The ‘Stupid, stupid, stupid!’ Minister

by Martin Jalleh
(3 Aug 2007)

The Minister in the Prime Minister’s (PM’s) Department, Mohamed Nazri Abdul Aziz, is living proof that it does not require much intelligence to be a Minister in Bolehland. Before one can be a Cabinet Minister one has to be a Member of Parliament (MP) of a component party of the Barisan Nasional (BN) — and this too is peanuts (nothing to do with monkeys, surely). One only needs to be spineless, silly, sexist and of course ‘stupid’.

Nazri has also very successfully shown by his trademark threats and theatrics, why he deserves the role of the Minister overseeing parliamentary affairs. When intelligent debate and delivery is demanded of him, he would choose to dish out a diatribe of great distinction.

Bark & Bull

Following the detention of blogger and PKR webmaster Nathaniel Tan on July 13 for an investigation under the Official Secrets Act, and a high-level police report lodged by UMNO against the web portal Malaysia Today, Nazri warned (Bernama, 24.07.07):

‘The government will not hesitate to use the Internal Security Act (ISA), the Sedition Act 1948 and Section 121b of the Penal Code against bloggers (who make ‘disparaging statements’). The government has exercised restraint in the matter for a long time and the time has come for it to act according to those laws.’

The government (read as ‘UMNO’) is desperate. For so long it has succeeded in dominating and dictating the thinking of the citizens of Bolehland. The age of information technology has changed this, but the nation’s political dinosaurs still living in an ice age refuse to budge but prefer to bark and bull with the same old tone, tune and threats.

Nazri accuses bloggers of making ‘disparaging statements’ — yet he comes from a party tainted with a culture of political assassinations, poison pen letters and provocative religious statements and racial slurs and stunts. He threatens bloggers with a slew of repressive laws — whilst inferring there is greater freedom now in comparison to the previous regime of the ‘lack of freedom and some dictatorial tendencies’ (NST, 20.09.06).

Nazri should give ear to the wisdom of woman activist Zainah Anwar (NST, 27.07.07): ‘I wish our political leaders and government servants would wake up to living in the information age. There has been a seismic transformation in how people receive information and form opinions. Those with formal authority are no longer the authorities in the age of information technology. The government can no longer maintain control over what people read, hear, watch, let alone think.

‘Mainstream journalists are no longer the gatekeepers over what the public knows. The ability of technology to cause change is much faster than the ability of government to control change… The big losers in this age are those who hold traditional power.’


On 21 June, in parliament, Nazri was responding to Wan Azizah Wan Ismail’s question on whether the PM was focused on fighting corruption. She had also asked about the measures taken by the government to curb corruption. This was of great concern considering Bolehland’s slide in ranking in the Transparency International’s (TI’s) Corruption Perception Index (CPI), as compared to neighbours such as Indonesia , Vietnam and Singapore .

Nauseated by Nazri’s nonsensical justifications, Opposition Leader Lim Kit Siang leapt to his feet and accused the government of inertia. He used the investigation of Deputy Internal Security Minister Johari Baharum by the Anti-Corruption Agency (ACA) as a case in point.

Johari was alleged to have received RM5.5 million in bribes to free several suspects held under the Emergency Ordinance. He denied this. An investigation was launched, ACA findings made, but no decision was taken by the Attorney-General (AG). (The latter cleared Johari of the allegations recently.)

Lim asked: ‘How can he (Johari) come clean when the ACA has not released its findings, and when the AG also keeps mum?’

Nazri turned nasty: ‘ Malaysia will never develop as long as we have people like Lim. All these (corruption allegations) are lies. Why are you so stupid? Where are the allegations? You have no brains. Stupid, stupid, stupid!…’

Shouts of bodoh were hurled across the floor with the Speaker Tan Sri Ramli Ngah Talib making a significant contribution to the ‘stupid’ scenario with his statement that he cannot cite Nazri for using unparliamentary language because ‘such language was used all the time’. Grinning like a school bully having his last say, Nazri added to his string of ‘stupid’ salvoes: ‘OK, tidak cerdik (not smart) then. It’s like stupid too.’


Two years ago, Nazri, had, with admirable honesty declared: ‘Compared to other parliaments in countries of equal development as Malaysia , our quality of debate is still relatively low.’ (NST, 9 April, 2005) Judging from his intellectual outburst, the citizens of Bolehland now know how instrumental the Minister is in lowering the quality of parliamentary debates to new depths as never seen before.

The man who called Lim Kit Siang ‘stupid’ countless times recently is the very same man who had in 2005 also insisted that: ‘We want our MPs to get their facts right and debate in an objective, civil manner. Only then can we start talking about having a First World Parliament.’ Alas, only Nazri can make calling a MP ‘stupid’ synonymous with civility!

Two years ago also a senior Minister had advised MPs to be ready to take a lot of stick. He said all MPs ‘should not be too thin-skinned and should accept criticism made against them… MPs, who cannot take criticism are old-fashioned… ‘

‘Society is becoming smarter and critical, thus putting an MP under public scrutiny all the time… If they cannot stand such a situation, they should stay away from politics.’ (Star, 25 April 2005)

That Minister is none other than Nazri himself. Of course we would be stupid if we were to believe that Nazri practices what he preaches — which explains why he is still in politics and why he gets into a caustic delirium when he is criticized.

Coming back to the Johari issue, it was quite apparent that Nazri could not take the heat even though he had taken upon himself a few more hats — that of the director of the ACA and the AG. He absolved Johari without a final ACA finding and an AG decision.

In his response to Wan Azizah, Nazri had also said that Malaysia must not be compared to countries like Indonesia , Singapore and Vietnam . Then, with a touch of intellectual brilliance he added: ‘ Singapore is not a real country, it is a small island. Singapore ‘s population is just three to four million and there are no opportunities for corruption, unlike in our country.’

Nazri’s inference of larger countries being more prone to corruption and smaller countries being less corrupt was wrong. The TI CPI reveals that several countries with a much larger population than Malaysia fared better than Malaysia in the ranking and several smaller countries were found to be more corrupt.

Nazri’s ignorance became even more ‘prominent’ when he said that although the perception on corruption in Bolehland is considered to be unfavourable, ‘ Malaysia is still included in the premier league comprising 50 countries with the least corruption’ (Bernama, 21 June 2007). The ‘premier league’ is reserved only for the Top Ten countries regarded as least corrupt.

Still on the issue of corruption, parliament would hear Nazri say that we should not question the PM’s commitment in combatting corruption. The Minister would even declare that a lot has been done to fight corruption but what is needed is a public relations blitz… like in (not-a-real-country) Singapore !

Nazri once told parliament that the Government was satisfied with the ACA’s performance. But as Dato’ Param Cumaraswamy a former TI Malaysia president once pointed out succinctly: ‘It is not the satisfaction of the Government that the ACA is handling its responsibilities effectively that matters. It is the satisfaction of the public that matters most.’

Nazri has also said that the ACA is free to act on its own without orders from the Government. Nazri should know that as long as the ACA is under the PM’s Department such ‘non-interference’ is hard to come by.

In 2003, during his war-of-words over the monopoly of some 6,000 taxi licences, with the then ACA Investigations Director Nordin Ismail, Nazri (who was then Entrepreneur Development Minister) had said that he would advise the Cabinet to replace Nordin with someone ‘neutral and of high calibre’. Non-interference?

Bloody racist

Perhaps there is no better example of Nazri’s intelligence deserting him than when he shouted (in Bahasa Malaysia and English) ‘racist’ at opposition parliamentarian M Kula Segaran 41 times in a space of a few minutes. His theatrics took place at the end of the opposition’s emergency motion to debate the government’s decision to withdraw recognition of the Ukraine-based Crimean State Medical University (CSMU) — which affected about 1,400 Malaysian students, the majority of whom were Indian Malaysians.

Kula Segaran had contributed to the situation by quoting then education minister Musa Mohamed as allegedly saying on a visit to CSMU: ‘How (can) this be? Why are there so many Indians in this university?’

At one point, the Minister yelled ‘bloody racist, racist, racist… you are racist, you have got no place in this country’ as he pointed at Kula Segaran. There was chaos in the House as a shouting match ensued.

Later Nazri confirmed that his blistering attack was also aimed at fellow front-bencher and Deputy Minister for Natural Resources and Environment S Sothinathan who was subsequently suspended for arguing with Deputy Health Minister Dr Abdul Latiff Ahmad over the de-recognisation.

‘We don’t work on (the basis of) racism and I really object to that (such claims). I don’t like racism… we are all Malaysians, so never ever say that we make certain decision because we hate certain ethnic groups. That’s unbecoming.’

Kula Segaran believed that Nazri’s repeated use of the word ‘racist’ was intended to divert attention from the dispute involving the two front-benchers — even though Nazri had later hugged him (Kula) outside the MPs lounge, saying that each of them had a job to do.

The heroic anti-racist image painted by Nazri of himself soon faded. He was rather subdued when he revealed recently that no Umno member has yet to be brought to court as a result of making racist speeches at the Umno general assembly last November.

Neither was he as vociferous against the racist remarks of UMNO Youth deputy chief Khairy Jamaluddin or those of Minister for Science, Technology and Innovation Jamaludin Jarjis, nor of Hishamuddin Hussein’s racist keris-wielding antics at Umno general assemblies.

Brain dead?

In April this year, Lim Kit Siang had highlighted the alarming trend in the exodus of the bright and brilliant from Bolehland — which he estimated to be as high as one to two million over the past four decades. Lim added that Malaysia used to be better than Japan and Singapore in terms of economic development, but now the country is lagging behind because of brain drain that is ‘due to discriminatory policies in the country’.

He called on MPs to take heed of a speech by Perak Regent Raja Nazrin Shah wherein the latter had urged the government to instill ‘a sense of belonging’ in all Malaysians to lower the rate of brain drain.

Nazri agreed with Nazrin but felt that the brain drain was not the result of a lack in a sense of belonging but of ‘money sense’. He likened the brain drain to ‘ants attracted to sugar’ and added that Malaysians ‘leave to make money but they will return. You don’t have to press the panic button yet.’

Lim said Nazri’s response was ‘not only offensive to Malaysians forced to migrate due to unfair policies, but is proof of the stubborn continuance of the denial syndrome for an urgent reappraisal of the 50 years of BN nation-building policies.’

Was Pak Lah pressing the panic button when he had declared in 2004 that ‘…Malaysia is offering a host of incentives, including better financial perks, favourable retirement age and terms of contract, to lure an estimated 30,000 of its graduates working overseas to return home’?

Was the PM ‘stupid’ in adding: ‘We must also show them that we have equal and quality opportunities for them to continue what they are doing.”

Nazri should follow his own advice which he had once given to MPs: ‘It is better that you keep quiet and let others assume you are stupid rather than talk nonsense and confirm that you are really stupid.’

Brain drained

That Nazri’s brain seemed strained and drained could also be seen in his profound ignorance in the ‘bochor’ scandal — in spite of his insistence that the government acted correctly in handling it.

Nazri came to the defence of the two MPs who had made the sexist remarks following Fong Po Kuan’s (DAP — Batu Gajah) observations of leaks in the Parliament building. He said that they ‘should not apologise to Fong or the DAP for their remarks.’ (The Star, 17.05.07)

‘To apologise to Fong is not on. I don’t agree… This is part of parliamentary debates. Both MPs uttered the words during the heat of their debate, and you cannot control people’s emotions’. Whatever happened to Nazri’s ‘civility’?

He made excuses for them: ‘It is unfortunate that the press has played up the incident. It is part and parcel of parliamentary debates, and parliamentarians should not be easily offended by the heckling between one another… Such unguarded outbursts always happen during debates.’

The Joint Action Group for Gender Equality (JAG) (a coalition of women groups) accused the two MPs and Nazri of showing that they clearly ‘have not fully understood what being gender sensitive is all about’. By excusing the behaviour of the two MPs, Nazri ‘has effectively condoned the use of low level coffee shop talk, including foul language and sexual innuendoes, in the august Dewan Rakyat.’

Contrary to what Nazri had claimed they saw in the defence of the sexist remarks a reflection of “an underlying, deeply entrenched patriarchal culture that thrives on gender discrimination. Such a culture, which upholds male domination in society, is systemic and ingrained in our social structures and institutions.’

‘In this context, the sexist remarks that were made recently are not an isolated case. Such remarks have been tolerated with no disciplinary actions taken by the Parliament since 1995. In 2002, we met up with the Parliamentary Speaker to work towards ending sexism and discrimination in Parliament. As we can see, all these efforts have come to naught.’

In a letter to Malaysiakini, European Commission Ambassador to Malaysia , Thierry Rommel said that the sexist remarks “had an effect on Malaysia ‘s international reputation … they have a far greater and adverse impact than some people in position of power care to admit. Witnessing moreover the impunity that has accompanied such remarks, astonishment and disbelief prevail.’

Banal excuses

The independence and future of the judiciary in Bolehland depends very much on one man — the de facto (also read as ‘defective’) Law Minister, Mohamed Nazri Abdul Aziz. He has even made it very clear that we have to ‘convince’ him first if things are to improve in the judiciary.

In June last year, Nazri told parliament that there was no basis for the allegations of corruption in the judiciary as contained in a letter written by former High Court judge Datuk Syed Ahmad Idid. He added that the case had been investigated by the Government, the ACA and the AG.

In a NST interview Syed Idid revealed that the allegations were ‘never really investigated’. This was confirmed by a former AG Abu Talib Othman (Mingguan Malaysia, 4.06.06) who added that ‘on the other hand, the poor judge who wrote it was investigated’.

In August 2006, the Bar Council renewed its call for a review of the 1988 judicial crisis, which led to the sacking of Salleh Abas as Lord President. Nazri dismissed such a call and said he would agree to a review of the crisis only ‘if there are new and important facts in the case’.

Nazri placed great reliance on the fact that acceptance of the recommendations by both tribunals was also accepted by the Yang di-Pertuan Agong. Yet according to the Federal Constitution, the Yang di-Pertuan Agong is not allowed to refuse advice tendered by the Cabinet or the Prime Minister.

Nazri justified the refusal by Hamid Omar (who was second in line after Salleh) to disqualify himself from being in the tribunal by saying that “as Lord President, there could not have been someone more senior than him (Salleh) to sit in the tribunal”.

Nazri was wrong again. There were two living and very renowned retired Lord Presidents (then) and several retired Supreme Court judges who would have been suitable to sit in the tribunal.

Nazri’s assertion that a review of the 1988 judicial crisis would open the floodgates of similar requests for other cases, thwarting efforts to put finality to past cases was pooh-poohed by retired Federal Court judge Tan Sri Azmi Kamaruddin:

‘I think this finality principle is only applicable to ordinary court cases, where you have the right to appeal. But in this case, we are not dealing with a court as such, but a tribunal formed under the Constitution.’ (The Sun 20.09.06)

Nazri’s aura of openness came to a close with him declaring that the Cabinet had endorsed his statement and the case was closed (The Star, 28.09.06). He had turned a deaf ear to Salleh’s five new points for a review. There would be no finality to the Minister’s ignorance and arrogance.

His next sandiwara took place in the Bar Council Auditorium in Kuala Lumpur in a debate with MP for Kota Bharu, lawyer Datuk Zaid Ibrahim. Here again he would portray himself as a Minister who is sincere and so very open to change. ‘I can be convinced’ — he proudly declared.

Nazri managed to convince himself that he alone was right and everyone else (lawyers and several retired judges) in the hall were wrong — “there is no need for an independent judicial commission relating to the appointment and promotion of judges unless the judiciary made a request for it”.

Lawyer Malik Imtiaz who attended the debate wrote in his blog: ‘Nazri was a surprise, not so much for speaking like a politician but rather for assuming that members of the audience, comprising largely members of the Bar, were stupid enough to believe the line he was taking… ‘

Will the Chief Justice ask Nazri for an independent judicial commission? The obvious answer came from Bar Council president Ambiga Sreenevasan: “It is highly unlikely that the judiciary will agree to the independent judicial commission as one with power will not give it up so willingly… ‘


Alas, there is no ‘finality’ in Nazri’s naivety. Below are further examples.

In May 2004 Nazri told parliament that ‘Suhakam’s report was never meant to be debated in Parliament’. Yet, Suhakam is a creation of Parliament and it is a legislative requirement for Suhakam to submit annual reports to Parliament

In April 2005 Nazri explained in parliament that the Cabinet’s plan to form a select committee was dropped because ‘the King wanted water privatisation to be in place by the end of the year’. Lim Kit Siang rebuked Nazri for dragging the King’s name into the outcry over the decision not to set up a select committee on water privatization — ‘as the Royal address is the policy pronouncement of the government of the day’.

In the same month Nazri told Parliament that Bibles in Bahasa Malaysia or Bahasa Indonesia could not be circulated in the country as this could be seen as an effort to spread Christianity among the Malays. ( Star, 13 April 2005). He added that the prohibition had been in force since Independence and was in line with the Constitution. About a week later the PM clarified that there was no such ban.

In July 2006 Nazri said that ‘the presence of foreigners, including those with IMM12 documents, did not cause social, security and economic problems in Sabah ‘. Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) (part of the state ruling coalition) leader Tham Nyip Shen, replied that the problem was genuine and serious, and ‘if Nazri was genuinely ignorant of the issue, it would be better for him to keep his mouth shut, or to let someone else who has a better understanding of the issue do the talking.’

In Nov. 2006, Nazri declared that the ACA ‘has no powers to initiative investigations on reports and charges of money politics and bribery within Umno… because these offences are confined to political parties and not public transgressions’. This of course contradicted the stand of his boss who when he was the Deputy PM in 2001 had publicly invited the ACA to clean up money politics in Umno. Nazri later denied ever making such a statement.

Pak Lah started his premiership with promises of change. In January this year Election Commission (EC) chairman Tan Sri Abdul Rashid Abdul Rahman declared that the EC’s current rules and regulations are outdated and have many loopholes. An independent commission should be set up to oversee changes in the election laws and regulations. Nazri told parliament: “As I’ve said, there is no need to revamp the EC. In the past 50 years we have not revamped any ministry. So why must the EC be singled out (to be revamped)?”

In March this year, Nazri dismissed calls by rights groups for an independent inquiry into the graft and sexual assault allegations against ACA director-general Zulkipli Mat Noor: ‘There is only one process in this country and the process is that you make a report to the police and the police investigate … I think these NGOs are stupid…We don’t need another system, independent inquiry and all that.’ And so we have the police investigating the (then) chief of the ACA and at the same time the ACA investigating the current top police officer of the nation… .and the AG deciding (recently) that both are clean!

In May this year, Bernard Dompok resigned as the chairman of the Parliamentary Select Committee on Integrity . He had disagreed with Nazri on the committee’s scope of duties was only to get feedback from the people for the Government to formulate unity programmes. Nazri claimed that Dompok might have been influenced by Lim Kit Siang, who is a member of the committee. Dompok’s reply to his colleague — ‘It’s a cheap shot.’

Mohamed Nazri Abdul Aziz represents the high calibre MP that BN has succeeded in producing after 49 years of Independence. As the country celebrates her 50th birthday surely the Minister in the PM’s Department who is also the overseer of parliamentary affairs and the de facto Law Minister, will take us to greater heights in hype, hypocrisy and of course, hysterics and histrionics in Parliament!

With the Cabinet contributing its fair share of soiled reputations, spent characters and senior ministers calling others stupid, surely Parliament will continue to be perceived as a solid rubberstamp, a symbol shorn of substance, stripped of essence, sidelined and side-stepped by the executive. Malaysia Boleh!

(The above article is an edited and expanded version of an original article written for the latest issue of Aliran Monthly. )

  1. #1 by undergrad2 on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 7:46 am

    Enough of the cynicism.

  2. #2 by smeagroo on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 8:02 am


  3. #3 by smeagroo on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 8:04 am


  4. #4 by Godfather on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 8:23 am

    Nazri reminds me of the typical school bully. Talk the loudest, scream the loudest and have a coterie of starry-eyed supporters follow him wherever he goes. Bullying has no finesse and whoever stands up to the school bully will soon find that the bully disappears with his tail in between his legs.

  5. #5 by Libra2 on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 8:58 am

    These words which I read somewhere describe Nazri very aptly,

    “Man undermines the natural state by letting his (or her) ego careen out of control. For left to its own, the ego creates a powerful force of our being eager to prove we are right—an action that time and time again creates stress and conflict.
    “I am right. Not only am I right, but you are wrong.” This is a scenario that plays out in the minds of those with uncontrolled egos. Not just once a day, but many, many times a day.”

    There are many megalomaniacs in UMNO with this trait. Khairy is number two after Nazri.

  6. #6 by Toyol on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 9:25 am

    He is just a lap dog doing his masters bidding…however stupid. Many of my foreign friends are laughing their heads off at his stupid antics and sheer ignorance. Its a shame he is a lawyer by profession…dishonouring the profession. Can the Bar Council suspend him?

  7. #7 by lakshy on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 9:33 am

    It was Abe Lincoln I believe who said “It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt”. Good advice for Nazri.

    On a separate point, in the Deputy Internal Security Minister Johari Baharum’s investigation by the Anti-Corruption Agency (ACA), from what I interpreted, what the AG said amounts to what in the US they say is a discharge not amounting to an acquittal.

    This means that as long as Johari toes the line, he is ok, if not, I am sure some fresh evidence will suddenly surface. That was my interpretation, I could be wrong. Perhaps someone could enlighten me.

  8. #8 by sotong on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 9:34 am

    Bullying has been described as offensive behavior intended to undermine or humiliate the recipient. This covers doing or saying something that negatively affects another, or withholding information, material or access in a way that leaves the victim demoralised, hurt and unable to carry out their work and responsibility, including constant fault-finding, deliberate exclusion from important discussion/debate, verbal abuse, threats and intimidation.

    There are many politicians, including senior Ministers behaving in this totally unacceptable way….there is probably a strong culture of bullying from school to work place, including government departments.

  9. #9 by lakshy on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 9:39 am

    Hey Guys….Lets start a movement…Raja Nazrin for PM…..

    away with the politicians….lets revert to a monarchy!

  10. #10 by raverus on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 9:48 am

    The news have been spreading worldwide, he is making a fool out of himself internationally.

  11. #11 by Godfather on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 9:49 am

    I put the blame squarely on Mahathir. He allowed the bullying mentality to develop (Nazri wasn’t the only one, there are several others who have learnt to bully, kick and scream in the Mahathir era) so that the rest of the BN component parties could be cowed into submission.

    Now, all of UMNO Youth has that mentality, and it is difficult to reverse it.

  12. #12 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 9:52 am

    Martin Jalleh, thank you for a lucid summary of Nazri’s bouffant incongruities. Can someone please be so kind as to post it on Wikipedia? I’ve yet to learn how!

    Wikipedia? The world needs to know that Malaysian MP, Nazri, is one of a kind. He stands in marked relief to other UMNO stalwarts like MPs Bung Mokhtar, Mohd Said, Mohd Aziz and ADUNS like Zakaria DEros etc because they exhale a lot of stupid nonsense and people would just hold their noses as the bad breath pass by and brush them aside; dismiss them for such consequential ‘kataks’ (from the tale ‘katak dibawah tempurong’) do not have the DNA to become princes.

    Nazri – well, NAzri is different or so it seems. This other ‘katak’ has been to school, squirmed into some little-known backyard university probably through some backdoor, speaks a little English and pretends to be educated! Yes, he is a pretender to great intellect whose memorable speeches are history-making disyllabic utterances (‘Racist! Racist!Racist!/Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!).

    Never before in the history of Malaysian Parliament has so much stomping, sonorous oral deluge overflowed its chambers from the orifice of a single MP! Nazri forgets that viruses can get into his brains by any convenient orifice especially when he opens it and catch the bad breath from his colleagues (Bung et. al). The brain DNA mutates in viral communal politics. The symptoms were witnessed by parliamentarians and watched on national TV: oral diarrhoea that wrought havoc within and without Parliament. The ‘bocor’ roofs look like a minuscule puddle in comparison to Nazri’s Deluge.

    Such nescient parliamentarians! Nazri, you are neither saint nor scholar; no, you belong to the bad breath of viral communal politics!

  13. #13 by sotong on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 9:53 am


    This is a common word used by politicians……someone called me a blind, biased and backminded racist!!!

  14. #14 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 9:55 am

    consequential ‘kataks’ should be ‘inconsequential ‘kataks’

  15. #15 by witoutprejudice on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 11:04 am

    we need to ask Martin Jalleh permission to post his comment on Nazri to the Wikipedia. I can do it. I am the member for the wikipedia contributor.

  16. #16 by mjalleh on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 11:21 am

    Please go ahead “withoutprejudice”. Thanks.
    Martin Jalleh

  17. #17 by johnnypok on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 12:05 pm


  18. #18 by grace on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 12:10 pm

    Our qualificastion for BN assemblyman: officeboy, gardener, and gangster.
    No wonder most of them are real idiots.
    Nazri said Singapore is not a country – STUPID!
    Pak Lah said a coconut tree can bear 3000 fruits a year – Mind boggling!!!
    With leaders of IQ below sea levels, no wonder our country cannot progress!!!
    Wait for Vietnam to overtake us and Nazri will say that Viet is not a country!!!
    Happy nose diving , Malaysia!!!!

  19. #19 by melurian on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 1:08 pm

    I like this minister – his quotes and actions are remarkable – should learn to use them in daily. I really recommend that these should go down to history text books.

    Comparing with his predecessor Rais, this Nazri sure will do our parliament proud with his antics. Please don’t sack this guy

  20. #20 by melurian on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 1:11 pm

    I will definely vote him as 6th PM. AAB should ditch his DPM and elect this instead. Should start Nazri the law minister Fan club.

  21. #21 by smeagroo on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 1:37 pm

    Imagine BUsh having to deal with Nazri shld he be the PM. BUsh will vomit blood! And the whole world will thank Nazri for it.

  22. #22 by lakshy on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 1:47 pm

    smeagro…true. I guess Nazri has got his uses too!

  23. #23 by Jeffrey on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 3:23 pm

    It is naïve to think Nazri Aziz is really stupid. He is a smart aleck, at least smarter than many of his party members. His theatrics (bullying or shouting others are stupid) in parliament cater just nicely – winning their applause and approval – for the level of the intelligence of his audience comprising 91% of parliament. But if the level of intelligence of elected representatives is not very high, then the thinking of voters may well be simpler.

    Politics is but generally an art of deception not only here generally anywhere else in the sense that a politician persuades, cajoles, promises, heckles, appeals to emotions than intellect, gets his votes from his constituency and thereafter ensconces himself within the power circle to feather his nest, as fast and much as possible within period before his political fortunes turn for the worse.

    So there’s a lot of bullshit and propaganda going to and fro between politicians and the people whom they rely to vote them in.

    What has happened nowadays with the embracing of the Internet, blogs proliferate and seek to intercede as intermediary between politician and his supporters/voters (especially when computers reach masses in the rural areas).

    Now in blogs, there is freedom of speech and freedom of thought and there are a lot of clever people out there who will question, ridicule, expose and take to task mendacious politicians and the venal and stupid policies of the government serving the privileged within the ruling class but packaged as if they were serving the interest of country and rakyat.

    For once, the hitherto uninterrupted communication line of crafty politicians getting their ways of persuading their constitutency to support and vote for them is disrupted – interceded by an unwanted intemediary of bloggers who are using the Internet to intercede between elected representative/office bearers and their constitutency, exposing the mendacity and falshood of the former to their traditional supporters and fuelling a crisis in the relationship between politicians and voters. (And not just constituency – in this blog thread alone, someone here is already taking Nazri to Wikipedia for world wide broadcast of his so called ‘foibles’).

    Which is why politicians are very angry at the bloggers because they threaten their rice bowl. You must understand Nazri, being ambitious and more educated, is the cleverer of the lot and has positioned himself to be keeper of their collective interest and that of his political party.

    He has no choice but for so long as he is in active politics and seek to rise within the heirarchy he has to be their keeper and defend the policies of the party, the government, the power circle no matter how indefensible they may be. Society today is more matured; there are more educated critics and civil society out there using the blogs to criticise rebut and ridicule the government/politicians and as far as bloggers concerned, they take no prisoners and accept no bullshit.

    Our self appointed gatekeeper defending the indefenisble is obviously stressed and lapsed to name calling (Bodoh Bodoh) because words and thoughts failed him. You take any intelligent guy with a high IQ of over 210 and he too will bungle and sound stupid having to defend the indefensible all the time in this Information Age where blogs contents are hostile against traditional bullshit of governments that they were used to getting away with.

    Zainah Anwar’s advice to Nazri hits the nail on the head – “I wish our political leaders and government servants would wake up to living in the information age. There has been a seismic transformation in how people receive information and form opinions. Those with formal authority are no longer the authorities in the age of information technology. The government can no longer maintain control over what people read, hear, watch, let alone think. Mainstream journalists (over whom the government has control) are no longer the gatekeepers over what the public knows. The ability of technology to cause change is much faster than the ability of government to control change…The big losers in this age are those who hold traditional power.’

    This is a damn good advice.

    The proof of that is the latest encounter of the one described by RPK as having “two Muhamads in his name”. He went to Dang Wangi to lodge a police report agaisnt RPK thinking of scoring political points amongst his compadre threatened by the blogs and came away thoroughly exposed diminishing his political capital in the process….

    Our politicians should get wise fast and think of creative ways to counter the situation. At the end of the day, it is better to return to basics, play honest and sincere and if you want to benefit yourself, do so in a way that is “win and win” for the rakyat as well because the old mendacity won’t work nowadays in the face of challenge from the Net. If you are looking for precedent you won’t find it because governments elsewhere in open or close societies face similar challenges from the Net.

  24. #24 by boh-liao on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 5:07 pm

    There is an extra ‘r’ in his name.

  25. #25 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 5:28 pm

    Jeffrey says:

    “Our politicians should get wise fast and think of creative ways to counter the situation. At the end of the day, it is better to return to basics, play honest and sincere and if you want to benefit yourself, do so in a way that is “win and win” for the rakyat as well because the old mendacity won’t work nowadays in the face of challenge from the Net.”

    Jeff, if I may paraphrase the above; in a nutshell, honesty, humility, holiness is the best policy.

    Honesty – this excludes thieves, fraudsters, con-men; UMNO out!
    Humility – this excludes sexists, foul-mouthed idiots, despots,UMNO!
    Holiness – this excludes racists, rapists, rabid radicals and UMNO!

  26. #26 by ReformMalaysia on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 9:09 pm

    In UMNO, any Mat Jenin, Pak Kadok or Pak Pandir can be leaders as long as he can talk or shout about “ketuanan Melayu” and strong supporter of NEP…

  27. #27 by OverseaMalaysian on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 10:58 pm

    “… Nazri …, is living proof that it does not require much intelligence to be a Minister in Bolehland.”

    There is some problem in this statement. It should be “… is a living proof that only people with no intelligence can be a Minister in the Bodohland.” Hahahaha…

  28. #28 by slashed on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 11:30 pm

    “There is some problem in this statement. ”

    Shouldn’t it be “there is A problem with this statement”?

    Irony in your ironic humour ;)

    Nazri Nazri Nazri… He’s either really that stupid or arrogant enough to think the rest of us stupid. Or both. LOL

  29. #29 by slashed on Friday, 3 August 2007 - 11:48 pm

    Oh my dear OverseaMalaysian, please forgive me for misreading your well intended humour – The beauty of ironic ironic humour! Heh, I’m the butt of my own comment ;) No harm done I hope.

    BTW, can anyone verify for me whether Nazri is working in a ‘big law firm’? That’s what a friend of mine said. Astonishing.

  30. #30 by Godfather on Saturday, 4 August 2007 - 8:15 am

    Jeffrey said:

    “…Our politicians should get wise fast and think of creative ways to counter the situation. ”

    The only wisdom and creativity that they have lies in the art of stealing. For over 30 years, they have honed the act of stealing into a fine art – and they can even pull the wool over the majority of the electorate time and again.

  31. #31 by Jeffrey on Saturday, 4 August 2007 - 9:02 pm

    You are sure right about the “art” part. However likely our politicians re not exceptional. Political elites elsewhere do the same, albeit by different ways form and guises. Greed and self interest are universal, and when seduced by access to power overwhelms moral imperatives. Such problem cannot be solved but perhaps may be mitigated if prerequisite (prime eligibility requirement) of holding position of high office is the qualification of being a multimillionaire (before given high office) and a way to objectively gauge and determine the candidate’s quest for public service is motivated by desire only for glory, legacy and reputation for public service instead of access to power to make even more $$$$.

  32. #32 by shortie kiasu on Thursday, 9 August 2007 - 9:27 pm

    ‘Furthermore, there had been unanimous support by Barisan Nasional leaders to Mahathir’s “929 Declaration” that Malaysia was an Islamic state, with the then Gerakan President, Datuk Seri Dr. Lim Keng Yaik even anticipating Najib’s “717 Declaration” arguing at the time that Malaysia had been an Islamic state from Day One of the new nation!’ -BY LKS

    Shame on Lim Keng Yaik & Gerakan; shame on Ong Ka Ting & MCA.

    All the bonkers and puppets in the corridor of power.

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