Apology to Perak Sultan and Regent – No offence intended

My three-paragraph statement at 7 pm last night that the DAP Central Executive Committee emergency meeting on 9th March had not given approval for a PAS Mentri Besar to head a Perak coalition state government was not made out of disrespect to the Perak Sultan and Regent both whom I have always held in the highest regard and I apologise for any offence caused. The statement was on the party position at the time.

There have been further discussions and developments on the matter in the hours after the statement. Announcements of the latest position will be made.

  1. #1 by Bobster on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:04 am

    YB LKS,

    Please listen to the rakyat. We are looking forward for formation of Barisan Rakyat after the 12th General Election. Whether PAS/PKR/DAP became MB of Perak is of no importance as Perak Sultan and Raja Muda with all respect and wisdom have shown fairness to all rakyat.

    Please ensure Barisan Rakyat stand strong thru storm and sunshine as we rakyat have given mandate to Barisan Rakyat and not DAP nor PAS nor PKR.

    This is from a Chinese have more than 50 rockets behind his back and we will ensure no matter what circumstances Barisan Rakyat will stand. Dont ever give the enemies a chance to destroy the coalition. Please uncle for the rakyat sake.

  2. #2 by jgerard on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:09 am

    Great news! Let’s work together for the betterment of all Malaysians. Press on Barisan Rakyat.

  3. #3 by IloveMalaysiaToo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:10 am

    Dear Lim,

    The current happenings in Perak and Selangor had shown very clearly
    that malaysian Malaysia is still a dream and may remain so for as long time to come
    but I do believe that if DAP can focus on getting “fairness, transparency,
    accountability and incorruptible” governance in place then any racial issues will
    automatically fall apart as it is fundamentally against fairness.

    So please use your mandate from the people as a tool for the better of all malaysian
    and lets begin it in Penang and Perak.


  4. #4 by alancheah on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:10 am

    Please attend the swearing-in ceremony…..

  5. #5 by alexx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:13 am

    Uncle Lim,

    Please go(although I dun really feel nice to have a PAS MB)!!!

    But all and the all…. we need to show some RESPECT before we can ask Malay-Muslim to respect us as well….

    Without respect we just cant have fair discussion and work together, and we will still just form another barisan depending on races… cos Malay will turn back for not support DAP and chinese not willing to accept PAS…And Opposition-coalition will only be able to lead 4 yrs only….

    Yet forever we cant be successful in the process to work hard together and form Malaysian Malaysia!!!

  6. #6 by pulau_sibu on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:14 am

    The Sultan did not make a very wise decision. In the democratic system, the majority is the winner. My thought was DAP would take control as MB. It may be difficult for the three parties to announce so, but if Sultan picks it, the people would not say anything. Now the sultan made a different choice. Chaos started….

    To reiterate my suggestion. Those in the state government, no matter they are from DAP, PAS or PKR, please detach yourselves from a particular party.

    Why Anwar did not mention anything?

    The sultan is in favor of PAS! UMNO would be in trouble, for sure.

    The Malay monarchy has to adopt to changes as well, consideration above the race, religion and sex.

    Last point. What kind of multimedia corridor is boleh????? All the major websites became tak-boleh after the election. Is this kind of situation justified for country with multi-media corridor?

  7. #7 by Ade on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:14 am

    YB LKS…

    I do hope you think before you act everytime. Shocking decision like this really leaves us the rakyat shattering. This is not how we envisioned a full fledged Barisan Rakyat to work….you guys need to work together..PLEASE work together…you always talk about ONE MALAYSIA…and now this! What are you trying to do…crossing over to BN?

  8. #8 by low2215 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:14 am

    Thanks you for reversing your decision. It takes a courage to do that .
    Thanks you once again !!

  9. #9 by Demon on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:14 am

    This is more like it.Countered greed,anger and ignorance with generousity,compassion and wisdom.

  10. #10 by bentoh on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:15 am

    Dear YB LKS,

    It must be a real hard time for you over the last 12 hours… but I do hope this issue is now resting on the ground… and we’ve got to move forward, for a long 4 years…

    Much damage had been done, I hope DAP learns how to undo the damage, and also to formulate a more systematic way to deal with tons of issues… :)

    And I seriously hope DAP could dig more into the partnership with the other opposition party… :)

    Your supporter,

  11. #11 by 3pooiwan on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:16 am


    u can see how many people are against your idea …..

  12. #12 by optimuz on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:16 am


    I must say I’m very disappointed with all this nonsense. At a time where discretion should have been exercised, you have displayed an appalling lack of it.

    Why all this fuss?? You can’t trust PAS?? Why? Malaysians from all walks of life trusted you guys, but now you seem to have betrayed it.

    Is this all about power?? Penang not enough? Come on! You just gave BN all the ammo it needs to send shivers down the spine of the fence sitters!

    Sigh! I’m beginning to think that there’s no difference to all of you..

    Unfortunately, damage done..no matter what remedies you take henceforth…

  13. #13 by low2215 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:18 am

    and one more thing .. DO NOT LISTEN TO WHAT MCA and GERAKAN SAYS IN THE PRESS .. they are just trying to create more chaos ..
    i support your decison on attending the ceremony.

  14. #14 by nahoda on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:18 am

    Uncle Lim, you are back on track again. No doubt is PAS MB, so what….you party still the main. Work for the people and prove to be end that BR is much much more better. Everyone wanna to see a total change in GE-13.

    DAP, PKR or PAS i’ll vote for them.

  15. #15 by 9to5 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:19 am

    Thank you Kit. This is a wise decision and it is you to be praised for “never too stubborn to learn from a life lesson from the rakyat” – not Badawi.

    You already control a majority in the coalition and the the exco and therefore it is your party which makes the decision behind the MB; this MB thing is just a minor hiccup. Let the MB carry out the malay religious custom which you are unable to do.

    The longer term picture is to stabilise the coalition and win the next 13th GE.

  16. #16 by kolchyi on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:20 am

    PAS would be a ideal&good ruler maker.
    DAP, a sraight and fast implementation mesin
    PKR, carry out fair and balance the above honourable human wish

    U 3 musketeer have a big job 2 make over MALAYSIA


  17. #17 by kolchyi on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:20 am

    PAS would be a ideal&good rule maker.
    DAP, a sraight and fast implementation mesin
    PKR, carry out fair and balance the above honourable human wish

    U 3 musketeer have a big job 2 make over MALAYSIA


  18. #18 by devilonpois on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:21 am

    Cheers….at least we have Barisan Rakyat again…….we have more works to do for the 5 states governments….to proof that they are liberal and more effective/efficient than previous states goverments…
    and with this i am sure you will gain more trusts……..let the new Malaysian lead Malaysia …….

  19. #19 by lorkh on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:22 am

    Dear YB Lim,

    Thanks a lot for your wise decision. Stay tough! Us people are behind you! Thank you.


  20. #20 by phinixx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:24 am

    over a night,youre losing thousands of vote due to your unwise statement before.now,repairing result is not as good as before.youre losing the most importance thing-OUR TRUST

  21. #21 by unsaid on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:25 am

    I was one of the heavier critics on your decision to call for DAP Assemblymen to not attend the Ceremony. Eventhough the damage have been done, but nonetheless, it takes a real man to stand up to one’s fault, and places priority of his people above one’s own. Only then will one truly be serving the people from its heart. All the best YB, must have been rough time you’re going through. I believe the situation will be salvaged and BN wont have much to capitalize on this untoward incident.

    Long Live Barisan Rakyat, Long Live Malaysian Malaysia

  22. #22 by jt84 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:25 am

    Uncle Kit Siang,

    This is my first message on your blog. I am truly honoured when I was able to meet you at the Ceramah in Serdang on 25th February! I want to Congratulate on the success of DAP in the 12th General Election! You are truly a leader for all Malaysians! I have been reading your blog often since three weeks ago. I am quite upset with some of the replies on your previous post but nevertheless you’re a very generous and open-minded person as till the point of even allow such replies to be posted on your blog. I am truly encouraged by your humility.

    Personally, I do not mind a PAS MB in Perak if that it what the Sultan of Perak has decided as DAP Leaders have addressed the issue clearly to the supporters of DAP already. Therefore, I do not see any reason for supporters who thinks otherswise.

    You’re a person with strong convictions on your principles and I applaud you for that! I hope that you and your colleagues at CEC will make the best decision to make a strong DAP-PKR-PAS Coalition Government in the three state governments as the Rakyat is ready for CHANGE IN MALAYSIA!

    To others, let us not forget on how much Uncle Lim Kit Siang has sacrificed for us and the country! When this issue of the MB of Perak is resolved, let us hope that Uncle Lim Kit Siang to be awarded an official title, let is be Tan Sri’ or Tun’ for his service to Malaysia eventhough I am sure Uncle Lim himself does not need such title and award!

    Uncle Lim! You’re always a Hero to all Malaysians in hearts and souls! Take care and have a good rest when all the three DAP-PKR-PAS state goverments are properly established.

    May God provide His abundant grace and wisdom to all DAP leaders including PKR and PAS leaders!


  23. #23 by Chong Zhemin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:26 am

    Uncle kit,

    I felt so relief with your apology. I found myself lack of arguments when my friends attack your decision not to attend the wear in ceremony.

    No matter what your final decision is. i will always stand by you. I trust you have enough wisdom to overcome this. I have given it a thought how to reconcile the differences between dap and pas.

    1. make PAS issue a statement to give up their ambition to build an islamic state in perak.
    2. should PAS starts any islamisation process, DAP shall pullout from the coalition unconditionally.
    3. Let the PAS candidate crossover to PKR.

    However, I personally feel that 5 years is enough for the perakians to gauge the performance of a PAS MB. If PAS manage to rule better than BN, the oppositions are hopeful to take on the federal government next rouund. It’s worth a gamble!

  24. #24 by nice_people on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:29 am

    i’m malay/muslim people but i’m voting for DAP in this election.Just let work together, respect each other. we can go through it.

  25. #25 by cheong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:29 am

    Good! Thank you uncle Kit for the timely reversal of your earlier decision. Let good sense prevail.

    BTW I’ve visited most of the popular blogs (including this) and noticed all readers unanimously against the boycott.

  26. #26 by pulau_sibu on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:29 am

    Uncle Lim probably did not expect such a overwhelming support of people toward a PAS MB. No, not a PAS MB, but the coalition MB! He would expect we blast at him, saying DAP has no guts, etc., but we blasted him for a different matter.

    Remember that the Malays voted for DAP as well, not because of DAP but because of coalition.

    Now with our support of the MB, it is easier for Uncle Lim to handle this business with PAS.

    ok. Uncle Lim is not going to be just the DAP leader, but also the coalition leader.

    I am sick of reading news about samy or MCA. Can the newspapers stop reporting those meaningless news?

  27. #27 by kafkalee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:31 am

    Dear KS,
    good to hear your latest statement.
    probably you should focus more on Deputy MB of Selangor now. If Perak allows 2 Deputy MB, why not Selangor?

  28. #28 by kafkalee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:32 am

    Dear KS,
    good to hear your latest statement.
    probably you should focus more on Deputy MB of Selangor now. If Perak allows non-Malay Deputy MB, why not Selangor?

  29. #29 by tpkoh on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:32 am

    I am glad to hear that you have reversed your decision, and decided to attend the ceremony now. It is not easy, but I am glad that DAP is really listening to people voices – we need a government that listen to their people, who love their people and work for their people. Love Live! and God bless

  30. #30 by mrpenang on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:34 am

    Dear Uncle Lim,

    You are a true man. LKS is the best.

    Fight for the justice and admit for the mistake.


  31. #31 by Utopia on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:34 am

    Well, everyone makes mistake. Noone is perfect. The best one could do is to learn from his mistake and not to it again. In this case, I think DAP has done a good job here!

    Cmon guys, don’t be so harsh. At least now DAP has apologized and moved on. We should also accept this apology.

  32. #32 by Y1 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:35 am

    I am glad that DAP is still open to the new Malaysian Scenario. We have hoped beyond hope that Malaysia will be a country free from racial and religious politics. This recent new dawn surprised many of us old timers and has given us new hope. It has given all of us a window of opportunity to make Malaysia into the potential it has.

    Let’s give the new hope as desired by so many Malaysians a chance. Work with PAS for this time in Perak. I too am wary and worried of how PAS might turn out but I prefer to overcome my fear with faith, hope and love. Let all Malaysians have faith, hope and love again.

  33. #33 by I Malaysian on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:35 am

    I am relieved with your statement that was followed by Perak DAP leadership. YB, once again the fellow Malaysians have proven that they will take anyone including (with all due respect) you when something is overlooked or ignored that will affect the general interest of this nation. Can all of us see how we have united as one nation?


    AND to Pak Lah Please don’t warn our CM Lim Guan Eng. He is doing the best for all Malaysians. We will be behind Lim as long as he works for all.

  34. #34 by penang308 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:36 am

    Thank you, thank you, thank you Kit Siang!

    What a relieve!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  35. #35 by danchungs on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:37 am

    YB Lks i am so dissapointed with CEC decision not to mandate the appointment of the mb of perak.As say and do if your chairman of perak consent if any of the 3 coalation party is choosen they will accept whatsoever the decision is.But now seem like flip flop on pak lah case.I think so you should resign and stay away from the politic seem you been talking other please feel what the rakyat felt about you now.Please RESIGN

  36. #36 by nahoda on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:37 am

    MCA & Gerakan is putting oil in the fire…..they never understand what the people want. That young ka ting is making stupid statement again. He is trying to gain interest and publicity…old fashion mind thinker….throw him out forever. Election already over he should not interfere BR matter.

    Uncle Lim, I support your move. Think of the people future, Malaysian Malaysia rule by BR. A new landscape for Malaysian.

  37. #37 by dap-for-pj on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:37 am

    I have all my 30years of my voting life lookup to Uncle Kit as my inspiration. His earlier statement is out of his concerns that we as voting rakyat has given the mandate to DAP and not PAS to lead which I must say a lot of us still a bit ‘uncomfortable’. Uncle Kit has issue his statement out of this concern on behalf of us and we should appreciate what he has done. This is to Uncle Kit, ….we understand your earlier statement is bourne out of your concern that we rakyat may feel short changed. We want to let you know that I am from the Chinese community in PJ and are beyond race and religion when it comes to fight against corruption, nepotism and injustice. If En.Nizar is along this line of thinking and treats Malay, Chinese, Indians and minorities as equals, he has my blessing. Uncle Kit, give him a chance to prove me right and I want to say you still have my full support.

  38. #38 by Utopia on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:37 am


    Quote:”Lim apologises, DAP reps to attend the ceremony…”

  39. #39 by yog7948 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:38 am

    Hope all goes well..

    Deep in my heart, i’m sure all these will show -“Mohammad’s appointment went against the wishes of voters, especially non-Muslims” statement STUPID.. Uncle Lim gave Ong Ka Chuan the answer.

  40. #40 by pablopabla on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:38 am

    Dear YB,

    I am glad that you have come to your senses. However, I think a press statement is insufficient. The damage has already been done.

    Please seek an audience with the Perak royalty to personally apologise to the royalty. I think that would be better and a more humbling thing to do. To put it bluntly, you and DAP have a serious PR exercise to do to regain the confidence of the people notwithstanding the apology.

    We want to see a united BR working for the welfare of the ordinary people. We don’t look at positions but service. Lead and serve us well with a spirit of unity for the next 5 years irregardless of race or religion and we will return our votes.

  41. #41 by musyu99 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:39 am

    YB LKS,
    Dalam komen saya beberapa artikel yang lepas ada saya mengatakan pakatan DAP/PKR/PAS bukan sahaja perlu untuk menafikan 2/3 majoriti kepada BN. Malah apa yang kami mahu BN terus di lumpuhkan kerana kami sudah tidak percaya lagi kepada BN.

    Walaupun PKR/DAP/PAS berjaya mencapai hasrat menggagalkan 2/3 majoriti kepada BN namun kami juga berasa amat bangga apabila pakatan ini dapat merampas Kedah, P.Pinang, Perak dan Selangor. Satu bonus yang tidak diduga.

    Untuk makluman YB, saya berbangsa melayu yang sebelum ini penyokong kuat BN. Selepas 4 tahun kepimpinan Pak Lah, saya sekeluarga mula rasa jengkel dengan kelemahan kepimpinannya dan yang tidak pernah berpegang kepada kata-kata. Malah kami tidak menyokong Islam Hadhari walaupun sebagai kaki tangan kerajaan dipaksa untuk menyokong segala arahan kerajaan BN.

    Pada PRU12 ini, saya sekeluarga telah berpakat untuk tidak menyokong BN lagi dan kami percaya pakatan PKR/DAP/PAS akan dapat mengubah suasana politik negara. Apa lagi dengan slogan DAP: JOM UBAH! Kami yakin dan turut walaupun pada mulanya rasa sangsi dengan pakatan ini.

    Oleh kerana kami tinggal dikawasan Kinrara, saya sekeluarga telah pergi ke pejabat DAP untuk mendapatkan bendera, banner DAP untuk kami membantu berkempen secara tidak langsung. Kami kibarkan bendera DAP dikereta dan rumah kami hingga menjadi perhatian orang ramai kerana mereka hairan, saya seorang berbangsa melayu dan kaki tangan kerajaan menyokong pakatan DAP/PKR/PAS. Saya berasa bangga mengibarkan bendera/banner PAS dikereta dan rumah saya.

    Walaupun sumbangan kami kecil dari segi membantu berkempen untuk pakatan PKR/DAP/PAS. Kami lakukan dengan keikhlasan dan keyakinan bahawa pakatan ini boleh mengubah nasib Malaysia dengan lebih cemerlang lagi. Saya tidak mendaftar nama di pejabat DAP untuk bantu berkempen atau di lain-lain tempat parti pakatan. Bagi saya itu semua tidak penting tetapi yang lebih penting ialah kejayaan.

    Kepenatan saya membantu berkempen akhirnya berbalas dengan kemenangan besar pakatan dibeberapa buah negeri dan persekutuan. Pada saat itu saya sekeluarga dengan megah tunjuk pada jiran-jiran kejayaan pakatan ini. Kita semua bersatu untuk mencapai kejayaan. DAP tidak lagi mainkan sentimen bangsa, PAS tidak bangkitkan soal ugama dan PKR boleh diterima oleh semua, malah boleh dikatakan masyarakat boleh terima pakatan ini.

    Pada pagi ini apabila terbaca surat khabar tentang kemelut yang berlaku di Perak terutama kenyataan YB supaya ADUN DAP boikot majlis perlantikan MB Perak, hati kami begitu terguris dan amat sedih sekali. Sepatutnya YB perlu berfikir secara terbuka sebelum membuat sesuatu kenyataan terutama yang boleh menggugat kestabilan pakatan yang baru lahir ini. Pihak lawan sentiasa mencari peluang untuk merosakan pakatan yang mulia ini yang dibentuk atas aspirasi rakyat yang sedar dan insaf betapa perlunya kita hidup bermasyarakat.

    Tetapi dengan kenyataan maaf YB ini, saya sekeluarga berlinang air mata bukan sahaja YB sanggup mengaku silap dan memohon maaf kepada DYMM Sultan perak secara terbuka tetapi yang lebih berkesan lagi ialah untuk memenuhi aspirasi rakyat yang berbilang kaum.

    Saya sekeluarga sentiasa berdoa semoga YB dan lain-lain pucuk pimpinan parti pakatan PKR/DAP/PAS berada dalam petunjuk jalan yang lurus bagi membentuk satu bangsa Malaysia yang dinamik dan mengkagumkan.

    Terima kasih.

  42. #42 by tonton on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:39 am

    It’s time to change. The Menteri Besar must represent all rakyat and not a particullar race, party, religion or gender. As long as the MB is capable, clean, fair and listen to rakyat, then we will support.

    In future, we should look into let the rakyat to elect who should be the MB, regardless the race, religion, party or gender. Should have debate in public to show thier capability and vision and let rakyat decide.

  43. #43 by saviour on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:43 am

    good move uncle lim.. and we people don’t see any harm of having a PAS MB.. we vote for the coalition.. not for a specific party… i think this is the point where DAP should be more malaysian and work collaboratively with other parties (PKR/PAS)… i noted that there are quite a numbers of Malay voted for DAP and Chinese voted for PAS/PKR during the last election… people from different races are moving forward to be closer to each other… we should focus on overall matters, not individual ideology. Think wisely and act wisely. I really admire people who can talks to the crowd and keep his virtue… let’s live in harmony and peace…


  44. #44 by aansory on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:44 am

    Tahniah LKS.. sdr LKS akan dipandang lebih tinggi oleh orang melayu/islam dengan kenyataan maaf ini.. ini dapat menunjukkan kepada barisan pembangkang di Perak bahawa pemimpin tinggi juga mampu untuk meminta maaf kepada penyokongnya..

    PAS sudah menyatakan dari awal ketika kemenangan PKR/PAS/DAP bahawa kerajaan yang dibentuk di Perak adalah kerajaan PKR/PAS/DAP.. bukan kerajaan PAS jika MB dilantik dikalangannya.. anda semua boleh layari HarakahDaily untuk rujukan.

  45. #45 by kaki.ayam on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:44 am

    Thank you, uncle Lim. Thank you. Some people has been reading too much from your statement, saying that you are racist.
    A second reading of your previous statement shows that your concern is on the CM coming from DAP, PAS or Keadilan. Not based on race.
    It will help if you can reassure us that race is not important. Uncle Lim, you gave us hope, don’t crush it.

  46. #46 by BoycottLocalPapers on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:44 am




  47. #47 by jetaime.f on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:45 am

    Since Mr. Lim voiced out his disagreement for PAS elected MB to take office, which is not unreasonable, but given the people sees that the opposition should move as one which is one of the underlying factors of the whole shift in power, why aren’t there any non-Malays exco or deputy MB in Kelantan, Kedah, as well as Selangor even if DAP has not contested in the former states? It is a “one opposition” party that the people sees after all, No?

  48. #48 by HaiHiung on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:45 am

    Dear YB Lim,

    I can understand your party position. In a true Westminster Democracy spirit, the CM post should be given to your party in Perak. But you’ll have to be pragmatic, DAP is not as strong as you have been lead to believe. Don’t misconstrue the result of this election, the voters did not choose DAP or PKR or PAS, they were rejecting BN.

    Now, do get this right, you were given an opportunity to prove yourself because of the circumstances not because of your party strength. Boycotting the ceremony will be taken by the voters that DAP is showing sign of arrogance, and politically you don’t want that. Also, you should know this better than me, you (DAP/PKR/PAS) didn’t win enough seats in Perak to amend the constitution, so there’s really nothing you could do about the Perak Regent’s decision, accept it, after all you still want to form a Perak State government.

    Personally, I think there are a lot of good could arise from this, DAP is given a golden opportunity to show what you are fighting for, please do not let this opportunity go to waste.

  49. #49 by kanthanboy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:46 am

    “Good! Thank you uncle Kit for the timely reversal of your earlier decision. Let good sense prevail.” cheong

    “good to hear your latest statement.” Kafkalee
    Where do I find Kit’s latest statement about the reversal of DAP’s decision of rejecting MB from PAS? Please advise

  50. #50 by orangbiasa on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:46 am

    It is very clear that DAP still needs to discuss further and more announcement will be made !!! This is the spirit of DAP !!!

    However if eventually DAP accept it, I still support the decision, but just want to know the reason behind. I afraid DAP become another party that only know how to make compromises instead of fight for a fair society !!!

  51. #51 by ahluck on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:47 am

    what ever it is DAP need to be MB of perak. uncle kit don’t fall to all the sweet talks. why need to see sultan in the first place? to get DAP the MB. If Pas or KPR no need to see sultan.

    please! please! i beg have DAP be the MB

    if not you can’t for get all the support i have given to DAP in the past.

    you going to regret if pas is MB of perak.

    is there any way we can make take off agong and sultans?

  52. #52 by melurian on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:47 am

    Kit, I support your stance and principle against PAS. Yes, in order to re-elect that racist umno/bn back to perak, PKR+DAP+PAS must work together, this is fact. But never forget PAS for their ideology to have malaysia as islamic country, their name already spells out. however, nasi sudah jadi bubur, ppl say the sultan/raja muda got wisdom, and pas gets to become MB ? why PAS ? why waste a MB post for a puppet. just imagine if PAS is given autonomy to govern perak, what will be their first step? cancel all perak development ? lobby sunday becomes working day ? pathing kelantan influence to perak ? if pas is generous, they shouldn’t object vehemently dap as mb, they shouldn’t even nominate themselves since they already got 2 states, they should relent and agree with DAP to give way to PKR. why they so hunger for power ? is not DAP that racist or greedy, it is PAS here! and it is blessing they cannot do this in selangor!

  53. #53 by sochews on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:47 am

    YB, I’ve have the greatest respect for you as a leader, and as a man of character. The refusal to attend the ceremony, however, has really opened the door for the BN to paint the opposition as incapable of working together. I am glad for the reversal of your previous statement, but it’s my sincere hope the damage is not done. Unity between the coalition parties, for the sake of the rakyat, has to be the priority in these historical times.

  54. #54 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:47 am


    There you go kanthanboy! :)

  55. #55 by undecidedmoron on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:48 am

    Hi YB Kit, I guess after a long tiring week, every little thing that does not go the way it was initially planned can really get into our nerves.

    Like what Utopia says..’everyone makes mistakes”. but the diference is all eyes are on the DAP-PRR-PAS coalition states. every single tiny mistake is made into a national news by our Barisan Najis media.

    Please do not make hasty decision or hasty remarks over the blog or during PC.

    After all that is said… i still support you YB Kit.

  56. #56 by Pink Leo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:48 am

    Thank you for reconsidering your decision. Please… go to the swearing-in ceremony. Although I am shocked that PAS will become the MB of Perak, I still feel that we shouldn’t ‘boycott’ them. It’s a matter of respect and graciousness. Thank you.

  57. #57 by skyquest2000 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:49 am

    Its a shame now that DAP members are fighting for the Deputy MB post. Give to the most experinced and capable person. Forget about the your conies. Look like Au Yong is only a puppet. Comes on be a hero, forget your own benefits and really come out to serve people. We have donating money to DAP, we want to see they are paying back the people. Donate your salary, as some are now on double pay.

  58. #58 by chi chi leng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:49 am

    Dear Uncle Lim:

    I am glad that the LIGHT finally shines upon you.. Bravo! Only great leaders realizes their follies and apologies unashamedly. In this new era we all must live and work together as a team for the betterment of Malaysia. Keep up the good work and God Bless Our Nation. It is only the beginning of a long and strenous fight ahead of us but be assured we are behind you in your courageous fight for our nation and its citizens!!!! Syabas and thank you…

  59. #59 by sshark on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:50 am

    How can 1 be so naive? The mindset has been like that for 50yrs. How can it change over night over 1 election?

    I don’t care if “Ah Chong”, “Ahmad” or “Raju” becomes the MB as long as he serves everyone well, fair and get his job DONE.

    I am glad you are reconsidering your decision.

  60. #60 by RakyatAlex on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:50 am

    Good job YB!! Again, BN loves to make every politics into a race-based politics. Any opportunities for BN to attack would be done, as you can see in our local newspapers who are very much pro-BN papers. Sultan of Perak obviously did not elect based on rakyat’s majority wishes, but lets not allow that to deter our determination to make this Malaysia as one-race country. I suspect Sultan’s decision may have been in favour of BN, so that these racial issues would arise again.
    However, I’m sure DAP-PKR-PAS can sit down together and overcome differences and govern this country away from BN. No more race-based politics!!
    Another hope I have is to see some Malay joining DAP, and Chinese joining PAS so that we would have politics that is based on merits and achievements but not race. Once again, “Doesnt matter if the cat is black or white, as long as the cat catches the mouse!!”

  61. #61 by ET on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:50 am


    The RAKYAT has spoken, once again, judging from the contents from majority of the comments.

    Please, do not try, not even to think about building a dynasty within your family or your personal/close supporter. Use the mandate given to you to serve to the best interest of the RAKYAT. Use the best people you have and not side-lining non-main stream MP’s.

    Teng is one of the example, he should be the best candidate for deputy Selangor MD. If in-fighting continue even within DAP, what confidence are you giving us that BA will work?

    Jeff Ooi, Tony Pua and others, do not over shine or out do your bosses, you know what I mean, unless Kit and GE are willing to change.

    Thank you.

  62. #62 by malaysia4all on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:51 am

    all BN parties, hardcore opposition leaders, and hardcore supporters, pls respect sultan’s decision.

    my guess is that this round of politics tsunami is about malaysian’s malaysia, prove this a model, and everyone will find their fight more meaningful and respected.

    with major DAP+PKR in the government, PAS pls remember the BA government is for the ppl, be appreciate being involved in the historical moment, pls work hard with all and defy all challeges.

    i hope all malaysians can show their support and acknowledge the good works.

  63. #63 by papa_aqeef on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:51 am


    Terima kasih… We’r Malaysian…

  64. #64 by devilmaster on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:51 am

    Thank you , Uncle Kit. I always have my faith in you. You really did not disappoint us.

    DAP Gambateh!

  65. #65 by For future on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:51 am

    Dear Lim,

    I’m a Malay and I have taken much of my time to convince many Malay friends to vote for your party and they did. Whether they assisted DAP or not is a fact that can’t be contested today.

    When your Party objects to the New MB, my question is: Does DAP think that they love the people of Perak more than the Sultan? Does they think that they care for the people of Perak more than the Perak Sultan? Does they think they care about the wellbeing, welfare and prosperity of the people of Perak more than the Perak Sultan? Does DAP think the Perak Sulan is stupid and that DAP is the best to know who should lead Perak? Why does DAP say that it respects the consitution and works for the people and the Sultan and spits at the face of the Sultan; the ruler of Perak? So DAP cares for Perak’s wellbeing while the Sultan is its enemy? Ka?

    Do you know the Sultan is naive? Do you think the new MB is naive as to know what should be done? I’m hurt and I do know how I can recover but we need a detailed apology.

    BN: Pliz note that BN is dead. UMNO is dying and MCA and Gerekan were parties that used to exsist and they are no longer here. They are the past. If your fear that the MCA Star will character assasinate you and lambaste you always, remember what they did to Anwar? They literally lynched him but we the Malays voted for his party and DAP and PAS as he has suggested. If the MCA Star newspaper lynches you just like Anwar, it will only make you greater and more relevant. Remember the Chinese saying: A true gold doesn’t fear fire. Hope you read the mood of the nation and tread carefully.


  66. #66 by max2811 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:52 am

    I spoke to one of your DAP MPs last nite. I understand the problem was created by the lack of communication between Perak DAP and the CEC. The thing to do now is to make a wrong thing right. You need to attend the ceremony.

    DAP is part of the Perak Gov., not the Opposition. You have a different role to play. DAP is THE GOVERMENT in Penang, Selangor and Perak.

    Support your colleaques in Perak. There is so much work to do. All the local councils need cleaning up. These are the more important issues at hand and not who is the MB. We expect the corruption in DBI and other Gov agencies to be addressed and the whole system revamped. Don’t make the start of a difficult job more difficult by creating new issues.

    Don’t give any opportunity to the BN media to attack the People’s Front. OKC is trying to play hero by commenting on DAP/PAS coalition. Ali is playing card again. DAP has 5 years to prove that it is a viable party with the capabilities to rule.

  67. #67 by max2811 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:54 am

    correction: Ali is playing the racial card again.

  68. #68 by devilonpois on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:55 am

    Well said ……………. musyu99 said:
    “Saya sekeluarga sentiasa berdoa semoga YB dan lain-lain pucuk pimpinan parti pakatan PKR/DAP/PAS berada dalam petunjuk jalan yang lurus bagi membentuk satu bangsa Malaysia yang dinamik dan mengkagumkan.”

    I urged that
    “PAS/PKR/DAP practice a liberal and open-minded and sincere leadership ”
    “PAS/PKR/DAP terus berjuang dan berkhimat demi semua lapisan masyarakat dan negara…dan bukan kepenting segelinter/sekumpulan/atau sesebuag parti saje, yang penting memberikan peluang secara adil dan saksama, memajukan ekonomi dan memahami suara dari lapisan masyarakat…..”

    terima kasih

  69. #69 by ComeOnDAP on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:55 am

    Mr. Lim, thank you for taking the right step. Be the government. No more an opposition.

  70. #70 by Tulip Crescent on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:55 am

    I am sure that this new batch of PAS leaders are open-minded to know how to cooperate with the DAP leaders.

    Give them a go and see what happens. The DAP still control the numbers, although PAS control the swinging votes that will determine who will be in the MB’s seat.

    We just go by convention – it is aprt of constitutional law – by appointing non-Malays and DCM1 ans DCM2. What’s the problem.

    Handled properly, the relationship will scale new heights in political cooperation based mainly on the interests of the people of Malaysia as Malaysians.

    Let us leqarn to give and take. Let us provide a mnew model in political cooperation – a cooperation of equals and not the master and the eunuch.

    My best wishes to the DAP, PKR and PAS leaders. May God guidethem in their journey into uncharted waters.

    And yes, my congratulations to Kit for a fine job of wresting so many seats from the formidable National Front.

  71. #71 by bokiasee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:55 am

    Uncle Kit, bear in miind, don’t ever be emotional. Chinese got a saying that “Revert One Step Behind, The Sky & Sea will be Clear”.

    I felt a big releif because to gain is not easy instead to lose is just as simply as a wrong utter. History will always be fair and square. The Malaysians are waiting you all guys to create a history.


  72. #72 by k1980 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:56 am

    Black cat or white cat
    It doesn’t matter
    As long as
    It can squash
    The umno rats
    Pillaging the nation

  73. #73 by ppsbmy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:57 am

    This is democracy! Not everything refer to PM the dictator.

  74. #74 by devilmaster on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:57 am

  75. #75 by skyquest2000 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:58 am

    I hope to see one party only to represent only the alternative front, rather than, we divide ourself into DAP, PKR. I have to count PAS out as I do not think PAS could fit into one vision because of their islamic idealism which we respect them.

    Dissolve DAP, PKR and merge them into one new party. I think thats most ideal.

  76. #76 by Chandan Boy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:58 am

    Uncle Lim
    Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I’m truly relieve to read this latest update. Being a Malay, i’m dissapointed with what the BN has done to uplift the welfare of Perakians. The new partnership has my blessing

    Chandan Boy

  77. #77 by akumelayu on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:58 am

    pas, dap, pkr adalah dari tuhan yang sama. kita juga berhadapan dengan iblis yang sama. kepada penyokong kaum cina, janganlah jadi ultra cina. pikirkanlah juga hati orang melayu dan india. kita semua tidak mahu ada ultra malay atau ultra india. kita duduk di bumi tuhan yang sama. lepas ini kita akan mati dan tinggalkan ini semua. nasib kita ditentukan tuhan, tapi kita yang ‘lead’ kepada nasib kita. lu pikir la sendiri….

  78. #78 by danielchowck on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:59 am

    Uncle Kit, your decision to issue an apology was a wise one. The longer you take, the bigger the damage.

    For pulau_sibu and Chong Zhemin, please think along this line;

    Q1) Who will control the state govt if Jamaludin of PKR appointed MB? Answer : Anwar Ibrahim

    Q2) Who will control the state govt if Nizar of PAS appointed MB? Answer : Ngeh Koo Ham as DAP has 18 seats compared to 6 in PAS. Don’t forget that they can work together as Pasir Panjang is a Negeri state in Bruas Parliament. Moreover, it was Ngeh himself who nominated Nizar, the most academically qualified of the 9 Malay state assemblymen.

    Q3) Who will control the state govt if Ngeh appointed MB? Answer : UMNO. Why? ‘Coz it’s so easy to entice 2 out of 9 assemblymen to cross over to BN. They will say it is ‘justified’ to do so to protect the rights of the Malay Muslim.

    Q4) Who is smarter? Answer : Raja Dr. Nazrin and Ngeh Koo Ham

    Q5) What needs to be done by DAP? Answer : To convince the chinese voters that Nizar is a technocrate, not an ‘ulama’ and is clean. Nizar and Ngeh will actually report to each other. Also, with 18 seats + 4 non-bumi seats from PKR, you have the upper hand. Well, DAP has four years to do that & defend against MCA and Gerakan’s lies to the rakyat.

  79. #79 by WC on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:59 am

    Uncle Lim,

    First i would like to express my congratulations to DAP for its victory in the just completed election.
    I am a Perak citizen from Taiping and I voted for DAP. I voted for DAP not because of chinese ethnicity and chinese right. I voted for DAP for a better Malaysia.
    As a Perak citizen of this new state goverment of DAP/PKR/PAS, I do not see the appointment of Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin as a PAS MB. I view him as the new coalition state government MB. I do not think this has caused shock and consternation to the people of Perak. And why should it be?
    Uncle Lim, DAP is now the government of the Perak state. No longer an opposition. Boycott is not a wise move. In fact, it shows the lack of attitude.
    Yes, the Sultan can use his prerogative to overrule the constitution in this case. But i would prefer the prerogativeto be used under a more important circumstance. Overruling just to appoint the party leader with the most seats in the state is not justified. My suggestion is, now that DAP is part of the state government it can propose to the state to amend the state constitution regarding the appointment of MB to open to all qualify citizen of Malaysia. This will secure a long term solution to the equal rights of Malaysian rather than asking the Sultan to overrule everytime a new appointment of MB is needed.
    This is my view on the new state government. This is my state and this is my government. The government should rule by the people. That’s is why BN was denied.

  80. #80 by Sentosa on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:59 am


    I salute you!

    Just want to remind everyone – majority party is still BN;

    IF Barisan Rakyat (PKR-DAP-PAS) do not regroup!

  81. #81 by deepthot on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 11:59 am

    DAP will become irrelevant like BN and it’s component parties if it keep playing “opposition” or race card.same goes for PAS,PKR and all the rest.i can understand, it’s been too long since neither party has had a chance to rule anything.all both know is to play opposition. but guys, it’s time all you grew up. ppl want a strong opposition, not stupid infighting ones.country and people come first and not your petty grievances.

    if you guys are smart, you have been given a golden opportunity to be a TRUE OPPOSITION. ACT LIKE ONE then!

    i foresee, someday, the party will become inconsequential and the individuals will matter more.so watch out on the next election.as many have said, the worst enemy of all the opposition parties are themselves.

    i am a malaysian, and many like me do not wish to be identified by our race anymore. i hope to live long enough to see the day when “RACE/RELIGION” no longer is printed on government forms and stuff. we are malaysians, not indians and chinese or malay anymore. we want a TRUE OPPOSITION.not silly squabbles like this.

    Remember, you are the government now.Don’t play stupid opposition anymore!work for the people and country and people will vote for your again and again.

  82. #82 by ipohleong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:00 pm


  83. #83 by kcb on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:01 pm

    “MCA & Gerakan is putting oil in the fire…..they never understand what the people want. That young ka ting is making stupid statement again. He is trying to gain interest and publicity…old fashion mind thinker….throw him out forever. Election already over he should not interfere BR matter.” nahoda

    Looks like OKT & the like have not learned their lessons yet. Such cheap shots will only earn the wrath of the voters!!!

  84. #84 by latestarter on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:01 pm

    KIt Siang,
    Thank you for your public apology. What a sigh of relief! To err is only human. The important thing is that you have risen to the occassion and did the right thing. Right now, if I may put my 2 cents worth, you need to thread carefully and avoid any more actions that will sabotage the so called Barisan Rakyat (of which the DAP is part of), lest you unwittingly provide more ammo to the BN to kill you or worse still alienate your supporters. Working alone as DAP was easy. Working in a coalition is a different game altogether. It is like walking on a tightrope. To avoid similar problems in the future, please take the lead and work through your other coalition partners (PKR & PAS) a cohesive strategy for the way forward. The current loose terms of reference of the BR is going to be a recipe for disaster. The BR had worked out a brilliant strategy pre election. Now that you guys are in the driving seat, what is the way forward? Public bickering on your ideologcal differences will be your archilles heel. LIm Guan Eng is making statements on the NEP which is contrary to the Peoples Declaration that the DAP has endorsed. PAS has said something else on the NEP. Anuar has postulated another view. It is time that all the coalition partners of BR iron out these issues and come out with a united stand on these sensitive issues. If the BR intends to be a solid alternative to the BN, please get your act together. If BR’s left hand does not know what it’s right hand is doing, your credibility is at stake. It is time to to tone down partisan chauvinism and learn how to work as a cohesive team. As loyal supporters, we hope an pray that the leaders in DAP, PKR and PAS will have the maturity and wisdom to do the right things to take advantage of this golden opportunity which took a long 50 long years to present itself. We may never get this chance again. So please do blow it. Think before you act. Your actions must be seen to be fair to all races, be it Malay, Chinese, Indian or others. Rise above partisan politics and work towards serving the needs of a trully Malaysian Malaysia.

  85. #85 by boh-liao on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:01 pm

    Like it or not, despite the term ‘Barisan Rakyat’, there are people who believe that there is a marriage of convenience going on among DAP-PKR-PAS.

    Are these three sleeping partners having a common dream – a fair and progressive Malaysia where race and religion are not divisive factors but provide strength and diversity to the nation?

    The results of the 12th GE are just the beginning of a new and untested dawn for lots of hopeful Malaysians (many of whom threw caution and suspicion into the wind to vote for DAP, PKR, and PAS) who dared to dream of changes for the better of all Malaysians, today and tomorrow.

    DAP, PKR, and PAS: Please do not for one minute think that you have reached the political summut. You are just embarking on a long and winding road to the political summit. The real battle is 4 to 5 years from now when the 13th GE will be held. By then, voters, your bosses, would have decided to kick you out/terminate you or give you the mandate to rule the federal government as well.

    If DAP, PKR, and PAS screwed up this incredible opportunity to convince Malaysians of their worthiness, then they will force voters to go back to the racial cocoon mentality.

    DAP, PKR, and PAS should learn from this appointing Perak MB incidence. There are rules in the real world and you have to work within the rules, some of which are beyond the control of political parties and cannot be changed overnight. You should know the rules before going into any GE!

    DAP, PKR, and PAS: you are no longer opposition parties in Perak and Selangor. Together you are majority but on your own, you are not. Remember the BN has 28 seats in Perak DUN. Anytime, with crossovers of a couple of DAP, PKR, or PAS chaps to the BN, you will very quickly revert to be the opposition again!

    DAP, PKR, and PAS: Do the right things!! Avoid going down the slippery road taken by the BN!!

    Voters are smarter now and not so easily brain washed by mass media.

  86. #86 by kanthanboy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:01 pm

    showsomemercy Says:

    Today at 11: 47.57 (1 minute ago)

    There you go kanthanboy!

    Thank you showsomemercy,

    I feel 90% relieved. I would like to see a statement issued by Kit himself on this blog before I can feel 100% relieved!

  87. #87 by phinixx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:01 pm


  88. #88 by ManUsuxxors on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:02 pm

    I am a Chinese malaysian. And please, uncle Lim, you go to the palace, go on your knees and ask for forgiveness.

    It is only proper. Because this is a monarchy and the state sultanate system is accepted by all who live in Malaysia or call themselves Malaysians. it is a basic constitutional structure. You respect that. If you don’t all hell breaks loose.

    And then you tender your resignation as party honcho and downgrade to member.

    Because, from your actions and your blogging, you have proven yourself unfit to lead the party. Utterly irresponsible.

  89. #89 by rocketintoparliment on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:03 pm

    Dear YB Lim,

    Guess you are now in the same category as Pak Lah, today say something, tomorow change. Today DAP perak says they will respect the wishes of the sultan ( and you or your CEC did not object ) and when the sultan made his choice, you call for boycott. Before even starting to work for the rakyat, you are now trying to show off your power. I think that you really need to relook into yourself to see if you are the right person now to lead us into the next GE ( well DAP has won this round & perhaps its time for you to make an exit when you are still at the top ). I’m really dissapointed with your stand as i voted for DAP for the 1st time this GE ( and i hope i won’t regret this for the next 5 years)

  90. #90 by pkrisnin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:03 pm

    YB Lim,
    I’m glad to read this statement and I agree that you should attend the ceremony, don’t give the UMNO asses to exploit this issue.
    We must be extra hard working and careful with Penang as UMNO will 100% play the race card. That’s the only card they can play. They cannot fight DAP on corruption and efficiency. DAP will need to keep campaigning to counter all UMNO and its cronies BS racial statements.

  91. #91 by devilmaster on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:03 pm

    Ong Ka Chuan is irrelevant already. He still behaving like an eunuch. No balls. After his humiliation loss to Fong Po Kuan in 2004, he begged his younger brother, Ong Ka Ting, to give him to contest in a safe seat. He doesn’t have the courage to stand again in Batu Gajah. What a shame. And now he’s trying to take some cheap shot. Haha. Nobody will fall into his trap as we are now more matured. MCA will still forever an eunuch to UMNO. This is the reality.

  92. #92 by Harimau on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:04 pm

    Dear all,

    Wrong or unwise decisions are (and will continue to be) made from time to time. To err is human.

    If there is anything to be gained from this episode, it is that the voice of the masses are respected by those now in power, and that can only be a good thing as we go forward.

  93. #93 by threesun on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:04 pm

    Damage has been done, apology alone is not sufficient. LKS has to resign ……

  94. #94 by Zonefinder on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:05 pm

    uncle kit is a old hand at politics. I suspect that what he did was a ploy to placate the old generation supporters as well as to deflect potential bullets from MCA and the like which DAP will get had they submissively accepted the appointment of Nizar.

    I can bet that he had prior agreements with the coalition partners ie Nik and Anwar before he came out with his statement last night.
    Notice no comments from Anwar and PAS??

    In one stroke, he has achieved his objective. I dare to further wager ( can see that I’m a betting man..)that he will instruct Ngeh and team to enthusiastically support Nizar at the swearing in ceremony today!

    Syabas to DAP and Barisan Rakyat (uncle, you need to quickly formalize this body. We need this to move on to win over the rest of the Country!

  95. #95 by GEMS on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:05 pm

    Hello Uncle Lim,

    I am glad that DAP has accepted working with the PAS and PKR on Perak regardless of who is the head. The keyword is all parties are working with one another. Neither is above the other when it comes to the matter of fairness to the people.

    Like what others have mentioned, the people have voted in the opposition(government in waiting?) as a whole.

    Changes take time. It takes understanding. It takes tolerance. Most of all, it needs cooperation.

    BN lacks all of the above. Its going to be a tough fight uphill for the BA. It won’t be easy taking over runnings of the 4 new states. More than likely, the BN will be at every corner trying to create trouble and make the BA look bad. This is where unity is important.

    By uniting the 3 parties as a BA, what you all have done is unite the voices of all the races under a whole rather than separated.

    It does not matter if our nation grows by 10% a year when the corruption grows equally or even more. So much wealth is squandered on unnecessary or overblown projects.

    Police earning as low as RM800 a month in federal land when a 7-11 cashier earns RM700 a month!!! Its little wonder that to the people, the police moto is “why risk it?”.

    Just by working removing the problems with the system, there will be a visible improvement in the standard of living all round.

    The people have had enough of economic growth that benefits only the wealthy and the powerful which is invisible to the people.

    Humility, cooperation, tolerance, fairness… thats what the people want to see.

  96. #96 by lynncheah on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:06 pm

    Uncle Lim must be shocked with the sentiment of the people when you announced boycotting the swearing in of MB ceremony. I hope Uncle Lim will learn to think before acting on impulse. I have been an unwaivering supporter of DAP all my life and have the highest regards for Uncle Lim and DAP team but I must say this incident actually acknowledged my fear of the coalition not being united which is exactly the opportunity that UMNO is waiting for. Please deny UMNO the pleasure of capitalizing on this and say to the raykat, “See, I told you so. How can they run a government when they cannot even work among themselves?” This is a crucial term for DAP/PKR/PAS to prove to the rakyat on their unity.

    We need to respect the Sultan’s decision. The Perak Sultan and Regent have my highest regards among all the royalties other than Selangor Sultan. Having said that, it does not mean I am for a PAS MB but I believe there is a reason for their choice. Uncle Lim has to understand and compromise with all your Assemblymen. All have to work towards a common goal. That’s what the rakyat want. Quoting a proverb which is equivalent to a Hokkien saying,
    “For a tree to grow taller, it must grow tough roots amongst the rocks.” Put internal differences aside whether with PAS or among DAP members.

    I hope the outcome from the new discussion and development would be a wise choice. You have my support.


  97. #97 by ahkok1982 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:06 pm

    Uncle Lim,

    it is really sad to know that you even had the intent to boycott the swearing in. who gives a rats a** is the person sworn in is from a minority party or is Malay or what. If that is your reasoning, then all that you have said during campaign are total lies.

    1) Chinese rights. should we be 2nd class because we are minorities? VS DAP should be MB because PAS is minority

    2) Malaysian VS malay, chinese, indian, bidayoh, dayak, kadazan, or even orang utan (aka khairy).

    You said that you have read out a 3 para statement to apologize to the Sultan. Please post the statement in the blog or newspaper and prepare a statement of apology for the people.
    I cast my vote for you Uncle Lim. Yes I am in your constituency. Please do not make me regret my choice. I did not vote out blood suckers in exchange for hypocrites.

  98. #98 by anak mak on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:07 pm

    saudara lim kit siang.

    lima tahun bukan tempoh masa yang lama. sukacitanya saya nyatakan, tidak mustahil sokongan kami kembali kepada barisan nasional jika barisan rakyat gagal berfungsi dan berperanan sebagaimana yang diidam-idamkan.

    lim kit siang, anda bermain dengan api. sifat perkauman anda terlalu tebal dan bebal. adakah anda fikir dap boleh berjaya sejauh ini jika tidak kerana sokongan kami. kami bukan bodoh menyokong sesuatu yang akan menggugat dan menghakis hak kami.

    kami dituntut untuk berani melakukan perubahan bagi menuntut hak sebagai sebuah keluarga baik cina, india mahupun melayu tetapi bagaimana dengan anda.

    berapa lama perjuangan anda selama ini dan apakah pencapaian anda jika tanpa sokongan kami.


  99. #99 by stnaaron on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:08 pm

    hello! LKS thank you and you did a correct job ..for perak MB post.. we dap member thru out the nation will give feedback and complaint thru this blog…let the member be your rocket eyes for BN authority observant.

    plan stragically in penang to creates pillar for DAP to launch more rocket thru out the malaysia nation in next polling… set an example from LKY past experience and i belief that your son can managed penang fairly to all regardless races , poor or rich.. now we have to attract foreign investor for penang development…

    i should suggest that set a good example in rulling a states as in penang… i think DAP can manage 50 fold better then the rest of the party…

    Good luck to you and the gang… keep the spirit high cos we have managed ourself to deny 2/3 ..we should enjoy… stay happy and healthy…. stay low profiles for a time being to consolidates stratergic planning….. for the next launch….

  100. #100 by phinixx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:10 pm


  101. #101 by rakyatmalaysia07 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:11 pm

    Tnanks Uncle,
    I knew my faith in you is justified . I understand that what the Sultan decided was not really fair to DAP and you are magnanimous in giving the apology anyway.
    I pray you will always bear in mind that the vote given to DAP and the mandate is from all Malaysians including Malays like me .

  102. #102 by BetterMalaysia on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:12 pm

    YB Lim;

    last night l called you UNCLE KIT, today you’re different one, really a YB. Never pretend to be a Guan Eng father, DAP Supremo, Chinese fighter BUT nation statesman.

    Kudos for you sir.

    We can deny BN in GE13.

  103. #103 by Joetan on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:13 pm

    In this difficult situation that DAP is facing I would like to say that at this moment, this can be considered a wise move by Sr. Lim. From the begining I have state that I dont quite agree to have a chinese candidate to be the menteri besar of Perak. This is bcos in the next election Barisan Rakyat might faced a backlash from the malay communites. BN will definitely stand to gain from backlash if there is any. Secondly, if a chinese from the DAP will to become the menteri besar then he will faced a lot of difficulty to run the state efficiently. He will faced tremendous pressure from the BN and the malay communities in Perak. Issue such as land, housing and etc will be made into a racial issues.We must bear in mind that the non-malays in Perak are the minoritiies. Thirdly, the candidate from PAS will probably take a more moderate islamic stand in this mixed population unlike Kelantan. Fourthly, the perak ppl irrespective of race will gain more if the PAS candidate practise equality, transparency and accountibility unlike the BN discriminatory policies. This will definitely put pressure on the BN government to change their existing discriminatory policies if they wants to win back the non-malays vote. From this episode , we might say that it is too bad that the PKR candidates do not have any paper qualification.

  104. #104 by deborahwong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:14 pm

    Uncle Lim,
    I understand the predicament that DAP faces, and in my opinion, there is no single candidate out of the 3 components that would meet 100% approval from everyone. The saving grace of course, is that BR has a common vision and purpose to bring about a just society for all malaysians, to uphold justice, practise good governance and to weed out corruption.

    Your earlier stand is not without merit completely, esp in the light of MCA’s accusation published in the STAR today. The sentiments of the DAP supporters notwithstanding, however, we need to look at the big picture. I imagine you and your team will be reaching out to the people of Perak to help them understand and to garner their support for the new state leadership team. Lets all give the new MB a chance to prove to the people that, the new govt of perak will be good and fair to all.

    I applaud you for the courage shown thus far… to be a dissenting voice even though u must know yesterday that your stand will not be popular, and hving done that, eat the humble pie and apologise now.

    I wish you and your team all the best….

  105. #105 by digard on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:14 pm

    Thanks, Kit, for doing the right thing.
    Let’s bury this topic in the category of ‘human mistakes’, irrespective of the damage it might have done.

    “I am sick of reading news about samy or MCA. Can the newspapers stop reporting those meaningless news?”
    pulau_sibu, why not instead you stop reading them?
    If you stopped reading them, and everyone else stopped reading (and buying) them, the problem would solve itself.
    I am sure the wise leaders and advisers of BR are aware of the fact, that one of the next huge steps will be the establishment of a daily paper providing fair reporting. If things move on as they are at the moment, Vincent Tan might be tempted to pick up on the idea.
    Also, our brothers and sisters in the rural area must not be deprived of decent reporting, neither.

  106. #106 by hwt on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:14 pm


    I am one of the voters who gave PAS a 72-vote majority in Lubok Merbau, which may be one of the reasons why the opposition is able to have a marginal majority in the Perak state assembly. I hope Mr Lim and his DAP “comrades” treasure the opportunity to prove their governing ability to the people, not resorting to political ploys even before the formation of the state government. PAS is a minority party in the assembly, and with a large number of BN representatives, the people are not worried about over-islamization of the state. In fact, from recent reports in even Chinese newspapers, quite a lot of people are having the impression that the PAS candidate is indeed a better choice among those proposed.

    Hann Wei

  107. #107 by tsondrue on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:15 pm

    Dear Uncle Lim,

    Please, you must help the People in Perak to stop this. DAP must rule, I heard that there is such rule that only muslims are allowed to be MB.

    Honestly if other parties are made the MB, then 4 years later, not alot of people will vote for Opposition party anymore. I was born in Perak and I dont feel like anyone of us like Jawi words on the signboards,

    Chinese or Indians or any other religion people can rule the state as well, why would people say we are a multi culture country where it can only be run by muslims?

    Better say this is a muslim country and people like chinese and indian stay at our land! This is so unfair!

    Uncle Lim, with all respect DAP must win this or opposition will be at threat on the next election.

    I would say not more than 10% of people would prefer Perak to be run bu PAS, can you imagine your wife or daugters are fouced to wear Tudung? no more pubs and liquors? no more late nights?

    Please help!!

  108. #108 by andy6000 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:16 pm

    Thanks Hero from DAP for your sincerly APOLOGY! DATO Lim Kit Siang you are my hero again. You had teach us the lesson we must do our correction for the mistake we made. Thumb up for our Yang Berkhidmat LIM KIT SIANG.

  109. #109 by rocketintoparliment on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:18 pm

    One more thing Uncle YB Lim,

    You are now the govt of Penang, Perak & Selangor. You are now no more the opposition. Whatever that you say or do will now have an impact on our economy… Look at today’s KLSE, after one comment from you.. it drops again. This is because your comment now has an impact on investors and this will have an negative impact on us ( the normal rakyat who is trying to survive ).

    I urge you and your party to think before you open your mouth and say something stupid as you are now the govt of today and not just an opposition party or leader. Please, do not open your mouth and shoot like before as DAP is now the Govt of 3 major states in Malaysia. No point saying something and then say sorry later as investors will just move away and we , the rakyat who voted for you suffer. DAP is no more an opposition party like before, in 2008 DAP is the kerajaan of perak, penang & selangor. Please remember this ya..

  110. #110 by andy6000 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:18 pm

    And YB Lim, when you will have talk again in Ipoh?

  111. #111 by stnaaron on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:19 pm

    All DAP member please be a observant and feed back in this blog if you can see people are trying to spread lies , negative thought that they are using to split barisan BA… especially the little ong saying that DAP duped chinese voters… i don’t think the little ong is a chinese …supporter… I heard that during that nite after election on 08,march,08 almost everybody that votes for BA are praying on thier knees to deny 2/3.. i got feedback from among my fren… most of them are praying hard for the change/…. take it easy LKS and the gang I think in our nation we have 12million are behind your back …. for support…

  112. #112 by peterngchinpoh on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:20 pm

    YB Lim.

    Bravo on your statement. You will have my continued support in our fight for justice and equality irrespective of race and religion. Let us just form the government first and from there BA has to prove to the rakyat that they are really an alternative to BN. Your speech in USJ12 eventhough you are not well at that time inspired us. Irrespective of the race and religion we are all brothers and sisters and we are malaysians. Give PAS and BA a fighting chance.

  113. #113 by k1980 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:21 pm

    Why Pak Lah wants the NEP to continue— because the BIG CRUNCH is coming

  114. #114 by alegria on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:21 pm

    Uncle Lim,

    From the bottom of my heart, please do not repeat such a stupid action. I woke up this morning and my ulcer acted up because of the news showing the statement you made yesterday evening. I am thinking, first your son has to go on air telling the whole country about the NEP and your rejection of PAS Menteri Besar. I smelt racism at highest level. I hope and pray that your apologies can undo the damage you have done to the DAP and the hurt that you have incurred to the voters who voted for DAP.

    Please instruct you son to set up a website to gather input on how to make Penang great again. And tell him, the abolishment of the local council summon is not a good ideal, it will be better if the summon can be discounted like 70% if the offender pay within 30 days. And do not abolish the NEP, you can practise the NEP in a more transparent and fairer manner. NEP is meant to help the poor of all races, so do it and don’t stop it.

    Lastly uncle Lim, loosen your grip on the young team you have there. Do not act like you own them. You have a good team now, let them grow and reinvent a more dynamic DAP for the future.

  115. #115 by kchyip on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:23 pm

    Dear Democracy,

    Do you know why we are supporting DAP this time?

    If comparing with BN, DAP is with lesser experience to lead the PERAK state!

    We supported DAP because it is able to fight not only for the chinese community but also for all malaysian towards democracy!!!!

    DAP is able to do and say something that BN would not do in BN! This is the most important strength of DAP!

    Unfortunately, DAP has made a very wrong decision in PERAK!!! Now, DAP is no longer as its role! DAP Perak just acts as MCA!!

    DAP of perak is giving up the people there as well as democracy for power and certain position!

    Please remember that :-

    IF DAP of PERAK acts like BN , why dont we choose BN since BN has more experiences?

    The minority to lead the majority in PERAK is a shame on Democracy!

    DAP of Perak would pay for it in the 13th GE!!!!


    Many Thanks!

  116. #116 by kcb on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:23 pm

    Few could have anticipated the outcome of the 12th GE. Quite obviously, I don’t think the possibility of forming coalition government in states like Perak and Selangor had crossed the mind of PKR/DAP/PAS leaders.

    It is not an easy task to form a coalition government in such a short time, especially when the 3 parties were not prepared in the first place. I believe that the voters understand this situation and are prepared to be very forgiving for any initial hiccups.

    Please try not to make any hasty decisions and/or statements. We voted for BR and we want to see BA succeed!

  117. #117 by ajax on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:25 pm

    Uncle Lim,

    Pls understand now u r the government not the opposition…discretion is greatly advised. We have put u there to teach the ruling party how to administer a Malaysian state and how all Malaysian can co-exist to develop a state regardless who the MB is coz the state in not the MB’s alone. It’s the rakyat’s…MAKKALSAKTHI..remember.

  118. #118 by bokiasee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:26 pm

    Uncle Kit, you know we have been waiting 50 years for this moment, we had been working so hard at the bottom of our heart to see DAP will prosper and florish for the nation. Future generation’s propect lays in the hands of B.R.

    So, the responsibilities and tasks lay on your shoulders and vital. Have a clear mind and objective NO matter what kind of obstacles strive on. This is just a beginning………………

  119. #119 by kcb on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:26 pm

    sorry, …we want to see BR succeed!

  120. #120 by phinixx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:27 pm


  121. #121 by gofortruth on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:28 pm

    Thank you Uncle Lim.
    It was a test on your humility & meekness.
    It takes a brave man & a bigger man to turn around & to apologise on an extremely difficult decision made earlier and today you are that bigger man.
    It goes to show how humble & pliable uncle Lim is and he is always at the ground to listen & lead all the rakyat of Malaysia.
    Many congratulations uncle Lim, you have passed the test with flying colours!
    Rest well & stay sharp!

  122. #122 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:28 pm

    All’s well, that ends well….well, not quite so fast, at least not just yet.

    The journey to replace BN has only just begun. Now BARISAN RAKYAT has to prove they can deliver in the 5 states, helping each other to score more and more successes along the way.

    Come 2013, Barisan Rakyat will be ready to be the new government in Malaysia and will replace the corrupt, crony-istic BN.

  123. #123 by boonbooncompany85 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:28 pm

    i am dap supporter. thanks for your wise decision. we need a chance to show our leadership and now sultan has given it to us. we should appreciate that. i respect malays and indians. they are my fren. i welcome the wind of change. and i strongly believe the new perak government is better than the previous !

  124. #124 by andrwo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:29 pm

    Uncle Lim – I voted and I persuaded my family to vote for you – so please don’t disappoint me by doing these sort of brainless CRAP.

    If it have to be PAS, so be it. It looks STUPID and DISHONOURABLE to have given written agreement for the Sultan to pick as he wishes, only to cry uncle when the Sultan pick the 1/3 that you don’t like.

    Live with it! PAS is already trying their best to temper their manifesto to work with you guys, live up to the name and stop making such bigot decisions!

    Hope you guys will clean up your act … sheesh what a LOUSY start….

  125. #125 by malaysianboleh on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:29 pm

    i am shock to hear that PAS became the MB. But i am disappointed but have to respect the decision by the Sultan. What ever it is . i sincerely hope the new MB from PAS will be a fair and just,when making decision in this multi races Perak state.


  126. #126 by mendonan on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:29 pm

    Dear LKS,

    I am a Malay Muslim supporter of Barisan Rakyat and agree with most ppl who commented. Thank you LKS for hearing us out! To reiterate what others have spoken — DAP (and PAS too) should refrain from unnecessary idealistic public statements for now, stick with our common grounds (peace, justice, accountability, integrity, serving the rakyat/community etc etc) and common goals (kick UMNO/BN out!!!). We need to keep the momentum going throughout this next 5 years. Treat each day as election day!

  127. #127 by jspt on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:29 pm

    We can see so many comments from our malays in this blog to support Kit’s statement of apology.It proves that Malay also support DAP for the sake of creating a better Malaysia. I can see many people have asked DSAI to settle this issue with DAP last night as per DSAI blog. They are very concern about it.

  128. #128 by LG2u on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:31 pm

    Uncle Lim,

    I am glad that you apology on this matter.

    Although I respect your firm stand that DAP is not happy with a PAS MB, I guess you have mis-judged on how high the respect Malaysian people given to the Perak sultan. His majesty is kind like the one and only one King that can gain so much respect from people in this country.

    I hope you and the DAP party can be more confidence. As long as the result seen in Perak and Penang … the rulling term shall continue… let’s get back to work!

  129. #129 by justice_fighter on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:31 pm

    Thanks YB Lim for the apology.

    It’s important that we admit our mistakes.

    Being a Chinese, for the first time, I have successfully convinved my family members to vote for PAS instead of MCA/BN. We don’t mind PAS being the MB as long as he practices equality, justice, corruption-free policies, and does not turn the state into an Islamic state.

    As long as the DAP-PKR-PAS coalition can prove themselves to be better than BN, I will continue to support them!

  130. #130 by conec on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:33 pm

    Thank you uncle Lim for the statement. I also would like to apologised for remarks I made about you yesterday.

    I believe everyone here is a bit emotional and get carried away. I believe PAS may not be the ideal candidate in a Chinese dominant state. However, under the current political tsunami/government change or whatever you might call it, PAS will need to show that they can cater to the needs of the people (Malay/Chinese/Indian).

    PAS idealistic religious government has had mixed performance ie very good in eradicating corruption & maintaining peace but poorly in socio economic. I believe it is our duty to assist PAS, to enlighten them to take the moderated/modern Islamic approach in managing government. Like Lim Guan Eng said yesterday “Don’t tell me the problems, tell me the solutions!”. Instead of criticizing them of their religious believe and their failure, lets help them make Perak a multi cultural place. If they refuse to listen, then only we shall drop them.

    Together, let us make this Malaysia for Malaysian. And finally I am starting to believe in Malaysia Boleh

  131. #131 by MWong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:34 pm

    Wise move, Uncle Lim! As a Ipohan + Perakian, I could see where you come from. Bein’ the majority seat holders, you’ve every reason to do so in favour of a fair and democratic outcome. You’re in a very difficult position. But since DAP has left its fate to the Sultan, like it or not, it’s the Sultan’s choice, and we’ve to respect your highness’s decision. Since the MB, and TMBs involved 3 races, and all representatives for 3 parties, this is the “Best combo” we could ask for. I reckon we, Perakians will understand, that’s nothin’ to do with your’/DAP competency to defend your stance and rights, accepting the appointment is just bein’ respectful and big-hearted. Btw, you must have really heard us, both from your blog n facebook account, thank you for listenin’ to the rakyat voice! Bravo Uncle Lim!

  132. #132 by ah yee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:40 pm

    To pas/dap/pkr coalition, while campaigning we use slogan “vote for change. Vote for moon,rocket or bull’s eye”..now that we are winning why suddenly whether you represent moon,rocket or bulls eye become sooooooo matter…….hope all the new leader be careful in making statements.

    SO WHY BOTHER BECAUSE PAS MB IS OUR MB, DAP MB IS OUR MB AND PKR MB IS ALSO OUR MB. ITS OUR NEW STATE GOVERNMENT ANYWAY. WE RULEEE!!!!….for the time being respect Sultan decisions and move along with it.

    The most important thing is to sort the differences and move on and show to the people who give trust on us and give another shock to BN that we can work and progress better than when they rule the state.



    p/s: perjuangan masih panjang….

  133. #133 by kclim on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:43 pm

    Before 12thGE each party head of DAP . PAS & PKR could rattle off their heads.But now after 12GE , Barisan Rakyat which was sneered as a “ marriage of convenience by incompatible partners” by BN has turned out to be an awesome “BN Terminator”.

    Now the BN controlled media shall seize every opportunity to headline in the daily newspapers each and every utterance from DAP, PKR and PAS leaders taken out of context of course. After the damage is done , any apologies or retraction will be reported in small print in some obscured back pages. So BR component party members beware as you are now given immensely much more news media coverage that reaches the masses.

    Lim Kit Siang should from now onwards be careful about what he says since this tri-partite coalition is still in its infancy. Given time Barisan Rakyat shall very certainly evolve to be the most sophisticated political machinery Malaysia has ever seen. BN shall shudder each time they tangle with BR.

    Dr. Koh Tsu Koon is indeed a gentleman and deserves praise for the respect he accorded BR especially Lim Guan Eng by requesting to be given the opportunity to attend and witness the swearing in ceremony for Penang on Tuesday 11 March since he had to attend PM’s ceremony on the 10 March. Coming from an arch foe is truly heart warming. Hence when DAP threatens to boycott Perak’s swearing in ceremony , we wonder if the time has come for old guards like LKS to ride off into the sunset with Samy Vellu.

    So Saudara LKS, being the wise old owl , kindly throttle down your fiery comments since you are now not only speaking for DAP but for and on behalf of Barisan Rakyat since the people respected, accepted and voted for the opposition coalition front BR. This intricate coalition fabric weaved together by RPK and DSAI with DAP/PKR/PAS is very fragile indeed right now. I guess the leaders of PKR and PAS can learn something from your trespass on this issue. In politics one seldom get second chances, damage control hardly works especially where the media is biased and stacked against the “offender”.

  134. #134 by Libra2 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:43 pm

    Now we wait in anticipation for that elusive announcement.
    Say something for the rakyat, for the country, for the future.

  135. #135 by jennifer cheong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:43 pm

    Dear YB Lim and all leaders,
    We are so sad but please bear with it, as it is just the beginning. the most important task is to form a new government smoothly and have a good working relationship with Sultan and all. We are dissapointed, but we can understand as it is not DAP fault. It is the final decision made by respective authority. We will not blame DAP or anybody, but praise God for what God has bless DAP on earth for 12th GE result. Well done ! We love you and wish all of you our lovely leaders the best ! Work smart and work wholeheartedly for the RAKYAT who needs you!

  136. #136 by badak on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:47 pm

    Good going uncle LKS…Don,t be afraid of PAS..Show UMNO LED BN gorverment that DAP can work with PKR as well as PAS,ISLAM is a beautiful religion.It is UMNO WHO IS POISONING the mind of people.

    UMNO VETERAN Tan sri ABDUL AZIZ TAPA said that Malays who voted for DAP are not patriotic.I am one of them.Please i voted for DAP,Because of UMNO being a corrupted party.PGCC PROJECT IN PENANG CLEARLY SHOWS HOW CORRUPTED BADAWI IS.

    BADAWI himself launch the project .When no approval was given by the state.This is only one case.I bet there will more issuses like this.

    Talk about the NEP,Only MALAYS who support UMNO benefits.If a malay who openly supports PKR ,PAS OR DAP ,CAN FORGET ABOUT ANY KIND OF HELP.Why are there so many poor malays in

  137. #137 by mecharojak on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:48 pm

    LKS & CEC, the damage is already done! Public support for DAP will be affected. Malaysia is for Malaysians not DAP! Please remember this election is won with protest votes. DAP has not yet won the battle for the hearts of Malaysia.

    This coming 4-5years DAP must prove that you guys are not TALK ONLY. Please be wiser in the future. If you DAP old guards cannot see the bigger picture please retire now.

  138. #138 by yummyking on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:48 pm

    LKS, congratulation on your reversal of your earlier decision.

    I believe that the role of MB is to manage the body of execo members. Representation at this level should be based on share of seats won by each party. In another word, the MB is sort of a Chairman of Perak Inc. !

    I hope you now see the light why the Sultan’s choice should be respected!

  139. #139 by sean on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:48 pm

    Well……i guess agreeing who and whom and which party the MB is suppose to come from is and will not be a big problem at all.Am sure the coalition will come to terms.After all if the Sultan or the Regent have chosen…am sure the choice made were best for all and most of all the entire state.Am confidence DAP will be a strong partner in Perak state and works towards a betterment of the state and the entire nation.We have lost so much under BN.

    The biggest problem starts when BN lost badly in the just concluded GE12…they will “REINVENT ITSELF” and i am very sure of that.You see…..every failure comes success.
    Lets make a comparison between Opposition parties and BN.
    Opposition fought like hell decade after decade as opposition and they have created a bench mark for themself.Their failures to capture any states (let us all exclude Kelantan to make the explaining easier) or even form any government since the beginning of time have made the opposition parties a “GOAL”.And unfortunately their goal is to deny 2/3 etc.And now GE12….they eventually achieved its goal and made even better achievement by capturing a few states.So the main aim and goal for the opposition have been achieved(LET NOT BE COMPLACENT).And they will remain as it is in which it will comprise of the few parties namely DAP,PKR AND PAS.So….the three parties will remain the same if they do not increase its benchmark which is ultimately “COMBINING INTO A SINGLE PARTY”.

    As for BN………..they were the government for almost all states as well as the entire nation.But 12GE cost them dearly.They divide and rule for so long and finally they lost badly.When that happens…don’t you guys think BN benchmark and their goals have change entirely? My opinion….BN will seriously or in the process of upgrading its benchmark and they the BN will eventually merge and form a single party system(A STRONG multi racial party)
    Look if this were to happen…..the only loser at the end will be the current opposition parties in the mid and long term.Like i said earlier…every failure will turn into a success and if the opposition can’t catch up with the BN sometime in the near future then the opposition future will spell doom if nothing are done to transform into a single party system.

  140. #140 by proud2bMalaysian on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:53 pm

    uncle Lim,
    i think it’s ok if PAS going to be the MB even i’m a chinese…
    what we want now is fairness…
    please show that BA can develop and improve the country…
    work together…
    i agreed with justice_fighter…
    the important think is equality…
    even my friend a malay and indian also vote for DAP…
    it’s not only chinese in our party…
    forget about races…
    but work for the RAKYAT…MALAYSIAN…

  141. #141 by ytc on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:54 pm

    My wife and I were having a gloomy day yesterday after seeing your public response. I work as a GP doctor and I do deal with public, esp those before, during and after the election. The sentiment for change is so real, you can feel the heat of victory even during one of the worst day at Stock Market on monday.

    The whole sentiment almost got lost yesterday when I read your public statement.

    I appreciate your courage to reverse your statement today, not because we (inc. my wife, who was never a politically aware individual, except this time, which is also her first time she make sure that she exercised her voting right) like PAS, but we do feel that for the first time in our Political history, we feel there is hope for our daughter in this generation.

    Let the fragile opposition coalition works its way up, and make sure there is no turning back. We beg your wisdom to let this happen, Mr. Lim.

    And thanks again for your reversal of stand today.

  142. #142 by sotong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:54 pm

    BN’s decades of divide and rule policies had created an unhealthy and damaging distrust between the races and religions.

    Due to the damaging and unhealthy condition, the people must start to think before they say or do anything without any intention to harm/hurt others.

  143. #143 by cto on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:55 pm

    Not attending the ceremony is very poor form in my honest opinion. Has DAP boycotted all the ceremonies where a BN MB was sworn in? If not, unless DAP is closer to BN than PAS, why boycott this one?

    If DAP does not want to be part of the opposition alliance with PAS, then get out of it. Can’t have the cake and eat the cake.

  144. #144 by Dr. W on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:56 pm

    What a relief~! Kit Siang has proven to the us that he is willing to listen to the rakyat!

    Now, all of us who has voted for BR are eager to see you, the mighty supremo LKS to defend the rakyat against the evil in the parliment, together with our victorious opposition MPs.

    You as the si-fu of DAP, get prepared to battle in the front line while leave the states affair to your students. From this drama, it is beyond my expectation to witness the maturity of Perak DAP branch members headed by Ngeh in handling the issue.

    My worries after 7pm are vanished after this post. Thank you again for making it happened.

  145. #145 by emanuel on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:57 pm

    Hi! This is your first test to show what that DAP stands for justice. How can PAS member be MB when they have the least number of MP? This is not fair and if DAP stands for justice, then stand up for it. We voted for DAP and not PAS. So, I do not want PAS person to be MB otherwise, I cannot go to a pub any more, I cannot buy “sew yoke” in the open anymore, I cannot wear my miniskirt anymore, I cannot do so many things just like those guys in Kelantan.

    If DAP cannot stand up to PAS now, this will show that you are a push over! Don’t let those “nonsense” about unity get over your head. PAS and Anwar is trying to make use of DAP and you are old enough to know that. These guys are snakes and they will spike DAP when the time is right and form a single party oposition instead of a united opposition front.

    Down with PAS MB and Go for DAP MP. It’s all or nothing ok. REmember…the saying “Lembu punya susu, Sapi punya name”. DAP won the biggest in Perak; so DAP should lead Perak!

  146. #146 by Danny Lim on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:58 pm

    We MUST move FORWARD!!! We cannot look at the past, we have to look forward! Work together as a team is the most important task at this moment for Barisan Rakyat! PKR + DAP + PAS, this term is the most crucial years for all of you to work together and make Malaysia a better country to live! Don’t because of POWER that spoil this relationships and very soon, people will loose HOPE in this BR and vote swing back to BN.. DAP can celebrate this tsunami, but if you don’t do the right thing, the next tsunami will go the other way. Show us what you can do, and give us what we want! Go Go DAP!

  147. #147 by stevchew on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 12:59 pm

    Kit Siang. good sense prevails. Whatever reasons you may have for the protest, resolve it internally. Look at the bigger picture and the reality of the situation. The Sultan must have his reason for appointing a PAS MB.

  148. #148 by mypopo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:00 pm






  149. #149 by wwwatcha on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:01 pm

    Anda mengambil tindakan bijak LKS dengan memohon maaf pada Sultan Perak dan pesan saya jangan sesekali bermain api dan jangan sesekali MENDERHAKA kepada KESULTANAN MELAYU.

  150. #150 by choong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:02 pm

    Dear Uncle Kit,

    I am unsure of what other announcements you will be making later on behalf of DAP but I do hope you will attend the swear-in ceremony as well. Barisan Rakyat will remain a distant dream if DAP, PAS and PKR don’t cooperate and bring about the changes the rakyat sorely need.

    Let the winds of change blow for the good of the nation.

    Thank you.

  151. #151 by NTPAS on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:04 pm


    Smelt racism at highest level in Perak and Selangor, Where is the fairness ? racial issues fall apart as it is fundamentally against fairness.

    I cast my vote for “fairness, transparency, accountability and incorruptible” . I did not vote out blood suckers in exchange for a bunch of hypocrites.

    Please do not make me regret my choice

  152. #152 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:06 pm

    ///The sultan is in favor of PAS!/// – pulau_sibu

    This is not true. By State Constitution, menteri besar has to be a person of malay descent. If the DAP thinks that the State Constitution is racially discriminatory, then change it if it can with summon 2/3rd majority in the state assembly to go its way. (Whether this is advisable in the context of “give and take” and appropriate respect ought to be given to Malaysian Malays’ sensitivities is a separate issue). But until state constitution is changed – we’re talking of the situation now – the MB has got to be a Malay, and no matter that one thinks by democratic practice the DAP wining the most seats in Perak ought to be entitled to the top post, the fact is we are still a nation governed by laws that have to be adhered! Following the present state law and constitution, it will be a choice between two malays out of the list of 3. However between the PKR’s malay candidate and the PAS’s malay candidate offered for the position, the latter is more qualified, and therefore the choice by the Regent of the later is consistent with DAP’s espousal of meritocracy!

    Then the next question – about having a PAS’s candidate as MB whose theocratic agenda runs squarely against DAP’s secular and pluralistic platform.

    In the first place – because of the ideological chasm and gulf between DAP and PAS – I have never approved of DAP having any more permanent power sharing agreement with PAS with PKR in between other than informal pact not to have three cornered fights. I won’t even vote for PAS in a straight fight between BN and PAS something that majority of readers here disagreed with me in the time preceding the election.

    However the DAP and its politicians have gone the other way during the election campaigning. They have told the voters that the choice was simple – vote opposition regardless PAS, PKR, DAP or even the donkey, anything as long as it was not BN! The implicit message here was that all three could work out their differences and share power to oust BN. Again I was skeptical of this prospect but never mind that’s what the DAP represented expressly or impliedly to voters.

    Then came Perak : the fact that PAS, PKR, DAP submitted their respective choices to the Regent of Perak showed that all three had not worked out their differences before the election. They took the easy – and short sighted – way out. Lets bash the BN first then only worry about building the bridge when they came to the river. They never calculated they would by their message to the disaffected voters reached the river that fast and suddenly they found out that there was this technicality about the malay being a MB in the state constitution and there was no bridge of prior understanding between them that the opposition party that won most seats would be supported by the other two to take the spoils of victory. That’s where the trouble begins.

    If one has not followed principles before the election at least do so after.

    Principle No. 1 : Perak is the problem of PAS, PKR, DAP which did not have an pre-electoral understanding on this issue but now that it crops up, they throw the buck to the royals to decide and make up the short coming of the Opposition and arbiter their disputes. If the Regent decided that under the circumstances, though not ideal, the MB should be PAS’s candidate, then the DAP should honour that!

    Then comes Principle No.2 – the DAP says it cannot honour because to do so would thwart the democratic will of majority in Perak opposed to PAS. That may be true but the fact is in the time running up to the election, the DAP had presented the picture that it could work with PAS, that DAP supporters should vote PAS if against BN and PAS/PKR’s supporters should vote DAP if arrayed against BN.

    One cannot represent such position to say you can work with PAS up to the time of election to defeat BN and change rules thereafter in victory and say that PAS should not be entitled to plum position if circumstances such as state constitution and the Regent’s unexpected decision favoured PAS. This is opportunistic.

    It is also opportunistic because Rakyat voters of all races bought DAP’s story line that Malaysian politics should move to another level transcending race and religion – and that the three opposition parties had resolved sufficiently the differences to enable them working together if they secured the state assemblies, which apparently it is not true, otherwise there won’t be a Perak fiasco of this scale.

    From day one I can understand where PAS is coming from – that it will show case Kelantan, soften face and show the true colours when it reaches nearer to goal with help of PKR and DAP – and in this the PKR would always side this PAS pivot of Malay base to DAP when it came to the crunch.

    This had happened before leading to DAP’s leaving the BA dominated by PAS and the same dynamics will operate in the present so called Barisan Rakyat in which PAS would always have advantage of dominance.

    That is why I said that any deeper DAP’s cooperation with PAS would also help PAS to realise its ultimate goal of a theocratic state faster with DAP being used. This is because to PAS it is striving for the Almighty’s dictate to form His state and that never changes.

    But never mind that’s just my personal opinion. If the DAP along with its supporters claimed that the DAP could work with PAS without differences before the election, don’t come crying after saying that the system and the legal infrastructure favoured PAS and that you have been played out.

    We lie on the bed we make. That is responsible action. You can’t tell the Malaysian public you could work with PAS before election and after getting the benefit of votes from all sides in victory turn around and say after election that you can’t work with PAS! What kind of principles is that?

    DAP like a man knowing very well the unacceptable temperament of a physically attractive woman (PAS), represents to her that he loves her and enjoys the sexual intimacy and later when unexpectedly due to their collective acts, she got pregnant (state govt won), this man (DAP) is saying I can’t marry her because of her impossible temperament. What principle is that? It is a principle of a cad. You should not have associated with and made representations to a woman of such a temperament in the first place – and leverage on the sexual benefit of that relationship and later complain that you won’t be responsible for the child with defective DNA from the mother! You have to lie on the bed you make and try to give credence of what you represented to the whole world, relatives and friends supporting the relationship that you said would work. You have to try at least to make it work ie take responsibility for your own actions even if you ought to know better that your earlier actions were wrong, opportunistic and may be short sighted.

  153. #153 by kolchyi on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:07 pm

    DAP biadap
    13/03/2008 12:37pm

    KUALA LUMPUR 13 Mac – Ketua Penerangan UMNO, Tan Sri Muhammad Muhd. Taib menyifatkan arahan DAP supaya wakil rakyatnya di Perak memulaukan majlis angkat sumpah pelantikan Menteri Besar, sebagai sungguh biadap dan kurang ajar……..

    but BN people didnt turnout at the swearing…

  154. #154 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:07 pm

    Seriously, Malaysian politics has never been so colorful before. The more colors the merrier. If not too mundane. :)

  155. #155 by MILI on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:07 pm

    Saya sebagai org Melayu yang amat bangga di atas kemenangan parti DAP di kawasan saya berasa sedikit kecewa dengan apa yang berlaku ketika ini.Saya tidak mengira siapa Malayu,Cina,India,apa yang penting perpaduan di antara kita.Kemenangan pihak pembangkang janganlah di rosakkan atas sebab-sebab yang sebegini rupa.Saya amat berharap tuan memahami kami yang mengundi DAP.

  156. #156 by andy6000 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:10 pm

    yes.. But it’s a happy ending at last. For me la. :)

  157. #157 by alancheah on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:10 pm

    They will all attend the swearing-in ceremony at 4 p.m. later
    in Kuala Kangsar, according to Malaysiakini. So glad that this
    matter is solved.

  158. #158 by sotong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:11 pm

    DAP + PKR alone cannot fight BN UMNO……….with PAS given a chance to show their true self with support from Non Malays………..BN UMNO days of narrow and damaging politics of race and religion are numbered!

  159. #159 by joelhslee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:13 pm

    Dear Bro Lim,

    I’m glad you reversed the decision. DAP have the most seats in the assembly so whatever DAP decide carries much weight. And we long to see that every decision of the coalition is working towards enhancing the coalition as such will weaken the BN indirectly.

    Let Penang, Kedah, Perak, Selangor and Kelantan be the examplary references to voters in the next GE in terms of transparent and good governance with all accountability to the rakyat.

    And you have a huge role to play towards this strategic move to a better future.

  160. #160 by reminder on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:14 pm

    There you go again.
    Bad start for DAP.
    You can protest whatever you like, but never go against the sultan/regent decision and show disrespect.
    Should you try that, the whole malay community (Barisan Rakyat + BN) will go against you. Dont believe me? Just try.
    There is a lot of other effective ways to overcome this issue.
    Chill out a little bit. Take it easy. DAP have the majority, right? You know what to do.

  161. #161 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:15 pm

    Just that this as a scenario. Digi vs Celcom vs Maxis… They always challenge each other to the limits. In the end who enjoy all the benefits? Rakyat lar…

    Some similarity here is that, if we have strong opposition vs the government, then we rakyat will benefits in the long run as they try their best to outdo each other. :)

  162. #162 by just a moment on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:15 pm

    Uncle Lim, Thank You, Thank You, and please tell everyone to attend this afternoon ceremony. Please also remember, Do, try lah, do not make similar mistake because the next time round, It won’t be this easily forgiven.
    COngrats for apologizing and be a man. The rest of us need to be as ONE. Prepare for rough ride ahead. We’ll overcome. Be watchful of enemies from other faction but stay FOCUS! We Are One Big Family. Bless all Malaysian

  163. #163 by i_love_malaysia on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:16 pm

    I wonder why the option of allowing the Perak Sultan to pick one of the three including PAS candidate was made in the first place!! since PAS candidate was offered as one of the MB candidates, we cant blame the Sultan for picking him, as he was offered as one among the three. If only DAP & PKR candidates were offered in the first place and the Sultan rejected the two and ask for others, then, there’s still a way out. There’s no reason to hurry into making decision on this, as long as it is a right decision!

  164. #164 by kun9999 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:17 pm

    Dear Uncle Kit,

    Thanks for resolving this matter. Sultan must have his own reason to pick PAS as MB. But no matter what, we should respect the decision of the sultan.

    If later the new MB cannot do his job properly then we will ask the Sultan to reverse his decisions and pick someone with more calibre.

  165. #165 by cwk100 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:17 pm

    Uncle Lim, thank you for your reversal. Now we could look forward to a fair and progressive Perak. All Perakians in other states or overseas should help is whatever ways in making Perak a better place for all Malaysians in the years to come. Make Perak another opposition stronghold just like Penang.

  166. #166 by voteforDAP on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:18 pm

    Man of Steel = LKS, whoever become the Minister of Perak is no importance. With 18 state seats won by DAP, u must be assure of many council seats held by the DAP. Therefore, u guys are the foundation of Perak Government, and not let the BN to laugh at you guys for letting a PAS member to be the Perak Menteri.

    Uncle Kit, we have the faith in you. Therefore, step into circle of the council and be a great assistance to the Perak Menter. Most importantly, making the Perak government a stronghold for the opposition!

  167. #167 by cmbss on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:18 pm

    YB Lim Kit Siang,

    I have a great feeling you have fall trap by the BN dirty tactics. And you have responded too fast (or hasty) .

    I am sure this is not the last and BN will continue to do whatever to crack the young coalition of PKR/DAP/PAS.

    No harm give some leeway and suffer a bit on the current favorable Barisan Rakyat background (any, way you have suffered so much more all these 40 years). I know it is difficult to answer the hard-core chinese voters in Perak, but they will , (I am sure) see the bigger picture in due course. DAP must strengthen its PR/communication strategies.

    Watch out for more BN tactics in the coming days and months and be prudence.

    Respect your courage for the apology to the Regent of Perak.

    Also please forgive us (those who “hammered you last since last nite) for we all your true supporters in building a better nation.

  168. #168 by Taijisifu on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:20 pm

    PAS, PKR, or DAP,
    WE are all MALAYSIAN
    Let it be NOW that we begin the era of
    Just being MALAYSIAN
    WHO ARE WE ?
    Let Go of the past
    Let’s start on the right footing

  169. #169 by Luther on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:21 pm

    Daulat Tuanku!!
    & Syabas LKS !

    Go and attend the historical ceremony of BR and apology to the Sultan.
    We are sadden and shock with your earlier statement but since now you apology and realised, I assume that the future Malaysia Malaysian and bigger victory and better Malaysia is what matter more than who will be the MB.We don’t really care who will be the Perak and Selangor MB as long they are from BR and will serve the state as per what they preached during the last GE and we will con’t to support them.
    Don’t let smallest crack to split the newly born Pakatan DAP/PKR/PAS. BN is eyeing on all this possiblity.

  170. #170 by sotong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:21 pm

    Who was in power in the last 50 years to create this mess in our country?

    Come on, give Opposition parties a fair chance to prove themselves.

  171. #171 by cfc007 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:22 pm

    YB LKS, You have made the right decision, a decision for all Malaysians, regardless of races and religious.

  172. #172 by i_love_malaysia on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:23 pm

    DAP is a governing party now (Penang, Perak & Selangor!!! Major States) and no longer as opposition party like before, what ever DAP says and does carry much weight now compared to before, so it is very important that thorough discussion (DAP, PKR & PAS) and decision making should be carried out first before making statement which being retracted later!!! it does not reflect very well on the party that issued the statement.

  173. #173 by gofortruth on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:23 pm

    Uncle Lim
    It is going to be a monumental task just to clean up these few states just won and its going to be uphill all the way.

    1) A good place to start would be corruptions & crimes.

    2) Another area would be open tenders to state government contracts.

    3) NEP matters can come in much later but immediate help & care must go to those Malay graduates who can’t get employment. May be through some further training in whatever form that is deemed most effective.
    Reach out to the poor Malays and help them the best you can.
    There must be a loud & clear message that the new state governments love & care about them and this must be communicated & widely publicized not just in words but in action. Hopefully & eventually they will get to know the truth & happily agree that NEP should be done away with. Rome was not built in a day. Similarly something that has been done & still on going can’t be undone in a day.(BN will look for the tiniest excuse to flare up racial tension).

    Hold joint consultations with PKR & PAS and come out with a common policy that will appeal to the people of Malaysia irrespective of race & religion.

    All the best to Uncle Lim & take care!

  174. #174 by feimao.mrbb on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:24 pm

    Dear Sheeps,

    It is not just about doing the gracious thing of accepting a PAS candidate as MP.

    LKS is right in his uproar. Afterall, the people pf Perak has spoken and it is very clear that DAP is the popular choice. So if it is a question of doing the right thing – ask yourself why PKR and PAS is so “hadap” for the MB post? They could decline and support DAP’s choice as the candidate.

    The regent of Perak has disappointed many. Despite all his talk of equality and his power to nominate a non-Malay non Muslim, he ended up choosing one. So in the future, becareful of the wolf in sheep’s skin.

    Hindsight is always 20/20. We shall see what a PAS led coaliation in Perak have in store for us.

  175. #175 by nameless on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:25 pm

    Dear LKS:

    – It takes courage to apologize.

    – In the dark corners of politics lurk the people
    who want to break up the BR alliance.

    – I thank you for all you’ve done over the years
    for _all_ Malaysians. I’m proud of you.

  176. #176 by gotcha1965 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:25 pm

    It takes real courage to admit mistakes and apologise. YB, you have done it and we salute you.

    You have shown us that DAP will not cover up mistakes but will own up and apologise. This shows that we may have disagreement on certain issues but we will respect the final decision made based on common objective.

    We set out to be a strong voice for the people in the state assembly, we still are except that we are at the admistration side this time round.

  177. #177 by cg on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:25 pm

    Although apology done, but damage has also been done. If PAS who was once somewhat extremist also can review their ideology to somewhat more moderate, why can’t DAP who preached that it represent all Malaysians?

    Is it because some of the people, such as those in CEC are already too deeply polluted by the race/religion based politics in the country? If the direction of the party cannot be change to suits the more mature people nowadays, then probably it’s time to change the leadership.

    Honest speaking, sometimes I do admire your son much more than you as he projected a more moderate and tolerant figure while sometimes we do see arrogance projected by you. If you cannot step out from the BN/UMNO’s model of thinking which had been voted out by the people, then probably it’s time for you to let those who can make the change to lead.

  178. #178 by stk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:25 pm

    emanuel,you have been reading the MSM too much,go get the facts right before you speak about PAS in Kelantan.Do you have any chinese friends in Kelantan? Kelantan MB Nik Aziz is a man of humility,very humble and righteous has won many respect from people of all races me include a chinese.Ask me to chose MCA,UMNO,MIC to PAS.PAS anytime.

  179. #179 by burn on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:27 pm

    kita barisan baru, malaysian malaysia…
    lupakan yang lepas, let us maju ke hadapan bersama…
    satu negara, satu bangsa!!!

    hidup DAP! hidup PKR! hidup PAS! hidup RPK!

  180. #180 by ayang on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:27 pm

    The world is watching us. If we don’t behave properly, they will be laughing at us. Maybe we can learn from US President elections – Democratic Party – Barack Obama.



    I’m malay and I vote DAP in this year election.

    Grow up all Malaysian, if not we will be left behind.

  181. #181 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:27 pm

    DAP’s refusal to work together with PAS should not be interpreted as a move against Malays, as what it is opposed to is PAS’ agenda of Islamic State, rather than Muslim Malays. I hope DAP will not yield to pressure and start working with PAS, thereby going against its own ideologies of Malaysians First, secular democracy, and meritocracy.

  182. #182 by kcb on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:28 pm

    Given the BR voters’ current sentiments, any dirty tactics to crack the coalition of PKR/DAP/PAS will only invite the wrath of the BR voters!!!

  183. #183 by renaissance.my on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:28 pm

    Kudos Mr Lim for accepting that you had indeed made a mistake.

    Let this be a lesson to all the Barisan Rakyat representative. You are voted into your position by the Malays, the Chinese, the Indians & all other Malaysians. During the PRU 2008, all seats has been fought one-on-one, so whomever the candidates were, the people has given their support & voted for them collectively regardless of the symbol that they hold, as long as it is against the BN candidate. So please, don’t let Barisan Rakyat become another BN … We are all after all Malaysians, aren’t we ?


  184. #184 by VoteDAP on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:29 pm

    Hope we all share the same pain of Uncle Lim. He must have reasons to do so, his political wisdom cant be nyanyuk overnight.

    Majority chinese (before election) cant accept DAP to work with PAS – but actually this is BN’s dirty tactic to sway away chinese votes from DAP. DAP has to keep distance with PAS to prevent BN step in and take advantage. (on the other site, please dont forget BN also use the same tactic to PAS – support PAS, chinese will be penalised by PAS. Same old tactic they had been using for ages…we have grown up, stupid BN)

    I wish to say that Malaysians are now more mature and have more political awareness. Uncle Lim must be worry of DAP’s chinese supporters as PAS member was chosen as MB. He has the reason to release a harsh statement to stand DAP’s policies not to work with PAS.

    However, Uncle Lim must be surprised to find out Perak Chinese and could be all Malaysia Chinese do not agree to boycott the swearing ceremony (I should not always address us as Chinese, we are all Malaysian indeed. The day has come if not soon). Good sudden turn over after gathering opinions from grassroot rakyat. We should respect Sultan’s decision and we can accept PAS as MB as long as they did not impose silly rules. Anyway, DAP has 18 seat in the state assembly, if any rules made is not beneficial to all, i mean ALL regardless of races, DAP can still object. Dont practise the undemocratic BN’s democracy whereby everyone in BN must agree what UMNO/PM decides.

    Although we have let BN a chance to badmouth on Barisan Rakyat, never mind. Words wont affect us. Your wise ACTION and good ruling of the state will shut their mouth off!!!! BN still sleeping with their rotten practices – “Got mouth to critic others, got no mouth to critic themselves”….BN, BN….your retrogression has come. I wish to see them collapse soon.! Padan Muka.

  185. #185 by zack on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:30 pm

    being multi-racial .. DAP should have fielded a Malay in the last election and he would be the MB from DAP. Unfortunately DAP is not mutlt-racial but just a Chinese party. Next time make sure that the DAP field a Malay as one of his candiates and there will be no problems of this sort!

  186. #186 by Wang on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:31 pm

    Great. I salute to your courage to apologize. This shows us that DAP is willing to work together with all parties in the coalition government.

  187. #187 by loi bih siang benjamin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:31 pm


  188. #188 by Dr. W on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:31 pm

    stk, i am with you. I have a lady friend, a chinese who teaches in Kelantan. She expressed that Kelantan is a very safe and peaceful place. Indians and chinese, buddhists, chirstians, hiddus are treated with great respect. And, no problem in getting pork supplies..

    So, dun worry. Give the new state government a try and remain focus in battling with our common enemy, the BN-machinery.

  189. #189 by ppsbmy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:32 pm

    if PAS-DAP-PKR shows that they can work together, BN will definitely have to change.

  190. #190 by dawsheng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:34 pm

    One will be naive to expect UMNO will stop attacking the opposition with its propaganda especially DAP after it lost 5 states in the recent general election. But as I watch the afternoon news today, I can see that the newscaster was feeling disgust as she uttered all those nonsense and lies, her eyes was full of sadness.

  191. #191 by great phye on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:36 pm

    Kudos LKS, for correct the mistake.
    It has been tough to be a opposition leader for the pass years. Maybe it is hard to change the habit of “pembabkang”. Please remember DAP has to play two roles. As a Parti Pembankang in Parlimen and As a Part of Kerajaan in Penang, Perak as well as Selangor. Don’t just membankang for the sake of membankang. Please be careful not to make similar mistake again.
    The new DAP-PKR-PAS coalition is in infant stage, the coalition is very fragile and need time to grow strong. Such nuisance should be avoided at all.

  192. #192 by dawsheng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:37 pm

    UMNO’s only strategy now is to raise racial sentiments among its supporters that the DAP is discriminating the Malays by abolishing the NEP. What will be the outcome of this strategy?

  193. #193 by cg on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:37 pm

    To whoever above who thinks that DAP is the Almighty, please wake up and face the fact that people are voting for Barisan Rakyat and not DAP itself. People are voting for a change and not DAP itself. Without the votes from our friends from all the races, DAP cannot attain it’s victory by just having Chinese or even Indian votes. Do not deny the contribution of PKR and PAS towards this victory or else I can only mourn that the Democracy in Malaysia will dies soon.
    We do not care who is the MB whether it’s from DAP, PKR or PAS. Just do your job to prove that barisan Rakyat is a better choice than BN. Or else you won’t be given the vote anymore in 5 years time.

  194. #194 by joelhslee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:38 pm

    Bro Lim,

    We are in a war, and there’re many battles therein. At times we could win some battles and yet still lose the war.

    I’m sure with your experience you’d know the difference and be wise to decide.

  195. #195 by zoesam on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:38 pm

    Dear YB,
    I must admit that politics has never been my interest and I am also not a radical follower of any party. I believe in seeing is believing and from there we are able to judge ourself. With what has happened to Malaysia, the Rakyat has had enough and we have proven it on 8 March 2008. I am so thankful that I have been brought up for not believing in racism or double standards. I do want to keep some of the traits that we have from our forefathers and as we all know, the Agong/ Sultan is the Head of the Country. That is something that we need to keep as only 32 countries in the world are governed by monarchs system. I am so looking forward for Malaysia to go hand in hand and make it a better place for our children. This would be the right time for us to prove it to the world and BN. With the statement that you made yesterday has upset many people Chinese, India and Malays etc. And this is the tool that the BN would use to shatter the BR dreams for governing together in unity. Let us not be like BN, let us put work together and make sure that we are the voice of Malaysia. If not, then DAP or PKR or PAS are just the same like BN. This is not what we want.

  196. #196 by emanuel on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:38 pm

    Hi STK! I have non-muslim friends there too that tell me how deprived they are in Kelantan after seeing other states. I am for DAP but not PAS. PAS seems to have changed and that is what they want to do to garner votes. This also show that they are highly political, they change their tune all the time so as to win votes not the hearts of the people. I have been around long enough to know how much PAS can be trusted; don’t try to teach me how to suck eggs, OK?

    DAP-PKR-PAS alliance is a marriage of convenience. At the end of the day, I do not want them to replicate BN. DAP being accomodative to PAS particularly in this scenario is like MCA giving in to UMNO. So what is the difference?

  197. #197 by dawsheng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:41 pm

    Finally, UMNO will achieved their goal of having 100% Malay in the cabinet. Congratulations!

  198. #198 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:41 pm

    You must not be too drunk for power!!!! Take some steps back and see things objectively, even in Penang. Let everything sink down before you shoot from the hip.

    You are making too many bad decisions and statements in just a few days. This is BAD, BAD, BAD.

    Why don’t you now see how PAS AND DAP can reciprocate each other in Penang and Kedah? And why did PKR object to DAP joining the government in Kedah?

    If you don’t want to give PAS an Exco seat in Penang, then let him have the Speaker’s post or something.

    And among the three parties, the DAP is already losing respect and support.

    Come on, do something. Otherwise the party is going to break up and be gone.

  199. #199 by alexx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:42 pm

    Whether or not we are voting for DAP. PKR or PAS is not the point.

    The decision to assign new MP is not in our hand.
    Its Sultan’s decision! Please remember this!

    Attending swearing-in ceremony carry no meaning that DAP is endorsing PAS’s mission in anyway! Please remember this as well!

    DAP always stand up for us and against any administration based of any races and religions. And this is the 1st time where a non-Malay, non-Muslim candidate name had been submitted to Sultan for selection!

    If unity worth nothing, yet no way for us to really work out a Malaysian Malaysia. Respect is what we need to learn and need to show by ourselves before we can really ask other to show the same to us!

    (PS: emanuel… you will never walk far if you still cant really think as a ‘MALAYSIAN MALAYSIA’ vision, and the most importantly learn how to RESPECT!

    MALAYs and MUSLIMs did contributed much in DAP winning in GE12! They did tried to accept DAP, when there are still with huge number of us which voted another barisan! Perak is not a state with pure Chinese only! We cant walk alone by only ourself.

    All Lao Uncle… Lao Ah Soh…and also with your LAO KOK KOK mind!
    Malaysia had been announced as an Islamic Country, even without PAS flag flying in every corner in this country.

    Learn how to respect Malays and their religions and they will do the same on us.

    For the very least reason, all 3 parties in Barisan rakyat willing to have ‘fair discussion’ within 1 another.

    Still you are making noise and tell that we should reject Sultan’s decision by pulling them down.

    No one will respect you if you cant even willing to show some respect to Sultan’s decision.

    SAD on your Lao KOK KOK mind, which just wont work at all this is country’s democracy development!)

  200. #200 by cmbss on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:42 pm

    DAP , please take immediate steps to strenghten your PR and communication strategy.

  201. #201 by neo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:42 pm

    YB LKS,

    You have made a wise decision. I am a malay and I voted DAP for both State and Parliament seat. I am proud of you guys and I believe Perak will be a better state with this new transparent state government.

  202. #202 by VoteDAP on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:44 pm

    ALso another note to all people in malaysia reading, listening or watching main stream media (MSM), just listen and never trust.

    Go to Malaysiakini.com for the truth!

    hahaa…one good outcome of this election, we have now one neutral media call Malaysiakini!!!!!! Bravo! Hope they run print as well (but i doubt BN wil give them license).

    Suggestion to DAP, please create another centralized online space like dap-election.com in near future. Get all DAP MP, assemblymen progress on single place, yet everyone can maintain his/her own blog. Not every DAP rep know how to maximize the power of Internet, (i.e Bukit Mertajam MP’s blog has been no update since 2007) at least a centralized place and a centralized Internet team can help every DAP reps. We need to know the actual work done by you instead of relying the blind/shameful/yet still people cant resist to have MSM..sigh

  203. #203 by sotong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:44 pm

    It takes courage to stand one’s ground. It takes even greater courage to admit one’s mistake….this is shown by Mr.Lim – a great leader who placed the interest of his country above his party and personal interest.

    Have we ever heard of BN leaders apologising for their mistakes??

  204. #204 by dawsheng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:44 pm

    Without DAP as part of the Barisan Rakyat, can the voters have change?

  205. #205 by understand on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:45 pm

    Please do not think that DAP wins big in the election. People vote for Barisan Rakyat and not for DAP. The argument that DAP has more seats and demanded for MB post or lead the state does not hold!

  206. #206 by abeisye on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:46 pm

    Lim , we votd u just not because you DAP, we vote for new Malaysia, don’t bring your sentimen here. Just build the goverment and governe well, don’t involve much politiking la…we are tired of corruption, rising prices and etc, don’t be so stupid. Just accept the Sultan choices and move on. OR in PRU 13 , we’ll never vote you la…so, Penang goes to BN again. CHANGE FOR THE BETTER

  207. #207 by democrate on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:47 pm

    YB, you have done a good job do not give any chance to our BN enemy to laugh at us, just calm down and see what our Pas can do for Perak and DAP should not be worried on MCA to criticise .in fact they hv already started . Most important is all the 18 DAP members should work together with PKR and Pas for the faith of Perak which is now so backward and dull.[ i m a Perakan and feel so bad of Perak development compare to other states.] Anyway as LONG AS Pas do not implement anything that will hurt the feeling of non muslims we believe with a strong contingent of DAP and PKR members in the Dewan Negeri Pas will carry out their duty very carefully otherwise he might hv to face for the VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE .
    Come back to Penang, AAB is now like a Serigala that unable to get the grapes but keep claiming that the grapes are sour! YB Guan Eng SHOULD hit back the 11 UMNO men and demand for the assets declaration and see how clean they are. Show AAB that Penang DAP will help all the Malaysians regardless of race. Stick to our policy THE MALAYSIAN MALAYSIA ….HORRAY………

  208. #208 by VoteDAP on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:47 pm

    Sotong said :Have we ever heard of BN leaders apologising for their mistakes??

    Damn agree!!!

  209. #209 by drmaharajahrk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:47 pm

    Frankly i would like to have a coalition which questions the wisdom of its partners rather than being “yes men ” like the ones in Barisan Nasional.

    Way to go BR

  210. #210 by sickandtired on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:48 pm

    Even if Pas has been named as MB of Perak, i am sure he can’t do any thing he wishes isn’t it. There are still DAp and PKR and also not forgeting peoples power.

    Penang MB is DAP, Selangor MB is PKR, well it’s seem fair Pas as the Perak MB, even majority is won by DAP. Ther is what we called fairness and equality.

    Work together to form a good goverment and remove racist. Show the BN pigs what we are capable of.

  211. #211 by kcb on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:48 pm

    “One will be naive to expect UMNO will stop attacking the opposition with its propaganda especially DAP after it lost 5 states in the recent general election. …..” dawsheng

    And that was one of the main reasons it lost 5 states in the recent GE – attacking the opposition with its propaganda especially DAP!!!

  212. #212 by sickandtired on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:50 pm

    Our former Selangor MB ‘Toyol’ is starting to stir up troubles for the new gorverment in Selangor. DOn’t give a slight chance at all.

  213. #213 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:50 pm

    Conclusion after all this , BN are still pigs! :)

  214. #214 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:51 pm

    Kit Siang did not apologise for refusing to work with PAS of ordering Perak SLAs to boycott the swearing-in ceremony. He only apologised for the offence caused by the statement, which he said was not intended to show disrespect to the Sultan and the Regent.

  215. #215 by MILI on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:51 pm

    # VoteDAP Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 13: 47.29

    Sotong said :Have we ever heard of BN leaders apologising for their mistakes??

    Damn agree!!!

    Double damn agree also!!!

  216. #216 by syncbasher83 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:51 pm

    Mr Lim,

    He/she who knows what is right will do it right.
    In order to show people that the CEC is right, uguys seemed to be unwise.
    And being unwise makes uguys simply stupid.
    Retract the statement and accept the appointment.
    The most silly thing i can see here when u are trapped by your own words. Its Malaysian Malaysia, start acting like one.
    Walk the talk man, walk the talk.
    This is already a bad sign, the CEC should learn if they continue to act like this, im very sure the rakyat will abandoned BA next time.


    CS Chong, Batu Gajah.

  217. #217 by optimuz on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:51 pm


    maybe you can elaborate as to what deprivation your friends have highlighted. If its only a matter of having more karaoke joints and vice dens, please don’t bother..

    if its the lack of modern infra, then blame BN for not providing federal aid to the state. PAS can only do what it can given its resources…and, from what I’ve been told, they’re doing a heck of a job!

  218. #218 by lms on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:52 pm

    YB Lim,
    Thank you. it’s a wise decision.Hope you will attend the ceremony too.

  219. #219 by same chong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:53 pm

    We are worried about this development. Thank God for giving Uncle Lim the wisdom and courage to do this. We all like to see a comfortable coalition. Take a rest your mind would be refereshed.

  220. #220 by optimuz on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:54 pm

  221. #221 by VoteDAP on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:54 pm

    again, i see this decision made to select PAS leader as MB is CHOOSING THE BEST CANDIDATE WITH BEST QUALIFICATION! not like the case whreby BN had no choice but to choose a dull from MIC because the post is reserved for MIC.

    Dear Malaysians, brighter days will come. But dont forget to stay alert. After all, we should not let politicians ‘use’ us, we should lead and ‘use’ em.

  222. #222 by david_cheang on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:54 pm


    It’s a humble and correct thing to do. Although sometimes it may seem unfair, but hey, lets put our differences aside and look at the brighter side. I believe that this is period of challenge for the DAP-PKR-PAS coalition to try to understand one another in a peaceful and harmonious way. It really shows the people of Malaysia how conflict can be settled through serious discussion and agreement, unlike the BN government where all the say goes to UMNO.

    Lets show the people of Malaysia that difference races not only are able to live harmoniously, but united in one voice, the voice of Malaysians. Keep up the good work!!!

  223. #223 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:55 pm

    Star Online:
    ‘KUALA LUMPUR: DAP has cheated its voters as a PAS state assemblyman will be sworn in as the Perak mentri besar today, Perak MCA chief Datuk Ong Ka Chuan said.
    Ong, who is also the MCA secretary-general, said DAP should apologise to its voters, saying it was sad to hear that Perak PAS secretary Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin will be the mentri besar.
    He said Mohammad’s appointment went against the wishes of voters, especially non-Muslims.
    “Having a mentri besar from PAS creates fear among non-Muslims. This also creates political instability.”
    Ong, who is also the newly-elected Tanjong Malim MP, said the Chinese in Perak voted for DAP to uphold justice and change for the better but the opposite seemed to have happened.’

    I think Ong is right. We should support Kit Siang, Guan Eng, and, Dr. Tan’s rejection of PAS candidate as Perak MB.

  224. #224 by same chong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:56 pm

    Uncle Lim, please attend the ceremony.

  225. #225 by madguyho on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:57 pm

    As my earlier posting, I’m glad this just a political manoeurve to get MCA off DAP back. It seem this time you have trapped Ong Ka Chuan to open his big mouth. The public respond from your earlier statement shown how much we, the Perakian can accept a PAS’s MB and how important DAP in the equation of Malaysia for all. Don’t worry about public perception about DAP working with PAS, by now most of us can accept this reality. Just work together for the benefit of the people, don’t let self interest and ego destroy the partnership, we will support you again in GE13.

  226. #226 by abeisye on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:57 pm

    YB Lim, just rember this, We vote u NOT because u DAP, but we vote u because of NEW MALAYSIA, we ARE TIRED OF CORRUPTION, RISING PRICES and etc, so, pliz leave your sentiment out and accept the Sultan choice and MOVE ON.
    One more thing, not all the chines voted U and there also malays who vote DAP. So, pliz be more clever.

  227. #227 by grace on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:57 pm

    Yes, this is the best decision. HRH made the wise decision. Let us support HRH’s choice.
    Since the state constitution states quite clearly that MB must be a Malay, let us not make this an issue. After all we are very angry with BN for not rspecting the country’s constitution. let us show them that we are civil and law abiding people.

    Let us make the coalition a model for BN to follow. Do not cause any untoward incident to jeopardise what you have been working for.


  228. #228 by alancheah on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:58 pm

    One day when majority of the people say, “We LOVE our new state government very much!” Then, those fellows in BN cannot make
    too much noice next time.

    So, PAS, DAP, and PKR, I know you all will implement many good policies in the coming days.

    Let’s show rakyat what you all can do, especially to BN
    and people in other states who support BN.

    One day, when those people see many good jobs
    done by PKR, DAP, and PAS, they will sure envy that
    we people in Penang, Perak, Kedah, Selangor, and Kelantan,
    have such a new state government. By that time,
    I am sure that more people will sure vote for
    PKR, DAP, and PAS in the next election.

    Let’s make that happen one day.

  229. #229 by bumantara on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:58 pm

    thanks for the wise decision. dont give the bn some ammo to attack barisan rakyat

  230. #230 by sickandtired on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:59 pm

    Forget that you are malay, i am chinese or you are indian. Let join hands and made our dreams come true regardless of color and religion and form a malaysian malaysia.

  231. #231 by One4All4One on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 1:59 pm

    What a relief!

    At long last good sense prevail. Don’t you worry LKS. I believe the Sultan and Regent of Perak will understand. Perhaps you have been looking at the election results for too long : DAP(18)
    PKR(7), PAS(6)..which may translate to DAP (MB), PKR (TMB1), PAS (TMB2). LOL! I don’t blame you…because you have fought so long , so hard to achieve what others can only dream of.

    A lot of parties are envious of the DAP-PKR-PAS alliance at the moment. However, we must not forget who put the alliance there. The rakyat. It is the rakyat’s will that you guys be there to serve the people, state and nation. You guys have a mandate to fulfill. Others are doing soul-searching and have bitter pills to swallow. Whereas you guys are enjoying the best moments of your lives. The rakyat are with you guys. Make the alliance work. Be a true blue politician. Stick with one another through thick and thin. Let’s not look from only one’s own religious or belief’s window. Let our “Vision Be World Embracing”.

    Let us embrace Unity, because without Unity there won’t be peace, no matter how hard we try. Let’s embrace each other as brothers and sisters, just like the the “Flowers of One Garden”. We may have different political ideologies. But if we think about our aims and goals we know we are heading towards a single goal.

    Let’s unite and work for the better.

  232. #232 by Counterpoint on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:00 pm

    Mr.LKS, I have great confidence that you would set aside all your reservations and do the right thing. Whatever arrogance we have seen of the people of BN, I am sure I would not see that in you.

  233. #233 by highhand on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:00 pm

    just go lah

    teh tarik

    n roti canai

    then ok lah

  234. #234 by cmbss on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:00 pm

    Dont forget the effort to almost eliminate the 3 corner fight among PKR/DAP/PAS in this 2008 election is a GREAT achievement.

    We have seen the first step and the result of it.

    Long journey ahead, hitches will surely be there.

    We just need to be focus.

  235. #235 by techie on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:00 pm

    # sotong Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 13: 44.23

    It takes courage to stand one’s ground. It takes even greater courage to admit one’s mistake….this is shown by Mr.Lim – a great leader who placed the interest of his country above his party and personal interest. Have we ever heard of BN leaders apologising for their mistakes??

    Yep, LKS is the man!

  236. #236 by tmithomas on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:01 pm

    the whole netizen were shocked with your myiopic statement last night. for a veteran, you dissappoints. i have been telling my kins to take chances and that it doesn’t matter which party is in power, as long as they are clean, honest, effecient. seemed like even DAP is not immune from the “temptation” of power. BN is also a coalition of parties, under one name – very much like the present scenario, albeit without ONE brand name. nothing wrong with a coalition, in fact, it is good that each party will have their say without worrying of “whip” but with some measure please. the outburst such as last night’s is very uncalled and destroy the trust. do DAP really wants to be cast into the “wilderness” again so soon? Give everybody a chance to work. PAS MB can’t do much without DAP support and DAP can’t get much done without PAS either. And thank God for PKR, seemed they are more level headed people there. Mr Lim, you are a statesman to many of us, please don’t destroy your reputation once your party tasted power, which is not even one week old. Please, please, act as a leader like DS Anwar instead of the warrior like last time. Please….

  237. #237 by alexx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:02 pm

    Dear Lee Wang Yen ,

    Why dun you just think and go ask ONG did BN submitted Chinese candidates before for MB selection?

    Its not that DAP turn to support PAS ideology right now! Its just about the decision of Sultan Perak. And your mind just cant think about this and your eyes just been polluted with other blur blur tut tut mind!

    They act blur blur while talking to reporters and trying to confusing us…. Yet you are becoming tut tut and convinced with their say about doubt the right way !!!!!

  238. #238 by clk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:03 pm

    Whether this was a “sandiwara” to please the chinese voters or not is not a good start. I for one wants to see a wakil that represents the people regardless of race, religion or ethicity. My wakil must fight for me; if not he deserves the sack in 4-5 yrs time.

    The old way of ChinaMan to MCA, Malay to UMNO and Indian to MIC etc. must change under the Peoples’s Front. All races voted for non-dacing. I believe this round, many were blinded to the “dacing/scale” symbol and voted whatever was there. Next round, we’ll be more certain now that we’ve got a benchmark.

    An apology to the learned Sultan is the right step. Both Perak and Selangor have very highly regarded Sultans who have the Peoples’ heart in mind. Please do not blow your chance.

    People are your boss, don’t forget that please.

  239. #239 by MY VIEW on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:04 pm

    This is an excellent move. Don’t be afraid of making mistakes as long as you learn from them. My philosophy is – ” A smart person learns from his own mistakes. A wise person learns from others mistakes. A fool never make mistake.”

  240. #240 by loverboy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:04 pm

    Great work YB LKS.. This what a leader should be.. Admit their wrong and try to change it..

    But, I hope this is not a drama.. No matter what, this eventually maybe have seal some Malay vote for DAP in the GE.. If that so, a really good job..

    Hope BR will last till the break of dawn..

  241. #241 by highhand on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:04 pm

    phew……… there will be no blood

    we want fireworks tonight

    time to celebrate !!!!!

  242. #242 by Dr. W on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:05 pm

    people, ignore the ignorant and possible-infiltration of the evil empire in this blog.

  243. #243 by alancheah on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:05 pm

    # sotong Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 13: 44.23

    It takes courage to stand one’s ground. It takes even greater courage to admit one’s mistake….this is shown by Mr.Lim – a great leader who placed the interest of his country above his party and personal interest. Have we ever heard of BN leaders apologising for their mistakes??


    So true. Shame on those BN people.
    only always know how to point fingers
    at others, but never look at own mistakes
    and ADMIT that!

  244. #244 by gary on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:06 pm

    Dear YB LKS

    You are a great leader and a wise one, whatever your reason that you have objected early does not matter now.

    You have apologised and that make you a great leader that every love and respect.

    Move on to capture the next election, free us from BN.

    Remember we in Sabah is still not free and still under the old unfair system

    god bless you.

  245. #245 by Supporters on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:06 pm

    Well done. What a great decision u had make. Hope that opposition site will work together, make the ppls life more comfortable.

  246. #246 by hwt on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:08 pm

    The Perak MCA chief who is now an opposition representative (BN is the opposition, not a ruling coalition) also speaks no better than past opposition representatives in the state.

  247. #247 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:09 pm

    I have a RM 25 fire works which looks like a ROCKET. Release it for celebrations? ^^

  248. #248 by democrate on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:09 pm

    KUALA LUMPUR 13 Mac – Ketua Penerangan UMNO, Tan Sri Muhammad Muhd. Taib menyifatkan arahan DAP supaya wakil rakyatnya di Perak memulaukan majlis angkat sumpah pelantikan Menteri Besar, sebagai sungguh biadap dan kurang ajar……..KEPADA 11 adun umno DI Pulau Pinang. What a stupid million dollar escaper to Australia trying to paly fire !!! damn it !

  249. #249 by aYsk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:09 pm

    This is our responds to Lee Wang Yen article at press time 13:55:40.
    While the rakyat plead for a peaceful ending, you try to create chaos among us.

    This lead us to present you with one question: –

    ARE YOU FROM THE MCA-BN CAMP WHO DISGUISE AS A PKR/DAP/PAS VOTER, who we highly suspected you are OKC.

    Please stop saying that we made a wrong choice by voting PKR/DAP/PAS, you guys had been defeated. Take this time to to find solution to your camp and stop finding fault on others camp.

  250. #250 by MY VIEW on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:10 pm

    Lee Wang Yen, do you know why the MCA and MIC were practically wipe out in the recent general elections? Don’t listen to people whose mind are disorientated.

  251. #251 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:10 pm

    DAP has most seats in Perak. This is what MCA did not achieve in the past. Thus, one cannot make that comparison.
    When GERAKAN created the post of deputy CM for UMNO after the latter demanded, DAP accused GERAKAN of cowardly kow-towing to UMNO. But UMNO had more state seats in Penang than GERAKAN at the time. Now that DAP has thrice the number of seats, GERAKAN would say that DAP’s acceptance of PAS Perak MB is a more cowardly compromise.

  252. #252 by democrate on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:11 pm

    sorry the word paly should read as ‘play.’

  253. #253 by pkrisnin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:11 pm

    I would suggest all the 5 sates work together especially in economic matter. You can be sure Federal will hold back most of the funding to these states. UMNO will try to regain Selangor using every dirty tactic in the book. If the 5 states combine and stick a single economic plan, they can out preform the BN states. Be a shining beacon to the rest of the BN states.

  254. #254 by sclin1 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:11 pm

    Dear YB Lim

    It is not easy to claim victory from BN. Please be very smart to make your remark think carefully before doing so.

    I have been a great admirer of your for the last 30+ years. However, I am a bit saddened by this statement from you after claiming victory over BN in Perak.

    Please have some sensitivity over the majority Malay comrade in the state. You will have to win big in next GE, and they are your best hope.

    Think before you leap. Think also before you make statements that may hurt.

  255. #255 by Barisan Rakyat on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:11 pm

    Uncle Kit.. We are at the stage where everybody are looking at us and will judge us for the next 5 years. Then there will be the next juggement day. Hopefully the next judgement will be better the one we have now. Remember what we are fighting for. Malaysia belong for all Malaysian where RACE & RELIGION are invisible. SELAMAT BERJUANG MALAYSIA..

  256. #256 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:12 pm

    Is this the crook that Raja Petra always wanted to shoot down? Muhammad son of Muhammad? Just get rid of him. If he dies of heart attack NOW, there will be mass celebrations throughout Malaysia! :)

  257. #257 by elindamin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:12 pm

    i’m upset with u YB Lim
    I’m Malay, and I’m Muslim.
    at the recent pru, I decided to give my precious vote to DAP, hoping for a better Malaysia. But with this kind of circus, I wonder if I still have faith in the Barisan Rakyat.
    I think you should be more mindful before you speak your mind.

  258. #258 by g2geetoo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:12 pm

    I wonder why Umno is so quiet over Ong Ka Chuan’s statement regarding the appointment of PAS ADUN as MB. OKC is insulting the Sultan by instigating DAP should not accept the PAS MB.

    Bring Ong Ka Chuan to kneel down in front of Sultan and give him 100 smacks on his bottom!

    ermmm……wonder why UMNO is so quiet this time!!??

  259. #259 by highhand on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:12 pm

    now there will be shit……………

  260. #260 by dawsheng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:13 pm

    UMNO can lose its majority and right to rule as government anytime should there be a substantial numbers of its members choose to crossover to the opposition coalition. Similarly, UMNO can also bolstered its position by buying some of the opposition seats. In this scenario, it is highly unlikely that the DAP candidates can be shaken as they have no place to crossover except leaving the party to become independent because MCA, Gerakan and MIC has been rejected outright by the Rakyat and in no position for such a bargain. Hence, in the coalition of the opposition, naturally we should worry more about Malay-Muslims candidates from PKR and PAS, any unhappiness and objection to appoint a Chinese Menteri Besar may trigger the racial sentiment to crossover to UMNO, that’s why many of us will agree to have PAS MB and fore go our rights and principles of democracy as the majority, just to avoid what some termed the “backlash” from UMNO. Isn’t this is the sole reason why Lim Kit Siang has to take the blame?

  261. #261 by citizen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:13 pm

    Let’s hope the final decision making is not by this MB but by all representatives of the coalition.

    Let see if this PAS MB is fair to the people…. will he implement hudud laws in Perak? If so, there will be a lot of restrictions, though pork and safety is promised. I hope PAS do not simply implement anything from the party, specifically Islamic laws. It’s a coalition of three parties, they have to respect DAP and PKR and the people of Perak. I hope PAS leaders do not do anything stupid to make the people loose confidence in the oppositions. Otherwise, the people will learn from this mistakes and vote back BN.

  262. #262 by MosbertVillage on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:15 pm

    Dear Sir

    I think it is time for you to act more statesman like and consider that in Perak, DAP should not act as though it is in the opposition. If you persist, you may as well throw in your lot with BN – you’re no different in putting party agenda over the people’s agenda. You cannot agree to leave the decision of picking the MB in the Sultan’s hands one day, and then back out the next. All it shows is that the opposition coalition cannot be trusted. And making an apology the next day doesn’t do much to repair the damage. Sir and the DAP CEC, please, for the sake of all Malaysians who voted for the opposition, think before you release statements. This may just be another sandiwara on DAP’s part, but it certainly doesn’t foster confidence.


  263. #263 by Dr. W on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:15 pm

    Friends, do not feed the troll.

    Ignore worms sent from UMNO, the cyber troopers as RPK mentioned before.

    Dun blame them, they are scared of losing their jobs now. :)

  264. #264 by Lim Ah Bek on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:17 pm

    Ini UMNo punya orang memang ada kurang sekolah sikit…wang rakyat dia makan, darah rakyat dia hisap atas nama DEB…padahal DEB hanya menguntungkan KRONI-KRONInya sahaja. Banyak contaoh saya ada, kalau mahu cerita tak cukup time lor… So apa yang Guan Eng nak buat tuu betul, hapuskan DEB dan buat satu pelan tindakan yang baru yang benar-benar boleh mebangunkan melayu di P.Pinang. Tak guna suap makan sahaja seperti DEB, tetapi kan lebih baik kita bagi orang melayu peralatan untuk maju setanding bangsa lain. Seperti kita tahu, orang melayu bukan bangsa pengemis seperti yang di war-warkan oleh UMNo, orang melayu boleh berusaha sendiri tanpa disuap… so, apa yg saudara Lim Guan Eng buat tuu memang betul…dia boleh memajukan orang melayu di P.pinang setanding bangsa lain tanpa menyuap… Ini UMNO dia dah panik, tak tahu apa setimen nak main lagi..pasal tuu hari hari mau main perkauman punya api..UMNo Kolot!

  265. #265 by democrate on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:17 pm

    Lee Wan Yen, has MCA been ever appointed as TIMBALAN MB even that they won many seats over DAP at one time if i m not mistaken.

  266. #266 by bumi-non-malay on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:17 pm


    UMNO baru is planning to disrupt the swearing in ceremony by deploying Pekida, tiga line, mat rempit, samseng, Rela trouble makers…etc to places around Kuala Kangsar Palace in Perak.

    They are using the DAP statement as excuse to stir another racial riots.

    Sultan Please Send in your Royal Malay Regiment & Army Immediately to protect the elected Representative and the people.

    We will not tolerate this nonsense anymore from UMNO Baru. Be Warned!!! They are DESPERATE. We must disrupt, disrupt these goons plans!! Its easy to identify them, they come in bikes and in a groups!!

    I have rushed team Mat Kilau there fyi!!


  267. #267 by i_love_malaysia on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:18 pm

    Since UMNO always threaten the other component parties that they can form the government even by it self when other component parties were making partition, their wish has come true!!!

  268. #268 by g2geetoo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:18 pm

    18 seats still cannot get the Menteri Besar post. What a shame! I can sympathize with Kit. DAP earned it, let PAS or PKR crossover then!

    Poor choice! I rather they appoint one from PKR!

  269. #269 by elindamin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:19 pm

    dear citizen;
    it will be a coalition government, right? just like in Penang. so don’t worry. PAS would not do anything stupid. the MB is not the sole decision maker.

  270. #270 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:20 pm

    The fact that DAP CEC objected to the PAS candidate for the MB post shows that PAS failed to make a collective decision when they submitted their candidate choice to the Sultan.
    What happens if PAS goes ahead in their move to implement some Islamisation policies despite the objection by DAP CEC? This Perak MB issue sets a dangerous precedence.

  271. #271 by Saint on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:23 pm

    My previous comments did not come through, but all that ends well is well.

    In short any disagreement must have been before meeting the Sultan and behind closed doors. We only want to see solidarity. With DAP having the lead, I see no problem with a PAS MB.

    Finally Saudara Lim KS; you are no more the opposition; but a ruling party with powers. More care when DAP issues statements – think twice from now on.

    Good Luck and God Bless

  272. #272 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:25 pm

    To Democrate,

    MCA couldn’t propose their candidate for a deputy MB post even though they had more seats than DAP. The point is whether they had more or less seats than UMNO.
    Likewise, the issue is the number of seats DAP has as opposed to what PAS has.

  273. #273 by melakatoday on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:25 pm

    Its a pity only a person in LKS’s capacity could scarifies himself, to be ridiculed by UMNO, MCA /BN in the hope to make good this swearing in crisis.

    We must be vary that any moment between now and the Royal ceremony, the risk of BA candidates being bought over , or defect is high as ever.

    Only a person in LKS himself knows how bitter it is to swallow this predicament, best known to himself between the rakyat, Royal Household and BN.

    Henceforth, the more we must respect him for the ” invisible ” sacrifices……..

  274. #274 by robleong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:26 pm

    Please show some magnanimity, Kit Siang – you have done a great job thus far. Please take it all the way, and do not sabotage yourself.

  275. #275 by Wisdom above on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:27 pm

    Bravo. A wise decision.

    HRH has even allocated a Deputy MB for Barisan Rakyat of Indian origin, a very positive development for Perak.

    Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.

  276. #276 by rozariorecardo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:27 pm

    walaupn c lim suda minta maaf tp ramai sudah ‘makan hati’ dengan dia… apa yg kita bimbang msykt akan melihat DAP mempunyai niat jahat sedangkan majoriti org2 DAP amat toleren, bertolak ansur dan dpt bekerjasama dgn org2 PAS… hanya segelintir org2 vateran DAP ni yg berfikiran 70an .. kolot, besar kepala dan tak mau mengikut perubahan zaman..

    paling bagus LIM letak jwtn la… bg urg lain yg open minded yg rule DAP.. kita BANGSA MALAYSIA(cina, melayu , india)tak berjaya membentuk kerjasama yg kuat kalau org mcm lim ni ada.. dia lebih suka memboikot daripada mencari titik persefahaman..

    hero to zero… wek!!

  277. #277 by MY VIEW on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:29 pm

    Lee Wang Yen,

    1. Was there ever a chinese deputy menteri besar in Perak? There is going to be one now.

    2. Like you said, UMNO demanded. They don’t ask.

    3. The Malaysian Indians received 2 deputy CM’s posts. Do you think they will ever get them under UMNO?

    4. Let the new state governments do their job and stop speculating and create suspicions.

  278. #278 by loverboy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:29 pm

    Wang Yen..

    The reason Sultan choose the PAS is because

    1. They will always be a Islamic function in Perak and the MB must attend it and sometime need to organize it..

    2. The Malay Muslim majority in Perak will feel that their Sultan is been mocked by DAP..

    3. The PAS candicate is stated by Ngeh Khoo Kim(I think the spelling is right) is the best candidate because of his high knowledge..

    Yet, I think Wang Yen is one of the causes or agitator that he think that the Malay can’t consider other right.. Even in Islam, it is HARAM to discriminate other races.. It is the freedom of religious and we as a MALAYSIAN should be together against the corruption and evil minion of BARISAN NASIONAL especially UMNO, MCA , Gerakan and MIC..

  279. #279 by dawsheng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:29 pm

    If today as the majority in the Perak state shall make the concessions to another “majority” as oppose to principle of democracy then we must honestly do so with a clear understanding of the consequences that will follow. MCA and Gerakan has already taken the blame, with DAP becoming another scapegoat of the “bigger picture” some of the voters here demand, what will be left to choose in the next general election?

  280. #280 by Justicewanted on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:30 pm

    Good to hear the apology, and show the true spirit of Bangsa Malaysia……

  281. #281 by DAP Forever on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:31 pm

    Uncle Lim…… U R The Man!

  282. #282 by just a moment on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:31 pm

    Uncle Kit, Thank You Thank You for responding quickly.
    Pls do not repeat such mistake and ‘jump the gun’ the first time.Remember! Remember Not to take it for granted. A mistake like this may not be as easily forgiven. You know that.
    Then again, wisdom does make a difference though still learning.
    What a relieved. Yes, all ye DAP, attend this afternoon ceremony as a show of One-ness. Walk your Talk. For all of us Loving citizens will be with you in faith. DO the right thing. DO not let the
    enemies sway us in anyway. DO not listen to MCA in particular.
    They has their chances and now its time they SHUT-UP!!!
    Don’t try to be nice now. Its over-done! Just say good things about new Rakyat Government.
    Cheers Everyone.

  283. #283 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:31 pm

    Come on roza, saudara lim sudah cukup baik dan gentleman bila dia meminta maaf.

    Kalau orang UMNO dah buat salah, mana tahu minta maaf? Orang UMNO akan cakap dia betul sahaja.

    Ini kita namakan demokrasi dimana buat salah kita mengaku…

  284. #284 by leeann on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:32 pm


  285. #285 by loverboy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:33 pm

    To rozariorecardo..

    It might be true that some of the Malay voter who vote for DAP ‘makan hati’ because of his recently statement.. I, myself felt like I was slashed from the back when I heard this news..

    But, now everything have calm and the only thing that YB LKS should do now is TRY TO WIN THE MALAY VOTER HEART AGAIN!!! You have at least 4 years to do so but I doubt it will 100% succeed because Malay is always so sensitive with their heart.. Once broken, considered no more.. Hope LKS do his best!!!

  286. #286 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:35 pm

    Let’s see how things unfold. I’m inclined to think that PAS will start asserting itself and revealing their Islamisation and Islamic State policies in the near future. Let’s see how those who have urged DAP to work together with PAS will respond when that happens.

  287. #287 by elindamin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:35 pm

    the word hudud has been humialiated many times. Hudud – potong tangan. Hudud-potong jari. lol
    folks..tell u..hudud is only for Muslim…yes..only MUSLIM are executable with hudud law..

  288. #288 by woontw on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:35 pm

    Dear KS Lim,

    Please think before giving your statement to the public. At this very moment, situation are tense as there is no indications as to how DAP will manage the Perak states and implementing future government policy. By accepting, the new PAS Mentri Besar, should be a wise step, at this near future.

    Challenging the Perak Royal’s decision is not a wise one. BN will make use of this issue to propogate to theirs advantage. And this may caused racial tension.

    Respecting royals is what DAP should do. Malays and non malays are supporting the royals, as they are neutral. If you can recall, why Bersih delivered memorandum to YDP Agong and not PM? Simply because they are neutral.

    Even though, DAP won the majority seat but mutual agreement between BA still vital at this infant stage.

    Minutes ago, I read PKR will pull out from Perak government unless fair seat allocation between BA is practised.

    Please do some rational thinking and anticipate what circumstances what will happen should you want to comment….

    Thank you,

  289. #289 by loverboy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:37 pm

    Lee Wang Yen is certainly a skeptical person.. PAS-PKR-DAP will work together in their decision about PERAK..

    Do you all read at the malaysiakini(Malay version) that the PKR will be likely to pullout if the exco seat is not considered again??

  290. #290 by 3pooiwan on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:37 pm

    Dear LKS

    The Perak sultan is our former Cheif Justice (B4 lingam time of course)….. Educated one le……

    So i Do beleived in HIS judgement is good for the perak state

  291. #291 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:38 pm

    Harakah daily:

  292. #292 by alexx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:39 pm

    Dear Lee Wang Yen,

    You are sick.. Really !!!

    Did you see any one in BN sent Chinese candidate for MB selection?

    Do you know that DAP is not..will not .. and never endorsing PAS ideology?

    Did you know that the decision of new MB of perak is made by Sultan?

    Do you see any Deputy-MB before in perak?

    Did you see any MCA leader questioning about their limitation in BN?

    The only thing that you see it right is with MCA we couldn’t propose anything…. but PAS-PKR willing to discuss everything with DAP!!!

    The decision is made by Sultan, and not the selection of DAP as well as coalition. Get its clear and explain it to your Idols in another barisan… They pretend cant think and you are convinced with them…

  293. #293 by sotong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:39 pm

    This election has dealt a serious blow to BN………the party is hurting and disintergrating to being grossly unattractive and irrelevant to the well informed…hence the desperation to regain their support at all costs.

    BN’s days are numbered….let time take care of it.

  294. #294 by 1siren1 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:39 pm

    YB,Time to switch you gear because you are no longer minority opposition.Discuss within your party first before you make a statement.You can consider to form a think tank that handle political issues and public statements.Because you really don’t want these things happen in the future whereby letting people lose confidence with shocking statements.Not saying you can’t tell the truth but you have to be very careful, consider overall as factor.More flash light is pointing you now compare to the pass.Be more steady on stands and statements.This is probably a chance that could only happen once in 50years.We place high hope on you.

  295. #295 by yog7948 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:40 pm

    Forget bout uncle Lim… Read this

    What is THIS!!! Politicians taking RAKYAT for a ride?? Really can’t believe what’s happening.. SAD

  296. #296 by leeann on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:40 pm

    We young people nowadays think so properly before we act, so I hope the older generation will do the same.People can forgive but never forget. And if they do so, it will take long n hardwork to convince them to regain trust.
    I think Roza got a point, politicians cannot make mistake. That include having affairs, sex with prostitutes, homosexual etc.

  297. #297 by renaissance.my on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:40 pm

    To implement Islamic law (i.e. hudud), PAs would have to get the approval of 2/3 of the floor. I doubt that the BN @ UMNO reps would be willing to support given their “Yes boss!” mentality … So why worry about something that would be impossible to happen ???

  298. #298 by melakatoday on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:41 pm

    Lee Wang Yen,

    Turbulence expected, with the current political scenario, any Royal Consent granted on any candidate to be the next Mentri Besar of Perak by His Majesty the Sultan of Perak Sultan Azlan Shah would not be a strong government. In fact, it is a touch and go affair, both ways!

    see my breakdown of possibilities here :

  299. #299 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:41 pm

    YB Kit,

    Can DAP send a petition to State Sultans of Perak and Selangor and also to HRH DYMM SPB YDP Agung for the release of M Manoharan from detention under ISA because he has been elected by the people of Kota Alam Shah to represent them as their rep.

    Although the Home Minister and PM have incarcerated him under the ISA, the Home Minister’s boss, i.e. the Rakyat have over-ruled his decision and have voted for M.Manoharan.

    I call on you to move with great haste to get him released.

    Why Sultan’s of Perak and Selangor? Because he is being incarcerated in Perak and he was elected in a Selangor State seat.

    Please act with haste!

    Also since he is not a threat to anyone, and no charges have been made against him, he should be released immediately so he may perform his duties as an elected representative.

    I believe, the Agung, will consent to his release as the Rakyat so desires that he be released.

    The voting pattern of the rakyat will also show the Agung that the Rakyat object to BN’s heavy handed action taken against the citizens of this nation who tried to hold a peaceful gathering to submit a memo to the British High Commission, and the Palace. Excessive force was used on these peaceful gatherings. If anything, the Home Minister should sincerely apologize to the subjects of His Majesty for the Home Minister’s wrongful treatment. Detained subjects should be released forthwith.

  300. #300 by cto on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:41 pm

    emanuel Says:

    March 13th, 2008 at 13: 38.36

    DAP-PKR-PAS alliance is a marriage of convenience. At the end of the day, I do not want them to replicate BN. DAP being accomodative to PAS particularly in this scenario is like MCA giving in to UMNO. So what is the difference?


    What is the difference? Well, not much just 50 years of history on one side while on the other you have not even given it a chance . :)

    It is up to DAP/PKR/PAS to show to the voters that is not a marriage of convenience just for the election.

  301. #301 by elindamin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:41 pm


    memang dah minta maaf, tapi bak kata pepatah melayu,
    “terlajak perahu boleh diundur, terlajak kata, buruk padahnya”
    sebab sebelum ni ketiga-tiga pihak bersetuju untuk terima keputusan sultan. tapi dengan kenyataan YB LKS, sedikit sebanyak ianya mengguris hati kami, pengundi melayu yang mengenepikan calon bn untuk memangkah DAP.

    Saya sendiri pun boleh terima sekiranya bukan calon PAS yang dipilih. Tapi apapun, perkara sudah berlaku. Saya cuma berharap DAP, PKR dan PAS selepas ini lebih bijak dan matang menguruskan pentadbiran negeri masing-masing.

    Perkara ini walaupun kecil dan remeh, tapi impaknya sangat besar.

  302. #302 by jspt on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:44 pm

    We should feel happy becos we are getting the first deputy MB who are chinese.Be optimistic, PAS is not so bad and PAS also promise for not using the islamisation policies in managing Perak state.Nothing to worry.
    What we have to put more attention is the BN. Hope Lim GUan Eng talks less at this moment and will not fall into their trap.
    I also suggest that LKS should step down liao after this term.

  303. #303 by k1980 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:45 pm

    Abdullah is now reduced to being a lame duck leader. The longer he hangs on, the more damage he would inflict on his party and country.

    If Abdullah does not step down now, Malaysia will in effect have no chief executive. The whole Cabinet and indeed the entire government machinery would be consumed with a leadership struggle, both overt and covert, right till the upcoming UMNO General Assembly this August. Nothing substantive would be done, not that Abdullah was an effective executive at the best of time. Everyone would be jockeying for position. It is this uncertainty that is so corrosive to investor confidence.

    Indeed, the infighting has already begun. It starts out small, naturally enough, in the tiny state of Perlis where there is now an ugly tussle for the chief minister’s post. Soon the crisis will spread, of trying to find scapegoats for the party’s humiliations and over the dwindling goodies. It would not be pretty.

  304. #304 by rozariorecardo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:46 pm

    ni berita terbaru – PKR ancam keluar k’jaan campuran Perak…http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/79750 . PKR, PAS n DAP.. come on la..kita byk kerja perlu d buat lagi daripada bergeser pasal pembahagian jwtn exco.. kenapa la kamu org ni arrr… adui keciwa nya…. kerja tak d buat lagi tp bising pasal hal tg x penting… BODOH!!!!!

  305. #305 by stnaaron on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:46 pm

    To YB LKS… apa khabar… apa khabar semua perjuang-perjuang rocket.

    First of all you did a correct moves since most of the northen region are belong to BA governent who be the MB is not a question
    Perak,Kedah,Kelantan = PAS Selangor = PKR , Penang = DAP
    ( Resources ) = ( Administration ) = ( Finance )

    From here we can see that all BA representative must work harder for this 4 year to proof that BA manifesto are not for vote puller purposes.

    (Perak,Kelantan and Kedah ) have all the resources that BA can enhanced wealth to develop the nation which is under BA rulers and try to think about this kelantan has oil resources, perak and kedah are agricultural based states , Selangor are very close to port authority,logistic, administration for most of major multinational company and Penang will be the BA states that governed the wealth e.g finance,banking , property etc. from here the BA gang can become stronger and i do not see any major setback in your votes if you can fullfill at least 70 percent of your manifesto which you present during election campaign. Therefore
    please pre plan a head and heads on future.

    It is time for DAP to plant rocket launching platform for the PRU13

  306. #306 by Navinachendra on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:47 pm

    Well done. You have just taken away the pain from my heart.
    You had the whole country in agony for a while.

  307. #307 by bayan on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:47 pm

    Dear Yang Berkhidmat LKS

    You are the MAN !! Appreciate what you have done. It takes a great leader to admit its own mistake. Be a witness to a greatest history in the making. Drive safely to the meetings.

  308. #308 by optimuz on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:47 pm

    I don’t know what the hell is wrong with PKR-DAP…

    just read malaysiakini that PKR is threatening to pull out??!!

    Damn it! if this is the way these guys are going to screw us, the rakyat, to hell with all of you…I will not vote next time!

  309. #309 by yhongtay on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:47 pm

    dear Mr lim,
    i feel shocked when i heard your response last night.
    i tot the situation in Perak is going to be worse
    and i worried
    all the parties shd stand and make decisions togather
    and saw the apology
    this is a great action taken
    you’ll always have my support

  310. #310 by citizen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:48 pm

    I have confidence DAP leaders are gentlemen, just like Koh Tsu Koon when he offer to resign for his failure. BUT I have little confidence in the other two parties, yet. The coming four years will be the time for them to convince many of us who are not malay and muslim who voted them into power. Will they look into the interests of the non-malays and non-muslims (I’m not talking about chinese only). If so, how? if many of the unfair policies are still in place??? There is a VERY BIG question mark many of us are still wondering HOW because if the policies are not altered, it is very difficult to make significant change.

    I am very very happy at least Penang abandon the NEP. Changes will emerge very soon for Penang, but I have worries for the other opposition states.

    Though the request for MB by the Perak sultan can be treated as a special case and that many people believe He is fair and smart, He seemed to have overriden the process of democracy for religion purposes. Fair enough, we should respect that. Hope He is as smart and fair as the people has thought.

    Eventhough PAS leader is chosen as the MB of the state, I believe many of the things such as unfair policies can still be brought up to the table and I really really hope something is done about some of the policies rather than running the state as it is, it will be no difference compared to BN because you take all the SHITS leftover by BN. The people see difference face running the state, but we have the same SHITS. You get what I mean?

    No matter what, I hope the other oppositions is smart enough and don’t disappoint the people because the people do not simple vote you guys for fun.

  311. #311 by cto on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:49 pm

    Lee Wang Yen Says:

    March 13th, 2008 at 14: 35.32
    Let’s see how things unfold. I’m inclined to think that PAS will start asserting itself and revealing their Islamisation and Islamic State policies in the near future. Let’s see how those who have urged DAP to work together with PAS will respond when that happens.


    DAP choosed to align with PKR and PAS before the election. To change its tune almost immediately after the election is very bad form. If DAP does not want to work together with PAS, it should have stated so before the election not after. Otherwise, it has hoodwinked the voters and I think this is a poor move. I expect better from DAP.

  312. #312 by sotong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:49 pm

    Being hurt or offended does not give one the right to resort to intimidation, discrimination, aggression, hatred or violence!

  313. #313 by KKK on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:52 pm

    Thursday March 13, 2008
    MYT 2:48:54 PM

    Guan Eng instructs Perak assemblymen to attend swearing-in of MB


    PENANG: DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng has ordered the party’s assemblymen in Perak to attend the swearing-in of the Mentri Besar this evening even though party adviser Lim Kit Siang had earlier told them to stay away from it.

    Guan Eng said the decision was made after he had discussions with various party leaders on Wednesday night.

    He said certain things were done by the Perak DAP out of the mandate given by the national leadership.

    “That is why probably certain developments took place. I have decided, as party secretary-general, that we should deal with the party’s internal matters on a different platform,” he told reporters Thursday after attending the Penang state exco swearing-in ceremony at Dewan Sri Pinang here.

    On Wednesday, Kit Siang had said that the DAP did not agree to the appointment of PAS’ Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin as Mentri Besar, as the party had decided on Sunday night that the post should either be held by its state chief Ngeh Koo Ham or state PKR treasurer Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi.

    Perak DAP secretary Nga Kor Ming later said that the party’s elected representatives would still show up at Istana Iskandariah in Kuala Kangsar for the ceremony at 4pm.

    On Thursday morning, Kit Siang apologised to the Regent of Perak Dr Raja Nazrin Shah for his statement on Wednesday over Mohammad Nizar’s appointment.

    Guan Eng said he viewed the issue in a broader context of national interest as well as respect and loyalty to the Perak Sultan.

    “There is consistency here, in the sense that this was a directive from me as the party secretary general (for them to attend the ceremony).

    “But, the question of going outside the mandate given by the Perak state leadership will be addressed on another platform, without giving the impression that we do not respect the Sultan, as claimed by certain parties,” he said.

  314. #314 by ypmeng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:54 pm

    Dear Lim

    I read with sadness of your attitude.
    Your men were also voted in by the Malays to give you a big majority. So please stop, we cannot afford to split the Barisan Raayat. We must work together irrespective who the MB is. If we can proof that Barisan Rayaat will take over completely in the next GE or achieve greater heights.

  315. #315 by jspt on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:55 pm

    Now PKR also making noise liao about the appointment of exco. I have no confident that Barisan Rakyat is able to form the state government now. It will finally fall into BN.Hope ANwar will step in to discuss on this issue with the other 2 parties. Very sad!

  316. #316 by melakatoday on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:55 pm


    Guys KLCI at 1200

    Stop “fighting” salvage the nation more important.

    Suggestion pls!

  317. #317 by rozariorecardo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:58 pm

    showsomemercy , saya bukan fikir pasal or UMNO krn saya x pernh meyokong UMNO.. saya sendiri tau bagaimana perangai UMNO..saya bercakap mengenai kita perlu b’jwb terhadap tindakan kita demi kepentingan perpaduan…

    dan ini berita terbaru …PKR ancam keluar k’jaan campuran Perak. lagi 1 kerja bodoh!!! kamu ingat rakyat vote mereka (DAP,PAS n PKR) utk lihat ini semua? ade beberapa org dlm pakatan ini yg BODOH SOMBONG dan berpikiran taik!!! PAS ( parti majoriti melayu islam) sendiri x de masalah dgn pembahagian exco PKR pulak yg bising2…

    mereka bukan nk pikir pasal kerja tp dok begeser pasal exco … kalau pn ada rasa x puas ati cari penyelesaian sesama pakatan (DAP,PKR dan PAS) bukan suka2 buat stetament membabi buta… BODOH!!!

  318. #318 by snf2611 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 2:59 pm

    Pesanan buat semua pejuang Barisan Rakyat, jangan terpedaya dengan mainan media massa yang cuba melaga-lagakan PAS-PKR-DAP. WORK TOGETHER AS ONE!!

  319. #319 by leeann on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:00 pm

    I have a feelings tat these politicians are playing games. Even Keadilan said they would pull out of perak administration if nothing is agreed. Wat is this? they all cannot trust. Apparently there is no proper planning.


  320. #320 by dawsheng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:04 pm

    If the appointment of PAS assemblymen as MB of Perak is to show how constitutional monarchy of Malaysia should work, what more can we say? This is the reality in Malaysia.

  321. #321 by Windchime on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:04 pm

    THANK YOU YB Lim, for making this very rational decision and listening to the people.

    As I have said in my earlier comments, there will be the Chinese Ultra hardliners to convince about this MB appointment from PAS but please do things one step at a time. We understand why you are doing this but the charade must be done indoors and not let the BN have the edge again to exploit issues like these.

    There are too much to be done to let the BN media and all start their spin with the perception of the ‘crack’ at the Perak DAP. Now that, that is resolved and things are moving forward, you can all sit down and trash things behind closed doors. That is what political maturity is all about.

    Please do not let the BN media spins shred you and the rest of the DAP folks to pieces again. It is sad to see them spin stories about YB Lim Guan Eng’s statement about the NEP. They have said 50% which is to scrap the NEP but forgot conveniently to mention the other 50% which is to be to safeguard all the poor and needy INCLUDING the Malays. See what an incident like that can do?

    Anyway, we have made our point and am VERY GLAD that good sense has prevailed. All the outcry here from your supporters, me included, is a cry of concern that we may lose traction in achieving our goals, especially so when it is so early in the success coming from this historic 12GE, which need to be built on. This takes a lot of time and a lot of effort. Appearing to be disunited at this stage will only be detrimnetal to the common objective of all.

    I sincerely hope PAS will do the right thing and appoint the DAP assemblyman in Kedah to the EXCO to reflect the start of real cooperation between all the coalition parties (yes and please remember that – as on TV and most the media, they are still referring all of you as the opposition ganging together or “party pembangkang”!). I hope that YB Husam’s (PAS) call will be heard within the PAS community and that they too do the right thing to appease all Malaysians.

    THANK YOU again YB Lim. If I had sounded unkind and harsh, I too apologize. It is only my personal views and is not influenced in any way by any of the readers here. I look forward to seeing more positive developments in the coming days with PKR, PAS and DAP speaking cohesively as one!!

    Good luck YB LIm.

    Malaysia for Malaysians!


  322. #322 by misschiko on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:04 pm

    I felt relieved after hearing the news, even moved to tears. Thank you so much Mr Lim! My Chinese friend vote for PAS in DUN Sg Abong in Muar while I’m a Malay who vote for DAP in Kota Melaka n Kota Laksamana. Our candidates won!! We are worried about your previous statement but now we are both so happy and so with the rest of the people who wants the Barisan Rakyat stays unite. With 18 seats won in Perak you don’t have anything to be worried of. Ir Nizar won’t be making decisions alone because we are 1, regardless of race, don’t you worry about that.
    Thank you once again. It’s time to prove to all that we can work as a team and build up Perak. As long as we stand united in this, nothing can stop us!

  323. #323 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:05 pm

    This time round DAP Perak is really f*cked to the max. DAP Perak is the pawn in this game. First those self-claimed “RAKYAT” blasted Uncle Lim’s insight. Alright then we gave in! Let PAS take the MB! Then we can have more EXCOs as consolation..

    Then came PKR, threathen to pull out if they don’t get bigger share in EXCO seats, which were discussed and finalize even before the nomination of Perak MB. Great!

    My dear self-claimed “RAKYAT” who supports DAP…who is on the losing now??? 18 seats won boils down to nothing now. Happy everyone?

    Now it’s the time you bashers change direction for your comments outpour.. GO TO ANWAR IBRAHIM BLOG NOW! DO IT THERE LIKE WHAT YOU DID TO UNCLE LIM NOW!!!

  324. #324 by alexx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:05 pm

    Agreed with ypmeng

    No party will be successful without the support from all races.. Dun tell me all Chinese in Perak voted DAP in GE12.. Even it is true, still DAP will never be able to win some seats with the absent of Malays votes.

    Now you are barking around and dun willing to show some respect to Sultan’s decision.

    Other parties do this just to try to cut out the support to opposition coalition. And your mind just cant figure the real true by yourself judgment.

    Let me tell you again….. with BN we see no Chinese D-MB before…. without PAS still we already being declared as an Islamic country…

    WAKE UP!!!

  325. #325 by warrior213 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:06 pm

    Hi LKS,

    Rakyat already endorsed DAP, PKR & PAS for Perak and to other 4 states. We believe in you and all others to make the changes to us all in Malaysia. Let’s proof to other states that are still under BN that Barisan Rakyat is capable to do better job. This is the time for you to gain the momentum for 2012 or 2013. If you fail to do it this time, I afraid there will be no second chance.

    So put aside all differences and start to work, work and work. As you said earlier this week if Rakyat could put aside BN this time, we Rakyat could put out DAP, PKR or PAS next time around if you guys fail to deliver.

    We have work hard to lobby to make change, so hope you could also do the same work hard for Malaysia. We are feed up with all the politicking issues from the previous government. We really need to change.

    I am happy that you have apologize and to me that is a noble thing to do. Not like BN guys, they are afraid to surface and even now they are keep lying. Read MalayMail today about Khir Toyo. He is lying again.

    So let’s work together for better Malaysia.

    Satu untuk Malaysia and Malaysia untuk Semua.


  326. #326 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:07 pm

    Lee Wang Yen,

    Are you Ipohan or Perakian? Most Perakians that I have spoken to have no issue about who the MB is and where he is from. They want the opposition to get together and get on with the business of governing the nation. Period. There is much to be done.

    When the Perakians voted, be they Chinese, Indians or Malays, they voted against BN and not particularly for DAP/PAS or PKR. Do bear that in mind. The fact that most battles were ono to one against BN means that the votes were generally anti-BN. And note that the Perakians could easily vote DAP/PAS and PKR out again if they are not happy with their performance. What happened in this election is basically the feeling that anything would be better than BN.

    The Perakian are now unhappy that the outgoing governments sealed several offices with the support of the police force and took documents out. This is precisely the reason that YB Lim Kit Siang said there should be a caretaker government. The taking out of files is wrong by any measure. But I guess the BN did not know and never in their wildest dreams expected to lose. So now they need time to clear up corrupt practices dating back 50 years.

    But of course, our ACA did not send anyone to monitor it and the police worked with the corrupt ( all same boat).

    Lee Wang Yen, if you are Perakian, I hope that your file has gone missing so that you have immense problems to get what is rightfully yours.

  327. #327 by wern wern on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:07 pm

    It takes a wiseman to apologize.

    I will continue to support you.

  328. #328 by yop manjung on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:07 pm

    LKS, damaged already done with your earlier statement. The BA supporters like me were trying hard to convince our freinds and colleagues to give chance to BA to show their capability and DAP and Pas are not racist like BN…but damn you!! All this while the Malays were told by BN that DAP only care about Cina, anti-Malay…and thanks to you, they’re almost right! You have not show repect to the Malay Sultan…and tho you intention was to get the majority to hold power, but it seems that you can’t accept the Malay to be your leader! Why can’t you compromise?? Baru menang sikit sudah mahu tunjuk gila kuasa!

    Thot you’re open-minded leader, but you not better than Bush and Lee Kuan Yew…negative perception on Muslim leader…what’ve Pas done to Chinesse that you’re so worried about Pas? Have any Chinese being punished with hudud in Kelantan? You against them bcoz they ban liquor? becoz they don’t allow skirts? So you prefer drunken men, and ladies wearing sexy skirt and bra like western? You have not given them chance to rule but already make negative judgement. You are just like Umno malays who will not give chance to Dap to prove that they will be fair to all…coz their perception is Dap = anti malay.

    You’re just an Adviser, pls stick to that. Why are you trying to steal the limelight from the SecGen or the Chairman?? If you got nothing better to say, just SHUT UP! Old man, let the smarter people like your son and Karpal Singh do the talking, please.

  329. #329 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:09 pm


    Latest news just came in..PKR threathen to pull out of the BR in Perak if they don’t get more EXCO seats. Terms were agreed beforehand and now they wanted more.

    This news posted on Malaysiakini.com half an hour ago. Time to move away this Uncle Lim issue and start facing reality just created by PKR.

  330. #330 by skp2008 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:11 pm

    Hi LKS,

    First of all, I must say I am rather dissapointed as most Malaysians that you fell for what BN was waiting for so long. Now, the governement machineries, racist NGOs all over Malaysia are chewing not you but the Malay voters who gave you their vote. This effectively weakens your coalition partners, especially the more multi-racial PKR. The damage is huge and may snowball if you don’t do anything about it. Barisan lost mainly due to this snowball effect, so beware! Next why is the hurry to drop the NEP, we have lived (I am a non-Malay btw) with it for so long and there is no hurry to drop it in toto, you must convince the Malays that they have indeed got a better deal by voting the opposition through better governence and a transparent system. If you do so they themselves will find the merit to do away with it. Remember they are the citizens of this country and since they have been enjoying a certain fruit, what happens if you suddenly take it away. What will happen to a person who is somewhat brainwashed to believe that he can only walk with a crutch when you just take it away from him, he will fall, even though he can walk. As they say it is all the mind. To change peoples mind take time, it took 50 years of struggle to be where we are, so lets wait a couple of more years to slowly but surely dismantle they system with the consent of all Malaysians or else DAP will not be the loser but the millions of Malaysians who voted for you.

  331. #331 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:11 pm

    From Malaysiakini.com

    PKR threatens to pull out of Perak state gov’t
    Mar 13, 08 1:52pm

    Just as one fire has been doused in Perak over the appointment of a PAS man as the new mentri besar post, another one is taking place.

    PKR has today threatened to pull out from the Perak coalition government on hearing that eight of the 10 executive council posts will go to DAP while the remaining two going to other parties.

    In a statement issued by PKR deputy president Syed Husin Ali, the opposition party expressed its objection to “the agreement made between PAS and DAP with regards to the composition of the Perak state exco”.

    “In the spirit of sincere openness, we stress that the composition of the exco must reflect the composition of the population of Perak and represent the interests of all ethnic groups fairly,” said Syed Husin.

    “We ask that this composition be discussed again and if the composition is not altered to the satisfaction of all parties involved, PKR will not take part in the administration of Perak.”

    However, he said that PKR will honour its agreement to support the coalition government.

    According to available statistics, Malays represent 53.7 percent of the population in Perak, Chinese (31.4 percent) and Indians (13 percent).

    It is believed that an earlier agreement between the three parties was for the 10 exco posts to be distributed among them where DAP will have six, PKR two and PAS two.

    In last Saturday’s general election, the opposition won an unprecedented 31 of 59 state seats – DAP 18, while PKR has seven and PAS six. The remaining 28 are in the hands of BN, with Umno 27 and MCA 1.

    According to Syed Husin, PKR accepts Sultan Azlan Shah’s decision to appoint PAS state assemblyman, Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin, as menteri besar of Perak.

    “While at first we stressed the need to choose an individual that will be well received by the majority, we now accept the decision in the spirit of cooperation between PKR, PAS and DAP as well as in the interests of stability and harmony for Perak and for the whole of Malaysia.”

    Furore in Perak

    Yesterday, DAP supremo Lim Kit Siang created a furore when he said DAP would boycott the swearing-in ceremony today in protest against Nizar’s appointment as mentri besar.

    However, in a dramatic reversal this morning, he apologised for any offence caused to the Perak royalty over his statement, which he said was not made out of disrespect to the Perak sultan and regent.

    Meanwhile, state DAP chairperson and Sitiawan state assemblyperson Ngeh Khoo Ham told Malaysiakini that all the party’s elected representatives will attend the swearing in ceremony before the Sultan of Perak in Kuala Kangsar at 4pm.

  332. #332 by matterofchoice2008 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:12 pm

    Good decision!!! You got the support from us, the DAP supporters.

    Yes.. DO NOT LISTEN TO WHAT MCA and GERAKAN SAYS IN THE PRESS .. they are just trying to create more chaos ..
    We definitely support your decison on attending the ceremony.

    No worry please. We could assure you most of us are with you nevertheless. Some BN people or other people are just taking their chances to cause chaos…

  333. #333 by elindamin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:13 pm

    what is the problem with PKR?
    now..one issue after another.
    no wonder bn will still mocking us.

  334. #334 by k1980 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:14 pm

    Once upon a time, a rich old fellow was struck down by a serious illness. His children hastily called in 3 famous doctors, a Malay, a Chinese and an Indian to cure him.

    Now, the old ffellow could only be cured by the combined efforts of the 3 doctors working as a team. However, for reasons of prestige, each of the 3 doctors clamoured to be made head of the team.

    In the end, the old fellow died while the 3 doctors were still haggling over who should lead the team. And the children of the deceased chased the 3 of them out of the house.

  335. #335 by opp on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:15 pm


    We have all waited long for this day. You have struggled to see this new begining. Do not crumble during your moment or success .
    We understand that you are walking a tightrope with the new BA . It is definately not easy. However, whatever decision you make, do not only make it for the Chinese. Do it for the Malays, Indians and the bumiputras in Malaysia. Do it for the betterment of all of us.

    It is now PAS who has Perak. It is the BA who has Perak. Remember that.

  336. #336 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:16 pm

  337. #337 by dawsheng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:16 pm

    The sell down at KLCI is expected, it suppose to happen months before the general election on March 8. Abdullah must have interfered with it as the performance of KLCI before general election was not consistent with the movements of world market but the question is, whose money?

  338. #338 by melakatoday on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:17 pm

    He was commenting on the spread of text messages calling on the Malays to a rally at Istana Iskandariah to protest against the DAP “for challenging Malay supremacy.”


    See how the media twisted the word staying away for swearing ceremony as anti Sultan, anti-Melayu and some Chinese asking DAP not to work with PAS; we are slowly but surely falling into BN’s trap already.

    All be calm…….

  339. #339 by rozariorecardo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:17 pm

    saya lihat ada org2 veteren ni meyusahkan kita…semalam c lim.. sekarang c syed husin ali dari pkr…

    rasanya cara mereka berfikir ketinggalan zaman.. plz sapa2 brain wash mereka2 ini .. skrg menteliti rakyat windows vista tp mereka masih windows 98..

    saya nk p cari blog c syed .. mau kasi ‘tiaw’ dia dulu…

  340. #340 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:18 pm

    PKR campaigned against race-based politics before 8/3. But now it is urging us to take race-based considerations seriously. Perhaps Chandra Muzzafar is right.
    The unfolding of the events gets DAP into an embarrasing position that is strikingly similar to MCA/GERAKAN. As they couldn’t take their stance and had to compromise, DAP is now being forced (threatened by PKR) and urged (by many of its own supporters) to yield and compromise.

  341. #341 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:20 pm

    Dear lakshy,

    We Perakians are into some very “Deep Sh*t” now. My goodness! When is this pawning games going to stop??

  342. #342 by deekay on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:20 pm

    I’m truly disappointed with events happening in Perak. Please look at the big picture, guys.

    What is this? Protest by DAP and threaten to pull out by PKR? Please reserve your public statements and be thoughtful about it before publishing it. Please refrain to act like oppositions cos you guys no longer is one.

    If you want to show you guys are better than BN, please work together and show them you are. Look at the big picture. If the cooperation could not be attain in state level, how do you expect us to hand the country to you guys to run?

    What happen to the ceramah spirits from last week when you have one common enemy, BN?

  343. #343 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:21 pm


    What Syed Husin said is again playing to racial sentiments. We should all move away from this. But he did not say that PKR would withdraw support for the new Perak government, resulting in its collapse. Read it carefully again.

    It would only be fair to DAP to get the major share of seats as it won the most seats. Note that due to the peculiar situation, it was even unable to get an MB position despite having the most seats.

    But lets move away from racial politics. Otherwise we are no different from the BN that we have replaced. Are we saying that the Chinese and Indian Exco members will not look after the rights of Malays who voted them into power? That would be a sure recipe for disaster, and a sure way to guarantee that BN will return to power with even stronger race based politics.

    Just like AAB once said he is a PM of all Malaysians (before changing his tune), the Exco represent all the rakyat; they are not Exco for Malays/Chinese or Indians separately. Lets work beyond racial lines and show what Malaysians are capable of. We in Perak can do it. The Rakyat are willing, why are you Politicians squabbling unnecessarily?

    Its only BN that has been operating along racial lines. Lets show our maturity and move away form this.

  344. #344 by Yazrine on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:22 pm

    Y.B LKS,

    This is a time when DAP,PAS & PKR must stand together, united with one voice. The leaders need to be strong and show wisdom and courage.

    We are all praying that all goes well and common sense prevail.


  345. #345 by dapforever on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:22 pm

    At the moment, i think DAP have to unite with PKR or PAS. It’s due to the government trying to take advantages by mislead the people due to some minor issues within the barisan alternative. But frankly, i wish DAP to rule Perak as this is what most people in Perak vote DAP as DAP has more seats.

  346. #346 by alimi on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:24 pm

    Huhhhh. Lega rasanya bila dengo kemelut dah settle. Show to all Malaysia.

  347. #347 by RocketDAP on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:24 pm

    “MYT 2:48:54 PM
    Guan Eng instructs Perak assemblymen to attend swearing-in of MB”

    I sincerely hope that DAP attend the ceremony.

  348. #348 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:26 pm

    there are two views ( two sides of a coin ) in this episode of the perak menteri besar. i can feel the tsunami of generous and great sacrifices offered here. i can feel the tsunami of being the good samanritan and humbled beings. i can feel that praises heap on kit siang over his repentence of statement. i can feel that he is now a wiser man.


    that the dap ( as a party that won the most state seats in perak is history and irrelevant .)

    that the dap ( is only a chinese party like mca and advocate only ketuanan cina) if it at all possible.

    that kit siang has shown disrespect to the DYMM Sultan and is perceived as rude.

    in my heart of heart, kit siang i feel so sorry for dap.

    HRH the Sultan of whichever states is the sultan for all malaysians.
    if this is the case, the election results must be addressed and translated to a fair and reasonable appointment of the mb. ( HOWEVER – IT IS UNDER THE STATE CONSTITUTION THAT THE MB FROM THE STATE MUST BE A MALAY ) . than our forefathers have already decided for the future generations that MALAYS MUST LEAD. so dont blame the Sultan. ( blame those who drafted the constitution ).i suggest that every states constitution be checked and read and reread to find the STATED CLAUSE. so we are prepared that MALAYS MUST LEAD, or as in Selangor, the deputy mb should preferably be a malay too as reported .

    racial politics will be here to stay in MALAYSIA, AND BANGSA MALAYSIA IS STILLBORN. if we so gracious to ask kit siang to apologise, than we must also be gracious to accept THIS FACT.

    In the next snap election, which bn will called within two/three years, those who are dead – are dead, but those who are still living must remember that besides the shout of ‘reformasi ‘ and equality and transparency , make very sure , dap takes on umno and pas takes on mca and pkr takes on mic. THIS WILL THAN BE THE MOTHER OF ALL ELECTIONS. will it happened ? NO. it will be the same grandmother goose situation. THIS IS THE REAL LITMUS TEST OF NON RACIAL BA/BN.

    i am not too sure how many of us voted here, and even is a registered voter. but i am a voter and did vote. with 15million eligible voters, we have only 10.5 million. PATHETIC !

    i respect the Sultan’ s decision, but the fools that submitted the three names have betrayed the voters choice. and btw, kit siang , you are wise enough to know that there is NO LEARNING CURVE IN POLITICS.


  349. #349 by max2811 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:26 pm

    What the f*ck is happening? Now PKR is threatening to withdraw bcos it is not given 2 Exco seats!!

  350. #350 by eyuppie on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:27 pm

    MCA is correct. As Ong Ka Chuan said, “Perak’s voters has been cheated by the Opposition”! Giving PAS to lead the coalition will cause chaos as PAS will try to make Perak a Islamic State.

    In the Star Online today (13/03), the incoming PAS MB said, “On concerns over the implementation of Islamic rules, he said the policies would take into account the people’s interests”. This means that the PAS MB has the intention to turn Perak into a Islamic State. If it happens, definitely the next general election, Barisan Nasional will WIN back Perak!

    Uncle Lim knows and understand well. To save the Opposition and to build up the confidence of the people so that the Opposition can continue to rule Perak, the Perak MB must either comes from DAP or PKR and NOT from PAS!

  351. #351 by CTZ on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:28 pm

    It took us 50 years to reach this stage. Changes don’t just happen overnight!
    Our Sultan and the Regent are very wise to make this decision!

  352. #352 by Short-sleeve on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:28 pm


    Please listen to the rakyat wishes, please. We all have come a long way. Dont let UMNO-BN turn us against each other.

    As a chinese, myself, I have no problem with the MB from Perak from PAS, because I dont see the guy as a malay. I see him as a Malaysian. Whether he is yellow, green or blue does not matter. Lets the true spirit of Malaysian Malaysia prevail.

  353. #353 by limkamput on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:28 pm

    Mr Lee WY, I think many have heard you loud and clear. We can appreciate your arguments. But I guess it is a little too late now for this particular case, i.e the appointment of Perak MB. How can the DAP CEC be so careless and not aware of the statement jointly made by the three parties to allow HRH the make the ultimate choice. So, please just cool it for a time being and see what happen next.


  354. #354 by musyu99 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:29 pm

    Ok lah, PKR merajuk tak mahu jadi sebahagian dari Pentadbiran Perak hanya kerana tak puas hati pembahagian exco yang tak adil menurut mereka. Tetapi akan tetap bersama dalam pakatan PKR/DAP/PAS bagi membentuk sebuah kerajaan gabungan/pakatan bersama.

    Tak ada masalah pun disini. Apa mahu kecoh-kecoh. Ini perkara biasa. Kalau PKR tolak jawatan Exco hanya kerana tak puas hati pembahagian, biar dia lah. Sekurang-kurangnya kita dapat lihat warna sebenar PKR ni. Mereka bukan saja berminat nak jadi Adun tapi sasaran untuk jadi Exco. Dah kemaruk sangat nak jadi Exco. Kalau jadi Adun biasa tanpa jadi ahli Exco tak boleh berkhidmat dengan baik kepada rakyat kah?

    Macam perangai budak-budak pulak berebut jawatan.

    Bikin malu saja….

  355. #355 by RocketDAP on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:30 pm

    “PKR threatens to pull out of Perak state gov’t
    Mar 13, 08 1:52pm ”

    Looks like the Opposition Coalition don’t really have an understanding amongst themselves. A real pity. A historic win being marred by the parties pettiness.

  356. #356 by musyu99 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:31 pm

    Kalau perkara kecil-kecil macam ini pun tak boleh nak diselesaikan secara baik… cita-cita untuk wujudkan Kabinet bayangan jadi angan-angan mat jenin saja lah BR…

  357. #357 by chanjoe on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:31 pm

    Like I said…the damage is done. Its illogical that PKR is left with the crumbs. PKR got more seats than PAS but they got only 2 EXCO seats…..
    I am not PKR member but things have to be fair. We don’t mind PAS being the MB but pls set things fair.
    Just as I have said before….I won’t be surprise that in the next few days, few BA ADUNs will jump ship to BN and this may include even DAP ADUNs and then BN will be the Govt again in Peraqk and all our efforts in voting for BA will go down the drain….
    Perak voters are not knocking their heads agst the wall for giving BA so many seats but can’t even agree amongst themselves to have a good share distribution of EXCO seats.
    What a WASTE!!!!!!

  358. #358 by u2 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:33 pm

    wise choice, you looked at the bigger picture.
    now let’s show everyone what we all can do….

  359. #359 by MY VIEW on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:33 pm

    The best formula for the state exco will be 7-2-1. ( DAP-PKR-PAS). PAS which is having the least State assemblymen should be given 1 seat. Afterall, PAS was gieven the MB position already. Currently, PKR is not given any seat in the state exco. No wonder, they want to pull out.

  360. #360 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:34 pm

    The irony is…our beloved Perak state got so famous this fews days…for the wrong reason!

    Hope such publicity can create more awareness of Perak and bring in more revenue in the future. >.<” sigh…

  361. #361 by highhand on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:35 pm

    we want fireworks……………

  362. #362 by matterofchoice2008 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:35 pm

    Dear YB Lim,
    Please listen carefully here. We are DAP supporters. Most of us understand the situation that you face in this case. We are actually OK with any open-minded MB be it from DAP, PKR or even PAS. Please do not get too worried by the situation where too many people saying too many things.
    We think the most important things are that:-
    1) In Penang where Guan Eng is the CM, DAP should exercise an open-minded, good and transparent leadership in Penang state government.
    2) In Perak where DAP man is the Deputy MB, DAP play a heavy role in Perak state government in achieving a state government that is open-minded, good and transparent.
    3) In Selangor, DAP play a substantial role in Selangor state government in achieving a state government that is open-minded, good and transparent.
    If you could the points 1 to 3, we could assure you that DAP would only get greater support in the next General Election. At least we would garner more support for DAP in the next General Election.

  363. #363 by ncysan on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:35 pm

    may i know state constitution is power over (over power) the malaysia constitution?

    malaysia constitution is no say national government PM must be belong which race ? why perak constution over power ?

    who can let me know the answer ?

  364. #364 by why on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:36 pm

    DAP. Please prove to the rakyat that you are sincere in your pursuit of opposition unity. After all, what happened to your idea of Bangsa Malaysia? I hope that you will work together with PAS and PKR. Political seats and positions should take a backseat. Prove that you are different from BN! Apologise to the rakyat. This debacle has caused a lot of misunderstanding and resentment.

  365. #365 by Luther on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:36 pm

    Fellow BR supporter please see what happen in this blog:

  366. #366 by jus legitimum on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:37 pm

    LKS is great.He wanted to prevent the chinese community from falling into the trap of thinking that DAP is working in alliance with the pro islam Pas.Do not be misled by opportunistic and false allegations made by certain MCA leaders like OKC during this critical period.LKS is no racist.He has already made it very clearly that either DAP or PKR should be appointed the Perak MB.But alas,the Sultan’s choice is ultimate and it has to be respected.

  367. #367 by savedap on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:37 pm

    when barisan rakyat is talking about the equal rights of the malaysian, our sultan still think about malay’s rights. It really disappointed.

  368. #368 by ariana on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:39 pm

    to everyone who claims to be malaysian

    please, i dont get it. we keep saying that we voted BN out because they are outdated, still wanting to practice racial politics. we have the nerve to say we are the new generation, that we want a better malaysian for all.

    so why all these non-sense with “we chinese voted dap; dap is majority so dap shouls be appointed mb”.. mind you, these do not only come from sir lim, these come from so called malaysian for justice.

    come on people. face the fact. u honestly think that because u , and only u chinese voted fro dap, so dap won? haha.. berpijaklah di bumi nyata… malays also did vote for dap, not because dap is a predominantly chinese party, but we believe in justice for all.. indians voted for pas, does that mean they suddenly become muslim? no.. obviously no.. its because we, malaysian, we believe is a fair and just state, good governance..

    i support mr lim guan eng not because he is a chinese, but because i believe he can manage penang well.. bringing prosperity to all, major or minor. i like tian hua because he speaks up for justice for everyone, not just the chinese. i look up to nik aziz because he practice what he preaches, justice to all. ask those chinese in kelantan. and i am an engineer, of course i want the country’s economy to soar, but so does our leaders in pas, ir nizar for one, and leaders in pkr tan sri khalid for instance, as well as in dap, economy is among the issues brought up during your ceramah, right?

    so, if we malays are willing to do away with ‘melayu’, and work towards the betterment of our malaysia, i seriously hope chinese stop being “we are chinese, we help only our community” or what not, and the indians “we must fight for our rights, lets hold another hindraf rally”… its time to move forward. we are all here to stay, like it or not, face that. malays, chinese, indians, other races, we are all here to stay. so lets work hand in hand, and stop this malay chinese indian (other races) sentiment. come on.. sudah sudah lah tu.. jadilah org yang matang. our counterparts worldwide is moving into globalisation, yet we in malaysia still.. ko cina, aku melayu, dia india.. sudah lah, cukup lah..

  369. #369 by limkamput on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:39 pm

    Can we suggest here and ask those obstinate heads to take heed:
    Pas – MB of Perak
    DAP – 8 EXCO Members
    PKR – 2 EXCO Members
    and get on with the work NOW!

  370. #370 by leeann on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:39 pm

    looks like BN is coming in. these kids are fighting like kindergardens.

  371. #371 by kkc on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:39 pm

    pls pls, DAP/PKR/PAS. go and dissolve DAP/PKR/PAS and make a Barisan Rakyat party. If not, next election, no one will vote for you guys.

  372. #372 by rocketintoparliment on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:42 pm

    This is the biggest joke of the year for us voters or rakyats. First, we have the sleepy BN guys running the country and we all thought that by voting for change, things will change. But in reality, all are the same as before coming into power.. DAP & PKR talk this and that and we the rakyat believes in them. But once in power… they behave the same as any BN or UMNO guys… terrible.

    Today, in Perak.. only a state, we can see all their true colours coming out. Boycotting lah, pull out from partnership lah.. My god, what would happen to Malaysia if you guys won the elections.. If only by winning a state shows your attitude and colours, i would not be surprise on the results of the next elections. PKR or DAP, go on and fight for your exco’s seats as if you keep on showing this kind of attitude,you can see the results of the next GE in front of you now. We Rakyat can trust you once but once you mislead us & the trusts gone… it will take you another 50 years to change the peception. One thing i learn in marketing, if you have nothing good to say in public… don’t say anything.

  373. #373 by limkamput on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:43 pm


  374. #374 by KKK on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:43 pm

    Should we call BN to come back?

    Hope we don’t have to go to that extreme steps but it could be a possibility by the looks of thing.

    The future don’t look very bright. Real pity.

  375. #375 by Food Thought on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:44 pm

    Haiya Uncle Lim, please don’t do this thing again lar. We nearly got heart attack after heard the news. Lets us be united as one Malaysian race and stay strong when facing challenges from the other side. Proof to them that they’re all wrong!

  376. #376 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:44 pm

    We should have listened to Chandra Muzzafar

  377. #377 by nahoda on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:45 pm

    I think this blog “bigdogdotcom.wordpress.com” is be end supporter but he support Dr M and especially his son Mr M as well.

  378. #378 by Democrats on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:48 pm

    I woke up on Sunday beleiving I’m now Bangsa Malaysia. After the past two days fiasco, I’m beginning to think otherwise…. I guess we still can’t see past race and political ideology. Very sad…..

    Although LKS did the right thing in apologizing and retracting its statement, I still wonder what the other politicians are saying. All those ceramah, asking us to work together as one bangsa, now we sit taking about allocations. But after the surprise victory, all said seem to have been forgotten.

    Why are all my chinese friends in Kelantan voting PAS all these while? Because Tok Guru is an excellent leader, a leader by example and walks the talk. DAP seems to be using it as a slogan and punchline. It boils down to the right candidate, not race, not how many seats each party win? wouldn’t it be great to see party with more seats giving position of power to those with less seat? If not, we are no different from the UMNO-BN government refusing any cabinet seats to the opposition? We are better than them. We should show them we are better than them.

    Hope it works out well. I hope this shakes up DAP, PAS and PKR that the hostile response shown indicates we do not support your parties but more of rejecting the current government. And like Haris Ibrahim and RPK, we will continue to voice our opinion and be the watchdogs to ensure we achieve Bangsa Malaysia. AS political leaders, you should start looking into you team, and weed out those kiasu, calculative and racist people. Hypocrites are not acceptable. The ideals must stand……

  379. #379 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:48 pm

    If DAP has to yield to PKR and PAS, it does not matter whether Perak is ruled by UMNO-MCA-GERANKAN-MIC-PPP or PAS-PKR-DAP. In either case, race-based politics and Ketuanan Melayu and Islam still reign. The only difference is that the former is proven corrupt while the latter is not (yet).

  380. #380 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:48 pm


    now – who is power crazy ?
    who is the puppet master?

    now that chinese and indians also voted for pkr, do to annuar what you did to kit siang.

  381. #381 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:48 pm


  382. #382 by leeann on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:49 pm

    Anyone wanna go to Kuala Kangsar Palace n see wat happen there?
    Maybe got fireworks n free satay?
    Think about it, how nice if it could be tat way, free satay, free nasi lemak n drinks for all, celebrating.
    Where is the Malaysian spirit?
    Work it out !!!! Where is Anwar? Hiding? Show your face.

  383. #383 by MY VIEW on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:49 pm

    Lee Wang Yen Says:

    March 13th, 2008 at 15: 44.38
    We should have listened to Chandra Muzzafar


    Why do you like to listen to oppositions?

  384. #384 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:50 pm

    well said LEE WANG YEN.

  385. #385 by chanjoe on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:50 pm

    There you go…Its confirmed that PKR does not get any seats in the Perak Govt and they are opting out of the Perak govt. In such case the DAP+PAS Govt will collapse at anytime. PLease get the damaged repaired before some ADUNs jump ship to Bn and Bn becomes the new Govt.

    This is a VERY URGENT!!!!! message…DAP>>>pls get noticed…

  386. #386 by AntiRacialDiscrimination on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:53 pm

    ANWAR IBRAHIM starts to change his color now. Chandra Muzzafar was right. Lets vote the PKR out in the next GE, but then DAP will be wiped out as well.

  387. #387 by GenerationBaru on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:53 pm

    Your previous statement was a shock to me. And I am still in shock. Whatever apology you send to us, I will always reassess my priority of giving my vote to you!

  388. #388 by boh-liao on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 3:57 pm

    BN is working furiously to buy two Perak ahli DUN (any two from DAP, PKR, and PAS) to jump like a toad to become BN Perak ahli DUN – to change from the current 28 BN : 31 DAP/PKR/PAS to 30 BN : 29 DAP/PKR/PAS!

    With the right price, a politician will sell their soul and their father/mother/wife/husband!

    So, the drama has not reached its climax!

  389. #389 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:01 pm

    That is why I said that the Perak MB issue set a dangerous precedence. The post itself is not really a big deal, but it has serious implications, both for the political principles of anti-race-based politics and meritocracy, and the future working relationship between DAP, PAS, and PKR.
    If Malay rights and sensitivities are cited in the MB issue, it will be (and is now being) cited in the EXCO issues, and will be in future policies etc. If it is right, as so many people here say, for DAP to compromise for ‘the big picture’ on the MB issue, it should also compromise on future policies, for ‘the big picture’ and the realities of race-based politics. In that case, DAP will not be able to implement its own political ideology, which is what we have supported them for.

  390. #390 by Jonny on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:02 pm

    Now is the time for the coalition to stand together as 1.

    Uncle Kit, please listen to the voices of the people.

    As it was very hard for the Malays to vote for DAP, it too was very hard for the Chinese to vote for PAS. But in the end, it was a victory of the people!

    We want change! And we want people who can deliver. Honourable. Trustworthy. Clean.

    Please – do not wish for any of you to betray our trust in you.

    Chinese/Malay/Indian/Iban/Kadazan/Dusun/Sikh it all doesn’t matter. Color of the skin doesn’t matter. We want a smart move for the coalition to go stronger.

    You can’t fight against BN media.

  391. #391 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:05 pm

    The following is taken from Anwar’s blog
    Pendirian KeADILan Mengenai Perak

    Namun, kami tidak bersetuju dengan persetujuan yang telah dibuat oleh PAS dengan DAP tentang komposisi Exco Negeri Perak di mana lapan kerusi Exco diperuntukkan untuk DAP dan dua selainnya untuk parti lain. Kami dengan ikhlas menegaskan bahawa komposisi Exco ini sepatutnya mencerminkan komposisi bilangan penduduk dan mewakili kepentingan semua kaum dengan saksama. Semua parti hendaklah peka kepada harapan serta sentimen rakyat.

    Kami meminta komposisi ini dibincang semula dan sekiranya tidak diubah dengan memuaskan bagi semua pihak, KeADILan tidak akan menyertai pentadbiran negeri Perak.

    Dr. Syed Husin Ali
    Timbalan Presiden
    Parti Keadilan Rakyat

  392. #392 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:05 pm

    Kami meminta komposisi ini dibincang semula dan sekiranya tidak diubah dengan memuaskan bagi semua pihak, KeADILan tidak akan menyertai pentadbiran negeri Perak.

  393. #393 by roketmalaysia on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:06 pm

    Please Uncle Lim,

    Don’t make mistake again, rakyat is the first priority in your mind not other personal matter. If any happen again, i think rakyat goes to BN and also me.

  394. #394 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:12 pm

    Possible scenario:
    Namun, kami tidak bersetuju dengan perbantahan DAP mengenai policy X, Y, Z (related to Islamic state and Islamisation). Kami dengan ikhlas menegaskan bahawa policy yang dijalankan sepatutnya mencerminkan komposisi bilangan penduduk and mewakili kepentingan agama mereka. Majoriti penduduk Perak beragama Islam, and mereka memerlukan policy X, Y, Z. DAP and supporters harus menghormati…

  395. #395 by RealWorld on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:13 pm

    Hello all Opposition supporters,

    Congrats on your recent big win.

    I accept the wishes of the rakyat and now lets see how the Opposition perform.

  396. #396 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:13 pm

    sekiranya perbantahan DAP tidak ditarik, Kami (PAS or/and Keadilan) akan tarik diri dari kerajaan negeri…

  397. #397 by atlk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:14 pm

    i hereby would like to unofficially announce uncle kit as the top blogger in malaysia!!!!!! yay!!

  398. #398 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:15 pm

    the possible scenario should illustrate what I meant by ‘dangerous precedence’

  399. #399 by boh-liao on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:18 pm

    The Internet is here to stay!

    As shown in the 12th GE, the Internet is mightier than the keris!

    What is written in or loaded on the Internet can, on one hand, work wonders and uplift a person, and, on the other hand, destroy the same person.

    So, before we click ‘Enter’, we should think, think, think! We may be one click away from an eternal disaster!

    Once a message is uploaded onto the Internet, it becomes a public property for all to see. It has its own life in the borderless cyberspace and gets replicated exponentially. It spreads around the world within a short time. It may be one’s worst nightmare that returns to haunt one endlessly!

  400. #400 by stnaaron on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:20 pm

    to all leader !!! please ensure all parliament seat are mounted will floor plug…. cos after this parliament will goncang goncang…. i can feel the vibration now….

  401. #401 by simsimsim on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:20 pm

    bravo !!! Mr Lim and DAP… to attend the swearing in ceremony… BUT what game is PKR playing now ?? pull out from the …..

  402. #402 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:21 pm

    WY Lee,

    Are u a Perakian?

  403. #403 by zay69 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:21 pm

    MR LKS,

    Pls be cooperative with other parties in BA. We want Perak to be the one that is truly ruled by a collective agreement amongst the opposition parties and examplary that BA can really work and not ‘syok-syok’ as said by PM.

  404. #404 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:23 pm

    WY Lee,

    Dont simply cut and paste news items to confuse bloggers. You must be a Gerakan supporter out to cause problems here after your masters did badly huh? Well I pity you for your support but most of us here are supporters of Malaysia, and not DAP per se.

    PAS and DAP have not sat and discussed the share of EXCO seats, so dont spread bad rumours here.

  405. #405 by Jonny on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:23 pm

    Pengalaman luas aset utama Nizar terajui Kerajaan Negeri Perak

    Johari Jaafar
    Thu | Mar 13, 08 | 12:46:32 pm MYT

    Mengenali Menteri Besar Perak yang baru, Ir Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin, beliau dilahirkan pada 17 Mac 1957 di Kampung Air Hitam Labu, Kampar Perak. Beliau telah mendapat pendidikan awal di Kampar, kemudiaannya meneruskan persekolahan di Sekolah Menengah Anglo Chinese, Kampar.

    Selepas itu menyambung pelajaranya di Sekolah Menengah Teknik, Persiaran Brash, Ipoh. Pada tahun 1972 beliau mengambil Advance Level (A Level) di Norwich City College Of Arts & Technology Norwich, Norfolk, England.

    ImageBeliau merupakan lulusan Sarjana Muda Sains Kejuruteraan Mekanikal dari University Of Aston di Brimingham, United Kingdom. Sekembalinya ke tanahair, beliau bekerja di beberapa agensi kerajaan termasuk Jabatan Kerja Raya bahagian bengkel dan kuari, Perbadanan Pembangunan Bandar (UDA – Daya Urus), Perbadanan Pembangunan Pulau Pinang.

    Beliau berpengalaman luas dalam menjalankan beberapa projek besar negara. Antaranya Projek Dayabumi fasa 2 & 3 pada tahun 1983, projek Pusat Islam (BAHES, Jabatan Perdana Menteri (1984), projek Wisma Darul Iman, Kuala Terengganu (1985), pengurusan bangunan-bangunan kerajaan dan swasta termasuk KOMTAR, Bangunan Persekutuan Gunasama, pusat membeli belah dan pengurusan semua lif di hospital Kerajaan Negeri Perak, Pulau Pinang, Kedah, Perlis sehingga kini.

    Sebelum dilantik menjadi Menteri Besar beliau merupakan Pengarah Urusan di beberapa firma swasta. Di luar negara pula beliau banyak menjalankan beberapa projek di beberapa buah negara, antara di Birmingham, United Kingdom, Zug Switzerland, Miano Italy, Bangkok Thailand, Sdyney dan Goldcoast Australia, Doha Qatar dan Tehran, Iran.

    Dalam bidang politik pula, beliau berkecimpung dengan PAS dengan memegang Ahli Jawatankuasa PAS kawasan Kampar (1999 – 2001). Beliau menjawat jawatan Yang Dipertua PAS kawasn Kampar (2001 hingga kini). Di peringkat PAS Negeri Perak, beliau memegang jawatan Bendahari PAS Negeri (2001- 2006), Setiausaha PAS Negeri (sebelum menjadi Menteri Besar Perak).

    Walaupun beliau seorang yang berpendidikan tinggi tetapi beliau amat aktif dengan kegiatan masyarakat. Antaranya kuliah dan majlis ilmu di masjid-masjid dan surau-surau, ceramah motivasi pelajar dan institusi pengajian tinggi, menyampaikan khubah jumaat, bantuan kepada fakir miskin, mewakili PAS dalam program program kaum bukan Islam serta terlibat secara langsung dengan beberapa Badan Bukan Kerajaan (NGO).

    Beliau mempunyai lapan orang cahaya mata hasil perkongsian hidup bersama isterinya, Fatimah Taat. Anaknya pertama merupakan lulusan BA Syariah Universiti Mut’ah, Jordan. Anak kedua pula lulusan hafiz al-Quran di Universiti Mut’ah Jordan. Anak yang ketiga juga lulusan hafiz al-Quran dari Universisiti Damsyik, Syria dan Universiti Lebanon. Manakala anak yang ke empat hingga ke lapan sedang belajar di beberapa pelbagai institusi pendidikan dalam negeri.

    Menurut Setiausaha Kerja PAS Perak, Khalilul Abdul Rahman, Nizar merupakan seorang yang pemurah dan mudah bergaul dengan masyarakat dan mengambil berat masalah kakitangan di bawahnya. “Jika ada kakitangannya yang menghadapi masalah, beliau akan cepat menyekesaikan masalah temasuk masalah kewangan,” jelas Khalilul. “Sebagai ketua pejabat, beliau seorang yang peramah dengan orang ramai termasuk orang bawahannya dan beliau bersedia mendengar pandangan orang lain,” ujar beliau.

    Memperjuangkan hak dan kepentingan rakyat menjadi agenda perjuangannya, kerana itu beliau bergiat cergas di dalam Badan Bukan Kerajaan (NGO). Umpamanya Gabongan Pengguna Air Perak (GPAP).

    Keistimewaan beliau, walaupun lulusan dari luar negeri beliau mampu mengajar (buka kitab) di masjid-masjid dan suara-surau.malah beliau sendiri mampu mengelenggarakan ibadah kurban termasuk penyembelihan bintang kurban.

    Di samping itu Haji Nizar juga selain boleh berbahasa Inggeris, ia juga boleh berbahasa Cina dan Tamil. Inilah Menteri Besar yang dikehendaki oleh rakyat, mampu mentadbir, berwibawa dan mempunyai pengetahuan agama dan boleh membaca khutbah jumaat. Perkenan Sultan Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah yang memilih Mohammad Nizar sebagai Menteri Besar Perak memang tepat, oleh itu semua pihak perlu akur dengan keputusan yang dibuat oleh Sultan Perak. – mr

  406. #406 by Anok Kelate on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:24 pm

    Hey Emanuel. Watch what you say about Kelantanese. In kelantan we still can in pork and our pork markets are so much cleaner than your ipoh markets like buntong. Soetimes little piglets escape from their stys and malays here just “shoo” it away. If it happens where you live i bet there will be riots. Come to Kelntan and see for yourself. We have the most beautiful budhist temples in Malaysia. Not perakians or Penangites. So you worry that the PAS mb will pull down the brothels in Perak? By the way emanuel sounds like a guy name and you wear miniskirts? Sayz a lot about you. By the way there are still chinese gals who wear miniskirts in kelantan. You dont see them? Cos we are only i think 3% of the population. Do you see Malays at Buntong market? No right?
    Uncle kit im really sad as to what has happened. Damage has been done. Please have a private meeting with the sultan. He and his son the prince are “THE” coolest royals in Malaysia. I will always stand by you uncle kit

  407. #407 by ts16 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:24 pm


    I am utterly disgust and sad. After all these euphoria and joyfulness of the last week’s election, I finally woke up to the cruelest reality of this country: After 50 years of race politics perpetrated by the ruling party, Malaysians are just a bunch of downright racists of their own justification. The Chinese are racist, the Malay are racist, the Indian are racist… everyone is a manifesto of their communalistic chauvinism.

    Lim Kit Siang had went into trouble by propagating too much of ethnocentrism Chinese superiority during his election campaign in Perak. Now his party had done terrifically well in Perak (beyond his anticipation) and that’s why he is in dilemma. He has to make a stance of his pre-election promise to the Perak Chinese voters that DAP will never be PAS comrade when the question of Islamic State comes.

    By abiding the decision of having a PAS MB, he will have a political backslash in Perak. Now we are seeing these “having a PAS MB will turn Perak into a Islamic state!” and “We Perakian know best what Perak is, you outsiders Shut Up!” kind of rhetoric amongst Chinese voters (though not all, I must stress here). These statements could be loosely translated into the racist BN/UMNO analogy of: “Having a Chinese MB in Perak will be the HARI KIAMAT for orang Melayu!” or “We Malay know us very well and this country is a Malay land and you non-Malay Shut Up!”

    I just want to say that if no Malays that voted for DAP, DAP will not be possible to win 18 state assembly seats in Perak. Now some Perak Chinese voters sounds as if the DAP represent ONLY THE CHINESE and that’s why they must have a Chinese DAP Menteri Besar for Perak. See how the analogy works? We are no different from the UMNO/BN racist formula that we claim to hate.

    This reminds me of Raja Petra’s campaign speech for DAP not long ago in Klang. He said: All these while the UMNO, MCA and MIC has been championing that they are the “defender” of their won race, the UMNO will “mempertahankan hak Melayu”, the MCA “mempertahankan hak Cina” and MIC “mempertahankan hak India”… Then Raja Petra asked: “Nak mempertahankan dari siapa? Orang Jepun kah?” (There was a big laugh from all the audience) Raja Petra then made a very down to earth statement saying (I could not remember in verbatim, but he did say something like this): “If all respective races in Malaysia are needed to be “protected” by their respective race parties of BN, it means all races in Malaysia are actually ENEMIES!” The Chinese are the enemy of Malays and Indians. The Indians are enemy of the Chinese and Malays and Malays are the enemy of all races except the Malay race itself. How sarcastically true! And even truer, I see this completely in the “Perak MB’s fiasco” drama, courtesy of all racist Malaysians and their racist political parties. The PAS and DAP is indeed ENEMY! Now it all make sense to me, the BARISAN RAKYAT being advertise all these while are just bullshit!

    Don’t get me wrong, you may think I am Malay. Actually, I am an ethnically Chinese (I can’t choose my genetic blood, it’s not my fault). Most importantly, I am a Malaysian, I always hate to tell people my ethnicity before my nationality, but I am doing this now because Malaysia is such a racist country! I was graduated in Taiwan and I studied using Mandarin for my tertiary education. While I was in Taiwan, I voluntarily give up the status of “Oversea Chinese Student” or “??” status because I didn’t want the Taiwanese immigrant authority to see me as a “Chinese Diaspora”. I felt this is an insult to me as I am a citizen of a sovereign state call Malaysia! Not some Chinese squatters begging the mercy of other people’s nation. Though UMNO rhetoric had classed me so time after time, I refuse to give in and still fight for my dignity while I was studying in Taiwan because I truly believe in Bangsa Malaysia. Though it may be far from reality, I really hope that it could be materialized one day…

    As I insisted, the Taiwanese authority finally agreed to give me the status of “Foreign Student” or “???”. I lost all my privilege and subsidies for being a “Foreign Student” but I felt satisfied because being an “Oversea Chinese Student” is really an insult to me. While I was in Taiwan I mostly socialize with the Indonesians. This is because they speak the language closest to home and the Malaysian students studying in Taiwan speaks very little or no Bahasa Malaysia at all. I really appreciate the linguistic beauty and the affiliation of myself towards the Bahasa. Though mine version and theirs (the Indonesian) are somehow a little bit different, I really see Bahasa Malaysia as my national language and I am proud of it.

    Malaysia is no more a place that I had once knew when I came back from Taiwan. Cronyism, despotic rules, racism are festering from bad to worse. In spite of these worrying situations in Malaysia, last week’s election was really one of my happiest day. Perhaps that’s still hope after all in Malaysia, I thought. After all these excitement and joy, I started to cool down and access the situation.


    Last week’s election was just a MARRIAGE OF CONVINIENCE between the opposition parties. All races in Malaysia cast votes to the oppositions based on respective ethnic agenda that are utterly racist. It is so wrong for any analysis and reports that suggest Malaysian had finally discard the race politics. Malaysia is still a racist country, more than ever and ever it will.

    PAS, DAP and PKR are enemies just like UMNO and MCA and MIC are enemies to each other. This is because Malay, Chinese and Indian are ENEMY after all. Now Hindraf supporters are demanding Hindraf leader to be named high post in the new state government. Though I really felt sympathy towards the plight of the Indian community in Malaysia, but as far as I am concern, Hindraf is a religious centred-ethnic based movement. Just how pathetic! Another racist!

    Finally, Lim Kit Siang’s action had unmasked the very true nature of DAP. DAP is an outright opportunist political party that uses ethnic appeal just like any other Barisan Nasional racism parties such as UMNO. What a shameless party DAP is. But nevermind lah! Malaysian all like that one, all racist one! So DAP racist is acceptablelah!

    Lim Kit Siang valued his party’s interest and Chinese voters in Perak above all else, and his announcement had jeopardized and destroyed the achievement of the opposition parties in last week’s election. Now we discover how hypocrite and selfish these politicians are. For Lim Kit Siang, a simple sorry statement doesn’t help anymore as damage has been done. Lim Kit Siang will go down in history as one of the stupidest Malaysian politician. I will not vote for DAP in the coming election same as other parties because Malaysia is ultimately a RACIST COUNTRY!!!

    LONG LIVE RACISM IN MALAYSIA! Pray that we’ll destroy each other some day.

    An utterly disgusted and shattered CHINESE MALAYSIAN, now increasingly becoming a racist himself.

  408. #408 by pkrisnin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:24 pm

    Hopefully Anwar will come up with a compromise and disappoint UMNO and Lee

  409. #409 by abolisharticle153 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:24 pm

    Well, Uncle Lim, look at the bigger picture!.
    Work in the principle of Barisan Rakyat. You can’t change alone by DAP. Work for equitable Barisan! rather than a loosely form one.
    As so call our founding father already agreed on certain lopsided agreement, work toward reaching a fair equitable front.

    If you read below, maybe you should think harder on how to overcome the principles where the BN has captalised on in the past doctrine to instill fear in all and influence to secure their position. Lee Kuan Yew sure knows how to get Singapore out of it fast.

    How about we redefine it on ground of equitable and just. BN sure have to listen… in their current position.

    LKY statement

    “”According to history, Malays began to migrate to Malaysia in noticeable numbers only about 700 years ago. Of the 39 percent Malays in Malaysia today, about one-third are comparatively new immigrants like the secretary-general of UMNO, Dato’ Syed Ja’afar Albar, who came to Malaya from Indonesia just before the war at the age of more than thirty. Therefore it is wrong and illogical for a particular racial group to think that they are more justified to be called Malaysians and that the others can become Malaysian only through their favour.

    Lee criticised the government’s policies by stating that “[t]hey, the Malay, have the right as Malaysian citizens to go up to the level of training and education that the more competitive societies, the non-Malay society, has produced. That is what must be done, isn’t it? Not to feed them with this obscurantist doctrine that all they have got to do is to get Malay rights for the few special Malays and their problem has been resolved.” [7] He also lamented, “Malaysia — to whom does it belong? To Malaysians. But who are Malaysians? I hope I am, Mr Speaker, Sir. But sometimes, sitting in this chamber, I doubt whether I am allowed to be a Malaysian”


    “ There is no such thing as a racial “right” to be given special treatment. And that is not me being argumentative, it’s the Constitution. You won’t find “Malay rights” in the supreme law of our land, instead, you will find terms such as “special position” of Malays. The difference is more than semantics. A right implies something inalienable. A privilege on the other hand is a benefit, presumably given to those who need it. ”

    Through the understanding and debate we can redefine the “Malay Right” in its original meaning.

    The right should be accorded fairly to those who need it and not blindly to those who exploit it as the rich UMNO guys did.

    There are Malays who really in need, never get it for simple reason that the “Right” is exploited beyond porpotioned and its original meaning.

    The rich does not only exploited it as their god given right, but blindfold the deserving Malays.

    The “Special position” is only for those (Malays) in need and not ment blindly for all.

    Let the truth prevail!

  410. #410 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:24 pm

    …supporters for a better Malaysia for all Malaysians and …

  411. #411 by tom910 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:26 pm

    Ya I agree with the statement from KeAdilan……DAP has ruled Penang. In the state exco there is ONLY ONE MALAY REP i.e the Timbalan Ketua Menteri (but none of the Malays from PKR or PAS tried to boycott the angkat sumpah ceremony). As for Perak, DAP should agree on allocation of more seats to PKR and PAS as there are more Malays in Perak as compared to Penang. Pls don’t be greedy. If DAP just can’t be tolerate, I vote for PKR & PAS to opt out of the coalition.

  412. #412 by highhand on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:26 pm

    where is anwar when he need to smack some one ass, or get his smack………….

  413. #413 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:26 pm

    Guys, girls, ladies and gentleman please stay united. This blog is not infested with many UMNO, MCA, and Gerakan people.

    They want to see us crack and they can laugh at us later. My pledge to all, stay united and don’t react to what they want you all to do.

    Calmness is a virtue… It is not the end of the world! Stay Calm ya people!

  414. #414 by Windchime on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:27 pm

    OH NO – here we go again!

    Just when I thought the DAP/PAS MB crisis has settled down, another bigot bigwig from PKR has started this nonsense all over again.

    HELLLOOOOOOO…..Can all of you please, pleeeezzzeeeee GROW UP??? Do you need to be whip on your bare bottom before you finally realize what you all are doing?

    This is no longer a BARISAN ALTERNATIF or reformasi or whatever, it is People’s Power – BARISAN RAKYAT!! Please stick to this agenda, set aside your obnoxious and contradictory behaviour (PKR), remove your chinkiness from your China Ah Piang outlook (DAP) and the Taliban image (PAS) and start behaving like a Malaysian where you blood flowing in your bodies are all RED!!

    So tiring la….



  415. #415 by Cinapek on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:27 pm

    YB Kit,

    I was rather surprised and disappointed by the statement released. Whatver prompted it, it remains ill timed and badly handled. I am sure there is room to work it out with all parties concerned. Having fought such a hard fight to get to where the Opposition is now, I think it is silly to throw it away with petty squabbles.

    All parties should be able to see the larger picture and rise above the disagreement of the sharing of power. 100% of zero is zero. So if the members of the Opposition coalition fight among yourselves, you could end up with nothing. The people will see to that and your enemies will see to that. Let cool heads prevail and work this out amicably. This is the best chance ever for all members of the Opposition to show the rakyat how you can cooperate to look after their interest and not your own interest. If you fight in public in this manner you play right into BN’s hands. And the rakyat can see all this and punish you just like they punished BN in the next elections.

  416. #416 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:28 pm

    I’ve been supporting DAP for several years, as can be shown by my previous comments in this blog

  417. #417 by storyteller on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:28 pm

    One day at a voting for the position of the school head prefect , assistant head
    prefect and treasurer of prefects, there were 2 pacts of students in the running ( 3
    guys voted by the students to be in the running , and 2 sore losers which were
    previously administrating the prefect board ).

    This 3 guys where Ali , Atan and Ah Seng. While the 2 other guys were Mat and Ah Ba.
    Mat and Ah Ba got the support of the supremo Discipline Teacher (Mr. Ahmad).

    But no student like any of them . They wanted only Ali , Atan and Ah Seng.

    The Discipline Teacher wanted Mat and Ah Ba to be elected for the post, but couldn’t get
    the majority of the students to consent to this.

    Well what can Mat, Ah Ba and Mr. Ahmad do ? “Well if we can only get one of them,
    maybe Atan to join us !” says Mat.

    “Yeah, with Mr.Ahmad backing, tentu boleh ! ” says Ah Ba.

    Mr. Ahmad , Mat and Ah Ba then starts to plan up ways for this to happen. “Hey, what if
    they fight against each other ? They usually do you know , since primary days, that
    will sure create havoc! , but then how can we instigate them to fight with each other ?
    ” says Mr. Ahmad .

    On the other side of the school, an emergency back lane meeting between Ali , Atan and
    Ah Seng is on.

    “Hey…how how…we dunno what is going to hit us u know ? , Mr Ahmad might err…buy anyone of us to their camp lah…” says Atan.

    “Yalah, die lah…before getting elected we sure be crushed! , they will spin tales to the other students about us” says Ah Seng.

    “Although I’m just starting to like you guys, Mr. Ahmad and gang sure will instigate us to fight each other lah ” says Ali.

    The backlane meeting progresses, Ali , Atan and Ah Seng cracking their heads to find a solution.

    Out of the many ideas up their sleeves, they thought of a wise and great idea .

    “If they want a fight ! We will give them a show of fights ” says Ali.

    Somewhat confuse, Atan and Ah Seng ask in detail about the plan.

    “Well, since we have no choice and we know what is going to hit us, why not play along with them, at least if the problem arise within ourselves, we be able to control it better, rite ? ” says Ali.

    ” You mean we pretend to fight each other ? Won’t that be a bad impression on us to the students ? ” saya Atan.

    ” What choice do we have, if we don’t do this, they will probaly paint an even uglier picture on us to the students, Ali is right, if we control the problem , we can close it as easy as opening it” says Ah Seng.

    ” Ok then, lets really get into the act and lets hate each other from now till about 1 moth after we get our positions ” says Atan.

    So from that day onwards, Mr. Ahmad , Mat and Ah Ba were caught by suprise how easily the 3 students were not united. Instead of plotting new ideas to crush them, they are not capatilizing on the problems created by the fights, hoping that will bring them down.

    But funny, after each problem arise, there was a solution out of it. But Mr. Ahmad , Mat and Ah Ba still belive that it was what they were doing that brought all this “fighting” within the 3.

    Until it was too late. Atan , Ah Seng and Ali got elected to the highest post in the Prefect Board.

    Although the images of this 3 were effected in the eyes of the student, they won the students trust back by the fair and just service to them.

    Story sounds familiar anyone ? Hoping this is how it turns out.

  418. #418 by stnaaron on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:30 pm

    don’t worry we are all united lah!!!! we set a good example in cyberspace …. to be cyberspace warrior….. good work everybody….cheers….

  419. #419 by prof ipta on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:30 pm

    YB LKS,

    I from High Education University as academic staff. I’m the Barisan Rakyat supporter since 1994. But when i know and read what have do you wrote, i lost my confident and cannot trust 100% with DAP now. Although you apologize but i’m and all malay know what is the hidden feel of you and all DAP members.

    I want to let you know, Sultan and Raja Perak are not stupid people. They have higher education qualification and know who should to be MB Perak. And if you compare the achievement and academic qualification of three names MB’s candidate, Nizar is the best person to be MB.

    To be MB, is not just to have more votes but also need experiences, high education qualification, and ‘berjiwa rakyat’ for all races.

    I think malay peoples do not trust DAP anymore unless DAP member’s need to do something. I do not know what should you need to do, but you need to develop the confident from malay people about DAP again.

    Sorry YB. Be carefull before you say something.

  420. #420 by pakpandil on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:30 pm

    To all DAP, Keadilan and PAS Leaders:

    Please negotiate and sort out all the matters in the close door meeting. After that, nobody should make any more statement stating their dismayed over what has been agreed over the meeting.

    You will only give bullets for BN to shoot you. So please think careful before you say anything or release any statement.

    We all want this DAP, Keadilan and PAS coalition to work. Please proof to us. Otherwise we will vote BN in the next general election!

  421. #421 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:32 pm

    Well WY Lee, you seem to be doing a good job of disturbing the support.

    Are u Perakian?

  422. #422 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:32 pm

    I thought we asked for transparency… a bit gone overboard?

  423. #423 by leeann on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:33 pm

    PAS MB is experienced and educated person, old enough to lead the young leaders.

  424. #424 by RealWorld on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:34 pm

    Now the people of Perak can see the true colours of DAP.

    Before the election, it was very easy for DAP. They rant and bitch about the government from afar.

    And when the rakyat gave them this huge mandate, they are now tripping over themselves.

    The win got to DAP leaders’ heads. And they are now fighting for power and control with PAS & PKR. Where is that so-called teamwork??

    The rakyat must see what the real DAP & LKS.

  425. #425 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:34 pm

    Cinapek Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 16: 27.54


    Can you pls change your nickname/alias using a different email? This is racist namanya..

  426. #426 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:35 pm

    Yeah, please dont jump ship or get angry so fast. This is only the fourth day nia. Stay United like Manchester United!!! :)

  427. #427 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:36 pm

    We need conscientious and critical supporters, not blind ones. We don’t want DAP to slip into GERAKAN/MCA irrelevance by unprincipled compromise. What’s more important to me is DAP’s ideology of Malaysians first and meritocracy.

  428. #428 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:37 pm

    WY Lee,

    Kami meminta komposisi ini dibincang semula dan sekiranya tidak diubah dengan memuaskan bagi semua pihak, KeADILan tidak akan menyertai pentadbiran negeri Perak.

    This just means that PKR will not form part of the EXCO but still gives its support to the coalition so DAP/PAS/PKR still have control over Perak.

    But all of these statements are premature because the seat allocation has yet to be discussed and agreed.

    Hence as a professed DAP supporter dont rock the boat, ok.

    Perakians want the opposition to form the government here. They have had enough of BN. So dont instigate.

  429. #429 by highhand on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:37 pm

    march 13 X may 13

  430. #430 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:38 pm

    Really Real? Jeaous huh? Poor kid. Sad your masters did so badly huh? Less for you lah?

  431. #431 by kkrashid on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:41 pm

    Dear LKS,

    I am a malay muslim and registered as a PKR member. During the 2008 GE, I have voted for PAS (Adun) and DAP (parliment). Eventhough I am a Malay, I have a strong belief that only PAS, PKR and DAP can fight for better Malaysians. Eventhough I am a muslim, I have a lot of respect to your ideas and firm stand in your belief.
    Your statement to sideline PAS realy disturbs me as a Malaysian. I didnt believe what I read since I would have thought that you are fighting for better Malaysians, not based on religion or races.
    LKS, please…. we Malays supports you because we believe you can deliver. Dont spoil it.

  432. #432 by alexx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:41 pm

    ” What’s more important to me is DAP’s ideology of Malaysians first and meritocracy.” ~by Lee Wang Yen

    Ya! But from your way of arguing… You are looking more to Non-Muslim first rather than Malaysian first!

  433. #433 by leeann on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:43 pm

    Why let Sultan choose at the first place ???? It sounds like stupid crazy idea. So stupid…..

  434. #434 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:43 pm

    Malaysians first – race and religion should not be taken into considerations in appointing the Perak MB.

    Isn’t this the principle of Malaysians first?

  435. #435 by voteforDAP on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:44 pm

    I think Lee Wan Yen must be a Malay (besides having a chinese name). Do not cause trouble here. We all know that BN (comprises of UMNO, MCA, MIC, PPP etc.) lost in the election in Perak whereby the opposition go the majority state & parlimentary seats, the BN now are freaking out.

    Even now, Pak Lah cakap yang bukan-bukan trying to pull down the curtain on Guan Eng and others trying to cause havoc in Perak. The BN has its 50 glorious years. Let the opposition has theirs too.

  436. #436 by prof ipta on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:44 pm

    Please read this

    “Upacara angkat sumpah MB Perak dibatalkan”????

    I do not trust DAP anymore and also malay people. DAP had promised to give 2 excos to PKR and PAS and DAP take 7. Now DAP just want to give only one and want to take 8.

    How to trust DAP anymore?

  437. #437 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:44 pm

    Actually if you think about it, the ability to criticize each other, thats democracy.

    With BN, the component parties pick up the scraps thrown at thema nd are grateful to their political masters.

    See what happens to Sabah and Sarawak due to whom BN have remianed in power. What will happen to them? The majority Iban/Dayak/Kadazan/Bidayuh/Murut etc are ruked by minority Melanau and Malays (umno–a johnny come lately). Lets see the fate of these two states.

    Much of the oil and timber that came from these states have not gone towards developing these states. What happened one wonders? With the increase in oil prices, the 5% royalty paid to the state should increase substantially. Why is development still slow?

  438. #438 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:45 pm

    Malaysians first – given that Malaysia is muti-religious, multi-cultural, and multi-racial, it should be a secular democracy rather than an Islamic or Christian theocracy.

    Isn’t this the principle of Malaysians first?

  439. #439 by voteforDAP on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:46 pm

    Sorry to say that Sultan Azlan may not be a wise sultan. he does makes mistakes. Just like the BN. If he’s wise, he should give the Menteri Besar seat to the party that monopolize in the state seat during the 2008 election. That means… the DAP.

  440. #440 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:46 pm

    If you google ‘Wang-Yen Lee’, you’ll soon find out that I’m really a Chinese

  441. #441 by Everbright on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:49 pm

    My workplace colleagues who voted for DAP/PKR unanimously said that Uncle Lim is “nyanok”. Your stance embarassed us and we felt in our hearts that you let us down. How can a mature leader as bright as LKS made such a childish mistake? I don’t know, maybe it was lack of sleep or maybe there are too many little indians running around the DAP leadership. Too many cooks spoil the soup, I think! Remember the Victors today could be the Vanquished tomorrow. Don’t let Success get into your head. Stay humble, stay rooted to the ground and embrace change and lern to compromise. The Perak MB post is best left to the Sultan of Perak who commands everone’s utmost respect. Sorry, uncle lim. Today you have deserve a black eye. Try to learn from this mistake. The DAP/PKR/PAS have an uphill road to climb in the days and weeks to come. Good luck.

  442. #442 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:49 pm

    WY Lee,

    If the Federal Constitution says that Islam is the official religion of the nation. Then so it is.

    If the State constitution says that a Malay must be the MB, so it should be. Why fight the constitution? And why argue about something you cant change yet? Get a 2/3rds majority and have it changed. But to do that you need to work to get the 2/3rds majority right? And the way to do that is through good givernance with your partners.

    We Perakians have no issues about who the MB is. We want the work to start. There is lots to be done to undo 50 years of mis-management.

    From your not replying to my repeated question, I can only surmise that you are not a Perakian.

  443. #443 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:50 pm

    Malay and Muslim first:
    1. a Muslim Malay for PERAK MB
    2. more Exco for Malays to respect their sensitivities.

    Malaysians first:
    Race and religion should not be a consideration

  444. #444 by rozariorecardo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:50 pm

    saya sudah ‘tembak’ c syed ali d blog anuar ibrahim… saya rasa perlu ‘tembak’ mereka kerana befikiran 70an dan bertindak ikut kehendak perasaan sendiri tanpa mengambil kira perasaan BANSGA MELAYSIA (melayu, cina , india)..

    that y saya katakan… ada org2 vateren ( bukan semua) hanya mengganggu perikatan yg kita bentuk. mereka ini umpama virus ..

  445. #445 by pkrisnin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:51 pm

    hey friend what century you living in. DAP needs PAS and PKR.
    PAS and PKR are 100 times better than UMNO. What crap did UMNO give MCA or MIC. Atleast in Perak DAP can be part of the EXCO, together bringing development to the Perak people. Who is MB is not breaking the pack. Giving UMNO control is not an option.

  446. #446 by budak on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:51 pm

    YB Kit,

    I understand your disappointment on PAS as Perak MB and there isnt any negotiation being discussed earlier… but God will, we was granted a PAS MB for Perak and we must obey the LAWS…

    I believe Nizar will discuss with Nga and Ngeh before taking any action as DAP is the leading party which PEOPLE of Perak had chosen… dont go against the PEOPLE will and like… DAP Selamatkan Perak, from corruption, cronysim, nepotism and “iron-fist” UMNO/BN..!

    ask MCA Ong Ka Chuan to shut his bloody mouth..! BN fallen because of his type of “leaders”..!

  447. #447 by Dr. W on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:51 pm

    Folks, ignore the worm.

  448. #448 by ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:53 pm

    can we stop bashing each other and keep to the agenda.


    kindly inteprete this statement.

  449. #449 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:53 pm

    Gone. Malaysiakini latest report.

    breaking news updated 4.45pm In yet another dramatic twist to the formation new state government in Perak, the swearing-in for Mentri Besar Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin has been cancelled. more

  450. #450 by Libra2 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:54 pm

    In yet another dramatic twist to the formation new state government in Perak, the swearing-in for Mentri Besar Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin has been cancelled.

    Mohammad Nizar, a PAS assemblyman, was to be sworn in at the Istana Iskandariah in Kuala Kangsar at 4pm today.

    However, palace officials made an announcement at 4.20pm that the ceremony had been put off. No reason was given.

    malaysiakini report

  451. #451 by alexx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:54 pm

    So I see some were blaming DAP , due to Sultan’s decision…. DAP did proposed Chinese for MB and it 1st in history…. DAP candidate managed to be 1st DMB, and you never appreciate this hard work….
    Malays-Muslim was willing to shown their support to DAP and contributed to this successfulness… still you are mentioning as long as its Nazir , yet its not for us… So in your ideology Malaysian first must lead by non-Muslim… And you are ridiculous just like your Idol in MCA…

  452. #452 by eyuppie on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:56 pm

    In the 12th General Election, 5 States go to the Opposition whereby PAS leads 2 States i.e. Kelantan and Kedah.

    Why does PAS still want to go for the Perak Mentri Besar??? This show that PAS is greedy and only think of its own interest and not the interest of the rakyat!

    PAS should not in the first place nominate its member for the Perak MB. PAS nomination has caused crack in the coalition and made the Perak Sultan did an unwise decision.

    We appeal to our beloved Uncle Lim to uphold your principle and to pursue what is the best for the Perakian. We place our trust on you.

  453. #453 by the rocketman on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:56 pm

    YB LKS,

    I’m a pure Rocket man! I’ve been voting DAP as long as I can remember. The 12th GE results really took me by surprise, and this is the day I’ve been waiting for. I was really shocked by your call to boycott the swearing-in for the Perak state Govt. YB LKS, you should look at a bigger picture, the 12th GE voters just want to reject the corrupt BN leaders and they just want to vote for the Opposition. The question of who becomes the next CM of Perak is irrelevant. For your info, I’m Chinese and I voted for PAS this GE, because I moved house.

  454. #454 by Sagaladoola on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:56 pm

    Well , Lee Wang Yen,

    What bullshit theocracy are you talking about? PAS has dropped the Islamic State thing.

    Malaysia is indeed a constitutional monarchy. The constitution allows secular democracy in choosing the citizen leaders while retaining the monarch. The Menteri Besar is part of the monarch system so therefore chosen by the monarch as a representative. The Menteri Besar acts according to the Sultan in terms of religious matters but if you talk about land issues etc., MB is subject to the secular democracy excos of which DAP is the majority because of the majority seats won.

    What is the problem? What bullshit are you talking about?

    I think you have some issues with understanding concepts.

  455. #455 by danchungs on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:57 pm

    At this juncture we are recognising a bangsa malayasia or still any different between malay MB,Chinese MB or Indian MB..etc etc etc we need the barisan Rakyat not this kinda nonesense ….which is the person we felt good and transprent enough let him be MB we need an accountable MB PLEASE

  456. #456 by malaysiatoday.com on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:57 pm

    pulau_sibu Says:

    March 13th, 2008 at 11: 14.09
    The Sultan did not make a very wise decision. In the democratic system, the majority is the winner.


    I hope you understand what is meaning of majority (more than 50%!). DAP neither is majority nor most seats.

    No party (BN is considred a party since they registered officially as alliance with SPR) won the majotity in Perak.

    In a democratic system, BN shall be the one given priority to form a new government by Perak Sultan.

    BN is gentleman enough not to submit their name to sultan, otherwise we all may have to accept BN government in Perak.

  457. #457 by tester on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:58 pm

    Please stop this greed for exco posts, DAP.

    If BN ends up running this state, my vote for the opposition will have been wasted.

    It will be diificult to forgive you guys then.

  458. #458 by Cool it on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:59 pm

    Hey! Cool it. Don’t let the big win get to your head. Especially Lim Guan Eng outburst just now on PM’s remark. That’s not the way to talk to the Prime Minister; as much as you want the people to respect the CM of Penang. Please learnt from Datuk Pairin Kitinggan of Sabah; the way the verbal assaults on each others betwen the CM and the PM will bring down the Barisan Rakyat government in Penang & other states very soon. You can’t survive even one year in power; if that’s the way things are going.
    I write this out of concern for the long term survival of the Barisan rakyat & DAP.

  459. #459 by cmbss on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 4:59 pm

    However, palace officials made an announcement at 4.20pm that the ceremony had been put off. No reason was given.

    malaysiakini report

    To allow more time for BN to negotiate or buy over DAP/PKR/PAS ADUNs?

  460. #460 by bobbywee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:00 pm

    Now The Sultan Has call to put off the ceremony, Now you are the enemy of DAP. I belive all DAP members will blame on you if the BA couldn’t form the state goverment.

    I feel is time for you to retire.

    I am a Malacca Chinese who support you for 25 years.


  461. #461 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:01 pm

    WY Lee,

    Rome was not built in a day.

    LGE had to spend time in prison for trying to bring justice for a underaged malay girl. And he could not stand for elections for a few years due to this conviction. We the rakyat would see the punishment as wrong, but he had to go through it. It is going to take time to right the system.

    The first few steps are being taken. We should all be supporting the formation of an alternative government. This is for our best interest. When we have a credible alternative government, thats when they will both be tripping over each other to do what is best for the rakyat.

  462. #462 by rocketintoparliment on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:01 pm

    wow… How about Selangor ? If DAP, PKR & PAS cannot decide on working to develop the state and to improve the lives of the rakyat… Please resign immeadiately and return the states to the rakyat to vote again. You will then see what the rakyat thinks of all this events that you guys are creating. No need to be MB or state exco members.. leave that to the BN guys and you guys can fight until the next GE and then decides on who will be the MBs if you guys can win again. All this fighting and delay in forming the state govt is not good for the economy of the country. Please RESIGN if you are not ready to lead the state & rakyat…

  463. #463 by max2811 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:02 pm

    Latest news. Swearing-in ceremony of Perak Gov is put off!! Why?

  464. #464 by kkc on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:03 pm

    DAP, if you guys cannot compromise, I think in the future, no one will vote for DAP. You’ll never come back again. Mark my word. Do it properly or DAP will be forever doomed.

  465. #465 by kkc on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:05 pm

    KUALA KANGSAR, 13 Mac: Majlis angkat sumpah Menteri Besar dan barisan Exco kerajaan negeri Perak yang baru terpaksa batal lagi hari ini apabila anggota Dewan Undangan Negeri dari PKR pula tidak berpuashati hasil dari salah faham.

    Pesuruhjaya PAS Perak, Ustaz Ahmad Awang ketika dihubungi Siasah mengesahkan perkara ini dan majlis yang sepatutnya berlangsung jam 4 petang ini (13 Mac) terpaksa ditangguhkan.

    PKR salah faham apabila menyangka mereka tidak mendapat sebarang kerusi dalam kerajaan Perak, padahal persetujuan yang dicapai adalah DAP akan mendapat 6 kerusi, PKR 3 dan PAS satu di samping MB.

    Taburan ini adalah berdasarkan bilangan Adun masing-masing dalam kerajaan bersama itu iaitu DAP mempunyai 18 anggota, PKR 7 dan PAS 6.

    “Persetujuan ini dicapai semalam antara DAP dan PAS selepas mereka dipanggil oleh Raja Muda Perak, namun tidak dipanggil PKR kerana ketika itu PKR tidak terlibat membantah,” kata Ahmad Awang.

    Hari ini, Timbalan Presiden PKR, Dr Syed Husin Ali membuat kenyataan tidak akan terlibat dalam pembentukan kerajaan negeri Perak itu.

    Pagi tadi, rombongan tujuh Adun PKR di Perak menemui Penasihat Undang-undang dan seterusnya mengadap Raja Muda Perak menyatakan bantahan mereka.

    Ketika dihubungi Siasah, Ketua Penerangan PKR, Tian Chua memaklumkan bantahan itu dibuat kerana PKR seolah-olah tidak ada sebarang kerusi dalam kerajaan Perak yang baru itu.

    Namun beliau mengaku taburan 6:3:1 dalam Exco yang baru beliau ketahui itu adalah taburan yang sangat sesuai dan boleh diterima.

  466. #466 by lkt-56 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:06 pm

    Wise decision by DAP not to boycott the swearing in ceremony of the new MB for Perak.

    Some comments seemed designed to stir up communal sentiments of the Chinese. But the majority has ignored such approach. This augers well for “A NEW DAWN” for Malaysia. :D

    Lee Wang Yen Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 14: 20.35

    The fact that DAP CEC objected to the PAS candidate for the MB post shows that PAS failed to make a collective decision when they submitted their candidate choice to the Sultan.
    What happens if PAS goes ahead in their move to implement some Islamisation policies despite the objection by DAP CEC? This Perak MB issue sets a dangerous precedence

    The road towards a NEW MALAYSIA is not expected to be smooth sailing as the three coalition partners were not ready and the “Political Tsunami” had caught not only them but the entire nation off guard. Even the ruling BN were caught off guard.


    Did you realize that for the first time you have quite a few Malay brothers visiting your blog and making encouraging comments?

  467. #467 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:06 pm

    The problem is, with PAS’s islamic state agenda that is diametrically opposed to DAP’s secular democracy and Malaysians first, and Anwar’s going back on his words against race-based politicis, do we have a credible alternative coalition here?

  468. #468 by ahmad-chong-vellu on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:06 pm

    Come-on Uncle Lim, you may jeopardise the coalition with your remarks after all the hardwork.

    PAS MB is not wielding the keris la…so..why worry? After all, we need the rocket to go to the moon maaaa…

  469. #469 by goldenscreen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:06 pm

    Guys go and read the latest from Raja Petra at http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/4292/84/

    Summary of the article:
    * Kit Siang is not DAP and DAP is not Kit Siang.
    * Power struggle in DAP Selangor for DMB between Teng, Ronnie Liu, Teresa Kok..plus demonstration by Teng’s supporters (aided by MCA & Gerakan members)
    * Perak PAS Commissioner jumped the gun and announced their candidate had been picked for MB even before announcement by Sultan. The move was not sanctioned by PAS Central Committee.
    * In Selangor, Hassan Ali of PAS was secretly negotiating with Khir Toyo to form Selangor government but talks broke down because both wanted to be MB.

    So..what the hell is going on now? Damn we’re screwed!

  470. #470 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:07 pm

    WY Lee,

    Are u Perakian?

  471. #471 by devilonpois on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:07 pm

    this is called politic…it involves ….power…therefore blindind all the people who is hunger of power…. and make everyone selfish…..haha

  472. #472 by jbozz on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:08 pm

    Hello all, we have constitution to obey. If the Sultan made his decision, we all should respect it. YB Lim Kit Siang objection is his democracy right but in the end, he respected the Sultan and leader decision. This mean YB LKS did not act on his own, he’s merely testing whether other party leader will follow his view to stop attending it.

  473. #473 by valerie1982 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:08 pm

    I think a PAS MB may create a fear on minority. First place PAS is not realy ideal candidate. I rather someone from Keadilan or DAP. Why can’t the PAS learn from Dubai? They give freedom to other races.

  474. #474 by stnaaron on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:09 pm

    jangan semua supporter risau!!!! ini power tussel in perak only main main by party BA saja ….saja saja testing party BN dan communities reaction…

  475. #475 by goldenscreen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:09 pm

    Oh did anyone read in NST that someone tried to kill Teng Chang Kim?!?!? He was crossing the road when a white vehicle with tinted glasses nearly run over him, lucky he managed to jump back. The vehicle sped off. Sounds damn fishy to me.

  476. #476 by Malay BA on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:11 pm

    True face of DAP.. oh God!.. Why did I vote for them?!

    I know YB Teng of DAP Selangor is very close to Pas supporters, the consequences was; his name was nearly dropped from DAP candidate list..

    Why DAP so scared of Pas?..

    None of my Chinese friends feel that way.. they even praise Nik Aziz for his sincerity..

    DAP need to be more moderate.. flexible.. patience..

  477. #477 by prof ipta on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:11 pm

    If you do not understand about Islam, please go back and study it. Islam law ONLY FOR MUSLIM. You, is not muslim, use civil law ok. That’s all. Simple thing that all CHINESE AND INDIAN IN MALAYSIA AND ALSO IN THE WORLD SHOULD UNDERSTAND. Also DAP leaders if you still afraid about islamic state agenda.

    Please study, understand then sure you are not reject islamic state. The problem all non muslim reject it before want to know what is the agenda first.

  478. #478 by billgates on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:12 pm

    We have all waited for this day to form the coalition government and I hope DAP do not screw it. The people has given DAP the mandate to deny BN 2/3 majority but fate has it that BN lost in Perak and this is the best chance to prove ourselves.

    I am disappointed that DAP has shown disrespect to the Sultan which is the highest institutional in the state which must be respected.

  479. #479 by rozariorecardo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:13 pm

    Yellow card for the opposition
    Posted by Raja Petra
    Thursday, 13 March 2008


    Raja Petra Kamarudin

    Lim Kit Siang is a passionate person. That is not crime I suppose because I too am a passionate person. I am passionate about my wife and I am passionate about Malaysia Today. I expect this passion is required in my line of work and to stay focused for decades on end. I have been with my wife since 1968, one year before May 13, and to spend 40 years with the same woman and still feel like we are on honeymoon does require a lot of passion. I may have been working on Malaysia Today just four years now, but it is four straight years, 365 days a year, morning till evening, with no holidays in between. And six years before that since 1998 I was working on http://www.freeanwar.com as well as my own website that carried my name. (I was hoping that after ten long, non-stop years I could go into retirement, but it now appears I have more work ahead of me compared to the first ten years before this).

    Anyway, back to that passion bit. While Kit Siang and I share the same thing in common, we are both passionate, I would like to believe that my passion is positive while I am yet to decide how to categorise the Grand Old Man of DAP’s passion. From where I am sitting, Kit Siang is passionately opposed to Islam and this does not bode well for DAP at all.

    But Kit Siang is merely the ‘non-executive’ Chairman of DAP. Is it not the Secretary-General who has executive powers instead of the Chairman? Why then is Kit Siang making all these damaging statements when in the first place he should not be the one making them. When he was the Secretary-General, he was the one running the party while Chan Man Hin, the Chairman, sat quietly in the background and did not ruffle anyone’s feathers. Now that he is the Chairman, Kit Siang should also sit quietly in the background and allow the Secretary-General to run the party like how he did before this when he was the Secretary-General. Kit Siang is not DAP and DAP is not Kit Siang. Apparently, this important fact seems to escape him.

    For more than four years now PAS has never touted the Islamic State issue. For all intents and purposes, PAS has practically dropped the Islamic State issue, though they did so silently and gave the issue the decent burial it deserves. Apparently this is still not good enough for Kit Siang. He wants PAS to stand up on a soapbox and openly declare that it is abandoning Islam. Would in that same breath Kit Siang also want PAS to abandon the ‘Islam’ word in its party name and change the name to Parti Melayu or Parti Malaysia or something like that (because that would be what it would tantamount to)?

    In the recent 2008 general election campaign, the DAP ceramahs were practically flooded with PAS flags and T-shirts. Motorcycle convoys with riders wearing PAS T-shirts and carrying PAS flags escorted the DAP candidates as they made their rounds to meet the voters and to speak at the ceramahs. Why did DAP not chase away these people? Some of them were Malays from PAS while many were Indians from Hindraf. Yes, Indians from Hindraf were wearing PAS T-shirts and carrying PAS flags at these DAP events. But no one chided these people or demanded that the ‘offensive’ PAS paraphernalia openly displayed by PAS and Hindraf activists be removed from sight.

    When DAP wants to win votes it does not mind the presence of PAS members or their T-shirts and flags. Now that it has won the votes, DAP does not want to have anything to do with PAS. Hello….brother….it does not work that way. You won with the help of PAS members so now you have to live with them as partners for at least until the next election. Then, in the next election, maybe PAS and DAP can engage in three-corner fights and we shall see who wins the most number of seats.

    In both the 1999 and 2004 general elections, DAP could only win 10 seats in Parliament and did not have enough state seats to form the government. Now, not only is DAP’s 28 Parliament seats a new record for the party, but it even won enough seats to form the state government in Penang. And this was achieved not just on anti-Islam Chinese votes alone. It required Malay and Indian votes as well to achieve this.

    DAP is not an anti-Islam Chinese party. It would get nowhere as an anti-Islam Chinese party. Even Chinese themselves do not want and will not support an anti-Islam Chinese party. Most Chinese are intelligent enough to know that DAP will not get anywhere as an anti-Islam Chinese party. So why this passionate anti-Islam stand?

    Is Kit Siang’s ‘stage-show’ merely a distraction from what ails DAP in Selangor? Supporters of Teng Chang Khim, Teresa Kok and Ronniu Liu are locked in battle. Each has their clique that wants to see their candidate installed as the Deputy Menteri Besar of Selangor. But there is no Deputy Menteri Besar post and His Highness the Sultan of Selangor will not appoint one. So why bother to squabble over who should be the candidate to fill a post that does not exist? Yesterday, Teng’s supporters held a demonstration to demand that their man gets appointed as the Deputy Menteri Besar. In spite of the announcement that there shall not be any Deputy Menteri Besar, today, they plan to hold another demonstration and MCA and Gerakan are going to send their supporters to help Teng mobilise a crowd of 10,000 to prove that his support is overwhelming. Can we please remember this name and come next election we send him to where Zakaria Deros now resides?

    Three names were submitted to His Highness the Sultan of Perak. As they could not agree who of the three should be the new Menteri Besar of Perak, they left it to Tuanku in his wisdom to decide who should be the Menteri Besar. Tuanku looked at the State Constitution and Tuanku looked at the candidates. PKR said their candidate is the least qualified of the three and it has no objections to one of the other two from PAS or DAP being selected. PKR does not want to insist on its candidate just for the sake that the Menteri Besar is a PKR man.

    Before Tuanku could decide, Ahmad Awang jumped the gun and announced that the Menteri Besar will be from PAS. Even the PAS President was caught by surprise. But the damage had been done so all he could do was hold his tongue. PKR knows that PAS Perak has a mind of its own and is practically uncontrollable. The PAS party structure is such that each state is independent, practically autonomous, unlike Umno where the President rules with an iron fist like the true dictator that he is. Even the Umno President’s son-in-law has more power than the state heads of Umno who most times would also be the Chief Minister (Menteri Besar) of that state. There is of course both good and bad in such an arrangement but there is certainly more good than bad as Umno has so many times proven.

    So PAS Perak jumped the gun. The PAS central leadership bit their lips and allowed the ‘transgression’ to pass. PKR too, in the spirit of comradeship, decided to say nothing lest it upset the delicate partnership that was in the midst of being formed and had yet to take off. But DAP decided to oppose it and to boycott the swearing in of the new government, giving the impression it was still anti-Islam in spite of the strong presence of PAS in DAP’s recent election campaign and in spite of the large number of Malay votes it garnered to be able to do as well as it did.

    PAS too has not been too honest about what happened in Perak. It realises that DAP would not be too comfortable with a PAS Menteri Besar so it stole the thunder and hoped that the ‘early announcement’ would ‘lock’ DAP and PKR and leave them no more room for negotiations. PKR was quite happy to not negotiate the issue anyway so the ‘hijacking’ was totally unnecessary. It just made matters worse when the end result was a hopping mad DAP that would rather see Perak fall back to Barisan Nasional than a PAS Menteri Besar taking charge of the state.

    In Selangor, Hassan Ali engaged in secret negotiations with Khir Toyo to explore the possibility of PAS forming an alliance with Umno to jointly rule the state. This alliance would of course exclude PKR and DAP who were going to be Menteri Besar and Deputy Menteri Besar respectively. The delay in forming the state government due to the disagreements and the DAP infighting about who should be the Deputy Menteri Besar meant that this would give Hassan and Khir time to come to an agreement. But they could not come to an agreement because both Hassan and Khir wanted to be Menteri Besar and none would back down in favour of the other.

    This is treason of the highest degree and Hassan Ali should be tied to a tree and shot. I would do that myself if not for the fact that I would like to live a couple of years longer instead of being hanged by the neck until I die before the year is out.

    The market perception is that PKR can’t be trusted. The common belief is that the people in PKR can be bought. In fact, Azalina did buy off one PKR candidate for RM1 million so that she could win the election uncontested. And in other parts of Malaysia a couple of other PKR candidates were bought off as well, the going price being RM1 million per head. But it appears like PAS and DAP are bigger slime-balls than PKR. At least PKR did not try to sabotage the forming of the Kelantan, Kedah, Penang, Perak and Selangor state governments.

    The opposition parties have disappointed more than 50% of Peninsular Malaysia voters who gave them five states and helped deny Barisan Nasional its two-thirds majority in Parliament. Consider this your yellow card. If you are not careful, Barisan Nasional can call for an election on 8 March 2011, the earliest legally allowed, and the voters will give the opposition its red card. Then the opposition can be sent back to where it came from, a dog barking at a hill (anjing salak bukit). Maybe that is all the opposition is good for. Maybe all the opposition is capable of doing is to bark at the hill while Barisan Nasional just laughs at them and asks them to go back to China or India or wherever it is that they came from.

    Lim Kit Siang said Barisan Rakyat does not exist. Hello….brother…..it does exist lah. Barisan Rakyat is the people’s front or people’s movement. This is the people’s power or makkal sakhti that we screamed at every ceramah for two weeks leading to the 8 March 2008 general election. Barisan Rakyat is not Barisan Alternatif lah. Barisan Alternatif is a two-party coalition comprising of PAS and PKR, which DAP was also once a member of. Barisan Rakyat, however, is the people’s front. It is a movement of people who support all those six political parties which endorsed THE PEOPLE’S VOICE and THE PEOPLE’S DECLARATION just before the recent general election. Barisan Alternatif, the two-party coalition (plus DAP of course) did not win the recent general election. The recent general election was won by Barisan Rakyat, the people’s movement, a coalition of all races.

    Let me tell you, my dear Kit, that Barisan Rakyat not only does exist but is also a very potent force. Barisan Rakyat will decide who gets to form the government. And Barisan Rakyat can also kick you out and change the government if you do not perform or you misbehave. And, today, Barisan Rakyat has given you a yellow card. Don’t force Barisan Rakyat to give you a red card the next time around.

    Makkal sakhti. Suara rakyat, suara keramat. People’s power.

  480. #480 by abeisye on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:14 pm

    WHAT???? cancelled, are u happy now, uncle LIM?? So, what’s next? BN on again, isn’t it. I’m malay and vote for DAP, so, actually, i’m regret of that and for sure, in next PRU13, you are not my choice anymore, thanks for showing your true face

  481. #481 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:15 pm

    Lee Wang Yen or WY Lee sounds like wily

    From wile (“ruse, trick”) + -y
    wily (comparative wilier or more wily, superlative wiliest or most wily)

    1. sly, cunning, full of tricks
    Horatio’s new girlfriend is a wily coquette and poor Horatio is too smitten to see it.
    sly, cunning

  482. #482 by jerry2008 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:15 pm

    Dear YB Lim ,

    Times has changed.It is the 21st century now. The very reason people voted for the opposition is that we wanted peaceful CHANGE..NOT INFIGHTING !!

    Please bear this in mind. This is the only chance the opposition will get to work together.Let me emphasize here.. THE LAST AND ONLY CHANCE to show that DAP-PKR-PAS can form a Barisan Rakyat , created by the rakyat for for the rakyat. Therefore we MUST STAND UNITED .If… this infighthing continues…I CAN ASSURED you that we can forget about election 2013 , the opposition WILL DISSAPEAR forever , its influence , the rakyat that supported them because people already have no confidence in the so – called Opposition pack. I can say , in 2013 , if we still don’t BUCK up now.. the opposition will loose WORST than 2004 and never to recover again.

    Allow me to be direct but DAP , PKR , PAS got the votes because the rakyat believe finally , these opposition parties has set aside their differences and form a united front , representing the rakyat to topple the corrupt government.

    Not even 4 days…not even 4 days.. the opposition has shown .. they are power hungry as well..arguing over petty matters like who the hell is going to be the Menteri Besar.. come on , grow up..can we look a little further , be more visionary ? By the time DAP uttered these , BN has already orchestrating ASSAULTS from all angles to destroy the Barisan Rakyat.. starting a full swing ASSAULT from the Mainstream Media . Look at the papers.. everyone of them are painting bad picture ( which really is … ) of rifts between the pact.
    You think everyone is like us who reads blogs..? All these will reflect back to rakyat by the mainstream media , like my parents.. who are saying they regretted voting for the opposition if this is the case.

    All the people wants to see is TEAM work !! Not I got 18 seats , the other has 6 seats , so minority can’t lead. Not over petty matters like 3 excos..you 2 excos.. but a whole working TEAM..!! A Barisan Rakyat .. regardless of race , religion !! Even if the Menteri Besar is PAS member , so what ? If he respect the Chinese and Indians.. no big deal for him to become menteri besar. Unlike BN people who discriminate.. why DAP have to complain ? Is DAP another version of the BN in another sense ?

    1st we must know DAP WILL never and can never RULE Malaysia..it is the Barisan Rakyat , the Makal Sakti that have the final say.It is the people power now , and if the people have no issue about appointing a PAS menteri besar.. why does DAP has to complain ?

    Now , I am a Chinese that has voted for DAP and I am sorry to say.. I am totally dissapointed with the intolerable infighting , power hungry parties , trying to ‘bahagi’ the spoils of the previous government. And I am ashamed that after all the ‘shouting ‘ of Makal Sakti in each of the opposition ceramahs.. where the people stoodby rain or shine , totally immerse in believing that finally the pact has come together .. this is the outcome.

    The opposition will not have an easy time for the next 5 years , let me tell you this. ALL the mainstream media will be watching us, any slight mistake they will blow it up as if the world has torn apart. And don’t even think they will even write any good things that the Opposition has done or will be doing..

    My last warning …

    If we SCREW this bigtime now.. forget about 2013 , forget about any opposition in 2013 , forget about Penang..BN will have landslide victory .. and the opposition will only have themselves to be blamed.

    Remember this YB , there’s an old chinese saying that my parents always highlight to us the children… ‘ In order to gain respect , we must first show respect 1st’ . If we want the rakyat ( Malay, Chinese , Indian ) to support us.. it is not just the fiery speeches you gave in Parliment but also the ‘heart’ you have for all you ‘soldiers ‘ and ‘ generals’ that have fought along with you .

    Please ponder upon it for the future of YB Lim Guan Eng.If you really want him to bring DAP to another level. Don’t destroy his future.


  483. #483 by ForTheFuture on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:16 pm

    Please have a look at this article:

    “Can you imagine, Malays who for a life time being told that their enemy comes in the shape of the red Rocket, putting an “X” against the Rocket? It must have been the hardest thing to do for many of them, if not most. And yet they did it.

    Paul Warren

    Kit has still not got around to feeling like DAP is now government. He still thinks he has to oppose everything!

    Kit has to realise that the DAP’s role for now and for the remaining five years is to address the senses and sensivities of all those Malays who voted for DAP, the red Rocket. ….”


  484. #484 by lakshy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:16 pm

    Good day guys. I believe that this shall end well. The rakyat of Perak want a change. It shall happen if we all will it.

  485. #485 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:17 pm

    Please don’t get into personal attacks.

    Thank you!

  486. #486 by ahluck on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:18 pm

    i so happy that the swearing is put off. shukor alhamdulilah!

    i want DAP as MB. insyallah!

  487. #487 by alexx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:18 pm

    # Lee Wang Yen Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 17: 06.14

    The problem is, with PAS’s islamic state agenda that is diametrically opposed to DAP’s secular democracy and Malaysians first, and Anwar’s going back on his words against race-based politicis, do we have a credible alternative coalition here?

    So What do you wish to say?
    Telling us that our votes to change was wrong?

    ~And I will just said.. no matter what is the agenda of any parties within this coalition… For the very least I believe that 3 of them will have equal chances to debate and to discuss for a solution…

    Still you feel that BN are the best?

    ~And I will just remind you… whatever being told by Unmo will be the decision of BN

  488. #488 by kkc on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:20 pm

    Power to the People. So once again, DAP, please walk the talk

  489. #489 by ycchai62 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:20 pm

    Although YB LKS is considered the supremo of DAP but officially LGE is the Secretary General. So, why the ultimate decision seems came from LKS rather than LGE? Is there a confusion on the hierarchy of DAP’s set up? If not, then LKS should not act in a “insubordination” manner and undermine the authority of LGE, even LGE is his son.

    If LKS continue to act in this manner the impression of DAP being one man party (DAP=LKS) will persist on and all slogan shouting will evaporate into the thin polluted air.

    Be mindful of the future and not the prize you had just won as it may worn out without u realiasing the expiry date is due.

  490. #490 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:21 pm

    ‘~And I will just remind you… whatever being told by Unmo will be the decision of BN’

    That’s why. That’s why DAP CEC’s objection to PAS’s candidate should be taken seriously.

  491. #491 by cmbss on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:21 pm

    In dealing with NEP, I think Lim Guan Eng or DAP for the matter must learn from PAS

    Look here their media strategy:-

    Kerajaan Kedah tidak tolak DEB sepenuhnya

    In one single sweeping by LGE that DAP will not implememt NEP, I think this is disaster for DAP credibility.

    The objective of NEP is good , it is only the implementation that it has failed and abuses benefiting selected cronies

    The affirmative policies to help the needy and poor is good.

    Without even having review what actually are the abuses, LGE made that sweeping statement definitely will hurt many people, (I mean those needy people)

    What need to be done to review the abuses and take immediate action.

    Make adjustment to ensure the original intention and objectives of NEP prevails.

    DAP has in its manifesto say it will give bonus RM6,000 for those household annual income less than RM6,000. so you have that intention to help the needy. So what is wrong with NEP?

    Seriously, DAP need to immediately take action to improve its PR/communication strategy.

    Look at what PAS says:-

    “Kerajaan Kedah tidak menolak Dasar Ekonomi Baru (DEB) secara total, bagaimanapun akan melalui beberapa perbincangan khusus sebelum menentukan dasar kewangan negeri yang boleh memberi manafaat kepada semua pihak.

    Menteri Besar Kedah, Ustaz Haji Azizan Abdul Razak berkata, kerajaan negeri akan mengadakan perbincangan terlebih dahulu dengan pihak Unit Perancang Ekonomi Negeri (Upen) dan pihak yang terbabit sebelum mengeluarkan satu garis panduan mengenai dasar kewangan. …”

  492. #492 by twg19492008 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:22 pm

    Br LKS

    I m sure whatever u or the present BR coalition wish 4 /hope 4 /intend doing will always be in the interests of ALL Malaysians in mind. I have the greatest faith that the Almighty will ALWAYS be with the righteous…my two cents worth
    haji muhammad bin abdullah @ tan wah guan

  493. #493 by tester on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:22 pm


    The people of Malaysia are trying to get away from communal politics. We voted opposition without worrying whether it was PAS, DAP or PKR.

    And here you are exhibiting racial/religious bias.

    Please stop it. You shouldn’t have signed the letter agreeing in the first place if you didn’t agree.

    Please, if you cannot work within this new reality, step aside.

    Thank you.

  494. #494 by ahluck on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:23 pm

    what is this! sapi punya susu lembu dapat nama!
    for a change let sapi dapat nama! that is DAP as MB for perak

  495. #495 by cwk100 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:24 pm


    Uncle Lim, you need to get over your head that you are no longer the Head of Opposition in Parliment. DAP is now a part of the government for almost 50% of Malaysians.

    Whatever issues that you have with your partners that are deemed to be sensitive should be discussed closed door. DAP insubordination should also be discussed closed door.

    We know that your thinking and some of those here are light years away, but many folks in kampungs and villages are not. This is also the reason why DAP is voted in, to bring progress to this people and in times their mindsets will change. But it definitely will not happened overnight.

    Anything happened to the common folks out there just because of your outburst, you will be remembered down the history as the fire starter and blood is in your hand.

  496. #496 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:29 pm


    The claim that Perak MB has to be a Malay Muslim is exactly what you claim to be racial and religious bias.

  497. #497 by jetaime.f on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:31 pm

    Hi All. Two main issues opined to have created the fiasco over the past few days are fear and distrust. These two element is linked to race. Having said that, Malaysia is not the only country facing this problem as this is most prevalent in certain western countries, where fear and distrusts is showered over Asians. But one can’t really generalize because not everyone in the West are of that sort.

    Take out corruption from the equation and the corrupted people, and if the common folks of Malaysia, including all opposition parties are able to work on this fear – of being suppressed, fear of being excluded , fear of discrimination and rebuild trust amongst the people, which is extremely fragile at the moment, given distrust is exacerbated by BN taking advantage to stir up a greater storm, I believe, it will lessen the burden of the oppositions such that they can transfer more of their resources and strength and focus on the most important issues on hand – economic condition. Having said that, it is difficult because some parties have extreme or selfish hidden agendas. Whilst other parties react to protect the people from the possible uprise of these unwelcome agendas. I believe everyone will need to put down their weapons and work on it………

    My other fear is, can Malaysia withstand huge unforseen shocks for example shocks caused by global economic condition, given most of the country’s resources and wealth (hard cash and not brick and mortar ie. buildings) has disappeared during the reign of the BN thus draining the Malaysian people’s pocket dry.

  498. #498 by azam on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:31 pm

    I regret some of you take Ong Ka Chuan word. Racist politics goes nowhere. Now the politics of meritocracy as DAP struggle for. The the most credential one from PAS. He was graduated from England and got primary and secondary education in chinese school. Can speak Mandarin. Can speak English.
    Don’t take MCA word. They lost in the election. Remember DAP now in the goverment. Not oppotition anymore. MCA is oppotition. Let they say what they want.

  499. #499 by ngahc on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:31 pm

    Please give us confidence that we are making the right choice for rejecting BN and given you the coalition government. However, as events unfolded in Perak reveal to us that the coalition of DAP/PKR/PAS is so fragile. Every party made threatening statements about pulling out the coalition instead of how we can work together for the betterment of rakyat. Don’t forget that you only won by very thin majority over BN. Any slip up will cause the coalition collape and give BN victory.

  500. #500 by rocketintoparliment on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:31 pm

    First DAP wanna boycott the event, now PKR wanna boycott the state govt. If there is a foreign investor wanting to invest in Perak , i guess by now they would have change their mind because no smart person would want to invest in a state where the parties who wins the election after making so many promises cannot even agree or decide on the forming of the state govt ( tday KLSE drop 30 points & the rakyat suffers again ) . Good that the event did not take place as the parties would eventually fight again in the future. I’m not sure if DAP, PKR or PAS have the guts now to hold a by election and let the rakyat decides… No need to fight anymore… let us the rakyat decides. no need campaigning days.. just choose 1 day & let the rakyat vote. i know where my vote will go now

  501. #501 by yewtzeee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:32 pm

    i think anwar is doning something at the back…
    pkr even don’t want to form coalition with dap-pas if they don’t get more exco….
    anwar is dangerous than lks and pas and even bn…

  502. #502 by yewtzeee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:32 pm


  503. #503 by Shiva on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:34 pm


    How on earth do you expect us to continue to support the opposition if you can’t even unite before getting to the starting line.

    It is time for you to evolve. You need to discard your firebrand disposition and mature. It’s time to unite and you’re now becoming part of the problem.

    Prove to us that we should vote you into power in the next GE. We’ve given you an opportunity – do not squander it!


  504. #504 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:34 pm

    Anglo Chinese School is not Chinse-language School

  505. #505 by Supporters on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:35 pm

    All of the opposition parties, stop playing around. This sure give oppurtunity to BN on taking over PERAK State Government. People votes for change. Now the change is given to DAP/PKR/PAS, but “perang saudara” among each other.

    Sit down together, discuss everything. Wait for good news

  506. #506 by rakyatmalaysia07 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:36 pm

    What laaa…maybe now the tussle is about excos ….
    I pray everything is settled fast and our Barisan Rakyat government in Perak get to work.
    Uncle Kit, Raja Petra said you are passionate….I think your passion is a passion for justice and humanity…
    Please continue to make our winnings work out…

    And guys and girls , what is this Malay visit Uncle’s blog thing?
    We are Malaysians first remember?
    I have Chinese customers , Indian customer , Malays customer , I go to Chinese shop , Indian shop Malay shop …
    I cried when my Chinese neighbour’s brother died in a accident

  507. #507 by boh-liao on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:36 pm

    Is this the beginning of the end of the so-called DAP/PKR/PAS partnership? Or, is this the end of the nascent DAP/PKR/PAS partnership?

    Are voters (the bosses) more matured than politicians?

  508. #508 by jennifer cheong on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:38 pm

    Dear leaders Lim Kit Siang,Guan Eng and all,
    Pls give our good leader Sg Pinang Mr Teng Chang Khim a chance to serve the people of Selangor as Deputy Chief Minister of Selangor!He is the best person as he has all the good experience,characteristic and leadership that DAP need to form a strong local government!Pls don’t give him up due to internal issue.Forgive him for his shortcomming if any and give him a new chance to lead in Selangor government ! Surely He can do it and he has proven it since 1995 to serve the people as state assemblyman! People of Selangor & DAP, pls support Teng!

  509. #509 by Good Spirit on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:39 pm

    YB Lim,

    I am a DAP supporter in Segambut. I was glad that DAP won the seat this GE. The Wind of Change swept over Msia with Tsunami result. I was optimistic and positive with the future in Msia after the GE. I knew there would be challenges and obstacles in carrying out the responsibilites in the various new governments of the coalition parties. The various issues that need to be addressed for example the common goals of improving the status of the multi-racial poor, working amicably with the BN to achieve this working constructively with the coalition parties, etc for the next 5 yrs.

    Before these all can start, you have made a blunder, a big blunder!!! Are you so power crazy that you have forgotten that we are in a multiracial country? Sultan Azlan Shah and his son are highly respected, educated and fair member of
    Perak royal family. You have forgotten your position!

    You may be the cause of the downfall of DAP. Where is the true Malaysian spirit that DAP talked about during the Election campaign? Just empty talk??? You have given the impression that DAP is anti-Muslim with your latest action. What a mistake!!

    The Rakyat feels some of the senior members should know when their time is up and make way for the younger generation. You are one of them. Your son is the Secretary of General of DAP and not you after all.

    What about your fellow DAP comrades, Teng and Wee? They are senior and experienced members who have contributed a lot to DAP and not being given due appreciation.

    I am very sad. What is the future of DAP now? Will any non-Chinese join DAP now? Do you realise that not only the Malays are against you now, even the Chinese??

    Anti-Melayu!! That’s not the way for a harmonious Malaysia.

    Lim Guan Eng, as Secretary General, should make his statement now to salvage DAP and its future.

    Very sad that you think you are above the Sultan!!!

  510. #510 by omo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:40 pm

    This old man did not see PKR is a challenge to DAP. PKR is trying to get more seats in the contest in Penang, Perak and Selangor. DAP seems to rule like iron hand and one can see PSM and many NGOs are under the wings of PKR. Even more and more chinese are flocking into PKR. So I rather have a PAS MB than a PKR.

    DAP cannot even exercise a simple solution if PAS decided to implement Islamic solutions. What is so complicated? Just quit and have no confidence in PAS . Just tell the people that. Even wife and parent, one can divorce or disown. Elementary LKS. You have create a big shit out of a small mound

  511. #511 by ian on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:41 pm

    I think Sultan Azlan is most wise in picking the MB from the smallest winning party. By doing so, the MB from PAS will have less power or influence to rule and must consult DAP and PKR before implementing its policies. Likewise, DAP will not be able to do everything according to its whims and fancies without the MB’s approval. Its sort of balances out the power in Perak.

    I must admit that I was shocked at Uncle Lim’s previous statement. However, after analyzing the issue more thoroughly, I think he has played his cards right throughout this entire episode.

    Just think about it…

    With the Sultan favoring PAS nominee, the old-school DAP members (predominantly Chinese) in Perak, not to mention MCA, will largely be discontented and will accuse the party for selling out to PAS. Therefore, DAP must show that they are somewhat against the idea. Doing so directly under DAP banner would have been bad. It will portray the party as shaky and cause unnecessary problems and confusion to the PKR-PAS-DAP coalition. So Uncle Lim decides to sacrifice himself by issuing his statement in his own blog and then waits for the public outcry.

    Now the old-school DAP members can see that boycotting is against public wishes. It will do more harm than good to the party. So they have no choice but to accept it.

    His next brilliant move was to get his son Guan Eng to issue out his order for the DAP assemblymen to attend the ceremony. This not only increases the popularity of Guan Eng, it also showed that he is a real leader of ALL Malaysians.

    So in the end, the real winner of this entire saga is Uncle Lim’s son.

    Not bad… not bad indeed.

  512. #512 by chanjoe on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:41 pm

    Good that the swearing in is put off now for the Perak MB. The Sultan should allow at least 2 days to BA to put their house straight and then submit 1 (ONE) name only to him for consideration of MB…not 3 names.
    The mistake made was 3 names were submitted and so he can choose anyone from the 3. Dun blame the Sultan or Regent.
    BA shld come to consensus to 1 name only for the MB post and I personally think PKR is the best of all.
    Pls dun cause any more trouble or else the frogs will start to jump and thats the end of BA govt in Perak.
    Just can’t understand why BA can’t keep their heads clear and dun be so power crazy.
    The people want a good accountable and caring govt with fair share of responsibilities all round.
    Pls come to you senses……..grow up….

  513. #513 by joejoe on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:42 pm






  514. #514 by matterofchoice2008 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:42 pm

    Lee Wang Yen,
    Don’t get carried away by your own judging capabilities. But I suggest you to think along with the implementation phase of a NEW MALAYSIA. What Malaysians want now is a CHANGE! From 8 Mar 08, there set a new dawn for Malaysia by Malaysians. But the sail to a NEW MALAYSIA won’t be so smooth and direct, there will be hiccups or even setback at times.

  515. #515 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:42 pm

    DAP CEC did not reject PAS candidate because he was a Malay or a Muslim. They rejected because they did not agree with PAS’s agenda of Islamic State.

  516. #516 by IloveMalaysiaToo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:42 pm

    I fully agree with Lee WY regarding Malaysian Malaysia meaning any malaysian CAN BE the MB, or as a matter of fact, be the PM.
    But it appeared to be too early to get this thru as evident from what is happening now.
    As a matter of principle, the party that get the most seats should be the leading person in the government UNLESS it is agreed by ALL (in the coalition) that a minority partner is to be the head. Why PAS jump the gun and wanted his man to be the MB? Has PAS got the agreement from DAP & PKR, the other parties in the coalition?

    What is happening now shows very clearly that we are far from the ideal of a malaysian Malaysia.

    As I said earlier, If we cant get what is is supposed to be due to the present limitations of our political environment, then instill good practice of fairness, transparency, accountability and incorruptible governance into the system, and until such time, then amend the constitution to remove all hindrances to a truly malaysian Malaysia.

    I do hope that this can happen in the next or the following GE.

    BTW, the Sultan of Perak, whom always have my highest regard, and being a learned person, might have this (our current local political conditions among races) consideration in his mind in deciding on the candidate for the MB post.

  517. #517 by rakyatmalaysia07 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:43 pm

    Haaiyaah don’t worry too much loh..

    I think all is teething pain maaa

    Just keep being sincere and we will get through this….

  518. #518 by joejoe on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:44 pm




  519. #519 by rwoo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:45 pm

    latest Sultan must be uncomfortable on this coalisition with the in fighting mb swearing in postponed!! check mkini

  520. #520 by gofortruth on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:45 pm

    How many times must be said & said again that it was not PAS’s Islamic ideology that won; not PKR’s Reformasi ideology that won and not DAP’s Democracy ideology that won in this PARTICULAR 12th GE. It was a simple Malaysians’ angry votes against the arrogant BN coalition. In fact if you put a real dog to stand, that K9 would also have won. Does that mean you can appoint that K9 to be MB or exco member?

    These states won are just rare “BONUSES” and also a big test on whether you the loose coalition can get together to SERVE the people. Perak Sultan just put you all to the simple test, and I’m afraid you all failed miserably still thinking that it is your own party that has won so & so many seats and you are in fightiing for control.

    In fact this is a golden opportune time to show how you can give in to the other parties and not how much you can take from it. If you can’t take care of each other how the rakyat can put their trust that you can take care of them??? Take heed or else BN will push you all out faster than you came in!!!!

    Close your doors now all you HEADS of this loose coalition parties and first work out your management team properly and then hold a BIG press conference to tell the rakyat you are ready for business and then go and submit whatever names you have to the Sultan.

    Wishing all of you all the best!

  521. #521 by showsomemercy on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:45 pm

    Some of you will make good leaders in the society. Will you take that step to be in those politicians shoes? ^^

  522. #522 by BlueBear on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:45 pm

    Please thread carefully.

    The Sultan of Perak can choose UMNO to lead a minority government (I believe) if DAP-PKR-PAS do not agree.

  523. #523 by darnielng on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:46 pm

    To every one of the oppositions that won include PAS / PKR and DAP.

    Firstly, practice moderation and not extreme in what ever you do. As tolerance in the key success factor. Too much of anything always has adverse effects. One man’s medicine is another person’s poison.

    Secondly, do not repeat the same mistakes as the BN. Make sure we preach transparency, and most important enforce it. For the benefit of common results irregardless of race and religion.

    Third, don’t start making stupid policies. It is the easiest thing to do and also the worse if wrong policies are made.

    Don’t forget that Oppositions wins because you stood together, the ruling coalition also made too many mistakes and you started off with some key persons that brought a new era and trust. Now is not the time to go against BN. No matter what BN is still part of the government we all need to support, irregardless of the past. We should look forward and work together and help Pak Lah prove that we can work together as oppositions and ruling coalition as a government to benefit the country.

    No more wasteful mega projects that has zero accountability, transparency and pave out plans with clear objectives and common goals for “results’.

  524. #524 by gofortruth on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:46 pm

    Read my post here:-


  525. #525 by markko on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:47 pm

    I sighed and was sad to see so many people jumping the gun on uncle kit based on emotions. try to put yourselves in his shoes when you shoot him. is politics so simple as maths 123? if it is, uncle kit wouldn’t have suffered for donkey years in politics!and i may have become the CM already….by day dreaming i suppose.

    it was not about race, he has already said that he accepts a malay from PKR, didn’t he? period.

    PAS has a bad reputation on issues of an islamic state. will they give up so easily?i doubt it, it is therfore, only logical that we ordinary chinese( sorry to mention race again) are not comfortable on this appointment, uncle kit would have no exception.

    what do your guys expect of him? just keep quiet and let things happen as they are? and if the things that he fears will happen do really happen in future, you guys expect him to swallow the dead cat again?

    if your guys sound so democratic, why shouldn’t you let uncle kit speaks his mind?afterall he represents so many others too, besides those who have jumped on him. He is only making very clear on his stand, what’s wrong with that?

    if you guys are so democratic, why are you not supporting the democratic process of the party having won the most no of seats to be the cm? don’t push the matter to the sultan lah to give excuses please. try asking PAS in kedah to do the same thing, ie to appoint a malay from PKR to be the CM, will they agree?

    i am also surprised that some well known bloggers like Rocky Bru and Zorro have also jumped on the band wagon to criticize so frantically on uncle kit as if they themselves are the saints. Common old men, you have preached so much about democracy, freedom of speech and bla bla bla in your blogs, now can’t you even stay calm, analyse the situations and try to offer good advice to resolve the crisis? you didn’t try to put out the fire, instead you add on fuel to blow up the whole thing further for no return.

    This is typical Malaysian style!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  526. #526 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:47 pm

    The possible fiasco should not be attributed to Lim Kit Siang. The problem is with the irreconcilable differences between DAP’s and PAS’s political agendas, and probably Anwar’s problems as warned by Chandra Muzzafar.

  527. #527 by elindamin on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:48 pm

    now that the swearing in has been postponed.
    what would be a celebration, has turned into ugly circus, instead. how powerful one’s statement in internet could do to a country. this is a lesson to everyone, i guess. and if, after what has happened, PAS make way to whomever to be the Perak MB, despite being choosen by the Sultan, I would have to re-think my support to DAP. not because i’m malay muslim, but more to my dissappointment at how things going from bright to gloom. But I hope my vote that help Nie Ching’s won (Parlimen Serdang) would not be wasted. At 27, she’s relatively young but I hipe she can deliver.

  528. #528 by lililala on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:49 pm

    congatrulation to uncle Lim.

    sorry just my personal comment :

    when u don’t expact someting . now u got more than what u want.

    So u become greedy in ‘power’. U shld set precedent by the majority winner “PAS/PKR”. as future we cannot predict.

    remember, remember…… we only minority !

  529. #529 by BR08 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:49 pm

    Let’s BN take over. All Malay start now onward, do not trust to DAP anymore. PRU13 never have 1 fight 1. Barisan Rakyat from PAS and PKR will fight with DAP and BN.

    You are not appreciate Malay who are also vote for you. What the Malay people think about you is truth now. All the trust fall down. Go out and walk alone if you think you are good party, DAP. tq

  530. #530 by joejoe on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:49 pm







  531. #531 by omo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:49 pm

    DAP can’t even see who has the final say as to the MB of Perak. It is the Sultan. In fact DAP should be glad that the responsibilty of selecting the MB is in the hands of the Sultan. What has the Perakians to complain? Don’t like – then fly kite in Penang or go to KL. Also DAP should have taken the opportunity to silence BN and its critics about its ideology – Malaysian First and not look at race or religion in supporting PAS MP. It is a free advertisement to attract Malays into DAP. In the next election maybe DAP has Malay ADUN, then the post of MB goes to DAP. I believe very strongly in PAP of Singapore as they practise fairness but very disappointed with DAP under LKS.

  532. #532 by bobbywee on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:50 pm


    I though you are difference with them, but you also Power Crazy.

    YOU are the ONE who spoil the soup.

    I really disappointed!!!!!!!!!!!

    Shame on you!!!

    Resign is the only way. Act fast.

  533. #533 by alexx on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:51 pm

    # Lee Wang Yen Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 17: 29.41

    The claim that Perak MB has to be a Malay Muslim is exactly what you claim to be racial and religious bias.

    Why are you asking this only after BN handed over the state but not before? Or this state’s law had been setup only after BN lost?

    You are just like those MCA leaders… Refer this to DAP but not Unmo in last 50 yrs…

  534. #534 by boh-liao on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:52 pm

    Now, we are into this ‘It looks like Perak MB’, ‘It sounds like Perak MB’, and ‘Is it really Perak MB’ nonsense!

  535. #535 by lkt-56 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:55 pm

    So much is happening and so fast! This is too much…. arghh! I need a break. Let’s have a KIT KAT!!!!

    Back to serious discussion. Whoever made the decision to post pone the swearing in of the new MB has made a wise decision. It would give the three parties a chance and more time to hammer out an agreement.

    If they fail to agree after this the sultan should withhold his consent since they are doomed to fail as they would not be able to function as a government let alone lead the people.

    Raja Petra has a point but he should not blame one person alone. We are all collectively insane at the moment and when we wake up I think common sense will prevail!

  536. #536 by CommonFolk on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:55 pm

    Latest From Malaysiakini,

    Reason Of the Cancellation of MB searing-in.

    PKR disputes regent’s choice

    Meanwhile more details are emerging as to the details of the meeting the three menteri besar candidates had with Raja Nazrin this afternoon.

    According to sources the main reason for the postponement of the swearing-in ceremony this afternoon was due to an objection by the PKR’s Jamaluddin over Nizar’s appointment.

    Apparently Jamaluddin told the Raja Nazrin that he disputed the choice made by the regent yesterday to make Nizar the menteri besar.

    It is learnt that the regent became upset with this and instructed all three of them – Nizar, Ngeh and Jamaluddin – to go back to the drawing board again to determine their preferred choice.

    A statement issued by Ngeh earlier today indicated that Nizar was the regent’s choice to be the state’s menteri besar. According to Ngeh, the regent had rejected his (Ngeh’s) and Jamaluddin’s name although these were the first two choices.

    It is also learnt that the regent had asked all 31 state representatives from the three parties to be present before him to swear the allegiance to the new menteri besar, whoever it is.

  537. #537 by YES MINISTER on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:56 pm




  538. #538 by rocketintoparliment on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:56 pm

    Does the MB & State exco’s positions comes with lots of money or potential money to be earned ? Then why is DAP & PKR fighting about ? You talk about BN being bad & corrupted.. now when you see the pot of honey, you too start behaving like them.

    i will not cry if Perak goes back to BN because you guys dun deserve to lead the state. I really dun know what will be your next GE ceramah message.. Just hope that Penang will be manage better. Perak as good as gone in next GE..

  539. #539 by jbozz on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:57 pm

    Stop bull shyt BA will not end as long as Rakyat still around and remain calm to monitor the situation, if you are trying to incite riots then u r BN old thinking. Whoever become MB is not so important most importance is to fight for Democracy. Problems are we have these old taboo which is the constitution created long time ago that stated only Malay with Islam can be MB only Sultan can change that taboo not us the Rakyat or YB Lim Kit Siang.

    This is the same taboo like in South Africa, Only White man allowed to use the beach that was the time British Ruled South Africa, in India, Mahatma gandhi time, only whiteman can sit on a train cabin. In any part of the world, prior to democracy, old constitution need to be changed to allow healthy grow of democracy, free press, transparency, and human rights.

  540. #540 by eyuppie on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:57 pm

    Hi elindamin & others, the cancellation of the swearing of Perak MB this afternoon was a SMART and MATURE move. All 3 parties i.e. DAP, PKR and PAS have to rethink the MB issue bearing in mind the interest of the Perakian. I am very sure that the Perakian is not in favour and is not prepared for an Islamic State. Let appoint a candidate that can be accepted by all Perakian and not a candidate that may cause fear among the Perakian. Listen to Lim Kit Siang and Anwar advice.

  541. #541 by Loh on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:57 pm

    ///If Malay rights and sensitivities are cited in the MB issue, it will be (and is now being) cited in the EXCO issues, and will be in future policies etc./// —Lee Wan Yen

    The constitution of Perak state is very clear regarding the appointment of the MB. Until it is amended, if ever, Chinese will never become a MB unless it has the majority which would be logical for the Sultan to decide that an exception can be made as provided in the constitution. The question then is should DAP participate in the election under the present constitution. The answer is yes. So, it has to abide by the decision of the Sultan.

    We have experienced the harm of racial politics, and we hope that eventually there would be a two-party system where race would not be the predominant issue. 50 years has been long enough for race-based parties to move away from race and they have not. DAP and PKR are multiracial in its constitution and we hope that they will grow. They will need PAS in the interim to form government. It is hoped that PAS might evolve itself into a multiracial party, even of Islamic origin.

    When political parties are truly multiracial in the composition its members and elected representatives, the constitution that have specific restriction on the ‘characteristics’, the race and the religion, of the person for MB would be against proper functioning of the political party in terms of party hierarchy.

    If the MB is required only to follow the set policies of the state government as decided by the Executive Committee, the racial origin of the person does not matter. But as the CEO of the state, the capability of the person matters. To restrict the position to Malays it would limit the choice of the best candidate, since it was possible that they could be better candidates who happen to be non-Malays.

    The constitution has not met with this issue for the past 50 years. In the interest of allowing for proper development of multiracial political parties in the country, it is hoped that the constitution can be amended accordingly. In the meantime DAP will have to accept the present arrangement. In fact if DAP had only one Malay representative, he would have been put up as the MB. Would this not make other DAP DUN members feel less happy when a junior member in party rank becomes the senior member in government position? In view of the possible anomaly, the constitution ought to be amended, in due course.

  542. #542 by twg19492008 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:57 pm

    Br RPK

    tried logging onto Malaysia Today but cudn’t ..reason…I didn’t get my username and password correct…this i must honestly admit probably a sign of early dementia for a 58 yo fart, thinking i can keep a lot of things in my numbskull n not having noted them down. FYI I m a chinese muslim n have been and still am passionately married to the same malay woman for the past 36 yrs have 6 children who are now MALAYSIAN professionals contributing towards this beautiful country called MALAYSIA, a doctor a teacher, an engineer a corporate a pharmacist and 6 grandchildren (shud I tell more how MALAYSIAN my family is? )
    If u shud b reading this post…appreciate if i cud retrieve my username and password thru your goodselves and certainly can contribute and share my two cents worth . My email is [email protected]

    Makkal sakhti. Suara rakyat, suara keramat. People’s power.

  543. #543 by k1980 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 5:58 pm

    Umno will now try to break up the BR alliance
    A statement by the state palace said the swearing-in ceremony was postponed because “latest developments” showed the three opposition parties had not reached a “clear mutual understanding” on forming a stable coalition government in Perak. No fresh date was immediately scheduled for a new ceremony.

  544. #544 by orangcina on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 6:00 pm

    Pls read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

    “Majority rule is a major principle of democracy…”

    I am sad and disappointed that is not happening in Perak.

  545. #545 by ahgoh3232 on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 6:01 pm

    We RAKYAT give a chance to opp. Parties because we want a CHANGE! but not to create any “others” issues to this country.
    Who is the MP for Perak is not important, as long he is capabale enough to lead the state for change! As what been understand, opp. parties let the SUltan to make a decision. But looks l;ike this decision is disagree form what has been agreed. REMEMBER, rakyat can vote for opp this time, also can turn their back ! because what we need is AMAN & DAMAI.

  546. #546 by boh-liao on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 6:02 pm

    A perfect storm is forming ahead of us and another tsunami is about to hit us all! Pom, pom, pom!

    There is only a thin line between victory and defeat. The victor may become the vanquished within nanoseconds.

  547. #547 by jetaime.f on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 6:03 pm

    Stay positive……………………………….please……..

  548. #548 by Bobster on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 6:04 pm

    BN 1
    DAP 0
    PAS 0
    PKR 0
    BR aka Rakyat in Perak including urs truly makan pisang.

    Sad day today for Malaysia politics. Hope Selangor doesnt get screwed again. Please buck up guys. Plan, sit down, discuss, get feedback, communicate between DAP/PAS/PKR before making public announcement. Else the enemies will find all means to shoot you down. Penang CM shouldnt talk so much at this moment but go to the ground, get feedback from the public, discuss among members and change only when necessary. Learn from AAB mistakes, dont sprint else after one yr lose steam. This is a marathon, takes time to slowly improve. You have 4 yrs to prove yourself.

  549. #549 by js on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 6:04 pm

    In the first place, these 3 parties have made a mistake by submitting the 3 names for the Sultan to choose.I strongly believe another tsunami will happen in Perak where ending up the BN governs this state.
    You have to agree with the Sultan’s decision after submitting that 3 names. Please sort this out.

  550. #550 by Joetan on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 6:05 pm

    Now we have another Interesting blog. This time is on KHAIRY. http://www.antikhairy.blogspot.com (KHAIRY SEX VIDEO)

  551. #551 by syntax on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 6:06 pm

    Hi YB,

    There are so many objections when you made the decision by stopping all the elected MPs to attend the MB swearing ceremony. Now you made a sudden reverse. Anyway the people that elected Barisan Rakyat want to know WHY you made that decision at the 1st place. There must be a reason on that. I am from penang, though Tan Sri Koh already out but still he is gentlemen enough to attend’s your son’s swearing ceremony without hesitation.

    So YB, please act accordingly.

  552. #552 by omo on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 6:06 pm

    DAP cannot see the treat actually comes from PKR. All along they are competing with DAP in chinese areas. Just look at Sarawak, Sabah and even Perak, Penang and Selangor. So to be please with PKR MB will be a disadvantage to DAP. See because of an outburst, many Chinese will be flocking to PKR. In next election, if PKR decided to challenge DAP, and because of its outlook, DAP will lose.

  553. #553 by stnaaron on Thursday, 13 March 2008 - 6:07 pm

    To all leader from DAP,PKR and PAS please read the blog here your supporter doesn’t want you guys to fight for MB post… some of our o