Perak State Assembly under a rain-tree – history made today

History has just been made in Perak with the Perak State Assembly convened and held under a rain-tree.

Twenty-one years ago, the doctrine of separation of powers among the Executive, Judiciary and the Legislature suffered a grievous blow in the “Mother of Judicial Crisis” on 1988, from which Malaysia has not yet fully recovered.

Today, the doctrine of separation of powers has suffered another grievous blow with the powers and privileges of the legislature in Perak, attacked by the executive, both federal and state, which is also seeking to invoke unprecedented judicial interference with the legislature.

The Perak Speaker, V. Sivakumar, the legitimate Perak Mentri Besar, Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin, the legitimate senior Exco Datuk Ngeh Koo Ham, and all the Pakatan Rakyat Assembly men and women have done Perak and Malaysia proud.

They have written a glorious chapter in the history of democracy in Perak and Malaysia.

Despite the show of excessive and unnecessary force by the Police and FRU, the Pakatan Rakyat Assembly representatives were undaunted and were able to conduct its short but historic proceeding under a rain-tree.

Shame to the Barisan Nasional and UMNO leaders. They are afraid of the Perak State Assembly meeting. They are also afraid of returning the mandate to the people with the holding of state general elections.

There is no stronger proof of the illegitimacy of Zambry as Perak Mentri Besar as a result of the illegal and unconstitutional power grab in Perak orchestrated by Najib Razak.

Under-tree Assembly
The Malaysian Insider

IPOH, March 3 – 10.35am The Perak State Assembly, convened under the shade of a rain tree, has been adjourned.

10.28am The state assembly has passed a vote of confidence in Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin as mentri besar of Perak. The assembly has also passed another vote calling on Nizar to seek a dissolution of the legislature and pave the way for fresh elections

Meanwhile, Judicial Commissioner Ridwan Ibrahim has ruled that five lwayers, including constitutional expert Tommy Thomas, have no locus standi to represent the Perak Speaker in court.
He says the Speaker must be represented by the state legal advisor because he is part of the state government

10.20am Perak V Sivakumar has put on his robes by the roadside near the state secretriat and appears to be preparing to convene assembly right there under the shade of a rain tree. They are now tabling the first motion.

Meanwhile, across town, lawyers fro BN are attempting to stay the proceedings of the state assembly until a suit on the suspension of BN exco members is heard later today.

9.58am Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen have decided to leave the scene to avert violence. They will hold a press conference shortly where they are likely to announce new venue for assembly sitting.

9.52am Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen are now standing toe-to-toe with riot police at the entrance, while supporters have linked hands behind the lawmakers.
At the side two trucks with water cannons are poised for action

9.44am Nizar and Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen are now being stopped by police from entering the building. Police apparently allow Speaker V. Sivakumar apparently to enter.

9.40am A scuffle has broken out between five men and Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen trying to enter the state secretariat compound.

The five men claim to be independent and are trying to push Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin and Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen away from the entrance.

9am More than 100 people now have gathered at the Perak state secretariat, which is cordoned off by a similar number of riot police with shields.

8.45am Lawyers representing Barisan Nasional and Pakatan Rakyat are gathering at the Ipoh High Court where a series of lawsuits have been filed against the Perak Speaker.

Emergency assembly convened in car park
Malaysiakini | Mar 3, 09

At an emergency assembly meeting held under a tree in a car park next to the state secretariat, the Pakatan representatives passed motions to support Nizar as the menteri besar as well as to dissolve the state assembly.

Meanwhile at the Ipoh High Court, a new twist developed when judge Ridwan Ibrahim told Speaker Sivakumar’s lawyers that they had no legal standing to represent the speaker, who should be represented by the state legal advisor.

See below as developments unfolded.


10.57am: Nizar also urged the people to stay calm and follow the law. He urged them not to emulate the troublemakers who had tried to stop him and the other representatives from entering the state secretariat earlier today.

10.53am: Ngeh also said that Speaker Sivakumar will initiate contempt proceedings against the police and the state secretary.

10.50am: State DAP chief and senior exco member under the Pakatan government Ngeh Koo Ham: “It is a very sad day. We have descended into a police state.”

10.49am: Nizar says that he will try to get an audience with the Sultan of Perak to inform him the decision of the House. He insisted that the sitting was held in accordance with the rules and regulations.

10.46am: Nizar at the press conference: “We held sitting under a tree based on the doctrine of necessity because we were prevented from entering the assembly but we had to fulfil our duties based on the notice issued by the speaker”.

10.35am: A new twist at the Ipoh High Court. Speaker Sivakumar’s lawyer Tommy Thomas held a press conference to say that the judge had ruled that private lawyers have no legal standing to represent the speaker.

Thomas said that according to judge Ridwan Ibrahim only the state legal advisor can act for the speaker since he (the speaker) is part of the state government.

With this ruling, Thomas and the other lawyers withdrew themselves from representing Sivakumar. Thomas said that they would be taking instructions from Sivakumar on the next course of action.

Thomas also said that their arguments that it would be a conflict for the state advisor to represent the speaker was dismissed by the judge.

He also said that the judge dismissed their application to conduct watching brief with the right to submit on behalf of the speaker.

The issue of legal standing was raised by Zambry’s lawyers.

10.31am: Sivakumar is now heading towards the DAP headquarters nearby where he will be holding a press conference to explain the next course of action. Nizar is also expected to hold a press conference there. The DAP HQ is located right opposite the state secretariat’s rear entrance.

10.30am: The speaker has adjourned the historic assembly meeting. Sivakumar will now have to present the motions to the Sultan of Perak for further action.

10.25am: The second motion to dissolve the state assembly was also mooted, debated and passed unanimously.

The emergency sitting under the tree also passed a third motion – to adopt the decision of the rights and privileges committee headed by Sivakumar to suspend Zambry and his six exco members.

10.23am: The first motion was passed unanimously. Every present Pakatan representative shouted ‘setuju’ (agree) when a vote was taken on the motion.

10.20am: The first motion to express confidence on Nizar as the menteri besar is being tabled now.

10.18am: Sivakumar is in his full speaker’s robe to chair the meeting. It is held in a very formal manner. He told the viewing crowd not to clap or cheer and to respect the meeting.

10.15am: The meeting starts with a prayer session, It is held under a tree, without any chairs for the state representatives and the speaker to sit.

10.13am: Speaker Sivakumar has decided to hold the emergency meeting right at the car park. All Pakatan representatives are present. Some 300 people are watching this historic proceeding.

10.08am: Speaker Sivakumar and Nizar are also seen with the other state representatives at the car park. The impromptu meeting is still proceeding there.

10.05am: Meanwhile at the Ipoh High Court, lawyers from both sides are learnt to have been in the judge’s chambers for the past 30 minutes.

10.01am: The Nizar entourage has stopped at the car park located some 50 metres away from the state secretariat’s main entrance and are huddled in a meeting. Speaker Sivakumar is not in this group.

10am: Nizar and the state representatives are leaving the area. They are headed to the DAP headquarters and will be holding a press conference there.

Some 200 Pakatan supporters are still waiting at the state secretariat entrance.

9.55am: Ipoh police chief Azisman: “I have spoken to both Ngeh and the state secretary (Abdul Rahman Hashim) and the state secretary said no one is allowed to enter the state secretariat”.

9.53am: Senior state exco member under the Pakatan government Ngeh Koo Ham is still trying to negotiate with Ipoh police chief to allow them to enter the state secretariat.

9.50am: Eye-witnesses are saying that the police have asked Speaker Sivakumar alone to enter the state secretariat. This could not be confirmed.

9.49am: The police are ordering the crowd to disperse. The crowd is shouting ‘Hidup Rakyat!’.

9.45am: Ipoh OCPD Azisman Alias refuses to negotiate, says no one is allowed to enter. The police are pushing away the Pakatan state representatives away from the main entrance. The situation is very chaotic.

9.40am: Nizar’s people are negotiating with the police now as the FRU are not allowing anyone inside the state secretariat. The crowd now stands at about 200, most of whom are Pakatan supporters. The water cannon in pointed towards the crowd.

9.35am: A group of people numbering about 30 are blocking Nizar and gang from heading towards the main entrance. No police interference. Nizar and group just walked past them to the main entrance.

9.30am: Ousted Menteri Besar Nizar and his state representatives arrive at the state secretariat.

9.25am: A slanging match ensues between BN and Pakatan supporters at the main entrance of the secretariat. The BN supporters showered profanities at the Pakatan lot who had been shouting ‘reformasi!’.

9.21am: The police and FRU trucks are blocking the main entrance to the state secretariat. The Pakatan state representatives are expected to try to get into the building to go to the state assembly through this entrance.

9.20am: The crowd – a good multi-racial one – at the state secretariat has swelled to about 100 now.

9.15am: Pakatan state representatives who had earlier met at a nearby hotel are on their way to the state secretariat.

9.10am: Lawyers from both sides are in the court house.

9am: About 40 FRU personnel in full gear position themselves at the rear entrance of the state secretariat. Some of them are armed with rifles and tear-gas launchers.

8.55am: At the Ipoh High Court – no crowd, no police. Only lawyers for the speaker are present so far. This defence team is led by constitutional expert Tommy Thomas, Chan Kok Leong, Philip Koh Tong Ngee and Augustine Antony. Several other lawyers are expected to join them.

Perak MB Zambry Abd Kadir’s two applications will be heard today. The first is on the Speaker Sivakumar’s use of the undated resignation letters of three BN-friendly independents to vacate their state seats. The second is over the suspensions of Zambry and his six exco members.

The matters will be heard before Judicial Commissioner Ridwan Ibrahim at High Court 4.

Zambry and Co are not expected to be present in court today. Their defence team is led by Mohd Hafarizam Harun with Badrul Hishah Abd Wahab, Faizul Hilmy Ahmad Zamri.

8.50am: About 50 curious onlookers have gathered at the rear entrance of the state secretariat. “No signs of any trouble,” says Malaysiakini journalist Andrew Ong.

8.30am: Roadblocks have been set up since yesterday along the main road leading to the state secretariat. No vehicles are allowed near the building.

More than 100 police personnel are on standby at the state secretariat. Dozens of journalists are also ready for action.

8.15am: The main entrance to the state secretariat building in Ipoh is shut, denying access to anyone wanting to enter the secretariat. A huge police presence is also visible around the state secretariat.

The police have also cordoned off the road at the back of the state secretariat. Federal Reserve Unit trucks and water cannons are on standby as well.

Yesterday state police chief Zulkefli Abdullah had warned people not to gather at the state secretariat.

The Pakatan Rakyat state assemblypersons have planned to gather at the main entrance of the state secretariat at 10am before going into the state assembly located in the secretariat to conduct their emergency meeting.

Meanwhile Menteri Besar Zambry Abdul Kadir’s legal suits against Speaker V Sivakumar is expected to be heard at 9am at the Ipoh High Court.

Perak drama: Emergency sitting at vacant lot ends
The Star | 3rd March 2009

(10:40am) At the High Court, Sivakumar’s lawyers withdraw from the case after Judicial Commissioner Ridwan Ibrahim rules that private lawyers have no locus standi and cannot represent the Speaker.

Ridwan says that under the Government Proceedings Act, the Speaker can only be represented by the state legal advisor, or lawyers appointed by the latter, because he is part of the state government.

Sivakumar’s lead counsel, constitutional expert Tommy Thomas, says they will await further instructions from the Speaker. He said they were refused speaking rights under Ridwan’s ruling.

(10:35am) Nizar proposes that the emergency sitting of the assembly be adjourned. Sivakumar adjourns.

(10:25am) Titi Serong rep Dr Khalil Idham says Nizar is the rightful mentri besar and wants him to continue. Canning assemblyman Wong Kah Woh says that Pakatan has ruled the state well since taking over last March.

Teja rep Chang Lih Kang proposes a motion asking for the dissolution of the state assembly to call for a new election.

Both motions are agreed to by all Pakatan reps.

(10:20am) After “doa selamat” prayers, the meeting commences with the hearing of the first motion from Titi Serong assemblyman Dr Khalil Idham Lim Abdullah.

He says the trust and support have been given to Nizar as mentri besar. Sivakumar asks for the motion to be debated.

(10:15am) Although allowed entry into the state secretariat building, Sivakumar did not go in. Attired in the official garb of the Speaker, he declares a vacant lot about 200m from the building as the venue for the emergency sitting.

(10:05am) Nizar gets into his car. Discussions going on between PAS, PKR and DAP assemblymen and Members of Parliament (MPs) on their next course of action. One MP is in the car with Nizar.

They are expected to head towards the DAP state headquarters where they might hold a press conference.

(10:00am) Pakatan assemblymen and Nizar not allowed into building, but police allow Sivakumar to enter. A policeman says, “YB tidak boleh masuk (Yang Berhormat is not allowed in).”

Pakatan supporters make a protective ring around their assemblymen so that they will not be chased away. Assemblymen start moving away however.

(9:45am) At the High Court, lead counsels for both sides are briefing the judge in chambers. They emerge from chambers at 10:17am to brief their legal teams.

(9:40am) Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen, including former mentri besar Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin, arrive at state secretariat building for emergency sitting of Assembly called by Sivakumar to vote on two motions related to the constitutional crisis in Perak.

Barisan Nasional supporters have lined up to prevent them from entering. Some pushing and shoving going on.

(9:00am) Federal Reserve Unit personnel have been deployed in front of state secretariat building, at least seven trucks being used to block main entrance. Police had already set up roadblocks on roads leading to the building earlier this morning.

A small crowd has gathered, comprising party members, lawyers, supporters and many members of the media.

(8:45am) Lawyers from both sides start arriving at Ipoh High Court in preparation for hearing of lawsuit filed by Perak Mentri Besar Datuk Dr Zambry Abdul Kadir against State Assembly Speaker V. Sivakumar.

Dr Zambry is seeking a court declaration that Sivakumar’s suspension of Dr Zambry and his six excos from the state assembly is unconstitutional.

IPOH: All eyes are on Perak Tuesday as the former Pakatan Rakyat state government, which maintains it is still the legitimate administration, attempts to oust the newly-formed Barisan Nasional government through an emergency sitting of the state assembly.

The emergency sitting was called by State Assembly Speaker V. Sivakumar, saying he was invoking Standing Orders 8 and 11 so that the assembly could vote on two motions.

While he declined to reveal what the motions were, except to say that they involved the constitutional crisis in Perak, former senior executive council (exco) member Datuk Ngeh Koo Ham later said the two motions involved seeking the dissolution of the State Assembly and reaffirming support for Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin as mentri besar.

The current Perak Mentri Besar Datuk Dr Zambry Abdul Kadir of Barisan has described the emergency sitting as “invalid and unlawful” because it had not received the consent of the Sultan of Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah.

“He has used his powers unfairly to achieve his own political agenda and he had ridiculed the proceedings of the House,” he said.

Pakatan lawyers say the Ruler’s consent was only needed to summon a sitting by way of royal proclamation if the assembly had been dissolved or prorogued (adjourned by royal prerogative). But because the last sitting was adjourned, the assembly could carry on its usual business in an emergency session.

Sivakumar had earlier barred and suspended Dr Zambry and his six exco members from the assembly.

To prevent the sitting from taking place, the current administration issued orders for the entrance to the state secretariat be barred. Police and Federal Reserve Unit personnel were already deployed late Monday to prevent anybody from entering.

Snap polls
Pakatan, which took over the state after the 12th general election last March, has been trying to call for new state elections after it begin to see its rule slipping away earlier this year.

The crisis began on Jan 25 when Bota assemblyman Datuk Nasarudin Hashim resigned from Umno to join Pakatan component party PKR, which led to rumours of many more cross-overs to and from both sides of the political divide.

The crisis deepened after Behrang assemblyman Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi and Changkat Jering assemblyman Mohd Osman Mohd Jailu, both from PKR and both facing corruption charges, went “missing” for a few days, only to resurface after a few days to announce they were quitting their party.

At the same time, Jelapang assemblyman Hee Yit Foong announced she was quitting DAP, another Pakatan component party.

All three declared they would remain independent but pledged their support for Barisan.

At the time, Sivakumar said that he had received letters from the three reps saying they were also vacating their seats, but the Election Commission decided that the resignation letters were not valid as they were undated and that there was no need for by-elections in their constituencies.

To add salt to Pakatan’s wound, Nasarudin announced he was switching back to Umno after fewer than 10 days as a PKR man.

With that, both Barisan and Pakatan held 28 seats each in the state assembly, but the three independents’ pledge of support to Barisan tipped the balance enough for Sultan Azlan Shah to declare Barisan as having the support of the majority and he refused Nizar’s request for the state assembly to be dissolved and snap elections be called.

Court battles
The tussle will also play out in the courts, with Nizar having filed an application for a judicial review to challenge the legitimacy of Dr Zambry as Perak mentri besar.

The case will be heard on Tuesday before High Court (Special Powers and Appellate) Court judge Lau Bee Lan, six days after Judicial Commissioner Mohamad Ariff Md Yusof recused himself from hearing the suit.

In his application for a judicial review, Nizar is seeking an interpretation of the Perak state constitution on whether the mentri besar’s post can be vacated in a situation whereby:

* THE mentri besar had advised the ruler on the dissolution of the state legislative assembly;
* THERE is no dissolution of the assembly;
* THERE was no motion of confidence performed against him at the state legislative assembly;
* THERE was no resignation made by him.

He is also seeking a declaration that he is the legal mentri besar of Perak and asking for an injunction to stop Zambry from carrying out the duties and functions of the mentri besar; and also punitive, aggravated and exemplary damages and costs.

On Monday, Perak executive councillor Mohd Zahir Abdul Khalid served an originating summons on behalf of the three independent reps — Jamaluddin, Mohd Osman and Hee — seeking a court declaration that they were still elected representatives of their constituencies.

The three were challenging the Speaker’s decision that they had resigned and that their seats were vacant. This case will be heard on Thursday.

Meanwhile, Dr Zambry has sought a court declaration to make illegal Sivakumar’s suspension of him and his six exco members. This case will also be heard on Tuesday morning.

Dr Zambry said he was seeking a declaration that Sivakumar’s decision was unconstitutional and ultra vires the state constitution.

He sought declarations that he and his exco members had the right to attend sittings and that the House was not to be bound by any rules by, or instructions from, the Speaker.

  1. #1 by k1980 on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:07 am

    Because of a polio-stricken frog from Jelapang, the entire population of Perak are enslaved to a govt they did not vote for.

  2. #2 by mendela on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:17 am

    Pak Lah should do one last thing in his term as PM of Malaysia to right all his wrongdoings:

    Cramp down on Najis, the fake MB Zarim, and to ensure a smooth fresh State Election in Perak!

  3. #3 by vchi on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:21 am

    Long live the tree of liberty!

    One day, my future generations are going to visit this tree and say, this is where Malaysian democracy was truly born!

  4. #4 by Toyol on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:24 am

    By not allowing the assemblymen from entering the building, police have in fact prevented elected officials from performing their obligations to the rakyat. BN has again shown that they are not FOR the people but AGAINST them. The police are just a means to the end. Nothing but dogs!

    In their quest for power and greed, BN has shown their true colors time and again. There is no longer any law and order, only that which BN prescribes to us.

  5. #5 by Kelvenho on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:29 am

    We have witness the dead of democracy in Perak.
    Why MCA, MIC and Gerakan are so quiet about it.
    Are they scare of UMNO the big “Tai Ko” ? In the end the people
    of Perak will suffer. Why BN don’t bother about the people’s feeling
    and suffering. I hope BN will lose the 3 by-election and the deposit
    as well.

  6. #6 by limaho on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:30 am

    Congratulations to PR for going ahead with the meeting in the face of all the difficulties. The crisis is best resolved by holding a fresh election. Let the people decide who should rightfully govern.

  7. #7 by distantmalay on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:35 am

    indeed ! history was made under this tree.

    when pakatan recovers the silver state, please preserve this tree as a lesson for the future.

  8. #8 by k1980 on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:35 am

    In the end, the economic meltdown will force BN out

    Malaysia’s primary exports are electronics and commodities. Palm oil, of which Malaysia is the world’s second largest exporter, has fallen to 40.4 percent off its cyclical high. Crude oil is down 62.9 percent from its cyclical high, tin off 56 percent. Electronics exports are down by more than 30 percent year on year.

  9. #9 by boh-liao on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:39 am

    If people cannot be allowed to see the TRUTH,
    then the truth must be suppressed at all costs.

    Umno and BN are experts at abusing the entire system to work for them – to achieve their objectives at all costs.

  10. #10 by sani on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:42 am


    The BN said Zamry boy is the legal MB.

    Have to hid behind the Palace, the FRU line, crying to the courts. How legal can he be?

    The dangerous thing is, if this can happen in the State Of Perak, then it can happen in the Federation of Malaysia.

    So friends, no choice but have to cut this BN cancer away come next GE.

  11. #11 by DAP man on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:43 am

    How can MCA be a part of this charade and abuse of democracy? Why does it condone this rape of democracy? And does it plan to re-brand and reform by being a part of BN.
    UMNO will make sure MCA goes down with it.

  12. #12 by Skeatx on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:45 am

    the high court don’t allow the PR lawyers to represent Sivakumar. Siva can only be represented by state government lawyers…. which means BN lawyers currently..

  13. #13 by Skeatx on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:47 am

    Malaysian medias kept mum on Perak proceedings… under the instructions of BN?

  14. #14 by old dad on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:47 am

    Please give a name to this democracy tree.Do us a favour by marking out this tree as a reminder to us for GE13. I’m going to see this historic tree.

  15. #15 by Godfather on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 12:02 pm

    What doctrine of the separation of powers ? We knew all along that the AG, the IGP, the Chief Secretary, the MACC Commissioner, the EC Commissioner, the CJ are all beholden to UMNO.

    Now that the Perak Assembly has met, and has voted, the next step is to tell the Sultan what the representatives – and the rakyat – want i.e. dissolution of the Assembly and new elections. Can the Sultan refuse this time ?

  16. #16 by Ken G on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 12:08 pm

    Democracy trampled under the jackboots of the police in Perak but it refuses to die quietly and regenerated under a tree. Let the whole country witness the shameful acts of BN. BN has held on illegally to the Perak govt but at a crushing price. It has set the stage for its own demise.

  17. #17 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 12:11 pm

    Welcome to a Zimbabwe-ised Malaysia.

    Welcome to Mugabe Najib and Mugabe Zambry, cronies of MM (Mugabe Mahathir).

  18. #18 by LBJ on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 12:33 pm

    Henceforth, this declaration sahll be known as the Rain Tree Declaration

  19. #19 by k1980 on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 12:39 pm

    After the 13th GE, umno assemblies will be held under coconut trees as all its buildings would have been auctioned off

  20. #20 by daryl on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 12:46 pm

    We always suspect that RAKYAT is going against not on UMNO but there were prove. Today we confirmed that they not only control all these so call independent section of the law but is willing to use them to stay in power. We now know what we are up against and better make preparation for PRU-13 because if not rakyat will never have a chance with these gangster.

    My prayer to Perak…

  21. #21 by chanjoe on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 12:48 pm

    I dont dare to imagine what will happen when PR wins the 13 GE and the Polis lock out Parliament to prevent PR from taking oath. This is how BN works.

    I sincerely call on all MCA, Gerakan, MIC and other BN parties members and supporters to look at how Bn had robbed Perak Rakyat of their very rights with the help (Under Threat?) from HRH, the Palace.

    Till now, even when things had come to such a stage…HRH Sultan has not even utter a owrd and maybe he is enjoying the show to see how his state goes down before he passes his bastion to his son.

    HRH Sultan Perak should act what the King of Thailand had done under similar situation. He should call for both “MB”s to audience and inform them that he wants to dissolve the State Assembly as thats the only WISE move to diffuse the whole situation and hand the decision back to the Rakyat to decide for themselves who they want to be the new state govt.

    If he does not do anything…then cant blame Rakyat for losing fatih in his rule.

    Sad….Sad….Real Sad….

  22. #22 by the reds on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 1:02 pm

    Good job, Pakatan Rakyat!! Keep it up… Hopefully we will see a snap poll soon :)

  23. #23 by HJ Angus on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 1:06 pm

    It appears like a scene from the American revolution when the Yanks broke away from the yoke of the British.
    Without all the regal trappings, this is democracy at its best.
    The will of the people is best left to voters and not the courts that also have a question mark on their integrity.
    We know which party to blame for the break-down of our national institutions.

  24. #24 by k1980 on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 1:09 pm

    Another coup d’etat, after the ones in Guinea Bissau and Perak

    Several Umno members are expected to set in motion today moves to obtain a court injunction to block this months’s Umno general assembly. Their ultimate aim: to block the ruling party endorsing Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak as the Umno president and pave the way for Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to stay on as prime minister.

  25. #25 by Skeatx on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 1:11 pm

    I wonder what would happen in 3~4 years time before the next GE..

    Anything could happen.

    Malaysians mudah lupa

  26. #26 by Yee Siew Wah on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 1:23 pm

    BN especially UMNO is now using the PDRM, Judiciary and their zombies to try disrupt the Perak State Assembly at all cost. What type of cowards they are.
    Since the 3 despicable froggies betrayal, this is the result. The rakyat suffers.
    Do not forget that handicap greedy female betrayal from Jelapang. I beleive the rakyat will never ever forgive this despicable destroyer of justice. The rakyat can wait until this whore dies

  27. #27 by mendela on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 1:31 pm

    To all UMNO Celaka, where are your balls?

    The problem will solve by simply dissolving the State assembly. You have no balls and no guts?

    What about the MCA?
    Where is the justice? Can’t you cowards speak up against such UMNO’s idiotic acts?

  28. #28 by Saint on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 1:45 pm

    Too sad that our own fellow countrymen are still supporting BN without knowing how much blood was shed throughout the world to protect democracy.

  29. #29 by HB Lim on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 2:15 pm

    Believe me, the tree will be chopped down very soon.

  30. #30 by wanderer on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 2:32 pm

    The motion to dissolve the Perak State Assembly was passed. The ball is now in the sultan’s court. What will HRH do?
    Sit down and do nothing or continue his support for the govt he created? If his neutrality is suspect, what little respect left from his subjects will vanish in thin air.
    What gold to have a ‘Golden Palace’ without his loyal subjects!
    What good is the rule of democracy just in name?

  31. #31 by Skeatx on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 2:35 pm

    Tree to be chopped down..
    Reason: Banyak Ulat

  32. #32 by chanjoe on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 2:38 pm

    We Malaysians from all over the country are watching with very sincere heart for HRH to act in a very nuetral way and it can only be : Dissolve State Assembly.

    Once the assembly is dissolved…all the horse pulling and names dropping will be over and the next course of action is to let the Perak Rakyat to decide who they wish to govern them.

  33. #33 by PSM on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 2:40 pm

    As with all Racist Regimes, UMNO will eventually collapse (just like the Berlin Wall, just like the Nazi Regime & just like the South African Apartheid Regime!).
    As for Perak, LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE!

  34. #34 by cintanegara on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 2:58 pm

    Don’t let DAP fools the Rakyats this time….It is just another episode of cheap political gimmick to gain support and attention from the public……Why under the tree when they have hundred of options/places where they can meet up??? ….I wonder how some low-IQ members of PR could act as such….

    As a matter of fact, DAP is not really interested in helping Nizar and it’s allies from PR…its real intention to get the MB post for itself…..If the fresh election were to be held….DAP would put 1 or 2 Malay candidates …..Of course they are puppet/clowns who would at any time comply with their master’s order….

    Sadly, the majority had already known these tactics….Of course they are wise enough not to put their future at stake….. .. or else, they will end up like their relatives in a TINY country…

  35. #35 by Skeatx on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:01 pm


  36. #36 by Skeatx on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:07 pm


    Are you describing BN? I think it is pretty sure that DAP, PKR, PAS are united under a common cause. Pakatan Rakyat

    Those puppets/ clowns who would at any time comply with their master’s order.. you are refering to MCA, MIC instead.

    ..and your majority refers to? Those in UMNO or from UMNO youths right?

    The tiny country is more advanced, more developed than Malaysia. The minorities there (the Malays) are treated as equal as the majorities, equal chances, equal educations, far better than the majorities of this country, who rather rely on tongkat from the government and spoonfed by government.

  37. #37 by wanderer on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:11 pm


    The motion was passed to dissolve the Perak State Assembly under a sentimental ASANA TREE, how does that grab you? Go and eat your heart out!! hahaha

  38. #38 by a-malaysian on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:13 pm

    The direction of evil umno is very clear. Not that they do not know about the constitution or the law, they are flexing their muscle thinking that the Sultan is behind them.

    Their next actions, either one of these:

    To detain all PR Aduns under the ISA or impose the emergency rule.

    The only hope from that happening is that the Sultan must act or speak out now.

    Malaysia For All

    GE 13 – No matter what, we must ensure that racist umno bn do not regain the power like they had for the past fifty one years.

  39. #39 by wanderer on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:15 pm

    In case the UMNO goons have still not learned, “THE PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD”

  40. #40 by Skeatx on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:17 pm


    are you C4 or Mat rempit in disguise?

  41. #41 by taiking on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:23 pm

    Keep up the pace and UMNO will surely sink under the weight of its over-fed members.

  42. #42 by cintanegara on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:30 pm

    Skeatx says, ‘The minorities there (in the TINY country) are treated as equal as the majorities, equal chances, equal educations’

    Their loyalty have been unfairly questioned and denied certain positions in the cabinet/military…Are you saying they are treated equally? Please state, present cabinet member of this community holding significant/senior position? Do you think the Government of that TINY country allow this minority to fly a fighter jet….So far, none of the regular visitors of this blog, gave me a convincing answer…..

  43. #43 by Godfather on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:35 pm

    What the idiot cintanegara is trying to tell us is the standard UMNO story: If you don’t like it here, you can always go to Singapore, and the only reason why you are still here is that you know that Bolehland is better than Singapore.

    So they expect us to keep our mouths shut. They have every right to steal, lie and cheat. Am I articulating UMNO’s position correctly cintanegara ?

  44. #44 by chanjoe on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:41 pm

    cintanegara is not cinta negara.

    There is no time and place for whatever party under PR to be fooling anyother party.

    Wat say you when its clearly UMNO playing up MCA & other Bn units to secure for their own interest. How come nothing about UMNO’s undemocratic and assistance from State Secretary, Assembly Secretary, Police and HRH to rob the Rakyat of their rightful voted govt?

    Please be mindful that PR won the GE12 even under very unfair and one sided tactics. So if your argument is rite, then why have any GE in the first place? Just grab the power of each stae and the whole country and declare BN as the master. Be another undemocratic country since you dont care a damn about what is democracy. May GOD forgive you.

  45. #45 by WonderPets on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 3:48 pm

    We must fight and fight till the end….evil can’t win with all this dirty tactics. How can they say we are illegal and unconstitional when they are are who starts it first. PKR, we are 100% supporting you!!

  46. #46 by JACK NG on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 4:09 pm

    The best way is as respect of Perak’s Sultan decide to re-election of Perak. Lets BN’s seat less than 10. let the gap of seat more than 20 then BN is totally lost. Let BN go go must die. unless he still got others 10 billion to spend to. buy more PR as they can.

  47. #47 by boh-liao on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 4:10 pm

    Calling all constituents within the constituencies of the three no-principle jumping State Assemblymen and woman: continue to put pressure on these three frogs to RESIGN as State Assemblymen and woman. Ask them to take their money and disappear.

    We want by elections to settle the issue: which party has the mandate of the people of Perak to rule Perak?

  48. #48 by sheriff singh on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 4:24 pm

    Remember how the Rusa, the mouse deer, fought back and overcame the attacking dogs under the Malacca tree? Parameswara was impressed and decided the settle there and the Malacca Sultanate was formed in 1401.

    Now 600 years later, our valiant PR fighters have stood under the Rain Tree (Samanea saman) to fight back against the tyrants, oppressors and pretenders.

    Will we now see a Renaissance in Perak? Today is certainly a historic day for Perak and the Nation.

  49. #49 by shambles on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 4:56 pm

    Oh well….as Anwar puts it …”LAWAN, TETAP LAWAN!!!”

    Lets fight this to the very end. We have the state constitution on our side. If the ruling coalition tries anything nasty, they will risk plunging Malaysia into another constitutional crisis. Malaysians now are more knowledable then during 1988. I’m sure they will get what’s coming to them in the Sarawak elections and also the next GE. GET LOST!! CELAKA!!!

  50. #50 by trublumsian on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 4:56 pm

    cinta-nether-region-negara , ur relatives in the tiny country could not fly a jet, run a company, or just dig a hole because they aren’t qualified. what more convincing do u want?? maybe ur relatives r 2nd best, but that tiny country looks at THE best, first, regardless of skin color or religion. n ur relatives aren’t complaining because they know. u, on the other hand, continue to hide under the pantyhose of mama umno cos without it u r worthless. as in a piece of excrement.

  51. #51 by k1980 on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 5:06 pm

    Anwar — ”LAWAN, TETAP LAWAN!!!”

    The results of a second autopsy released by the family of A Kugan shows the suspected car thief was beaten and eventually died from acute kidney failure.

    A pathologist commissioned by Kugan’s family concluded that the suspected criminal suffered from internal bleeding due to the beating.Kugan had been arrested on suspicion of belonging to a car theft syndicate, but died while in custody at the Subang Jaya police station in January.

    Conducted by the Universiti Malaya Medical Centre, the second post-mortem showed Kugan had multiple burn-marks on his body.

  52. #52 by upholdjustice on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 5:10 pm


    Their loyalty have been consistently questioned because of people like you who like to incite racial riot.Why must give top or key positions to the Malays when there is always someone more capable,more competent from other races?

    Singapore is not like Malaysia blessed with a wealth of natural resources.Malaysia can waste money to produce many good for nothing Malays entrepreneurs or one so called astronaut.But Singapore cannot afford.

    Why are you so obsessed with flying a fighter jet?

    There is no non Malays Vice Chancellor in Malaysians public universities.Hence the non Malays here are academically backward than the Malays and need much assistance from the government.

  53. #53 by sheriff singh on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 5:22 pm

    Of course the Perak Speaker has the power to call for an emergency sitting of the Assembly. The Sultan need not be involved on this.

    Remember back in early January 2009 when the Dewan Rakyat Parliament was called back for an emergency sitting by the Speaker to pass motions condemning the Israeli attacks on Gaza? Was the King involved in this emergency meeting? Did His Majesty open that sitting? But Parliament sat and passed the motions without any challenge to the validity of that sitting.

    So what’s the problemo in Perak?

  54. #54 by milduser on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 5:24 pm

    The Show is not over until it is over …

  55. #55 by jus legitimum on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 5:24 pm

    People like ‘cinta?’ are hypocrites,parasites,lazy bums,always greedily expect a lot for nothing,narrow minded,racists,thieves,robbers,religious bigots,gangsters,pea brained,broken English users.The party he supports is damn big bully,never respects law,forever resorts to using force , intimidation,lies to suppress others.That devilish organisation talks about unity but practises apartheid by dividing the people into bumi and non bumi.They are the ugliest demons in this originally very rich land but now already been squandered dry and barren.

  56. #56 by yhsiew on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 5:43 pm


    Well done!

    Democracy under PR is very inspiring – state assembly under a tree!

    Nizar must get the Sultan to dissolve the state assembly AS SOON AS POSSIBLE before BN creates more trouble for PR.

  57. #57 by Jong on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 5:46 pm

    YB Kit,

    Today, I am extremely pleased I have lived those great moments, proud to be a part of history, proud of Pakatan Rakyat’s Speaker Mr V Sivakumar!

    Mr Sivakumar has cleverly made history, got the world as witness to this Perak State Assembly conducted under the Rain Tree! I was there.

    This is truly “Malaysia Boleh”! Even the poorest and remotest region/country of the world would not have lived up to this ‘standard’. Malaysia memang BOLEH!

  58. #58 by taiking on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 5:54 pm

    A wrong is a wrong and will always remain a wrong. It will not correct itself that is for sure. And contrary to popular belief neither does time have any corrective effect upon it. For those who relied on a wrong-doing for a cause or for furthering a cause might actually have tasted the sweetness of their effort then. But the bitterness of the wrong will as sure as day follows night come visiting later on.

    The ’88 judicial crisis is a good example. It may be a fantastic triumph for mamakthir and umno then but now it has become a disastrous blot in the record of umno and a high hurdle in their path. Yes umno apparently had secured the control of perak assembly (albeit by a slim margin). Its an absolutely wrong and bad move. And it is also illegal and unconstitutional. But mark my word. The Tuan Rempit McBullys would not get to enjoy a single happy victorious day. Worse, the power grabbing incident will bear them and the “MV UMNO” all the way down to the bottom of the ocean.

    Never ever hope to get away with wrong-doings. And remember this. You lot, Tuan Rempit McBullys will not get any help or sympathy from non-umnoputras including those who are malay.

  59. #59 by distantmalay on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 6:02 pm

    when a political party is afraid of holding elections, it realizes that it no longer enjoy the support of the majority of rakyat.

    it’s end is near.

  60. #60 by m.a. on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 6:03 pm

    Name the tree as “Democracy Tree, 2009”

  61. #61 by m.a. on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 6:06 pm

    distantmalay Says “when a political party is afraid of holding elections, it realizes that it no longer enjoy the support of the majority of rakyat.

    I seconded the statement.

  62. #62 by Skeatx on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 6:24 pm


    Who told you that the minorities are not allowed to fly jet? Which stories you listen? From the Ameno Archives a?

    Even that is true..

    orang Lain racist, meaning Malaysia also can racist la, correct?

  63. #63 by monsterball on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 6:27 pm

    The Sultan of Perak is such a lawful experienced intelligent man…with high morals ad ethics…surely he can SEE for himself…was that decision of his…wise or unwise.
    Leaving suspicions…he was favoring UMNO…will he allows his Perak State to continue like this….or be brave enough to command and demand… a State election..for the peace and goodness of his subjects.

  64. #64 by cintanegara on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 6:30 pm

    It seems jus legitimum is trying to make something out of nothing. He sounds like hyperbole or abstract nonsense …..It is extremely difficult to discuss with UNEDUCATED, profane, impious and aberrant person like him…….

  65. #65 by Jong on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 6:31 pm

    Where is the Sultan of Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah? Where is the Raja Muda of Perak, Nazrin Shah? In catch 22?

  66. #66 by boh-liao on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 6:37 pm

    Yes, people CAN SEE things.
    But sometimes it is a question of whether one WANTS to see or not.

    Yes, an independent post-mortem report conducted by a pathologist indicated that the police detainee Kugan died from the result of severe beating.

    Severe beating by who? Why was the people who committed the crime so daring? Given protection by who?

    Wonder Y our mata-mata are beholden to XXX?

    Join the dots.

  67. #67 by ekans on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 6:48 pm

    Some one is still preoccupied with his/her allegations that a particular ethnic minority in a TINY country has been marginalised/oppressed/persecuted. One wonders whether this person knows the answers to the following questions.

    1. In what language, is the state motto of this TINY country inscribed in on its state crest / coat of arms?

    2. What is the language used for the title of this TINY country’s national anthem?

    3. In what language, is the national anthem of this TINY country sung in?

    4. When the citizens of this TINY country perform their duties in their National Service, what is the language used by their drill instructors?

    As far as I still know, the answers to the questions above are not English, Mandarin, Tamil or even Latin.

  68. #68 by boh-liao on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 7:01 pm

    Will the Perak Speaker, V. Sivakumar, become part of a magician act and join Bala’s fate?

  69. #69 by Prasad on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 7:03 pm

    What’s worst Sivakumar is not even allowed to choose his own lawyer.

  70. #70 by ekans on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 7:28 pm

    Last week, at the Parliament, we had witnessed an elderly, wheelchair-bound MP, an elected representative of the people, being obstructed & harassed by non-MPs, who are members of his political opponents, and thus, he was forcefully prevented from entering the building temporarily. When this unlawful, shameful act was taking place, the security staff (Polis Bantuan) did not come to the aid of that MP.

    Today, at the Perak state secretariat building, elected representatives of the state assembly were obstructed & harassed by the police in order to prevent them from entering the building.

    Isn’t it strange? Because it’s obvious that the rabble-rousers at the Parliament last week, and the police at the Perak state secretariat building today, were doing same task.

    Another strange thing is that the police were willing to let the state assembly speaker enter the building, but did not allow the state assembly representatives to enter.

    Why is it so?
    Can the police simply decide whether those who were elected by the people, allowed or not allowed do their jobs?

  71. #71 by Justitia on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 7:38 pm

    I think we are now the laughing stock of the world. When I was studying in the U.S. a while back, I was confronted with serious questions about whether we still live in trees. My favorite answer was, “Yes, but we take the elevator to go up and down.”

    When we are forced to hold state assemblies under a tree, what kind of image are we communicating to the rest of the world. It seems that the BN has utterly no shame and is hopelessly corrupt to the core. It is dragging all our institutions into disrepute – the police, judiciary, executive, royalty. etc.

    Faced with an impasse, it is normal to go back to the people to get a fresh mandate. So, what is the BN afraid of? These are the death throes of UMNO making themselves more and more irrelevant as they are living in a fantasy world completely out of touch with reality. They make up their own rules as they go along and completely ignores the rule of established law. What a bunch of despicable cowards!!!!

  72. #72 by voice on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 7:41 pm

    I’m proud to be a Perakian again, the tree of democracy indeed has its meaning, today is the date that will be in my memory forever where the great fighters of democracy grabbing the power back to the people.
    Nizar, V. Sivakumar, and all the PR ADUNs who never fell for the money, will be remembered, and please continue to fight against the evil power, I believe the truth will prevail!

  73. #73 by jus legitimum on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 7:44 pm

    Cintanegara,obviously to many people in this blog is a misnomer.I think it sounds suitably if you call yourself cintaumno.That was why I quote you as ‘cinta?’ in my earlier post because I felt more comfortable doing so.You branded me uneducated,profane,impious but I think I am more educated than you and I am quite religious and strongly uphold my belief in God.You implied you are educated but you are the most ignorant fellow I have ever come across based on your stupid comments about Singapore.Notwithstanding your shallow and hollow comments,the barrage of criticisms against your foolish utterences by other posters has proven beyond doubt you are absolutely brainless.

  74. #74 by flyer168 on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 7:47 pm

    Dear YB LKS & ALL Anak Bangsa Malaysia wherever you are,

    – All our “Defenders of Truth, Justice, Equality & Freedom” & all Anak Bangsa Malaysia have done everything that is “Humanly” possible, but “Do Not” give up the fight & struggle…

    – God Almighty “Hears & Feels” the Call, the Pain & the Despair of the downtrodden rayaat.

    – Please say a little prayer in your own way & faith for God Almighty’s “Devine Intervention”…..

    – For this great nation & all Anak Bangsa Malaysia against the “Opressors”.

    – The “Childish Charades” of the UMNO Leaders & their “Political Slaves” from Top to Bottom….

    – “Kita di Perentah/Arah…..” vs our “Constitution”, Democracy & the Rule of Law has created another “1st in our National History” of 52 years in Ipoh Perak today….

    – The Perak Dewan Speaker had no “Recourse” but to conduct his “Emergengy Sitting” together with the Perak MB & his Quorum Assembly members beside the Car Park under a Huge Tree….

    – Witnessed by about 1000 citizens which was beamed to the whole World….

    – A “FULL BLOWN CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS” in Perak on 03/03/09….

    – Just how can our King & his Council of Rulers, our PM (& our DPM/Finance Minister?) ALLOW “Any Person or Group” within UNMO/BN to HOLD “Malaysia, its KING & his Council of Ruler”, our Constitution & Nothing but Our Constitution…the Supreme Law of this Land, Democracy, the Rule of Law & the downtrodden Anak Bangsa Malaysia to “Ransom” ?

    With UMNO/BN still in “Denial” even at this 11th hour of our nation’s “Political & Financial Tsunami”….

    This is an Insult to this nation, the King & his Council of Rulers, our Constitution, the Malay race, Islam & ALL Anak Bangsa Malaysia ….

    God Almighty is giving this nation & those that “CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE” a “Window of Opportunity” to take the “BOLD STEP” to “DIFFUSE” this Dangerous Trend toward…”EMERGENCY RULE” & possibly “ANARCHY”.

    I am “PLEADING” to ALL PARTIES” to “Cool Off” for “SANITY & WISDOM” to PREVAIL!

    At this “Juncture” I am “Appealing” to our “King & his His Council of Rulers together with our PM to “Save this Nation”, to take the “BOLD STEPS NOW” to “DIFFUSE” this Dangerous Trend toward…”EMERGENCY RULE” & possibly “ANARCHY”.

    I am also “Appealing” to ALL our Anak Bangsa Malaysia to “PETITION” to our “King & his His Council of Rulers together with our PM to take advantage of this “God” given “WINDOW of OPPORTUNITY” to CONSIDER doing the “NEEDFUL URGENTLY” Now.

    Ampun Tuanku Beribu Ampun Sembah Patik Mohon Di-Ampun.

    Daulat Tuanku, Daulat Tuanku, Daulat Tuanku.

  75. #75 by alaneth on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 8:33 pm

    All these & UMNO/BN still wants to struggle to keep power! How long can they last? The longest duration if there are no reverse hopping frogs is another 3 yrs till the next GE where PR will win 2/3 of Perak DUN.

  76. #76 by alaneth on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 8:38 pm

    I hope BN/UMNO will lose their deposit money in the Bukit Gantang by-elections when they fail to gather 1/8 of the votes!

    Also hoping for the same for Bukit Selambau where they will lose badly & also Batang Ai in Sarawak where hopefully PKR/PR will make great inroads there.

    We will then see the reddest faced PM in the annals of Malaysian History unless his facial skin is sooooo thick.

  77. #77 by alaneth on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 8:43 pm

    Historians, pick up your pens & prepare to write history in 3 years time. I predict that we will see the ousting of BN leadership and the welcoming of a new era of clean politics, the PR way. Be prepared for a new Malaysia, a new era and a new leadership based on justice & equality where everybody leave in peace and happiness.

    This will slowly start from seeing Bukit Gantang, Selambau being pulled strongly towards PR and a few more by-elections to come until we face the big challenge, the next GE in 3 years time…

  78. #78 by aiD_kamikuP on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 8:54 pm

    Bravo to all PR ADUNs who attended this historic ceremony under what many have called the ‘Tree of Democracy’ and truly lived the spirit of and upheld the principles of Democracy.

    It is a shame that bn aduns and the lapdogs have resorted to dirty tricks like locking up the Dewan and issuing unauthorised statement claiming sitting was invalid. Such acts are akin to monkeys who, knowing little of the concept of democracy, can only climb on what they could just to throw stones on civilised conducts.

    Shame too on the bn lapdog state assembly secretary Abdullah Antong for all his unprofessional conducts. He deserved to be SUSPENDED. So now he is called Abdullah GAntong!!

    Need we say anything more about the Police?? tsk…tsk…tsk……cicak pun tahu.

  79. #79 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 9:03 pm

    HRH Nazrin said we must be guided by the rule of law.

    BN lives by Law of Jungle and is as naked as Tarzan. Police behaves like monkeys in Tarzan’s jungle. Are there kangaroos in Tarzan-land too? Just thinking of the courts.

  80. #80 by gyp on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 9:21 pm

    Keep up the hardwork all the PR ADUNs.

    We salute you.

    Bring us the fairness and justice for Malaysian.

    Will you, all the PR ADUNs.

    Uphold your hardwork and spirit PR ADUNs.

    Bring us the fairness and justice for Malaysian.

  81. #81 by One4All4One on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 9:45 pm

    Azalina Othman says Perak Assembly “emergency session” uncivilised.

    Well, what a compliment!

    Uncivilised should be those all housed up illegally in the air-conditioned offices scheming and grabbing power using channels all cooked up in their favour. They are the ones taking the law unto themselves and interpreting and breaching them according to their whims and fancies. And deem it fit that the people accept their treacherous and crafty orchestration of events to favour their taste and greed!!

    What actually took place in the courts, state secretariat building, and what-have-you are reflections of laws of the jungle, participated and acted out by desperadoes. Anyway, what can you expect desperate people do, other than desperate things?
    Uncivilised ad infinitum.

    For azalina, the juvenile delinquent, what she should read from this episode in Perak is that it takes courageous and brave people to champion and uphold righteousness, rule of law, conscience of the citizenry and exercising and practising whatever that is provided for under the sacred constitution of the land.

    No matter where that right is exercised is immaterial. It is the substance that counts, not the form. Even MOTHER NATURE witnessed the sitting of the assembly. Bless them all!

    The assemblymen who attended the assembly sitting under that tree are the real champions of the people of Perak. They demonstrated to the rakyat that they are there to protect and serve no matter what obstacles or inconveniences were put up by those who grabbed and robbed their lawful and inalienble rights.

    //Azalina said there had never been a time in the country’s history when a state assembly sitting was convened under a tree.//

    Well, there had also not been a time in our country’s history that a state building had been cordoned off by illegally by government machineries and apparatus to disallow a legitimate assembly from taking place. Not even in the world’s history, I suppose. What can azalina the delinquent say about this? Such kind of act could only be carried out and orchestrated by the desperate and not so civilised and somewhat barbaric people! NATURE condemns such illicit articulations.

    And, according to themalaysianinsider,

    //In Melaka, Chief Minister Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam also said that the emergency session was “an insult to the democratic system and a total disregard to the federal and state constitutions.”//

    Wondering if he understands what insult means? And who is insulting who?

    On the contrary, he is insulting the intelligence of the rakyat! The rakyat can differentiate the right from the wrong. He seems to have forgotten what 308 means when the rakyat demonstrated the actual meanings of democracy and the interpretation of the federal and state constitutions.

    //“The people of Perak should not panic with the opposition’s strategy. Datuk Zambry is the legitimate Perak menteri besar and he and his six executive councillors can continue to discharge their duties,” he added.//

    Telling Perakians who are in the thick of actions not to panic?? In the first place, when did any Perakians say they are panicky? They are gallant and steadfast people fighting for their rights. Even with the onslaught of the power grabbers to devise and craft all sorts of obstacles and walls to deter the spirit of the crusaders, the Perakians.

    Who is he to say that //”Datuk Zambry is the legitimate Perak menteri besar and he and his six executive councillors can continue to discharge their duties,” //?

    That is for the Perakians to say and decide. He and those of his likes seem to know what’s best for others. That may apply to BN-UMNO and their blind and greedy followers, but not to truly liberated minds.

    Further to that, in Cheras, KL,

    //Cheras Umno division chief Senator Datuk Wira Syed Ali AlHabshee said the action had marred the institution of the state legislative assembly.

    “In presiding over the emergency session, the speaker ignored the role of the Sultan of Perak who is the pillar to the dignity of the state legislative assembly,” he said in a statement.//

    This umno man did not also mention that the rakyat are the past, present and future pillars of the country. Such deliberate omission shows that he does not respect the electorates, their rights and contributions to the nation. What an insult to the people. People have their dignities too. Perhaps syed alhabsheee didn’t have any himself.

  82. #82 by Onlooker Politics on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 10:07 pm

    Penal Code Section 124 stipulates, “Whoever, with the intention of inducing or compelling or attempting to induce or compel a member of Parliament or of any legislative assembly or of any state executive council to exercise or refrain from exercising in any manner the lawful powers of such member, assaults or wrongfully restrains, or attempts wrongfully to restrain, or overawes by means of criminal force, or the show of criminal force, or attempts so to overawe, such member shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to seven years, and shall also be liable to a fine.”

    The State Secretary of Perak, the OCPD of Ipoh and others who obstructed the sate assemblymen from convene of the emergency State Legislative Assembly on 03.03.2009 shall face the music due to their irresponsible actions taken against the 28 State Assemblymen. Noone shall be put above the law, including of any government officers who committed a criminal offence during the time of their performing the official duty.

    “The Rule of Law shall always prevail!” Such motto which is voiced out frequently by Sultan Azlan Shah and Raja Nazrin shall become the general guideline for the Law Enforcement Units such as the Police and the A-G’s Chamber in order to see into the matter that the Police Investigation be done on the State Secretary of Perak and the OCPD of Ipoh due to the fact that Police Reports have been lodged by PR State Assemblymen accusing these two government officers for obstructing the Sate Assemblymen from holding a convention of the emergency assembly at the State Legislative Assembly.

    The Rule of Law must not only be fair, it must also appear to all to be fair all the time!

  83. #83 by cemerlang on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 10:12 pm

    A courageous effort ! There is nothing wrong with meeting under the rain tree. After doing a bit of research, the history of democracy started even before the Greeks did it. Primitive democracy was practised in tribes. They had a village council and a headman. Everyone had a say. Think. If during those ancient times when those people were able to understand what speaking up was all about, how come we in this present time and age cannot understand ? With information technology, aren’t we supposed to know more ? How come some politicians talk like the people do not know as much ? Meeting under the rain tree is more transparent than meeting behind closed doors. Radio television Malaysia can only air selectively as ordered. Under the rain tree, anyone passing by can stop and listen. This is not just transparent but people friendly. It is not uncivilized as commented by some big shot lady UMNO politician. She should know that grabbing power or stealing power or erasing the wishes of the people is barbaric and more uncivilized. If religion fails to teach them about morality, ethics and principles, then they can understand easily what it means to waste money. Suruhanjaya pilihan Malaysia is just wasting money away conducting election after election. Again I say. There are many unfortunate people in Malaysia. There are many suffering people in the world. Use that money for the people. Democracy is insulted in every way. Malaysia has to decide which road to take. Good lawyers should rise up to this occasion. They should lead the people to change the system of government in Malaysia. Knowledge is power. Therefore traditions have to make way for knowledge. Not just any knowledge. But solid provened facts based on scientific minds and not on emotions.

  84. #84 by ch on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 10:18 pm

    Dear All,

    History may have been made in Perak today under that rain tree. But one should also ask if that history itself been recognized by the court of law. UMNO-Bn has effectively used section 44 of the special relief act to rule that the meeting held under the rain tree null and void. The other issue which we need to clarify is whether or not the Sultan of Perak will grant Nizar an audience to hear the latest development in his state. Am of the opinion that the Sultan will not grant himan audience as he had already relieved him of his duties as MB. In other words, the Sultan is of the opinion that the meeting held under the yum-yum tree is therefiore illegal although Pakatan may say that it is in all manner, legal. So, I am of the opinion that at the end of the day it is whether you have the audients to hear what you are trying to tell all and sundry. In the case of Pakatan, they may have the audients but the real \audience\ will not be listening to them.

    Is a long shot, but a good try, but then again, you just missed the hole.

  85. #85 by One4All4One on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 10:56 pm

    After all that had been said and done, the final say ought to go the rakyat.

    It is by the rakyat, of the rakyat, for the rakyat.

    Without the rakyat, there will be no country, no kings, no nothing.

    The rakyat are the eventual kings.

    And the eventual kings will always have the final say.

  86. #86 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:00 pm

    Rain tree?? Why not a coconut tree? Anything wrong with a coconut tree?

  87. #87 by HJ Angus on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:22 pm

    The show-down in Ipoh has some purpose even though the outcome may not be so satisfactory.
    It shows all loyal Malaysians that it will require a major effort by all to overcome the forces that seek to deny our freedom to elect public officials who can serve the people.
    It shows the power of the Executive to determine the outcomes of events controlled by the police and even the Courts as can be witnessed by today’s decisions.
    My decision would be to cease all further confrontational actions as the last thing we need to to have Pakatan leaders being charged with grave crimes like treason etc.
    You have fought the good fight – now is the time to withdraw and save your energy and skills to fight the next important battle – defeating the BN in the next general elections.
    See the inaction after the findings of the Lingam tapes and you can infer entire systems have been compromised.

  88. #88 by One4All4One on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 - 11:50 pm

    Considerations and characteristics which are of utmost importance when the assembly was convened are the spirit and substance of the sitting:

    The spirit and substance of convening the assembly should be seen in the context of its:

    >> Legality .

    There are many more legal experts who argued that the assembly sitting is legal and valid than those who who argued against it; and that it was held in accordance with the laws as provided for in the state and federal constitutions.

    The conclusions coming out of the courts of law are just extensions and reflections of the interpretation of the laws. It is the minds of the laws in our legal institutions and legal bodies which reflect of the sum total of the nation’s legal expertise and direction that matter most in the final analysis.

    If we extend those minds to the courts of laws, surely we can see that what happened in Perak today will be considered as legal and valid. Those who do not agree are just those with self-serving interest or are directed to do so, against their better judgments.

    >> Democracy and people’s affairs.

    The state assemblymen are exercising the democratic rights of the electorate by convening the assembly, no matter where the premise is. They are attempting to resolve contentious issues which affect people’s livelihood and their day to day affairs which are of prime urgency and importance. Failure to do so would result is grave repercussions and reflect the inaction and ineffectiveness of the elected people’s representatives and the government.

    To obstruct the assembly sitting would be an even graver crime and should be frowned upon. What else to say about those who forcibly attain the power of administration through dubious and illegal means and without the express approval of those whom the serve. Such anomaly should be rejected and disapproved and purged.

    >> Mandate of the people.

    Surely the most basic way to achieve a valid and truly democratically elected government is through the ballot box. No other methods or instruments could be considered more acceptable or robust than through the people’s mandate.

    Hence the assembly’s vote under that tropical tree to return the mandate to the people is most appropriate and sensible.

    To those who agree to disagree, they must consider the welfare of the people first and last and you should not fail to see the correctness of today’s state assembly and hence the necessity to agree to agree. Period.

  89. #89 by voice out on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 12:23 am

    Make sure the “TREE” is given the recognition and the TREE deserve to be recorded as one of the Visit Malaysia place of tourism…

    Malaysia Boleh!!!!

  90. #90 by One4All4One on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 12:32 am

    After all that has been said and done, the royal household of Perak cannot just sit quietly by as if nothing has happened which they should they be interested in, or all that is happening does not interest them at all.

    We are sure they know the happenings on the ground. But it is not necessary to wait till there be an “earthquake” or “tsunami” before making clear their stand and call for required actions.

    As Raja Nazrin has oft said and repeated in fora and conferences that, to quote him,

    The courts should not be used for political influence or perceived by the people as “a place for theatrical performance with pre-written scripts,” (the star feb 6 2009)

    “Practice according to the highest code of ethics to strengthen the democratic system in line with check and balance mechanisms for the three pillars — the legislative, executive and judiciary,” he said. (the star feb 6 2009)

    “A fair legal system is the pre-condition to ensure peace in the country.

    “It is an effective instrument to distance a citizen from seeking other alternatives and lead to a state of anarchy.

    “Rule of law implemented in a transparent manner is an important component to boost the confidence of outsiders, especially foreign investors,’’ he said. ( the star 6 feb 2009)

    To ensure the Rulers’ integrity is not questioned and the throne remains respected, Raja Nazrin said, the Rulers shall always be intelligent and wise, master knowledge, understand the surroundings and changes, and possess a group of advisers comprising experts and people knowledgeable in the relevant fields.

    “This will enable the Rulers to fulfil their roles with integrity and make the smart, accurate, just and fair decisions,” he said. (the star nov 7 2008)

    “The Rulers reside at a special position, have the opportunity to give smart views to influence and determine the direction of the nation positively and constructively through counsel, encouragement, persuasion, reminder and admonition,” he said. (the star nov 7 2008)

    “No segment of society must be disrespected, discredited and disenfranchised. No group should feel that their efforts and contributions go unrecognised and unwanted.

    “We must abandon the ‘silo’ mentality where we only look up at what is happening and not beside us at what others are experiencing,” Raja Nazrin said at the 21st LawAsia Conference. (the star 30 oct 2008)

    Very well said and articulated.

    It is indeed time to allow the preachings to be realised and practised. The people are suffering and crying for justice and real actions so that they could exercise their rights and liberties and carry on with their ordinary lives without unnecessary distractions.
    And that the government should and could carry out their certain duties and responsibilities accordingly.

  91. #91 by HJ Angus on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 12:38 am

    Malaysia is a nation famous for nice speeches. PERIOD.
    But when “push” comes to “SHOVE”, very few will walk their talk.
    This one episode in Perak has cancelled out all the nice speeches of Raja Nazrin over the past 10 years.
    It may even affect the long term fortune of the royal house as we know it.
    I hope for the sake of Malaysia that wise deeds will follow the wise words.

  92. #92 by 1to1 on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 12:49 am

    Why is it important for a state or a country to be democratic?

    “Strategically, democracy has an advantage because it forces decision-makers to take into account the interests, rights and opinions of most people in society. Since democracy gives some political power to each, more people are taken into account than under aristocracy or monarchy.”

    “Epistemologically, democracy is thought to be the best decision-making method on the grounds that it is generally more reliable in helping participants discover the right decisions. Since democracy brings a lot of people into the process of decision making, it can take advantage of many sources of information and critical assessment of laws and policies. Democratic decision-making tends to be more informed than other forms about the interests of citizens and the causal mechanisms necessary to advance those interests. Furthermore, the broad based discussion typical of democracy enhances the critical assessment of the different moral ideas that guide decision-makers.”

    “Some argue in addition that the above effects on character tend to enhance the quality of legislation as well. A society of autonomous, rational, and moral decision-makers is more likely to produce good legislation than a society ruled by a self-centered person or small group of persons who rule over slavish and unreflective subjects.”

    As individuals in a state or country, what are the benefits of democracy to us?

    “Some argue that the basic principles of democracy are founded in the idea that each individual has a right to liberty. Democracy, it is said, extends the idea that each ought to be master of his or her life to the domain of collective decision making. First, each person’s life is deeply affected by the larger social, legal and cultural environment in which he or she lives. Second, only when each person has an equal voice and vote in the process of collective decision-making will each have control over this larger environment.”

    “Democracy embodies a kind of peaceful and fair compromise among these conflicting claims to rule. Each compromises equally on what he claims as long as the others do, resulting in each having an equal say over decision making. In effect, democratic decision making respects each person’s point of view on matters of common concern by giving each an equal say about what to do in cases of disagreement.”

    “The facts described above, and the principle of equality, suggest that each person ought to have an equal say in determining the common legal, economic and political institutions they live under. In the light of these interests each citizen would have good reason to think that his or her interests were not being given the same weight as others if he or she had less decision making power than the others. And so each person who is deprived of a right to an equal say would have reason to believe that she is being treated publicly as an inferior.”

  93. #93 by Tonberry on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 4:24 am

    Skeatx Says:
    are you C4 or Mat rempit in disguise?

    He’s neither C4 nor mat rempit. He is just a celaka.

  94. #94 by chengho on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 8:34 am

    AAB is no match to the maestro Anwar in the street fight
    The FED and AG too weak with AAB at the helm probably AAB need Ambiga to asst him
    The scene was like in Jakarta many years back with professional demo
    on the street almost every day , in any case they did supplied with nasi bungkus…

  95. #95 by schk on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 11:40 am

    if you confident rakyat is supporting you, why dont you just dissolve the assembly…and go for re-election?

    if the speaker have not right to call for emergency sitting, why you need to get PDRM to close the entrance?

    if the secretary can over right the speaker, then LKS can sack PL also…..

    if speaker is against sultan…. who vote to take away the privilege in few years back?

    if nizar is traitor, then those BN supporter are samseng…..

    if you are good will you worry rakyat not vote you???????

    Kiasu is belong to Sing, not you ppl, please show us you got balls….let the silver ppl to make decision who they want……..

  96. #96 by i_love_malaysia on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 12:00 pm

    It is time for every one in Malaysia to pay tax!!! There should be no exemption because of who you are!!! Be a role model to every one, pay tax!!! Malaysia is having deficit budget!!! Time for those in highest places to show the ways!!!

  97. #97 by i_love_malaysia on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 12:04 pm

    Azalina got nothing to show for the past except wasting hundreds of millions ringgits of taxpayers money!!! She got no brain to talk about anything except spending money the wasteful ways!!!

  98. #98 by i_love_malaysia on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 12:14 pm


    Go by your arguments and logic, Obama could never become the President of USA!!! First, he is a black, Second, he is a minority, 3rd, he is not a muslim, 4th, he is too competent!!!

  99. #99 by voice out on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 11:54 pm

    If PAKATAN finally take over the government of the day, make sure this episode should be recorded in our history book so that future generation will learn how BN behave and think rational by themnselves so that they dont fall into the same trap…

  100. #100 by voice out on Wednesday, 4 March 2009 - 11:57 pm

    Malaysian is fond by the foreigners as we are multi racial and friendly. But after the PERAk fiasco, I really dont know what is “MULTIRACIAL” in the minds of foreigners..

    They may think we are racist lot…

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