Nobody says police are not justified in solving crime. To be sure no one is saying here that police’s resources are fully utilised to combat crime or are even efficient, but for a reason to be given to justify why IGP contract should not be renewed (because the buck stops there) it better be specific reasons cited: for examples, persecution/bias against Opposition by various investigations; or even controversy generated by Anwar’s allegations that he has evidence of previous conspiracy by Gani and Musa against him to back his claims that the current sodomy charge against him is politically motivated – provided Anwar’s allegations are vindicated and evidence accepted conclusive; or maybe police brutality from deaths of A Kugan.

If the main objection is rising crime – and crime is caused by myriad of macro factors beyond police’s control that the most efficient of IGP even best of IGP – might not make a dent to stem the rising crime, then how to connect IGP/Police to this phenomenon?

We know an efficient police force – which is IGP’s task to ensure – ought to help but we’re not given facts/figures backed by research here to say how much of this increase in crime wave/tide is attributable to an inefficient/corrupt police force for which IGP as responsible head is directy blameworthy and how much is due to other unavoidable macro factors and root causes that even an efficient and uncorrupt force could do little to stem/curb.

As usual Lim Kam Put would shoot through the mouth whatever occur to him – at that moment – without filtering through the brain. We are used to it. :)

There are studies on the rising crime problem with facts and figure in Malaysian context. Perhaps you want to read up on these. Take for example the dislocation of indian plantation workers/rural urban drift or the kind of exploitation of foreign workers, inequitable distribution of income due to govt policies etc you’d find that yes police’s inefficiency/corruption has a contributory part to play but so are so many other sectors/tiers of people and even govt policies that one finds it hard to ascertain whether the police laches are only 10% or 90% bearing on this phenomenon…..If you want to nail anyone holding top position one has to be very careful and specific and connect something that is wholly attributable to him or his underlings, and not something general that may be attributable to elsewhere and other factors where one is left speculating who is proportionately the major culprit. Only facts and figures from various studies could (at least) be raised to argue the case or if not a very specific event or wrong doing attributable only if not mainly to the police force for which the buck stops at IGP. Then you’re getting somewhere.

sorry out of topic, I have just met some Malaysians coming back from Papua New Guinea – now that place, with its poverty, poor healthcare and rampant gang culture – must surely rank one of the highest crime places on this planet. Sacked how many police, also no result. Better off people live 24 hour controlled access gate, high “electrified” fences, when they come out they bring about 100 kina (RM200) to pay whenever robbed by knife or gun wielding thugs. It seems a form of culture there (unofficial re-distribution of wealth if you will), you just give them your money, they will not harm you and some would even say “thank you”. It is like an accepted culture there to be robbed and to re-distribute wealth! By comparison makes here looks like a heaven of security. I don’t know how this is, there are, it seems, two Malaysian sisters operating food eateries there (for some time) with the spate of rapes and robberies happening regularly there.

Then there is (believe it or not) this “culture” in theTrobriand Islands (today officially known as the Kiriwina Islands, unofficially “Islands of Love”) 170 mi² archipelago of coral atolls off the eastern coast of Papua New Guinea : for instance an annual harvest festival on one of these islands where women to go out and rape strange men. Some men complain that gangs of women who stopped them, behaved roughly and taunted at their private parts. Sometimes they get raped. To avoid such unwanted sexual encounters they take roundabout routes home from their place of work/ fields.

Too bad or maybe good visitors like us, alas, are too strange looking/smelling to them to be targeted. :)