There is growing intolerance and increasing extremism in Malaysia which are inimical to successful nation building and the latest instance is the demand for the removal of the Christian cross and the demolition of Christian statues in mission schools.
I raised this issue in Parliament this morning during the winding-up of the Education Ministry in the 2008 Budget committee stage debate by the Deputy Education Minister, Datuk Noh Omar and expressed my concern why the Education Minister, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein had not said anything to dissociate the government from such extremist demands.
During the policy debate on the 2008 Budget on Oct. 29, 2007 the Barisan Nasional Member of Parliament for Parit Sulong, Syed Hood bin Syed Edros, supported by the BN MP for Sri Gading, Datuk Haji Mohamad bin Haji Aziz called for the removal of the Christian cross and the demolition of Christian statues in the mission schools.
The loyalty of mission schools was questioned, with the baseless allegation that they refuse to observe Aidilfitri public holiday and close the schools. There was even the preposterous accusation that the mission schools were administered by churches outside the country, including the Vatican.
I asked Noh Omar whether he is aware that the extremist demands by the two BN MPs have created a furore, particularly on the Internet, and why the Education Ministry was condoning such extremism by its silence when such statement should be denounced without equivocation.
I also reminded the Deputy Education Minister that it is wrong and mischievous to assume that Muslims studying in mission schools are potential apostates, when mission schools had made great contributions in nation-building and produced many Malay leaders, including Deputy Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Najib Razak, the Education Minister himself, the Perak Raja Muda Raja Nazrain Shah and the Sultan of Selangor who had been products of mission schools.
There was no satisfactory reply from Noh Omar.
#1 by cancan on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 12:02 am
Please compile the action of these Umnoputra extremists and show it to the world.
Hindraf has laid the groundwork to the world of apartheid in Malaysia.
We must follow-up.
If Umnoputras do not give a damn to the other races,then it is up to all of us to displace them.
#2 by Rocky on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 12:27 am
these guys have run out of ideas and are clearly stupid. using baseless arguments. why are they not hauled by the BN whip????
if you really don’t like it, don’t send your kids there. These guys are not keen on quality of school, they only look at superficial stuff. stupid and HP6
#3 by messy on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 1:30 am
to littlebird…the ministry have actually changed the whole system into their own game…the reason why Plato’s statue is gone because it was taken down by the UMNOs…they have inferiority complex…
once they see other things like cross and who-ever’s statue they’ll try to take it down…
to everyone who still don’t believe that my badge have changed from a cross badge to a non-cross badge you can always check it out at http://www.mbsskl.edu.my/…there was a cross on the badge but now????but it’s ok…we know that UMNO have this tendency to do-something out of the blue to cost some troubles to the people…
to me it is really a childish thing to change this change that…they’re actually wanting to show the public that theyr’e “working”
#4 by siudidi on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 1:49 am
Such is called ISLAMIZATION…
#5 by legallybotak on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 2:06 am
UMNO will always use the “non†as their boogey man.
• To gain some votes, Dr.M, our PM accused Tengku Li to be an apostate bcos he was wearing a headgear with a cross like design while campaigning in East Malaysia.
• Century year old tomb stones at Loke Yew Christian Cemetery were vandalized
• Now, two UMNO MPs in parliamentary session demand the removal of the Christian cross and the demolition of Christian statues in mission schools
The sad thing about such incidents is that thru’ “ Pemimpinan melalui teladan†others will follow and if we elect to sacrifice a little liberty in exchange for a little security,at the end we get neither.
In my blog, anotheracutebraindead.blogspot.com
I retold the boiling frog story – a frog dropped into boiling water has sense to leap out, but the frog dropped into cold water can be cooked to death before he realizes he is in serious trouble.
We keep giving and they keep taking and soon it becomes so normal so easily and quickly that we do not even feel it and then there is nothing to give!
#6 by peterlsc on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 2:31 am
if ask to remove then remove it lor, what’s the big fuss, after all we the non-malays, non muslim, better follow, if not nanti susah lor. HiStory has told us not to mess with ‘them’
#7 by KS R on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 3:12 am
They are in power they can do what ever they like is it. Indians / Chinese / even civilized Malay should support the opposition change Goverment example AUSTRALIA
#8 by harrisonbinhansome on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 3:23 am
Foremostly, I personally thank YB Lim for your intepridities in speaking out against disparaging onslaught on the Christian creed. Every pre-dawn I was woken up by Muslim prayers aided by the loud-hailers and massive loud-speakers from a nearby mosque and I have not heard anyone complaint to their MPs yet.
Both ‘superfascist’ MP’s who raises such childish demands for the removal of the Christian cross and the demolition of Christian statues in mission schools reflects religious zealots are at loose again as my personal observation of the ruthless UMNO MPs
at work in Parliment are pre-meditated and sanctioned by the top echelons wherein I conclude:-
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CON GAME AND HOW IT IS PLAYED
Almost everytime a serious issues are raised such as the leaking of the roof of the Parliament by MP Fong, an UMNO MP/s readily stonewalls by making mockering remarks on the subjects and another few MPs jumps in thier supports to divert the attention causing discords thus prompted the SPEAKER to intefere in quasi favor of the BN felons. What we see in the Parliament is a masquarade by the BN felons. If this is the Academy Awards, they could easily won few Oscars at hand. This is the reason that the minority opposition MPs are ‘defeated’ by the pre-meditated powerplay every now and then.
And speaking about the call by the Islamic zealots to dismantle any
emblems of other creed, does any Christians MP stand up to protest? What honour do they have by walking onto the Church and prays professing thier faith? When these two persecuters MPs spoke explicitly, why is that YB Lim is the only MP who stood up
for Christianity? Why wasn’t any pastors, priests or clergymen take cautionery steps to rubuke the Islamic zealotry?
Every now and then, being a Christian myself, you could get all sorts of donations and assistance from most Christians, but whenever political sanctioned persecutions such as Christian genocidal occurs in East Timor and around the world, most Malaysian christians stays reticent and cower as a rat. For all the Christians MPs who are muted by the arrogances of Muslim extremists, they not only fail to speak up for their subordinates but they fail GOD whom they professed.
Thereupon for all the Christians MPs who are still publicly silent, I strongly urged all of yous to renounce the faith in shame and shame on them! Let’s vote them off to the stone age!
#9 by kanthanboy on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 3:39 am
These are the items on the agenda of the next cabinet meeting:
1)To instruct all the mainstream media to inform voters not to put a cross next to the name of any BN candidate.
2)To remove all the traffic signs showing cross roads ahead.
3)To remove all traffic warning signs before railway crossings.
#10 by waterman on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 5:53 am
harrisonbinhansome Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 03: 23.59
…Why wasn’t any pastors, priests or clergymen take cautionery steps to rubuke the Islamic zealotry?
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As I have said earlier it was the Christian missionaries that came and started schools & hospitals making them available to the general public from all the races in this land back in the 19th century. It is regrettable indeed some people are just too shallow to be able to feel grateful for it.
Don’t lose your sleep over them lest you become just as shallow. It is the duty of all MPs to caution these 2 ungrateful sons and I would prefer none Christian MPs to take up the case before some “well meaning” people turn it into a religious fight inside the Parliament.
I just read these portion of scriptures this morning and I hope we can all be encouraged:- (New King James Version)
a) Love Your Enemies
Matthew 5:43-48
43 Jesus said “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
b) Behave Like a Christian
Romans 12: 9 -21
9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good.
10 Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another;
11 not lagging in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord; 12 rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly in prayer;
13 distributing to the needs of the saints, given to hospitality.
14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep.
16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men.
18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men.
19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,†says the Lord.
20 Therefore
“ If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.â€Â
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
I am absolutely certained that God will do the vengeance,if any,without needing any of our help. We don’t need another “Crusaders”.
We are to love God and to love men, men of all color, race & religion. (Jesus said these 2 are the greatest commandments)
Muslims need lots of love!
#11 by lakshy on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 6:47 am
Many malays send their children to Convent schools because of better education standard and english standards. There are other schools they can go to if they are so intolerant. Nobody tied their limbs and forced them to register their kids here right?
IN JB, HIJ Convent is amongst the most cherished schools. HIJ of course stands for Holy Infant Jesus. Next they will ask to change the name too! Whatla pm with the big ears…………..open your trap and talk like a leader of all Malaysians.
The cross is symbolic…..some say it is crossing out of the I (ego). That is a good symbol if you ask me.
If you are against symbols, then why do the rituals at Mekah? Aren’t they also symbolic? The Haj is also symbolic isn’t it? Doesn’t the Kaaba contain symbols? What lah these bangang punya berok. Dont they realise that the world is watching and theya re making fools of themselves and making the nation look stupid?
#12 by lakshy on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 6:49 am
Come to think of it, these are the panyangak….including Nazri of course.
#13 by DarkHorse on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 7:06 am
“Many malays send their children to Convent schools…”
The boys too???
As for the cross, others see a crucifix each time they look at the cross. Others look at a cross and see a cross. If we see a crucifix when we look at a cross, then mathematics and algebra will have to be excluded from the school syllabus – a new first for UMNO!
#14 by Bigjoe on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 8:49 am
The fact of the matter is that UMNO would not survive until today and will not last for long without the right-wing of the party. Its a big group but more importantly, they are a more politically active group. They know it and so does the likes of Najib, Hissamuddin and KJ. The problem is the middle and left wing of UMNO are an incoherent and apathetic often over-idealistic lot.
Other countries have counters to such groups such as strong leadership or a strong capitalistic culture. Malay don’t have that traditionally and even today, their wealthy are mainly state power brokers not real capitalist capable of harnessing power of the masses against such extremism.
Its why during the founding of our country, the fight over the issue of secularity was very important and clearly stated in the Reid commission. It was known even than that only a secular constitution was going to prevent religious extremism. But when it comes to the final drafting of the constitution Tunku made the point that without the word Islam and inclusion of the word secular would have made it unacceptable to right wing and even the Sultans who derived powers from their role in state and religion.
Hence it was purposely crafted that the constitution should all the features of secularity such as guarantees of equal rights and freedom of religion, which as actually alien to Islamist back then.
When Tunku realized that the Islamic group could gain ascendency, he repeatedly warn against setting up an Islamic state, a fact Malay leaders don’t like to talk about.
Dr. M is of course largely responsible for this because the political opportunist in him knew the power of tapping religion. Lets face it. Dr. M is no great intellect. He was talented as a opportunist and the problem began when he tapped that opportunistic talent and mediocre intellect into something as dangerous as religion. He figured if he screw up, we have to fix it for him like privatization, mega projects and all the corruption and scandals. Most people forget that Dr. M is also largely responsible for UMNO’s money politic culture despite him saying he is against it.
So yes, extreme Islamization is a leftover of Dr. M and the ultras in UMNO. But worst, we have lost what little we have to fight it. All we can hope for is really globalization and technology because frankly we are incapable of doing it ourselves.
#15 by sotong on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 9:34 am
One must not underestimate the enormous damage of decades of bad leadership, role models and damaging politics of race and religion had on our country and her ordinary people.
There is no quick fix.
#16 by smeagroo on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 9:42 am
Obviously these 2 morons werent the product of any missionary schools.
#17 by Jimm on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 9:51 am
right after may 13th, umno learn about their weaknesses and also influent the Royal constitution to take desirable measure to prevent their future might be taken over. there was a ‘tainted’ story about past and future delivered for Royal consent.
then, the beginning of influxs of new brotherhood from neighboring countries to make up numbers.
soon, there are master plan to enriched all the Royal families through revolution changes.
one thing to another, Malaysia have evolved to what she is today.
and along these success stories, we have ‘sold’ away many Malaysian dreams to keep those scandal stories going.
as mentioned, it’s the Royal decision and they have to wake up to this call. their lands and people are crying.
wealth can be a great feeling , however, lands and people are the most valuable asset that Royal families must realised to grow.
religion were put to the test by government to keep unity away from Malaysian.
sad case ..
#18 by boh-liao on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 10:05 am
No wonder the number of our road accidents is so high and no wonder there are so many students who cannot add – they don’t see ‘+’ (not in their vocabulary or list of of symbols) or ‘+’ is haram to them.
As LittleBird wrote, Malaysia has to replace ‘+’ with ‘(‘ to be religiously correct. Yeah, go global and glocal!
#19 by sotong on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 10:19 am
We have gone backward in many things….from the oil revenue and tax pay money we are able to distribute wealth to make a few happy, now greedy.
If after 50 years, you have failed to build on the hard work and scarify of past generations’ great achievements and strenghtened the essential fundamentals of successful nation building, how is the country going to move forward and compete with other countries??
#20 by cheng on soo on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 10:20 am
kuwait used to buy bibles to burn, then it needs usa to save it from iraq, afghan.taliban destroyed buddha statue, then it had to loose power on afghan. n hide in mountains away from american.
#21 by Earshot on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 10:32 am
I have not been to Malaysia for yonks let alone at the time of year leading up to Christmas.
I wonder if Christmas carols are still being aired in shopping complexes like they used to do way back then or is this now clamped down like more and more liberties are being subject to these days?
#22 by badak on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 10:33 am
UMNO led goverment will destroy Malaysia,They are not bothered about anything else but protecting Malay rights and the Muslim religion,to the extent that they are making every one else look small.It is not wrong to protect ones religion ,but it is wrong to belittle another religion
Don,t do on to others ,what you don,t want others to do on to you.If we can all follow this saying…Malaysia will be a beautiful place to be in.
#23 by izrafeil on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 10:34 am
Re some of the comments above; I beg to differ, as a Malay and I can say that the Malay majority has no ill feelings whatsoever to the other races. Let me reassure these committments.
#24 by madmix on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 10:47 am
Yes I agree, remove all crosses from this Islamic nation.
1. the Plus sign + must be changed to a crescent : 1 C 1 = 2
2. the X and multiplication sign should be replaced.
3. the # symbol should be banned.
4. there should be no “cross” roads.
5. Ballot papers should be marked with tick and not crossed.
6. All TV and movies images of crosses should be blurred out.
#25 by sotong on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 10:54 am
I totally agree with izrafeil.
Majority of Malays has no ill feelings and hatred toward other races and religions.
Like the religious violence and conflict in the Middle East, it is the politicians that cause the problems and their people to suffer.
#26 by Jimm on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 11:39 am
Real Malaysian have no fear living in this country …
All fears have been carefully ‘planted’ by UMNO to blurred out national unity and also keep out any potential harm to their plan.
We were make running on the treadmill for years to keep gaming our Malaysian dream to come true.
Sad ?
It’s political world …..
It’s all about greed …
#27 by hutchrun on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 11:47 am
madmix:
The letter `t` should also be banned.
#28 by hutchrun on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 11:50 am
And the `sari` and indian movies should be banned also:
Most men would simply suffer in silence, but not Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat, the one man in Malaysia with the guts to speak the truth to power,
http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/11/muslim_cleric_sexy_clothing_is.php
#29 by mendela on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 12:06 pm
Most Muslims in Malaysia are peaceful people.
The only trouble is they don’t speak up against the religious fanatics!
There may be a hundread fanatics here, but the majority peace loving Muslims are not saying NO to them!
#30 by AntiRacialDiscrimination on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 12:21 pm
I knew in advance that the government doesn’t like the cross. That’s why I always put the cross beside the DAP candidates during general election. I hope everyone will do the same.
#31 by k1980 on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 12:27 pm
Will all the crosses on the graves in Christian cemetries be removed and replaced with the crescent or other symbols? E.g. symbols such as ^, &, $, @, , ~, {%}, [=], [()] ?
Looks like the Pope will have to remove the cross from his headgear too and replace it with the hammer and sickle…
#32 by hutchrun on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 12:42 pm
“The dhimmi stands with his head bowed and his back bent. The jizya is placed in the balance and the taker seizes his beard and hits his chin.â€Â
#33 by smeagroo on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 12:53 pm
This is probably a ploy by UmmmmNoo to incite hatred and when ppl retaliate they can in return send out a stronger message and beg their fellow ppl to stand united. Hey, when they are desperate for votes with GE looming, they will do whatever is deemed necessary to stay in power.
#34 by ajax on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 1:51 pm
Now what..do the UMNOPUTRAS want CHRISRAF (CHRISTIAN RELIGION ACTION FORCE) By the rate they are inciting extremism I would not be surprised that each religion would start an action force against these racist UMNO. UMNO.. Stop this immediately pls..You are tearing down Malaysia & risk casting her into a state of irreparable civil oblivion.
#35 by rajanjohn on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 1:58 pm
M’sian MATHS not + 1 oh…bcoz that resembles CROSS..so no Plus!
Malaysia boleh..n please do not use small cap t in your A-Z!
#36 by boh-liao on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 2:24 pm
Next, all bakeries, beware, no hot cross buns. Hot crescent buns, yes.
No ‘Cross My Heart’ song, novel, etc. – Have to change to ‘Crescent My Heart’.
Santa Claus must dress in green, not red.
AAB told TIME recently, “We are not a secular state, but neither are we a theocracy.” Ho, ho, ho ……….
#37 by wits0 on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 6:42 pm
Some people shouldn’t live and work in structures constructed from reinforced concrete within which is found those criss-crossing mesh steel frames.
All road system must never criss-cross anywhere!
Most certainly they should also not wear any clothes made from criss-crossing fabrics!
What utter hypocrisy and absolute irony behind those asinine dogmatic attitude masquerading as holiness!
#38 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 9:17 pm
I grieve for the pathetic and insensitivity of the Minister & Deputy Minister of Education. Instead of being grateful for the rich Christian heritage and seminal contributions of Mission schools to the growth and development of education in Malaysia, the Malaysian government has systematically ‘destroyed’ the rich legacies and traditions in educational excellence that have been achieved on the blood, sweat, toil and tears of the founding Christian brothers and sisters. To be sure, no words can adequately express my grief and shock!
#39 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Tuesday, 4 December 2007 - 9:34 pm
As for Mohd Aziz of Sri Gading – an established clown of ill-repute and trivial accomplishments in the malaysian Parliament, the first thought that crossed my mind when I read of his antics again is simply this – whilst outgoing MPs like Dr Toh Kin Woon seek to fortify their records and legacy in and outside Parliament on the eve of their retirement with honest candour and pragmatic wisdom for the national good, we still have flamboyantly ugly displays by other MPs who have long outlived their usefulness like Mohd Aziz, Bung of Kinabatangan (who is so ugly, I keep forgetting his full name even after all his public display of buffoonery!), Said of jasin etc. These MPs rudely seek the media attention with flagrant and vulgar topics that if not for their sensationalism would be best consigned to the garbage bins of inanities.
Now what is Mohd Aziz trying to prove? This man who is as immoral as any that had hogged Malaysian political space, now speaks pretentiously as if he is a nationalist with respectable credentials. But if you know this man as well as I do, you would walk away without a whit of doubt that the only gift God has given him is a BIG MOUTH. What God gave him like all others too is a brain as well but which alas and alack has been so despoiled by parochialism, narcissism and moral corruption, it is a waste of my time to engage him in any meaningful exchange or grant him the respect of more words than is necessary.
Of course, you may disagree. But then you have not met this man!
#40 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 5 December 2007 - 4:09 am
“AAB told TIME recently, “We are not a secular state, but neither are we a theocracy.†Ho, ho, ho ……….”
In the U.S. today Santa is not allowed to say, “Ho..ho..ho!” because some might translate to mean “Hoe…hoe..hoe”.
#41 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 5 December 2007 - 4:13 am
In case some among our young translate that to Bahasa and think we are talking ‘cangkul’, may I take this opportunity to remind them that the English language like all languages have a life of their own.
#42 by lokety on Wednesday, 5 December 2007 - 11:36 am
supreme_evil_chick said she might be worried that the ISA may come down on her for posting what she wrote, but I’d say they should pay the two UMNO fellas a visit.
And if the Government decides to implement what these two bozos suggested, don’t stop there:
1. Ban and confiscate Buddhists from burning joss sticks
2. Fine Hindus for putting up flame lights and littering all over with rangoli
Malaysia Bohleh
#43 by jasonlam25 on Friday, 7 December 2007 - 1:18 am
what kind of stupid , barbaric and uncivilised MPs they are??
how about the feeling of non-Muslim students when we entering into Local University, need to study and memorise the whole Tamadun Islam text?????then i am sure the MPs of Sri gading and Parity sulong will say bagus..kamu akan mengenali Islam lebih dekat..
we even neither force Muslims nor ask them to study in mission school….
if so hard, then dont send their children to our Mission Schools…
come on la…
in Mission Schools, we were educated to be a good citizen and loyal to our country.
leave us alone..
if like that again….they will pay for what they say!!
#44 by hp6 on Saturday, 8 December 2007 - 5:17 pm
getting sick reading all this blogs.what is our sleeping bodowi doing with his big ears listening to all those hp6 minister n stupid mps talking rubbish n been racist..my advice to MIC N Fellow Mandos can U KEEP YOUR BIG mouth shut u guys are good 4 nutting.dont fool the indians anymore.we are malaysian n its for all races n whatever religion to be happy n enjoy the fruits our great n grand fathers planted for us.not just for 1 or elite to enjoy.plz wake up bodowi the nations is awake to see u talk n think out of the box.do the walk n not just talk.its been 4 years now??????how long do u need
#45 by buntal on Monday, 17 December 2007 - 6:13 pm
Nowadays, we see more Muslim children studying at mission schools than the Christians. Why Muslim parents not sending their children to sekolah agama??? Why Muslim parents complain when the non-Muslim children bring pork to school? After all, it’s mission school.
Why the DPM went to the mission school eventhough there were at that time also sekolah pondok that taught about their so-called “true” religion? Why they went overseas to further their studies and not to other Islamic countries?
#46 by buntal on Monday, 17 December 2007 - 6:34 pm
Local uni non-Muslim students study Tamadan Islam with the objective according to the government that they will know or perhaps understand their Muslim friends better when they mix with them whether at work or in any situation BUT why don’t the Muslim students study about other faiths too so that they will stop criticising other faiths and live in harmony?
Don’t try to play GOD because we are not GOD unless you can create the air, the sea even the Heaven!