SAPP bombshell – a second political tsunami in next few days?

Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) has dropped a bombshell when its president Yong Teck Lee announced that its two MPs, Dr. Chua Soon Bui (Tawau) and Eric Majimbun (Sepanggar) would move a no-confidence motion against Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi when Parliament resumes on Monday.

But will the bombshell land in Parliament on Monday?

With the ruling coalition commanding unbroken two-thirds parliamentary majority in the 11 general elections since Merdeka in 1957 until the recent political tsunami of the March 2008 general election, there had never been any no confidence motion against the Prime Minister in Malaysian parliamentary history.

The Parliamentary Standing Orders do not have special provision for a no confidence motion.

In the circumstances, a no confidence motion may be regarded as an ordinary motion under Standing Order 27 which requires notice of 14 days to be given – making it impossible for such a no confidence motion to be tabled on Monday, June 23, 2008 as the earliest would be July 2 if the no confidence motion is submitted today.

Standing Order 18 which allows an MP to move a motion to adjourn the House to discuss a definite matter of urgent public importance will be inappropriate and unhelpful as it only allows one hour debate on the specified issue without any vote being taken at the end of the debate.

The only way for a no confidence motion to be tabled and debated on Monday is for the Speaker ito treat it as a substantive and extraordinary motion which should take precedence and priority over all parliamentary business which does not need to comply with the requisite 14-day notice and publishing it as the first item of parliamentary business after Question Time in the Parliamentary Order of Business on Monday.

In doing so, however, the Speaker is likely be in direct loggerheads with the government of the day and must be prepared to pay the consequences of such decision.

I see little possibility of SAPP’s No Confidence Motion against Abdullah as Prime Minister being tabled and debated on Monday unless there is a second political tsunami in the next few days, with waves of support from other Barisan Nasional MPs from Sabah, Sarawak and Peninsula Malaysia making it a credible parliamentary move.

Whether the SAPP no confidence motion is tabled and debated in Parliament on Monday, its very announcement has set off political shock waves in the country confirming the longstanding, widespread and deepseated discontent of the people of Sabah at their unfair treatment by Umno leaders, whether at Federal or State level.

  1. #1 by BoycottLocalPapers on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:37 pm

    Hope MCA, Gerakan, MIC and other component parties in Sabah and Sarawak will join Pakatan Rakyat. For the sake of Malaysian of all races, LET US ALL ABANDON RACIST UMNO FOR THE BETTER FUTURE OF MALAYSIA!

  2. #2 by Anak_Penang on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:43 pm

    Which party do you think will form the next government of Malaysia ?

    Express your feeling at

  3. #3 by NG on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:44 pm

    HAHA. our PM most frighten nightmare will begin.haha!!!!for the MP of SABAH, show PM you all have the balls.

  4. #4 by max2811 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:45 pm

    I don’t think many BN MPs will join PR. It will only give them more bargaining power to ask for more perks and money from AAB. To stay in power, UMNO will rather sell off(gadai) the nation. Though I hope there will be a change of Gov. Just no more UMNO.

  5. #5 by BoycottLocalPapers on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:46 pm

    MCA, GERAKAN, MIC, Tun Lim Keng Yaik, Tan Sri Koh Tsu Koon, Ong Ka Ting, etc, WHAT SAY YE?

    This is not the time to be selfish. Think about your children future in this country.

    Dear Tun Lim Keng Yaik, Dato’ Seri Samy Vellu, and Ong Ka Ting,

    If you are reading this blog, please support Pakatan Rakyat. The Rakyat will appreciate you and forgive your past misdeeds.

  6. #6 by ch on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:50 pm

    Dear All,

    It does appear that the goodies promised by PM Abdullah for Sabah were not sweet and good enough to prevent the bold move by Yong Teck Lee(YTL). It goes to show that they (Sabah politicians) are riddled with discontentment starting from the refusal of two from UMNO to be appointed as Deputy Ministers and now YTL, who is apparently aghast and behest with the lack of speed from the Federal Government acting on several activities reported. This is a defining moment and unprecedented in our nation’s history where politicians from both ruling and opposition standing against a Prime Minister. But then again we should also remember that PM Abdullah is trying hard to fix something which has been purportedly reported as grossly damaged by the former regime?

    Let’s hope for the best by expecting the worse.

  7. #7 by oedipus on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:51 pm

    uncle lim, im just afraid that it will be tabled (sooner or later), and what if its a political ploy to flush out the rats within the BN and also to force the PR to be at loggerheads with each other?

    will DAP be ethical and support the motion? will PKR support the motion also (though i doubt it) or will PAS come out in swinging support of Abdullah Badawi?

    either way, the press will pick it up and drum to BNs’ beat if this political chess goes their way! pls be careful uncle lim.

  8. #8 by limkamput on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:51 pm

    I wish whatever Sabahan MPs and leaders said are true: that the Federal Government has been insensitive, unfair and slow to respond to the needs of ordinary Sabahans. Honestly I am very much in doubt of their sincerity. Sabah has been marginalised and brutalised for more than 30 years and yet successive leaders did nothing but abetted to that marginalisation. By the way, it is led by Yong T L who is no even a MP. What about others, including cabinet ministers? Surely they are slow in coming, although they had been more than 30 years late.

    Just be frank. Just say you want your power back at the time when the Federal Government is substantially weakened. Just say this time around you want to use your power for the good of ordinary Sabahans. It sounds less phoney.

  9. #9 by seaturtle on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:52 pm

    Aiya, no point to bring AAB down… bring BN down la. If AAB step down, then still BN idiot will become PM, what for?? Let AAB be our PM until the whole BN collapse….

  10. #10 by digard on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:55 pm

    “The Parliamentary Standing Orders do not have special provision for a no confidence motion.”

    Interesting. This needs to change; not only for this time and under the circumstances. The Reid-commission has probably overlooked this. I understand that the speaker is and should be allowed to turn down motions deemed irrelevant (that has been abused over time, as we all know).
    On the other hand, there are a list of motions out of the ordinary that the speaker must not be entitled to dismiss. Otherwise, he’d be the most powerful person in the country!

    If a party represented in the high house is of the opinion that the government or the PM have lost the momentum to govern, there cannot be even a thought of dismissing the motion as ‘secondary’.

    Zaid, time for action!

  11. #11 by limkamput on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 4:58 pm

    Precisely. SAPP may not even be joining PK. It may just be playing political game, supporting another BN candidate as PM and extracting more concession for themselves in the process.

  12. #12 by k1980 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:05 pm

    With the billions of ringgit from the cut in petrol subsidies in its war chest, the umno-controlled judiciary may sack the two SAPP MPs, Dr. Chua Soon Bui (Tawau) and Eric Majimbun (Sepanggar) and then hold by-elections. And all MPs considered likely to defect will be sent for special courses in boot camps where the dramatic power of C4 explosives would be displayed to change their minds.

  13. #13 by Anti_NEP on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:09 pm

    MCA and Gerakan are cowards. They have no balls to go against their master. They are call Umno dogs, remember?

  14. #14 by yin_bak on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:14 pm

    Agree with Seaturtle. But bear in mind that we shall still continue to suffer with AAB’s stupid, half-cook decision makings if he continues sitting in that ‘chair’!!

  15. #15 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:29 pm

    We’ll have to see next 2 days for further developments/defections if any.

    From what YB Kit said, it sounds like SAPP (assuming in conjunction with DSAI) embarked on an amateurish attempt without considering standing orders. If they have not consulted you, it is worse, how come such an ambitious project of voting the government out under the auspices of Pakatan Rakyat or its defacto head can be embarked upon without first consulting strategy co-ordination or standing orders with DAP & DAP’s supremo, LKS?? This really eludes me!

    Want to defect – you defect, and number of defections totalling up eventually will, by logic of the situation, dictate the course whether the government will resign & King dissolve parliament for fresh election.

    No need for the melo drama of making public an unprecedented call to move a motion of no confidence on PM in Parliament on Monday when one is not sure whether Parliamentary standing orders support it (or that the Speaker will defect along with you)!

    You are dealing with a government of 50 years reign that has all the reason in the word to remain in power and thwart your ambitious project and you come unprepared! It is like beating the grass to alert the snake.

    What the latest development has precipitated is uncertainty and unpredictability. I am not surprised if BN even imposes emergency rule!

  16. #16 by pkrisnin on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:32 pm

    This is just SAPP’s way of saying they want more. I suspect most of the goodies went mostly to 1 party. That combine with the MB rotation stopping at UMNO Sabah must have made them angry.

  17. #17 by Godfather on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:35 pm

    “It is like beating the grass to alert the snake.”

    No, it is like beating the grass to flush out the snakes. What happens if some renegades within UMNO like Razaleigh also say that they will vote for the motion ? At this juncture, silence from the BN parties will signify tacit approval of the motion and Badawi should know where he stands even before Monday.

  18. #18 by bennylohstocks on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:46 pm

    SAPP makes it happen, to others, why wait?


  19. #19 by hiro on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:49 pm

    Well, between now and Monday, a lot of money from Petronas will be used to put out the raging political wildfire :)

  20. #20 by citizenwatch on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:51 pm

    So when Yong Teck Lee wants PM to step down, is he hoping for Najib to take over? It’s going to be the same old story. Best for SAPP to get out of BN. Unless he is doing a favour for TDM as Yong was under TDM’s leadership before.

  21. #21 by bennylohstocks on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:53 pm

    (error earlier post)
    SAPP makes it happen, why wait?


  22. #22 by voice on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 5:57 pm

    They can’t blame the whole thing on Abdullah, it’s UMNO and the cronies beside Abdullah who made the mess, now everyone seems to forget what UMNO did and the “gangs” in the party, while Abdullah has the responsibility, the UMNO party evil spirit must not be forgotten, we wouldn’t want another Mahathir either, and we don’t want UMNO, the racists’ party.

  23. #23 by citizenwatch on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 6:01 pm

    From Malaysiakini: A poll placed in Sapp’s blog indicated the general feelings on the ground at the moment. The poll asked members of the public whether the party should stay on in BN, leave the coalition but remain independent, or join Pakatan.

    At press time, there were 2,052 votes tallied, with 85 percent (1,749 votes) asking Sapp to join Pakatan. Another 242 (11 percent) want the party to leave BN and remain independent. Only 2 percent (61 votes) urged it to stay on with BN.

  24. #24 by Godfather on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 6:08 pm

    If Najib has any b@lls, he should call on his boss to resign now. Then he should promise the rakyat that all grievances will be looked into, the judiciary will be reformed, the ACA will report to parliament, the AG’s Chambers will report to a prosecutions committee, the recommendations of the IPCMC will be implemented, the country’s finances will be run transparently, there will be competitive tenders for all projects with all tenders being evaluated by external consultants.

    That way, BN will continue to rule the federal government, but then I guess it is just wishful thinking…..

  25. #25 by k1980 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 6:15 pm

    Tawau MP Datuk Chua Soon Bui said that the party had lost confidence in the PM’s leadership. She then read out a statement which listed the reasons why SAPP would support motion of no confidence against Abdullah.

    • No concrete action had been taken on the issue of illegal immigrants despite repeated requests by SAPP and other BN parties.

    • No holistic economic solutions had been offered by the government to cushion sudden increase in petrol prices which had burdened the public.

    • Not enough attention had been paid to issues raised by the people of Sabah including corruption, poor development.

    • People have lost confidence in Abdullah and if he cannot perform, he should step aside and make way for another leader.

  26. #26 by vchi on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 6:16 pm

    Whatever the circumstance, this is crunch time for Pakatan. Any misstep now will cause a massive public erosion of confidence.

    I hope all Pakatan parties will stand united or Malaysians will lose confidence in Pakatan’s ability to govern.

    Proceed carefully!

  27. #27 by sonsofsabah on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 6:21 pm

    First of all, take a deep breath and look at what is going on. I think it is a wise move by SAPP to both test the political water, and at the same time announce to sabahans that they are indeed the only party to champion Sabah’s interest!

    SAPP should stay independent and contest all MP seats in the next election. PM has not been listening to what sabahans feel sacred. I think Anwar suffered worst than PM regarding this issue.

    They should also consider forming another block with both Sabah and Sarawak, and rival BN and PR. After all, there is no guarantee PR will treat Sabah and Sarawak any better than BN.

  28. #28 by hiro on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 6:21 pm

    Uncle Lim, could you be so kind as to make available a copy of our Parliamentary Standing Orders on DAP website please? I’ve googled and wikied and can’t find one. Comparatively, Singapore Parliament Standing Orders are available on the Spore Parliament website. Thanks. By knowing the standing orders, Malaysians could contribute ideas as to how to get around BN placed procedural restrictions. Thanks.

  29. #29 by yhsiew on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 6:48 pm

    I hope the no-confidence motion will succeed and trigger the start of an “UMNO meltdown”.

  30. #30 by Xiao He on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 6:53 pm

    We shall see what will happen in the next few days..

  31. #31 by ShiokGuy on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 7:02 pm

    Calling the Speaker from Sabah!

    Dear Speaker Sir, this is the time for redemption for Sabah and Sarawak! I will watch on TV if it is broadcast life that you are doing a job for the people. Speaker Sir, it is time for us to rise for the occasion.

    You action or inaction will affect your credibility as representative of Sabah and Sarawak!

    On another issue in the star today, I am happy to hear about Selangor MB’s action to take back if possible those concession on basic need of people, like water.

    I have been “bashing” Syabas in my blog since i started blogging 2 months back.. can read about Syabas bashing here..

    I will dig more….

    Shiok Guy

  32. #32 by mybangsamalaysia on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 7:05 pm

    LETUP UMNO!!!!

  33. #33 by pai on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 7:12 pm

    Mr. Yong Teck Lee,
    While you’re making noises about walking out of BN,
    Dr Chong Eng Leong had fired the first shot! By walking out of PBS for its failure to stand up to UMNO’s tacit support for PTI with Project I.C.

    Well done, Dr. Chong! Hopefully your courageous act will trigger a political domino effect in Sabah!

  34. #34 by Mr Smith on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 7:23 pm

    There is one snag though! Say the vote of confidence is allowed and Abdullah loses the vote, with some UMNO MPs voting with the Opposition. But this may not guarantee a victory for Pakatan.
    The King might even call one amongst, namely Razaleigh or Najib to form a government since BN has the majority in Parliament. And they might well succeed.
    Pakatan is revealing all its trump cards. How can it win?

  35. #35 by Godfather on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 7:25 pm

    How can anyone in the right mind expect UMNO to survive ?

    Two weeks after increasing fuel prices by over 40 pct, they announced billions in new projects and grants to Sabah and Sarawak. Then they announce a miserable 10 pct cut in the cabinet allowances.

    Quietly, they gave 1,200 APs to an UMNO putera guy (and a KJ crony) to import hybrid cars. At RM 30,000 per AP, this guy and his partners stand to make RM 36 million. Presumably, the APs will be replenished yearly.

    What sort of government is this ? Getting the fat lady out is simply the means to give control of APs to someone else in UMNO. They obviously think that we are all stupid.

  36. #36 by Godfather on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 7:31 pm


    PR may not be perfect, with warts and all, but they are our only hope. Unlike you, I am not going to wait around for the stealing to go on for a few more years.

  37. #37 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 7:40 pm

    Will there be a political domino effect? This is not certain. Now I am not even certain of the PR’s defacto head (DSAI)’s leadership that he could pull it through to bring others to follow SAPP’s step.

    There are two reasons for this.

    First, I am aghast that when SAPP made announcement for vote of no confidence on PM on Monday, Kit has said that there is no parliamentary standing order providing for it to be done, which suggests to me that this major project to dislodge the BN government has been undertaken by DSAI without proper consultation with DAP’s top leaders or else SAPP would not have opened its cards on something that this thread says is subject to procedural limitation. A notice of 14 days can change everything. During such a time anything can happen. SAPP can change its mind; PAS can join UMNO and even BN can invoke emergency rule. What kind of planning is this???

    Second, when DSAI is supposedly on verge of initiating a take over of government starting with SAPP’s announcement today, PAS Youth, unrestrained by PAS top leadership could throw a spanner in the works by presenting, at this very critical juncture, a memorandum to Selangor Mentri Besar’s Office to protest and demonstrate against performance of rock queen Ella and Dangdut singer MAS Idayu on July 6th, heedless it would alienate non Malays and moderate Malay PR supporters at the time when unity is important before the take over!

    What does that suggest?

    It suggests that even PAS have not been properly consulted and coordinated in the big move scheduled on Monday.

    The fact that PKR and Selangor did and said nothing against PAS memorandum suggests that they don’t care about the image and voice of the DAP state assembly men in the Selangor State Government or that they want to prioritize appeasing PAS and overlook its excesses.

    More important for YB Kit not to be consulted in a major initiative to be launched on Monday (if he had, surely this matter of standing order would not be raised in this thread) it reflects that DAP is of no great standing in Pakatan Rakyat’s scheme of things as run by Anwar which makes DAP’s supporters wonder whether they will really be better off under the new regime led by Anwar appeasing PAS, and not consulting DAP and that tolerating the BN to carry on might not actually be the lesser of the two evils!

  38. #38 by rainbowseahorse on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 7:44 pm

    Hmmm, looks like Yong has started a fire to send his smoke signal to the PM!
    Reading that Yong cunning and manipulative mind, this is most probably what’s going though his grand schemes :
    Step One: Assess Federal UMNO weakness. Ask for Ministerial posts. If unsuccessful go to step Two.

    Step Two: Agree to meet with Opposition parties..none committal on joining..let everybody knows of meeting. Wait for Federal BN to make “counter offers” to assumed Opposition “offers”. If no suitable Federal UMNO counter offers forthcoming or counter offers not acceptable/sufficient, go to Step Three.

    Step Three: Pass on rumors that Sabah BN component parties planning to leave BN due to serious issues not being tackle by Federal BN (i.e. like illegal migrants, etc.). Make it like Sabah BN have people’s best interest at heart of issues to garner support from ignorant Malaysians. Again wait for any or more counter offers from Opposition Parties and Federal UMNO. If still no acceptable/sufficient offers from both parties go to Step Four.

    Step Four:Circulate rumor of a definite date that BN Sabah is going to leave BN, but not definitely joining Opposition parties, maybe as Independent Party. This leaves door wide open for both Federal UMNO and Opposition Parties to make acceptable/sufficient offers.

    Step Five:Wait and see what Federal UMNO or Opposition has to or can offers. If still no positive & lucrative offers forth coming from Federal UMNO, start fire & send smoke signal.

  39. #39 by wesuffer on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 7:50 pm

    i dont agree MCA, MIC AND GERAKAN joining PR. becauce those party were corrupted component party in BN. The leaders is thinking their next generation childrens that why eat so many rakyat money now. Anyone know sami vellu belonged two hill in hulu langat there ? he planing join venture with foreign investor to build casino there! if selangor still under BN goverment, think they started building now

  40. #40 by AhPek on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 7:57 pm

    Do you mean this,Jeffrey….”Tolerating BN to carry on might actually be the lesser of the two evils.” and not “Tolerating BN to carry on might not actually be the lesser of the two evils.” which is what is in your post.

  41. #42 by dawsheng on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 8:17 pm

    I think SAPP should just cut the crap, get a divorce immediately, move out and get a new bed.

  42. #43 by Jameswong on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 8:22 pm

    we can discuss any thing on what we think, but the poll in the SAPP web shows:

    Stay on with BN 143 (3%)

    Leave BN & Non-aligned 481 (10%)

    Leave BN & Join Pakatan 3818 (85%)

    this will shock BN’s stubborn heads that how much people hate them if they still stay at what they are now.

  43. #44 by bennylohstocks on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 8:34 pm

    Oh, what a…


  44. #45 by penang308 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 8:37 pm

    Bravo SAPP!

    This is just the beginning, I don’t expect those Penisular base parties like MCA, MIC, Gerakan, PPP etc to support the motion on monday in parlimet.

    The ball is now in other Sabah base BN parties to decide the fate of BN. We in Penisular already shows you the way, it is up to you to follow!

    Sabah and Sarawak are riches in natural resources but what did you get in return? Where is your highway? Where is your rail services?

    In Penang, there are so many Sarawakian working in Advertise Hospital! Why is this happening?

    It is time for you guys to say “JOM UBAH”!

  45. #46 by ktteokt on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 8:46 pm

    After what AAB did in the last 100 days, this is the expected result!

  46. #47 by PSM on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 8:53 pm

    Let’s be very careful!
    If it’s to make the PR the next Federal Government, by all means go for it!
    However, if it’s to get rid of Pak Lah, well…what will happen if Pak Lah goes is that Rosmah Mansor will be PM!!!!!
    If that happens, God help us for Malaysia will be entering into another “Dark Period”!!!!!

  47. #48 by caishen on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 8:59 pm

    Extract from the Star.
    ” PM says SAPP leader acted out of ‘personal greed’

    PUTRAJAYA: Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi says Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) President Datuk Yong Teck Lee’s latest action has been due to the fact that “I have not been able to satisfy his personal greed.”

    Abdullah did not elaborate. However, his aides told Bernama that the Prime Minister would elaborate at a later date.

    Yong declared in Kota Kinabalu Wednesday that his party had lost confidence in Abdullah”……..

    Salute to Sdr.LKS and DSAI..
    their strategies of disintegrate the BN parties is working.
    tearing 10% of the representatives in BN…
    Whether SAPP is joining PAKATAN is irrevelant now….
    BN is on the verse of collapsing….

  48. #49 by katdog on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:00 pm

    Is SAPP truly leading the way or merely taking opportunity of the situation?

    Why would they need to make such an open declaration? Is it to encourage other BN MP’s to defect or merely to garner more favours for itself?

    Only time will tell.

  49. #50 by robert wong on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:04 pm

    The SAPP moves is a wake up call to all BN govt. and PR alike . The plight of SABAHAN AND SARAWAKIAN has reached a critical point. All this while Sabah and Sarawak has been left out from the main stream of development. It’s a lesson to be learned for PR as well !!!

  50. #51 by Godfather on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:06 pm

    Yong Teck Lee doesn’t have a stellar reputation – like all typical Sabah politicians. It’s a question of who can satisfy more of his demands.

  51. #52 by patriotic1994 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:07 pm

    Sorry for distraction…

    I stumbled upon this page by RTM Malaysia, long time ago article.

    It was laughing at Kit.

    Nobody comment that article.

    Then I checked the latest post, it was until Jan 2008!

    Make me think RTM is only meant to be biased.

  52. #53 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:24 pm

    Ah Pek, it should be the first said by you – thanks for correcting the mistake.

  53. #54 by Better Future on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:31 pm

    SAPP should just join Pakatan Rakyat instead of voting for no confidence vote. I think they are trying to let AAB to counter offer. All BN components party is damm greedy like the running dog MCA which came out to support immediately. MCA is like ” Hon Kan”.

  54. #55 by rainbowseahorse on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 9:50 pm

    Yong is not a clean politician and has plenty of skeletons in his closet. By making that announcement, he is being fool hardy as opportunistic greed has over ride caution. Pak Lah is now totally pissed off now and he is not the forgiving type.

    Yong, you have badly miscalculated! You will be such a dead duck!

  55. #56 by katdog on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:00 pm

    Unless Yong is getting support from number 2 Najib to pressure Abdullah to give way faster.

  56. #57 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:08 pm

    A ‘motion of no confidence’ in the Prime Minister does succeed in certain situations and may even be the only way out of a political impasse – and very likely to succeed when it is bipartisan. This one looks like it is tailor made for just such a situation.

    What happens then? Will the ruling coalition appoint another among their own to take his place? Or will there be a request to the King to dissolve Parliament and hold fresh elections? Will the King deny that request and force the ruling coalition to appoint one among their own to replace him? Has the King the discretion under our Constitution?

    Any constitutional law expert here? Jefferey QC?

  57. #58 by zagato on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:18 pm

    I bet PR will not support the motion if it is tabled. A weak PM is an asset to Pakatan Rakyat.

  58. #59 by winsoontan on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:29 pm

    Look likes a lot of people here support the move. For me i think we must have a peaceful country and good government!

  59. #60 by AhPek on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:36 pm

    But first thing first …Will the Speaker allow the motion to be tabled?

  60. #61 by Godfather on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:39 pm

    It doesn’t matter if the Speaker disallows it. Either by then SAPP has further support from other parties, or it will have to exit from BN – the polls suggest that a vast majority of their supporters want them to quit anyway.

    It may also end up as a storm in a teacup in that nothing else happens for the time being. It may be a good strategy for Sleepy Head to remain asleep – and the little storm may just pass with little or no consequence.

  61. #62 by alancheah on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:53 pm

    Time to CHANGE!

    Good Luck to Malaysia!

  62. #63 by k1980 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:54 pm

    This buggah is probably thinking: “Why the hell didn’t I crop up sodomy charges against Ah Yong before the elections? Then he would be languishing behind bars with a black eye and unable to table a motion of no confidence in me…Regrets, regrets, Bah!”

  63. #64 by winsoontan on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 10:55 pm

    The MPs should always think of Rakyat! Dont think of yourselve only!
    Whatever you do, first, must for Rakyat, Second also for Rakyat, Third , do not forget of you represent Rakyat!

  64. #65 by blablowbla on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:00 pm

    things are getting more and more interesting!

    MCA OngKT said we need to have a politically stable situation in our country,may i ask you mr.Ong KT,for the past 50 years,our country was very stable ,how much UMNO ,MCA and MIC leaders had siphoned off the ill-gotten gains???few trillion???

    so,both of these sumbag parties still try to show their ‘loyalty’ to the ‘deadman’,have they forgotten the way UMNO youths treated them and the ‘deadman’ not even bothered to intervene!

    OngKT and Samy got no balls!

  65. #66 by Ahila on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:10 pm

    many will be happy if Sapp jumps ship….me too!
    But past history reminds me that Yong Teck Lee is not only cunning but deadly greedy.What if all these are for personal gain?

    They are probably testing the PM……..expecting something Big.oNLY goD KNOWS ! iF THEY ARE SINCERE ………gOOD FOR THEM AND uS. OnLy GOd KNoWs…………………..

  66. #67 by blablowbla on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:17 pm

    yes,have both of you forgotten too when they said they dont require any other party?a shame on both of youlah OngKT and Samy!!!

    i can understand how both of you feel,like ‘chow mai fun’ is ‘jobless’ now,you all may follow suite right??? :-)

  67. #68 by Kasim Amat on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:18 pm

    Well done, Yong Teck Lee, the traitor manifest himself again. SAPP is just a small party, even it leaves BN it will not affect the unity of other member parties of BN. On the other hand, it will test the loyalty of other member parties and I don’t think either MCA or MIC want to be labelled as traitor for leaving BN. Further. MCA and MIC have already vowed to support for BN and UMNO no matter what happens. With MCA and MIC, being the two largest parties in their own respective ethnic group, BN is not going to fold so easily so you guys who commented that BN’s days are counting are totally dreaming!

  68. #69 by cvl on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:19 pm

    Yong’s enigmatic call for a no confidence vote this coming Monday blends very much in the political camouflage of the moment, where the flavor is for the AAB to step down. Yong knows well enough he and SAPP do not have the clout to move the no confidence vote, therefore concluding his salvo was aimed at other more mundane

    So why did Yong make that announcement?

    For one, SAPP statements today just may not be a morning cock crow; more like a hunter’s grouse call to draw out the wild grouses, both for the shootout, and for population estimation. Indeed far from heralding a new dawn as would be when others join in to crow the morning, Yong was simply delivering a product to both DSAI and KJ at the same time. Ever since the GE 12 both DSAI and KJ have been in open patrol for dissenting factions in UMNO albeit operating from different home base, with apparent different reasons. So for Yong, two birds with one stone?

    Secondly, DAP and PKR are both eroding SAPP base in Sabah. Yong has to reinvent and learn fast from GERAKAN / MCA/MIC misfortunes. Or forever be cast in political wilderness. How best but to champion issues that are close to Sabahan hearts.

    Thirdly, Yong and Musa Aman go back a long way, even up to family ties. If Musa has been salvaged by ABB, it fall within the scheme of things for Yong to make the grouse call.

    Fourthly, Yong is fully aware how PBS tumbled from a position of power when they aligned themselves to Semangat. So to repeat similar step in earnest, Yong would have shored some more.

    No, as someone else said, Yong does not have any stellar precedents. He is just being politically busy to grab attention for SAPP survival.

  69. #70 by KennyGan on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:20 pm

    It doesn’t matter if the motion of no confidence succeeds or not. SAPP will have to pull out of BN, this is clear. This may start a domino effect of other disgrunted parties/MPs pulling out of BN. Whether they become independent or join PR, the effect is the same on BN – a possible loss of majority in parliament.

  70. #71 by Kasim Amat on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:20 pm

    so please don’t be detracted by Yong because of his personal greed.

  71. #72 by blablowbla on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:20 pm

    OngKT and Samy looked at YTL:you jumped we no jump,yet!

  72. #73 by blablowbla on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:25 pm

    Kasim Amat,talking about greed,UMNO will take Champion,1st Runner-up,and 2nd Runner-up!if Olympic has this competition,we will surely win!!!

  73. #74 by k1980 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:42 pm

    This is a classic example of thieves falling out over their loot, due to their greed

  74. #75 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:52 pm

    “No need for the melo drama of making public an unprecedented call to move a motion of no confidence on PM in Parliament on Monday when one is not sure whether Parliamentary standing orders support it (or that the Speaker will defect along with you)! ” JeffreyQC

    What you do is you try when you got nothing to lose. If it does not go to the floor, then maybe better luck next time. But melodrama?? I don’t think so.

  75. #76 by The Enforcer on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 - 11:58 pm

    Uncle Lim, out of curiousity, did YTL approach PR, hinted to PR or DSAI about their intentions before they let the cat out of the bag? If no, then this YTL is only out “fishing” AAB for better perks for personal gains. Am sure YTL has feedback from his grassroot and if he is sincere about the rakyat then come out and say it out. Do not let PR have fear of your kind intentions.
    Everyone is asking for sleepy head to step down. Ask ourselves do we want any other of the GOONS in UMNO to take his place? Who else in there can we RAKYAT trust our and our children’s future to? The whole team needs to be changed (government). Yes, PR is still an infant but there are some with “substance” in the team. It’s better to take risks with someone new then to be slaughtered by the crooked!!! They’ve done it for far too long already.
    By the way, uncle Lim, is the bond between the PR team ( the parties) as strong as before GE 12? There seems to be a number of cracks appearing within. If this is so, then the rakyat should know what is it and how the team is trying to rectify it. Tell the team to make decisions with conscience and not to make the rakyat suffer further. Do not forget that it is the rakyat who can make things happen ( thru the pen and paper). Have a good day uncle Lim!

  76. #77 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:00 am

    “With the ruling coalition commanding unbroken two-thirds parliamentary majority in the 11 general elections since Merdeka in 1957 until the recent political tsunami of the March 2008 general election, there had never been any no confidence motion against the Prime Minister in Malaysian parliamentary history.” Kit

    Obviously a partisan motion cannot succeed. What if it is bipartisan? What it takes is for a handful of renegade MPs to ignore party rules.

  77. #78 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:03 am

    Any in-fighting within PR as to who should lead and should have been consulted first is bad – an ominous sign of what is ahead!

  78. #79 by raven77 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:17 am

    This Yong guy is surely taking advantage of Badawi’s weak situation and may be acting out of personal greed rather then his endearment to Sabah’s loss of its sovereignity…..his move must surely be a catalyst for the break-up of this bunch of thieves who have been merrily looting the public’s money….it is unnerving that they should be associated with the DAP which has been consistent in its principles of sound governance….

  79. #80 by Anak Malaysia on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:51 am

    Dear Malaysians and Muslim Brothers & Sisters,

    The wave of “Political Tsunami” has travelled very fast within 100 days from the West coast of Penang and reached the East coast of Sabah today. What a SHOCKING breaking news from a political component party of BN, SAPP to sound their strong tsunami warning voices on vote of “NO CONFIDENCE” against their loyal MASTER, PM of Malaysia? It is indeed a symbolic history i.e. ” Hari Ini Dalam Sejarah Malaysia” that all Malaysians will brave enough to sack or fire the PM on the forthcoming Parliament sitting on Black Monday, 23 June 2008.

    Well! We, PR Malaysians and foreign investors are observing and waiting eagerly to see how strong the political climate and the strong tsunami waves from Sabah is going to change the political landscape of Malaysian government after UMNO leads ruled with iron fist on their components parties to obey their orders, no questions and yes men, Sir for past 50 long years since independence of Malaya.

    Furthermore, the drastic actions by SAPP MPs to put up such motion in the coming Parliament sitting on black Monday is an acid test against the other UMNO MPs like KULI and MUKHRIZ to support their past calls to pressure Pak Lah to step down. We yet to observe both MPs walk the talk or purely “cakap kosong” only.

    Interesting to receive an interesting e-mail from a senior fuel engineer of Sabah tribe smart guy informed our comrades Arabian, fuel engineers stationed in oil states; Sabah, Sawarak and Kelantan. Our comrade, Sabahan engineer is sad to tell us that Sabah is the third richest petrol producer state and also a rich natural resources exporter. Today Sabah is the poorest state in Malaysia. Believe it or not ? Where are billions of ringgit from Sabah?

    We are sad and shocked to see the population of illegal immigrants from neighbouring countries are invading Sabah. Such big illegals migration is a national threat to the sovereignity of Malaysia today. Increase in crime rates and hardcore poor of the local Sabah people are increasing daily with the increase prices of essential goods and services.

    Yes, the email indicated the TRUE about SAPP’s 14 points submitted to PM for his kind consideration and the response on each point from Federal government todate as follows:-

    1. Political autonomy should be enhanced so that Sabah can manage its own affairs, including the implementation of the Sabah Development Corridor, 9th Malaysia Plan projects and the civil service.
    Response from the Federal Government? None.

    2. Respect for and recognition of the State Government under the leadership of the Chief Minister of the day. At times, Sabah representatives bad mouth other Sabah leaders in front of federal leaders. This has made Sabah look divided and therefore easily manipulated.
    Response from the Federal Government? None.

    3. Sabah needs increased representation at the national political (Cabinet) and administrative (civil service) main stream and revival of the Ministry of Special Affairs for Sabah and Sarawak.
    Response from the Federal Government?
    PM announced to/for civil service. No reply on Minister of Special Affairs.

    4. A non-racial approach to national unity and the empowerment of minority groups are also important in nation building to stop the polarization of racial
    and religious communities in the country.
    Response from the Federal Government? None.

    5. There is also a need to clarify once and for all the validity of post-NEP New Economic Policy) policies so that any affirmative action must reach the target groups, irrespective of race, that is the people truly in need of assistance.
    Response from the Federal Government? No clarification to date.

    6. The government must embark on an immediate action plan to solve the illegal immigrant situation in Sabah, including the syndicated My Kad and other dubious documents, that has been a source of unhappiness among the people.
    Response from the Federal Government? Cabinet Committee merely window dressing.
    (Same committee was announced in 2004)

    7. The closure of the JPPS (Federal Department of Development) in Sabah. The reason for JPPS’s existence is long gone.
    Response from the Federal Government? Closure affirmative, only after more than a decade. 38 local staff not given post.

    8. Abolition of the double taxation on oil palm in the form of cooking oil subsidies paid ever since June 2007. This taxation should be refunded to the oil palm planters concerned. On the other hand, Sabah does not benefit from the other rice-producing regions in the country. In fact, we pay more for the rice that we consume in Sabah.
    Response from the Federal Government? A new tax of 7.5% will be imposed on CPO millers in Sabah and Sarawak and 15% from Peninsular Malaysia. Questionable Windfall Profit Levy.

    9. To address the higher freight charges, exorbitant air fares, increasing costs of living, inefficient internet broad band services, electric power break downs, bureaucratic red tape and a host of other entrenched interests (BERNAS monopoly, proton car prices, newspaper prices, KLIA-spoke and wheel policy (against an open air policy), etc..) have staked up against a State like Sabah.
    Response from the Federal Government? No action.

    10. Federal negligence, the abrupt way that the Money Lenders Act 1951 (Act 400) was extended to Sabah on 1 January 2008. No mechanism was put in place to administer the new law. This has caused much confusion, financial losses and potential legal disputes in Sabah. How can this be allowed to happen in the first place? How can the Sabah Money Lenders Ordinance 1901 (Sabah Cap 81) be brushed aside just like that? Where is the hurry to displace an already established administration of the Sabah Money Lenders Ordinance that has worked well for a century? Now, Sabah is left to bear the consequent losses.
    Response from the Federal Government? None.

    11. Proposal to make legally binding (on the Federal Treasury) the compensation of loss of revenues due to Sabah under the Part V of the 10th Schedule of the Federal Constitution (Additional Sources of Revenue Assigned to Borneo States).
    This relates to import duty and excise duty on petroleum products in Sabah and Sarawak. Parliamentary amendments (necessitated by the Asean Free Trade Area (AFTA)pact) to the Sales Tax Act 1972 in 1999 had caused Sabah and Sarawak to lose this revenue which amounted to about RM 200 million per annum per state.
    Response from the Federal Government? None.

    12. The Special Status of the High Courts in Sabah and Sarawak under Article 121 of the Federal Constitution must be borne in mind too. The amendments to the Sabah Advocates Ordinance 1953 proposed by the Sabah Law Association has been long overdue to be made into federal law. This is so that the Legal Profession Act need not be extended to Sabah (and Sarawak).
    Response from the Federal Government? None.

    13. Proposal that Petronas money should be used to build the Labuan bridge because Labuan needs a bridge to the main land.
    Response from the Federal Government? None.

    14. To seek an increase of oil royalties to 20%.
    Response from the Federal Government? None.

    Well, Do Malaysians agreed with 14 points and feedback answers?

    We, Arabian engineers are damn pity and sad to see and witness the suffering of the people of Sabah for many years. For instance, local students have to travel 10km daily to/fro by walking without transport to schools, students and teachers have to sit on the floors without tables and chairs, local hawkers businesses suffered when cheap illegal hawkers took over, unemployment of local Sabahans are very high due to cheap illegal labors and etc.

    What a SHAME to Kasim Amat for his silly statement? Do SAPP President Yong is fighting for his personal greeds ? Similar statement is made by your beloved PM about him today.

    We wonder who is telling all Malaysians the “TRUTH but nothing must be the TRUTH” in thisTsunami wave in Sabah today.

    UMNO President or SAPP President ????????

    SAPP President …14 points are TRUE here ? or
    UMNO President….said pending to reveal personal greeds of SAPP President coming soon?

    Last but not least, Pakatan Rakyat are celebrating their 100 days Victory on June 21, 2008, but BN was hit by another big Tsunami waves from Sabah. What next in the political sandiwara of Malaysia ? What happen to the Sawarakians are still supporting Pak Lah rain or shine ?

    Let read the negative effects on the economy of Malaysia when the political Tsunami hits Sabah today ?

    Bursa shares are tumbling down in RED for good buy or sell? Foreign investors are staying away from parking their billions due to instability of political scenario ? Prices of major commodities are increasing in world markets, high prices of foods are here to stay, devaluation of RM agains other major currencies like Kuwaiti Dinar, SGD and USD, anger of people are boiling hot with prices hike daily due announcements by business people ……many other negative comments by both sides of the political groups.

    We, PR Malaysians are getting richer by days when our Kuwaiti Dinar is getting stronger when RM is getting weaker (i.e 1KwDinar= RM12.26). Our Arabian investment is getting profitable with currency exchange of 1SGD = RM2.38 today.

    We, PR Malaysians are concerned and showed our sincere support to all Malaysians regardless of races and religions. You are the JUDGE today. InsyAllah !!



    Al-Sheikh Ahmeed Al-Malmudi Fuad
    (Retired) Senior Fuel Engineer & Analyst

  80. #81 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 1:05 am

    SAPP and its chief Yong Teck Lee are not waiting for counter offer. Otherwise they would have negotiated behind scenes and not have gone public & by inflicting irreparable damage pass the point of no return. It looks like a two-step move, first an announcement of intent to move motion of no confidence – see what happens- and then to be followed by Sapp pulling out of or otherwise kicked out by BN.

    Opportunistic greed is always a factor but they’re not trying luck here but acting in concert with unseen hand of DSAI who has stitched certain arrangements – for eg PKR’s commitment to Sabahans, bumiputera and otherwise, include 20 percent oil royalties to Sabah, Sarawak and Terengganu, as well as proportionate and just representation for Sabah and Sarawak within PR- specifics of which I doubt DAP/PAS or its leaders are privy.

    PAS information chief and Pokok Sena MP Mahfuz Omar response : “I’m not sure what Sapp’s agenda is. Is their dissatisfaction targeted at Abdullah or is it at BN? I am still waiting to know their reasons”

    Guan Eng just as confused – “How could one maintain their loyalty to BN while at the same time move a motion of no confidence against the coalition’s top leader? It’s confusing and unusual.”

    YB Kit : “The Parliamentary Standing Orders do not have special provision for a no confidence motion”.
    Contrast this to what Anwar said: “I have had two discussions previously with Sapp president Yong Teck Lee…The core issues at hand are those of good governance and dedication to the principles of accountability… PKR’s commitment to Sabahans, bumiputera and otherwise, include 20 percent oil royalties to Sabah, Sarawak and Terengganu, as well as proportionate and just representation for Sabah and Sarawak. (Note : he said PKR’s commitment – not Pakatan Rakyat’s commitment)…I am happy with these early actions and call upon other friends to act quickly…”

    And Selangor menteri besar and Bandar Tun Razak MP Khalid Ibrahim said “As part of Pakatan Rakyat, of course we welcome the participation of a new member into the group. But we will work together towards establishing a more people-oriented Malaysia. SINCE I CANNOT REVEAL ANY MORE OR COMMENT ON THIS ANY FURTHER, the message will be passed to the public among other things during the festivities of our 100 days celebration”.

    Source : Malaysiakini Soon Li Tsin & Athi Veerangan | Jun 18, 08 7:36pm.

  81. #82 by malaysi0n on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 1:22 am

    this shows SAPP really work for Sabah PEOPLE …. you’re in a ship called BN which is now cracking … either repair it or pull your people out to another ship(PR) …. you still want to be in the carcked ship??

  82. #83 by Richardqed on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:05 am

    It looks like AAB has nothing in answer to the reasons given by the SAPP as to why they are planning to move a no-confidence motion against him.

    All he’s got to say is Yong Teck Lee is a greedy guy, and why Yong has initiated this etc.

    Come on, AAB, this is not the way to gain the rakyat’s confidence. Refute the points brought up by the SAPP if you can.

  83. #84 by doggone on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:23 am

    Yes, I believe that SAPP is trying to bait the BN MP’s objections and the Speaker’s refusal to table the motion to get an excuse to leave the coalition. Knowing AAB’s as a person who hold a grudge, there will be no further discussion on ‘giving more’ to Yong’s demands. I am very sure SAPP will announce their plan to leave the BN coalition before the month ends.

  84. #85 by HJ Angus on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 5:41 am

    SAPP could be just the catalyst for more parties to make similar moves.
    Guess the others will wait to see if they are expelled which I think will happen.
    But I don’t think this small party’s action will cause the government to fall.

  85. #86 by tourman53 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 6:20 am

    To all the BN strong supporters,
    What are you all waiting for? The founder of the ‘Wawasan 2020′(vision 2020) has left the party.
    For those who’re still dreaming wake up !! Join BR.

  86. #87 by Ah Deng on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 6:24 am

    One more issue – do you guys know that POS Malaysia Berhad belongs to ECM Libra? Who is boss of this ECM Libra? Rupa-rupanya, Son in law of our beloved Pak Lah…..That’s explain the reason why all fuel subsidies must be given to Pos Malaysia for distribution to rakyat so they can hisap darah of rakyat…that’s their nature, don’t blame them but we can kick their assssssss.

  87. #88 by Kathy on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 6:40 am

    It is pointless for us to want the current PM to step down. As far as I can see, it is an internal matter for BN. Better have AAB than others at this moment is how I feel.

    Why should be get politicians from the component parties of BN to join PR? Haven’t they taken out of the Rakyat’s coffers more than enough already????? It would be better to select those that are capable and more transparent in their dealings to join – no to blanket invitation to these component members.

    Can we have back Chua Soi Lek as the Health Minister? At least someone from MCA is actually doing a good job before the leaders decided to take him out – that shows how shallow his own party leaders are.

  88. #89 by k1980 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:22 am

    SAPP will find it impossible to raise the motion on Monday because both the ordinary and substantive motions require a member of parliament to give sufficient notice to the House.

    Fourteen days’ notice is required for an ordinary motion, and two days for a substantive motion.

    So Yong’s threat is just for show. Under the mamak, he and his gang would be under house arrest by now.

  89. #90 by hotsync on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:34 am

    AAB still sleeping ZZZzzzzzZZZZZ I dunno? Too Late now. Lets wait until Friday. The news channel clearly showed the state of Sabah that is in poverty and ruins. Pictures showed a true bumiputra using bamboo to collect and store water, muddy roads, ghost town and worst still crowded with millions of Project IC pendatang. Indeed the situation is getting worst. We need to make a stand and thats what SAPP did! Empty promises.

    Mums can’t afford milk powder to feed their babies living in the so called billion dollar corridor. People face with inflation, higher living standards. Are we better off today?

    After the 40% fuel hike now want to abolish toll, road tax, excise tax on cars???? First AAB claimed that fuel subsidy is hurting the country but now his gov can start proposing so called “winning” suggestions to bring back confidence to the BN party. Doesnt make sense at all Flip-Flop gov. AAB and his bunch of stooges really think that the rakyat is stupid indeed. They cut us up then try to “heal” us using bits of handyplast here and there.

    No vote of confidence from me too!

  90. #91 by BlackEye on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:41 am

    “Whether the SAPP no confidence motion is tabled and debated in Parliament on Monday, its very announcement has set off political shock waves in the country….” YB Kit

    Good for Malaysian politics and democracy.

  91. #92 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:59 am

    Kasim Amat:

    I for one don’t care if SAPP succeeds in toppling your beloved leader Badawi or not. I don’t care if Yong Teck Lee had an agenda of personal greed, as alleged by your beloved leader. I just want you to answer this question:

    Just when your beloved leader Badawi announced a 40+ pct hike in fuel prices, the AP committee chaired by Najis agreed to issue 1200 APs to an UMNOputera crony and a friend of KJ’s. At RM 30,000 per AP, this comes to RM 36 million.

    Your beloved leader promised transparency, so can you ask him to tell us who the other “lucky” recipients of APs are in the current year ? Are you going to condemn the issuance of APs as “nothing more than personal greed”?

  92. #93 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 8:15 am

    In the unlikely event that the vote of no confidence succeeds, we should expect the PM to just resign. He is not going to ask the King to dissolve Parliament and hold fresh general elections. That would be bad news for the ruling coalition.

  93. #94 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 8:30 am

    BN will be trounced badly if elections were to be held today. They should just cut their losses, and dump the Sleepy Head. Unfortunately Najis just doesn’t have the b@lls to precipitate it.

  94. #95 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 8:38 am

    Kathy Says:

    Today at 06: 40.13 (1 hour ago)
    It is pointless for us to want the current PM to step down. As far as I can see, it is an internal matter for BN.”

    Why is it “pointless” for Malaysians who have no confidence in their Prime Minister wanting him to step down? There is every point to want to resolve the leadership crisis within the ruling party, to prevent the administration from being mired in lackadaisical management of the nation’s problems. How could that be an internal matter for the party to resolve and no one else’s? It doesn’t make sense.

    A vote of no confidence if it comes usually comes from the opposition and rarely from the ruling party. But occasionally it does.

    In this particular case, Abdullah Badawi is likely to resign and not seek the Agong’s consent for a fresh general elections. The likely person to succeed him is his deputy and that is according to convention.

  95. #96 by robert wong on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 8:52 am

    Couldn’t agree more with ANAK MALAYSIA . Not all politicians are good listeners. Ordinary genuine Sabahan ( not Sabah BN politicians) has been suffered for as long as UMNO started set it’s foot on Sabah soil. YTL is taking avantage of the once-for-life-time opportunity to start the ‘snow-ball’ rolling. The climate is just right for making the snow-ball.

  96. #97 by seage on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:06 am

    YTL and Pigi Lah has both taken a step of no return. While YTL mentioned his intention/statement, it is still rectifiable by Pigi Lah, but once Pigi Lah said the following, it seals the fate of the road-of-no-return to both:

    PUTRAJAYA: Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi says Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) President Datuk Yong Teck Lee’s latest action has been due to the fact that “I have not been able to satisfy his personal greed.”

    Why is that so? When Pigi Lah said “I have not been able to satisfy his personal greed.”, it also implies that Pigi Lah usually will satisfy personal greed, just that YTL personal greed is too great for him to satisfy. It is as good as Pigi Lah admitting to his usual modus operandi in governing via satisfying greed (Greed being defined as excessive desire to acquire or possess more than one needs or deserves).

    It would be suffice for Pigi Lah to say that “He has acted out of sheer greed”, rather than admitting his inability to satisfy such greed. Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. It only goes so much to tell that Pigi Lah is a person who will not hesitate to dish out “goodies” (As was demonstrated lately) to fulfill his own motives (political or otherwise).

    So lets see what he has to say “on a later date”. Be it another tsunami or not (fingers crossed), Malaysians are definitely being given free tickets to watch reality movies one after the other.

    Makkal Sakhti!

  97. #98 by Bigjoe on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:09 am

    From all the issues raised about whether a no-confidence vote can be tabled or not even as the news break, I am wondering if SAPP Yong and the MPs understood it when they made their decision.

    Its important because it calls into question what they were thinking of. If they knew it and decided to do this then its clear Yong is playing his own game separate from what Anwar and PR has in mind. The drama is far from over.

    But if they did not realise it, then it calls into question whether their plans are well-thought out or not. Will we see mass defection in Sabah followed by other states?

  98. #99 by k1980 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:10 am

    It is pointless for us to want the current PM to step down—-

    Take the analogy of Chiang Kai shek not being forced out by Mao. Then China today would be like Afghanistan and Myanmar combined, a military dictatorship lording over an opium-striken population of billions, where famine and conflict stalk the land, colonised and plundered by foreign powers.

  99. #100 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:12 am


    We all know that Badawi has been trying to satisfy people’s personal greed from Day One ! Starting with his family.

  100. #101 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:13 am

    And that clown Kasim Amat tries so hard to parrot his beloved master’s words about Yong Teck Lee.

    Kasim,, how about asking your master to satisfy my personal greed so that I tone down my criticism of your master ?

  101. #102 by lakilompat on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:18 am

    All these ppl. Pak Lah has satisfied their personal greed are as below:-
    1) Ong Ka Ting – PKFZ RM 4.6 billion bailout
    Result:- Step down, MCA lost trust from chinese community
    2) Najis – Commission from Shukoi jet & Scorpene submarine
    Result:- Shud dap like a dog, not dare to utter anything have to wait for giliran like school kid. Atlantuya case pending.
    3) Koh Tsu Koon – Commission from Motorola contract
    Result:- Gerakan lost all the seat in penang, All penangites hated Gerakan and felt betrayed by his 17 years doing nothing.
    4) Kamaludin – SCOMI
    Result:- The LRT is poorly maintained, anything from air to sea you named it, SCOMI will bid the contract.
    5) Curry – ACM-Libra, TENC Boutique, Penang Turf Club
    Result:- Leader of Mat Rempit, billionaires Boneka, soon become president of FAM with his MYteam debut.
    6) Patrick Lim – PGCC
    Result:- Empty blank cheque.
    7) Sammy – Commission from tolls, commission from contract for building.
    Result:-MIC kalah teruk! this old man has nothing to be conferred by the Agong, all these years of corrupt practice has brought him down.
    8) Rafidah – AP Queen
    Result:- No cabinet post for her.

  102. #103 by oknyua on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:24 am

    Al-Sheikh Ahmeed Al-Malmudi Fuad,

    My respect and salute to you, sir. I don’t think KPMU’s Kassim Amat has subtantial rebuttal other than the usual UMNO’s rhetoric to reply to you.

  103. #104 by lakilompat on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:24 am

    Pak Lah is like a Malay dictator who awards those who support him thru rewards and personal promises like MB post, contract, commissions, title, and many more. He is also the first PM of Malaysia to dictate a souring fuel price of RM 2.70 per liter for all Malaysian without consulting the parliament.

    Any form of Dictatorship in Malaysia by weak leader, should be condemned.

    PL has become like Musolini of Italy, Chiang Kai Shek of KMT, and Chen Sui Bien in Taiwan. Dictating every thing from MB appointment to fuel price hikes.

    The Rakyat shud get rid of him before he plunder the country coffer dry.

  104. #105 by seage on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:31 am

    Godfather… Well, not many may be as discerning as you to tell that Pigi Lah did that from day One, so its good to keep pointing out evidence of such quality in him.

  105. #106 by oknyua on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:35 am

    Big Joe,

    I was thinking along that line when Yong TL made his announcement. But the more I think of it the more I realised he is playing along a different game-plan. Yong YL can’t call for AAB’s resignation; SAPP is a minor component party subservient to UMNO in the alliance. He knows that and AAB’s resignation’s call can only be made by UMNO.

    But there could be other things brewing. If you see today’s reaction from UMNO (esp. Rastam guy), Yong TL is already gearing for another manoeuvre. Right now we can only guess; but sit tight as the game unfolds.

  106. #107 by konek on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 9:40 am

    You do not get it.

    Malaysia cannot survive with this kind of mindset. This kind of mindset existed because of ignorance.

    Ask yourself a simple question. After 30 years and trillion worth of oil money, why we still have 1/3 of the rural schools without water and electricity? Who did this to you? Who has the political power?

    There are 50 billions worth of oil money every year for the past 30 years. Even a simple policy of distributing oil money to every malay would have killed poverty totally.

    Do not blame it on non-malays. Non-malays do not have the power to make this happen.

  107. #108 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 10:23 am

    Yes, non-Malays never had the power to steal. Only UMNO had the power to steal the country blind, and they depend on sycophants in MCA and MIC to assist them in the theft.

    That is why we are where we are.

  108. #109 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 10:25 am

    We have to take away the keys to the piggy bank from UMNO or else there is no future.

    Kasim Amat, will you ask your masters to sue me now for slander ?

  109. #110 by lupus on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 10:44 am

    How many does it take for BN to collapse from Govt ? Afterall, if more people are pulling out from BN, it cannot form Govt. SAPP maybe a small party but I like to see UNMO form Govt alone like to said to the other party in the previous election.

  110. #111 by cheng on soo on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 10:49 am

    If one day say in 2019, or 2020 (when petrol run dry), and life in Msia get real tough for every average Msia., Hope the bumi will not blame the non bumi for this tough life. they (the bumi) should know who is (or was) the culprit.

  111. #112 by mysn1st on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:01 am

    Thank you for the elaboration. I believe Malaysian need this kind of explanations from your which can assist us to think mature and get to know more about the important role of Parliament.

  112. #113 by rainbowseahorse on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:05 am

    “I have not been able to satisfy his personal greed!” Pak Lah retorted, and, “I’ll elaborate at a later date”.

    First, it confirmed that there was indeed some negotiations for Sabah MPs to stay put in BN.

    Second, Pak Lah is not sure what incriminating dossiers he has on Yong and so has to check with his “special branch” before elaborating.

    It occurred to me the similarity of Tun M trying to force a vote of no confidence on Pak Lah but which didn’t get the desired effect. Now Yong was one of the rotating CM of Sabah under Tun M admin, and Yong immediately spent the two years in power busy enriching himself instead of tackling all the problems besetting Sabah which he is so very busy highlighting and championing NOW. Under this scenario, if anybody got a dossier on Yong of his past deeds, it would be Tun M and not Pak Lah. So the question now is whether Tun M is pulling all the strings to make Yong dance and sing! It doesn’t matter that SAPP is a very minor BN component party, nor does the fact that SAPP cannot call for the motion of no confidence against the PM. The game plan is for SAPP to sensationalize what Tun M failed to do with the hope that it would jolt some very disgruntled UMNO MP or MPs to follow through with the motion against Pak Lah. Yong and his two miserly MPs would have been “taken care of” by Tun M and so it does not matter whether they are kicked out of the BN or not as Yong will get what he wants. Only problem for Yong is that someone else might have a copy of that dossier on him, in which case, Yong will indeed be such a dead duck!

  113. #114 by Jong on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:06 am

    Finally, they are pointing fingers at each other ! The bunch of thieves and PakLah has just admitted how greedy and corrupted he, umno and bn component parties are.

    What I fail to understand is, why is SAPP ‘given’ the task to move the “No-Confidence” vote?

    Wasn’t Umno supposed to move it against their president and deputy president? What happened to all those jantans and brave men of Umno?

  114. #115 by Jong on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:08 am

    I don’t believe Yong Teck Lee and SAPP acted on their own. Could it be Najib? Just a thought.

  115. #116 by NG on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:24 am


  116. #117 by oknyua on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:25 am

    Godfather, how is Kassim Amat going to answer you when this article before his eyes appeared in Malaysia Today?

    [[[“(Datuk)Shahrin has just secured a government approval for some 1,200 open approved permits (AP) for hybrid cars which will make him one very hot player in the auto industry. Datuk Shahrin Zahari, 28 year-old, is an Exco member of UMNO Putera. His datukship was conferred by Melaka Governor Tun Khalil Yaakob in 2006.”%5D%5D%5D

  117. #118 by Jameswong on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:28 am

    another AP saga, why saya Apa Pun tiada !!

  118. #119 by yhsiew on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:33 am

    Why people like YTL and DSAI like to leak out information in advance; can’t they keep silent and unleash the “power of the bomb” only when the time is ripe. Don’t they know that the enemy is trying to do everything possible to counter their “attack” if they leak out information early?

  119. #120 by Jameswong on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:45 am

    Inflation is set to soar “substantially” in June due to high fuel prices, but it will not hit double digits, said Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister Shahrir Abdul Samad.

    this guy is talking cock.

  120. #121 by passerby on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:52 am

    Kasim Amat,

    YTL may be a traitor to the umno but will be a hero to the country and history will definitely remember him if he can bring down not only AAB but also the corrupt umno gov. He is no fool and he knows that he is crossing the bridge of no return. He may be a small minion in the bn and I am sure he has done his homework. Can you be sure that he has not got some of his fellow MPs to join him if the umno has the guts to accept his no-confidence motion.

    Forget MCA and MIC. The people has already rejected them for being your running dogs. They are a liabilities to the bn and they will just be some extra mouths for umno to feed. Don’t try to convince the people here to support your corrupt umno and we feed up of the corruptions, waste and mismanagement.

  121. #122 by lakilompat on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:56 am

    “Why people like YTL and DSAI like to leak out information in advance; can’t they keep silent and unleash the “power of the bomb” only when the time is ripe. Don’t they know that the enemy is trying to do everything possible to counter their “attack” if they leak out information early?”

    That’s the difference between BN and PR, BN is 1 shot announce everything, everyone got shock. BN govt. is not prepared or well studied the implication of fuel and energy cost increase.

    PR are prepared to face any counter effort made by BN. Many ppl. on the street already hated BN not becos of fuel + energy cost increase it is becos the govt. has gone too far and beyond any layman doubts, how they’ve misapropriate the countries funds, and income distribution, and how PL dictatorship turn M’sian into a big mess and shame.

  122. #123 by Jong on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:03 pm

    ” ….it will test the loyalty of other member parties and I don’t think either MCA or MIC want to be labelled as traitor for leaving BN. Further. MCA and MIC have already vowed to support for BN and UMNO no matter what happens. ” – Kasim Amat

    – MCA and MIC have already been labelled by the very people they claim and insist to represent – Malaysian Chinese and Malaysian Indians, so what difference does it make? They are nothing now, support for them has been dwindling since GE-12 on 8 March 2008

    Who are they representing now? – Ong Ka Ting and Samy Velu?

  123. #124 by DAPPKR on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:11 pm

    A quote from Malaysiakini by Samy Vellu

    “We will not let the prime minister down because he was elected by the people,” he added.

    If he can say that the people elected the PM before and the SAME people wants him to leave now, why isn’t the PM obliging?

    From here we should laud them for being transparent :D, being idiotic that is.

    Sometimes politician cant think smart enough.

  124. #125 by DAPPKR on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:21 pm

    And yeah

    We need a new government not a new PM from BN

    They probably have stuff planned out between Najib by now

    Collapse BN and PR should take over.

    When it concerns PR, PAS shouldn’t be imposing unnecessary religious rules that could affect non-muslim’s lifestyle. Don’t wag your tails too much.

  125. #126 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:21 pm


    Kasim Amat has no answer to such blatant acts of theft, and he knows it. He may even be a recipient of APs for all we know.

    Does the public know that APs issued every year run into the hundreds of thousands, and that virtually all of them go to selected UMNOputras ? Does the public know that this form of taxation runs into billions of ringgit each year ? It is so shameful that words cannot describe this act of theft – try telling it to the man on the street that is trying so hard to make ends meet.

  126. #127 by rainbowseahorse on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:32 pm

    I would interpret all those BN, especially from UMNO, MPs who expressed “It’s their right to express their views”, ..”the party can accommodate dissenting voices and didn’t think there was a need to expel SAPP from the coalition party” and other soft views over SAPP announcement as being quite happy and relieved that someone has done or is doing what they would like to do without jeopardizing their political positions. But I do not believe that SAPP is doing it on their own accord. Someone or somebody is pulling the strings to make them sing and dance.

  127. #128 by rainbowseahorse on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:38 pm

    DAPPKR Says:
    A quote from Malaysiakini by Samy Vellu
    “We will not let the prime minister down because he was elected by the people”.

    That is not correct. The people DID NOT elect the PM as he was made PM for being head of UMNO.

  128. #129 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 12:50 pm

    Yong Teck Lee is the only leader of a political party who was not offered a seat to contest in the March GE. So he missed out.

    His counterparts in PBS, LDP, PBRS, UPKO etc are now all holding some Minister or half-Minister post.

    But Yong is UNEMPLOYED!!!!!

    Now you understand why he is frusco and wants to shoot the Sheriff!!!

  129. #130 by Jong on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 1:05 pm

    I agree with Rainbowseahorse. Samy Vellu is wrong -the Malaysian people DID NOT elect the PM.

    The brave men of Umno was supposed to have moved the motion ‘vote of no confidence’ against their president, but somehow, things have changed and the “task” is given to Yong Teck Lee and his SAPP, against the Prime Minister. Who is behind this?

    Why, have Umno’s brave men suddenly turned chickens? :D

  130. #131 by rainbowseahorse on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 1:14 pm


    Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz said the party can accommodate dissenting voices and didn’t think there was a need to expel SAPP from the coalition party, and added, “It’s their right to express their views”.

    Don’t you find that very strange coming from Nazri who is better known for cynical remarks??
    Looks like UMNO has many camps and all have vested interest in wanting Pak Lah to fall.

  131. #132 by Jong on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 1:22 pm

    Yeah Umno jantans are all in the cemetery!

  132. #133 by Kasim Amat on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 2:52 pm

    There is no doubt BN does not need SAPP anymore because a traitor will never turn into a new leaf. To expel or not to expel SAPP from BN is the decision of our PM. It is not up to us to speculate.

    Coming to the AP issues, although I know it is not related to this posting but since some of the ignorant citizen have touched on the issues and seems that they do not have much much knowledge about the issue, I will make some very short clarifications here. The AP was awarded to PREMIER Hybrid Cars Sdn Bhd, a company that has rights to import and distribute Hybrid car. The AP was approved by International Trade and Industry Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Mohd Yassin after careful consideration and assessments. The cost of Hybrid car is 25% more than the normal car. It is therefore still no assurance that these cars will generate profits for the company. Datuk Shahrin Zahari, a young and uprising businessman is however willing to take a gamble here mainly because he strongly believe that this is a good way to help transforming our living environment into a healthier’s and greener’s one for the benefit of all Malaysians. In order to do that, he needs to educate a lot of people to convert into this environmental friendly vehicles and it is not so easy. In fact 1,200 APs is never enough. Until all Malaysians realise the advantage of the hybrid cars, he can only live with these small number of APs for the moment. In addition, take note that the government did not just award the APs to any small company with no any track record. Datuk Shahrin is a shareholder and the executive chairman of Verti Global Berhad which is in the oil and gas dealing with the supply of diesel for long time. His business acumen has made him rise to the rank of top notch businessman in Malaysia and he is young and energitic. Being also a member in the committee of Putera UMNO, the government has done correctly in awarding the APs to him who has proven track records and yet who can be trusted. In his hands, we can be confident that the APs will not be misused. Some may realise that Datuk Shahrin is a good friend of our respected Mr Khairy Jamaluddin, please note that there is no connection between their relationship and the approval of APs. The approval of APs is contibuted to Datuk Shahrin’s own effort and capability.

    P/S: I can’t remember who has commented that Datuk Shahrin is 28 years old. He is in fact 32 years old. Please find out the fact properly. This is a very serious misleading fact!

  133. #134 by Kasim Amat on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 2:56 pm

    There are bound to be jealousy and unhappiness everytime AP is being announced. All I can say is these people are mere challenger of the NEP!

  134. #135 by rainbowseahorse on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:06 pm

    Kasim Amat, you are one super duper! and I was even beginning to think that you are…hehehe…none other than…dah dah…KJ! Yes, the one and only KJ out to get ideas from opposition blog.
    Shaybas bro!

  135. #136 by limkamput on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:12 pm

    Who is challenging NEP? Let me tell you this: APs could have been easily given to PNB for example, and let motor traders who need the APs tender for them. The money earned by PNB from APs can then be used to buy trust funds for poor Bumi. Now that to me is NEP. The present system of issuing APs is not NEP, it is cronyism and not only that, it is also making the Malaysian economy less competitive by the day. Motor traders depending on APs are “good for nothing” companies, don’t forget that. You don’t really promote genuine entrepreneurship among Bumi, only rent seekers. But if APs are tendered out, motor traders will learn to make genuine profit and not merely collecting “transfer payments”. I don’t know how much economics you studied, but I hope you understand what I am saying here.

  136. #137 by rainbowseahorse on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:14 pm

    limkamput says: “.. don’t know how much economics you studied..”

    psssss!..he studied at Oxford! You know, the one in England!

  137. #138 by cheng on soo on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:32 pm

    AP (in its present form) should hv been abolished long ago. It does not serve any useful purpose at all ! It only forced end user (of vehicle) to pay extra money unnecessarily ? and benefit who ??
    If govt insist to hv AP system, why cant they issue it to end user of Vehicle directly, like that the end user paid to govt directly.

  138. #139 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:34 pm

    Thieves will always be thieves. Like I said in another thread, stealing is a hard habit to break.

  139. #140 by limkamput on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:41 pm

    godfather, you should patent the term “stealing is a hard habit to break”.

  140. #141 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:43 pm

    I am in the process of writing a dangdut song with the title “Stealing is a Hard Habit to Break”. Ella will be performing for me.

  141. #142 by limkamput on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:48 pm

    good man, seriously do it, make it big, who knows

  142. #143 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:52 pm

    “Being also a member in the committee of Putera UMNO, the government has done correctly in awarding the APs to him who has proven track records and yet who can be trusted. In his hands, we can be confident that the APs will not be misused. Some may realise that Datuk Shahrin is a good friend of our respected Mr Khairy Jamaluddin, please note that there is no connection between their relationship and the approval of APs. The approval of APs is contibuted to Datuk Shahrin’s own effort and capability.”

    Analyse this “official” UMNO statement carefully. A 32 year old with only a history of oil and gas is given APs to import hybrid cars. He happens to be part of Putera UMNO, and a close friend of KJ’s – but these are coincidences, so we should not read too much into these.

    However, with all of Shahrin’s connections, he will ensure that all 1,200 hybrid cars will be sold. How ? Have the government buy 600 of the cars to be given to department heads. Have the government increase fuel prices even more. Have the government reduce road taxes for hybrid cars. Have KJ close down The Emperor’s New Clothes at Pavilion and change it into a hybrid car showroom. What are friends for ?

    But the 1,200 APs is not the end of the story. Each year, there are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of APs issued, and almost all these coincidentally go to UMNOputras who happen to have friends in high places.

  143. #144 by Same story, different day on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:54 pm

    From a Sabahan point of view, Yong is another big hantu had been squandering the state wealth under PBS, together with Pairin and Jeffrey. I’m very skeptical on his sincereness to work for the benefit of ordinary citizens even if he is willing to join the PR government. I’m very upset that Anwar has no other credible candidates in Sabah to stage this attempt to remove the federal government. Sadly, I believe Sabah no longer have any credible politicians left, and obviously demonstrated by Anwar picking Jeffrey as PKR VP and leading the state PKR. See how PKR did badly in Sabah during the GE? The thing is, Yong and Jeffrey reputations in the eyes of Sabahan is long down the drain. Yong was the as**ole who stage the coup de’teat to bring down the PBS government and open the door for BN to regain the state. If anyone of you who knows about the falling of Ming Dynasty to Qing, Yong can be compared with Ng Sam Kwai who opened up the fort door and let the Qing army into China. I’m not saying PBS was good government as they are equally bad, and in the optiones offered back in 1994, it appears like BN can bring change to the state. I guess history do repeat itself in different scenario. The moral of the story is same, if Yong can be bought over now, he can do the same thing to PR government if BN comes in and offer better deal. In this case, I agree with Badawi that Yong personal greed is hard to please. He has not done anything all this while within BN, and over his 2 years role as CM.

    Sad Sabahan.

  144. #145 by gundam on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 3:59 pm

    he graduated from oxfart

  145. #146 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:21 pm

    I will campaign in the kampungs to tell the rural folks how UMNO steals from the rakyat’s piggy bank, and how the cheques that they write keep getting bigger and bigger. I will tell them the usual modus operandi of UMNO and how the poor folks in the rural areas get conned time and time again. I will illustrate how the UMNOputras use the rakyat’s money to buy properties in Perth, London and Singapore. I will explain that the act of taking money from the rakyat’s piggy bank is a criminal act which, if left unchecked, will condemn Bolehland to a Zimbabwean way of life.

  146. #147 by Kasim Amat on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:26 pm

    Please do not insult Oxford University. This is too much and off tangent!

    In fact, the highly respected Mr Khairy Jamaluddin has been walking through the village roads of Rembau and spoken to the locals about the reason of the fuel hike. There are two diversely different visions of the future that are being offered by BN and the opposition. He has explained that BN’s vision for the future is far-sighted, comprehensive and completely achievable. There is nothing in the BN manifesto that is an empty promise, neither is there anything that cannot be implemented. It is, above all, a responsible vision for the future which will not leave any mounting debts for our children to bear. It is fiscally prudent and sustainable without endangering the longterm economic survival of our nation. The vision presented by the opposition, on the other hand, is something that appeals to our base instincts. It is classic populist politics.

    Who can’t agree with lower petrol prices, higher salaries and a whole host of other freebies? The opposition has been exploiting the public’s fear of rising prices and an uncertain global economic outlook. The PR has taken this insecurity and turned their policy platform into an intellectually disingenuous bag of goodies that may be music to our ears but an unmitigated disaster for the future. Their principal objective is to inflict as much damage as possible to the BN – hence a populist strategy so as to materialise their dream of toppling the government come 16 Sept.

    Anwar had promised that the price of fuel would be reduced if his party came into power. It was said that Anwar is capable of fulfilling this particular promise because during the eight years he was minister of finance, he managed to keep the price of petrol around RM1.10 per litre. The problem with Anwar is he doesn’t quite tell you everything. He only tells you the bits that you want to hear.Well, here’s the other half of the story. When he was finance minister, the global price of crude oil was between US$12 and US$22 per barrel – low prices which seem like they’re from another lifetime. Today, crude oil has breached US$140 per barrel and yet the price of petrol in Malaysia is only RM1.92 per litre – the second lowest in the region. In other words, the increase in the global price of crude oil since Anwar was sacked to today has been 500 per cent. The increase in the price of petrol in Malaysia during the same period has only been 75 per cent.

    When Anwar was minister, of course it was easy to provide low petrol prices, simply because the global price of oil was extremely low. For Anwar to claim that this was due to his personal ability rather than the international market for oil, which is far beyond his control, is to blatantly present an incomplete and inaccurate account of the historical facts. But then again, who cares about the truth when your objective is to mislead people? Why should a charlatan care about the truth when he is taking credit for something that wasn’t his doing? The opposition parties say that they can pay for lower petrol prices by taking Petronas’ profits and turning it into further petrol subsidies. They forget to tell you that Petronas already channels almost two-thirds of its gross profits back to the government in the form of taxes, dividends and royalties. These monies go straight into development programmes. If the opposition had their way, the remaining third of Petronas’ profit would also be taken to pay for their promises.

    But consider this: our oil reserves will run out in 10 years and by 2010, we ‘ll be a net importer of oil. So whatever profit Petronas retains, they use as operating capital to drill for oil in Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia.If they don’t do this,we will have no energy resources in the future to leave our children, simply because the opposition convinced us to take the easy way out today instead of being prudent for the future.

    The bottom line effect is the government’s budget deficit ballooning from a manageable 3.2 per cent of GDP currently to more than 15 per cent of GDP. It will send us into the arms of international creditors and saddle our children with debts and contingent liabilities that they will have to pay for.

    Open your eyes wide and big and see who has a better vision here!

    p/S: My original intention was to clarify some misunderstandings but I have unintentionally converted this into my blog. So sorry Mr Lim!

  147. #148 by rainbowseahorse on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:27 pm

    Godfather, only 600 hybrid cars for govenment departments? You must be joking! How many government departments are there in Malaysia? Then times that with 13 + 3 FT states.
    What you say we take the AP “risks” ourselves? And, as a matter of course, we make saudara Kasim as our CEO, provided he lobby the APs for us.

  148. #149 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:34 pm

    Kasim to lobby for APs ? You mean we have to share with KJ ?

    I think we should get Kasim to help us with getting the APs for backpack thrusters – you know, the type that James Bond used to hop from one place to another ? PJ to KL will take only 5 minutes and we can spin off benefits too like air marshals, gas refills, etc.

    How about it Kasim ? Don’t forget that we proposed this idea first. Don’t let KJ hijack this idea, OK ?

  149. #150 by lopez on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:42 pm

    One thing not forgottern they is no favour involved here, you dont owe anybody a favour or face ,
    you people in sabah and sarawak, so strong yet so weak in steering your duture and for 50 years you are still the same , watching and bragging you don’t have this and dat.

    You make a few calls , thousands of MNC would be pleased to give a hand, who says business not involved profit.

    You need good sons of the earth , no where to be found except in S&S.
    But now, it appears you fells owe some favours to ppl on the peninsula, what has gone wrong who made what promise that get you fellas in this shape, trusting the bee’s end? you already got POKE deep deep and still want some more….
    strannge ppl in S&S, some of you r in peninsula, had seen cause and effects of hidden agendas.

  150. #151 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:43 pm

    OK, OK, Kasim, we can allow KJ to propose a patented umbrella to be retrofitted to the gas thrusters in the event of rain. We can give him exclusive.

  151. #152 by gundam on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:48 pm

    im insulting curry, not oxford.

    then how come u r insulting our intelligence here?

  152. #153 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:52 pm

    what curry ? Monkey curry or chicken curry ?

  153. #154 by cheng on soo on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 4:57 pm

    Saudara Kasim, agreed gomen should cut down deficit, but is increasing fuel price by more than 40 % the only way ??
    Gomen want us to pay market price for fuel, then, why we cannot pay market price for imported cars, WTF, need this AP thing for?? besides so many tol, excise duties , taxes etc??

  154. #155 by gundam on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 5:03 pm

    curry kerbau

  155. #156 by i_love_malaysia on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 5:37 pm

    Kassim Amat,
    Govt should disclose all the incomes and expenditures to the finest details for all Malaysian to see if there’s nothing to hide !!! In today’s world, transparent is the key !!! Once I have all these information, I will side with the govt if there’s really no money left, but it is the BN govt own doing that resulted in all these problems for Malaysia in the first place!!! Time to change BN govt and let others who are more competent to handle the resources and money of our beloved country!!! HABIS CERITA !!!

  156. #157 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 5:51 pm

    Kasim Amat:

    When rumours started flying about a Sabah party trying to defect, what did your boss the Sleepy Head do ? He sent threw UMNO “heavyweights” to Sabah to find out who, why and how much. The three heavyweights were: (1) a person implicated in the “Korek, korek, korek” judicial scandal (2) a person who lost RM 12 billion of the nation’s reserves speculating on foreign exchange and (3) the nation’s richest unemployed.

    They found out who, but they could not agree on how much. They didn’t know how to answer the “why”, so perhaps you can answer point by point the 14 issues raised by SAPP. Boleh ? Or you need time to consult your UMNO masters ?

  157. #158 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 5:52 pm

    sorry, typo line 3: should be “…three UMNO heavyweights…”

  158. #159 by lopez on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 6:03 pm

    OX FOOT, at my father’s expense and my future

    that 5% is oxcart size in all of the others who did not go oxfoot, but have to allow nkp and the comes back and tells us what to do.

    Is your mother a female ,,,btw whay you married the zzzzzhead daughter, he gave you the nod accidentally or what

    Stop clowning around at other peoples backside expense.

  159. #160 by lchk on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 6:57 pm

    Kasim amat@ killer @ realword is a big joke – first he yaks about having tiered pricing for malays and non-malays and now he sings praises about the AP system and KJ.

    Killer got found out by his LIES regarding Teresa Kok and ran away with his tail behind his legs. Amongst many lies such as equating a Malaysian standard of living with Singapore’s.

    Now he resurfaces as Kasim Amat the UMNO mouthpiece and punchbag of this blog.

  160. #161 by Kasim Amat on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:45 pm

    Well, Ichk, I can only says this, don’t always think you are right. I do not know who is killer or realword. Having fuel prices in Bumi and Non-Bumi and the recent award of AP are all in line with the backbone of Malaysia’s founding policies, NEP. To break down the oil prices in different tiers, this will help the poor to lessen their burden, majority of whom is Malay. Awarding AP to Bumi is to help Bumi company closing up the gap with their Non-Bumi competitors so to ensure a more balanced and fair market environment.

  161. #162 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:46 pm


    Where is my AP for this gas-fired backpack thrusters ?

  162. #163 by Godfather on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 7:48 pm

    Like I said earlier, you can be my front, my CEO. I just do all the work like every Ali-Baba business for the past 30 years. Hidup NEP !

  163. #164 by artemus22 on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 8:36 pm

    “One small step for Sabah; one giant leap for the whole Malaysia”.

  164. #165 by shortie kiasu on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 10:09 pm

    The issues of dissatisfaction brought up by Yong is real in Sabah, illegal immigrant, poor development, crimes, poverty ….is relevant and real. Other Sabah leaders from other party had also brought up the same issues to PM but these issues affecting the East Malaysia were brought up time and again by even their UMNO leaders in the States in East Malaysia.

    Another 50 years may be needed to address those issues.

  165. #166 by BlackEye on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 10:22 pm

    This is not about an unpopular politician or a corrupt one or a fringe party within the coalition. This is not about who should have taken the initiative or if there is no ulterior motive behind it or why the party does not instead cross over to the opposition. Even if the motion fails to reach the floor, it is of great symbolic significance.

  166. #167 by Jameswong on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 10:50 pm

    NEP …!

    giving AP to the people around the Orang Atas will not help the majority poor malay, you can call yourself Melayu Baru or whatever but in other eyes, it is a useless person or no better than begger.

    getting the reward without sweat, no wonder Malaysia cannot progress.

    PR will get rid of this and save billions of RInggit to bring down the petrol price.

    Hidup PR !

  167. #168 by lchk on Thursday, 19 June 2008 - 11:16 pm

    Kasim amat,

    No need to yak so much about who you are or are not – we all know you are an UMNO stooge and that’s all that matters.

    Teresa Kok really kicked your butt LOL!

  168. #169 by blablowbla on Friday, 20 June 2008 - 8:34 am

    we are wasting our time on tis kasim fello,just ignore tis idiot nincompoop,whatever he says is rubbish!

  169. #170 by undergrad2 on Saturday, 21 June 2008 - 7:42 am

    “Do not blame it on non-malays. Non-malays do not have the power to make this happen.” nimcompoop

    Yes, only a nincompoop, a government retiree with a cheap title from the government for long service, running a blog which nobody visits and talking to himself under different handles would do this.

  170. #171 by limkamput on Saturday, 21 June 2008 - 9:48 am

    Undergrad2, as far as i know you are the perverted a** who constantly go after nincompoop for no good reason. When did nincompoop make that statement you quoted above?

    You even tried to put him in trouble by posting all the racist comments in his blog, am i right?

    Where is Bernadette today? You forgot the password, didn’t you? You are the coward who use different handles to hide your split personality, not nincompoop.

  171. #172 by zeferino on Sunday, 22 June 2008 - 2:05 am

    While we all choose our sides and people like YTL have self interest in mind, ( Why had he not taken the PM’s offer to serve sabah , and not think it inducement ) we Malaysians have so many problems need solving, and the world economy is sick, we should gather around to solve this and then later do the politiking. General Election time is the right time.

  172. #173 by shamshul anuar on Monday, 23 June 2008 - 11:29 pm

    DEar Wesuffer,

    What did you say? That Selangor going to build a casino should UMNO still rule the state? Do tell me the source of your info. Not that I believe you anyway.

    As for Godfather, if UMNO steals from “rakyat” piggy bank, then UMNO would be history long time ago. THe truth is that it made some mistakes. BUt it does delivers. Look around you. Tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands received scholarships. Petronas is listed as among the biggest organisation in the world.

    At least UMNo has the guts to reject anothe slavery in disguise help from IMF. Habislah kalau Anwar has his way.

    At least Abdullah is clean. Hew never uses money to win a post. I am not so sure about Anwar . Everybody knows how he won the coveted Deputy President of UMNO post in 1993.

    At least our PM does not have the habit of putting his son as the Menteri Besar of Negeri Sembilan. BUt in Penang, of course only Eng Guan is capable to hold the post when DAP won 19 state seats. The Penang DAP chairman was left out.
    Talk about crony.

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