The Police cannot keep silent a single second on the latest shocking revelation in the second Anwar Ibrahim sodomy charge – that the first medical report on Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan found no evidence of sodomy four hours before he lodged the police report of sodomy against Anwar on June 28.
The revelation, which first appeared in Raja Petra Kamaruddin’s Malaysia Today news portal, and is reported in Malaysiakini, is based on a two-page medical report by Dr. Mohamed Osman Abdul Hamid, the medical officer in Hospital Pusrawi (Pusat Rawatan Islam) in Jalan Tun Razak, Kuala Lumpur after examining Saiful at about 2 p.m on June 28 – some four hours before Saiful lodged the police report against Anwar.
This is the account in Malaysiakini:
According to a copy of the two-page medical report obtained by malaysiakini yesterday, Saiful went to the hospital complaining of ‘tenesmus’ – a medical term for difficulty and pain in passing motion.
He was examined by Dr Mohamed Osman Abdul Hamid, the medical officer on duty.
The doctor said that the patient had alleged he was assaulted by the intrusion of a piece of “plastic” in the anus.
Mohamed Osman, according to his medical report which was recorded at 2.14pm, found “zero active bleeding”, “zero ulcer or pus”, “zero tear and scar” in Saiful’s anus.
He also stated that Saiful appeared “alert”, “comfortable”, “not pale” and did not show any fever symptoms.
Raja Petra in his blog alleged that Dr. Mohamed Osman, a Burmese Muslim, who has 20 years of experience as a doctor who had previously worked in government hospitals before joining Pusrawi about a year ago, was detained by the police for three days but refused to “doctor” his report to “implicate Anwar”.
Raja Petra further alleged that Dr. Mohamed Osman “has now taken his entire family and has gone into hiding because the police are looking for him and want him to change his medical report”.
These are very disturbing turn of developments in the latest sodomy allegation against Anwar and police investigations, and will subject Malaysia to a new and most adverse spate of international bashing unless police can come forward without a single second of delay to categorically throw light on the first medical report on Saiful and the whereabouts of Dr. Mohamad Osman – especially in the light of the outrage and scandal of the disappearance of private investigator Bala Subramaniam in two conflicting Statutory Declaration (SDs) within 24 hours, shaking national and international confidence in institutional integrity to their very roots.
Or is the Home Minister, Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar contemplating orchestrating a second briefing for foreign diplomats in Malaysia on the medical report and disappearance of Dr. Mohamed Osman – where Hamid can be assured of getting an even better turn-out by hitting over a century of diplomats?
#1 by wizzerd on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:14 am
As usual the CID director goes after the whistleblower rather than the medical report itself. He was quoted that he wanted to find out how the report leaked out, citing loss of privacy and confidentialtiy…I was awestruck!! Bah humbug..Since when the police is so concerned about respecting privacy??
When asked to comment about the authenticity of the report, he sidetracked by saying no comment
The whole episode smacks of hypocrisy, using lies to cover more lies.
The rakyat is not stupid. The more the evidence being exposed, the more rakyat is convinced that it is a setup. The conspiracy that stinks to high heaven.
#2 by ShiokGuy on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:28 am
Aunties is a Better VICTIM
From the press conference by so call father of Siaful and the appearance of Uncle Pet or rather aunties Pet. I personally already question whether he is really been sodomized. May be if they use Aunties Pet as the victim, may be it will stick…
Watch the Video here and draw your own conclusion:-
http://shiokguy.blogspot.com/2008/07/have-you-seen-siafus-police-report.html
#3 by milduser on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:30 am
Hi limkaput,
quoting you, “Hmmmm, Hospital Pusrawi wants to find out how the medical report was leaked. That is the primary consideration, not whether or not the medical report is true.”
When the hospital make such comments, it implied that the medical report is genuine and belongs to them, thefore what ever is contained in the report is what it is as far as the Dr responsible said. Is a professional opinion and can only be corraborated by other Drs’ examination on the patient. Its just like one Dr diagnosis, saying u have cancer of the liver. so u get another oncologist to confirm that diagnosis. Not satisfied, u can go for another 10 DRs hoping to meet one that says NO!
#4 by taiking on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:34 am
Two pieces of information had surfaced.
1) Its plastic and cold. Not flesh and warm.
2) “No tear, no active bleeding, no ulcer or pus seen. No scar. No tear seen. Diagnosis:- TRO (to rule out) assault (sodomise). Advise to go to the goverment hospital. (Plan to do police report).”
Reliability of the info is of course uncertain until tested in court by cross-exam.
But as it now stand a few things could be said:-
1) Its not anwar as claimed by complainant but anwar through the agency of cold (and vibrating?) plastic. There factual inaccuracy which the complainant is not now in a position to change or explain or elaborate. Any which way would cast a incredulous cloud over the complainant and weaken his case further.
2) The agency business is tricky. Its easy to allege on the one hand. It is also easy to be countered by “its self-administered” argument on the other hand. In criminal law, guilt must be established beyond all reasonable doubts. If there exist any little possible doubt that the complainant’s case is flawed, the hurdle of beyond reasonable doubt is deemed not crossed and the accused would then walk away a free man as he always has been.
3) No tear no this no that. These are crucial signs of penetration. If there is none, then prima facie, there is no carnal connection.
Can the dr be discredited in cross-exam? Sure. Depends on whether he is speaking the truth and how steady he is in giving evidence and of course (how could we forget this) how much the judge is being subject to outside influence.
But anwar does have enough to cast a doubt on the allegation and so criminal charges must not be preferred in this situation against him in court. AG must close file and annouce “not enough evidence to pursue the complaint further.”
#5 by limkamput on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:40 am
Lextcs says: But have anyone of us thought of the leakage of a personal document? Have we thought about the intrusion of privacy on Mr Saiful’s part? It seems yb kit and gang too agrees that using undemocratic means and ways just to unravel puzzling private items for their own benefits.
Please you are making my hair stand on ends when you talk about the right to privacy and undemocratic means etc. Look, sometimes we just have to do a little evil in order to do good, got it? Having said that, we still need to determine the authenticity of the medical report. If the report is true, then frankly I don’t give a damn to Saiful’s privacy. What is the report is true but not revealed? Have you ever thought about the rights and dignity of DSAI and his family, as well as millions of Malaysians who are longing for change in this country. I try very hard to be civil here. But I just can not stop without saying this: You are self-interest scumbag who also have a false sense of what is right and wrong.
#6 by limkamput on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:45 am
SORRY REPOST, MISTKAES:
Lextcs says: But have anyone of us thought of the leakage of a personal document? Have we thought about the intrusion of privacy on Mr Saiful’s part? It seems yb kit and gang too agrees that using undemocratic means and ways just to unravel puzzling private items for their own benefits.
Please you are making my hair stand on ends when you talk about the right to privacy and undemocratic means etc. Look, sometimes we just have to do a little evil in order to do good, got it? Having said that, we still need to determine the authenticity of the medical report. If the report is true, then frankly I don’t give a damn to Saiful’s privacy. What IF the report is true but not revealed? Have you ever thought about the rights and dignity of DSAI and his family, as well as millions of Malaysians who are longing for change in this country. I try very hard to be civil here. But I just can not stop without saying this: You are A self-interest scumbag who also have a false sense of what is right and wrong.
#7 by limkamput on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:49 am
UNDERGRAD2, Please allow me to agree with you. I wonder often how some seemingly intelligent people who write so eloquently can be so scr*wed up in their thinking process.
#8 by voice on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:55 am
Please, get rid of those UMNO animals as soon as possible, if you watch TV3 news, you will notice that they are trying to break up PR, it is very obvious.
PR must work together and do some changes according to need, to face with the animals
#9 by pselvams on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:59 am
All this in totallity amounts to a diversion of the REAL current issues / problems that is now left to idle without any comments.
And this is the current rising cost of living for the ordinary citizens of malaysia. After the rise of cost of fuel there was a lot of negative comments that the government was not able to react upon. Now , there is no more such comments. Smart move by the people in power. Unfortunately the people making a living the hard way have to pay for all this.
#10 by grace on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:59 am
This episode was told by RPK a few days ago. This shows that RPK allegation cannot be just written off like this.
His declaration against Najib and wife should be taken seriously by the police rather than charging him for nothing.
Yes. RPK is good!!
#11 by pselvams on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 11:05 am
Coming back to the issue at hand, please take note that there will soon be a second medical report and the first being invalidated. This is my opinion and strong hunch based on the current pattern of events. Lets see the outcome.
#12 by lextcs on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 11:11 am
as usual…everyone only thinks of changing the world but nobody thinks of changing himself….HUDUD for malaysia….!!! huray huray huray….
#13 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 11:43 am
“UNDERGRAD2, Please allow me to agree with you.” limkamput
I can do with some support.
Bear in mind that when it comes to hammering zak_hammaad, I’m your #1 fan!
#14 by rogue on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 11:50 am
Dear admin,
I think you need to have a closer look at the second paragraph in
gundam Says:
Yesterday at 23: 57.45
It better be true for it to be published here.
[Many thanks. Slipped through. A most shameful, irresponsible and even criminal act. Lets be responsible and stop posting defamatory, derogatory and offensive comments or even downright false tales, which will only demean this blog. - Admin]
#15 by Richardqed on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 12:01 pm
“….Welcome Hudud…. i love you.” — lextcs
“Have we thought about the intrusion of privacy on Mr Saiful’s part?” — lextcs again
This is not the first that the this fellow lextcs keeps harping about Hudud, and he is now writing hypocritical crap about scumbag Saifool’s privacy, and also he is attempting to play down RPK’s revelation about the doctor. Who cares about the joker’s privacy when he agrees to make false accusations against another person for sodomy?
He talks as if he loves hudud, but it is clear he is trying to instill fear in everyone about it. And he thinks that by bringing up hudud every now and then will scare anyone from voting PR. This is clearly a Barang Naik psychological tactic.
The way we counter these dirty tactics are DO THE OPPOSITE that Barang Naik thieves want: VOTE PR regardless.
The more you see people trying to scare you about hudud, the MORE that we should vote in PR. Tell all your friends about this clown’s tactics, and tell them how to counter it.
#16 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 12:04 pm
Lextcs says: “But have anyone of us thought of the leakage of a personal document? Have we thought about the intrusion of privacy on Mr Saiful’s part?”
Are you kiddin’ me?!! Your accuser goes to a hospital to be examined by a physician so he could file a report with the police against you. The medical report is supposed to be proof of the commission of a crime.
He later went to another hospital to be examined by another physician for exactly the same reason in an apparent attempt to corroborate the first.
And you’re more concerned with issues concerning privileged information between doctor and patient?? Privileged information between attorney and client, between bank and client, and doctor and patient has exceptions. When it involves a crime, the judge will agree to the disclosure.
In this case the report has been leaked and is in the public realm. So there is no issue of waiver or disclosure. But without the doctor who made the report in his own handwriting, the medical report would be hearsay and as such would not be admissible in court. But it all depends on how you use it.
However, the second medical report may be admitted under the right circumstances, also depending on how it is used. Memory refreshing is one example. Of course, the second physician who made the report would have to be in court to have his memory refreshed!
#17 by limkamput on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 12:26 pm
The only scumbag from MCA who keeps hammering DSAI is Liow Tiong Lai. Given that Health Minister post is a curse, i think his days are numbered.
#18 by i_love_malaysia on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 12:37 pm
Some leaders of PAS are happily played into the hands of the BN-UMNO’s political trap without having the right wisdom!!! There’s song which says some of them want to use you and some of them want to be used by you!!!
#19 by oknyua on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 12:50 pm
lextcs, let me issue a chalenge to you.
1. What basic theological principle is HUDUD based on?
2. Where and how was the development of HUDUD from inception to the present age?
3. What ground is the application of Hudud valid today, and what are the exceptions?
I issue this challenge because you have been promoting Hudud but I seriously doubt your understanding on the subject. Otherwise, please don’t promote something you have little or no understanding about. Thank you.
#20 by m.hwang on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 12:51 pm
‘TRO (To rule out), a medical short word, actually mean a certain condition “cannot be rule out”, and does NOT mean certain condition is “ruled out”, as implied by RPK.
I therefore, see RPK is trying to confuse everyone.
In addition, that piece of record is totally useless in court, as it is grossly incomplete and the examination was conducted to investigate the cause of tenesmus and not ’sodomize’.
As doctors, we treat all patients’ records as ‘private and confidential’. We therefore condemn any act of revealing patients’ medical records in the public.
While the investigation is still on-going, I think it is just fair that readers should refrain from commenting anything that is insulting either to both parties.
Lastly, please leave all doctors out of this political garbage.’
Dr. Agon.
Dear Dr.Agon,
I commend doctors who observe the sanctity of professional priviledge however in my opinion RPK does not have such a doctor patient relationship with the patient. The chain has been broken the moment the report left the hospital grounds.
If this document is genuine then we as laypersons know a few things that even doctors cannot deny:
1. The complainant complained that some plastic item was shoved into his a**;
2. There was no bleeding in the a**;
3. No blood in the stool;
4. No tear in the a**;
5.No wound or injury to the a**; AND
6. No infection in the a**.
There is no need to even argue about the meaning of TRO.
From the above we can deduce the following, either:
1. the Complainant was playing doctor with his aunt and accidentally did one onto himself; or
2. the Complainant sat on a plastic bottle on his couch which somehow hurt his a** but did not cause serious injury; or
3. someone who had an axe to grind with the Complainant shoved a plastic bottle into his a** but did not cause serious injury.
In a ‘nut’ shell, the Complainant was NOT sodomised as there was no evidence of carnal intercourse. If he was not sodomised, how can Anwar be accused to be a sodomite? How can RPK be confusing us with TRO when we the report is so clear without even deciphering the meaning of TRO?
The main point is if the accused is not Anwar, this entire complain would have been closed and with the accuser facing the possibility of a criminal or civil suit for defamation. Why accord such treatment not in accordance with proper procedure just because it is Anwar? Why is there no police report? What rule of law is the government talking about when the police cannot even provide Anwar with his most basic of rights i.e. the right to know the basis of the complaint agaist him?
Justice must not only be done but must be seen to be done. What we have seen so far is a blatant attempt to disregard proper investigation procedures when there is insubstantial evidence to charge Anwar. The perception of the public is the police is trying to doctor evidence against Anwar and it is imperative that they should quash such perception immediately to restore an already battered reputation.
This document is not useless in court. Alone it will cause the case against Anwar to crumble because it will show malice. However I do admit that without the doctor who wrote this it may not be admissible. Let’s see whether we will have another Balasubra disappearing act.
On your plea to leave all doctors out of this, we can’t because there are too many instances of doctoring, medical or otherwise, in this case.
#21 by One4All4One on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 1:37 pm
It is all still flip-flopping..
Nothing changes for now..
#22 by Evenmind on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 2:36 pm
One thing you can be sure of : UMNO is sodomizing the whole nation, and PAS is soon joining the fray , where race based politics is going to rein supreme, why don’t they have an orgy between themselves.
#23 by PSM on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 3:41 pm
Spare a thought for this courageous Doctor (& his family). God give them strenght & protect them from our Police!God help Malaysia for we are surely in the clutches of the Devil & his Minions!
#24 by zak_hammaad on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 5:00 pm
When you have a police force that is subservient to the current shameless leadership, how can anyone expect them to hasten closure on the whole saga? I think Najib will want to drag this on as long as he can so that Anwar can be forced not to contest in any by-election. Worst case scenario for Anwar would be to be found guilty and barred from politics for another few years. I think the former is more likely.
Machinations of dirty politics at their best in good ol Malaysia.
#25 by AhPek on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 5:29 pm
“And you’re more concerned with issues concerning priveleged information between doctor and patient?? Priveleged information between attorney and client,between bank and client and doctor and patient has exception.When it involves a crime,the judge will agree to the disclosure.”. undergrad 2.
Sure he has to for the medical report is one of the most important if not the most important factor in establishing the truth or otherwise of a rape or sodomy case.So Lextcs’s your overzealousness in placing utmost importance to priveleged information between doctor and patient is out of sync in the administration of justice and as such unwarranted.
#26 by AA234567 on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 6:35 pm
Uncle Kit,
We were told to break and smash the ‘back-bone’ of UMNO while attending your ceramah before the GE. True enough we smashed half of it and now UMNO is crawing and using the last straw to play with PAS.
And the other half of the UMNO ‘backbone’ is waiting to be smashed with the rising of Anwar’s popularity.
PAS will never rule this country simply because the majority of the rakyat esp. the non-Muslim and also a large numbers of Muslim is dead agaisnt the Islamic state & Hudud laws.
While the PR is struggling to unite can you please ask Karpal to keep his bloody mouth shut? He always jump the to show he’s the lion of Jelutong!
Most of the statement he made is helping the BN media to run down the PR and implicate DAP is anti-Malay & Islam.
I think he should spend more time with his grand-children instead of making unnecessary remarks!!
See what is reported in the MSM today and I wont be surprise Karpal will retort that DAP will breakaway from PR in tomorrow’s newspaper!!!
Handle UMNO first and then settle with PAS later.
I still respect you but…. pls lah Karpal learn to play politcics too!!
#27 by zak_hammaad on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 8:13 pm
AA, what makes you believe that Pakatan would be any better at leadership than BN? Knowing the amphibious nature of Anwar and the secular agenda of DAP and the Islamic agenda of PAS, do you not think that the BN has more synchrony amongst their various parties than Pakatan? And despite this struggle to find a common vision to move Malaysia forward. Change for sure is long over-due in, but I doubt it will come via BN or Pakatan; your views will be much appreciated.
PAS’s vision of Malaysia as far as I have read and seen in Kelantan and heard is NOT about “Islamic state” as per say, it is moreso about Islamic administration and prevention of social ills. As for hudood laws, I think you need to stop mimicking global media misinformation and understand it not just about punishment; Shar’iah as a whole is a comprehensive way of life that covers everything. That’s why secularism as the DAP understand it, is a dead-end idea because Malaysian demography will not accept nor allow it.
#28 by AA234567 on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 8:50 pm
Neither Pas nor Dap ideas will.
Whichever party fails to uphold their duty should be voted out.
Karpal is pressing the button while Nik Aziz is smart knowing that the greed-UMNO will not agreed to disolve or they will lose all their ‘gold mines’.
Thats why we need a two party system (whether BN,PR or others composition) to have a check and balance for the various races and the economic development of this country.
#29 by kosmoalpha on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 9:52 pm
umno moves are rather obvious,to break on the main link of pakatan rakyat,by hook or by crook..nail anwar;then stirring shit between dap n pas..if they come thro’ everything would be de javu,they would be then able restart sodomising the rakyat n nation all the way by hiding behind the racial profiling curtain again,pathetic jus pathetic!!when are malaysian going to wake up????
#30 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 10:41 pm
zak_hammaad Says:
Today at 17: 00.43 (5 hours ago)
When you have a police force that is subservient to the current shameless leadership, how can anyone expect …”
Malaysia is not a military dictatorship. Has never been. The country’s police force and all the armed forces are necessarily subservient to the civilian political leadership. Another instance of your much lauded liberal use of terms??
#31 by zak_hammaad on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 - 11:56 pm
undergrad, seems like I have become used to clarifying my statements to you each time you are unable to comprehend them :^)
You are correct in that the security apparatus of the country serves the orders from the top; however where you have a “shameless leadership” that abuses the powers it is bestowed with, we have a dilemma where the police will continue to obey orders whether they are right or wrong. The criticism is of the shameless leadership and not the subservience of the police. I will make a note to make everything as clear as possible when you are around… Adios.
#32 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 30 July 2008 - 2:07 am
“undergrad, seems like I have become used to clarifying my statements to you each time you are unable to comprehend them” zak_hammaad
Each time I’m unable to comprehend them?! We can do without the arrogance!
What’s so difficult to understand what you wrote? You identified the problem as being a police force that is “subservient” to the leadership. My response to that is the military (including the police) is supposed to be subservient to the civilian political leadership. Malaysia is a democracy ruled by an elected government and not by a military junta.
Now you’re referring to the “dilemma where the police will continue to obey orders whether they are right or wrong”. In other words you are suggesting that since the country’s elected leaders have lost their moral legitimacy to rule because of the widespread abuse of power and the corruption, the police should take over!
The role of the police is to maintain public order (the military to protect the country against its external enemies). Are you saying the police has been given orders which are different? Do you know something we don’t?
It is easy to blame readers for their lack of powers of comprehension when the problem is your lack of ability to express yourself accurately. I think it is time you stop talking down on readers!
#33 by zak_hammaad on Wednesday, 30 July 2008 - 4:48 pm
“Talking down”? Why is it that other’s have to conform to your style of acceptable behaviour when posting? If you think I am “talking down” maybe you should loosen your sensitivity level and not feel so hard-done by other people’s writing style.
#34 by One4All4One on Wednesday, 30 July 2008 - 7:38 pm
We are just reading FLIPS and FLOPS in the blogs and postings nowadays.
Nothing new and enlightening.
Guess this is just what it is all about.
What can be done to enable the nation to move forward?
I suppose only a concerted, well thought out and executed plan, which involves a representative and major portion of the rakyat would do the job. Of course saying is always easier than doing.
But then again, if the seed of change ( for the better, of course) is not sown, how could we expect the “tree of our dreams” to be grown?
A NEW MALAYSIA has to be pursued for the sake of the future. It is a changed world, and is ever changing. How prepared are we in facing new realities?
The path to the future certainly cannot be the one the nation is taking then and now. It may be insufficient. It has to be based on a broader and more universal and global approach. We have to fight the parochial, racial and communal model used now. We have to transcend that, like it or not. We have to take a more educated and knowledge-based module. Anything less will not do.
Any takers? Only genuine, true to self, patriotic, selfless, open minded, tireless individuals would be well suited to generate the movement.
There is no room for bigotry. No room for back-biting. No room for hypocrisy. Certainly no room for the faint hearted.
#35 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 30 July 2008 - 10:59 pm
“…..you should loosen your sensitivity level and not feel so hard-done by other people’s writing style.” zak_hammaad
Now it is about ’sensitivity’. You just don’t get it. Do you?? Don’t confuse the issue.
“Other people’s writing style”?? Your bad English is no excuse for a writing style. Style is something you don’t have. Your haughtiness never fails to amaze me!
But at least I see you’re making an effort at not talking down to readers the way you started out.
#36 by ckyap on Saturday, 2 August 2008 - 12:30 pm
Best joke of the day. Thanks for cheering up my day, PM.