Abdullah should direct the 54 BN MPs to cut short their “blur blur” agriculture study tour of Taiwan

Malaysia’s image and international standing are trampled upon and “rubbished” by the 54 Barisan Nasional MPs currently on a “blur blur” agriculture study tour of Taiwan as they are been tracked by the Taiwan print and electronic media as if they are bizarre or exotic creatures from a strange land if not from another planet.

Instead of conducting themselves as proud elected representatives of a nation held in high esteem in international circles, the 54 BN MPs are caught in a hide-and-seek with journalists as if they are fugitives from justice or agents of rogue nations as they are unable to give a honest and honourable explanation of the real purpose and reason for their sudden trip to Taiwan.

A Guang Ming Daily columnist has rightly coined the phrase “mong cha-cha” or “blur blur” tour to describe BN MPs junket to Taiwan, for the BN MPs were in a “blur” when summoned by SMS to submit their passports for the “trip to nowhere” as the country destination was not known and undecided, “blur” when they boarded the flight and continue to be “blur” when they landed in Taiwan.

The 54 BN MPs know that they have become a laughing stock in Taiwan and a standing joke wherever they go in the island republic. As a result, they cannot hold their heads high when appearing in public in Taiwan.

As MPs who should be Malaysian nationalists and patriots first and last, shouldn’t they do what is right – cut short their “blur blur” Taiwan trip so as not to prolong Malaysia’s shame and disgrace in Taiwan every day they are in Taiwan?

They should abandon the “blur, blur” agricultural study tour of Taiwan if they are not to be known as “blur blur” MPs not only for the rest of their elected term but the remainder of their lives.

In fact, the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi should issue an immediate directive to recall the 54 BN MPs to cut short their “blur blur” agriculture study tour of Taiwan and return immediately to demonstrate that the BN has nothing to fear about “916” since BN leaders have repeatedly claimed that the BN MPs’ junket to Taiwan was not meant to derail Anwar Ibrahim’s “916” plan.

Apart from sparing the nation from continuing infamy in Taiwan and international shame as well as BN’s “fatal obsession”: with 916, there are many other reasons why the BN MPs’ “blur blur” agricultural tour of Taiwan should be truncated, such as the fasting month for Muslims, the Moon-cake festival for Malaysian Chinese and most important of all, September 16 as Malaysia Day not only for Sabahans and Sarawakians but for all Malaysians as well!

  1. #1 by ktteokt on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:29 pm

    I am waiting to see the report of their “agricultural trip” which required them to bring along their golf gear! One of Taiwan’s famous dishes is “sweet potato porridge” and they grow a lot of sweet potatoes. Have our MPs gone there to learn how to plant sweet potatoes?

  2. #2 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:30 pm

    malaysia is now an exporter of exotic or bizzare creatures. yb, you really have a way with words. they will be treated with bo bo cha cha while in taipeh. haha.

    since dsai have announced the defer of 916, i believe they will be back by next week for the tanglung festival, and eat kacang . and bo bo cha cha to the tune of cha cha mambo.

  3. #3 by pizi87 on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:31 pm

    we are made a laughing stock again!

    blur blur because the PM is blue blue meh

  4. #4 by hosengloong08 on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:31 pm

    Eh,,,the blur blur trip can plant what le?

  5. #5 by hosengloong08 on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:35 pm

    I am totally agree with you Adam.
    BO BO cha cha ngam ngam.

    our country in a mess and lot wild license animal planting weird plant( which later declared non profit and diam diam nia lo as always.)

  6. #6 by zheng on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:36 pm

    I think that’s no country in the world would send “54” MP to other country just for the purpose of agriculture study. This tour is really make all malaysian “shame” to the world. This make an indication to the world that Malaysian people are so stupid that we need “54′ MP to follow up agriculture study otherwise we are not able to catch up. Soas Malaysian, I feel so shame about this MPs’ tour.

  7. #7 by anakMCI on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:38 pm

    may i suggest Badawi and BN to move the whole parlimen to Taiwan and run the country from there

  8. #8 by Mr Smith on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:40 pm

    The government is indirectly telling the whole world that it is weak and it cannot trust its law-makers. It is a afraid that it will fall.
    Which investor is going to come to a ‘frightened’ country.

  9. #9 by PureMalaysian on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:49 pm

    Wasting our precious Rakyat’s hard earned cash! Blardy hell!

    And with Taiwan’s media being so aggressive and a land of total freedom of speech – I think the BN goons are regretting going Taiwan now – they should have gone to Zimbabwe, where there wont be so much “media coverage”! ;)

  10. #10 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:53 pm


  11. #11 by Freddy on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 12:54 pm

    it has got to be so funny that ‘the god is laughing in taiwan’ as measured by the 6.1 richter scale earthquake


  12. #12 by Damocles on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:00 pm

    Uncle Lim, it’s gratifying to see them making a fool of themselves!
    No need for us to do it!
    Next time anyone of them go overseas, they’ll be pointed out as freaks!
    If that doesn’t make them resign from political life, I don’t know what will!

  13. #13 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:01 pm



  14. #14 by AhPek on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:05 pm

    What will this brainless PM think of next??

  15. #15 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:08 pm

    Freddy Says:

    Today at 12: 54.03 (7 minutes ago)
    it has got to be so funny that ‘the god is laughing in taiwan’ as measured by the 6.1 richter scale earthquake


    Imagine when they tried putting the golf ball on the seen lol!

  16. #16 by sani on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:09 pm


    They might as well just stay put in The Republic of China…….for good.

  17. #17 by GodFromHeaven on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:15 pm

    Why Suddenly we need 54 Agricultural Minister????????????

  18. #18 by Freddy on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:17 pm

    AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked Says:
    Today at 13: 01.08 (14 minutes ago)

    namewee currently back in muar. try to catch him at muar halo cafe lah ….


  19. #19 by boh-liao on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:29 pm

    Taiwan newspapers must be having a great time reporting on this group of BN MPs!
    BN = ‘Bo Now’ (Hokkien or Min Nan way of pronunciation in Taiwan means ‘No Brain’, kepala kosong), just nice, ngam-ngam!

  20. #20 by Yee Siew Wah on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:30 pm

    After reading some of the bloggers comments, I laughed till I dropped. What a bunch of clowns we have now in Taipei.
    The people of Taipei were so mesmerized on these clowns.
    Probably these clowns also caused the 6.1 earthquake in Taipei recently. I suggest the people of Taipei, caged all these clowns, throw them in a cargo military plane and send these clowns back to Malasia jungle before further damage is done. And it will be real fun to have the Orang Asli welcome them
    Our sleepy flipflop and Mr.C4 have really made Malaysia the BIGGEST laughing stock to the WHOLE WIDE WORLD. Not to forget that they are supposed to be the No. 1 and 2 in the country. Amazing, really beat Zimbabwe great Mugabe hands down on the way they manage the country. No fight la!

    I like the part Adam WROTE:-
    “malaysia is now an exporter of exotic or bizzare creatures. yb, you really have a way with words. they will be treated with bo bo cha cha while in taipeh. haha.
    since dsai have announced the defer of 916, i believe they will be back by next week for the tanglung festival, and eat kacang . and bo bo cha cha to the tune of cha cha mambo.”

  21. #21 by kanthanboy on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:32 pm

    54 Barisan National MPs go to Taiwan for agriculture study? Don’t they know that Malaysia does not recognize degree from Taiwan’s universities? Why not just send them to do the study at University Pertanian in Serdang?

  22. #22 by kanokporn on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:36 pm

    dear sir, even if this trip is “legal” somehow it smacks of lack of morality to the people who voted these people in. come to think of it, is it correct for the chinaman chairman of the bbc to fund all these 50 over people for an overseas trip on agfriculture rather than to spend the money into looking for solutions to the country’s immediate problems, namely education, racial polarisation,floods and traffic woes and a whole host of others.pls name these people so that we will know who not to vote in the next by election or election. in fact all these 50 over people should be considered as having resigned from the role that they are supposed to carry out although they do not hold specific positions in the govt. shameless group of people. are there any women included in this trip?

  23. #23 by shocked on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:45 pm

    after all this, they still thinks we the rakyat are a no brainer…

    “maybe they are too stupid to know that we know that they are too stupid to know…”

    stay tuned…we might just be seeing some taiwan sexy roadside betel nut girls being blown in to a million pieces…

  24. #24 by yhsiew on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:48 pm

    Did not Syed Hussin Ali of PKR said BN MPs who wanted to crossover to PR had already signed and submitted an agreement in black and white to PR? So, what is the use of going for the agriculture study tour to Taiwan?

  25. #25 by wanderer on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:52 pm

    A 6.1 richter scale quake, 54 kerbau MPs must be happily rocking in bed! Beware evil minds, this is the first warning from Almighty. You still need to return home, fasten your seat belt well!

  26. #26 by chinymin on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 1:57 pm

    Those who have Taiwan friends can observe what they do and give some hints…
    And when they bring naught back, they will justify ok, because they didn’t use our money. They use their club’s money. So ok!!

  27. #27 by ktteokt on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:05 pm

    This time around BN has really invoked the wrath of the Almighty! Even their Taiwan trip may be spoilt by such a serious earthquake! Bet the “chickens” will be fleeing back way before they complete their “agricultural study”!

  28. #28 by milduser on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:08 pm

    A real shame to say the least. Is there any shame left in BN/Amnoo? I guess not.

  29. #29 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:10 pm




  30. #30 by anakMCI on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:15 pm

    the country is up side down

    ex PM in out in out UMNO
    PM is flip flop flip flop in his decision
    BN MPs are yes no yes no to Pakatan Rakyat appeals

    Petrol price up down up down
    Living expenses up up up and up
    Rakyat morale down down down and down

    Changes is needed immediately!!

  31. #31 by adoionline on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:19 pm


    A spokesman from Bung Mokhtar & Tiong Official Study Tours Sdn Bhd said everyone in the group of Malaysian parliamentarians was safe, though “a wee bit shaken.” They are now encamped on the golf course waiting out the political aftershocks.

  32. #32 by Saint on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:19 pm

    Saudara Kit, can it be arranged to get a seies of photographs of what they are doing and circulated locally? Maybe some Malaysian students there? It will be indeed great.

  33. #33 by pakmang on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:27 pm

    Taiwan Academic Qualification is still not recognized by the Malaysian Government, why these MP are going there for agricultural study?

    They are really creating double laughing stocks….runaway from DSAI and do agricultural study at the wrong place? hahaha.. The one who approved the trip is totally brainless!

  34. #34 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:34 pm

    When the legendary American bank robber Willie Sutton once was asked why he robbed banks, he famously replied: ‘That’s where the money is.’

    Government in Malaysia is where the money is, and that is where UMNO intends to stay despite its disastrous March 8 election results, which cost the national ruling coalition the two-thirds hold on parliament it has enjoyed for half a century.

    by John Berthelsen
    Source: Asia Sentinel Consulting

    July 21, 2008

  35. #35 by oknyua on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:37 pm

    blur..blur… YB Lim, your usage of Malaysianised English aptly applied to the PM only. He has been blur-blur in his leadership since he came to power in 2004, but we tolerated him not out of choice. Now his “blur-blur” leadership has infected the rest of the MPs. It is obvious to remove this “blur-blur” syndrome, he has to leave the administration first.

    Save Malaysia by getting rid of the blur-blur PM. The economy has suffered. Enough of him. UMNO and other BNs must love Malaysia more than to support a blur-blur PM.

  36. #36 by Emily Pratt on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:40 pm

    Maybe our brother who composed the “Negarakuku” song can make a song about these MPs visit.


  37. #37 by taiking on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:45 pm

    Now who is responsible for exporting what is merely a national issue to the international arena?

  38. #38 by yhsiew on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:53 pm

    BN should stop washing dirty linen in a foreign country as it will only bring more shame to Malaysia.

  39. #39 by kerajaan.rakyat on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 2:56 pm

    Dear YB Lim,

    Haiya, wa ale lengar itu cilita.
    Wa lengar ale 54 eko monyet sama belok
    ade peligi Taik wan.

    Lia olang bikin buang uwang.
    Itu awang Lakyat punya ooo.

    Cilaka punya itu Abodola.
    Wa mau kan sama lia.


  40. #40 by homeblogger on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 3:18 pm

    They have gone to Taiwan to learn about agriculture because by the time BN are through with our economy, we will have to revert to agriculture being our ONLY source of income – if we are lucky.

    I would think that is very forward thinking and good future planning don’t you? I have my changkul and watering can ready.

  41. #41 by ahkok1982 on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 3:34 pm

    aih, BN goons always telling other people to mind their own business when they comment about wacky Malaysian politics but then now BN exporting wacky politics to Taiwan by the dozens…

    Until now, there has been no news about what those 54 MPs are doing there nor where they are actually going to study agriculture. Is the itinerary still not out yet? Go to Taiwan and then knock on the Ministry of Agriculture of Taiwan to ask if they can visit, is it?

    Dont need to go all the way to Taiwan la… Just balik kampung tanam jagung la…
    Anyone with family, relatives or friends in Taiwan should get them to follow these MPs around and take their photos or videos to post them online. Let the whole of Malaysia or the world see what these 54 parasites are doing there.

  42. #42 by Godfather on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 3:38 pm

    The itinerary is very straightforward.

    10 a.m. Breakfast
    1 p.m. Lunch
    3 p.m. Audio-video session (brainwashing lah)
    4.00 p.m. Golf (9 holes only)
    7.00 p.m. Dinner
    10.00 p.m. Karaoke

  43. #43 by Rocky on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 3:52 pm

    sooner or later they will be back. DSAI take over the gomen when they are back. bloody fed up with Pak Lah and UMNO and BN!!!

  44. #44 by loonyew on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 4:20 pm

    Wasting money….

  45. #45 by BNgetOUT on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 4:23 pm

    Najib must answer to the rakyat how much was spent on this Taiwan tour!

  46. #46 by tansritun on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 4:36 pm

    IMHO I believe there are a few reasons why these stupid MPs are
    overseas. First of all, everybody know that they are trying to
    thwart the 916 Tsunami !
    I believe the second reason (and most important) are these BN MPs
    are there in Taiwan to “collect collect collect” what the BNs had
    promised them if they don’t defect to PR ! If they do it in our own
    country it’s too obvious, they drop the Aussies idea becoz of the
    2XMuhammad’s prevoius experience…..so the best choice is Taiwan.

    I suspect these are the reasons why there a few groups going at
    different times. The earlier groups are the “recipients”, the latter
    groups are the designated “Santa Claus” !

    I might be wrong…..and I hope I’m wrong because if I’m proven
    correct then these MPs are selling their souls and bodies to
    the dying BN

  47. #47 by Anak Msia on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 4:39 pm

    YB, i suggest AAB not to pull them back, but instead ask DSAI to go over there to scare the shit out of AAB.

  48. #48 by wizzerd on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 4:47 pm

    Apparently, this trip had been ‘planned’ long before and has absolutely nothing to do with 916,,so???what is the itinerary?

    BBC chairman, Tiong KS is blur
    Bung Mokhtar is blur
    AAB is blur
    Najib is blur
    54 MPs lagi blur

    Don’t talk abt the objectives of this trip, they don’t even know the programme/itinerary. I guess they will be holed up in the hotel, waiting for instructions for the next 10 days.

    Play golf and sing song only?..what a dumbass trip this is?

  49. #49 by wizzerd on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 4:49 pm

    Chua Soi Lek ‘s son is also part of the infamous 54 BN MPs delegation.
    Hmm…probably he can learn a thing or two about Taiwan’s sex scandals.

  50. #50 by boh-liao on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 5:08 pm

    Why did BN MPs go to Taiwan to study agriculture?

    Because of the following reasons, all hidden in the word ‘agriculture’ which can be rearranged to:

    I Rectal Guru
    Girl U Ar Cute
    U R A Cute Girl
    U R A Cruel Git
    I C Ultra Urge
    Liar Cut Urge

    (Anagrams for ‘agriculture’)

    Now you know what the BN MPs are doing in Taiwan in September 2008.

  51. #51 by sheriff singh on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 5:27 pm

    Golf sets? Hmmmm!!!

    They have all gone to the 19th hole to sow some oats. Or get sowed.

  52. #52 by just a moment on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 5:32 pm

    what’s in Taiwan?


    Taipei Times
    Malaysian politicians fly into Taiwan amid strife

    Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008, Page 4
    The Malaysian ruling party flew more than a third of government lawmakers to Taiwan on Monday in a hastily arranged trip, ostensibly to study farming techniques.
    But the trip was widely interpreted as a government effort to try to stop lawmakers from shifting their support to Anwar Ibrahim.

    Taiwan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) yesterday said the Malaysian lawmakers will not conduct any official business or meet any high ranking Taiwanese officials on their trip.

    “MOFA welcomes them to Taiwan and will be happy to offer any assistance that the lawmakers might need,” said MOFA spokesman Henry Chen (???).

    Eg, other fun fill joints etc..?

  53. #53 by chinymin on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 5:37 pm

    The Star online: “Umno has suspended Bukit Bendera division chief Datuk Ahmad Ismail for three years over his alleged racist remarks about the Chinese”.
    Is it good enough?

  54. #54 by devilmaster on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 6:11 pm

    3 years only for stirring up racial violence???

    Ah Koon now can pull Gerakan out from BN with a good reason. No point staying inside.

  55. #55 by max2811 on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 6:17 pm

    The UMNO Gov should let the MPs come back and let them defect if they want to. When this happens, Parlimen should be dissolved and snap election called.

    This should end the unstable political atmosphere and efforts to develope the country can be carried out. Msia needs a new agenda. If the voters want UMNO, so be it. The majority wins and the non Malays will just have to wait to be recognised as legitimate citizens of Msia.

    I find the calls of an apology sickening. Why ask a moron to apologise? Let him be and let the police handle the case.

    Why bother if UMNO suspends him for 3 years? We are not the MT of UMNO. We can’t dictate. We just accept. If one is not satisfied, then you vote otherwise.

    The graph has been on the downturn. TDM wants to rejoin UMNO. Where is Msia heading to? Do we need to depend on UMNO? We have a choice. Let’s be quick about it.

  56. #56 by hkh on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 6:23 pm

    Let’s think outside the box.
    1. This trip is a world record of sorts. 1/4 of a country’s parliamentarian disappearing to another country. Malaysia Boleh!
    2. They will all be ‘tiong-ed’ and ‘bung-ed’, but in the end still decide to join PR- DSAI’s new vision for Malaysia.
    3. Meanwhile, we are entertained by the 13 plus one aimless losers whose gravy train has been swept away by the 308 tsunami.

  57. #57 by tuanlokong on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 6:43 pm

    After this trip all our Agriculture Officer are going to be Train in Taiwan ka? Not bad also… I guess they are better than us in Oil Palm or Potato farming…

  58. #58 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 6:58 pm

    dear godfather,

    sahul is 5.30 am. breakfast salah time la.
    taiwan same time zone with malaysia ma.

    so long time with your partner amat kasim and still get it wrong man. mix up with the wrong guy and see happen !!!!!.

    apologise la.

  59. #59 by hadi on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 7:04 pm

    We have ‘Blur Blur’ BN MPs and Malaysia too has “Blur Blur” Armed Forces Chief. He deserves the warning given by PAS youth leader. -Stay out of politics-If it is true of his concern and sincerity, no body will stop him from walking into PM or DPM office…..tell both these men off….period.

  60. #60 by taxpayer on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 7:31 pm

    To the people who voted these 54 mps, you are just as idiotic as them. Next time don’t be so silly to leave your future in the hands of these people.

  61. #61 by butul on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 7:32 pm

    More of an ‘A-greedculture’ organised by UMNO,

  62. #62 by Loh on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 8:25 pm

    Sorry off topic

    Comments on Social Contract 3 by TDM appearing in CheDet.com 10/Sept 2008

    ///1. I am sorry to have to revert to the social contract issue again because of some disturbing development.

    2. Young Malays, including professionals are said to have espoused liberalism and meritocracy. They question the need for affirmative action and the New Economic Policy. They believe that the Malays should compete with the other races. If they fail then they do not deserve the dominant role in the politics of Malaysia. They should accept non-Malay leadership of the country.///–TDM

    I am proud of the Malays who think that life is individual responsibility and the agenda in life should be decided by the people themselves. The sense of pride and shame should relate to oneself. As society progress, it should be the collective efforts of people, government and the society in general to provide assistance to the needy without regard to their colour, creed or religion. That should prevent opportunities use the mechanism of divide and rule to hijack the role of government for serving their private purposes.

    ///3. This view of the young Malays sounds refreshing. Unfortunately these liberal Malays are in a minority. The majority of the Malay professionals and young Malays have hardened their stand on the position of their race since the disaster of 2008. They are incensed especially by the arrogance of the Bar Council. They now question the social contract and reject the need to adhere to it. This sounds almost like the Chinese stand. But the difference is startling and disturbing.///–TDM

    TDM did not conduct a survey and can hardly be believed to know whether the liberals were in the majority or in the minority.. It is not known why young Malay professionals should be incensed by the Bar Council’s actions which wanted to revive the moral and legal authority of the role of the judiciary. The action of the Bar Council to organize discussion of conflicts of laws regarding religions served the need of the legal professionals. If the Malay professionals should take the action of the Bar Council as an excuse to question social contract and reject the need to adhere to it, then they are mixing irrelevant issues. That if true shows only that the professionals might be trained, but not educated. It is not true that the Chinese reject the social contract or refuse to adhere to it. To the Chinese, the social contract is represented in the original constitution of Malaya, including Article 153 which had the provision for a review. The Chinese reject the claim by UMNO that the amended constitution could be considered the original contract.

    ///4. They disagree with the Tunku giving the one million citizenship without regard for the conditions for getting citizenship.

    5. They say before this the Malays made up the majority of the citizens. They could rule the country by themselves. But the Tunku reduced this Malay majority until they have to depend on non-Malay support. To them the humiliation they are facing are entirely due to the Tunku.

    6. This act by the Tunku is part of the social contract. They reject it and they demand that the Tunku’s action should be considered to be against the constitution and should be rejected. They demand that the citizenship given by the Tunku should be withdrawn or nullified.///–TDM

    TDM has not conducted a survey to ask for the opinion of the Malays how they feel on the above observations. They could not be the considered opinion of Malay professionals other than TDM himself. TDM has simply written up the above three paragraphs to claim that it was how the Malays think. It is TDM who holds those views, and TDM claims that they are the views of the Malays. His Malay readers agree to whatever he says, and soon it becomes public opinion. That is how TDM mould the opinion of Malays. When the gets a few thousands comments agreeing to whatever he writes, then he is claiming that the country is at the brink of destruction, and he has to replace PM AAB to save it. TDM is dangerous.

    ///7. They also question the other concessions given the non-Malay communities, especially the schools and the use of other languages.///—TDM

    There are 60,000 Malays in Chinese schools, and they are happy to be given the opportunity to learn another widely used language, the Chinese, in the world. The defeated UMNO candidate in the recent Permatang Paul by-election claimed that it was his father’s greatest gift to him to be educated in Chinese school. The education issue had been settled after 51 years with Najib claiming that he cares for all communities citing education policy as his proof, TDM consider it proper to raise the settled issue to provoke Malays. TDM is willing to let the country burn so that he stands a chance to be UMNO decision maker again! Only the teaching of science and mathematics in English remains controversial with almost all teachers and parents disagreed with it. But TDM is happy watching the people suffer, rejoicing at his power of destruction to the country.

    ///8. In short they seem to reject the social contract altogether and to go back to the situation before the leaders of the communities made their bargain.

    9. Questioned as to what would happen if the British refused to give independence, they suggested that the Malays resort to armed struggle and co-operation with a neighbouring country. They suggested that we should have formed Melayu Raya together with this neighbouring country.///–TDM

    TDM has wild imagination and he attributes it to the ideas of Malay professionals. He further claims that they form the majority. If after spending a fortune of the country resources at educating them, the products should hold those views, TDM as the PM for 22 years should hang his head in shame. Certainly these are not the views of Malay professionals. Otherwise, the Malays would now want to be part of Indonesia without having to fight the British. Who then would decide the use of billions of oil money? TDM thinks that the Malays are fools, and so NEP should continue. He still hopes to see that Malays are stupid.

    ///10. I must admit the retrogression of their viewpoint but this is becoming more current as the debate on the social contract goes on. They are particularly incensed by the Bar Council which seems to them to be questioning Malay rights according to the agreement in the social contract.

    11. So far we hear only the non-Malays rejecting the social contract. This is the first time I hear of Malays rejecting the social contract. I think the Government should handle this problem carefully. Otherwise it may become widespread and effect the fragile harmony between the different races.///–TDM

    Crocodile tears from TDM.

    ///12. I did not like putting this on my blog. But I have no access to the Government. In any case I doubt the Government would take this twist on the Social Contract seriously. Dato Seri Abdullah would deny that anything is happening.///—TDM

    I too cannot submit these as comments to CheDet.com. I did receive an email reply telling me to click on the link to comment. It never worked.

    ///13. Malaysia had remained stable for half a century because sensitive issues were not publicly discussed. The Government now appears to practice selective freedom of speech. As long as you don’t attack the Government especially Dato Seri Abdullah you may say what you like whether racist or seditious. But if you attack the Government or Dato Seri Abdullah every effort would be made to silence you or to keep you out of the news.///—TDM

    For 22 years TDM could not mould the people to desensitize any issue between races, he has failed miserable as a PM. It is clear now that it was never his intention to barging the nation up on the social and economic ladder. He wanted the country to be stagnant so that he could be the emperor all the time, including the opportunity to pull string behind his son’s throne!

    ///14. The selective freedom is stirring up racist feelings everywhere. Hence the remarks made by the State Assemblywoman from Perak and Dato Ahmad Ismail in Penang. And now we see the support given to Ahmad and his condemnation of MCA and Gerakan leaders by all the 13 UMNO divisions in Penang.///–TDM

    The antics had stayed this long with Ahmad Ismail refusing to apologize and end it earlier because TDM provided support to him in CheDet.com

    ///15. I believe racist sentiments among Malays and non-Malays are rising. If it flares up the stability of this country may be affected permanently. We may see political wrangling of the kind we see in several other countries. In the process the economy of this country would be destroyed.

    16. This slide must be stopped. No one should disregard the obligation to uphold the social contract.

    17. That understanding between the leaders of the three races had served us well. So has the ban on questioning certain provisions in the Constitution.///–TDM

    People who read only these three paragraph would have thought that he is a statesman. Is he?

    ///18. I had tried during my time to balance the treatment of the different races. I had been labeled a racist before. But towards the end of my tenure the Chinese in particular supported me. But throughout I never forgot my obligations to the Malays.///—TDM

    It is race politics that require balancing all the time where might is right. If TDM has allowed justice and fairness to prevail, all issues will be decided as right or wrong, and not Syed or Wong. But to retain NEP, race politics has to be preserved. NEP is required so that cronyism will stay.

    ///19. Dato Seri Abdullah has tried to placate everyone. He has given one billion Ringgit here, one billion Ringgit thereinggit there; he has given unknown sums of money to Tun Salleh Abbas and the other judges who had been dismissed in order to placate the Bar Council, he has promised billions of Ringgit for numerous corridors, billions for transport, lower oil prices etc etc. But no one believes him because the promises and fund allocations have not materialised. The fact is that nobody believes him or trusts him. No one has been placated.

    20. The racialist trend will continue. I frankly don’t think Dato Seri Abdullah can handle it.

    21. What is the solution? Right thinking people must make their rejection of Dato Seri Abdullah’s leadership heard. If we don’t then whatever racial harmony that exist would be eroded and will destroy this beloved country.///—TDM

    He might have another paragraph, to claim that only TDM is the saviour of the race and religion, and may be the country so that non-Malays can pay taxes. He takes it as self explanatory and thus has not included it.

  63. #63 by malaysia_joker on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 8:36 pm

    This incident showed me just how nonsense are our BN politician.
    Sending Monkeys to Taiwan, what can we expect them to bring back? bananas maybe.
    BN, you are embarrassing all the Malaysian.

  64. #64 by jabber on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 9:04 pm

    The BBC is taking all the 54 MP to learn ‘A-Greed-Culture’ from previous Taiwan President Chen on how to do money laudering with their country’s reserve all these years. Then they come back to report to AAB and brief him on how.

    The BBC, Bung Mukhtar said after LONG preparation since early this year to CHINA and then because of VISA problem, they change to Taiwan?? LONG PREPARATION MY ASS for 5 months?? my father had his visa in just a week.. THEY JUST SCARE OF MPs CROSSING OVER.. face the fact BN!!

    AAB, you are weak !! you even scare of Ahmad Ismail.. he should be investigated under ISA, not just suspended for 3 yrs. anyhow, he’ll be back for NEXT GENERAL ELECTION !!! BAN FOR 2 TERMS !!

    we don’t care of the instabilize Malaysia after PR, we just want to know the truth of BN’s monopoly after 51 yrs administration. Corruption, unfair justice, divided racial policies, and abuse of power among all the BN MPs.. We should learn from Taiwan, they have 2 strong ruling party, who wins the election rules. Not by threatening words. I would like to see mature Malaysia. I’m not supporting PR, I voted for BN. I just feel that BN is so weak and fragile now with its own internal issues. so sad..

  65. #65 by nonymous on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 9:08 pm

    What a joke! Why sent all 54 just to do the study on agriculture alone? How about other fields? Why they choose Taiwan alone?

    I would predict that our PM may soon change his mind to inform the public that those ‘blur blur sotong’ MPs also went for the studies on other fields…let us wait and see what so special about these studies! What difference could they made after their studies?

    Perhaps the BN Government should not waste our tax payers’ money and we could save some taxes for our own trip to overseas instead. Why should we pay for all these nonsense? What the hell!!!

  66. #66 by bystander on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 9:21 pm

    3 years is just a slap on wrist, so to speak. Hindraf 5 did nothing wrong and got isa for indefinite period without trial. idiot racist ahmad made seditious statements and got only 3 yaers suspension , NOT ISA. what triple racist standard. its just a show by umno la to calm things down a wee bit. just see how soft they are on their own kind. MCA and gerakan must pull out, stupid.

  67. #67 by LBJ on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 9:36 pm

    Malaysian BN MP was reported to have visited Shangrila Leisure farm in Yi Lan. See the info of this place on the internet. I dont see any farm or high tech production. I just don not see how they learn anything about agriculture here.

    About Shangrila Leisure Farming Yi Lan Taiwan (3 Star)
    The Shangrila Leisure Farm has European style romantic vacation villa located in the forest, all buildings made by whole log, have beauty of hill extremely, can also participate in a series of creative activities while spending holidays here : such as rubing the stuffed dumplings with the hands, the match of playing whirligig, putting the light on day and praying for blessings etc., to experience the rural delight of life, enjoy the entirely different warm memory from countryside.Shangrila Leisure Farming provides a peaceful and relaxing environment for families, business groups or holiday makers.

  68. #68 by LBJ on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 9:37 pm

    Do’s and don’t’s For BN MPs On Study Tour In Taiwan

    1.. Malaysia do not have diplomatic relation with Taiwan. We only have trade and cultural link with Taiwan. YBs on this trip are NOT on official business. The one China Policy do not allow Malaysian official visit to Taiwan. China will be very unhappy if you say you are on official visit.

    2. Do not call Taiwan China. Do not call the people Chinese. You will make our China friends very angry.

    3. Do not break any Taiwanese laws. Remember, you are a private citizen in Taiwan It can be hard to take you out of the jail since we do not have diplomatic representation in Taiwan.

    4. Taipeh had switched of the red light district. Do not go looking for it. MCA do not mean mana cari ayam.

    5. Do not use the word “pendatang”. Most of the Taiwanese migrated from China. They may get upset with you. See rule 3

    6. No! Sarawak MPs cannot bring their chain saws. Taiwan has very strong forest conservation. Sarawak MPs are not encouraged to cut the trees with their chain saws. See rule 3.

    7. You cannot go in a frenzy and tear photos of Taiwanese leaders. See rule 3.

    8. “Bochor” is not stylo enough for BN MPs. . Pick up some VCDs or DVDs on how to fight in parliament. There may be hope for you in the next parlia

  69. #69 by LBJ on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 9:49 pm

    Sorry. One more note. The only farm in the Shangila Leisure Farm is in its name.

  70. #70 by Cinapek on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 9:54 pm

    How about adding “stupid” to “blur blur”?

    The BNBBC claims that the trip was planned two months ago as a denial that they were trying to avoid 916 yet admit that they decided on Taiwan as the destination only two days ago. Who in their right minds would decide on the trip first and then only figure out at the last minute their destination? And for such a big group of people? Only fools and liars would do such things. Surely if you had decided on the trip and the purpose, you must determine the destination in order to plan the itinerary to maximise and justify the huge expenses that is going to be incurred.


  71. #71 by yhsiew on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 10:01 pm

    As political tensions have risen, investors have been unnerved. The cost of insuring Malaysia’s debt has risen sharply to around $134,536 per $10 million of debt from $90,185 prior to the March election, based on prices for 5-year credit default swaps a barometer of risk. – YAHOO ASIA NEWS.

    DSAI has to act fast to accomplish his “916” project so as to put the country back on a healthy economic growth path.

  72. #72 by LBJ on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 10:05 pm

    I read this in the mysinchew.com and cannot stop laughing.

    The reporter has my respect. I quote:

    “Shangrila Leisure Farm is located on the foothill of Dayuan Shan in Yilan county. According to the farm’s website, it is approximately 250 metres above sea level, and with an average year-round temperature of 25 degrees Celsius, it makes a perfect classroom to learn about nature, with rare animals such as macaques, tree frogs, fireflies, butterflies and a rich variety of plants.”

  73. #73 by KennyGan on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 10:08 pm

    So these 54 MPs have become a laughing stock in Taiwan. Serves them right. We Malaysians will also know what they do there courtesy of the Taiwan press.

  74. #74 by justice_fighter on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 10:18 pm

    Dear Uncle Lim,
    is KJ the ‘secret person’ who sponsors this trip?…I’m very curious to know ;-)

  75. #75 by LBJ on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 10:26 pm

    MP for Sarikei Ding Kuong Hiing said he loved Taiwan’s dragon fruit and hoped to learn more about its agriculture.

    He is an idiot. Malaysia has a well established dragon fruit growing and marketing industry. Fruit export, dragon fruit wine, dragon fruit concentrate, etc.

    We dont need to go to Taiwan to learn about dragon fruit. Lame excuse.

  76. #76 by owlz on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 10:30 pm

    Why this 54 BN MPs need to go to Taiwan just for
    learn an agriculture? And why need until 54 MPs,
    not 10 of them, 20 of them? Its useless and
    really wasting. Isnt that even three persons of
    brilliant MPs are enough to learn the agriculture,
    and when they come back they can brief or explain
    to the Malaysians / other MPs? EERRRGGHHH!!!!
    Malaysia is already good in growing of plants
    and the raising of domesticated animals. Im a
    University of Malaya student and many of my
    friends also are taking the Biotechnology course
    here in UM. They learn the technology based on
    biology and used in agriculture, food science, and
    medicine. Why the Malaysia doesnt even want to use
    our graduates?
    We also have a Lembah Bio-tech,
    Dengkil, Sepang under Tun Mahathir already. So,
    Taiwan??? For what??? Girls? The hot and cuties
    there? Golf? Shopping? EERRGGHH!!!
    p/s: As a Malaysian young generation (Im 22 years
    old), I want to admit that I really not satisfied
    by just Ahmad Ismail’s 3 years suspension from UMNO
    membership. As a Malay Im really ashamed by him.
    As my previous posting in the “pendatang” topic,
    this moron should be thrown in the Selat Melaka
    sea. We Malay really love to develop Malaysia with
    our brothers Chinese and Indians. It just…
    only the politicians playing the flame of the
    racial sentiments.
    AAARRRGGHH!!! Its really
    sickening laaahh… Even my friends the Chinese
    also sometimes treat me a nasi lemak with teh
    tarik after our lecture in UM. Then we
    sembang-sembang cakap-cakap together about our
    family, about my preparation during Ramadhan and
    Hari Raya, about our future business plan and so
    on… Its lovely.
    Im as a muslim, even in our Holy Quran Allah has
    said, “O mandkind! We have created you from a male
    and a female, and made you into nations and tribes,
    that you may know one each other.” Surah Al-Hujurat,
    Sentence 13.

    I think those UMNO really racist politicians are not
    a good Muslims. They just using the Islam as their
    religious tools. Seriously!!!! Even in my religion,
    Islam teach us to “berbuat baik, “hormat-menghormati”
    and “memuliakan” kaum dan bangsa lain. I dont know
    how come the UMNO politicians became like this.
    EERRGGHH!!! Really-really annoying laaahh!!!

  77. #77 by yhsiew on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 10:31 pm


    The “secret person” won’t be so generous to give every BN MP a sum of RM500,000 as expense for the trip. I guess there must be a condition for accepting the money. Does it mean that once the MP takes the money then he should not crossover to PR ??!!

  78. #78 by HJ Angus on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 10:54 pm

    This trip to Taiwan is the result of AI spooking the BN leaders that they have become afraid of shadows.

    Now Anwar says he’s off to Taiwan and that probably causes more headaches and palpitations!

    Excellent guerilla politics by Anwar, if you ask me.

  79. #79 by Anak Msia on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 11:28 pm

    UMNO found AI guilty, let’s wait and see what action from the police.

  80. #80 by IloveDAPforever on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 11:37 pm

    owlz Says:

    Today at 22: 30.54 (5 minutes ago)

    p/s: As a Malaysian young generation (Im 22 years
    old), I want to admit that I really not satisfied
    by just Ahmad Ismail’s 3 years suspension from UMNO
    membership. As a Malay Im really ashamed by him.
    As my previous posting in the “pendatang” topic,
    this moron should be thrown in the Selat Melaka
    sea. We Malay really love to develop Malaysia with
    our brothers Chinese and Indians. It just…
    only the politicians playing the flame of the
    racial sentiments.


    Dear owls,

    The moron Ahmad Ismail was just shown over Spore news still stubbornly claiming he has done no wrong! He is an extremely dangerous racist trying to stir up racial sentiments to save his own skin.

    Hope there are many more moderate Malays like you out there who can see through his tricks and not to be easily swayed by his sandiwara.

    We need to be always mindful of our words & actions and treat all Malaysians regardless of colour & religion as one united people.

  81. #81 by cheng on on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 11:44 pm

    Regret send them to Taiwan, where there is so much press freedom, Taiwan media can come out with many reports which may not be good to the sender.
    Perhaps should have send them to Zimbabwe, and ask Mugabe to ban Anwar from entering Zimbabwe or cut off all contacts from PR anyway, phone, email, fax in Zim hardly works. Moreover, they can learn from Mugabe on how to deal with political opposition parties.

  82. #82 by BNgetOUT on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 11:53 pm

    Actually, I feel sorry for the likes of Ahmad Ismail. They lost everything in the last GE and are now desperately clutching at straws.

  83. #83 by kerajaan.rakyat on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 11:54 pm

    YB Lim,

    Saya benar-benar hairan dan geram. Kenapa pihak polis tidak ambil tindakan terhadap Ahmad Ismail yang jelas membakar api perkauman.

    Perbuatan double standard seperti inilah yang menyebabkan rakyat semakin tidak menghormati PDRM.


  84. #84 by panda_lonely on Wednesday, 10 September 2008 - 11:54 pm

    it is waste of money, for example, you can read it from newspaper. a lot of farmers in M’sia don’t have land to grow vegetable. if they really want to help. pls make sure there is enough lands for those hardworking farmers. they are more experiences and skillful. does not need to go to TAIWAN to study at all….

  85. #85 by cemerlang on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:01 am

    I can almost hear these BN MP whispering to one another. ” What are we doing here in Taiwan ? ” ” Learn about agriculture ” ” Why doesn’t the agriculture minister come too ? ” May be the mornings are used to do their agricultural field trips and then in the afternoon, all of them will be gathered in one room discussing about Malaysian politics. Datuk Ahmad Ismail should make this trip so that he gets to know Chineses better. It is a blessing in disguise because he shows his true colours and it means that he cannot make anymore advancement in his political career. When he said something about the Yahudi people, he did not realize he was actually referring to himself and people like him. Malay has this saying. You point your finger at someone. But four fingers are pointing back to you yourself. Datuk Ahmad Ismail judges the other races with his pointed finger. His four other fingers point back and judge him without him realizing it.

  86. #86 by homeblogger on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:20 am

    kerajaan rakyat says :

    YB Lim,

    Saya benar-benar hairan dan geram. Kenapa pihak polis tidak ambil tindakan terhadap Ahmad Ismail yang jelas membakar api perkauman.

    Perbuatan double standard seperti inilah yang menyebabkan rakyat semakin tidak menghormati PDRM.


    This is what we mean all along. Certain parties can say anything to the other 2 parties, but the other 2 parties cannot say anything to this one party because EVERYTHING is considered “sensitive issue”

    Of course there is double standard in our country. For example – in my children’s school, the WHOLE week of Hari Raya is declared a holiday. They have to attend 3 saturday classes to make up for the 3 extra holidays. Notification was given 2 months in advance, but I think it was already planned last year. But for Chinese New Year, the children were not even allowed to leave early on New Year’s eve to allow them to make the balik kampung journey. I suppose they think that we pendatang need to travel a loooooong way home so might as well not bother giving an off day. So this year, as in every year, a certain race will enjoy ONE LONG WEEK of holiday because it is their right to enjoy double standards. We teach our children right from day one in school that we MUST put up with double standards because we are pendatang.

  87. #87 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:24 am

    Anwar can’t buy over BN MPs, says Dr Mahathir:

    “I still doubt he can get the MPs to switch to his side. He thinks he can buy them but other leaders have got a lot more money. It is not possible for him to buy the leaders.”


    Taiwan delegation sponsored by the mysterious person per 500,000:

    “mysterious figure” sponsorship RM500,000 ringgit, as the trips costs. As a total of 49 members to take part in the inspection trip, therefore, the mysterious figure of the total subsidy cost of 24.5 million ringgit.


  88. #88 by kutlakut on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:25 am

    His personal advisor keeps on pointing the wrong way to go, poor fellow PM.

    And still he does not know that the same advisors are digging his grave.

  89. #89 by Blue.kinetic on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:26 am

    to my knowledge, i never see a country did like this -sending bunch of MPs to “learn” agri. I think there will be none example as the rightful thought will not do this. Why?

    a. wrong candidate. Bunch of irrevelent people and waste of money.

    b. no clear objective & justification. So far we know they go to learn agri, most probably try various of fruit and sight seeing the farm, like what we normal did for holiday trip.

    c. Taiwan’s authorities is not involved. This should be an offical trip which corroborte with Taiwan goverment – effective arangement and engaged effective study and communication.

    when we see not relevant people without a proper agenda and justification for the hasty trip in the name of Malaysia goverment without acknowledge and involvement of Taiwan’s authority, what kind of study trip is this?

    Malaysia menang boleh.

  90. #90 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:51 am

    I hear they have a budget of RM 5 million (USD 1.5 million) to contribute to the Taiwanese economy.

    What happened to cuti-cuti Malaysia?

    Will the income tax people come in to investigate the source of the money?

    Will they all write a report each about what they have learnt when they return?

  91. #91 by sirrganass on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:55 am

    Ayo! Semua orang tak tahu kah? 54 MP pergi TAIWAN sebab mereka mahu belajar cara-cara TANAM JAGUNG loh! Nanti balik Malaysia semua orang kena balik kampung tanam jagung. Faham tak?

  92. #92 by sirrganass on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:57 am

    Pakatan Rakyat boleh bersatu melihat ERA KEGEMILANGAN PAKATAN RAKYAT. Klik sini

  93. #93 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:58 am

    Now not only Malaysians know our MPs are ‘bodoh’ who can be led by nose rings; the Taiwanese now knows. It wouldn’t take a day for the rest of the world to know win our internet-driven world.

    So we have BN to thank for making malaysia look so stupid after 51 years of independence.

  94. #94 by kentutoyol on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 6:37 am

    Malaysians are waiting to view their Taiwan documentary video. This video will surely benefit our farmers and boost our agricultural sector. Just keep my fingers close and wait for their home coming.

  95. #95 by Ham on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 7:14 am

    Thanks to MR TIONG, silly excuse ” learn farming Technics”.
    In the month of Ramadan a china man lead a group of Malaysian
    Lawmakers to Taiwan armed with Golf Bags and Packs of Condoms?
    Who is Tiong trying to hoodwink here? Halal food would be a rare
    find, how come no one in the Govt query Taiwan as the preferred
    Country? Mr Tiong you are responsible for all the possible Sins your Entourage commits and brother I fear its very heavy at that.

  96. #96 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 7:18 am

    ///As MPs who should be Malaysian nationalists and patriots first and last, shouldn’t they do what is right – cut short their “blur blur” Taiwan trip///

    One can say Back benchers organisers and the trip itself to Taiwan are “moong cha-cha” or “blur blur” but the 54 BN MPs – counting amongst whom are some defectors as conceded by Anwar/PKR officials – should not be blamed….

    The ‘would be’ defectors were likely advised by Anwar not to blow their cover before September 16 : so they have to play along and go to Taiwan.

    PR should be thankful the MPs are taken on conducted tour of Shangri-La Leisure with nice temperature of 25° Celsius, landscaping, tea stands, streetlights, pebble walkways, bird nests and flower beds to carry out their pretext of agricultural study.

    It would have been worse – sweating out in some dank basement cell lit by a single bulb interrogated by Special Branch officers regarding who would defect! :)

  97. #97 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 7:36 am

    Acording to Malaysiakini report Anwar Ibrahim still insisted that his self-imposed Sept 16 deadline to form the new federal government is “very much” on track, notwithstanding “would-be” defectors are amongst BN MPs in Taiwan. He also said there will be a “surprise” on Tuesday, but did not elaborate. What is he going to do?

    PKR deputy president Dr Syed Husin Ali has confirmed the ‘Kataks’ have already signed support documents in black and white (likely with PKR only) for the defection. If they make out the numbers for a PR majority, is Anwar “surprise” going to take the form of seeking an audience with the King?

    “I believe the king is neutral in regards to political affiliations. His Majesty might want to meet the MPs in question personally to ascertain their support” Dr Syed Husin Ali added.

    see – http://politics101malaysia.blogsome.com/2008/09/08/some-frogs-taiwan-bound/

    I guess the “kataks” have also signed documents not to defect BN at the time when they were put up as BN candidates to contest 12th General Election on 8th March which conflict with their subsequent ones given to PKR just like SD1 conflicting with SD2 in P Bala’s case. In such a conflict the King might want to verify which support document – the earlier or subsequent – would prevail before His Majesty makes the determination.

    However don’t be too surprised that if our BN Back bencher club chairman and Bintulu MP, Datuk Tiong King Sing could successfully ‘brainwash’ the ‘kataks’ in Taiwan to reverse their position again, these ‘defectors’ would return to Malaysia on 17th with yet another 3rd set of documentation repudiating the support documents (for defection) given to Anwar/PKR in derailment of Sept 16 plans. Kataks will be kataks! :)

  98. #98 by pulau_sibu on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 7:48 am

    These MPs should have refused to go in the first place.

    Then cat and mice chasing can start. If Anwar flies to Taiwan, the mice will be send back right away by BN. So Anwar should buy the ticket now!

  99. #99 by k1980 on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 8:14 am

  100. #100 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 8:46 am

    This is the third world politics.

  101. #101 by oknyua on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 9:14 am

    Jeffrey, just a cautious note: How sure are you that Dato Seri Tiong is not the “katak” head? Hmm… his political history as well as personal life is not less colourful.

  102. #102 by scta on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 9:20 am

    mmm….mebe they are there to learn the ‘pinang’ industry, or to study the ‘leng-lui’ sell the pinangs by the roadside, hehehe…cuci mata lor…. ahahaha

  103. #103 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 9:29 am

    oknyua, you’re right, I’ve not thought of that angle. I superficially assume rich, well connected corporate-politico types like him will identify his interest with status quo and existing order. (I’m not familiar with the twists and turns of Sarawak real politik in relation to him). If he were really a head katak, its the best sandiwara I’ve ever seen on this 9/16 project yet. :)

  104. #104 by boh-liao on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 10:46 am

    What can we expect from ‘Ahmad Ismail’ whose name conceals the following messages?
    ‘Hi I Am A Mad SL’ (SL = sore loser)
    ‘I M Dial A Sham’

  105. #105 by taiking on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 11:14 am

    Have those mps had any dialogue with our local experts in agriculture (in Universiti Pertanian – now Putra) before making the decision to go to Taiwan? Have they exhausted all printed and online literature (local and international) on the relevant aspects of agriculture before making the decision to go? Have they tried to know and understand the subject a little bit better before going?

    I doubt so. The idea was hatched rather casually when certain bbc members got together to talk and the date for the visit was fixed in a great huff. I dont think I am too far wrong to observe that it was a decision made on the spur of the moment.

    But an exercise that involved 50 lawmakers cannot by any measure be considered small or unimportant or insignificant. Such exercise requires proper and careful prior planning and participants must be suitably equipped with the necessary basic knowledge before departing.

    If not then they would all end up in Taiwan like any other uninformed tourist. With their jaws dropped and their eyes wide opened, they would just simply be awed by the taiwanese technology and agricultural advancement.

    Of course, one should not discount totally the usefulness of that trip for it would certainly be a life enriching and eye opening experience for them. But arent these precisely the self-serving satisfaction which every tourist seeks? And our lawmakers are not there as mere tourists. They are there for a specific purpose. They are there to study and to learn from the taiwanese. The ulterior aim is so that they would be better informed and could debate a certain agriculture bill in parliament more effectively and one presumes, more meaningfully.

    The whole event just look silly to me. It would be perfectly acceptable for me as an individual to act and behave silly. But for our lawmakers and 50 of them to do so in unison that is another matter altogether.

    The public’s negative reaction towards the trip is fully justified in my view.

  106. #106 by HJ Angus on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 11:18 am

    If you watched the movie Braveheart (Mel Gibson’s portrayal of Wallace), there was an interesting scene just before the battle.

    Some Irish leader was supposed to get the Irish to fight against him and they all charged towards Wallace’s lines and then suddenly they put down their arms and hugged each other.

    So maybe that could be the surprise that Anwar will reveal. If you think about it, putting all those 49MPs in the sam place gives them more opportunity to think about their future (in PR?)

  107. #107 by oknyua on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 11:30 am

    Taiking, had this trip was organised at a different time, in a different atmosphere, I would gladly support, even donate a few ringgit if needed.

    Taiwan is second only to Israel in term of its agriculture knowledge (followed by Thailand).
    Secondly this is a step into recognising Taiwan’s qualification in Malaysia – how many taiwanese graduates with unrecognised qualification in Malaysia?
    Thirdly, taiwan – and China, what is the difference? It is an acknowledgement that Malaysia cannot survive alone and in this case, let the likes of Ahmad be forever silenced.
    Finally, it might be prudent to accept other languages in our “rasmi” column. Four billion world popn’ speaks English and almost 2 billions speaks mandarin.

    Without the political clouds involved, it should be an acceptable trip. I hope BN and Malaysians would remember this trip in future.

  108. #108 by hosengloong08 on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 11:58 am

    What is the meaning of suspension for 3 years if the lad is still so arrogant?
    OUr bolehland now in a fuk-up position alradi la.

  109. #109 by owlz on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:11 pm

    by: taiking
    Have those mps had any dialogue with our local
    experts in agriculture (in Universiti Pertanian
    – now Putra) before making the decision to go to
    Taiwan? Have they exhausted all printed and
    online literature (local and international) on
    the relevant aspects of agriculture before making
    the decision to go? Have they tried to know and
    understand the subject a little bit better before
    going? Such exercise requires proper and careful
    prior planning and participants must be suitably
    equipped with the necessary basic knowledge before
    HAAHHA!!! I agree with you Uncle taiking (Im
    still young, I call you Uncle laaahh…). In
    modern agronomy, its also include the plant breeding,
    pesticides and fertilizers activity… Nowadays
    plants also have been used to grow biofuels,
    biopharmaceuticals, bioplastics… If 54 BN MPs
    just went there without equipped, habislaaahh…
    They will totally go back to Malaysia without
    any benefit to us. EERRGGHH!!! Even my friends
    thesis here in UM involve a genetic engineering
    technology and require a really deeeeeppp damned
    understanding for almost 6 months (one semester
    laahhh). Just dont go there without any benefit
    in this current instable economy condition laaahh…

  110. #110 by LBJ on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:20 pm

    Basic lesson of farming to Malaysian MPs In Taiwan.

    The Changkul

    The changkul is the basic farmer’s tool. It precedes the golf stick by 2,000 years. The changkul is similar to the golf stick. It has a metal head and a wooden shaft. The changkul is used by the farmer to dig a hole in the ground. In way, it does the same job as a bad golfer making a hole in the ground. But, the farmer plant a seed with the hole he make.

    When the farmer dig the ground, he swing the changkul in a downward direction. When a bad golfer dig the ground, he do it in an up wide swing.

    That is all about the changkul

  111. #111 by pulau_sibu on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 12:23 pm

    So many Taiwanese industries invested in China and other Southeast Asian countries, and I wished more will be coming to Malaysia to invest and set up the factories. They are facing quite many problems in China and many switched to Vietnam in recent several years (as a matter of fact, it is difficult to deal with the people who are grown up under communism). Malaysia is an ideal place for the Taiwanese because of the language and culture (although many Taiwanese are good in English as well), but the bad policy drove them away. If you talk to them, the first thing they would tell you is about the government – they are afraid of the current government, as if anything like Indonesia against Indonesian Chinese (pai-hwa) will happen here. For whatever UMNO has done in the past, we now pay for the price.

    There are a lot of our misconceptions with Taiwan. By watching Taiwanese movies, all spoken in Mandarin, I used to think that Taiwanese is a Mandarin speaking ‘country.’ But we are quite wrong because majority of them speak Min-nan (or Hokkian as we call it). Local Taiwanese had their language/dialect freedom robbed by Chiang Kai Shek the dictator as he ruled Taiwan.

    If Anwar will become the Prime Minister and Pakatan Rakyat will become the government (we are all quite confident of this), don’t miss the opportunity to get closer to Taiwan. Taiwan universities produced so many graduates for Malaysia, yet we don’t appreciate it at all and we come out with this recognised or unrecognised degrees – what a true joke in the modern era. None of our minister can be better than the Taiwanese minister and none of our universities can be better than some of the best Taiwanese universities, yet we make a fool out of ourselves. Mahathir came out with the Look East Policy, but that was simply just half looking and not a true looking at the east, or just looking at a portion of the east.

    These 54 MPs were suggested to visit the agricultural sectors in Taiwan. I think they better also look at the high-tech sectors. There are too many things for us to learn from Taiwan, and it is no doubt too difficult for these MPs to learn any yet.

  112. #112 by kentutoyol on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 1:48 pm

  113. #113 by kentutoyol on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 1:51 pm

  114. #114 by Toyol on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 2:02 pm

    54 MP’s for a study tour? Whats wrong with the Agriculture Minister…so incompetent that he need 54 MP’s to do his job. What has the other 53 MP’s got to do with Agriculture?

    That’s why M’sia is a bankrupt country. Makes us a mockery to the world. It reflects BN way of doing things…getting 54 people to do one person’s job.

  115. #115 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 2:51 pm

    /// # ktteokt Says:
    Yesterday at 12: 29.35
    I am waiting to see the report of their “agricultural trip” which required them to bring along their golf gear! ///

    Good news, ktteokt, I have got an advance copy of the contents page of the report, and it goes like this:

    Rationale For The Study Trip

    How to prevent our MPs from crossing over to the opposition.

    (Note to self: must remember to delete the previous line and replace with the one below for the final report.)

    How to increase the yield of Pinang palm, and study how the Taiwanese make use of scantily clad girls to sell pinang nuts along the roadsides.

    Chapter 1

    How to effective clear land for cultivation using golf clubs.

    Stress the point that irons are better than woods for removing divots.

    Chapter 2

    Learn from Chen Shui Bian how to launder money.

    (Note to self: must remember to remove this in the final report.)

    Learn from the Taiwanese farmers about water irrigation and organic farming.

    Chapter 3

    Akan datang – my flight kakis are waiting to T-off now.

    Please help me complete the report…

  116. #116 by PHUAKL on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 2:59 pm

    Dear YB Lim

    May I add the following departments to my suggestion for a
    “BN University”?

    1. Department of Tourism
    Aim: to train Malaysians who can encourage foreigners to come
    to Malaysian for
    “green tourism” (more specifically, “agricultural
    tourism”). But since the Taiwanese are more advanced,
    we’ll send a Malaysian delegation to Taiwan to
    learn from their success first
    2. Department of Animal Science
    Aim: to train technicians to develop
    frogs that cannot jump or can only jump
    with great difficulty

    Phua Kai Lit

  117. #117 by cheng on on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 4:23 pm

    While most ppl in Taiwan speak Minnan dialect in everyday life, but a person who speak only Minnan and not Mandarin will go nowhere, as most official meeting, discussion etc is done in Mandarin, Many ppl do not like Chiang Kai Shek, buthe never ban ppl speaking Minnan dialect. Hakka is another popular dialect in certain area of Taiwan.
    Taiwan is more advance than Msia in many field, agriculture (small area but, enough rice for 23 million ppl), transport (bullet train, Taipei-Kaohsiung), education, higher income level, cheaper car price, etc, etc

  118. #118 by lopez on Thursday, 11 September 2008 - 10:00 pm

    Some one please informed those mps dont go hanky panky , u never know the organiser may secretly cam them up real nicely.

    Dont even go to the toilet a lone and maybe even need to do ear squats taiwan style.

  119. #119 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Friday, 12 September 2008 - 2:07 am

    lol they left the realm unguard… and the Vampire(TDM) was coming on his way through their current premier hang on the age of a cliff.

    Well done bunch of cowards, who doesn’t even dare to stand up agains our own dignity as elected leaders of a Nation.


  120. #120 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Friday, 12 September 2008 - 8:54 am

    Not to worry. At the last farm visit, each of them was given a garland of garlic to bring home…

  121. #121 by Bigjoe on Friday, 12 September 2008 - 9:01 am

    This whole objection to anti-hopping thing.

    In general against hopping but the proposal is a rush job. BN treat the legislation like office memo and can issue anything out there like pieces of trash.

    Hold BN accountable to anti-hopping law AFTER PR comes into power.. Want to bet those people who want it now will oppose it even more then?

  122. #122 by Loh on Friday, 12 September 2008 - 11:34 am

    ///Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said he was surprised over Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin’s call for him to reconsider the 2020 transition plan, saying this has been agreed upon by Cabinet and Umno.///—The Star

    PM AAB said he was surprised, and that implied that he was alert. When PM AAB said that the transition plan was agreed by Cabinet, did he mean that it was a unanimous decision. Can cabinet decide by majority vote? The same applies to UMNO supreme council decision making.

    The transition plan is UMNO matter, and the transition plan was clearly a political party issue. The Cabinet might be a venue for discussing party issue if all members belong to the same political party, UMNO. Were non-UMNO members transparent in the Cabinet in the sense that they could be seen through, and do no appear to exist when Cabinet decisions were taken. This might explain why the presence of non-UMNO members in the Cabinet had no consequence on decisions taken in the Cabinet.

    As AAB had been so used to treat Cabinet as UMNO meeting, he announced that the Cabinet asked Ahmad Ismail to apologize. If Ahmad Ismail had violated any law, he should be dealt with according to the law. The Cabinet cannot decide that a person is pardoned if he had violated the law of the land. The accused had to be charged in court, and only the court could decide whether the person was guilty, and the punishment that follows. Only a pardon board can decide on recommending for appeal, and the right authority will dispense with the pardon. The Cabinet decides all government policies, but it cannot implement them as though it is an absolute monarchy. So the Cabinet was wrong in law to direct Ahmad Ismail to apologize, and it was wrong in law in not accepting the apology of Wee Meng Chee.

    PM AAB was not surprised that Muhyiddin invited TDM to return to UMNO. What is surprising is that AAB consider TDM’s application to join, or rejoin UMNO a UMNO issue, when the UMNO supreme council decided to welcome TDM to return at the time TDM resigned and declared that he would only return when AAB is no longer the President of UMNO. I suppose AAB has to be cautious of TDM’s reentry since if AAB says that he welcomes TDM’s reentry, UMNO’s lawyers might say that it is equivalent to AAB taking action to facilitate TDM’s entry into UMNO through agreeing to TDM’s condition that AAB resigned as UMNO President. Yes, a UMNO lawyer is the second highest in command in the Judiciary, but can AAB be sure that the judge will be on his side in view of AAB precarious hold to his chair?

    AAB will now have to explain why the Supreme Council decision should not be binding. We will be happy to see AAB prevent TDM’s return. TDM will be worse for the country if he is in UMNO than outside. In fact the country would have been blessed if TDM’s father had not migrated to Malaya. Unfortunately there is no time machine to effect that change.

    UMNO should have sacked TDM at the time when he announced his resignation, but did not have the political will to do so. It was a torn that removed itself from the flesh. UMNO supreme council was happy that the problem resolved itself, and would have hoped that his son would follow suit. But the son was a fence sitter, and now the father is returning to help him achieve his ambitions, or more accurately the family’s longer term hold on the future of the country. The persons who now voice their welcome of TDM might be hedging their bet, and showing the opportunistic character since they are convinced that the 916 change is fast approaching and AAB will soon be consigned to history. They forgot that their support for TDM will haunt them for years to come.

    If AAB caved in to allow TDM to return, then all those UMNO power-has-been who are crying for AAB’s departure will be emboldened. They can always depend on TDM’s support to be readmitted should they be sacked. In a way the three-year suspension of Ahmad Ismail might be more effective them having him sacked from the party. He could return on TDM’s tailcoat long before his 3-year term is up. But then TDM is 83, and had the history of staying in hospital three times last year. How many times he is going in this year is anybody’s guess.

    AAB has the legitimate reason to say that the supreme council’s decision to welcome TDM’s reentry was only valid at that time, and would continue so if TDM had stopped undermining UMNO. TDM will have to reapply for admission which will have to be decided by the party, and the Supreme Council which has the final authority. But has AAB the number to ensure that TDM does not submit his application? Is Muhyiddin confident that he would command the require number? If he had, he might have been able to gain his position as a Deputy PM without having to team up with Tengku Razaleigh to fight the unknown battle. Kuli has everything to gain but Muhyiddin has his MITI post to lose.

    PM AAB should have aimed high to be the PM who brought change to Malaysia for the better. But he was not that ambitious and limited his sight on his family and his son-in-law. It is a wasted opportunity for himself, and the people who love Malaysia. We cannot say this of TDM who ( as devils’ advocate) suggested that Malay professional preferred joining force with a neighboring country to fight the British rather than going through the route Tunku took, with the social contract. That would mean that Malaysia would be part of another country. It is like surrendering our homeland without a fight. Why do we bother with our defense spending if that could be acceptable?

    In this 21st century when countries which believed and had history of acting on racial superiority are rejecting the old habits of suppression based on race, we still have people championing inequality based on religion as surrogate for race. He who holds this racist view should be condemned. He who manipulated racial politics for individual benefits should just enjoyed their ill gotten gain, and migrates elsewhere so that others would not suffer their bad influence. Only Anwar as PM would achieve that. May be it would be better for AAB to invite Anwar as President of UMNO.

  123. #123 by walao on Friday, 12 September 2008 - 12:59 pm

    my god…are they taking the same flight to Taiwan? So many MP even if they spilt into 3 groups in 3 different planes. What happen if “something went wrong”? So many MP inside.

    Yesterday saw the bernama news on Astro, those MP were learning how to make ” TONG YUEN” a chinese rice ball dessert. Did I hear this wrong? Can anyone justify this ? I saw this on Astro bernama chinese news around 1030pm.

  124. #124 by mincetoiletpaper on Friday, 12 September 2008 - 1:19 pm

    Why there was no 55th place for the MP’s trip? The 55th place is for PM Abdullah. He should learn up the tanam sayur cause his retirement plan had just been cut shorter.

    Why need to take till 54MPs to Taiwan just to learn tanam sayur? Is our agricultural dept lagging of manpower till needs to get all the ‘Big Big’ Mps to go learning? Is the BN implying that their MPs is so free and nothing to do?. Why those 54MPs do not have a sound mind of their own? They should rejected it like some of the BN MPs did. At least they are some among them still using brains to work.

    Is the govn going to place each MP for specialising to one crop? like 1 MP specialise Padi, 1 MP specialise Durian, 1 MP specialise Ubi kentang..?. They should be there teaching the Taiwanese how to do planting instead. Day 1 lesson: How to handle Kerbau..

    Its so obvious even the blind can see the ‘Blur Blur’. 1 Blur Blur PM sending 54 buffalos to Taiwan. Taiwan headline should read : Malaysian send Taiwan 54 improvished buffalos.

  125. #125 by ktteokt on Saturday, 13 September 2008 - 12:07 pm

    mincetoiletpaper, all of them including the PM and cabinet ministers should now learn how to plant sweet potatoes (zhong fan shu)!

  126. #126 by ktteokt on Monday, 15 September 2008 - 2:01 pm

    Anybody knows the outcome of the “Agricultural Excursion” by our MPs? Have they learnt how to plant sweet potatoes yet? Or are they already digging up the backyard of AAB’s compound and planting sweet potatoes already?

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