerakan, MCA and DAP which are all predominantly Chinese. This time is going to be real and it is racist politics at its worst.

  43. #43 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 10:03 pm

    “…the police firing live bullets at a ceramah crowd at Batu Burok, Kuala Terengganu on Saturday night and wounding two and the ensuing confrontation between the crowd and the police.” Kit

    This characterization of the events on that day unfortunately tends to desensitize what had really happened. The use of deadly force against a group of unarmed demonstrators was totally uncalled for. The public is entitled to know what really happened – simply because it could happen again.

    What of the victims of such use of deadly force by trained policemen? What of their families?

  44. #44 by lakshy on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 10:06 pm

    What a sad state of affairs…….to hear all the spin being dished out by our politicians, makes me really really sad!

    DYMM SPB YDP Agung and his brother Rulers are the only ones who can save Malaysia now! Hope they do something soon!

  45. #45 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 11 September 2007 - 11:58 pm

    But the Agong just announced the appointment of Zaki Tun Azmi as federal judge when everyone knows he is unfit to hold such high judicial office. You cannot blame him for he acts according to advice given by the head of the executive branch. It is after all “His Majesty’s Government”.

  46. #46 by naked taliban on Wednesday, 12 September 2007 - 12:33 am

    Toothless kings, no HOPE. TDM removed them long ago, use our votes wisely thats the only hope.

  47. #47 by AnakTiriMalaysia on Thursday, 13 September 2007 - 6:48 pm

    Can you expect JUSTICE to ordinary people on the streets of Malaysia?

    When MTUC organised a peaceful picketing …. voice out the plight of the many poor workers… the BN government blamed the OPPOSITION party….

    The opposition party may be there- merely to support people who seek for justice..

    Just imagine – a manual worker (the job is to wash toilet-maybe ) can earn RM1800 (inclusive of civil service allowance, regional allowance & COLA) ….. AANOTHER person which is a degree holder but due to difficulty to find job(the failure of the BN government to create sufficient job) have to settle for a job that pays RM900.

    With the increase of cost of living, he could hardly survive… With the increase of government servant salary -the demand and supply/ market equilibrium in the economic system would be affected too. So when these poor workers seeking for justice, the UNCARING GOVERNMENT threaten to de-register the MTUC.

    THE GOVERNMENT of the day would not listen the plight of the ordinary people of the street

    justice? what justice is this?

  48. #48 by ktteokt on Saturday, 15 September 2007 - 8:59 am

    They forgot totally what democracy means. They forgot totally what a “government of the people, government by the people and for the people” means!!

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