This playing to the gallery has just got to be a comedy act.

Hamas leader: We reject a permanent truce with Israel

The deputy head of Hamas’s political bureau on Wednesday said his group is studying peace initiatives to end the violence in Gaza Strip but rejects permanent truce with Israel.

and

Hamas rejects deployment of peacekeepers:

Hamas would consider the stationing of observers on border crossings with Egypt but was opposed to the deployment of an international peacekeeping force, a senior official said on Tuesday.

Moussa Abu Marzouk, a Damascus-based Hamas official, told the Financial Times that his organisation, which has been under massive Israeli assault, was ready for a ceasefire as long as it involved an Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, the end of the blockade of the territory and some “arrangement” for the border crossing with Egypt.

…Mr Abu Marzouk, however, ridiculed the Israeli suggestion that it could be sidelined in any ceasefire deal, saying that his organisation did not recognise Israel’s legitimacy but dealt with it through mediators.

“This [the Israeli position] is not a problem. Our position is also that Israel is neither legitimate nor credible,” he said.

Parliamentary sessions are not enough, just loads of gabbing. Send in the RMR with Mahathir at the head.
Ahhh, then there`ll be results with those evil despicable jews running into the mediterranean.

24 April – 10 May , 1997

“Get Out Israel, We Hate You”; “Damn The Zionists”, “Crush The Jews” – so jeered the placards in downtown Kuala Lumpur this month. The provocation: the Israeli cricket team, possessed of a fairly unimposing record in international competition. Yet their two-week Malaysian tour in early April highlighted the growing contradictions between pragmatic and increasingly militant Islam in Malaysia.

The Israeli team arrived in Kuala Lumpur as the first delegation openly associated with Israel to visit Malaysia, whose unwavering hostility has precluded the establishment of diplomatic relations between the two countries. The series of anti-Israel demonstrations in the capital that followed provided headaches for police and organisers of the 22-nation tournament sponsored by the International Cricket Council.

As a precondition for hosting the ICC Trophy tournament, Malaysia was obliged to admit the Israeli team. Yet Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir – who has just returned from Saudi Arabia where he received the King Faisal award for his contribution to Islam – probably anticipated a negative reaction, argued that the granting of visas to the Israeli team enabled Malaysia to “point out to Israel and Israelis that followers of different religions in Malaysia can live together in harmony.”

Yet the protests began almost immediately. Only a day after the tournament began, on March 25, some 300 members of the opposition Parti Islam se-Malaysia (PAS) carried anti-Israel placards through Kuala Lumpur and later burnt two Israeli flags before dispersing. Two days later, a feature article in The Malaysian Star by Associate Professor Muhamad Nur Manuty, President of the Muslim Youth Movement of Malaysia, and Professor Chandra Muzaffar, Director of the Just World Trust, expressed concern that the Israeli team presence may be a precursor to diplomatic ties between Malaysia and Israel. Under the provocative heading “Tell the Israelis that it is not just cricket”, the authors’ strongly pro-Palestinian line verged on incitement; asserting that “To give even a slight hint of a willingness to consider recognition of Israel at this point in time would be a travesty of justice.”

Not surprisingly, a major incident occurred shortly afterwards on March 30 – around 500 PAS members invaded a ground where they mistakenly thought the Israeli team would be playing. The scheduled match between Canada and the Netherlands had to be cancelled after the demonstrators, sporting placards reading “Damn the Zionists” and “Crush Israel”, lit bonfires and smashed promotional billboards outside the PKNS ground in Kuala Lumpur. PAS members met the match referee and demanded to know where the Israelis were playing.

Incredibly, no arrests were made after the three-hour incident. The PAS’s protest leader Mahfuz Omar said his group would track down the Israeli team and stage more protests. Meanwhile, the match between Israel and Gibraltar had been switched to another venue – guarded by 100 riot police and five police buses blocking the entrance – after organisers received information that a protest would be staged.

Prime Minister Mahathir continued to defend his decision to allow the Israeli team to play by appealing to national pride, stating that “the international media, which is controlled by the West and the Jews, is always projecting a bad image of Malaysia, even to the extent of portraying an ugly image of Muslims… This is our opportunity to show them (the Israelis) that Muslims in Malaysia can be an example to other Islamic countries.”

The exhortation for calm did not prevent another disturbance from occurring – on April 4, about 800 protesters, comprised of PAS members and students from the University of Malaya, assembled after Friday prayers at the university’s main entrance in Kuala Lumpur. Israel was scheduled to play Argentina inside the campus. The Association of Students of Higher Institutions of Learning issued a statement proclaiming: “Israel is a race cursed by Allah and inviting them here means bringing God’s catastrophe into Malaysia.”

24 April – 10 May , 1997 (Part2)

The exhortation for calm did not prevent another disturbance from occurring – on April 4, about 800 protesters, comprised of PAS members and students from the University of Malaya, assembled after Friday prayers at the university’s main entrance in Kuala Lumpur. Israel was scheduled to play Argentina inside the campus. The Association of Students of Higher Institutions of Learning issued a statement proclaiming: “Israel is a race cursed by Allah and inviting them here means bringing God’s catastrophe into Malaysia.”

When the protesters refused to leave and began hurling stones at security personnel, police were forced to release tear gas and use batons and a water cannon to break up the group. About 100 protesters took refuge in a nearby Mosque, which police then surrounded for six hours before entering to make arrests. A PAS youth leader, Sheikh Abu Bakar, later boasted that the demonstration had forced Israel’s match to be cancelled, though in fact, the game had been moved to a secondary school in Kuala Lumpur.

With one protester and 22 police injured, it was the most violent demonstration seen in Kuala Lumpur for years and the first open manifestation of campus activism in almost two decades. Dr Mahathir responded by describing the demonstration as “sheer stupidity” which would not help the Palestinian struggle. The Education Minister, Najib Razak, followed by warning that students involved in the protest could be expelled, though the President of the Undergraduate Islamic Association, Ridhwan Zakaria, defended the students position, insisting those who participated had no links with the PAS and acted “of their own free will.”

The involvement of students in the demonstrations did not only indicate that the apparent calm of Malaysian universities is illusory. More significant is that the students are attracted to the radical and fundamentalist form of Islam promoted by PAS, and that this emerging generation opposes the Government’s more moderate and pragmatic approach to Islamic issues.

Making up 53 per cent of the population, Malaysia’s Muslims are necessarily an essential component of national stability. Apart from the opposition PAS (which governs the Kelantan province), Muslims are an influential force in Dr Mahathir’s United Malays National Organisation (UMNO), which is embroiled in debate over whether it should adopt a more Islamic orientation. Some senior figures in the party are said to believe the decision to admit the Israeli cricket team was ill-advised at a time when Islamic states have been calling for tough action against Israel, and say it left Mahathir’s pragmatic government open to criticism at home and from abroad.

The preceding declarations by Arab politicians have been done before 1967, as they had not the slightest knowledge of the existence of any Palestinian people. How and when did they change their mind and decided that such people existed? When the State of Israel was reborn in 1948 c.e., the “Palestinians” did not exist yet, the Arabs had still not discovered that “ancient” people. They were too busy with the purpose of annihilating the new Sovereign State and did not intend to create any Palestinian entity, but only to distribute the land among the already existing Arab states. They were defeated. They attempted again to destroy Israel in 1967, and were humiliated in only six days, in which they lost the lands that they had usurped in 1948. In those 19 years of Arab occupation of Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, neither Jordan nor Egypt suggested to create a “Palestinian” state, since the still non-existing Palestinians would have never claimed their alleged right to have their own state… Paradoxically, during the British Mandate, it was not any Arab group but the Jews that were known as “Palestinians”!

What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:

“There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity… yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel”.

– Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council –

“You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people”.

– Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat –

“As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today’s Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today’s Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants”.

– Walid Shoebat, an “ex-Palestinian” Arab –

anti-kezaliman Says:
Today at 10: 33.12 (10 minutes ago)

“All these are zionist versions of the stories. Why not you try to find the views of non-zionist Jews? ”

You Sir, are a Big Joke. Since when did all those Arabs saying what they are saying become Zionists? Maybe you could go teach Arabs about their own history – that would be rich.

Here`s something from Article 7 of those “Zionist” Hamas Charter where your brand of anti-kezaliman would dovetail nicely:

“The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Cedar tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (related by al-Bukhari and Muslem).

P.S.: Oh and thanks for the laughs.
P

More samples of Gandhi`s “sarcastic” anti-kezaliman:

When the extent of the holocaust was known, he criticized Jews who had tried to escape or fight for their lives as they did in Warsaw and Treblinka. “The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife,” he said. “They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.”

“If you listen carefully, there are Jews here and there oppose the Israeli way of establishing the country.”

Vice versa too – only they don`t go around throwing shoes. And a large number, as testified to by former PLO terrorist and now Christian convert, Walid Shoebat (quoted above), were descendants of the Arab influx in large part to Churchill`s efforts in thwarting the Balfour Declaration.

Btw most of that “snatched” land was bought by jews. In fact currently there are more than a million Arabs in Israel proper.
What about the larger number of Jews who were thrown out by the Arab countries after `48 (a larger number than the Arabs from israel)?

This Arab influx was increased after `67 when the Gaza became a thriving commune after the Israeli takeover.A UN Report of that period listed Gaza as an economic miracle and 2nd to S`pore for investment.
Didn`t last long that.

It is absurd to even imagine that Jerusalem is not a religious issue – despite the attempts at dissimulation.

“And this is nothing to do with whether the people are Jordanian or Palestinian,….” anti-kezaliman

The PLO, Syrians, Jordanians etc. know better and much more than you:

“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”

– March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein.

“You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people”.

– Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat
[One good reason why hamas Chief Khalid Mashaal is based in Damascus, Syria]

e.g.: ISA-expert, Syed Hamid Albar, Bumiputra from Yemen.

Some needless fretting over Obama who has promised a “contiguous palestine state” which would mean dividing Israel in half.

Barack Obama’s comments were made before a gathering of more than 7,000 delegates at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) 2008 Policy Conference revealing much about his true attitude towards Israel and the not-so-secret agenda of his foreign policy advisors.

‘”Let me be clear,” Obama declared to his pro-Israel audience, “Israel’s security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable. The Palestinians need a state that is contiguous and cohesive, and that allows them to prosper – but any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel’s identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders.”

A careful parsing of the passage suggests that either he was calling for all Palestinian towns on the West Bank to be linked territorially, something that already exists, or more likely that in any final peace deal Hamas-controlled Gaza must be connected to the West Bank via a land bridge.

‘In fact, the Obama statement was a reformulation of a key Palestinian demand that if implemented, would erode not only the geographic continuity of the Jewish State, but could undermine its security as well.

“The Palestinians need a state that is contiguous and cohesive?” It demonstrates a conspicuous break with longstanding American policy.

Fatuous

If someone is being fatuous , I say so, not mince my words. If it hurts that person, too bad. And if i`m “pompous” because that person is hurt, why then, so be it.