Support for Azizah as Parliamentary Opposition Leader

In the March 8 general election, the three Opposition parties of PKR, DAP and PAS denied the Barisan Nasional its hitherto unbroken two-thirds parliamentary majority winning a total of 82 parliamentary seats – PKR 31, DAP 28 and PAS 23.

I have been asked by reporters as to who would be the next Parliamentary Opposition Leader.

The subject has still to be discussed by the three Opposition parties as the most pressing concerns have been the formation of new coalition state governments particularly in Penang, Perak and Selangor for the DAP.

Although the three Opposition parties have yet to meet on the matter of the new Parliamentary Opposition Leader, Parti Keadilan Rakyat President Datin Seri Dr. Wan Azizah Wan Ismail is the ideal candidate as the new Parliamentary Opposition Leader with PKR having the most parliamentary seats of the three Opposition parties in Parliament.

I support Azizah as the Parliamentary Opposition Leader for the 12th Parliament, and Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim as the Parliamentary Opposition Leader when he is re-elected to Parliament after the expiry of his civil disenfranchisement barring him from standing for elective office in mid-April.

  1. #1 by devilmaster on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 4:38 pm

    sorry i dont support both of them. It is simple. They are not as outspoken as uncle kit.

  2. #2 by bentoh on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 4:48 pm

    Dear YB LKS,

    It’s a loss for Malaysian as you are not in the run for Parliamentary Opposition Leader pose… :)

    But I understand you and your party’s stand to support Kak Wan as Parliamentary Opposition Leader… :)

    To me, you are truly a invaluable leader and Parliamentary Opposition Leader for this nation… :D

    However, I wish you can take some time… to dig deep into the problems sprouting from DAP, make changes, make real changes, and as a result giving us a credible and mature DAP… :)

    Best Wishes!

  3. #3 by devilmaster on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 4:48 pm

    PKR having the most parliamentary seats was bcos they contested the most parliamentary seats. In term of performance and % of winning, DAP deserve the Parliamentary Opposition post.

  4. #4 by merdeka on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 4:58 pm

    YB Lim,

    Wise choice to have Azizah as parliamentary opposition leader as you have more important task in DAP. Your important role as advisor in DAP is required from time to time since DAP has no experience in governing a state !!!!!!!!!!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. #5 by mycroft on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 4:58 pm

    This is a noble gesture by Sdr. Lim Kit Siang. However, I do not need to be as noble as him. Wan Azizah as Parliamentary Opposition Leader will be a complete travesty. The Opposition needs someone with the ability of Kit Siang to lead it. Everyone knows Azizah – as nice a woman as she might be – is an ersatz for her husband. She has done nothing to show that she deserves to be one, save for keeping the seat warm.

  6. #6 by Jimm on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 5:01 pm

    Let us all calmed down and see the whole prospective according to what have been transpired through rakyat votes.
    BR will stand as ONE.
    They will all speak for us in the Parliament.
    All 82 of these BR MPs will make sure that BN cronies will not waste our monies again.
    50 years is a long wait.
    We have decided and voted them as our voices.
    Please do not have any doubts on what we have planned for.
    They are all human like us and we must give them their rightful support and confidence to make our rakyat voices stood up in Parliament.
    BR BOLEH, Rakyat BOLEH

  7. #7 by billgates on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 5:05 pm

    Even though I don’t agree with your suggestion but I think democracy should prevail. We should walk the talk now and your decision is laudable. Most important now is move towards the formation of a Bangsa Malaysia.

  8. #8 by bentoh on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 5:06 pm

    Well…. the House meeting will be in May… and if Anwar run for by-election as soon as possible… Anwar will get to catch up the new house and take the possition of Parliamentary Opposition Leader… :D

  9. #9 by gofortruth on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 5:28 pm

    Uncle Lim
    Good thinking.
    This is the way to it should go. As for you, it may just be a blessing in disguise now that you will have some breathing space (really salute your stamina) to reconsolidate DAP & beef up the size ( & most importantly the quality of your leaders) from the your current 100000(?) members.

  10. #10 by on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 5:43 pm

    Well, I fully support YB LKS’s decision. I think it’s a wise one, one that fully reflects the bigger picture as to where things stand at the moment.

    I think it’s important that we remember that YB LKS is still a part of the bigger team in Parliament and he remains the leader of DAP. I am sure his voice will still be heard loud and clear in Parliament, if not here!

    I feel mycroft is unnecessarily driving a wedge between PKR and DAP, which is completely unnecessary. Wan Azizah plays a very important role in Barisan Rakyat because if she did not stand, she simply wouldn’t have had commanded the huge majority that she had, notwithstanding PKR’s strategy to involve Anwar in the future to bypass past laws designed to keep Anwar away from politics through less than honest means.

    I also disagree with devilmaster, simply because “outspoken” should not be the sole criteria for deciding who should be leader of the Opposition. There are many more factors to consider and one needs to balance many factors.

    Overall, I totally agree with YB LKS’s wise decision to let Wan Azizah to be Parliamentary Opposition Leader.

  11. #11 by tswern on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 5:45 pm

    Uncle Kit,

    Being an opposition leader is NOT an enviable task.

    Kak Wan is a very very polite, goodie two shoes person. She has leadership skills, no doubt. However, IMHO, she *might* be a bit too soft-spoken to be opposition leader. Just my opinion.

    The reality is, different situations require different leadership styles. In the current context, we need someone with FIRE (sharp wit, intellect, dilligence, tenacious) to lead the opposition in Parliament.

    I’m not putting this comment here as a means to “bodek”. You might be doing this in the spirit of being “fair and square”, but sometimes, it might not be in the best option for the opposition cause for now.


  12. #12 by kkc on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 5:48 pm

    This show BR as one. Great job!!!

  13. #13 by Libra2 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 5:51 pm

    The Opposition Leader’s post should go to PKR as the party holds the most MPs. However, PKR can still offer the post to kit just as DAP gave the Perak MB’s post to PAS which has the least member in the State Assembly.
    When Anwar walks into the parliament in May or thereabout, the post can be returned to Anwar.
    But be warned the Opposition Leader could well go to Ahmad Abdullah Badawi!!!
    Politics is the art of the impossible.

  14. #14 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:00 pm

    Maybe as a gesture you should suggest Datin Seri Dr. Wan Azizah Wan Ismail and if she reciprocates graciously that it ought to be Lim Kit Siang, then you should take it as you have earned the stripes from decades of rough politics in Malaysian Parliament.

    I don’t buy the argument that in Malaysian politics Wan Azizah is entitled to be Opposition head just because of “PKR having the most parliamentary seats of the three Opposition parties in Parliament”.

    The DAP has most state seats in Perak but did that earn it the top post of Menteri Besar in Perak?

    More than ever in this new dawn of Malaysian political history, the Opposition leader has to have record of leadership qualities in public debate demonstrated – which you have.

    We are talking of merits here, or the contribution to the nation based on all races being represented in Parliament, which is the mandate given to DAP by its supporters.

    It should be based on race, religion or numbers of parliamentary or state seats.

    How PKR stands in relation to PAS’s assertiveness and gains has not yet been sorted out : I don’t see PKR or PAS supporting Hindraf for example so how are you going to represent plural Malaysia, to wit, Malaysian Indians, for example, if you consign away the big opposition microphone in Parliament?

  15. #15 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:02 pm

    Sorry I meant “Maybe as a gesture you might have suggested Datin Seri Dr. Wan Azizah Wan Ismail” – and not “Maybe as a gesture you should suggest Datin Seri Dr. Wan Azizah Wan Ismail”.

  16. #16 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:03 pm

    Oops it should be “…..It should NOT be based on race, religion or numbers of parliamentary or state seats….”

  17. #17 by omo on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:04 pm

    Uncle Lim,

    You have done a lot – take a rest and enjoy some fruits of your labour. Also you can build up the Party – time to have more grassroots to be identified with DAP. In the past, people shy away from activities carried out by DAP. Also as member of international Socialist Democrat, you can invite foreign countries to invest in Penang and Perak. Give second echelon DAP MPs to debate in the Parliament and let them undergo baptism of fire. See how LKY train his second team of leaders.

  18. #18 by malaysiaalwaysboleh on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:04 pm

    Oh well, at least you are gracious enough to endorse someone else.
    Keep it up.

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  19. #19 by Bobster on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:04 pm

    Think it is a wise move, pave way for DSAI’s return. Though many people including yours truly still having some reservation to DSAI based on his past conduct, but looking at another angle, DSAI no doubt still considered a so-called ‘international man’ with plenty of overseas connection. Believe from his fallout to his return to the current status, DSAI has suffered enough to understand the plight of the people in general. At least, as an ‘international man’ many eyes are watching, believe he will not let his future ideology and action ruining his international reputation. Not many people can challenge UMMO outdated ideology except DSAI. Besides, as the country heading towards globalization, we need leaders who are well verse with global challenges. Leaders who are still refusing to change and insist of staying under the coconut shell (referring to BN cronies) will cause the country to fall further behind when the wind of change sweep through the world.

  20. #20 by boh-liao on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:05 pm

    It’s expected that PKR provides the next Parliamentary Opposition Leader as PKR won the highest number of parliamentary seats among DAP, PKR, and PAS.

    It’s time for DAP to consolidate itself, besides performing well in Penang, Perak, Selangor, and FT (KL).

    In the next 4 to 5 years, many young people, who are IT savvy, will be eligible to be voters. Encourage them to register as voters. Of course, encourage them to be DAP members.

    Together with other political parties, clean up the Election Commission.

    Improve DAP bases in Sarawak and Sabah.

    Set up branches in rural areas. Equip each branch with at least a personal computer with access to the Internet. Allow people in rural areas to use the PCs. Educate them in the use of the Internet to access news, blogs, Youtube, etc.

    Help economically disadvantaged Malaysians, regardless of race, to fish. Give them the skills and fishing rods, not fish.

    DAP has to ensure that Malaysians embrace it as a multiracial political party that looks after the benefits of all Malaysians.

    Eventually DAP and PKR have to examine and consider their dual existences.

  21. #21 by gofortruth on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:16 pm

    “I believe the new Barisan Nasional (BN) cabinet will also take concrete actions to address the grievances of the people which have resulted in the loss of many seats by BN in the recent general election,” he said (Koh Tsu Koon).”

    Uncle Lim
    Tell them if they really mean it, then set the Hindraf 5 free IMMEDIATEDLY from that dreaded ISA camp & give them a free trial if the BN gomen has a case against them.

    Everyone sees this as nothing but a diabolical case of big bully against the weak.Shame on them!

  22. #22 by BoycottLocalPapers on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:19 pm

    Dear Uncle Lim,

    Can you make a deal with Anwar regarding Sabah and Sarawak?

    PKR didn’t do well in these two states. If only both of you could agree on how to tackle these two states in the last General Election, I think you are probably a Cabinet Minister now if not the Deputy Prime Minister.

    Ask Anwar to give way to DAP since other than Penang these are the only states in Malaysia where a Non-Malay and Non-Muslim could be the Chief Minister.

    I think it would be a fair deal.

    Do your best!!!

  23. #23 by Damocles on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:21 pm

    Uncle Lim,
    I think that Azizah is too soft to be the Oppositon Leader.
    As it is, you are the most capable as your years in the post showed.
    We need someone who can constantly nail the BN in Parliament for their misdeeds.
    I also think that is also one of the factors that the DAP and consequently the BR won so many seats.
    So, reality should take precedent over everything else because we are talking about the future of our country.
    We are also talking about booting out the BN in the next GE. And it is a doable task.

  24. #24 by Bobster on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:25 pm

    Yes Uncle Lim, you have scarified so much in the last 40+ yrs. Time to take some breathing space, be an advisor may be, concentrate on states affairs, making Penang and Perak better off compare to the past, cutting red tapes in the town councils and administration, in a way encourage foreign investors to Penang/Perak. Think DAP and coalition will do well if have to enough ears to evaluate idea contributed by the general public.

  25. #25 by drmaharajahrk on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:32 pm

    Anwar Ibrahim as parliamentary opposition leader ? No way.

    He’s Prime Minister material

    Get him to be Prime Minister ASAP

  26. #26 by k1980 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:36 pm

    The group appealed to Malaysia’s constitutional monarch, King Mizan Zainal Abidin, to appoint a Royal Commission on Electoral Reform to overhaul the electoral process and to investigate allegations of fraud and misconduct in the March elections.

    Bersih cited gerrymandering and said the electoral roll contained irregularities, such as names of people who were dead, falsely registered to vote or registered multiple times in different areas.

  27. #27 by BoycottLocalPapers on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:36 pm

    Can a non-Malay and non-Muslim be a Deputy Prime Minister in Malaysia?

  28. #28 by mycroft on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:40 pm

    Unneccesarily driving a wedge? On what basis – besides the fact that her party won the most seats (some with candidates who were just there for the ride) out of the Opposition? Come off it, the Opposition Leader’s post isn’t one for seat warmers, which is what Wan Azizah is. Even Hadi Awang would make a better Opposition Leader than her.

  29. #29 by buaya on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:41 pm

    how about Tian Chua?! nobody mention abt him???

  30. #30 by tswern on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:46 pm

    IMHO, Tian Chua lacks seniority and experience.

    IMHO, think it is difficult to command respect from the rest of the opposition team.

  31. #31 by BoycottLocalPapers on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:57 pm

    I read at PAS website that Anwar Ibrahim is going to be PM soon because there would be a crossover from BN Parliamentarians to Barisan Rakyat.

    In that case, we don’t need to worry about who is going to be Opposition Leader. We should worry about who is going to be Deputy Prime Minister. Will it be Haji Hadi or Lim Kit Siang?

    Then, probably Najib Tun Razak or Khairy Cameluddin would be Opposition Leader. ROFL

  32. #32 by buaya on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:00 pm

    IMHO, I think uncle kit shudnt be opposition leader, see the mistake he committed lately.

    high possibility he may creates backfire again in BR

  33. #33 by Sooth on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:06 pm

    Hmm… I think she’s too soft to be the opposition leader but I guess it’s only a nominal post. The real leaders will the LKS, KS, and the PAS guys. Hopefully we’ll see good performances from the younger MPs as well. We need the next echelon to step up.

  34. #34 by pwcheng on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:06 pm

    I thought the 3 parties expounded meritocracy. Let the best take on the role and forget about numbers and race. You people must walk the talk and not wobble. Best solution is to put it into voting. Put up 5 names , with a seconder and let the best take the role. Everybody will be happy.

  35. #35 by js on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:19 pm

    I suggest LKS should take a rest. We prefer him to be the observer for LGE and to make sure Penang states is running in good manner.

  36. #36 by fullfilth on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:24 pm

    I think Azmin (Gombak) will be on that position.

  37. #37 by jetaime.f on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:24 pm

    A good leader will not be a person who have strong leadership skills only but will also be someone who is:

    1) True to himself and to the people of Malaysia,
    2) Who wants, and have continuous strong desire to put the People of Malaysia First because for the love of the Malaysian people and the country
    3) With strong critical thinking
    4) Well-experienced

    The candidate should ask himself / herself whether

    One is true to oneself and be honest to want to Put My People First and would accept to continue to serve the country WITHOUT the leadership role or the title because I truly want to and desire to see the country grow and progress, for the current and future generations for many years to come.

    I can’t say this for anyone but I believe as a leader, Tunku Abdul Rahman was true to himself and to the people.

  38. #38 by Joshua Tan Kok Hauw on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:26 pm

    YB Lim, if you are recommended to be the Opposition leader,please accept it.

    Not a current MP is as erudite as you do. You are one of the most hard-working MP in the parliament.

    I don’t think Wan Azizah is a good orator and she is not as outspoken as you do.

    I beseech you to be Opposition leader in the parliament.

  39. #39 by pjboy on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:41 pm

    Dear YB: just a thought, better check all the official residences of all BR-states make sure got no hidden video cameras or audio microphones! Must learn from other’s mistakes :-)!!!

  40. #40 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:41 pm

    Soon, the opposition will take over the BN government, Uncle Kit will be appointed as deputy prime minister, promotion ok.

  41. #41 by KelvinSKGoh on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:44 pm

    I think having DSAI as Opposition leader in parliment is a good choice as it is UMNO opposition is challenging here. To win against UMNO, opposition have to convince the Malays to stop supporting them and support opposition.

    If Uncle Lim b the opposition leader, it is not easy to criticize racial policies as the UMNO could easily potray Uncle Lim as racist. While if DSAI oppose against racial policies, UMNO cannot potray him as racist, and he can also convince more Malays to stop supporting UMNO.

  42. #42 by pjboy on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:53 pm

    Dear YB

    That’s the spirit of unity. What an example you have set for future leaders (unlike those on the “other side”). You may be too modest to admit but you are at the highest peak of your political career as opposition leader. Though you may not wish to continue to be political opposition leader but you will still be one of the opposition leaders, greatly respected. It’s not easy after so many years. But even politicians are human. Put it this way, no more iron-lady to spar with in parliament anymore :-)).

  43. #43 by pjboy on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:57 pm

    Dear YB: am sure you have bigger & more important agendas. Now that there are many younger & capable MPs behind the BR fence, I believe your energy will still be required as part of the team to build up the BR-wall-of-5-sates.

  44. #44 by Wisdom above on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 7:58 pm

    To all BR YBs,

    Dear YB Menteri Besar ,Kedah ,Perak, Selangor.

    Dear YB Chief Minister,Penang.

    Have you appointed your IT official press secretaries yet ?

    I believed all Penang, Kedah, Perak, Selangor, Kelantan rakyat- rakyat want to communicate with all your BR State governments.

    What are your listed IT Links for the followings :-

    1) Penang, Kedah, Perak, Selangor, Kelantan Government Websites to receive feedbacks , queries & complaints ?

    2) CM ,CM1, CM2 & MB , Deputy MB1, Deputy MB2 Blogs ?

    3) all your personal Blogs ?

    4) all excos Blogs for all 5 BR States ?

    5) all state Assemblypersons & MPs Blogs?

    5) all 5 BR States DAP,PKR,PAS Blogs ?

    6) so far working & updated websites are :

    Cannot trust Bernama, Star, Utusan ,TST, TVs , as all their news are ‘ bluffology’ ?

    Once we are able to verify all the news & commentaries online from PKR,DAP,PAS ,no more confusion, OK.

    Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.

  45. #45 by Saint on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 8:01 pm

    Saudara Lim, we are going to miss you but, we will see you in parliament. What you have decided is an excellent move, and it can be view in many angles.

    Spend your time in Sabah and Sarawak. They need you help as much as we needed yours. Concentrate on the two states from this 2008. DAP must capture both the states in the next election.

    May this fresh “battle” give you a new sprit and determination.

    God bless.

  46. #46 by patriotic1994 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 8:06 pm

    I suppose Kit’s choice.

    We need good and strong Malay speaker in the house. I am not saying Kit is not good. Just that Kit is time to retire and let the younger and stronger generation to do the job. I also think that BN dogs are tired with Kit. I bet they will shut their ears when Kit speak and hope he will finish talking soon. We can’t accept that. So it is a good choice for Azizah or DSAI.

    In Leadership 101, we need to identify the talent and use them in right place. No?

  47. #47 by ipohites on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 8:38 pm

    Uncle Lim, I would prefer to have you as an opposition leader. Although you are aging, but your voice still strong and loud.

  48. #48 by digard on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 8:46 pm

    Yes, make Azizah opposition leader. It won’t be for long; and the gesture is noble.
    More relevant: appoint a shadow cabinet. Offer the post as home minister to Zaid Ibrahim. At least from my perspective. It was the one and only time I talked to a high-ranking UMNO person, where, when leaving, I felt honoured for the opportunity to have met the person.

  49. #49 by PSM on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 8:48 pm

    Bro Kit,

    I’m sure you must have thought about this a long time ago already. Everyone seems to think Wan Azizah as soft. However, we don’t know for sure. She has stood by her husband through thick & thin & has survived well. If & when DSAI gets back into Parliment, he would probably be the right choice as the Opposition Leader.
    I believe we have to respect your decision as you have led the Opposition for a long time & you know what’s best!
    God keep you well always!

  50. #50 by tsuchong on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 8:53 pm

    Uncle Kit,

    Have to admit that was worried if you’re gonna be retained as the opposition leader when PKR won more seats. And was even more worried on how you will react to this.

    But having read this post, my respect for you have grown even more.

    Great job as a Opp leader in the last term and thanks alot. But keep kicking butts and give them a hard time in parliament ya? Now you have reinforcements to back you up! Lots of them!

  51. #51 by mycroft on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 8:53 pm

    jetaime.f, with due respect to Bapa Malaysia, I think too many of us look at him through rose tinted glasses and more than a sense that he is a sacred cow. He was not averse to the politics of patronage and parochialism that has continued to blight Malaysia since Merdeka. I think you just need to look at the famous case of Abdul Rahman Talib when the late D.R. Seenivasagam won a libel case against the then Minister of Education, only for the Tunku to appoint the disgraced minister as an ambassador. You only have to look at how he tolerated ultras like Albar. Or how he stuck with the old MCA towkays like Tan Siew Sin. If he wasn’t the first Prime Minister, I’m afraid he’d have about the same report card as Badawi.

  52. #52 by lbl on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:08 pm

    Dear YB Lim,
    Since the choice of MB in the States was made accordingly, I think the same rationale should be made on the choice of Opposition Leader.
    Once our representatives have settled down, it would be good if they could brief us on what is going on in the government. Some representatives have not bothered to up date their blogs.
    It is from of the news in their blogs that I voted for the BR.

  53. #53 by penang308 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:21 pm

    I totally agreed with KS decision to let Azizah be the opposition leader.

    All the best!

  54. #54 by alancheah on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:44 pm

    whoever (from PKR, PAS or DAP) becomes the Parliamentary Opposition Leader, we got to support. Please don’t start any infighting anymore, but got to show more unity and get BN out from the federal govt. in the next election!

  55. #55 by gotcha1965 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:54 pm

    Dear YB

    You are the most experienced and proven leader in the opposition. Rightfully, the post should be offered to you by the coalition. No doubt DAP won 3 seats less compared with PKR but the wiser choice is undoubtedly you.

    But considering DSAI will be coming on board soon, it is a good gesture on your part to vacate and facilitate DSAI to lead the opposition when the time is ripe.

    It is a blessing in disguise, you can spend more time to support LGE and strategise for the next GE.

    With that you have our support.

  56. #56 by kopio2 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:03 pm

    I think who to be the opposition leader is not so important right now. The most important is to build another replacement cabinet to replace BN in the next 4 or 5 years. And I think it is a good time for opposition to monitor the BN ministers in the parliment.
    The next important thing I think it will be how to gain support malay vote from the new state government such as Salangor, Penang and Perak. It will demo for the others state malay that how DAP treat the malay.
    The last thing is pretty important is the Sabah and Sarawak Parliment seats. I think if DAP want to won more partliment seat in these two nonmuslim states, efforts need to start from now. There are about 60 seats down there. Everyone is looking at DAP performance for this 4-5 years. Otherswise you will eventually represent solely from nonmuslim which will lost all the support of about 55%muslim it is very bad to play an important of ruling the country in next election.

  57. #57 by winterman05 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:15 pm

    Mr. Lim,

    The question is this: Who will be the most effective Opposition Leader in Parliament? For the first time in Malaysian political history, there will be an ALTERNATIVE Government waiting in the wings to take over the reins of power at the CENTRE! It is going to be a TWO-Party Parliamentary system; and it augurs well for the nation. It is like the British Parliamentary system for the first time in history. This 2008 General Election is a watershed; and it had ” washed ” away some BN characters.

    Now, I shall get on to the track concerning the Opposition Leader. You have been a vigorous, outspoken, daredevil in Parliament ; and had made scathing attacks against the BN; and had acquited yourself very well. You had showed up the weakness of BN by your prowess in debating skills; and could match any one on the other side! You could take on any one ! So, it would be a pity if you were to give way to PKR leader to take your place. However, I do understand the rationale in giving way to PKR.

    Firstly, PKR has 31 MPs against DAP’s 28. If we look at the arithmetic, PKR has the majority and hence should , logically speaking , take the first place. Of course, the majority in Perak State does not win for one simple reason: the Constitution stipulates that the MB should be a Malay Muslim. That puts paid to DAP holding the position. Of course there is another clause that says that the Ruler could, if he wishes, waive that requirement. But that was not to be. Now that the position of MB is settled, we shall put this tussle behind us and look forward, looking at the BIG picture— Parliament and beyond.

    Secondly, you had rightly mentioned that Datuk Anwar Ibrahim should be the alternative PM.Looking at the big picture again, I feel that is a wise move. Since Anwar could not be in Parliament until he is allowed to contest and win ina by-election, the position, for the time being , should go to Dr. Wan Azizah. She will hold the fort for the time being.

    Thirdly, you will be very busy advising the Chief Minister of Penang and also fellow State Assembly men and ladies in Perak and Selangor, your hands are full. They will require your guidance and useful tips. Penang is in DAP-PKR hands; and the Chief Minister and his colleagues should manage it very well and hence the Penangites will vote in DAP-PKR again and again! This is a rare opportunity which should not be squandered, for voters are very knowledgeable and sharp and know who is capable and who is not. So, Penang is a jewel that should be a model to all the other States; and , in this internet age, news spreads very fast. The beacon will shine throughout the land; and once people could see the LIGHT, they will vote DAP-PKR-Pas for at least the next FIFTY years! Just imagine the upliftment of ALL Malaysians for decades!!!

    The MEA ( Malaysian Economic Agenda) will bring prosperity, equality, happiness to ALL Malaysians. This is the DREAM come true for ALL people: no one will be marginalised. MALAYSIA can stand tall in the eyes of the world. Instead of Malaysians migrating to foreign lands, those Malaysiasn overseas will return, because they will be able to see a BRIGHT future for them, their children and their garndchildren.

    So, your plate will be full. There are so many POTENTIALITIES. You have stood the test of time, running over FORTY years of political struggle and some years in prison. You and your fellow members in DAP have travelled a long, arduous, painful journey; and have given your whole life. Now that Penang especially is your hands, the long march has been worthwhile. You can look back and say that yout tireless efforts in advancing the cause of JUSTICE, FAIRNESS and INTEGRITY have borne fruit.

    So, your magnanimous offer to PKR to lead the charge in Parliament is the right move, for the sack of DAP-PKR-Pas coalition.

    May God bless you and your comrades in the coming days, weeks , months and years. Malaysians should be ever grateful for the unstinting efforts in steering the course of DAP all these years— 40-odd years!

    Thank you.

    S.H. Huang

  58. #58 by alancheah on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:26 pm

    Indeed… now certain states, BN has become an opposition
    party, but they never know & learn how to be a good
    opposition party. They just know how twist the facts.
    Even good jobs/policies being implemented by new
    state govt, they will twist that to some other

    Do that more, BN, and you all will really KALAH a big
    time in the next election.

    You think rakyat will still believe in what you all are
    doing now? I don’t!

  59. #59 by jus legitimum on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:31 pm

    LKS should be the opposition leader again.Just recall the thunderous support and cheer given to him when he appeared at each and every ceramah before the election.Who else has his experience and diligence? After all he is still healthy and energetic.All BR MPs should unanimously elect him as opposition leader before the return of DSAI to the Parliament.

  60. #60 by chanjoe on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:38 pm

    As PKR is the party having the most seats then by convention their leader should automatically be the Opposition leader but then again being Opp Leader does not mean being more vocal…LKS can still be very vocal and being of age. its hightime to allow the younger MPs of DAP to show their powers. There are numerous new young MPs so we should see their performances before we pass any judgement.
    Then again, PKR too have many new, young and powerful MPs and I can safely bet that there will be jostling for the Oppo MPs to show their powess…lets give them a chaqnce to show and there is no need to fight over who should be the Oppo leader.
    A big BRAVO to the new kids in the block.

  61. #61 by lorkh on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:39 pm

    Dear YB Lim,

    As long as DAP is still an Opposition party in the federal level, I can’t imagine any other Opposition Leader other than YB Lim. Can you pls reconsider this decision?


  62. #62 by alphoti on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:48 pm

    In democracy, whoever can command the support of the majority should rule. Uncle Lim is a wise & fair man, his support for Wan Azizah should be respected. The important thing is, please do not fight for positions. BR should not be like BN.

    Please let us not forget, BR might be the next government!

  63. #63 by devilmaster on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:53 pm

    To those who supported Wan Azizah as Opposition Leader, can you please tell me what she has done for the past 2 terms(1999,2004). Some of you commenters are just jumping on the bandwagon just bcos PKR have the most parliamentary seats(mind you, PKR contested the most parliamentary seats too, with DAP & PAS giving way due to their stubborness).

    Find me a Youtube ceramah on what had Wan Azizah spoken on. Until today, i still dunno what she had been championing.

    Lim Kit Siang is still the best Oppososition Leader around due to his vast political knowledge & experience. I am afraid Wan Azizah will just sit down like that when being ordered by UMNO ultra Raja Ahmad Zainuddin during parliament sessions.

    We want a strong voice in Parliament

  64. #64 by devilmaster on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:55 pm


    ..with DAP & PAS giving way due to their(PKR) stubborness).

  65. #65 by gofortruth on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:07 pm

    Uncle Lim
    Please quickly get all your elected people to start a personal blog :-

    1) To keep in touch with the people of their constituencies. Its a good way for people to reach you than having you to go out to them (they may be busy & working etc etc) to find out their needs. (That doesn’t mean you don’t need to walk the streets any more to keep touch with the people & is always seen to be around to take charge of things).

    2) A very good place to speak your thoughts to the people.

    3) A very good place to campaign for new recruits.

    Wee choo keong has got one going and I think it is very pleasantly done. Can learn from each other. But do it QUICK!!!

    All the best!

  66. #66 by Malaysian For Equality on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:17 pm

    Personally I feel the opposition parties in the interim should elect Kit Siang to be the Pro Tem Opposition Leader. The new opposition line up will benefit from his wealth of experience and knowledge about parliamentary procedure. Let us face it, most of them are new kids on the block and will welcome a guiding hand.

    Yes it is true that Kak Wan qualifies for the position by virtue of being head of the party with most seats in parliament but I feel she is not suited to the role. She is gentle and self-effacing by nature and widely loved for her humility and integrity but she does not have the ‘killer instinct’ which is required in the cut and thrust of often incendiary parliamentary debates.

    Kit Siang however deserves a break having served so diligently and with fervour for so many years. Kit Siang is an icon and a tough act to follow. The leader of the opposition has to be a person with intellect, charisma, master of his or her material at hand and with communication skills. It goes without saying that Anwar Ibrahim fits the bill pefectly but we need to get him into parliament first!

  67. #67 by controlnation1 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:27 pm

    I think Uncle Lim had more credibility and experience(golden 39)than WA.She being the sole representative of PKR in last election to be the opposition head is unthinkable.She didnt command a strong voice in parliment personally.I never heard her criticising the government critically whatsoever.Although since our parliment is in Malay……..

  68. #68 by devilmaster on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:39 pm

    Uncle Kit himself do not need rest. Stop suggesting rest to him. I am a DAP member. I know that. He is a workaholic. This had been further proven when he travelled to & fro from states to states to give ceramahs recently. He reads blogs until middle of the night. How many of us can do that?!

    Just ask Uncle Kit what i said is right or wrong! Or you can double confirm with some DAP leaders. He is a workaholic. Let Uncle Kit work and continue as Parliamentary Opposition Leader. He will be very happy with that.

  69. #69 by gofortruth on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:41 pm

    Uncle Lim
    I think before the 12th GE, rarely you would get people from BN to visit blogs like this or may be except that info “mean”ister what’s his name?
    But, they will be keeping a close watch now as lots of analysts commented that internet played a big part to the fall of BN.
    So, can uncle Lim set up a personal e mail for us to submit our loose thoughts & strategies for your perusal rather than making them openly known to BN. Not a good thing to do according to Sun Tze!
    Thanks !

  70. #70 by devilmaster on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:46 pm

    “So, can uncle Lim set up a personal e mail for us to submit our loose thoughts & strategies for your perusal rather than making them openly known to BN.” – gofortruth

    [email protected]

  71. #71 by gofortruth on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:48 pm

    devilmaster Says:
    Today at 23: 39.59 (1 minute ago)
    Even the strongest man with the best hammer must know where is the best place to land the perfect strike in order to crack a rock. So also the toughest workaholic must consider carefully what work to get into in order to achieve the best result.

  72. #72 by gofortruth on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:49 pm

    Thanks for the e mail link!

  73. #73 by jbozz on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:49 pm

    Watch that Mr. Taib will he go Australia again with bag full of Ringgit Malaysia, and disgraced M’sian as a minister he don’t know how to fill up the currency declaration form.


  74. #74 by waterfrontcoolie on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:50 pm

    YB, I hate to say it. Many DAP supporters are just too green and myopic! They don’t seem to take the long term view of the Malaysian political environment. With such attitude, DAP would be forever an opposition party until kingdom come!!
    I thought we are championing for a Malaysian Malaysia!

  75. #75 by mendela on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:51 pm

    Hi Kit,

    You and other DAP leaders must build up a stronger base in Sarawak and Sabah quickly.

    Should BR win more than 2 thirds of Parliament seats in East Malaysia in the recent GE, BR would have became the ruling party!

    DAP must concur these 2 states ASAP!

  76. #76 by yhsiew on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:54 pm

    PKR won the most parliamentary seats and therefore should have the first priority to decide whether its own people want the post of parliamentary opposition leader. If PKR decides that its people would not take up the post then lim_kit_siang can consider. Please don’t jump the gun; it is not a “DAP only” party – always think of others and their feelings when making decisions in a coalition party.

    Should a PKR personnel take up the post, then lim_kit_siang can negotiate to be the ASSISTANT parliamentary opposition leader.

  77. #77 by I Malaysian on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:00 am

    In the recent DAP assembly Lim Guan Heng had named Anwar as the most appropriate person to be the next PM. Based on his call and the bridging role played by Anwar, it makes all the senses to propose Wan Azizah/Anwar as leader of the opposition parties.
    PKR, being instrumental in the formation of coalition must be allowed to lead for fostering better understanding between DAP and PAS.
    In that sense, your decision is most welcome.

  78. #78 by devilmaster on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:12 am

    PKR, being instrumental in the formation of coalition must be allowed to lead for fostering better understanding between DAP and PAS. – I Malaysian

    Yes, Anwar played a great role in fostering better understanding between DAP & PAS. But this should not be mixed up with tasks performed inside Parliament House. Parliament is not for anyone to repay whatever good deeds. Parliament is for debate. Bills are going to be passed to become laws. You dont play a fool with that. This is not a joking act.

    So far, Anwar Ibrahim has not make any announcement yet on his political future.

    How the Oppositions perform will depends on how effective the Opposition Leader is.

  79. #79 by a-malaysian on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:21 am

    YB Kit is no doubt the best Opposition Leader you can ever find.

    But politics being politics, each party members and elected representatives are all still human being. Each has his/her own characteristic and idealogy.Wining and power tends to create arrogant people and this will somehow creeps into their heads.

    Majority of the elected parliamentarians are first timer and they need a lot of guidances and leads. I am sure many may make a fool of themselves in parliament. You need to know a lot of things of what and what not you can do, understand fully the constitutions, recall past events at the finger tips, seeking for answers and ways to tackle those monkeys on the opposite bench.

    Being the Opposition Leader, one must be able to control and rein in all members of the coalitions to make a common stand against the adversory.

    So when the three parties meet to select the choice for the Opposition Leaders, they must select base on capabilities and not which party has won more seats.

    GE 13 – We must ensure that umno bn do not regain the strength like they do for the past fifty years.

  80. #80 by mendela on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:21 am

    May be BR should make Jeff Ooi becomes the Opposition Leader, he can sing and he plays guitar too.

    Malaysian Parliament in session should be fun to watch!

  81. #81 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:25 am

    Azizah as Oppoition leader in P’ment?? We need a more forceful speaker.

  82. #82 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:26 am

    Anwar would be the natural choice once he gets elected.

  83. #83 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:28 am

    Meanwhile?? Meanwhile Abdullah Badawi may suddenly wake up from his slumber and thought he’s the opposition leader since BN has lost the election!!

  84. #84 by Raitman on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:35 am

    Uncle Lim,

    I think you should be the Opposition Leader.

  85. #85 by mendela on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:50 am

    What about Tony Phua?
    What about the camera man?
    What about Nurul?
    What about the Hindraf leader whom still under ISA detention?

    It is wonderful as we now have so many great choices!

    What about making LGE to take up double duties, CM of Penang cum Opposition Leader in Parliament?

  86. #86 by limkamput on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 1:22 am

    “I don’t see PKR or PAS supporting Hindraf for example so how are you going to represent plural Malaysia, to wit, Malaysian Indians, for example, if you consign away the big opposition microphone in Parliament?” Jeffrey

    DAP, PKR and PAS must not forget the catalytic role played by Hindraf that had paved the way to their big win in the recent election. So, please jointly petition, plead or do whatever you can to secure the release of those under ISA.

  87. #87 by mycroft on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 1:30 am

    I wonder if any party in Malaysia is willing to support the following causes:

    1. Legalisation of abortion on demand
    2. Legalisation of anal and oral intercourse between hetero and homosexual couples
    3. Repeal of the death penalty
    4. Recognition of Israel
    5. Repeal of Islamic laws on non-civil matters such as the khalwat laws

  88. #88 by limkamput on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 1:35 am

    Sdr Lim, can we not let all the opposition MPs vote for the opposition leader and the deputy leader. The leader and the deputy shall then select shadow ministers for important portfolios like Finance and economy, internal security, defence, human resource, education, utilities, health, transportation, environment, local government, housing, trade and industry etc. No need to follow the BN set up; you people should have your own ideas the best way to organise the government.

  89. #89 by lalaw on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 1:38 am

    Right move YB LKS!!!!! As far as my concern, team work is the most importance & critical during “war” in parliament. “Opposition Leader” just a conventional & traditional perception. To me, there are 82 OPPOSITION LEADERS leading us to the TRUTH in parliament now…..

  90. #90 by Justhis on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 1:57 am

    Dear Mr. Lim,

    You are wise in proposing Datin Seri Dr. Wan Azizah Wan Ismail.
    Opposition Leader in Parliament does not count on fearsome fight but justice and effort.
    This post is very time consuming indeed.
    Along as you and other leaders support her when facing attacks from ‘parliament sexist’, she will be fine. After all, it is only inter-dependency can form a close tie. DAP-PKR-PAS.

    Time is an important factor. You have 4 to 5 years to prove that your Teams can perform.
    All the 5 States under Oppositions banner will have 3 to 4 States strongly looking forward economy developments to gauge how well Oppositions perform. Other than PKR, DAP and PAS have not much experience on this field before, even though they will pick up fast. But how fast could it be and how many experts in PKR except Anwar Ibrahim can share their experience? It is not doing business but developing economical positive States.

    PKR has a strong intention to replace NEP with another practical plan. Preliminary described as “poorer get more” and “poorest get most” sort of plan. When come to poor, you can see many actors. Foreseeable complaints will surface and easily picked up as issues by politicians beside racist. Any Opposition leader in handling cases as such will tend to make mistakes. As leader you need time to discuss with other leaders on poverty measurement, sharing management, monitoring systems, …..
    This will be one of the yard sticks use for measuring your Teams. How well you can share your ideas, opinions without hurting other Team members and if it happens who can repair the damage. Be watchful of the real sticks ready to hit on by BN.

    There were talks about NEP is being obsolete due to Globalisation and competition from other countries have stage up better and faster than Malaysia. So can these few States prove something different and how soon? Who will spend time on foreign issues, surveys, relationships if only Parliament is the political batter ground?

    Before 2/3 denial, corruption cases can easily sweep under carpet was claimed by Oppositions. Offering chances for someone to corrupt and then pick it as another episode is indeed a good political asset. But it is hardly convincible to those who voted to deny 2/3. It is counted on Oppositions (if not falling into same pit) spending time to put corrupter behind bar of justice. Leave alone saving country resources for development use.

    I appreciate you have intention to buy time for better use.

    Once again, I respect you.

    Thank you

  91. #91 by anak_malaysia on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 2:43 am

    No doubt that PKR is one of the strong factor pulling the PAS, PKR and DAP together and winning the most seat in Parliment, we need someone outspoken. We need a very outspoken person, no deny there is no one except Sdr Lim. Probably Sdr Lim need to appoint an apprentice to groom for the next opposition leader?

    i still not agree to have Wan Azizah as the Leader of Opposition in Parliment. Too soft, probably? Yet to see her in action. This round, Opposition must show a very high performance. This is a golden chance.

  92. #92 by KS R on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 2:49 am

    Hi Uncle Lim

    I do not agree. You should lead the Opposition may be until Dato Sri Anuar. Please release the Five Hindaraf leaders soon

  93. #93 by cto on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 3:00 am

    I applaud this decision and I think that it is a good one.

    I see this as a chance to dramatically change the political landscape over a sustained period of time and continue to win over the public. For the greater good, discussions on individual meritocracy has to take a temporary backseat. Kit’s personal sacrifices not withstanding.

  94. #94 by BNseedell on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 3:05 am

    Dea YB, if Perak can have a MB chosen from PAS, which has got the smallest number of state assemblymen, it can also be applied to the post of leader of opposition in parliament. It does not necessarily be the one with the majority MPs. Get all opposition MPs to agree on this arrangement. You may hold this position temporarily until Anwar Ibrahim becomes a MP through the ballot boxes. I believe most Malaysians will be happy if you could pass over this leader’s role to him if he is a MP officially. Give Anwar a chance to be the leader of oppositin in parliament and let him handle the MPs from BN, especially those who are racist and chicky.

    However, if majority MPs in the opposition want you to lead then you should not refuse. Take it and do it to the best of your usual ability….

  95. #95 by Open Air on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 3:58 am


    mr. lim

    is this your final stand as a politician?

    just wonder.


  96. #96 by LadyGodiva on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 7:15 am

    “ people should have your own ideas the best way to organise the government.” limkamput

    “You people”??? “You people”??? Just who do you think you are?!

  97. #97 by ahluck on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 7:31 am

    Wan Azizah as the Leader of Opposition in Parliment? [deleted] you be the leader uncle kit! maybe until Anwar comes in and you can sit back and look see!

  98. #98 by Godfather on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 8:09 am


    That’s not a nice thing to say about a lady who has sacrificed a hell of a lot for change in Bolehland. We should show some respect to our Opposition colleagues.

  99. #99 by sotong on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 8:14 am

    It seems that Mr.Lim has won his greatest political battle and it is time to move on and play a supportive role to ensure Opposition parties form government in the next election.

    Anwar is the right choice for many reasons….he, like Mr. Lim, is a great and strong leader and will become the next PM – BN days in government are numbered.

  100. #100 by JDoe on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 8:22 am

    guys, side track a bit. instead of the name Barisan Rakyat or Barisan Alternative, wouldn’t it be better to have Barisan Bangsa Malaysia? Something that identify us as one race. Not rakyat berbilang kaum..

  101. #101 by sotong on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 8:26 am

    Wan Azizah and her childrens had gone through a lot….we should leave them alone and hope they will recover from their terrible experience when her husband and their father, an ex-DPM, was put in jail for political reasons.

  102. #102 by pulau_sibu on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 8:27 am

    ha, why you all did not read the story behind.
    wan azizah will be the speaker of the parliament.
    lim kit siang will have a different task.he will be the deputy prime minister and anwar will be the prime minister.
    don’t ask uncle lim to be the opposition leader. because it will be replaced by abdullah badawi or najib razak

  103. #103 by LadyGodiva on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 8:42 am

    “If you (limkamput) believe that it is “totally uncompromisable”, then why are you still with DAP ? ” Godfather

    Good point! But don’t hold your breath for a rational answer if I were you.

    “I can go along with the coalition governments…” which is a far cry from the position of those who keep regurgitating anti-PAS statements in every thread of this blog. It is a far cry from the position of those who openly demand that DAP should get out of the ruling coalitions, and even let BN rule again.” Godfather

    In direct reference to he who stands above all others currently studying philosophy – “regurgitating anti-PAS” material, obssessed with the ideological differences to the exclusion of everything else.

  104. #104 by LadyGodiva on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 8:43 am

    “The raison d’etre of DAP is Malaysians First. ” limkamput

    It is not worth your time trying to figure out what this self-proclaimed pseudointellectual that has run amok in this blog for a while now, mean by “Malaysians First”. Does he expect foreigners to be appointed to the Cabinet and state EXCOs??

  105. #105 by dap-for-pj on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 8:57 am

    HAYAAA… all……you think the majority of the Rakyat will let LKS rest? This entry by our workaholic LKS is to guage the support for him to continue to be the people’s choice’s opposition leader. Otherwise, you all start shouting that he is undemocratic, unjust, give him ‘dead cat’ to eat. Just think, who else in the current parliament is more experienced and qualified than him? I can still conjure up the image of him ‘belasah’ that good for nothing Sothianathan and the other bocor gang in last parliament seating. He is my ideal hero, FOREVER. FULL STOP.

  106. #106 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:01 am

    If nothing else, this lady of steel and mild manners deserves to be honoured for standing by her man in his hour of need and ‘trumped-up disgrace’.

    Yes, if she is ready and willing, she can be the Opposition leader. However, does she want it. She isn’t a politician by choice, remember. She will do fine but only if she wants it for now. Anwar may not want one of his supporters to step down for him in a by-election just yet. He has a bigger agenda for now, I’d surmise. As for Opposition Leader post, any PKR stalwart with the intellectual grit and depth can carry on the struggle for freedom, equality and justice in the august chambers of Parliament and show the world the abysmal shamelessness that is the unmistakable hallmark of BN MPs.

  107. #107 by limkamput on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:03 am

    see ladygorilla, the more you write, the more stupidity you show. What is “Malaysians First” to you? Your posting above just shows that you are completely scr*wed on this.

  108. #108 by limkamput on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:04 am

    Ladygorilla says: ““You people”??? “You people”??? Just who do you think you are?!””

    I am the one and only LIMKAMPUT. At least I am not like you – a coward who never stop changing IDs. So today you are Ladygorilla, tomorrow or by this afternoon what are you going to be – blackeye, darkhorse, kickbutt, colonel, diaperhead, Dracula?

    If those people I addressed to as “you people” did not take offence, why are you so worked up? The only inference I can draw is you are outlandish to the moronic side.

  109. #109 by SteveBenedict on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:07 am

    Bagi saya sesiapa saja yang menjadi wakil kepada semua parti pembangkang tidaklah menjadi masalah besar. Adalah menjadi tangungjawab semua MP DAP, PKR dan PAS berkerja sama dalam memastikan MP BN tidak buat sesuka hati. Saya mau lihat bagaimana YB. Nazri Aziz dan kawan-kawannya berdepan dengan MP pembangkang sekarang. Dulu mereka terlalu angkuh dengan mejoriti yang ada, sekarang saya mau dengar siapa yang BODOH, MONYET dan Racist sekarang.

  110. #110 by limkamput on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:13 am

    Ladygorilla says: “Good point! But don’t hold your breath for a rational answer if I were you”.

    I have no problem with the response given by Godfather. I think he understood me and I understood him. There is no need for you to regurgitate him. If you have nothing to contribute, just shut your mouth. What you did is plagiarism.

  111. #111 by controlnation1 on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:17 am

    Hey,Anwar himself is not so much younger than Lim.Anwar 61,Lim 68.

    By The way,If BR/DPP were to made a shadow cabinet which post should BR leaders held?

    Prime minister-Anwar Ibrahim

    Deputy minister-Lim kit Siang

    Health minister-Dr Tan Seng Giaw

    Justice minister(newly created)-Karpal Singh

    Agriculture minister-Hadi Awang

    Minister of Science and Technology-Tony Pua

    Blog minister-Jeff Ooi

    Home minister-Tian Chua

    domestic trade minister-Hussam Musa

    Any suggestion?

  112. #112 by limkamput on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:20 am

    ahluck Says: Wan Azizah as the Leader of Opposition in Parliment? [deleted] you be the leader uncle kit! maybe until Anwar comes in and you can sit back and look see!

    What is this for? Sometimes I wonder why are we here talking against sexists, racists and bigots? This fellow is three in one – racist, sexist and bigot.

  113. #113 by patriotic1994 on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:26 am

    Kit must be very happy to see so many of you support him.

    It is not that clear what he meant by Parliamentary Opposition Leader. I only guess it must be a Leader among all the Oppositions in Parliament and in this case, Azizah is the most suitable one to represent PKR, DAP and PAS, at this moment. When Anwar is back, then Anwar will be the head.

    This does not mean Kit no longer be a leader for DAP in Parliament. He will still outspoken as usual.

  114. #114 by devilmaster on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:37 am

    We should not speculate on whether Anwar Ibrahim will become Parliament Opposition Leader or not. There is no sign from him of wanting to become a MP at the moment. Now the choice is between LKS or Wan Azizah. To me, Wan Azizah is only the 3rd choice. The 2nd choice would be Abdul Hadi Awang.

  115. #115 by limkamput on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:53 am

    “The raison d’etre of DAP is Malaysians First. ” limkamput

    LadyGovida says: “It is not worth your time trying to figure out what this self-proclaimed pseudointellectual that has run amok in this blog for a while now, mean by “Malaysians First”. Does he expect foreigners to be appointed to the Cabinet and state EXCOs??”

    On second thought, I don’t think you will ever understand what Malaysians First meant, judging from the question you asked of me. Taking pity of you let me explain. Please be humble and learn something new to day, ok.

    Malaysians First means Malaysians First, not Malays first, not Chinese first, not Indians first, not Kadazans first, not Ibans first and not anybody first but Malaysians first, understand? It means complete equality among Malaysians – Malaysians no longer segregated and “hierarchised” by race, religions, ethnicity, regions and family background. Got it? The fact that you asked “do I expect foreigners to be appointed to the cabinet and state” shows that you are completely scr*wed in your understanding of the fundamental philosophy of DAP. I usually don’t humiliate others for nothing. Frankly you are not fit to be here. You have to learn to read first from the postings of others before you venture to open you big mouth.

  116. #116 by limkamput on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 9:56 am

    May be Sdr Lim is just trying to gauge the “feel” of bloggers here on who should rightly assume the post of opposition leader.

  117. #117 by grace on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 10:03 am

    mr lim,
    you have my support. as we alawys claim that majority rules. in this case pkr has the most and thus pkr should hold the oppsition post.

  118. #118 by controlnation1 on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 10:11 am

    I think the percentage of winning should be the top most priority.Like in SPM.The person with 10A’s are better than the person with 11A’s 2B’s 2C’s and 2 D’s.As you can see the person with 10 A’s got straight A’s and did not overevaluate their abilities eventhough he can do much more.Plus if not for PKR/independent in <3 cornered fight especially in Sabah and Sarawak.DAP would obtain more seats than PKR.

  119. #119 by andy6000 on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 10:15 am

    Uncle Lim pek, hope you will be oppositon leader no longer and help malaysia rakyat to get a better life.

  120. #120 by Malaysian For Equality on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 10:36 am

    I dont think it is productive to ‘lobby’ for either Kit or Kak Wan in this blog, it only creates bad feeling and maybe lead to unhelpful imputations on the coalition.

    The undeniable fact is that Kit Siang as things stand, is the supreme candidate for the post based on his experience, knowledge and integrity in upholding the rights all Malaysians. If one thinks that Kit Siang is ‘desperate’ for the job than one has never really known what makes him tick. I am convinced that Kit Siang will be requested by PKR and PAS to lead the opposition because of his supreme knowledge of parliamentary procedure, indefatiguability , moral authority and intellect. His command and eloquence in spoken Bahasa Malaysia may not be ideal but he always manages to demolish his opponents by the force of his arguments, moral authority and integrity.

    If Kit Siang declines the offer, his can serve in no less an important role in promoting parliamentary integrity by overseeing the select committees for the opposition.

  121. #121 by cto on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 11:00 am

    controlnation1 Says:

    Today at 10: 11.34 (37 minutes ago)
    I think the percentage of winning should be the top most priority.Like in SPM.The person with 10A’s are better than the person with 11A’s 2B’s 2C’s and 2 D’s.As you can see the person with 10 A’s got straight A’s and did not overevaluate their abilities eventhough he can do much more.Plus if not for PKR/independent in <3 cornered fight especially in Sabah and Sarawak.DAP would obtain more seats than PKR.


    Wow – this way of thinking feels so much Zen like. :)

    But wait a second, let’s test this hypothesis.

    1. Assuming that the 11 A scorer scored As on the same subjects at the 10 A scorer, isn’t the 11 A a superset of 10 A and therefore better.
    2. I thought being an overachiever is a good thing, not a bad thing.
    3. If the 10 A scorer can do much more and does not want to do it, is this person lazy or what? No confidence perhaps? Is this good or bad? It is tragic when a person with talent does not use the talent given.

    Conclusion – It is only Zen like but not fair dinkum. :)

  122. #122 by leeann on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 11:12 am

    I like changes , I support Wan Azizah.
    I support LKS’s decision.
    How could someone be in the same position for so long, can get very bored.
    Therefore, Wan Azizah is the perfect person. Women can make very good debater.
    They are very ‘chang kei’

  123. #123 by jennifer cheong on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 11:13 am

    Dear leaders,
    Pls choose somebody who will perform like LIM KIT SIANG as opposition leader in parliament, but not somebody who are too soft and have no firm stand and political believe for justice and people’s welfare.No matter who stand as opposition leader, I hope he or she will be a person whom the RAKYAT can trust and rely on as our HOPE is on him/her for at least 3 to 4 years to fight for our rights and social/political justice.I believe Lim Kit Siang, YB Anwar Ibrahim and PAS will have wisdom to choose.

  124. #124 by devilmaster on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 11:22 am

    A eleven-man Newcastle United team might not be better than a 10-man Manchester United team.

  125. #125 by pablopabla on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 11:26 am


    You earn my admiration for being a servant of the people above self. By giving way to Datin Seri Wan Azizah, you are not indicating that you are any lesser. In my eyes, that is probably the best move at the moment to consolidate and increase support for the PKR-DAP-PAS coalition.

    As long as you continue to serve with your youthful zest, you will always be remembered as the people’s champion regardless of your position or status in society. That makes one a bigger man than one simply with a position.

    I am sure the leaders of DAP, PKR and PAS would be able to come up with the best solution for all. Now is not the time to fight for places. Why should we all be fighting for places? If we had not collectively put our votes together (for PKR-PAS-DAP) during the past election and won so many seats, we wouldn’t be bickering about these positions. So, why are we now being envious or greedy about positions or using stats to ridicule the ability of our co-partners? That makes a mockery of our so-called principle of cooperation. Might as well have gone 3-corner fights instead.

    As what LKS has said, he supports Datin Seri as Opp Leader AND Datuk Seri when he is re-elected into Parliament.

  126. #126 by jus legitimum on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 11:34 am

    LKS is still the best candidate for the post of opposition leader in the august house.Besides being experienced,outspoken,charismatic,he can look at many issues retrospectively.This is especially important when you have to debate on scandals and problematic issues that are linked to a certain event that happened in the past.LKS is endowed with good memory and wits.Right now nobody else in BR has that kind of political stature to qualify for that post.I am not a DAP member but just an observer.

  127. #127 by mchoice2008 on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 11:45 am

    Dear Y B Lim,
    IMPORTANT!! Please listen carefully.
    We are DAP supporters.
    We all know that BN has got less than 50% votes in Semenanjung Malaysia. BN is on the fall, and BR is on the rise.
    Although the election is just over, we suggest that BR should start to get prepared for the next election. Of course, the most important thing is to demonstrate role-model state government in the states like Penang, Perak and Selangor etc.
    The other thing you should do is to have some massive recruitment drives for BR(DAP in particular) in all major west coast cities like Penang, KL, Ipoh etc. You may not be aware, but the good election results actually result in many more people wanting to join PKR and DAP.
    As a matter of fact, many newfaces who represented PKR in GE12 “unexpectedly” got elected to become MP. It is an “interesting” phenomenon that many “smart” people have observed. Many BN supporters (especially soft/mild/passive) type are also prepared to jump ship as they find BN is deteriorating.
    As to take on BN in coming selections, we seriously urge BR to take in more members. Though this must be carefully done. As the Chinese saying says, “Ren Duo Hao Pan Si”. BR needs to expand. It is time to go to the next level.

  128. #128 by andy6000 on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:01 pm

    YB Lim, i think now only the game start. Hope it won be game over easily.

  129. #129 by ksham on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:07 pm

    The opposition leader’s post should be discussed behind closed doors and not openly debated. The 5 states won by the opposition does not reflect the popularity of DAP/PKR or PAS for that matter. Since it was a 1 to 1 fight for the seats, it only goes to show whosoever put in the most candidates got the most seats. The people voted for the OPPOSITION PARTIES, not the BN. The malays voted DAP, the Chinese voted PAS and the Indians voted PKR in this MYGE08 in no particular preference for any one party. They only marked ‘X’ in the opposition column. They did not see whether it was PAS/DAP or PKR. ‘Deny BN 2/3’s majority’. To win Sel and Perak was a shock. It was a golden opportunity for the opposition to rule the states. THEY SHOULD NOW SHOW BARISAN NASIONAL HOW THE STATE SHOULD BE RULED. I believe each state should pursue their agenda to to the best of their ability keeping in mind that the tides could change in the next election. Let the people decide over the next 4/5 years whether they should give the mandate again to the opposition. The states of Kedah and Kelantan under PAS is easier to assess. The people in the states of Perak and Selangor being more multiracial will see how the state govt run their affairs. Penang state will be the role model in future election. It will be the yardstick on good governance. It has absolute control over its affairs and IF they can transform the state to the level transcending race,religion or political inclinations, then I see it will be what Malaysia is to be for all MALAYSIANS.

  130. #130 by cto on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 12:23 pm

    devilmaster Says:

    Today at 11: 22.25 (55 minutes ago)
    A eleven-man Newcastle United team might not be better than a 10-man Manchester United team


    True but if you say that a eleven-man Newcastle United team is not as good as a 10-man Manchester United team, that is a different conversation. :)

  131. #131 by k1980 on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 1:08 pm

    Mohammed Radzi is the first top level official in the either the National Front or UMNO to quit after the March 8 general elections. It was not clear if the move signaled the appearance of cracks in the ruling party’s unity, or whether he was forced out of the job by Abdullah.

    Analysts blamed the election losses on Abdullah’s failure to fulfill promises he made in 2003 after taking office to end corruption and ensure racial equality. Some of his old ministers were even accused of fanning racial tensions between the majority Malays and the minority ethnic Chinese and Indians.

  132. #132 by grace on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 2:09 pm

    If PKR ,DAP and PAS can administer the few states very well, free form corruuption, cronysim or nepotism, I believe they would sweep the whole of Peninsula Malaysia in the next GE.
    Go for it, Mr Lim. You have more capable people than the BN.
    Karpal Singh’s family is very talented, Ramasamy ,LGE , Tony Pua ,Jeff Ooi and lots more are inteeligent people.
    PLEASE TO NOT SUCCUMB TO TEMPTATION is my advice to all holdingpower!!

  133. #133 by limkamput on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 2:40 pm

    Godfather says: “If you believe that it is “totally uncompromisable”, then why are you still with DAP ?”

    You are a typical arrogant and fanatical supporter. You think DAP belongs to you? Honestly, if you are the SG of DAP I will quit no matter how much I love the ideal of DAP.

    Dr. Chen Man Hin also gave a lot of comments of PAS’ theological state. Why don’t you ask him to quit too?

  134. #134 by limkamput on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 2:41 pm

    I think you are fanatic and blind supporter of DPP. Before election and for the purpose of electioneering, we may resort to beating up the drum to gather support. I think now is not the time to behave like a Nazi supporter. Ask yourself in what way are you different from some of those UMNO supporters in Penang, Ipoh and Selangor recently. I hope DAP leadership is not a group of people who look forward to supporter like you – b*ll carrying, fanatical, blind and brainless.

  135. #135 by KKK on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 2:55 pm

    Let’s look at the final picture and amongst the 3 leaders from DAP, PKR and PAS, Anwar is the better choice for the majority of the Malaysian. Mind you, whoever is the Opposition leader is potentially going to be next Malaysian Prime Minister so I wrote with this in mind.

    DAP. No matter how you looked at it, DAP is still associated with the Chinese and the majority Malay will not accept a Chinese to be the PM. Like it or not, this is an undeniable fact so there is nothing to argue here.

    PAS. Again, no matter how you looked at it, PAS is associated with Islam and Malay and the non-Muslim & non-Malay will always be a bit uncomfortable with them as PM. They are not all against Islam but simply wanted freedom of religions. Again, like it or not, this is an undeniable fact so again, no argument needed.

    PKR. It was Anwar who has been able to forge a bridge between DAP and PAS and this is the vital ingredient for the success in this 12th general election. PAS couldn’t do it. Lim Kit Siang couldn’t either so again, an undeniable fact.

    So it’s logically the head of the opposition would have to be Anwar, without whom, PAS and DAP would again likely go their separate way and BN the big winner. And amongst the 3 parties PKR is the most multi-racial in nature so should be comfortable with the majority of Malaysian from all races and religions.

    As for some commenting Azizah is not worthy of being the Opposition leader. This is just a very short sighted comment because she is merely a short term solution till Anwar comes back. Some mentioned that she is not a great leader or orator but they are missing the point. She is not supposed to be one, but one who hold the torch till Anwar’s return and she did carried out her mission successfully. As the saying goes, behind every successful man, there is a woman and Azizah is that woman to Anwar so she deserve my respect.

  136. #136 by KKK on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 3:03 pm

    IMO Lim Kit Siang did the right thing by supporting Azizah aka Anwar to be the Opposition leader. Unlike his previous Perak fiasco by trying to boycott the MB swearing in ceremony. That was pretty badly handled from a person with such long history of politic.

  137. #137 by songsong on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 3:33 pm

    Your words have a big impact on the malaysians. Except her and Anwar, I couldn’t think of anyone else that would be accepted majority of the rakyat.

  138. #138 by citizen on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 4:10 pm

    I think YB Lim is just being fair and practicing democracy. Though, Wan Azizah is not as outspoken, some even addressed her as a ‘zombie’ (from other websites), but YB’s decision is wise and respectable. Unless, PKR choose to let go of that, it is not wise for YB to grab that position. If he does, people will see him as power thirsty, not cooperating with other opposition parties, etc, etc. If Wan Azizah let go and propose YB Lim, I can say these leaders are the role models for all politicians.

    Remember though we live in a plural society, Malaysia is not 100% free from concerns related to race. As long as DAP and PKR are still two separate parties (though both are oppositions), we cannot choose the leader out of two parties based on merits. Democracy process should take the lead. We all have to remember, this is not giving in but just have to let go because the fact PKR got more parliamentary seats, we have to accept and respect it.

    You have my support, YB.

  139. #139 by alegria on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 5:14 pm

    Guys, give uncle kit a break, he needs to take a breather for once. We all know DSAI will be in parliament soon so he should be the one countering the BN in parliament. I hope uncle kit will take a rest, take care of himself, a diabetic, he needs some time off. The opposition has more than 1/3, so there will be more lively even without uncle kit as the opposition leader.

    We are just being too selfish by wanting uncle kit to continue.

    [Kit is no diabetic. – Admin)

  140. #140 by jetaime.f on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 8:10 pm

    The choice of a leader should be based on one’s merits and not just democracy alone. Back in 2004’s election Democracy resulted in the winnings of BN and allowing Datuk Ahmad Badawi to lead …… was elected by democracy…..the leader though was appointed but was supported by democracy…..what happened next? Malaysia flourish and the people live happily ever after….

    If all the board of directors and management of the Forbes 500 companies are elected or appointed based on Democracy and all things at ceteris paribus, don’t believe there will be Forbes 500 companies in the world…..perhaps less……perhaps nil…..

    The element of a “being constructive” in merits based decision is greater than using the democracy based decision process. This is also dependent on the nature of the country, the people and nation….similarly in a stock market, information is semi-efficient and is not strong form (ie. not all information is 100% reflected in the prices)…..

  141. #141 by Malaysian For Equality on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 10:09 pm

    This is a non-issue now. Azizah has been elected as opposition leader. Congratultations!

    It is well recognised that Kak Wan is not a ‘natural’ politician. She held the fort heroically and with dignity for the husband throughout his persecution by BN and will continue to do so until he is able to come back formally in the Malaysian political scene.

  142. #142 by controlnation1 on Thursday, 20 March 2008 - 5:03 am

    “”1. Assuming that the 11 A scorer scored As on the same subjects at the 10 A scorer, isn’t the 11 A a superset of 10 A and therefore better.””

    Generally,in the 12 GE DAP and PKR always contest in different seats except for some few in Sabah and Sarawak.So no same subject.

    “”2. I thought being an overachiever is a good thing, not a bad thing.””

    But in this case getting a few B,C, and expecially D’s are not called overachieving(in a good way that is)

    “”3. If the 10 A scorer can do much more and does not want to do it, is this person lazy or what? No confidence perhaps? Is this good or bad? It is tragic when a person with talent does not use the talent given.””

    Unfortunately when we map this scenario into the political scene it could be summarised as No confidence.We all know the opposition didnt expect to win so may seats.So in many ways the DAP only concentrate with the seats that they had a high percentage of winning.And in the seats that they had won, they did extremely well.No opposition ever score more than 15,000 majority like the DAP.So we can see the DAP is the stronger player.Its just dont have enough confidence therefore enabling PKR (beside PAS) grabbing the rest.Come on, the DAP only contest in less than 1/5 of parlimentary seats.

    “”Conclusion – It is only Zen like but not fair dinkum. “”

    Maybe it isnt but most people get the idea.

  143. #143 by k1980 on Thursday, 20 March 2008 - 8:57 am

    :sniff: :sniff: No more APs for poor me :sniff: :sniff: :sniff:

  144. #144 by alegria on Thursday, 20 March 2008 - 10:35 am

    My apolologies, I got the information from the newspaper report. But it is also a relieve to know uncle kit is healthy. Thank you for the clarification.

  145. #145 by kkchong on Thursday, 20 March 2008 - 1:05 pm

    YB LKS
    Save your energy for the 13th GE in four year time. Kak Wan is right choice as Opp Leader, she have 82 backup in Parliment in May opening session . Let see and waiting for.


  146. #146 by Menang atau mati on Friday, 21 March 2008 - 12:35 am

    it is not important as to who the opposition leader should be so long as he/she is competent, leads with sincerity and the opposition together acts as “one”

  147. #147 by Justhis on Sunday, 23 March 2008 - 2:09 am

    GE has over already.
    Parliament is not the only batter ground.
    Don’t just think of debate in Parliament.
    You think debate can fill your stomachs ?
    Oil price is exceeding $110/barrel, share market slump (world wide), earth quake in China, flooding in US, war in Iraq, maybe Greenhouse effect is real……….. All these have effect to Malaysia. Either as supply chain or as export market these will impact us.

    Please…… lah, let the elected MP have time to concentric what to do with more than one third of voters behind him.
    Some times, DAP-PKR-PAS can be more united when under fire in Parliament. Otherwise they will be disunited & become proud also. You think they are orang Suci?
    Let Datin play the gentle side and see how ruling parties react.
    Strategy mah !

    In short term, look for corrupters to vomit out what they swallowed; National Treasure! This task will take time. But must do fast before all documents and proofs disappear and many Special Royal Pangkat emerge and legally they are untouchable.
    You think they are honored as safe keeper of National Treasure kah?

  148. #148 by lakilompat on Wednesday, 26 March 2008 - 11:30 am

    I do hope the opposition leader can help to kick the EC director out

    Postal vote are a cheat, a govt. servant will be able to vote twice! Because postal votes does not use Identity Card to identify themselves.

    Try it yourself go to
    Then key in the below ID, notice both individual are the same person but one is postal the other is individual, mean same person can vote twice, that’s why they are paying RM 200 and buses to cater for these ppl to vote for BN.

    and key in the following IC nos:-
    T715511 (Postal vote ID)
    670104075529 (Normal voter ID using IC)

    Not convinced? Try
    T719756 (Postal vote ID)
    750909035727 (Normal voter ID using IC)

    That’s how Khairy won Rembau

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