RPK’s bombshell allegation on Altantuya murder – Abdullah, Najib, Rosmah cannot remain silent


The Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, the Deputy Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Najib Razak and his wife Datin Seri Rosmah Mansor cannot remain silent on the latest bombshell of blogger Raja Petra Kamaruddin.

In a statutory declaration on June 18, 2008, Raja Petra accused Rosmah as among three individuals who were present when Altantuya was murdered on Oct 19, 2006.

Raja Petra alleged in his statutory declaration: “I have been reliably informed that between about 10pm on October 19, 2006 and early hours of the following day, the night Altantuya Shaariibuu was murdered, three other people were also present at the scene of crime.”

He named the two other individuals as one acting colonel Aziz Buyong, who is described as ‘a C4 expert’ and the latter’s wife, known only as Norhayati, who is also said to be Rosmah’s aide de camp.

Raja Petra further alleged:

“My informer states that Aziz was the person who placed the C4 on various parts of Altantuya’s body witnessed by Rosmah and Norhayati.

“I make this statutory declaration because I have been reliably informed about the involvement of these three people who have thus far not been implicated in the murder nor called as witnesses by the prosecution in the ongoing trial at the Shah Alam High Court.

“I also make this statutory declaration because I am aware that it is a crime not to reveal evidence that may help the police in its investigation of the crime.”

Raja Petra said he had been “reliably informed” that the Prime Minister “has received a written report from military intelligence confirming what I have revealed and this report was subsequently handed over to his son-in-law Khairy Jamaluddin for safekeeping”.

Raja Petra also claimed that “one of the Rulers has been briefed about this matter” and “is fully aware” of the allegation.

The credibility and legitimacy of the Abdullah premiership and government will suffer a mortal blow if Abdullah, Najib and Rosmah remain silent on Raja Petra’s bombshell allegations.

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  1. #1 by yog7948 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 12:01 am

    “In the boleh land you need to be a crook to join in UMNO.”

    Or you can join in to be trained as one..

  2. #2 by passerby on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 12:45 am

    According to the Star, the police is going to “investigate” RPK’s allegations. The question on everyone’s mouth now is is our police really capable and qualified to do the investigation? we all know the police and all other departments are part of umno’s sub-divisions and we all know what the result is going to be.

    If not, should the people demand an international reputable police force to carry out an impartial investigation so that all guilty parties be punished according to the law, since the people cannot trust their own police to do a fair job.

    We all know the police will not investigate any umnoputras or will cooked up charges against it’s enemies like DSAI or try to stop further investigation higher-up like the Altantuya’s murder. There are so many questions in Altantuya’s case still not answered and yet they said no other people were involved other than those being charged.

  3. #3 by undergrad2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:56 am

    “If not, should the people demand an international reputable police force to carry out an impartial investigation so that all guilty parties be punished according to the law, since the people cannot trust their own police to do a fair job.”

    This necessarily calls for the abrogation or surrender of our sovereignty to a foreign nation! We have sole jurisdiction over such matters. No can do. United Nations? That also no can do.

  4. #4 by undergrad2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:57 am

    Private prosecution? Also no can do.

  5. #5 by The Enforcer on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 2:08 am

    RPK we salute you!!!
    Was very proud to be M’sian in my younger days. Always unshamely boasting how beautiful and blessed Malaysia is to all foreign friends. How has all these changed in such a short time. Am now really ashame to be one. Imagine how the world sees us M’sian and how these GOONS have tarnished the good name and image of the country!!!
    How right the jingle for visit M’sia… “Malaysia Truly A.S.I.A.” (ASIA denotes:- Always Sin In Accordance (with UMNO policies) or Always Sin In Alliance (with UMNO and BN)
    Am sure by now, we would be the laughing stock in the eyes of earthlings and which country in the world would dare to invest here if what the allegations above are true.
    Uncle Lim, these are serious issues. What can be done? ( other then to change the government ASAP, can’t anyone higher up step in ) We want to live as proud M’sians again and in the shortest possible time and manner. We want our children and grandchildren to be proud M’sians just like when we were young.
    What say you, loving, caring and peace loving CITIZENS of MALAYSIA, do we want to live in DISGRACE and have our beautiful country run by these JERKS?

  6. #6 by bennylohstocks on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 3:42 am

    elsewhere no report..

    SILLY NOTHINGS

  7. #7 by undergrad2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 4:46 am

    According to the STAR

    The AG’s Chambers has filed a police report against Raja Petra over the statutory declaration. The AG said “We want to investigate it. If it’s true, we will act accordingly. If not, the writer will be investigated.”

    Reading between the lines it looks like the writer is going to be investigated!

    Anything new??

  8. #8 by passerby on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 5:25 am

    The AG is making himself stupid if that is what he said he is going to do. What has he been doing all this time – sleeping? You already have 3 confirmed suspects and their statements and you don’t have the balls to question them further. What is wrong with you – no balls?

  9. #9 by cvl on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 6:13 am

    YB, pse take every opportunity to highlight this SD in parliament today.

    While on the concerns of PDRM inaction, I wonder if private investigators can fill in more details and indirectly speed up matters?

  10. #10 by undergrad2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 6:24 am

    passerby Says:

    Today at 05: 25.44 (53 minutes ago)
    The AG is making himself stupid if that is what he said he is going to do. What has he been doing all this time – sleeping? What is wrong with you – no balls?”

    Passerby,

    The AG does not want to play ball.

  11. #11 by wtf2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 7:15 am

    this ag (and the syed egghead) is infamous for losing pedra banca amongst many other things like his credibility and integrity. People should demand his resignation for his incompetence and stupidity

  12. #12 by ktteokt on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 8:00 am

    Is there such a thing as “POLITICAL IMMUNITY” which would exempt these three VIP suspects from investigation? What if they were from the other camp instead? Now that Malaysian politics has been streamlined to a “two party” system, there is no such thing as the “opposition” in Malaysia.

    BN may be the “ruling party” in some states but in states like Kedah, Penang, Perak, Selangor and Kelantan, BN has become the “opposition”. This makes the situation a balanced one and eliminating the term “opposition”. Therefore, it is time for BN to wake up and take steps in ensuring “equality” in treatment of MPs, VIPs, and what nots from the other camp! Times have changed and so has the tide!

  13. #13 by undergrad2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 8:25 am

    ktteokt Says:

    Today at 08: 00.11 (21 minutes ago)
    Is there such a thing as “POLITICAL IMMUNITY” which would exempt these three VIP suspects from investigation? ”

    Even the Agong and the Malay sultans do not enjoy immunity from criminal prosecution. How could the country’s Prime Minister and Cabinet members be immune from criminal prosecution? No one is.

  14. #14 by Tickler on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 8:34 am

    BLAST FROM THE PAST:

    The Attorney-General Tan Sri Gani Patail must come forward to give proper explanation to end the thousand-and-one questions swirling around the last-minute change of prosecution team in the high-profile Mongolian Altantunya Shaariibuu murder trial or Malaysia’s system of justice is in for another chapter of adverse publicity both nationally and internationally, ending up as the greatest casualty.

    Gani should know that his explanation that the last-minute switch of prosecution was to enable “a fair trial” raises more questions than giving an answer.

    It explains not only nothing, but implies that continuing with the original prosecution team of DPPs Salehuddin Saidin and Noorin Badaruddin could be against the interests of ensuring “a fair trial” and if so, clearly the Attorney-General must explain why, since it casts a serious reflection on the professionalism and integrity of Salehuddin and Noorin.

    Furthermore, why if there has to be a switch of the prosecution team for whatever reasons, the change was not made earlier as the charges of murder against the three accused were first made in November 15 last year while the trial dates for 25 days starting on Monday was fixed by the Shah Alam High Court as far back as March 9, 2007.

    Gani should explain whether the last-minute switch of the prosecution team was to strengthen the chances of securing convictions in the Altantunya Shaariibuu trial and if so, how.

    Why was the whole prosecution team switched, instead of directing DPP Tun Abdul Majid Tun Hamzah to lead the prosecution team but still comprising Salehuddin and Noorin since they had been involved in the preparation of the trial right from the beginning?

    Gani should be aware of the political implications of and the world-wide interests in the trial and should be wary of taking any steps which can only give wing to speculation of political interference in the conduct of the trial.

    The Attorney-General cannot continue to keep silent as the reputation and international standing of the Malaysian system of justice, which is trying, not too successfully, to regain national and international confidence after two decades of relentless assault and erosion by the Executive, will otherwise be the greatest casualty.

    - Lim Kit Siang

  15. #15 by Godfather on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 8:41 am

    Why did the AG have to lodge a police report against RPK ? The police have already said that they will look into it (which is a different story), but why is there a need to tell the police that they must also investigate RPK ?

    This is the AG that obtained a 3rd class honours degree (the next grade is an “F”). This is the AG that lost high profile cases like the Noritta Samsuddin and Koh Kim Teck cases. This is the AG that did all the dirty work for Mahathir, and then switched seamlessly to doing all the dirty work for Badawi. This is the AG that shouted “unconstitutional” at anything that moved regarding royalty, and then failed to back up his own convictions.

    Fair investigation ? Nah. Short of RPK having a copy of the military intelligence report or a videoclip of the execution, nothing is going to be done.

  16. #16 by Godfather on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 8:43 am

    “How could the country’s Prime Minister and Cabinet members be immune from criminal prosecution? No one is.” Undergrad2

    You sure about this ?

  17. #17 by taiking on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 8:43 am

    I hope the mongolian lady was alive at the time when the C4 was attached. I hope her pleas and cries got to the ears of all those who were present. And the splattering scene, to their eyes. I hope the scene, her pleas and cries now ring in their minds and in their dreams – loudly and incessantly. And weigh down their hearts and soul. I hope. Yes that God would help the mongolian lady. For in this lovely country, only God has greater strength and power than UMNO and BN.

  18. #18 by Jeffrey on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 8:44 am

    The Star report of 23rd June on “Cops top probe RPK’s claims” refers.

    According to report:

    1. Police to call on RPK to invetigate;

    2. AG Chambers “has lodged a police report against RPK over the Statutory Declaration.

    Nothing wrong with 1. something not quite right about 2 here. :)

    The normal way would be for police to investigate allegations such as those made by RPK, submit findings of investigations to AG Chambers which will decide whether there is a basis to charge those implicated by allegations and investigated, a prosecutorial discretion that ought to be discharged – in public eyes – impartially.

    As it happened before police investigations have commenced much less completed for AG chambers to make a determination, the latter have already jumped the gun and lodged police report against RPK on grounds that this allegations are highly defamatory.

    This would be undermining its own future course of action when exercising prosecutorial discretion if it should turn out to be not to charge…

    For the lay public would say, of course that would be an expected result since it has already prejudged the allegations as not having merits based on its act of lodging a police report against RPK even before police investigations have commenced much less completed to present to it the results of the investigations!

  19. #19 by Jeffrey on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 9:02 am

    Aside from question of not charging those implicated in RPK’s allegations, even if it were to subsequently decide charging RPK later for criminal defamation, it would be open to question by public in respect of whether there is impartiality and objectivity when it has prior lodged a report against him before investigations of RPK’s claims. One can’t lodge a police report and charge and prosecute at the same time without questions like these raised.

    AG should (constitutionally) be an impartial judge on the high benches above the fray below but it has unwittingly descended into the arena prematurely and got affected by the dust of conflict…

  20. #20 by Tickler on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 9:02 am

    On the day Razak Baginda was formally charged November 16 for abetment of the Mongolian woman’s murder, the accused’s wife was reported to have exclaimed that her husband has been framed, and made an outburst in the court compound, that:

    “He is a good man. He is not the Prime Minister of this country. He doesn’t want to be one.

    “He is not interested in all that.”

    What’s the riddle in bringing up the context of ‘Prime Minister? None of the Media that reported it has explained it.

  21. #21 by rainbowseahorse on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 9:20 am

    Remember the British strategy during WWII when London suffered bombings from German’s V-rocket bombs? The media agreed with the government to complete news blackout to prevent the Germans from knowing the true extend of damages done by their V-rocket bombs.

  22. #22 by undergrad2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 10:22 am

    Godfather,

    Yes.

  23. #23 by Godfather on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 10:23 am

    This is the AG that has the temerity to charge a bunch of Indians throwing stones at helmeted FRU personel with attempted murder. We have never had an impartial AG for 30 years, and there won’t be one unless this corrupt regime is overthrown.

  24. #24 by Godfather on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 10:25 am

    Undergrad2:

    So how could the previous PM “select” the judge for the Anwar trial, “select” the evidence, “select” the appeals court judge if he was not above the law ?

  25. #25 by Godfather on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 10:27 am

    Wasn’t the judge for the Altantuya trial “selected”, and wasn’t the prosecutor also “selected” ? And what chances will it be that if there’s an appeal, the appeals court judge will also be “selected”?

  26. #26 by AhPek on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 10:43 am

    The trial of Anwar Ibrahim is a stage-managed trial and the current Altantuya case trial has all the makings of one as well.

  27. #27 by Godfather on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 10:56 am

    And why do you think that, after all the promises of judicial reform, the court of appeals President is still the individual nominated by UMNO ?

  28. #28 by undergrad2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 11:08 am

    “Why did the AG have to lodge a police report against RPK ? The police have already said that they will look into it (which is a different story), but why is there a need to tell the police that they must also investigate RPK ?” Godfather

    The police should be investigating the allegations made and not the party who makes those allegations – unless they are saying he could be one of the conspirators to the crime of murder! That is absurd. Even a nincompoop could tell you that that is not the way to proceed. If upon investigation they found the allegations were baseless, then they may want to investigate the party making those allegations to see if a crime has been committed, if there is enough evidence to charge him with the crime.

    We know why they are interested in investigating the messenger than the message! By investigating the messenger and appearing to find the message false or baseless, it would be one way to exonerate those against whom the allegations were made.

  29. #29 by undergrad2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 11:19 am

    “We have never had an impartial AG for 30 years…” Godfather

    The duty of the AG is to prosecute. The police investigates the crime supposed to have been committed and identifies the party or parties. Once the investigation is completed, they pass the ‘bundle’ to the relevant section of the Attorney-General’s Chambers and in high profile cases, the AG would personally decide whether there is enough evidence to proceed. This is the stage of the process most susceptible to political interference.

  30. #30 by i_love_malaysia on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 11:24 am

    There’s nothing new under the Sun!!!

    People (including King and Queen in the world) killed one another bacause of many reasons, one of them is jealousy!!! When the jealousy flame is so high that people wanted to do it by themselves (still remember that one of our ex-ministers had done this before) or to see their “enemy” killed infront of their naked eyes in order to believe and to quence their anger!!!

  31. #31 by undergrad2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 11:30 am

    “This is the AG that has the temerity to charge a bunch of Indians throwing stones at helmeted FRU personel with attempted murder.” Godfather

    Clearly a case of prosecutorial misconduct and his license should be withdrawn. Those falsely accused should commence legal proceedings against the AG for prosecutorial misconduct and claim damages for false imprisonment among others and the anguish they have had to go through. It is unlikely to succeed though.

    We have a case recently over here where the DA lost his license and made to pay damages to the victims of prosecutorial misconduct.. Over here the office of the DA is an elected one, and often times these prosecutors feel the need to show results or lose the election. The office of the AG in our case is not an elected one

  32. #32 by limkamput on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 12:17 pm

    Latest news from Parliament:

    Sdr Lim Kit Siang has been given leave to adjourn the House under Standing Order 18 (1) to discuss Raja Petra Kamarudin’s SD that Najib Razak’s wife Rosmah Mansor and 2 others witnessed Mongolian model Altantuya Shaariibuu being blown up.

    What is happening to our country? So many unprecedented things are now happening? What are likely to happen next? Who really is taking care of rakyat welfare now – high inflation, job uncertainties, food shortage etc. I hope smart lawyers and wannabes out there are able to provide some insights. Nincompoop really don’t know what to say anymore.

  33. #33 by limkamput on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 12:32 pm

    Latest news from Parliament:

    Sdr Lim has been given leave to adjourn the House under Standing Order 18 (1) to discuss RPK’s SD that a vip and 2 others witnessed Mongolian model Altantuya Shaariibuu being blown up.

    What is happening to our country? So many unprecedented things are now happening? What are likely to happen next? Who really is taking care of rakyat welfare now – high inflation, job uncertainties, food shortage etc. I hope smart lawyers and wannabes out there are able to provide some insights. Nincompoop really don’t know what to say anymore

  34. #34 by cheng on soo on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 12:38 pm

    is this AG also the leader for the Pulau Batu Putih case? in some east asia countries, he would hv resigned or be sacked

  35. #35 by undergrad2 on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 12:41 pm

    RPK must have sought and obtained legal advice before making those allegations. He is apparently staring at criminal defamation in the face!

    Criminal defamation is provided for under S. 499 of the Penal Code. The penalty for offenders found liable for criminal defamation is a fine, imprisonment of up to two years, or both.

  36. #36 by Jeffrey on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:09 pm

    Latest news from Parliament – by LimKamPut: “Sdr Lim has been given leave to adjourn the House under Standing Order 18 (1) to discuss RPK’s SD that a vip and 2 others witnessed Mongolian model Altantuya Shaariibuu being blown up”.

    Where do you get that – is it true?

    If so, in extraordinary times, one should take the gamble, stand in face of and “piss” at the wind!

    The key is the Speaker – where he stands, which is something worth the gamble. :)

  37. #37 by oknyua on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:09 pm

    I have this premonition that this “reliable” source is someone very close to one of the three accused. That person is someone who knows the details and the law. Probably this person and RPK had some sorts of written agreement hidden somewhere. This person must have briefed RPK before making the SD. I cannot magine RPK acting alone, though he is capable of doing that.

    Just sit tight.

  38. #38 by Jeffrey on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:17 pm

    YB Kit leverage on this : (1) RPK sources are from disaffected BN quarters/trojan horses with hidden agenda of which you could tap to get the emergency motion on RPK’s SD heard – and may be even carried depending how motion is worded (2) counter action to enforce party “whip” to garner BN’s majority to stop the motion can be neutralised by arguments of conflicts of interest.

  39. #39 by Tickler on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:22 pm

    In the US the DA goes to jail:

    On January 12, 2007, Michael Nifong asked to be taken off the case and on January 13, 2007, Attorney General Roy Cooper’s office took over. On April 12, 2007, the attorney general, in declaring Evans, Finnerty, and Seligmann innocent, also called Michael Nifong a “rogue prosecutor.”[83][84][85] Nifong was ordered disbarred on June 16, 2007 after the bar’s three-member disciplinary panel unanimously found him guilty of fraud, dishonesty, deceit or misrepresentation; of making false statements of material fact before a judge; of making false statements of material fact before bar investigators, and of lying about withholding exculpatory DNA evidence.[86][87]

    On August 31, 2007, Nifong was convicted of criminal contempt for knowingly making false statements during the criminal proceedings. Superior Court Judge W. Osmond Smith III sentenced Nifong to a single day in jail.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Duke_University_lacrosse_team_scandal

  40. #40 by Jeffrey on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:23 pm

    Malaysiakini : “Veteran DAP leader and Ipoh Timur MP Lim Kit Siang submitted an emergency motion to the Speaker on blogger Raja Petra Raja Kamaruddin’s latest allegations concerning the Altantunya Shaariibuu murder”. [Full report to follow]. Keep your fingers crossed!

  41. #41 by Godfather on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:25 pm

    “Given leave” to submit the motion doesn’t mean that the motion will be accepted by the Speaker.

  42. #42 by Jeffrey on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:29 pm

    I don’t think I need to explain further the ordinary grammatical meaning of what Lim Kam Put said, which was “given leave (ie permission”) to adjourn the House under Standing Order 18 (1) to discuss RPK’s SD”.

  43. #43 by Jeffrey on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:35 pm

    And the “leave” was presumably given by the Speaker of Parliament!

  44. #44 by limkamput on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:39 pm

  45. #45 by limkamput on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:41 pm

    i think given leave means allowed to debate on. The motion must satisfy three conditions, urgency, specific and of public interest. But what happen after the debate, i am not too sure, anybody care to advise.

  46. #46 by Godfather on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:45 pm

    My worry is that LKS has been given leave to move the motion, which then has to be ruled upon for urgency or of public interest. It’s like giving everyone a peep in typical peep-show, only to have the curtains drawn tightly shut when the real action begins.

  47. #47 by limkamput on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 1:56 pm

    I understand, Godfather. But the language of themalaysianinsider.com has changed since the last time I checked. Originally it was as I have quoted. But now it is slightly different. I only change the specific name to “vip” in my original posting because the moderator did not allow that name. I think themalaysianinsider.com misreported. I agree with you, it is not so easy to get the speaker’s approval for the debate under 18(1). Please don’t quarrel with Jeffrey again ok.

  48. #48 by Godfather on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 2:11 pm

    No quarrel can be greater than my quarrel with BN. It’s just that I am not a lawyer, and I don’t understand what Standing Order 18(1) is all about.

  49. #49 by lakilompat on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 2:34 pm

    To all dear Malaysian,

    The Mongolian cases are not ordinary cases, as it involved C4 which only the minister of defence can dispense & highly trained soldiers knew how to implode it.

    Seriously i don’t believe Najis has nothing to do with Atlantuya, who is the father of Atlantuya yet to be born child.

    Scared the DNA test? horny najis.

  50. #50 by mobileworld on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 2:55 pm

    Aha…a motion in Parliament to debate this…interesting, make sure it does not fizzle out like the JJ… GRO hugging affair!

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