Malaysia in for troubled and very divisive times following the woeful lack of Prime Ministerial authority and leadership

The nation-wide furore over the derogatory, insensitive, offensive and racist speech by the Bukit Bendera Umno division chief, Datuk Ahmad Ismail, has highlighted the waste of the RM100 million spent last year on the 50th Merdeka Anniversary celebrations and the abysmal failure of the Barisan Nasional’s nation-building policy and programme.

The founding fathers of the nation would never have thought that after half-a-century of nationhood, there would still be leaders in the ruling coalition who continue to regard non-Malays as “penumpang” although their overwhelming majority are local born and even have families who have made this country their sole object of loyalty for many generations – making nonsense of the 1957 Merdeka social contract, Malaysia Agreement 1963, Rukunegara 1970 and Vision 2020 objective of Bangsa Malaysia.

Equally shocking is the woeful lack of Prime Ministerial authority and leadership in handling the Ahmad Ismail furore, illustrated by Abdullah adopting four different positions on the issue in a matter of eight days!

On 30th August, Abdullah sought to condone and excuse Ahmad’s offensive and insensitive speech, claiming that Ahmad had not “meant it”.

On 3rd September, to head off the attack from all directions both inside and outside Barisan Nasional, Abdullah agreed that his deputy Datuk Seri Najib Razak should apologise on behalf of Ahmad, with Najib conceding: “It (Ahmad’s comment) was totally unwarranted and doesn’t reflect the position and attitude of Umno or the leadership of Umno. We regret it very much.”

When Najib’s apology without any personal apology or remorse from Ahmad could not assuage public protest, Abdullah adopted a third position on September 4, declaring that he was trying to contact Ahmad to ask him to tender a personal apology. He said he should be meeting Ahmad in Penang on Saturday.

Abdullah said Najib’s apology was the “right thing to do” although the sentiment on the ground was that the apology should come from Ahmad himself.

However, Ahmad jumped the gun the very next day. After Friday’s revolt by Ahmad refusing to tender any apology on the ground that he was the aggrieved party, which was endorsed by 13 Penang Umno divisions, Abdullah backed down and adopted a fourth position.

Yesterday, Abdullah virtually did a somersault and endorsed Ahmad’s self-serving claim that his speech at the Permatang Pauh by-election had been misinterpreted by the Sin Chew reporter, that he had dealt with historical facts and that it was not a racist statement.

It is outrageous that the Abdullah could be held to ransom by an Umno division leader with the threat of open revolt not only by other Penang Umno division leaders but also from other UMNO divisions in other states, which could end Abdullah’s premiership even earlier than the June 2010 timetable he had set for himself in the power-transition plan to hand over power to his deputy Najib.

Malaysia is in for troubled and very divisive times at the woeful lack of Prime Ministerial authority and leadership to the extent he could be held to ransom by a Umno division leader to set the national agenda as to whether Bangsa Malaysia should continue to be a national objective and mission.

This is all the more shocking when Ahmad’s claim that he had been distorted and misinterpreted by the Sin Chew reporter is so specious, unconvincing and even groundless.

Two other reporters, one from Nanyang and the other from Guan Ming, had come forward with eye-witness accounts to confirm what the Sin Chew reporter had written – that Ahmad had made the derogatory, offensive, insensitive and racist reference to the Malaysian Chinese as “penumpang” in a Permatang Pauh by-election speech on August 23 and that he was not just talking about “historical facts”.

Is Ahmad able to produce any other journalists present at his speech that night who could corroborate his claim that he had not made a racist statement in referring to the Malaysian Chinese as “penumpang” who could not be trusted as Malaysians?

How can Abdullah expect to end the deepening multiple crisis of confidence in his leadership and government when he had to knuckle under to the pressure from a Umno division leader in Penang?

  1. #1 by Patek 1472 on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 4:07 pm

    A Tribute to RPK For Your Dreams. (Suatu Penghormatan kepada RPK atas Impian Mu)

    The latest news about RPK in Malaysiakini and Malaysia Today, that he would be detained under the ISA have moved me to dedicate this speech by one of the great Freedom Fighters in the world, Martin Luther King Jr. ” I Have a Dream” to him.

    (Berita terbaru tentang RPK di Malaysiakini dan Malaysia Today, bahawa beliau akan ditahan dibawah ISA telah mengharukan hati saya untuk mendedikasikan ucapan oleh seorang Pejuang Kebebasan Dunia, Martin Luther King Jr. bertajuk “Saya ada Impian” kepada beliau.)

    Let us reminiscent over it at

    (Marilah kita mengenangkan tentangnya di )

  2. #2 by kanthanboy on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 4:11 pm

    //Yesterday, Abdullah virtually did a somersault and endorsed Ahmad’s self-serving claim that his speech at the Permatang Pauh by-election….//
    Wait and see whether those MCA and Gerakan monkeys will follow Abdullah to do the somersault. Monkeys see, monkeys do.

  3. #3 by unsaid on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 4:18 pm

    YB Lim, thank you for your article!

    Following news report of the demonstration of the highest possible quantum flip flopness of a supposed leader of all malaysians ie the PM, I was absolutely devastated how can someone like him end up being our country’s premier? He is a disgrace to the nation and deserves no position in Malaysia. He has betrayed the trust and mandate of the people thinking he can drag himself out of the mess that he has created. He will forever go down in the minds of the next generation and the next and the next as the biggest mistake in Malaysian History.

    God save Malaysia!

  4. #4 by newchief on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 4:25 pm

    please don’t ever at any seconds bodowi is not stupid. from my observation, he is NOT. e.g.

    1) 100% sure 9/16 won’t happen because he had already ‘planned’ the holidays for these MPs!! he even slotted Agung’s name so that anyone who press deeper will be going against Agung’s wish and that is TOTAL ISA !!
    2) letting ahmad off the hooks. saying frankly, this ahmad Must Have The Real Power that he ignored to apologise even bodowi or najib told him to. Or it is bodowi who gave the blessings to ahmad to make such remarks during P44 in order to let the chinese and other races their actual position in malaysia is only ‘tumpang’
    3) giving personal opinion and involvement in sodomy case as a hint to the police and hospital as to what they should do against DSAI.
    4) giving personal opinion and involvement in syaitan’s saiful sumpah as a hint that SS tiada bohong!!
    5) controlling the media making sure to relay the good sides of bn and ONLY THE BAD SIDES of Oppositions
    6) giving lame excuses to the delay of fuel reduction but give no thoughts AT ALL to increase!!
    7) spending malaysia reserves with no questions ask nor ACA probe

    this is a person who will put out us to misery and hell if we let this person to continue to rule.

  5. #5 by kerajaan.rakyat on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 4:26 pm

    Dear YB Lim,

    Kalau ada orang cakap UMNO itu 50% betul,
    maka orang itu 50% tak betul kepala dia.

    Kalau ada orang cakap UMNO itu 100% betul,
    maka orang itu 100% tak betul kepala dia.

    Kalau ada orang cakap UMNO itu 100% tak betul,
    maka orang itu 100% betul kepala dia.

  6. #6 by kentutoyol on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 4:28 pm

    This ahmad is helping umno-bn to sink faster.

  7. #7 by ktteokt on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 4:29 pm

    AAB should go dig a hole somewhere in the wild and bury himself to avoid shame. If a leader cannot even control a division chief, what good is he as head of a political party, a political coalition and a nation? Step down while you have a chance to avoid any disgrace!

  8. #8 by Steven on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 4:32 pm

    As I have always believed, loyalty to a country must come from the heart as it’s the only place where you can truly feel it. If you want a citizen of a country to be loyal to her, in heart and in deeds, treat him/her as equal. I gave up my citizenship to become an Australian more than 20 years ago because I wanted to be loyal to a country that treats all her citizens equal under the constitution, irrespective of race, colours and beliefs. Sure, there may be racial bigotry in everyday life, but the laws uphold the rights and equality of every citizen. And that’s the kind of country I want my children and grand children to grow up in. It gives me comfort to know that should I be wronged, the laws are there to protect me just like it would protect all citizens of the country. And that alone makes me mighty proud and loyal to be a citizen of Australian.

  9. #9 by kerajaan.rakyat on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 4:36 pm

    Berjalan jalan sambil bersiul
    Ahmad bodoh UMNO biul

  10. #10 by homeblogger on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 4:45 pm

    unsaid said :

    I was absolutely devastated how can someone like him end up being our country’s premier?


    Because there was never a good pool of candidates to begin with.

  11. #11 by boh-liao on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:06 pm

    Umnoputras will never change their mind-set: this is their country, they are the masters, and they are the ones who can rape and plunder this country, while the other ethnic groups and poorer, disadvantaged Malays remain suppressed all the time.

    Umnoputras have been using similar lies and racial threats all these years. We need enlightened Malays to say ‘No, no, no’ to Umnoputras!

    Rough time ahead!

  12. #12 by william62 on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:07 pm

    Terima kasih YB LIm kerana sentiasa memperjuangkan nasib kami dan berani menegakkan kebenaran!
    Mana boleh macam itu. Dia yang menimbulkan isu sensitif dan menghina-hinakan kaum Cina. Apabila diminta memohon maaf , dia pula yang tuduh pemberita misintepret dia punya maksud, celaka punya orang……. jangan lepaskan orang macam itu, kerana kalau kita lepaskan dia, orang jahat yang lain aakan terikut-ikut……siap dan habislah malaysia yang tercinta ini! Tangkap dia, masukannya dalam penjara….kes ini lebih teruk daripada kes liwat!

  13. #13 by riversandlakes on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:14 pm

    Okay, that’s it. I believe we’ve all had enough of the Bodowi Administration (here, I said it finally, that he IS stupid beyond belief.

    Down with Bodowi! DSAI, we await your performance!

  14. #14 by Loh on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:20 pm

    Najib was within hearing distance when Ahmad Ismail made his offending speech, and decided that it was proper that UMNO showed its stand and apologized. PM AAB the terminal patient politically had no idea about what was happening and followed the lead of his deputy. He could be excused for his inability to do anything, since voting him into position was the fault of the party. Had he been able to do what he said he would contact Ahmad Ismail to apologize, the matter would have fizzled out. TDM sensed it his opportunity to fish in troubled water. He said the following:

    ///9. Seorang penuntut universiti Wee Meng Chee telah perlekehkan Negaraku dengan mengguna lagu Negaraku tetapi dengan lirik yang mempermainkan sembahyang dan azan orang Melayu (Islam). Azan dijadikan duet lagu cinta.

    10. Apakah mereka dikehendaki memohon maaf? Apakah pemimpin mereka dikehendaki memohon maaf? Jauh sekali. Sebenarnya Wee dipertahan oleh pemimpin-pemimpin parti Cina dan anggota Hindraf dibebaskan daripada tahanan dan ada yang dengan bebasnya bertanding dalam pilihanraya dan menang menjadi wakil rakyat. ///—TDM in

    So Ahmad Ismail suddenly found that he had support from an ex-President of UMNO. He is using the strength of a former PM to fight against the present PM, and he was right that the present PM capitulated. Ahmad Ismail in now safe. PM AAB now not suffers the loss of face not only in front of the Chinese community, but also the Malay community and others as well. Najib as a Malay knew very well that Ahmad Ismail was wrong, and there are millions others who think along the line of Najib would have agreed that Ahmad Ismail should have apologized but did not do so. The 13 Division Chiefs would have thought the same too, but they held a different position for political reasons. Otherwise out of the 14 persons, the 13 DCs and Najib, the majority would have decided that Najib was wrong. Could najib retain the moral authority to lead if the majority who voiced the opinion thought that Najib was wrong?

    It is unbelievable that a person who sat as PM of the country could not differentiate between opinion of a private person and that representing a political party. If the song writer did something wrong, it was he who had to bear the consequence. In that particular case, Wee Meng Chee apologized. That was rejected by the cabinet, rightly or wrongly. Wee represents only himself, and the community and its leaders had no responsibility for his action. Indeed if his keeper is responsible too to apologize, should God be the one to do it?

    In the case of Ahmad Ismail, his statement shows a political position held by the political party of which he is a member. Ahmad Ismail was required to apologize for making his personal opinion which hurts the Chinese community. He should be sacked from UMNO when his opinion opposed that of UMNO, and Najib’s apology should be seen as on behalf of the party for keeping members who made public utterance against the party policy. It was racist TDM who thought that the Malay community was pressured to apologize on behalf of a member of the Malay community.

    To TDM all matters are meat for political advancement. Citizens are themselves responsible for their own action. Support from members of the community would not make a wrong issue right just because there are political strength. Ahmad Ismail made seditious statement, he has to face the law and will have his say in court. No amount of support from TDM and the 13 DCs of UMNO could change the contents of his statement. Unfortunately, this is a rule by law and the AG’s decision on the matter is influenced by not only who said what, but also how many said it.

    TDM lamented that there were still some Chinese who thought that he was anti-Chinese. He was wrong. Those Chinese who did not consider him anti-Chinese were the exceptions, for exceptional reasons. There would be much fewer Chinese who did not think that he was not a racist. How would you call a person who considers that the action of an individual person is the responsibility of the leader of the race the person belong. Only a racist would come to that conclusion. Malaysians are lucky that the person of that calibre has ceased to be a PM now, after he had inflicted on the country for over a quater of a century. But we are not lucky enough to see him disappear from the scene under the Malaysian sun.

  15. #15 by HJ Angus on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:31 pm

    This story has developed very badly as it has been poorly managed.
    DPM should have asked the police to check the incident – SB do have video cameras in such places and decided if there was enough to take action.

    DPM apologises for UMNO and the government and now this guy decides to defy the top leaders.

    Seems to be a political meltdown.

  16. #16 by ChinNA on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:31 pm

    in this day and age, is there somebody who recorded the speech in recorder or mp3 device?

    Hmmmmm…. but then is it worth to dive into this topic further. What is the impact on racial harmony.

    Thin ice indeed, very thin ice.

  17. #17 by rocketintoparliment on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:35 pm

    Is a very sad day for all Malaysian.. Looking at today’s paper with Bodowi shaking hand and smiling with the racists guy. Under his leadership ( if he ever knows what leadership means ), Malaysia today is becoming more worst in terms of racial relationship & our economy is going down hill as there is no clear direction on where our economy is heading. Our so call PM is busy with his love life & busy trying to stay in power ( I really wonder why is he still staying in power when almosts 90% of malaysian has loss respect for him and wants him to resign ). I realy wonder what would our history book says of him… as i will tell my kids that he is the one who destroy Malaysia

  18. #18 by sA1nT_Jam3s on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:42 pm

    It is indeed sad that 13 divisions from Penang are unanimous in their stand..where have common sense flew to..

    Penang is a cultural mix,if the 13 divisions were from Kelantan or trengganu, it could be argued that their myopia stems from lack of exposure…but, they hail from Penang..where the cultural mix includes Thais, Myanmars, Indonesians descent etc…

    who next are the immigrants?

  19. #19 by badak on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:46 pm

    I have always said … UMNO is being very racist because of the support of MIC MCA PPP and GERAKAN.Not all Malays are racist like that AHMAD CLOWN…If they were, we won,t have PARTY KEADILAN.

  20. #20 by gofortruth on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:48 pm

    AAB’s open surrender to Abdul Ismail & his 13 UMNO divisions in Penang before the watching eyes of 27 millions of Malaysians clearly shows that we have a PM who puts his own self interest (survivor) before the interest of his party UMNO and his ruling coalition Barisan National. The way he acted on the case also painted a picture of UMNO still infested with a LARGE number if “Abdul Ismails”, so large that both AAB & Najib have to succumb. The house of UMNO is fast crumbling.

    If there is any sense & sensibility left in MCA; Gerakan & MIC and other component parties in BN, they should leave without further a do. Malaysia deserves a fresh & clean start!

  21. #21 by Food for thought on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:49 pm

    It’s not a surprised that the PM flip and flop again…as usual, changing his stance as frequent as I change my underpants…hahaha.

    The fact remains unchanged with Ahmad Ismail stirring racial sentiments and now supported by a bunch of idiotic Umno Penang politicians. Let them deny for all I care as what is black will remain black. This is definitely a very dangerous trend and I hope that Pakatan Rakyat doesn’t fall prey to this racist trap set by a racist man, afterall, playing racial politics is Umno’s forte. Let them be caught in their own game.

    Pakatan Rakyat needs to focus on the more pressing needs of the rakyat in the making of a better country for all Malaysians.

  22. #22 by gofortruth on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:53 pm

    God keeps TDM alive to watch for himself the kind of legacy he has left behind after 22 years of ruling (or fixings).

  23. #23 by HJ Angus on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:58 pm

    If there is a leadership vacuum, anyone can move to expand their boundaries.

    This is exactly what is happening. Somewhat like the black hole of Malaysian politics.
    If the other language media have any professional ethics they should report accurately as to what happened and not allow this incident develop into a Chinese press against Malay politician.

  24. #24 by gofortruth on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 5:58 pm

    I agree with “food for thought” that PR should move away from this Penang racist trap and focus on more pressing needs.
    What happens to the Audit General report?

  25. #25 by Dr.Ken on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 6:00 pm

    Malaysia is nation in Deep shit now. With a incapable Captain, this Ship is gradually sinking inches by inches.

    Infact, we need to look at the Definition of ” Immigrant “. Ahmad Ismail is not educated man. He don’t know the History of Malaysia & the definition of Immigrants. The Fact is Most of the old generation residents in Malaysia are Immigrants regardless of Race. My parents ( Dad-85 yrs old , Mom -80 yrs old) are born & raise in Malaysia , so they are NOT considered as a Immigrants. I was born & raise in malaysia , educated locally , in UK & USA, and also NOT considered as Immigrant.

    The solution to this case is simple. The PM should ask Ahmad ismail to tender a Personal Apology to the chinese Community ,If Ahmad refuse then charge him w/ Sedition Act. Let the Rule of Law take its course.

    From the International community standpoint. Malaysia gov’t is considered a suspect in the murder case of Altantuya S . as Gov’t agents & C4 are involved. Our Gov’t is losing Credibility internationally. What a shame ! We are Lucky that Altantuya S is not a US citizen otherwise Tomahawk missiles will be hitting KL & Putrajaya.

    we need to change the captain & its Petty officer and repair this ship in order to prevent it from sinking in to south China sea

  26. #26 by HJ Angus on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 6:20 pm

    Yes the PR should not do anything to shake the BN tree further like this discussion between Gerakan and UMNO.

    It may even be a grand design to “create a bad sitaution” so that emergency rule can be declared.

  27. #27 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 6:21 pm

    a few qoutes to enlight this goons, in hope they understood…

    1) A lord and his samurai are the same as the boat and the water, the one is held up by one another.

    2) He who does not consider where is far off, will soon find trouble close ahead.

    3) spiderman quotes: With great power comes great responsibility.

    But this goons had no moral nor value to hold responsibility!

  28. #28 by wanderer on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 6:32 pm

    Was not Najib present, when the offensive remark made?
    Why did’nt he come forward and confirm whether the reporters have distorted the racist remark…instead, he came forward to offer an apology. It simply mean, he realized the it was wrong on the part of Ahmad, but, has not got the galls to silence this Umno warlord. This country is administered by a flip flop PM and an insincere DPM, how can we not expect disaster!
    The interesting thing now is, this racist par*ah has up his finger at MCA and Gerakan, are they going to return the ‘compliment’ and bail out of BN.

  29. #29 by Godfather on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 6:35 pm

    So who actually jumped the gun ?

    Did Badawi jump the gun by stating that he would tell Ahmad not to do such a thing in the future ?

    Did Najib jump the gun by apologising on behalf of Ahmad Ismail when no apology was needed ?

    Did the Chinese parties jump the gun by making ridiculous demands when Ahmad was in fact mis-reported by the press ?

    No wonder in Bolehland nothing ever gets completed – everyone seems to jump the gun.

  30. #30 by william62 on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 6:38 pm

    Kaum Cina yang telah dihina dimarahi pula kerana kesalahan orang yang menghina orang lain.
    Adakah undang-undang mengatakan orang yang betul patut dihukum dan orang yang salah diagung-agungkan?
    Dunia ini telah terbalik rupa-rupanya, matahari mula terbit dari arah barat, katak mula berkokok dan manusia mula mengembak macam kambing.
    Para guru pula, macam mana anda nak menyerapkan nilai moral yang betul kepada pelajar anda sedangkan pemimpin-pemimpin negara telah memberkan contoh-contoh yang tak baik!?

  31. #31 by Blue.kinetic on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 6:55 pm

    YB kit, what do you expect from Badawi when there is already transition plan “imposed” on him by his own people in UMNO. A credible leader will not in this kind of position like Badawi and what i can say is,Badawi now is a tiger without teeth and just a puppet and merely “nyawa nyawa ikan”. He is now just enjoying his PM thanks to UMNO putra-putra. What a waste as He has Rakyat as his back up after GE11, but he didnt use it very well and now that he has lost people’s supprot, he left nothing and his people does not afraid of him anymore.

    He is nobody and irrevelent. To me, never take his word.

  32. #32 by zheng on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 6:55 pm

    Leaders in MCA,Gerakan and all chinese component parties in Barisan Nasional:—
    How long u guys wanna be cowards and dogs to the Umno leadership??? Now umno is in the weakerest in the history. U guys still unable to protect Chinese’s interest in the country. So what are u guys doing???? I think u guys better go back ur “kampung” and “tanam ubi”. Just one Ahmad Ismail is more than enough to defeat u guys.
    if guys are man and not “pondan”, leave and defect BN now,then join DAP or PKR. To teach a good lesson to Ahmad Ismail and all Umno extremist leaders. Then i would respect u all.

  33. #33 by penang308 on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:00 pm

    All this things happen because the chinese is represented by “CHICKEN ASSOCIATION” and a bunch of JOKERs in “GELAKan”.

    They have no interest in representing the chinese but very quick to “KOW TOW” the UMNO or be their “POW-PIOW”!

  34. #34 by Loyal Malaysian on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:08 pm

    This is precisely the problem with Badawi’s leadership.
    As the PM he cannot even control a division leader in his backyard so what else can you expect of him?
    Perhaps the other division leaders will take the cue and nominate Razaleigh for the top post.

  35. #35 by william62 on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:12 pm

    For those of us who are REAL MALAYSIAN and all the supporters of REAL DEMOCRACY – I think we have had enough of desperate cry and protest, the whole Malaysia have heard our voices…..It is up to the racist group to decide whether they still want to play with fire or not, if they choose to do so, i am sure one day they will be burnt. It is enough for us, don’t shout and make any more noise, or else the racist group and the extremists will take this chance to blame us instead, be alert, they are always waiting for the chance,they are very cunning!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. #36 by aquaimplotec on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:14 pm

    The end of the Barisan National coalition is near, Beware the ides of September when Abdulah Ahmad and his gang goes for government funded holiday to Zimbawi land. The fort is left unguarded and will be over run by PKR, DAP, SUPP, PAS supporters. Zimbawi land may well be the safe heaven for political asylum seekers i.e. Abdullah Ahmad and his gang of 40 thieves!!!!

  37. #37 by Loh on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:14 pm

    PM AAB orders to stop discussing race issue. The order is meant for non-Malays. He cannot order Malays or rather his orders will not be followed by Malays. The person whom AAB was trying hard to locate to apologize appears before him, and all of a sudden AAB has forgotten that he was supposed to ask the person to apologize. So AAB’s threat is only good for non-Malays. He never believes what he says, and neither can he ever remember it.

    The party UMNO is created on the basis of race, and talking about race is its business. If AAB is not playing double standard, and if he wants race to become non-issue, then UMNO should not exist for the purpose of race. For that, Ahmad Ismail should be sacked from the party.

  38. #38 by Ipohkia on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:34 pm

    Browsing thru’ Hj Anggus, if I dun misinterprete you message you encourage that Ahmad explaination or the chinese paper could be not competent in interpreting Bahasa Malaysia.
    Afetr 51 years by now older generation and the young generation non malays today speaks fluent BM. I am a product from the Asrama Penuh SMS students, 50 now, cukup fasih dan mampu memberi ceramh dalam BM bantuan, bahkan 3 orang wartawn bagi suratkhabar cina ini kurang kompeten dalam BM, mustahil kalau president syarikat kami fasih dan lancar dengan BM.
    Saya fikir wartawan dari suratkahbar cina itu tidak salah tafsir apa yang di katakan dalam ceramah itu.
    Kalau SB ada rekod apa yang di katakan dalam ceramah PP hari itu pun bolih di erase dari rakaman, ini bukti bila rekod masuk Altantuya dan saudaranya bolih hilang dari rekod imigresen. Jadi adanya SB atau tidak , tiada perbedaan.
    Yang penting Ahmad harus berdeapn, just minta maaf, nothing to lose, otherwise UMNO will continue to go down into the longkang.

  39. #39 by baochingtian on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:46 pm

    Today’s STAR “…Chinese are always regarded as partners, not pendatang”
    Do u think “partners” is a better word than “pendatang” ? I felt sorry for the mentality of the BN top leaders, no difference from that of sub-leaders. Do we call our brothers and even close relatives “partners” for no reason? Nampaknya ada udang di sebalik batu – What a shame !

  40. #40 by Jimm on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:46 pm

    Our foreparents journeyed as ONE to bring a name to this country.
    Of course, upbringings are the main reason we are still ‘divided’ and ‘ruled’. All of us must come from a root that carries family values. A strong family values individual will normally make a different to the rest as he will be a leader by natural character.
    When everything were made political influence by those many especially ELIT. We have to live with things that were set by them.
    They, in the other hand have been using different approach to cultivate and instilled ‘divide and rule’ mindset to their young soilders as to allow their continous control of the ruling power.
    So, we are not totally lose here as we all are survival by natural. We don’t ask for assistance as we normally find a way to be a winner each day.
    Malaysian today will stand united to make history to Malaysia.
    We will seek our real independence from our ‘wicked’ government andwith GOD’s intervention … we will walk this path as our foreparents have set forth for us in the past. We, now will fought for our next generations to come.

  41. #41 by hiro on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:50 pm

    The way I see it, Ahmad could be acting for Najib to make Badawi look really inept. Najib himself has taken the high ground. Gerakan is helping stirring up the heat vis-a-vis UMNO Penang. It seems that these guys are just waiting to stir up enough sentiment so much that it will end up with civil unrest. By that time, Badawi will be asked to resign, the National Security Council will be set up, and Najib will lord over all of Malaysians like a dictator, a repeat of what his father did to Tunky Abdul Rahman.

    What they don’t know of course is now the MAJORITY of Peninsular Malaysia citizens be it Malay, Chinese or Indians are more circumspect and will not fall for such incitement.

    We’re just eagerly awaiting the Pakatan takeover.

  42. #42 by private_undergrad on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:51 pm

    Any news/rumours about 16th Sept 2008?
    Can’t wait for that day to come.

  43. #43 by baochingtian on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 7:57 pm

    Mentality of some BN leaders are in serious deteriorating conditions. How about staying in Tg Rambutan till after 916?

  44. #44 by mohrafael on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 8:00 pm

    ..there is no point talking. We need action, action, action, result. Any BN members can do anything, misbehave, act their way, whatever lah…BN is like cowboy. that joker just doesn’t care or incapable of controlling….no muscle. am just talking the truth, nothing but the truth. want me to swear..oh yeah.

  45. #45 by Mr Smith on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 8:04 pm

    I have a few questions:
    1. Did the reporters record Ahmad’s speech?
    2. Are there any reporters from the Malay and English dailies, present at the ceramah that night, who are willing to corroborate their Chinese colleagues version of Ahmad’s speech. (The Malay and English newspaper editors may have spiked the story as it was ‘sensitive’ ).
    3. Special Branch is normally present at all ceramahs. They will have the evidence to pin that racist.
    4. Why is the police unwilling to pursue this case as vigorously as it does when opposition politicians are involved.

  46. #46 by adoionline on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 8:06 pm

    These umno buggers are only worried about their rice bowl. Badawi and Ahmad Ismail are business partners who were hoping to make a few extra bucks from the now-shelved PORR project via Ahmad’s company, Peninsular Metal Works Sdn Bhd. They don’t really give a damn what color your skin is or where your genes originate, as long as you cut them in on the action. Bid them farewell quickly because they will soon be history! :-)

  47. #47 by yhsiew on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 8:12 pm

    Thanks to a wimpish ineffectual Abdullah. If he is strong and firm in character, not many BN MPs would want to crossover to PR and “916” will not be feasible.

    Thank you Mr. PM!

  48. #48 by badak on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 8:27 pm

    MIC MCA PPP and GERAKAN leaders are still in BN because of money and power.

  49. #49 by kanokporn on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 8:28 pm

    it is so sad that malaysians have no leader at all. all we have is a pm who does not care at all for malaysians. in fact he does not even know how to care for malays except some people in his umno party. we really need a person who cares not just for malays but also indians and chinese. so sad

  50. #50 by KennyGan on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 8:36 pm

    Mr Smith, whether Ahmad actually called Chinese ‘penumpang’ as a historical fact which he claims or as a slur as the reporters claimed is unimportant. It is unacceptable to bring this up after so many generations of Chinese born and bred here. What is the relevance to modern day Malaysia? Aren’t everybody ‘pendatang’ and ‘penumpang’ at some stage of history including the Malays themselves?

    This is like giving a speech in Australia and calling the Aussies convicts. Never mind that it was a historical fact but try reminding the Aussies this now. After so many generations, they would have every right to get angry.

  51. #51 by kutlakut on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 8:49 pm

    Look, let me offer one side of the story why the incomprehensive non issue created by Ahmad Ismail cannot be resolved.

    Listen to the story of the dog chasing its tail. The tail: surely we can make out that there are still a large number of the Malay people who still thinks that UMNO is the only one that must protect their interest, ensure their survival in the country. This is a lie told to the Malays by the Malay leadership. This means that they have been fed on the poisonous myth that Malays just cannot compete with others. After 50 years of helping Malays! Malays need UMNO or they will be lost!’ This ploy makes hay for the so-called leaders in UMNO. ‘

    This is now debunked by the whole nation. More and more ‘everybody’ dared to look and accept.

    Now we know that UMNO needs that section of the Malay people’s support or it is finished. Bo Liao!! Hapus, kaboom. So it is one needing the other , so thinks the clueless party leadership. A dog chasing its tail. However, Malays could migrate to PRK or PAS and even DAP.

    The longer AAB serves as the PM, the more assured it is that BN will be unceremously thrown out into the street, like a bum kicked out of the pub. Crash, headlong into the mud.

    Of course he knows this is a fact. This is being bodoh sepat.

    You see, there is no better, smarter way to end BN but to kill it from inside. So he is doing us a big favour, and this will be realized when BN is safely dead. He knows that the Malays are being destroyed by its own kind. He is saving them in a clever way.

    He doesn’t want the BN to continue longer, for he knows that there is no BN Will To Change itself. It is not just UMNO but the tire brood that wants to continue the free ride, easy gravy train. No, our problem is not just UMNO but all the rest.

    He will go smiling to his grave, whereas , how do you think the former PM will when the train arrives to take him home at the other side?

  52. #52 by sjankan on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 9:05 pm

    Buat apa nak paksa orang yang tak ikhlas untuk minta maaf? 13 ketua bahagian pun bersama Ahmad. Jadi biarkan sahaja isu ini… rakyat dah menolak BN … kita teruskan hidup dan ambil tindakan undang-undang… saman sahaja…siasatan polis takan laju mcm utk RPK, DSAI atau EXCO Perak… 10 tahun lagi pun tak tentu selesai

    Anyway my new writing ada kena mengena dgn ini:-

    Saya melihat Tun sebagai Sultan yang telah memenjarakan Anwar (Hang Tuah). Jadi dalam epik ini dimana si Jebat? Ingat Jebat adalah orang yang paling setia kepada Tuah dan Jebat tidak keluar dari kesetiaan sultan , malah dia menerima jawatan dari sultan untuk menjadi Laksmana dan kemudiannya akan menikam sultan dari belakang. Adakah Jebat “Anwar” masih wujud dalam UMNO kini dan sedang musnahkan Sultan yang baru naik takhta”Pak Lah” dari dalam UMNO? untuk artikel penuh kunjungi….

  53. #53 by Loh on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 9:26 pm

    Did AAB lost in the 2008 election to the extent that the government could not be stabel at all? It was certainly not true that BN could not government with that margin of majority. The problems that AAB faced was a governemnt which has lost all moral authorities to remain in power. That started in TDM adminstration, and the rots cannot be remedied.

    The loss of a few seats would not have been seen as threatening AAB’s adminstration if it was not the political turbulences in UMNO engineered by TDM. He did it in 1969 even when the governemnt by Tunku was the best Malaysia ever had, compared to the succeeding governments under BN. Yet, TDM was able to cause distrubance and set the course for destruction of the country which had the potential to equal Japan, if not to excel it.

    TDM declared that he woudl migrate when Anwar becomes Prime Minister. For that reason alone, the majority of Chinese in the country would want Anwar to be PM. Never had there been one person who have created so much hatred from so many people.

  54. #54 by pulau_sibu on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 9:33 pm

    flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop prime minister. What can you say?

    The guy is above the law? Is ISA still useful? Then detain him under ISA…unless BN/UMNO shall abolish the law when coming to their own people.

    On a separate matter about assasination of MIC former politicians by the son of another politician. The media did not report the name even. This is a murder case, yet no name was mentioned. Whereas in Anwar’s case, the name has been widely advertised for political reasons.

  55. #55 by Anak Msia on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 9:46 pm

    i am glad i don’t have a father like him, but i am sad he is our premier.

    How can he handle this national issue like friend.

    i wonder how these MCA/MIC/Gerakan/SAPP/etc can work with UMNO?

    While DAP/PKR is trying to build the nation, UMNO looks like in another direction.

  56. #56 by Truth Seeker on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 9:50 pm

    Here’s another gem dug out from way, way back in the good ol’ days of the US of A, when things were quite plain, simple and straightforward.

    We could draw inspiration from …..

    The following, which is the text of the Virginia Declaration of Rights (1776):

    I That all men are by nature equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.

    II That all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people; that magistrates are their trustees and servants, and at all times amenable to them.

    III That government is, or ought to be, instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the people, nation or community; of all the various modes and forms of government that is best, which is capable of producing the greatest degree of happiness and safety and is most effectually secured against the danger of maladministration; and that, whenever any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community hath an indubitable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to reform, alter or abolish it, in such manner as shall be judged most conducive to the public weal.

    IV That no man, or set of men, are entitled to exclusive or separate emoluments or privileges from the community, but in consideration of public services; which, not being descendible, neither ought the offices of magistrate, legislator, or judge be hereditary.

    V That the legislative and executive powers of the state should be separate and distinct from the judicative; and, that the members of the two first may be restrained from oppression by feeling and participating the burthens of the people, they should, at fixed periods, be reduced to a private station, return into that body from which they were originally taken, and the vacancies be supplied by frequent, certain, and regular elections in which all, or any part of the former members, to be again eligible, or ineligible, as the laws shall direct.

    VI That elections of members to serve as representatives of the people in assembly ought to be free; and that all men, having sufficient evidence of permanent common interest with, and attachment to, the community have the right of suffrage and cannot be taxed or deprived of their property for public uses without their own consent or that of their representatives so elected, nor bound by any law to which they have not, in like manner, assented, for the public good.

    VII That all power of suspending laws, or the execution of laws, by any authority without consent of the representatives of the people is injurious to their rights and ought not to be exercised.

    VIII That in all capital or criminal prosecutions a man hath a right to demand the cause and nature of his accusation to be confronted with the accusers and witnesses, to call for evidence in his favor, and to a speedy trial by an impartial jury of his vicinage, without whose unanimous consent he cannot be found guilty, nor can he be compelled to give evidence against himself; that no man be deprived of his liberty except by the law of the land or the judgement of his peers.

    IX That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed; nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

    X That general warrants, whereby any officer or messenger may be commanded to search suspected places without evidence of a fact committed, or to seize any person or persons not named, or whose offense is not particularly described and supported by evidence, are grievous and oppressive and ought not to be granted.

    XI That in controversies respecting property and in suits between man and man, the ancient trial by jury is preferable to any other and ought to be held sacred.

    XII That the freedom of the press is one of the greatest bulwarks of liberty and can never be restrained but by despotic governments.

    XIII That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and be governed by, the civil power.

    XIV That the people have a right to uniform government; and therefore, that no government separate from, or independent of, the government of Virginia, ought to be erected or established within the limits thereof.

    XV That no free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue and by frequent recurrence to fundamental principles.

    XVI That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the manner of discharging it, can be directed by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore, all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice forbearance, love, and charity towards each other.

    Adopted unanimously June 12, 1776 Virginia Convention of Delegates drafted by Mr. George Mason

  57. #57 by James on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 10:10 pm

    My take is that all this sandiwara is the brainchild of aab or his sil to put najis in a very bad light. It is meant to deny najis from taking over. We must reluctantly acknowledge that this bodohwi is not as bodoh as he appers to be. In fact he is most wily & dangerous in executing his political moves to keep himself in power. He is obviously not ready to hand over power. The only option for him to achieve that is to discredit najis (his supposed successor) so that the party will reject him. What evilness.

  58. #58 by cancan on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 10:15 pm

    It is a simple philosophy in life.

    When the father of the family is weak and useless, the children will naturally grown up to be ill-mannered and useless to the family as well.


  59. #59 by jus legitimum on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 10:18 pm

    That thick skin Ahmad from Penang was twisting facts and lying.All in all,he was displaying a cowardly behaviour so typical of the leaders of that racist party.They habitually resort to the practice of the denial syndrome whenever they cause a furore like the ‘penumpang’ issue.

  60. #60 by pulau_sibu on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 10:23 pm

    i read that ahmad’s father came from Indonesia. is that true? then he is more pendatang than many chinese in malaysia who are 3rd, 4th or 5th generation

  61. #61 by Damocles on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 10:34 pm

    An UMNO division leader can make the country’s top leader eat humble pie?
    That’s unheard of in the political system anywhere in the world!
    Has UMNO’s political system been subverted to this level where the PM has to knuckle down to someone way down the hierarchy?
    That’s the reason why Anwar must take over the premiership by whatever means on or before September 16th!
    It’s not a minute too soon! Else there’ll be complete anarchy!!!

  62. #62 by chin on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 10:39 pm

    Couple of hours ago, a news from NST mentioned that a student was beaten up by a teacher because being accused of stealing Handphone belongs to the teacher. Now, lets observe this teacher & sees that how he or she being handle by the Education Ministry. Will he or she be promoted to Education Department too ?
    Dr.Koh should look at himself in the mirror & ask if the person he saw in the mirror is a mere underdog or someone great ?
    For the racist Bukit Bendera fellow ! He should have a brain scan for there is a 100% brain tumor lodge inside his brain. How Bodowi wanted to somersault 100 times, its just a circus we are witnessing & the show should classified as the “The biggest Comedy In The World”. Whatever Grammy, Nanny, Gimmy, Louvy & Money awards are awaiting to ready to be awarded to Bodowi !

  63. #63 by pulau_sibu on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 10:39 pm

    Seeing the ‘racist’ remarks by Tun Mahathir, I posted this message in his blog two days ago. Indeed I feel like our role in this country and how we were brought here should be re-examined. In modern terminology, our ancestors were brought in as slaves.

    Obama is a black, the second generation. A great part of his life, childhood, was outside America. He was brought up in a Muslim family. Yet there is no problem for him to be a presidential candidate. There could have been some talks about him irrelevant to be the US President, but there is nothing there to stop him from becoming the President of America. Do you think this can happen in boleh for the third or fourth generation Chinese?

  64. #64 by Damocles on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 10:50 pm

    “I have a few questions:
    1. Did the reporters record Ahmad’s speech?
    2. Are there any reporters from the Malay and English dailies, present at the ceramah that night, who are willing to corroborate their Chinese colleagues version of Ahmad’s speech. (The Malay and English newspaper editors may have spiked the story as it was ’sensitive’ ).
    3. Special Branch is normally present at all ceramahs. They will have the evidence to pin that racist.
    4. Why is the police unwilling to pursue this case as vigorously as it does when opposition politicians are involved.” – Mr Smith

    Mr Smith, I’m sure that other than the reporters from Chinese newspapers, the others present will not reveal the truth.
    Do you think that the reporters from the Malay and English news media will destroy their own rice bowl? Do you know who owns these newspapers?
    Also, you don’t seem to realise that the police has always do the bidding of the BN government (I’m quite sure that you are not that naive?).
    Perhaps you’re using contradictory language!

  65. #65 by NewDAP on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 10:52 pm

    With such a pariah racist leader in Penang, that’s explained why UMNO lost badly in Penang.

    AAB, Najib and the rest of UNMO leaders have no power or guts to punish this moron?

  66. #66 by alancheah on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 10:53 pm

    Truely sick to see how the existing federal govt leads this country!
    I really pray everyday now, hoping that Anwar Ibrahim
    can really make the 916 happen!

    If it could not happen, we should not blame him.
    If it could happen, it is really the greatest gift
    ever given to all rakyat who need HUGE CHANGE!

    God bless this country!

    We really need a better future and better leaders!

  67. #67 by pulau_sibu on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 11:05 pm

    many asked if the reporters recorded the voice of ahmad.

    Najiv was there when the guy made the remarks. he would be the best person to report it to the police, not to say be asked to be an witness in the police investigation.

  68. #68 by oct on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 11:12 pm

    Ahmad dares to be arrogant because he has our PM’s balls in his hand. He knows PM needs his support in the forthcoming UMNO GA. He gave PM an offer that our PM can’t refuse which the whole of Penang UMNO support for his presidency.

    Our weak and timid PM, with a gun in his head, thus has no choice but to support his demand and came out to show support for him without realising that this will reflect badly upon him. Our stupid sleepy head doesn’t know that if he does this, he will lose the support of the non-Malays and even the support from BN non- Malays component parties.

    There is a big difference between a preacher and a CEO. A preacher will always try to please his followers whereas a CEO will reprimand his subordinates if they go out of line with company policy even to the extend of terminating his/her service. No one is indispensable. In this case, PM needs Ahmad more than Ahmad needs PM. No wonder all members dare to make racist remarks, knowing that no action will be taken against them as some of UMNO leaders have done so before without any reprimand.

    Mind you it has sent the wrong signal. More of this will surface later. When you don’t terminate the cancer, the cancer will spread. This is going to be the case. It will turn ugly one day. This is no laughing matter!!!!!

  69. #69 by IamMalaysian on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 11:29 pm

    No doubt Badawi is the worst PM in Malaysia’s history!

  70. #70 by Jan on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 11:33 pm

    If Abdullah wants to take care of Ahmad all he got to do is send in the ACA to rough up this recalcitrant. That will send a strong message to the other 13 UMNO division heads not to mess around with you. It has happened before, just ask Yong Teck Lee!
    The fact that Abdullah is very hesitant to take care of Ahmad must be because they must have a business arrangement on the side otherwise there’s no reason why a PM could not take care of a mere minion.

  71. #71 by wanderer on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 11:33 pm

    MCA, MIC and GERAKAN have been too long apologists to UMNO resulting to a one party control of the nation. The rakyat are under the sufferance of UMNO, even if the party have weak leadership that will put us in troubled water. The only way to rectify the situation is by an outside force…a strong opposition to remove the govt but, are we ready?

  72. #72 by katdog on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 11:37 pm

    PM Badawi has always been flip flop, nothing new there. There has always never been any repercussions for UMNO members that make racially insensitive remarks. Nothing new or alarming there as well.

    I have Malay friends who have attended UMNO ceramah’s in past elections and they can attest that racist comments is a norm.Of course to these racists, they are merely telling the historical truth.

    There’s no point trying to force an apology from them as it wouldn’t be sincere anyway. People like Ahmad and Dr. M believe that making such comments equals standing up for Malay rights and they take pride in not bowing to pressure to the demands of ‘chinese extremists’. That’s how thick their skins are.

    Just reveal these people for what they are and leave it at that. What is needed is to instill in future generations that racism and racially demeaning comments from whichever race is not something to be proud off.

  73. #73 by cemerlang on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 11:38 pm

    Almost forgotten that this is the holy month of fasting. Do not sin. Jangan berdosa. hmm…

    Datuk Ahmad Ismail actually confirmed his own words and his impression upon the non Bumiputras when he met the media to explain when he had said. He and his nepotists added oil to fire. May be he had helped some of the most powerful politicians and for this, he is being protected. Gerakan and MCA should do something concrete because he had brought them into the picture. I am sure many Malaysians have watched the news.

    Nowhere in the identity card is written how you came to be borned in Malaysia. If these Bumiputras cannot accept the non Bumiputras, how come they still want to create the My Malaysia Second Home programme ? If you cannot accept the people borned here, how can you make foreigners feel good, feel welcomed and expect them to become citizens of Malaysia ? If you want rich people to become citizens of Malaysia, you should know that these people are not Malays. In fact, how many are pure Malays ? Malay mixed with Chinese. Malay mixed with Indians. Malay mixed with Pakistani. Malay mixed with Australians. Malay mixed with Europeans. Why don’t you just marry your own Malay race if you are so proud of your own Malay race ? Make sure your children marry Malay and your grandchildren marry Malay.

  74. #74 by malimdeman on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 11:40 pm

    Weak Goverment!

  75. #75 by katdog on Sunday, 7 September 2008 - 11:53 pm

    To Cemerlang,
    The problem is UMNOputra’s trying to paint themselves as ‘True Malays’ standing up for Malay rights (when some of them are even later immigrants than many non-Malays)

    This is very typical gangster/tyrant type tactics. Always create an outside/external enemy. Offer yourself as a ‘protector’, and you’ll be amazed at how much bullshit people will let you get away with as long as you keep them ‘protected’. That is UMNO. And MCA uses the same tactics on chinese communities as well.

    Many common Malays are as much victims of UMNO as non-Malays.

  76. #76 by Zaitun 68 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 12:06 am

    Badawi’s position is like that of a circus ringmaster only that he is not in the ring with a group of tigers but instead it is with a bunch of monkeys.

    His problem is that he has run out of peanuts to bribe those monkeys to perform, so now those monkeys are in total revolt and openly defying him.

    Clearly he is totally at a loss what to do next. Resolving the situation requires a degree of competence he obviously doesn’t have. Perhaps instead of criticising him, people may offer him some sympathy out of compassion.

  77. #77 by homeblogger on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 12:24 am

    The reason Badawi does not step down is the same reason Ah MAD Ismail does not say sorry – EGO.

    One is worried that history will forever remember him as the worst PM and the one who let Pakatan take over. So he is probably trying his best waiting (and praying) some miracle will happen to make his exit least damaging to his EGO.

    The other damn fool cannot say “Sorry” because he was never taught the word and what it means. You know the kind of person he is right… everyone does. To these type of people it is incomprehensible that they might be wrong. They are brought up to believe that even if they kill someone in front of the whole world, they are still NOT wrong. And even if they know they should say sorry, they won’t because of EGO.

  78. #78 by kerishamuddinitis on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 12:36 am

    How can we ever expect UNMO Malays to be anything but racist when (i) the entire political basis for the existence of Malaysia is a divisive arrangement of convenience amongst the elite of the 3 races, (ii) when this arrangment is itself based on enslaving the respective races through fear of the other races, and (iii) hence, the need for regular and expedient demonstrations of racial strife, clashes and riots – so that they all stoke and feed the fear amongst the races.

    Can we really blame UMNO Malays for their ‘Chinese are immigrants’ mindset when the Chinese community leaders retained CHEW MEI FUN as Selangor Wanita Chief? This is the same woman who THREATENED her own race and community with Mei 13 in the run up to the March 8 polls. How can anyone believe, trust and support people like her? If MCA will not penalise their own leaders for continuing to treat the Chinese community as a surbordinate race cowed by fear of physical harm everytime we stand up for our rights, then can we expect UMNO to penalise their own leaders for exploiting this surbordinate mindset and fear?

    For those of us Chinese who reside in Selangor, we must ensure MCA ceases to exist in Selangor. They are the traitors of the race. They will not DISBAND racist politics. They will not embrace non-race politics. They have NO SOLUTIONS to achieving a fair and even recognition of our rights as Malaysians born of this land. And yet, at the same time, they abuse our intelligence by using FEAR TACTICS to enslave our emotions and our minds.

    Can we truly blame UMNO racists for working the same strategy although from a ‘historical’ perspective of ‘origins’? All MCA has achieved is to give UMNO permission to treat Malaysian Chinese like dirt under foot.

    I support DSAI for PM this 16th Sept 2008.

  79. #79 by katdog on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 12:58 am

    Come Sep 16, PR will have their chance to pursue the creation of their ideal ‘Bangsa Malaysia’.

    But lets not forget, we should be focusing on the issues not races.

    Gerakan is laughably trying to paint itself as a multiracial party. But understand that, labeling yourself multiracial to garner votes is still racial (just of all races). Where are their goals and principles? Justice? Fairness?

    Forget useless fellows like Ahmad. Just show them the middle finger and get on with the real issues.

  80. #80 by Malar on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 1:00 am

    Some morons do not know the word ‘sorry’. It has never existed in their entire life. MCA, Gerakan , MIC and PPP should all have a natural death because they have no self respect even after the GE13. TDM should migrate if DSAI becomes the PM and I would like to hear someone from which ever country he migrates to call him “Invader” or “Squatter” from Bolehland. It is so despicable for a former premier to give such remarks. No wonder the attitude and pea brain of his left overs are just like him. The indians and chinese just pray hard for DSAI to take over on 16 Sept 2008.

    The study tour is just to finish up whatever money is left before 16/9. They will not have this opportunity after this and during their absence there is so much of clearing and disappearing need to be done by BN. Most probably when they are back, their offices would be occupied by someone else.

  81. #81 by Samuel Goh Kim Eng on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 1:01 am

    Any politician still harping on the politics of race
    Will indeed be condemned as a disgrace to the human race
    For how can the person see God as Creator face to face
    Even with both eyes fully covered with layers of lace?

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 080908
    Mon. 8th Sept. 2008.

  82. #82 by son of perpaduan on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 1:01 am

    Malaysia is the best country to live in, but unfortunately the past and current goverment who destroy the peace among the race who has been marginalize by BN. Let DSAI unite use, malay,india,chinese and others, lets hold each other hand with one heart one mind together marching forward and bring down the corrupted administration who almost cause disunity among each other. Everybody,let forget our religion background for a time being and think positive for your generation. Let do it now b4 it is too late.
    Universal propaganda is only a nightmare, the next day when you open up your eyes, that is the day we need to face.

  83. #83 by m.r.ang on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 1:01 am

    This Ahmad and the 13 UMNO supporters actually hates Bodowi.This
    may be their indirect way of telling off Bodowi because they don’t
    have the guts to tell him staight in his face.

  84. #84 by lhslhv on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 1:07 am

    I remember this joke as I think it is relevant to Malaysian context.

    One day all the body organs are trying to vote for a leader to lead the body.

    Undoubtly the heart wants to claim the first role saying that without me pumpng the blood all of you will be malfunction.

    However the lungs also want to nominate itself claiming that without me inhaling oxygen, the heart cannot pump blood.

    The eyes start to exert its importance by saying that without me the body goes nowhere.

    Now there is choas as every lesser important organ also wants to lead.

    Out of a sudden, the asshole also shouted that it wants to lead. Every organ is caught by the surprise.

    Of course every organ despises the asshole and eliminated its leading role. Frustrated, the asshole shut itself up tight and as a consequence the whole body is turned topsy-turvy.

    Eventually the asshole got the role.

    So it doesn’t matter whether you are smart or not, if you have the balls in your hand you can command leadership.

  85. #85 by lhslhv on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 1:23 am

    I will say again that I know of friends who join MCA just because they want to be cloase to the top echolon of MCA to get contracts. Compared to the contracts of UMNO’s cronies they are peanuts.

    You think that those Chinese who are in politics are interested to fight for the welfare of the Chinese. You have to wait for endless geneartaions (if there is ever) to see this comes true.

    Have you ever forgotten that our MCA leader Tan Kwoon Suan was jailed in Singapore. What a disgrace to MCA! Unfortunatly the unenlightened Chinese still wants to believe these greedy politicians. Or is the other way round, the greedy politicians want to join MCA to cheat the unenlightened Chinese.

    Look at the case of Ling Liong Sik’s son fiasco as well.

    Do we Chinese ever learn?

    We want a government that looks after all the Malaysian benefits irrespective of the races.

  86. #86 by Jong on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 1:44 am

    Even with the little that he has, they are already selling it off

    “Otak Pak Lah – .50sen ” :D

    at pasar Ramadan. Any hope left for Malaysians, is
    to support Anwar and Pakatan Rakyat, CHANGE is what we need desperately!

  87. #87 by Malaysian Mummy on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 1:56 am

    Dont blame nobody but to blame Dr M for choosing a flip flop PM and Dr M regretted his whole life then asking his flip flop PM to step down immediately.

    Malaysians have past great kind Tuanku, Tun Razak and Tun Hussein are the reasonable understanding and loving PMs until Dr M came to power with his ‘duri dalam daging’ rakyat regime for 22 years. It is unfortunate for Malaysians to lose Sdr Anwar as a future PM was jailed behing bars for 6 years by cruel Dr M who said his regret of appointing a flip flop PM.

    Other BN component parties are chicken to voice out their displeasure and disatisfaction over the ways their Master BN leaders behaved arrogant, greedy, corrupt, cronies and nepotism in their policies against the poor of all races but to enrich themselves and their families only. Overall Malaysians have suffered for past 50 years from ironic ruled by BN.

    Well , it is time to change for a better future in good governance of Malaysia. Sept 16 is a People Power Reformation Day to celebrate for all Malaysians and the downfall of BN forever. Bravo !!

  88. #88 by One4All4One on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:35 am

    Ahmad’s Alleged Remark and Its Impact and Aftermath.

    Why is it so important to get to the bottom of the matter, now that the remark has become the point of contention for the whole nation? The incident has developed to become the focus of leaders and the rakyat alike. At stake is the integrity of UMNO (& their leaders), BN component parties ( & their leaders ), their principles or lack of it, and more importantly the future of the nation.

    The remark and the reactions of leaders has so many implications and insinuations that the whole foundation of the social, political and national well-being seems to have been badly shaken. This cannot be denied and brushed aside as leaders from many political parties and concerned citizens across the country had been left disturbed, confused and disillusioned by the whole episode of events which are still unfolding at this very moment.

    Not to discuss the matter would be disastrous and calamitous to the country and people because the people are indeed crying for answers and clarification in order that the clear and correct picture would be made available to help them make sense of the whole situation. Then and only then would some form of normalcy and order be restored.

    Malaysians have to be mature and strong enough to discuss matters of importance openly, rationally, sensibly, objectively, without fear and prejudice. Let good sense prevail. Cool heads must also prevail. There must be no preconditions. Honesty, sincerity, and integrity must be present at all times and the ultimate objective would be to come up with a solution for the good of the country and its people.

    Ahmad’s Claim.

    The claim that he was referring to historical facts when the issue of Chinese immigrants was brought up during the Permatang Pauh by-election seems to be an afterthought.

    It appears that his remarks that the Chinese are merely “squatters” were made off the cuff and meant to impact on the Malay audience at the ceramah that the Malays are still the dominant race in Malaysia. Perhaps the remark was made to win the malay votes for UMNO. Only Ahmad Ismail knew the true reason to bring up the issue of the Chinese status as immigrants.

    One may be prompted to ask what the status of the Chinese has to do with the by-election?

    And why did Ahmad not come out early to clarify and rectify what he actually meant before the furore over his statement got out of hand?

    The Impact and Aftermath.

    What we observe over the past few days is that Ahmad’s remark had sparked off a hot debate among political parties, in and outside of BN, and across the board among the people.

    Distrust, mistrust, disillusionment, let-down, ill-will, prejudice, racism, selective discrimination, disbelief, disappointment, anger, etc., etc., seem to be written on the wall. Only those who are in denial cannot or refuse to read the writings.

    We simply cannot dismiss the grim scenario as a one-of-a-kind situation and a temporary set back. For the situation to become so severe and serious, the Ahmad Ismail’s remark could be seen as the spark that let out the can of worms which had been growing and multiplying over time. Something is organically and inherently wrong with the system but not being able to manifest or allowed to manifest itself for certain reasons.

    Politics of accommodation has its pluses and minuses. When the minuses have exceeded the pluses, it is perhaps time to take a re-look and make necessary adjustments.

    Matters just cannot be swept under the carpet. Instead, earnest and concerted measures and sincere discussions must be held to tackle and rectify the situation for the long term well-being and survival of the nation.

    ( My apologies for any unintentional, unsavoury and unqualified remarks. I just wish the best for my country and fellow Malaysians. May God bless all. )

  89. #89 by ihavesomethingtosay on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:36 am

    we’d survive, 5 years with little napoleans running about in the country and we ain’t never seen a leader yet, ‘cept for the photo showing one man constaly dozing off at improper moments.


  90. #90 by akarmalaysian on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:45 am

    look people….for many years…the malay leaders dun take care of the malay people…the chinese leaders dun take care of the chinese people…the indian leaders dun take care of the indian people….so…who do u expect to take care of us all?these leaders…thrs only one thing they are good at…taking care of their own pockets.just look at any of them…how much wealth hv they amassed over the years.and now they are provoking the people with racial sentiments.we people wan a change its becos the government is too corrupted and dirty for a long time.semua pandai korek korek korek.and we decent people need to korek korek korek also to pay taxes for the government.
    and now…the government is sending the MPs for honeymoon trips…at the expense of the peoples money.and how much is this trip gonna cost?we knw bn is in a very very bad shape…dun blame it on others…blame it on bad i wan to go sleep.malas nak cakap tentang ni corrupted and useless leaders.

  91. #91 by aquaimplotec on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:52 am

    Zimbawi is going to be a very rich nation.

  92. #92 by Common People on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:52 am

    Dear Bloggers,
    So angry-ah you people. Well, let’s see what I can do. Mmm … I think Abdullah didn’t mean what he said. Err … but I heard a Monggolian has just apologized on his behalf, I think the Monggolian did the right thing, I fully support him. Don’t worry guys, if you guys are still not happy with Abdullah, I will tell him off and make sure he apologize to you personally, just wait for tomorrow’s news on RTM, TV3 and NTV7. Can’t wait to show him who’s boss.
    But then again, are you sure he really said that-ah? Maybe he was talking about last time? Hey, please check the fact first-lah before complaining to me. You sure ah? … don’t make me embarassed you know!

  93. #93 by monsterball on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:52 am

    Many many more like Ahmad Ismail are in UMNO.
    It is only….we are fortunate…one dare to speak out UMNO leaders think.
    These are the ever faithful students of their teacher……Mahathir..for 22 years.
    Dollah and Najib are very good students of Mahathir That’s why they are PM and DPM… due to the fact….they are more cunning and smarter than Ahmad..can hide their true identities…by agreeing to disagree… learn the art of dirty politics… so well done by their master…..twisting and turning…showing how good they are.
    Vast majority Malaysians are not impressed…and actually feeling sick of these corrupted hypocrites.

  94. #94 by mat_kilau on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 4:04 am

    I voted PR last PRU, but i’m so confused with DAP Bangsa Malaysia. i wonder what bangsa DAP wanted. I just go through Teresa Kok’s blog, about memorandum of tulisan Jawi on road sign. The reason is most of malaysian could not understand Jawi. They suggest to put chinese and indian language on the sign. Well, it is more worst, because most malaysian also could not understand chinese and indian language. So what are you fighting actually? Is it because jawi is more islamic. please read history la, jawi is first malay written language.

    Now i see, what is Bangsa Malaysia for DAP. To wipe out all things related to malay and islam. Bangsa Malaysia for DAP is not is chinese+chinese+chinese+indian. If they can, bahasa kebangsaan also should be chinese.

    I’m not regret voted PR, cause i vote for PAS and PKR, not DAP.

    What i see, DAP should be BN component. Cause they still want chinese with chinese, indian with indian, malay with malay.

    They should actually fighting Bangsa Malaysia in the true spirit of rakyat Malaysia. They should promote Bahasa Malaysia as true and only language. They should start plan to change chinese school to Sekolah Kebangsaan (Malaysia) not Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan Cina as there are no school with the name of Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan Melayu. They should not fight for chinese literature, chinese culture only, they should fight rakyat malaysia culture.

    I cannot see DAP is for malaysian until now. DAP is like MCA, chinese party. I think Tunku Aziz should not be a member of DAP la, wrong wrong choice.

    Once again, don’t ‘syok sendiri la’ cause malay actually never support you. luckily you are in PR with anwar ibrahim. Malay not choose you, they choose anwar, they like anwar. they don’t like you mr DAP (anti malay and muslim party).

  95. #95 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 6:17 am

    Ya i felt disturb by the road sign thingy actualy, but to be honest just make it simple and professional, International language and Nationalism was enough. NO EXTREMISM PLEASE! CHINESE NOR INDI OR JAWI REMOVED THEM ALL.

    We care not BUT concentration on the road not reading those damn signs, just english and Bahasa Malaysia(nationalism by mean).

    btw im a chinese i can’t read chinese either bleh ;p

  96. #96 by TruthEnquirer on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 6:25 am

    Ahmad Ismail belongs to the faction of UMNO challenging moral authority of Ahmad Badawi’s premiership. That is not all. He also challenges Anwar Ibrahim’s claim to takeover from Badawi. Anwar’s victory in Permatang Pauh has been explained as Malays changing to dissociate themselves from Ketuanan in favour of multiracialism. In refusing to apologise to the Chinese Ahmad Ismail appeals to Ketuanan. He is basically taking the stand that Malay support for Anwar in Permatang Pauh is due to parochial support and nothing to do with them being weaned from UMNO’s supremacy ideology. Ketuanan is too etched in Malay psyche to explain Anwar’s Permatang Pauh success along that line. It being the case, the only way to test this and salvage UMNO’s political dominance is to revert to Ketuanan, using the traditional racial formula of challenging others to delegitimise the current premier blamed as first cause of UMNO’s present woes. It is to kill two birds with one stone, to put a brake on resurgent Chinese/Non Malays’ demands on the back of PR’s recent victories and to delegitimise Badawi’s flip flop premiership, at the same time. Regarding who is behind him, it is he who will benefit most from both Badawi being humiliated and the theory of Anwar’s riding on Malays changed attitudes being debunked. We can guess who that may be.

  97. #97 by HJ Angus on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 7:30 am

    Sometimes one can apply observtions in nature to explain how humans behave.

    I was in Alaska a few weeks back and the salmon were spawning. During this process the salmon swim across oceans for thousands of miles to get back where they were born a few years ago – scientists are still trying to figure out how they do it.

    During the swim upriver they adapt from sea-water to fresh water and the body also changes color as they undergo hormonal changes.

    At this time it seems the meat is not nice to eat except for the many bears who wait for their dinners to swim by – it is an easy catch for the steams are full of salmon.

    Maybe the political party elections of racist parties are like the spawning salmon – the brain is disengaged and those who seek elections have only one thing on their minds – how to get reelected.
    Nothing else matters – not the party, not the nation and definitely not racial harmony.

  98. #98 by Bigjoe on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 8:27 am

    Its quite clear the PM is doing this because of UMNO election the rational being that it would be worst if he has a bad result in December. The problem is, like his pathetic attempt at dealing with Ahmad Ismail, he is also wrong in this gamble.

    So what if in December he does not have a bad result. With his retirement looming in 1.5 years, he has a very slim chance of pushing forward his agenda without Najib cooperation and Najib is not going to give up his political capital before he becomes PM because he needs it. Any progress of his agenda next year can be easily stopped and reversed if Najib does not take over the batton. Najib in turn, while he has more control over his minions, has to contend with Muhiyiddin who want to be PM ASAP.

    No this PM is lost in all the dynamics of UMNO politics and reacting badly to it. His worst crime is that by perpetuating the wrongs of Ahmad Ismail, he condemns not only his party but his nation and his own legacy with it. This is how the Ottomon empire was lost and one would think his religious knowledge would have taught him that…

  99. #99 by taiking on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 8:55 am

    “The enemy of our enemy is a friend.”
    Umno is our enemy.
    Ahmad Is-something is umno’s enemy.
    Shall we then embrace ahmad as a “friend”?
    Encourage him.
    The Americans would probably arm him.
    We will just prod him on.
    Buff up his courage and confidence to speak out more.
    It does not matter who prevail and who perish at the end of the day.
    Its going to be plain “hantu vs hantu”.
    Let them fight on.
    Anymore ahmads in umno.
    Remember we ‘penumpang’ ‘pendatang’ ‘orang asing’ etc etc are your friends.

  100. #100 by Bigjoe on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:02 am

    FYI Sdr. Lim,

    Najib tropedoed Badawi’s covering up for Ahmad Ismail..

    What did I say about this thing coming back to bite Badawi in the ass for covering up for idiots like Ahmad Ismail?

  101. #101 by kutlakut on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:06 am

    pulau_sibu Said:
    i read that ahmad’s father came from Indonesia. is that true? then he is more pendatang than many chinese in malaysia who are 3rd, 4th or 5th generation unquote.

    From Java? Moluccas, the coconut tree?

    What is the word ‘layu?” Me- layu?

  102. #102 by 5titlah on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:44 am

    Don’t u guys think that the ‘penumpang’ remark is a blessing in disguise…? Our PM doing again a flip-flop…? Our DPM made a fool for saying sorry…?

    I think with all……. these remarks, BN & UMNO is just sooooo……
    screwed up ! Still wanna vote for these guys.. ?

    Thanks BN & UMNO..!
    PM is correct when he says even our Agung is HAPPY with the way Malaysia is govern.

    The 27 million rakyat Malaysian please vote for PKR to govern Malaysia..!

  103. #103 by Compass on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 9:48 am

    Why a 3rd generation Chinese born in Malaysia is not bumiputera, whereas a 2nd generation Indonesia born in Malaysia is a bumiputera?
    So is there any rule that says after X generation that you are entitle to a bumiputera status.
    Why Baba and Nyonya is not a bumiputera, localized since Melaka sultanate?
    Why a Muslim Indian is a clasified as bumiputera, since they are just localized recently in history.
    So please tell me what is the exact criteria to be classified as a bumiputera?

  104. #104 by Anak Msia on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:00 am

    Compass Says:

    Today at 09: 48.04 (8 minutes ago)
    Why a 3rd generation Chinese born in Malaysia is not bumiputera, whereas a 2nd generation Indonesia born in Malaysia is a bumiputera?

    Well, it is all up to the MCA/Gerakan and other component parties to fight for, they have being fighting from internally and cowardly, but we wasted the whole life without result. If they have really fought, we may not end up like 3rd class.

  105. #105 by penang308 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:05 am


    We may start we with Pm, DPM, ex-PM, Ministers etc…

    If I am not wrong, DPM has some relationship with Bugis from Suleiwasi, Indonesia.

    Continue if you know more….

  106. #106 by justice4allraces on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 10:33 am

    penang308 Says:

    Today at 10: 05.30 (18 minutes ago)

    We may start we with Pm, DPM, ex-PM, Ministers etc…

    If I am not wrong, DPM has some relationship with Bugis from Suleiwasi, Indonesia.

    Continue if you know more….

    ^^You are so darn right. This is a call for a radical but positive change for dear Malaysia. We have had enough of the Malays trying to show themselves to the non-Malays as if they own whole of Malaysia. This HAS to stop. S-T-O-P! Malaysia does not belong to one ethnicity but to various ethnicities. Racism and so-called ethnocentric mentalities do NOT belong in a diverse nation like Malaysia. And lastly I have to say perhaps MCA and MIC should consider changing their coalition within BN and perhaps merge with DAP for a change. A political party should not only be the kind that “walk the talk” where its celebrates diversity and unity but also maintain democracy and freedom of expression for our people.

  107. #107 by k1980 on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 11:16 am

    It’s all about religion, not ethnicity. If the PM’s maternal grandpop had been a Buddhist, today the PM is a squatter

  108. #108 by boh-liao on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 11:38 am

    How many ancestors does one person have?

    2 parents (one previous generation)
    4 grand parents (two previous generations)
    8 great grand parents (three previous generations)
    16 great great grand parents (four previous generations)
    32 great great great grand parents (five previous generations)
    2^6=64 great great great great grand parents or ancestors (six previous generations)
    2^10=1,024 ancestors (10 previous generations)
    2^20=1,048,576 ancestors (20 previous generations)

    So, if there were one person who claimed to be racially pure in this nation, please stand up to be counted!

    There are 46 chromosomes in each of our cells. In view of the large number of ancestors we each have, don’t be surprised that we share one or more of our chromosomes and genes with those in a Malay, Chinese, Indian, Iban, Kadazan, or what have you!

  109. #109 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:38 pm

    boh-liao – I think in Ahmad’s case, he has 47 chromosomes – an extra chromosome 21. (Trisomy 21).

  110. #110 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Monday, 8 September 2008 - 2:46 pm

    /// By Mozafar on September 5, 2008 7:57 PM
    Be honest to the Chinese & Indians. Tell them once for all that it is not wrong to say that they were sons and grandsons of immigrants. Do they want to deny that remarks ? ///

    This was posted by Mozafar in Che Det’s thread on Pohon Maaf (2).

    Can you imagine Mozafar suggesting to Mahathir to say that? Doesn’t Mozafar realize that Mahathir was the grandson of immigrant as well?

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