Death for Azilah/Sirul – intensify demand for RCI into allegations of Najib’s involvement in Altantuya C4 murder case


The end of the murder trial of the century in the Shah Alam High Court this morning, with policemen Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri and Corporal Sirul Azhar Umar found guilty and sentenced to death for murdering Mongolian woman Altantuya Shaariibuu, and then blowing up her body in a jungle clearing on Oct 19, 2006, is not going to end public fixation with any Altantuya-Najib nexus in national and international circles.

The question that is inevitably asked is who could be behind the two Bukit Aman Special Action Squad (UTK) cops’ C4 murder of Altantuya.

Those who had thought that the end of the Altantuya murder trial, with the conviction and death sentence pronounced on Azila and Sirul, would end national and international fixation with any connection of Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak with the Altantuya murder case cannot be more wrong.

While Azilah and Sirul would appeal against the mandatory death sentence upon conviction under Section 149 of the Penal Code, their conviction and death sentence have not lessened but intensified public demands and necessity for a Royal Commission of Inquiry into swirling allegations of Najib’s involvement in the Altantuya’s C4 murder case.

At 3 pm today, Najib is announcing his new Cabinet – but this important event in his six-day premiership, which is already marred by the two Umno/Barisan Nasional defeats in the Bukit Gantang and Bukit Selambau by-elections, is totally overshadowed by the Altantuya murder case conviction and death sentences.

As Najib has repeatedly declared his innocence of any involvement in the Altantuya C4 murder case, he must act decisively to set up a Royal Commission of Inquiry to lay all the swirling allegations about his involvement in the murder case which are haunting and hounding him, his administration and the nation’s good name, to rest once and for all – whether about the accessibility of C4 explosives, the disappearance of Altantuya immigration records, the exchange of SMS messages or the disappearance of private investigator Bala Subramaniam after making public a very damaging statutory declaration about Najib.

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  1. #1 by cintanegara on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:24 pm

    “Fair and Just” to all…. The New cabinet line-up reflects the diversity of the National Front coalition, which is made up of parties representing the various races of Malaysia…Unlike the other country……

    AhPek, where’s the statistical information to substantiate your argument? We all know that you are good at compiling data…..

  2. #2 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:25 pm

    Perak : BN 31 PR 28

  3. #3 by ekans on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:29 pm

    On 9 April 2009 at 14:58.26, cintanegara said:

    DAP is trying hard to divert public attention from the corruption case involving ex Penang deputy chief. If incompetence is the cause, will DAP demand the CM to resign??? I doubt so. Their so called fight against corruption is only rhetoric and double standard. This is what we called ‘Cakap tak serupa bikin’

    Hasn’t the Penang CM cooperated with the MACC, even at the risk of being a victim of political bias like what had happened to the current Selangor MB?
    When the UMNO disciplinary board said that it had found the Malacca CM to be guilty of corruption in the form of money politics, why didn’t it demand the Malacca CM to resign instead of just giving a mere slap on the wrist?
    Could it be due to incompetence on the part of the UMNO disciplinary board?
    Or is its so-called fight against corruption just rhetoric and double standard in the mould of ‘Cakap tak serupa bikin’?

    On 9 April 2009 at 14:58.26, cintanegara said:

    Did anyone notice that each topic in this blog is classified based on categorises (right bottom side of this page)? There are more than 70 categories defined. but couldn’t find the word NEPOTISM. maybe DAP is too scared to discuss about this topic. This is what we called ‘Menepuk air di dulang, terpercik muka sendiri’

    According to the dictionary, ‘nepotism’ is defined as favouritism shown to relatives in appointing them to jobs.
    If nepotism is considered bad for politics and political parties, every politician & every member of a political party should not have family members or relatives in the same party as a safeguard, right?
    Thus, since the new UMNO president is the cousin of the new UMNO vice-president, shouldn’t UMNO do something about this first and set the precedent against nepotism?
    If not, wouldn’t the Pekan MP & his party also ‘Menepuk air di dulang, terpercik muka sendiri’?

  4. #4 by fairvoice on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:43 pm

    Why are these 2 UTK cops when taken to and fro to court and back to prision their faces are covered?? What so secreat for murders like these. They should be in full view of the public. Reporters please take note of their identies. You need to know if they are the one who are sent to the gallows.

    My strong suspicion, when time to go to the gallows some other guineapigs-prisioners are replaced and these two UTK cops are given new identies and lots of money and will be enjoying in sunside beach resort in Thailand with Thai beauties for a change!

    Otherwise do you all think these two cops are really that bodoh!! Anyway I have not a bit of sympathy for these two.
    By all means let them all go to hell if they still trust the real culprit and try to cover for him. It not worth.
    They will also be C4ed in the end. Hahahaha.
    In Bolehland and in C4 land anything is possible.

  5. #5 by taiking on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:46 pm

    The two policemen will not die. They will live on with under a changed identity elsewhere with millions and millions in their pockets. But who will be hanged as sentenced? God knows who! But it will not be them. Some poor souls would stand in for them at the gallows. They will die. But not the two policemen.

  6. #6 by taiking on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:51 pm

    Oi cintanegara. Tell us what you would like to see in the 1malaysia thingy? Huh?

  7. #7 by ekans on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:51 pm

    On 9th April 2009 at 16:24.26, cintanegara said:

    “Fair and Just” to all…. The New cabinet line-up reflects the diversity of the National Front coalition, which is made up of parties representing the various races of Malaysia…Unlike the other country……

    Yes, it may look and sound diversely fair & just, but it’s still UMNO’s BN, dominated by UMNO.

    And, is there a murder case haunting and hounding the head of government in this ‘other country’?

  8. #8 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:51 pm

    /// cintanegara Says:
    Today at 16: 24.26 (22 minutes ago)
    “Fair and Just” to all…. The New cabinet line-up reflects the diversity of the National Front coalition, ///

    How come the loser in umno youth is made a deputy minister, and the winner is not made a minister?

    What, money politics you said? Don’t all of them indulge in that?

  9. #9 by PSM on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:55 pm

    Whenever did a RCI make any difference in Malaysia? Look at the RCI for the “Police” a few years ago & the RCI fo rthe Lingam Tapes! Any changes? Look at the Kugan Case. They beat a man to death in a Police Lock-up & what happens (they conficate all the evidence from the UMMC!)?
    It’s ok, give UMNO enough rope, it will hang itself!
    And don’t waste time arguing with retards like Cintanegara…it makes no difference to these Mentally Challenged UMNO supporters!

  10. #10 by i_love_malaysia on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:58 pm

    These two stupid guys thought that they will not die and get new identity, but too bad that they will be hanged so that they have no chance to tell anyone after that because they know too much!!! Dont play play with Najis, you know what is Najis’s smell!!!

    BTW, Kerismudin is holding the home minister post now, instead of using keris, he will hold up submachine gun and launch missile from submarine to shot back Malaysian of other races other than the Supreme Race!!!

  11. #11 by cintanegara on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:59 pm

    Dear Ekans…..I beg to differ…A father-son relationship is far closer than relationship between cousins…How sure are we that the father wont interfere in the decision making process of the state government led by his son??

  12. #12 by voice on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:01 pm

    When they are dead, nobody can become the witness, we will never know who is the real villain behind the scene.

  13. #13 by Raitman on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:03 pm

    THE NAJIB ADMINISTRATION 2009

    Prime Minister
    Datuk Seri Najib Abdul Razak

    Deputy Prime Minister
    Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin

    Ministers in the Prime Minister’s Department
    Tan Sri Datuk Dr Koh Tsu Koon (Unity Affairs and Performance Management)
    Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz (Justice and & Parliament)
    Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop (Economic Planning Unit)
    Maj. Gen (R) Datuk Jamil Khir Baharom (Islamic Religious Affairs)

    Deputy Ministers
    Datuk Liew Vui Keong
    Senator Datuk Dr Mashitah Ibrahim
    Datuk S. K. Devamany
    Ahmad Maslan
    Senator T. Murugiah

    Finance
    Minister: Datuk Seri Najib Razak
    Minister II: Datuk Ahmad Husni Mohamad Hanadzlan
    Deputy: Datuk Chor Chee Heung
    Deputy: Senator Datuk Dr Awang Adek Hussein

    Education
    Minister: Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin
    Deputy: Datuk Dr. Wee Ka Siong
    Deputy: Datuk Dr Puad Zakarshi

    Transport
    Minister: Datuk Ong Tee Keat
    Deputy: Datuk Abdul Rahim Bakri
    Deputy: Datuk Robert Lau Hoi Chew

    Entrepreneurship, Agriculture and Commodities
    Minister: Tan Sri Bernard Dompok
    Deputy: Datuk Hamzah Zainuddin

    Home
    Minister: Datuk Seri Hishamuddin Hussein
    Deputy: Datuk Wira Abu Seman Yusop
    Deputy: Encik Jelaing Mersat

    Information, Communication, Arts and Culture
    Minister: Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim
    Deputy: Datuk Joseph Salang Gandum
    Deputy: Senator Heng Seai Kie

    Energy, Green Technology and Water
    Minister: Datuk Peter Chin Fah Kui
    Deputy: Noriah Kasnon

    Rural and Regional Development
    Minister: Datuk Seri Shafie Apdal
    Deputy: Datuk Hassan Malek
    Deputy: Datuk Joseph Entulu Belaun

    Higher Education
    Minister: Datuk Seri Mohd Khaled Nordin
    Deputy: Datuk Dr Hou Kok Chung
    Deputy: Datuk Saifuddin Abdullah

    International Trade and Industry
    Minister: Datuk Mustapa Mohamad
    Deputy: Datuk Mukhriz bin Tun Dr Mahathir
    Deputy: Datuk Jacob Dungau Sagan

    Science, Technology and Innovation
    Minister: Datuk Dr Maximus Ongkili
    Deputy: Encik Fadillah Yusof

    Natural resources and Environment
    Minister: Datuk Douglas Unggah Embas
    Deputy: Tan Sri Joseph Kurup

    Tourism
    Minister: Datuk Ng Yen Yen
    Deputy: Datuk Sulaiman Abdul Rahman Abdul Taib

    Agriculture and Agro-Based Industries
    Minister: Datuk Noh Omar
    Deputy: Datuk Johari Baharum
    Deputy: Datuk Rohani Abdul Karim

    Defence
    Minister: Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi
    Deputy: Datuk Dr Abdul Latiff Ahmad

    Works
    Minister: Datuk Shaziman Abu Mansor
    Deputy: Datuk Yong Khoon Seng

    Health
    Minister: Datuk Liow Tiong Lai
    Deputy: Datuk Rosnah Rashid Shilin

    Youth and Sports
    Minister: Datuk Ahmad Shabery Cheek
    Deputy: Datuk Razali Ibrahim
    Deputy: Encik Wee Jeck Seng

    Human Resources
    Minister: Datuk Dr. S. Subramaniam
    Deputy: Datuk Maznah Mazlan (Senator)

    Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs
    Minister: Datuk Ismail Sabri Yaakob
    Deputy: Datuk Tan Lian Hoe

    Housing and Local Government
    Minister: Datuk Kong Cho Ha
    Deputy: Datuk Lajim Ukin

    Women’s Development, Family and Community
    Minister: Senator Datuk Shahrizat Jalil
    Deputy: Datuk Paduka Chew Mei Fun

    Foreign
    Minister: Datuk Anifah Aman
    Deputy: Senator A. Kohilan Pillay
    Deputy: Datuk Lee Chee Leong

    Federal Territories
    Minister: Datuk Raja Nong Chik Raja Zainal Abidin
    Deputy: Datuk M. Saravanan

  14. #14 by shah pinang on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:04 pm

    # cintanegara :

    Aih cintan, i think you are the one who’s trying your stupid best to divert the attention of the readers here from the significance of today’s court ruling. You failed miserably of course. This IS what we called “Menepuk air di dulang, terpercik muka sendiri”.

    At least ex Penang deputy had the guts to resign compared to some Rusted UMNO CM in Malacca. And this IS what we called “Cakap tak serupa bikin”.

    Aih cintan pi bercintalah puas2 dengan hang punya UMNO/BN. Unless you can backup your arguments,please do not waste your time observing the 70 (wow I didn’t know that) categories/arrangements searching for the word nepotism on YB Lim’s blog. It’s rather sad. Are you married or don’t you have a girlfriend or something??

    Death for Azilah/Sirul- as pulau sibu pointed out, the actual/VIP fugitive(s) who are still at large / unpunished, will want them to be hanged before they can ‘clean out the closet’. But they are very mistaken. It won’t go away. The dead will come back to haunt them. Absolute truth will prevail as NO man is above the law.

    We the rakyat must play our part by voting in Pakatan in the next election and allow the remaining few good men to uphold the sanctity of the law in this country. For now, VIP fugitives, “sleep tight, don’t let the bed bugs bite”.
    ?

  15. #15 by Bobster on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:11 pm

    After stirring and stirring trying to confuse the general public, finally they, the High Court has made the decision to sentence 2 to death. So on the scoreboard 3 deaths because of military deal gone haywire.

    Unfortunately there are still so MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS!

    i. How about Bala declaration? Not considered by High Court?
    ii. Who is incharged of C4 in the Military Camp? So far nobody accountable for stolen C4 from the Military Camp. Formal Defence Minister ie Najib tun Razak shall be answerable to the nation since no one from the camp claimed responsible.
    iii. Immigration records of Altantuya and cousin all lost. Immigration Department is answerable to the public what happen to their computer system, failure which formal Home Minister ie Sai Hamid shall be answerable.
    iv. Rakyat Malaysia have NOT HEAR a single word from Azilah and Sirul why they want to kill or who instruct them to kill. The only word they left us is they are the SCAPEGOATS! So who is/are the mastermind/s???
    ..
    ..
    ..
    ..

    BIG QUESTION MARK still hanging in the COURT when Shah Alam High Court decided on death sentence.

    MANA ADA JUSTICE IN THIS NATION?! Mastermind never get caught.

    JUDICIARY CRISIS getting more and more insane! ABSURD! No words to decribe judiciary of the nation. Tons of RUBBISH!

  16. #16 by monsterball on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:24 pm

    ggggggrrrrrrr Koh Tsu Khoon minister again and Mamak son….deputy minister.
    Signs of desperado needing advices from Mamak.
    UMNO can never survive without being a hypocrite and racialist party.
    So…come on in..Gerakan…MCA and MIC.
    It is not for Malaysians. It is for race and religion……to divide and rule…on going …no change.

  17. #17 by -ec- on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:30 pm

    I would think that the 2 murders will not die, in the end. the Mat Mongol could:

    1st, pass the DNA Identification bill, use it to reject the earlier DNA evidence or fabricate new DNA ‘evidence’.

    2nd, pass the Witness Protection Bill, turn the 2 cops into witnesses and erase and replace new identities for them.

    3rd, sack some judges to scapegoat the decisions.

    4th, delete the immigration records of them and their families, and send them overseas.

    5th, to reward them and in order the paid $ not detected by overseas immigration (apparently Australia will not be a ‘good’ destination to go hiding), the newly purchased submarine will be deployed to send them off to Panama.

    then, they live happily ever after…

  18. #18 by -ec- on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:35 pm

    only the dead will not expose the secret. so they must die.

    …then, the 2 cops and their families would disappear in Panama without reason.

  19. #19 by Tonberry on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:36 pm

    sheriff singh Says:
    Perak : BN 31 PR 28

    for the moment, Zambry & the 6 illegal excos are still out of the assembly..

  20. #20 by Sunny on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:37 pm

    i_love_malaysia says”
    “These two stupid guys thought that they will not die and get new identity, but too bad that they will be hanged …”

    This ending is definitely more likely and realistic. Those dummies must have been given false hope by allowing their face to be covered. In the end, all those that become a liability must be executed so the big boss can sleep better at night. The story is getting more interesting by the day.

  21. #21 by Bobster on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:39 pm

    As sheriff singh pointed out, until today even when found guilty, those 2 continue to hide their faces outside the court.

    Anything also boleh lah in this boleh land.

    Pretend to get hanged and ‘die’ then come out alive as free men with cash in bank. No one going to recongnise you. Migrate and disappear like what Bala did and happily ever after.

    Can lah, Bala can do that, so does Eli boy friend, so did C4 from military camp, so did lost records from immigration dept.

    Everything boleh in this boleh lah! Pui.

  22. #22 by computation on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:41 pm

    “As sheriff singh pointed out, until today even when found guilty, those 2 continue to hide their faces outside the court. ”

    but their families can be seen in court.
    trace the families and you get can get a good
    idea of the ones being charged. use your
    brains lah.

  23. #23 by -ec- on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:43 pm

    because the secret cannot be exposed and the ‘witnesses’ must die, TV series provide that:

    1) Employ a bomoh to cast a spell so that the 2 cops vanish in their prison cells
    2) Employ a prison ‘tai khor’ to beat them in the prison.
    3) Employ the officer that ‘did’ Kugan, copy the same procedures.

  24. #24 by computation on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:43 pm

    still waiting for anwars big announcement.
    come on man wtf alsways talking no action.
    PR are you sure you want anwar to lead.
    what is so fantastic about him man.
    monsterball perhaps you can share about
    anwars fantastic achievements.
    what the hell did he do for the people
    whilst he was riding high in umno??
    i am extremely skecptical about anwar.
    frankly i just don’t trust his face.

  25. #25 by monsterball on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 5:45 pm

    I have a dream!!!…Suddenly may convert to life sentences and after 13th GE…if UMNO wins….will be pardoned.
    The wonders of UMNO never ceased to amazed me.

  26. #26 by ekans on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 6:02 pm

    On 9/4/09 at 16:59.56, cintanegara said:

    Dear Ekans…..I beg to differ…A father-son relationship is far closer than relationship between cousins…

    Dear cintanegara,
    Of course, a father & a son should be closer than two cousins, but the definition of ‘nepotism’ also covers relatives, which is of course still relevant to cousins, and sometimes cousins can also be as close as siblings…

    On 9/4/09 at 16:59.56, cintanegara said:
    How sure are we that the father wont interfere in the decision making process of the state government led by his son??

    Dear cintanegara,
    I think you should direct this question to your hero, the doctor, because you may have noticed that his son has just been appointed to what you had described as that “fair and just to all” cabinet, not that long after the doctor has returned to that dominant party…

  27. #27 by taiking on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 6:31 pm

    Look I dont get it. A police officer would have investigated hundreds if not thousands of cases. Its his job for god’s sake. And by the n th case he would have acquired the professional attitude to deal with every case on the facts in a clinical and impersonal manner. The mongolian woman’s case is no different and I am sure the two officers ought to be able to handle it in the exact same way. There are absolutely no reasons for them to get entangled – to go beyond the scope of their duties – with the case by killing the woman and then disintegrating her body. There are simply no reasons for doing such a thing. It just does not make sense. And can they blame the public for letting unsubstantiated rumours float and swirl about. No. Look Baginda Razak is now a free man. He was let loose by the court without being called to give evidence in defence at all. This can only happen if the prosecution could not produce enough prima facie evidence in court against him. And yet, in the same case, the prosecution could satisfy the court beyond all reasonable doubt with available evidence that the two officers are guilty as charged. Yes of course the charge against Baginda is not the same as that against the two officers. But arent their respective charge closely related in that they are about the murder of a woman? And if they are related how is it possible that the police could do a wonderful job of nailing two and somehow another accused could get away. It wold be different if Baginda was called to give evidence in defence and the judge ruled on his evidence that the prosecution had not proven their case against him. Here baginda was not even required to give evidence.

  28. #28 by ctc537 on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 6:32 pm

    Poor Altantuya, only you can tell everybody why you were murdered. But a dead person doesn’t talk

  29. #29 by ekans on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 6:35 pm

    On 9 April 2009 at 17:11.13, Bobster said:
    ii. Who is incharged of C4 in the Military Camp? So far nobody accountable for stolen C4 from the Military Camp. Formal Defence Minister ie Najib tun Razak shall be answerable to the nation since no one from the camp claimed responsible.

    Given the supposedly strict control over the supply & distribution of C4 plastic explosives, it’s no surprise that the party that was responsible for its illegal use in this crime could be the same as the party responsible for sending Karpal live ammunition together with those death threat letters, furthermore under the very noses of supposedly vigilant Pos Malaysia staff.

  30. #30 by kevchua on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 6:44 pm

    When the verdict was read, one of them showed emotion while the other smiled (based on the newspaper report). A smile is not a sign of guilt – it could well be a facade of something more horrifying. The whole judgement could’ve been staged – dramatised to make it look convincing. Come on, the public is not stupid. Look at all the unanswered questions. Even a kid would ask, “Why did the soldiers kill a foreigner?” – how r u gonna answer that? And they blew her to PIECES!!

    Yup, I believe it’s a drama, and the two cops and the real killers will have a happy ending with their families.

    Sigh, hope God would punish those soon.

  31. #31 by ekans on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 6:53 pm

    On 9/4/09 at 18:31.22, taiking said:

    There are absolutely no reasons for them to get entangled – to go beyond the scope of their duties – with the case by killing the woman and then disintegrating her body. There are simply no reasons for doing such a thing. It just does not make sense. And can they blame the public for letting unsubstantiated rumours float and swirl about.

    The thing about this case is that the less sense it makes, the existence of a conspiracy behind it becomes more & more plausible…

  32. #32 by ReformMalaysia on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 7:06 pm

    “The question that is inevitably asked is who could be behind the two Bukit Aman Special Action Squad (UTK) cops’ C4 murder of Altantuya.”

    Normally when a person murder another person, his/her act is driven by either a motive or incentive.

    A murderer with a motive normally done by a person who know and the victim.

    A murder committed by someone who do not know the victim or do not have motive to murder the victim, is normally driven by incentive.

    Talking about incentive -it can be robbery or ‘hired to kill’ .

    In Altantunya case, both policemen do not know the victim -thus a motive is ruled out.

    Robbery, is too ruled out because Altantunya do not bring much cash or valuables.

    And , murdering someone is definitely not in a policeman’s job description!

    So , it is narrowed down to murdering driven by incentive….

    So what was the incentive that is big enough to lure the murderer to commit the crime? And who is the incentive-giver?

    Or who give order to the low-rank policemen to perform a duty outside the normal duties? Were they warned that they have to carry out that order at their own risk?

    These mysteries remain unanswered …

    Sorry.. no Sherlock Homes in the police department in Malaysia….

    or

    ‘Sherlock Homes’ can be made ‘disappeared’ if he do the investigation on this case..?

  33. #33 by -ec- on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 7:56 pm

    The 2 cops should be guilty committed manslaughter.

    To compared with criminal murder, the offense of manslaughter is considered as lesser criminal culpability, with the absence of malice aforethought.

    So, where is the murderer (killing with malice/intent)?

  34. #34 by James on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 9:25 pm

    Aiyah you people really too much lah.

    The Hon. PM already sworn on the Koran that he is innocent. Still want to accuse him ah. Come on give him chance lah. Now he can have untold riches and absolute power let him enjoy. You poor guys feel jealous then join BN and gang sure can make money one.

  35. #35 by c730427 on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 9:35 pm

    Why are the two faces covered and hidden from the public!!! How do we know that the criminals are real?????? Maybe they already vacation in Bahamas and the other one in Cape Town.

  36. #36 by Jamesy on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 10:12 pm

    If we were to interpret the motive of the killing of Altantuya by the the two policemen, it seems to suggest that Altantuya must have provoked the two policemen about something with so much explosive anger and unforgivable hatred that it is NOT NORMAL for a reasonable person NOT TO USED the highly lethal C4 explosives to destroy her into pieces.

    But this is not the case here.

  37. #37 by ktteokt on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 10:37 pm

    How can you just sentence two accomplices to death when the mastermind is still at large? These two guys are obviously pawns carrying out the dirty work, so what happened to the true culprit? By hanging these two accomplices, the matter is deemed close because all leads to the mastermind would then be broken!

  38. #38 by ringthetill on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:45 pm

    Now that they are found guilty, will they be brave enough to show their faces. What say the authorities?

  39. #39 by cemerlang on Friday, 10 April 2009 - 12:13 am

    Sometimes the PDRM and all its’ branches, special branch, CID, whatever you call it, have to be pitied especially those officers carrying out orders are not allowed to question these orders. So faithful is their call of duty until they have to pay for other’s crimes. Tegas but not tegas enough. Adil but not adil enough. In times like this, it will be good if Genghiz Khan were to appear and take down the real culprit himself. Only God knows who the real culprit is and only God knows when He will deal with this real culprit.

  40. #40 by Onlooker Politics on Friday, 10 April 2009 - 12:48 am

    Home
    Minister: Datuk Seri Hishamuddin Hussein
    Deputy: Datuk Wira Abu Seman Yusop
    Deputy: Encik Jelaing Mersat

    Do you notice that Hishammuddin has been appointed by Najib as the Minister of Home Affairs, who not only oversees the Police Force and Immigration Department but more importantly who also manages Jabatan Penjara Malaysia (Jail Office of Malaysia).

    The next critical step after the two convicted murderers have exploited all legal appeal channel but failed will be to ensure that the two murderers be handled properly by a trustworthy minister.

    As a close cousin to Najib, Hishammuddin is of course the best trustworthy minister to assume the final secret duty in Sungai Buloh Jail.

    Do you also notice that this time there is no one deputy home minister coming from MCA? Surprised? This was already expected by many well informed people right even before Najib had announced his new list of cabinet members. Why should Najib allow an MCA man to hold a key post in the Ministry of Home Affairs in consideration of some MCA leaders were having a big mouth to disclose some secrets to the public about Altantuya case during the criminal investigation stage before the murderers were being charged in court?

  41. #41 by passerby on Friday, 10 April 2009 - 3:40 am

    As far as the public is concerned, the actual killer or killers are still not punished. We know who the suspects are and as long as they are not fully investigated by independent authorities, the people will never let this murder case closed.

    Azilah Hadri and Corporal Sirul Azhar Umar are just some pawns under instructions to kill and dispose of the body. They don’t know Altantuya and since they have no dealing with her, they have no reason to kill her unless they are being instructed to.

    Let keep this issue alive until the true killer(s) are duly punished.

  42. #42 by pulau_sibu on Friday, 10 April 2009 - 7:18 am

    Some one must have told the two that they will not die toward the end. They will be freed.

    The fact is the person mastermind this killing hoped that the two will be hagded quickly before they will reveal anything about the truth.

  43. #43 by taiking on Friday, 10 April 2009 - 9:17 am

    Regarding Onlooker’s blog entry above I say this to kerismudin:

    “Oi kerismudin. I wouldnt want to be in your position. No. Not me.”

  44. #44 by kevchua on Friday, 10 April 2009 - 2:13 pm

    Still too many Portfolios & Ministers. Here’s my suggestion:

    Ministers in the Prime Minister’s Department
    (Justice)
    (Economic Planning Unit)
    - 1 minister, 2 deputies

    Finance
    - 1 minister, 1 deputy

    Education (incl. Higher Education)
    - 1 minister, 1 deputy

    Transport
    - 1 minister, 1 deputy

    Entrepreneurship, Agriculture and Commodities
    - 1 minister, 1 deputy

    Internal & Foreign Affairs
    - 1 minister, 2 deputies

    Information, Tourism & Culture
    - 1 minister, 2 deputies

    Energy, Utility & Environment
    - 1 minister, 1 deputy

    Science, Technology and Innovation
    - 1 minister, 1 deputy

    Defence
    - 1 minister, 1 deputy

    Works
    - 1 minister, 1 deputy

    Health, Youth Development and Sports
    - 1 minister, 2 deputy

    Human Resources
    - 1 minister, 2 deputies

    Global Trade and Consumer Affairs
    - 1 minister, 2 deputies

    Housing and Local Government
    - 1 minister, 1 deputy

    Women’s Development, Family and Community
    - 1 minister, 1 deputy

    Total: 16 portfolios, 38 ministers & deputies :) – this would be cool. Saves money on salaries and allowances.

  45. #45 by bennylohstocks on Friday, 10 April 2009 - 9:37 pm

  46. #46 by ablastine on Friday, 10 April 2009 - 10:39 pm

    Obviously the reason why the two convicted murderers did not tell who gave them the instruction to carry out the murder was that they believe they will not be the ones dying at the gallows despite being convicted. They have worked it all out haven’t they. If not why would they bother to cover their faces. They were obviously promised by higher authorities that they will be substituted by some death rows prisoners during their execution. Whether or not that becomes a reality for them is not important as long as they believe this is so and lots of money has been promised to them and their families on their ‘escape’. The only way to make them tell all is to make them aware that exchange of prisoner for execution is not possible as there will be independent public and opposition witnesses during their execution and that they will be close scrutiny of their relatives bank accounts after their execution. As a last ditch attempt to save their neck or soul they may just tell us who gave them the orders. But as far as the public is concern we already know who the culprits are.

  47. #47 by frankyapp on Saturday, 11 April 2009 - 2:28 am

    Those who lie for personal gain do not stick together very long especially hardship decreases the benefit.Hence you guys can expect the truth pretty soon.Reference to the Altantunya case.

  48. #48 by anna brella on Saturday, 11 April 2009 - 4:55 am

    What are Senators from the Dewan Negara (second and separate House of Malaysian Parliament) doing inside the UMNO/BN Executive Government Cabinet?

    Isn’t the Dewan Negara meant to be separate in powers and duties and so to remain independent of the Dewan Rakyat in order to function as a check and balance of the Dewan Rakyat’s (which includes the Executive and Opposition members MPs) legislative activities?

    So, aren’t these appointments of Senators into the Executive’s Cabinet overriding one of the democratic governance system’s fundamental checks and balances which was originally designed into the system as a protective control mechanism?

    And as Tun Mohamed Suffian Mohamed Hashim, the Lord President of the Supreme Court from 1974-1982 himself stated, aren’t such highly questionable amendments by UMNO/BN “contrary to the spirit of the original constitution which established the Senate specially as a body to protect in the federal Parliament, state interests against federal encroachments”?

    “Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.

  49. #49 by OrangRojak on Saturday, 11 April 2009 - 10:54 pm

    Who is entitled to attend deliveries of the death sentence in Malaysia? Is there any possibility the executions of the two policemen can be witnessed by someone relatively trustworthy?

  50. #50 by Thinking Two on Monday, 13 April 2009 - 11:00 am

    1. In any murder case, the main point need to be established is MOTIVE. Any motive in this case?

    2. YB Lim, please get the DNA of these two so called murderer for verification after execution was held.

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