No DAP CEC mandate for PAS Menteri Besar in Perak
The decision to appoint a PAS Assemblyman Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak Mentri Besar has caused shock and consternation to DAP leaders, members and supporters.
The DAP Central Executive Committee, at its emergency meeting in Penang on Sunday, 9th March 2008, had given approval for the formation of a Perak coalition government comprising 18 DAP Assembly members, seven PKR Assemblymen and six PAS Assemblymen.
DAP is prepared to accept DAP chairman and Assemblyman for Sitiawan Ngeh Koo Ham or PKR Behrang Assemblyman Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi as Perak Mentri Besar.
As the appointment of PAS Assemblyman for Pasir Panjang Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak Mentri Besar representing the third and smallest political party in the proposed coalition has not received the mandate of the CEC, DAP Perak Assemblymen will stay away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 28.16
Hello do we really need this now? Supportlah, show the world we can work. And I believe Perak royalty is number in supporting good governance, fair play etc, etc. Takan cakap kosong aje?
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 32.38
YB, I WAS SHOCKED TOO! WHY PAS!? WHY NO OBJECTION! ANY GOO D REASON FOR THAT?
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 37.58
dap – be in the opposition. redeem your integrity.
without dap , pas cannot form the government.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 38.24
Although I do not necessary agree with the appointment of a PAS Menteri Besar, considering the huge DAP win there, I do however advise DAP-PKR-PAS to sort all differences out, and project an image of a strong coalition which can work together. All opposition parties now are under the watch of the Rakyat, to judge if the opposition really have the ability to form and manage a coalition, and next a country.
Please do sort this out and solve it immediately. Also, I don’t think staying away from the swearing-in ceremony helps at all.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 40.34
PAS should PASSED the CM PERAK seat to DAP or PKR.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 41.39
PAS representative has NO qualification to be the CM of PERAK
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 41.39
As much as DAP supporters are disappointed by the selection of the PAS member for the top post in Perak, your actions are potentially very inflamattory.
I think the DAP unfortunately needs to compromise here. Please do not worsen the situation by publicly displaying your disapproval. You can potentially undo all your good work in the elections with this action.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 41.39
all dap wakil raayat resign n forced another by elections. PLEASE.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 42.12
“The DAP Central Executive Committee, at its emergency meeting in Penang on Sunday, 9th March 2008, had given approval for the formation of a Perak coalition government comprising 18 DAP Assembly members, seven PKR Assemblymen and six PAS Assemblymen.”
Is staying away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow overturn the approval given by DAP CEC for the formation of Perak coalition government on the 9th March 2008?
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 42.59
not a wise choice… i’m chinese btw
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 43.41
all dap wakil raayat resign n forced another by elections. PLEASE.
Not necessary. It will not change anything.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 44.01
If DAP jumps to the opposition in Perak, this will have easily have ramifications to the other DAP-coalition state governments. Need to be cautious.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 45.55
Without PAS, Barisan Rakyat no longer a majority barisan, reduce to a lesser barisan than BN.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 47.44
Here we go again
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 51.19
if pas won six seats and be given the mb post. than lets do not preach democracy in this cyberblog.
than dap shouldnot appeal for funds for this election support.
IF THIS IS CALL BANGSA MALAYSIA. than i suggest that only two parties represent malaysia. umno and pas.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 53.54
HOW TO kick this PAS out of PERAK NOW! SOmeone helps ANWAR where is Dato Seri ANWAR now?
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 54.16
LKS your man said he will accept who ever the sultan chooses.Please walk the talk.This is not the time to sulk and give BN a chance to get a crack at us.Walk the talk please and lead by example.You are wise. please be there at the swearing in with the 18 assembly man.Its the rakyat wish.please honour it
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 54.21
There is nothing to be afraid of a PAS MB. Dont let the ghost of 1999 haunt us. Just explain to the people this is under state constitution and those PKR candidates do not have the proper paper qualifications. And since the sultan of perak refused to defy the state constitution, hence the post had to be given to the PAS representative.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 55.13
Guys, just have to face reality, whatever is it, the MB post will surely be led by a Malay, since Perak is still a Malay majority seat. We are not a country which has totally eliminated race base politics like the USA. So it’s either from PKR or PAS.
Why the Sultan chose Pas instead of PKR is still a question remained to be answered.
BUT Please:
“As the appointment of PAS Assemblyman for Pasir Panjang Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak Mentri Besar representing the third and smallest political party in the proposed coalition has not received the mandate of the CEC, DAP Perak Assemblymen will stay away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow.”
Cmon DAP, aren’t you guys supposedly to be working with each other? SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR EACH OTHER! SINCE BA HAS CHOSEN TO LET THE SULTAN DECIDE, THEN RESPECT THE SULTAN’s DECISION.
I would be very happy if the MB is from DAP as I’ve always been a DAP supporter. But life’s like that, it’s never fair! DAP will still rule the Exco state member seats! DON’T LET SUCH THINGS JEAPORDIZE our co-operation with other parties.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 55.29
I’m not a DAP member but I and my family have always supported you and your ideals of a Malaysian Malaysia and voted for DAP whenever possible. I’m wondering if this step is necessary?
Since there’s no formal pact on who should be the MB because this has been an unexpected victory, and you’ve decided to form the state government together, I think it’s only right for your state assemblymen to attend the swearing in ceremony. I think it’s plain stupid if you guys decide not to attend the swearing in ceremony but remain as part of the state government.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 57.19
We really need PAS’ help to abolish the NEP. Pls dont do something that will wreck our main objection.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 57.56
type error : objective
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 57.59
There is inequality in the Perak’s constitution at the first place, many had hoped for the Royal family to be fair and equal, once again, the majority of people’s voice has fallen to deaf ears, it is too late to do anything now for the Royal announcement had been made…We know now what the will of the family is…Non muslims do not have a future in Perak…it is very clear now…sad…
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 58.49
Children Please Behave yourselves……………….
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 58.55
“As the appointment of PAS Assemblyman for Pasir Panjang Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak Mentri Besar representing the third and smallest political party in the proposed coalition has not received the mandate of the CEC, DAP Perak Assemblymen will stay away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow.”
If staying away from swearing-in ceremony in the solution, uncle Kit must be kidding me. What is in store for Perak Uncle Kit? Is DAP showing some muscle now? I think it is too late. Just accept it.
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 59.09
YES I agree with Itshowtime and devilmaster!
There is more at stake. DAP knows they can’t defy the Sultan’s decision, just accept it with an open heart!
I live in Ipoh, I don’t mind who being the MB. I’m sure others can too.
DON’T let BN USE THIS MATTER AGAINST DAP!
March 12th, 2008 at 19: 59.23
Do not resign and force a by election. It might just worsen an already tense situation. DAP MUST fight for top posts in the mayors and exco offices. Go for the major ones. Only that way can we keep PAS at bay.
WE WANT DAP FOR THE MAYORS POST, LAND EXCO, ECONOMICAL EXCO etc. Demand the posts. We gave Perak away but lets gain control in Ipoh. Don’t let PAS have too big a say in Ipoh. MB is enough everything else MUST go to PKR and DAP.
Come on Anwar, YB Lim you promised to listen to us now prove it. Listen to what the people want. We want fairness. Dont give the mayors post to PAS too just on the reason a malay should hold the post.
Lets Be That BANGSA MALAYSIA we all talk about. And dont think ALL the Malays support PAS. They DONT.
Please listen DAP and PKR.
Without PAS we will still be a hung state. Ever thought that maybe PAS won the six seats because there was no PKR or DAP candidate in that particular constituency. And if there was maybe PAS wouldn’t have won???
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 00.07
what is anwar ’s comment on this ?
or like lim keng yaik said ” dap is playing with fire ”
bn and umno is having the last laugh.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 02.00
Quote:
Jackychin Says:
Today at 19: 57.59 (1 minute ago)
There is inequality in the Perak’s constitution at the first place, many had hoped for the Royal family to be fair and equal, once again, the majority of people’s voice has fallen to deaf ears, it is too late to do anything now for the Royal announcement had been made…We know now what the will of the family is…Non muslims do not have a future in Perak…it is very clear now…sad…
Cmon guys, we are the one who is asking people not to be racist and overly religious, now see who is the hypocrite now? THIS IS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW PAS TO SHOW IT’S MORE MODERATE SIDE through PERAK!
PS: I live and grew up in Ipoh, I really don’t mind this!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 02.33
i objection for pas as a MB perak.
after 2012 or next election, perak state will become is islam state.
because 2008 umno state seat (dun) will be win by pas.
now and begin now pas have power and increase pas effect in all state.
sorry.. perak orang… you are 2nd grade citizen
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 03.25
pls be clear on your main objective! your manifesto.! The sultan has the last say, so compromise,work together n not rock the boat that just started sailing. Is post so important then working as a team to achieve our objective?
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 03.30
Ho ho ho
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 04.54
Kit,
This boycott thing is not a wise move. How can the DAP function as a government if it boycotts the swearing in ceremony. How is DAP going to work with the MB after that?
DAP should cooperate with the MB and see how he functions. There is good chance he will go along with DAP demands.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 06.42
lina, I’m utterly dissapointed with your words. WITHOUT PAS, WE CAN’T EVEN HAVE KEDAH, PERAK and SELANGOR UNDER OPPOSITION! If it’s not for those non-bumi who voted for PAS against UMNO, we wouldn’t have gotten so many states.
Now you all are getting suspicious with PAS? Of cmon guys, WHY ARE ALL OF YOU AS HYPOCRITICAL AS UMNO/MCA/MIC etc?
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 07.30
Lim Kit Siang, pls ask your DAP Perak Assemblyman to attend the swearing ceremony . We do not expect such a ‘childish’ action frm you. Let’s respect the appointment from the Sultan. Please do not give ammunition to the BN and the press ’sing’ about the coalition between DAP-PKR-PAS in Perak?
R you willing to forgo Perak then Selangor just bcos of this appointment? All the hard work that your assemblymen have done? If your answer is YES, I think those who had voted for DAP, will be really really really really disappointed.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 07.43
Posted this earlier but it says it’s still awaiting moderation. I’ll repost it but without the s t u p i d word.
I’m not a DAP member but I and my family have always supported you and your ideals of a Malaysian Malaysia and voted for DAP whenever possible. I’m wondering if this step is necessary?
Since there’s no formal pact on who should be the MB because this has been an unexpected victory, and you’ve decided to form the state government together, I think it’s only right for your state assemblymen to attend the swearing in ceremony. I think it’s plain s****d if you guys decide not to attend the swearing in ceremony but remain as part of the state government.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 08.51
YB LIM,
Please don’t do it! please! I am a Chinese and a DAP supporter, please don’t this. It will definitely be targeted by BN that the opposition front can’t work together! Don’t do it! I beg you!
We must be united! WE must! The Rakyat don’t want to see any fraction in the opposition states!!!!
DO THE RIGHT THING, YB LIM!!!!!
PLEASEEEE!!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 09.28
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March 12th, 2008 at 20: 09.50
Uncle Lim
What a great way to show our Malaysians that we can even work together with a minority PAS man as MB.(Just like a team leader lah). Ultimately whoever the MB has to listen to the Barisan Rakyat directives right?
Whichever the arrangement, make sure you deliver your promises to the people who voted you in – clean & fair society.
Be watchful, I know it has been a tiring journey to get here, so many busy meetings & sleepless nights. It may not be easy to think clearly & wisely.This can become a potential crack for the lurking BN to capitalize and attack.
So, rest up well & think trice & think wisely over the larger picture.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 10.00
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ncysan Says:
Today at 20: 02.33 (4 minutes ago)
i objection for pas as a MB perak.
after 2012 or next election, perak state will become is islam state.
because 2008 umno state seat (dun) will be win by pas.
now and begin now pas have power and increase pas effect in all state.
sorry.. perak orang… you are 2nd grade citizen
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Cmon, post some construtive comments. You can’t obeject shit. The decision has been made and please accept it with a mature mentality. I’m from PERAK and I don’t give a damn to who is the MB. DAP will still have the majority exco members.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 10.25
I am not Suspicious with PAS, but in PERAK PAS has no right to be CM since they just TUMPANG kereta with a MINORITY seat at PERAK, other state might be okay.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 10.39
Hi YB Lim, please have the 18 assemblymen go for tomorrow’s swearing in ceremony. We really do not need this from DAP. you guys are suppose to work together. What is this? This will definately show uncertainty and instability in the DAP-PKR-PAS coalition. yes, DAP won the most seats. but the law states that a malay muslim has to be the MB. it doesnt matter.
Please grow up and dont be a child.
Yes you may be unhappy but please do not show to the people in Perak that there is struggle among you guys. If you guys are not cannot agree in one thing – MB – how can you guys agree in many more things especially running of a state????
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 11.38
Now the score is BN 8 — BR 5
Next election BN ? —- BR ?
This is the larger picture.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 14.13
YB, I agree you should be there for the SAKE of RAKYAT, but don’t forget to Demand them. Please Keep your promises!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 14.34
I am disappointed with this post. Where is the solidarity? When the rakyat voted for the opposition, they did it regardless of whether it was DAP, PAS or PKR. As others have posted, DAP may not have that many seats anyways if PAS or PKR supporters did not vote DAP. I had also been reading the Harakah where PAS seems to be doing their best in offering an olive branch to DAP and reassuring non-Muslims that their rights would be protected. Is it just a sham/marriage of convenience to empower DAP? I was disappointed the UMNO reps boycotted Guan Eng’s inauguration as CM but now that the Ruler of Perak has decided, DAP is going to do the same, stooping to their level?
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 14.44
Kit,
Did you give any specific instructions to Mr Ngeh on the appointment of Perak MB.
Ngeh then could have conveyed the parties views to the ruler.
Ngeh had said that all 3 parties will abide by the rulers choice. Then it is wrong to boycott the swearing in ceremony.
The voters have given the 3 parties the green light to work together. Why not this marriage a chance?
The UMNO putras will laugh at the BR and urge Malays to unite against the DAP.
Your magnanimity here will win the hearts of the Malays. Please rethink.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 14.54
This is the last thing we want. Don’t undo what have been acheive in this election. Accept the situation and see how it goes. Otherwise people who have given their votes to you will be disappointed.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 15.40
The only thing DAP will get by voicing this out is the impression that DAP will toiuch on malay sensitivities and risk the stability of the different races. I am Malay who voted for DAP ever since the 1998 Anwar case. But looking at the reaction of DAP once in power in Perak makes me doubt if I would again vote for DAP.
If DAP is any wiser, you’d agree happily with this and not voice any challenge on this issue. But no, DAP has shown impatience. And that is detrimental to the opportunity of having what you have today.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 15.41
Please, Mr Lim, reconsider. Let us show that we can work together. Don’t spoil what we have all achieved. Don’t let the people down.
Work with the new MB. Show the people of Perak that the coalition can work. For the next 4-5 years, serve the people of Perak well and they will surely vote you in again.
Abide by the Perak Constitution and the Sultan’s decision. It’s a wise one to defuse any possible tension.
Show us you are a wise leader. You above many others deserve this victory in the 2008 GE after all the sacrifices you have made throughout the decades. You don’t deserve to see it scuttled.
I too have waited decades for what happened on March 8 and I’m very concerned that we all move on to greater heights. May the Barisan Rakyat show Malaysians that they are united in wanrting to unite the people!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 16.01
Why not?
If PAS as MB and DAP/PKR as deputies, I don’t see any problem with it. I do see PAS as having a more sincere effort in building Perak with the rest of our other ‘Rebelious’ states. You tauted DAP as a WIP Multi-racial party and here we have you staying away from the swearing in ceremony because of technicalities.
I remember witnessing PAS Marshals standing in between the BERSIH supporters and the FRU, they were the first to be hit, in order to shield ordinary men from being hit. PAS is like DAP, in the process of changing its party to a softer & friendlier stance, if PAS can do it, why can’t DAP?
Please accept the decision and prove DAP is sincere in running a state government with people’s mandate with Barisan Rakyat.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 18.48
Please rethink your actions Kit, and the rest of the CEC.
If you let pride get in the way, it will spell disaster.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 20.19
can’t you guys get it? that’s one of their way to EFFECT dap and pas standing in the same line !!!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 20.25
IPOH, March 12 (Bernama) — The secretary of the Perak PAS Liaison Body, Ir Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin, 51, has been picked for the post of Perak Menteri Besar by the Sultan of Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah.
Mohammad Nizar will lead the coalition government to be formed by PAS, DAP and PKR which together won 31 state seats in the general election on Saturday.
The swearing-in ceremony will be held at Istana Iskandariah, Kuala Kangsar at 4pm tomorrow.
Mohammad Nizar, who is also the State Assemblyman for Pasir Panjang, said the consent from the Sultan of Perak was conveyed to him by the Regent of Perak, Raja Dr Nazrin Shah, who had granted an audience to the leaders of the three political parties at Istana Kinta, here at 5pm today.
PAS, DAP and the PKR yesterday submitted three names — Perak DAP chairman Ngeh Koo Ham, 47, Perak PKR treasurer Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi, 52, and Mohammad Nizar, — for selection by Sultan Azlan to lead the new state government.
The three names were submitted after the three political parties had received the Sultan’s consent to form the coalition government.
Speaking to reporters outside Istana Kinta, Mohammad Nizar said Ngeh would be appointed Deputy Menteri Besar I.
Ngeh won the Sitiawan state seat as well as the Beruas parliamentary seat in the recently-concluded general election.
He said the post of Deputy Menteri Besar II, who would represent the Indian community in Perak, would be announced later.
Mohammad Nizar said both the Deputy Menteri Besar posts were being created taking into consideration the interests of the multi-racial communities in the state, particularly the Chinese and Indian communities.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 21.08
No matter what, i think Ngeh Koo Ham has the responsibility to come into this blog and explain his side of story. We really want to know what transpired during his meetings with Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin & Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 21.30
Kit, If only you realize how many Chinese voted for PAS. I think this community can accept PAS as long as it does not go overboard with its Islamic stance.
You also have to realize that without PAS assemblyman, you would not be able to form the government. Or do you want BN to take is back by default.
I am sure most readers will disagree with you on this.
You are giving BN ammunitions. Look at the larger agenda.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 22.30
Utopia, DAP has only one seat in kedah and is NOT EVEN an EXCO. DAP won Penang without much help from PAS. SAme as in Selangor PKR won BIG not PAS. And for you info YOU CAN HAVE OPPOSITION led states without PAS.
BE more positive. DAP and PKR have evolved to a better party thats why they won not because of PAS.
I too have lived in Ipoh all my life and I am married to someone who supports PAS, so I know what they think of PAS people and Non-PAS people.
Me, I support fair and just treatment for all Races and religions. Not just one.
DAP and PKR should work for the people, Listen to the People.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 22.54
Looks like I wasted my vote for the DAP!Thought LKS has mallowed and now this pettiness to boycott the swearing in of the MB by DAP.Might as well give back Selangor to the BN.f!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 23.14
I totally agree with littlebird,BlueBear and many others.LKS and DAP should take it in good spirit and trust the judgement of the sultan.Please dont show disrespect to the sultan.Your dap man appeared on tv and made a pledge he will agree whoever the sultan chooses.Please honour it.Thats a request by the rakyat.The ones who put you guys up there.Please serve the rakyat not your own agenda
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 23.39
starting to b-r-e-a-k a-pa-r-t now? i guess the three parties will accept whatever the decision made by the sultan
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 23.43
Yeah, Uncle Kit, I strongly urge DAP or CEC to reconsider this decision. I’m glad there’s so many readers here who are mature enough to understand the matter. And I really hope DAP will too.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 24.23
Staying away from the swearing in ceremony will only benefit BN. If PKR is not objecting, why is DAP doing it, you all are suppose to work together and this is the reason why we are vote for the opposition for a Change. Firstly you are insulting the Sultan as he was given the choice to choose. Be realistic, if DAP was given the MB post, he will only hold it for a couple of months, maybe not even swear in because some Malay from PKR or PAS would cross over to BN and they will run the state and DAP will be in the opposition. Not only that, there will be a domino effect and will happen to Selangor. Therefore, better think twice before you decide not to attend the swearing in ceremony and will be the beginning of the end for BR.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 24.29
I think it is only good who will be the Menteri Besar when the Sultan said so, we now know PAS candidate has not received the mandate from DAP CEC but what is DAP CEC as compare to the power of the Sultan? At least we know DAP upheld its political principle of multi-racial Malaysia by nominating both DAP chairman and Assemblyman for Sitiawan Ngeh Koo Ham or PKR Behrang Assemblyman Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi as Perak Mentri Besar.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 24.39
agreed with Libra2, Utopia, BlueBear …etc
Uncle Kit, as a Perakian and Malaysian, DAP gestures here in Perak will NOT be forgotten and will be remembered for forever.
I hope to see a capable Chinese or Indian as MB of Perak and eventually PM of Malaysia!
Please consider your stand wisely
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 25.40
i not is malaysian, i am 2nd grade malaysian.
very sad for know perak state MB is pas
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 26.24
Something doesn’t add up between Malaysiakini’s account and Kit’s blog.
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Malaysiakini —> “Ngeh told reporters that all three parties have in principle agreed that the DAP would be holding the majority of exco positions as they hold the most number of state seats. “In a normal democratic process, we would be invited to head the state. But in the special circumstances of Perak and to be sensitive to Malay Muslims, Mohamad Nizar was appointed menteri besar,” he said. ”
Kit’s blog —-> “As the appointment of PAS Assemblyman for Pasir Panjang Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak Mentri Besar representing the third and smallest political party in the proposed coalition has not received the mandate of the CEC, DAP Perak Assemblymen will stay away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow.”
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Sounds very much like two different views to me. What’s going on? Can DAP-PAS even cooperate in a Perak-lead state government if did they even get along in the swearing-in ceremony??? The official work hasn’t even started!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 26.37
Why do we have to return to the same old spot after the big leap on 8 of March? Isn’t it we have seen the rakyat looked beyond the racial lines and managed to get rid of the corrupted theives?
I am sure the selection of the MB is not an easy task for the Sultan, if the intention has been racist and bias, the result would have been declared way before this. Thus, I believe this choice was made based on many solid reasons to maintain a stable society. Yes, I know DAP won 18 seats while PAS only has 1…which is why we do not have to be worried about major changes because for those are afraid of the Islam elements, we have 18 chinese angels from DAP looking after our back always, right?
It was pointed out by someone last night that we did not win the battle on 8th March. Yes, it is true…we are still far away from the great victory of throwing out those corrupted thugs totally from the government. But we did reach a great milestone in history as the poeple has voted beyond the racial lines. However, by reacting so negatively to the appointment of the PAS MB has thrown us back to the old spot which has therefore deny the hardship the poeple has gone through in reaching this milestone. So YES, I have to admit that we have gained nothing, the milestone on 8th of March is just a fantasy, a dream too good to be true because we would never be able to look beyond the racial lines.
Once again, it has proven that the people would rather being bullied by the the keris-weaving [deleted] other than to work out peacefully with other races…beyond the racial and religious lines. So, dun sob about the same old junk anymore when BN comes in again next time, because we are simply too politically shallow to recognize the importance of racial harmony.
I would like to quote a few statements of a great chinese blogger:
“Did any PAS members or supporters ever threaten to harm other races? The last time I checked, Hishamudin waved his keris every year, Najib publicly said “Keris ini mahu minum darah orang Cina” while waving showing his keris in 1987 before Ops Lalang commenced. Where are these people from? Not PAS.”
“That isn’t all. Did you see any temples and churches in Kelantan being torn down by the state government? I bet if there’s any, the BN government will publish it front page on major newspapers. But it happens under the BN rule, but not informed to public at all.”
“Guess what PAS president Hadi Awang said after winning Kedah? It will be a welfare state which caters for all races. They would only implement hudud laws only after consulting PKR and DAP. Now, ain’t it funny when Indian temples get demolished or some whackjob waved a keris live on television before consulting MIC or MCA beforehand?”
So you are still not awakened, you should really get prepared to go back to China or India. I do not see the Malays or PAS as enemies. The real enemy is the ultimate BN machinery which has malays, chinese and indians. OKT is a chinese…but what has he done for the chinese society? He cant even do a thing to save Bai-Siow in Selangor, he did not even make a sound when others threatened us with a damn keris. So what does it matter with the skin colour of our MB? As long as he is an honest and noble man and willing to give his best to the PEOPLE, we should accept him as our own…for he is a Malaysian, Bangsa Malaysia.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 27.11
DAP don’t want to make Sultan of Perak lose face right?
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 28.47
SungaiSiput is right.
Disrespecting the SULTAN will potentially LOSE ALL THE GOODWILL YOU’VE GENERATED AMONG THE MALAY COMMUNITY.
Very very poor form, and I JUST CAN’T BELIEVE Kit has suggested to boycott the ceremony.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 29.09
I really hated the TV evening news today. I think that sleepy guy is trying to create racial issue. If he has the goodwill, he will not advise publicly but privately. Other then creating racial conflict, I guess he has nothing better to do. Loser.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 29.20
ayya dap give some face la for the king. he has made his choice. dont be sellfish la. if you stay away like that malay people will never trust dap anymore.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 29.50
Kit Siang, don’t worry that there will be a backlash from the voters. This situation is different from the 1999 elections. PAS is more accepting to Chinese now compared to UMNO. Although their goal is to set up an Islamic State, they can only do with 2/3 majority. Don’t just think about Penang. We now have Selangor and Perak under the PKR-DAP-PAS coalition. No need to get so upset. Draw up an accetable arrangement rather than making it looks like the coalition will crumble. I think the Chinese voters will understand. In the coalition if PAS is to implement any values not acceptable to the Chinese, then we take action. For now….lets just follow the mandate given by the electorates…not just voters of DAP. Infact many Malays voted for DAP this round just as PAS who got many votes from the Chinese. Lets not get emotional and look at the bigger picture.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 32.32
I assume not attending the ceremony is just a symbolic act, so DAP won’t appear to be in approval of a PAS-led state govt. Otherwise, non-Muslims who voted for DAP in Perak will feel cheated. Let’s hope the new MB won’t emulate the state govt in Kelantan.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 32.57
Any disrespect to the sultan is not acceptable.DAp and all the assemblyman must be at the swearing in ceremony thats a request by the rakyat.Dont let us down.With tact we can over come all obstracles.Be brave.A new dawn has drawn and we must all learn to live together.Dont see him as a pas man see him as a partner in our new coliation.please dont let us down.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 33.25
YB, I am strongly agree with your statement. To those chinese that are well educated, maybe they will pursue DAP to for the swearing ceremony that will be held on tomorrow. Pls bear in mind, “1 vote for DAP = 1 vote for PAS” will be the slogan in next general election. And yet, 18 state seats will be the best record for DAP in perak state FOREVER……..So, have to think carefully before you act. I do remember the word spell out by Ong ka woi during his ceramah in Ipoh timur, the ultimate goal for PAS and Umno is to form an islamic country by all meant.
If DAP still can tolerate with the deputy CM post and step behind PAS, we all as a voters WILL NOT BELIEVE DAP ANYMORE!!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 33.45
I agree with the Sultan of Perak ’s decision. He sees far. Further then anyone of us. For the stability of not only the state but the country.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 34.19
Shock!!!No words can describe what I am feeling now.Never thought this would happen.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 34.50
Non muslims and non bumis in Perak have hit the ceiling, this is the the furthest we can go…The constitute clearly says, not only “Muslims” but there’s another requirement in it thats “Bumi”…its a special group and a special Race…Very much in contradiction with the believe of “Bangsa Malaysia” we like to belief in…Bangsa Malaysia is unachieveble in Perak!
YB Lim,
We are unhappy with the decision, not with PAS or Nizar its not their fault, we cannot do much at this point, but to go by it and hope for the best…We still believe in the coalition…
Sincerely
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 35.25
When PAS Marshals were hit, do you think they get to choose which PAS, DAP or PKR supporters to protect?
DAP and the rest of Barisan Rakyat worked so hard to get where we are, you as DAP stalwart are suppose to be exemplarary to others. What message are you sending to the rakyat when DAP stays away from the ceremony tomorrow?
Would you stay away from swearing in if let’s say PAS have a bigger win and picked DAP as MB?
If DAP starts this internal bickering 3 days after election then I beg you, please let DAP gulung tikar ‘coz it will prove DAP never meant to work with others.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 35.32
I believe the non-muslim electorate base of DAP is more important than the Sultan of Perak.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 36.05
Can people stop whinning that Perak is under PAS? Beofer this, you have UMNO. So now you prefer UMNO over PAS? :S
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 36.05
oh god … !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s not gentleman and will CAUSE BIG PROBLEM if DAP Perak Assemblymen will stay away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow.
PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION, UNCLE LIM
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 36.06
But why PAS? not PKR
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 36.53
i didn’t expect this reaction from you, reflect and think about your decision again…
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 37.06
This should not be happening.
Ultimately we all should preach what we practice and the way i see it, i believe that the message was that we are all ONE BANGSA MALAYSIA.
This is defintely not good for DAP and this is playing right into the hands of BN. Stay united. After all there are 7 others states remaining and another 5 years to go.
If this type of thing is going to go on, the people will start to ask themselves, ‘Would it had been better to stick with the devil we know?’. Doubts will creep ino the minds of the people and feeling of regrets over eclecting the opposition will start to overcome us and before you can say, ‘Stay united!’, the people will start to swing back to the devil they know.
Your days of opposing for the sake of opposing (in Perak anyway) are gone. Start acting like admnistrators!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 37.21
Having read the statements here, I am beginnning to think that some of the reporting in the mainstream papers on DAP’s stand is right. Maybe the papers are right in that agreeing with DAP would be like sleeping with the enemy. I didn’t believe it then, now I am beginning to believe so…
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 37.46
I think the best way to do this is to take a vote of the people here. I am not from Perak myself, but I do not oppose to the idea of having a PAS MB.
Do not mind PAS MB – 1
Do mind PAS MB -
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 37.55
Shame on you DAP. You can’t even keep a promise that was made 24 hours ago. Shame on you!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 38.17
liewkk80 , you are wrong there.
I dont agree 1 vote for DAP = 1 vote for PAS.
But i agree on 1 vote for MCA/MIC/Gerakan = 1 vote for UMNO.
First of all, DAP has no business to do with PAS. We do not take any order from PAS. But MCA/MIC/Gerakan do take order from UMNO. And each time an order be given by UMNO to them, they will just obey. No question asked.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 39.22
Another thing, if this scenerio is in Malacca, I am sure PAS and PKR will agree that the Chief Minister would come from DAP because there is no Sultan and you must realise that religion may be also involved and is always sensitive.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 39.30
Disrespecting the Sultan is the among the worst possible things DAP can possibly do. Yes, I do mean THE WORST. All goodwill generated with the Malays, will be potentially LOST.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 39.31
In the spirit of meritocracy, I think the best candidate should get the job regardless of race and religion.
The credentials (or CVs) of all 3 candidates should be published for rakyat to judge for themselves if the appointment is fair and transparent.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 39.53
# songsong Says:
Today at 20: 36.06 (2 minutes ago)
But why PAS? not PKR
coz the PKR candidates do not have the proper paper qualifications.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 40.43
We have 5 states and yet 3 have gone to pas 1 each for pkr and dap.That is not in proportion at all.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 40.53
Uncle Lim! I don’t understand you DAP guys. You won not because of Chinese votes only. Without support of Malay votes, you think DAP could have won? Bloody hell we give you chance now you want to pull this off. Are you any better than MCA!!
Watch out now. You do anything that endangers the Barisan Rakyat, you will pay dearly in the next election. Suppress those hooligans in your own party! (You guys complain about the goons in UMNO now same thing is happening in your party)
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 40.58
Now,before everyone lambast Uncle Lim for choosing to stay away from the swearing in ceremony of the Perak MB tomorrow let’s choose to view this from his shoes.
If DAP were to support the decision to have a member of PAS as the Perak MB,it may not go down too well with some quarters of Chinese.Do you still recall that the last GE, DAP lost their support from the Chinese community because they were lump together with PAS and some of their extremist policies?While some Chinese voted for PAS during the recent election,there are still some who are wary of PAS and their true intentions as PAS can be very extreme with their policies.
However, if DAP chooses to attend the ceremony tomorrow the media will have a field day by taking it as a sign that DAP endorses PAS and it’s extremist policy.Already the major media players are starting to angle their story to paint a negative picture of the opposition by nit picking on their weaknesses.If DAP is not careful,they may just slip and fall.
Either way,it’s a catch 22 situation here.
I just hope Uncle Lim will think it through and make the best decision for the people of Malaysia,the very people who have put them where they are today.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 41.08
Uncle Lim,
Does it really matters who is the MB? We just want the state and municipal council to function correctly and efficiently, “WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR”? We have enough of racial and religious problems in the last 50 years and I don’t think anyone in Perak want to repeat what the BN had done.
Moving forward and serve. And I think it would be suicidal for PAS to jump wagon after the swearing in. And Malays will never forgive them.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 41.32
songsong Says:
Today at 20: 36.06 (1 minute ago)
But why PAS? not PKR
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Because PAS candidate has better qualifications than PKR’s. Succesful busianessman, holds a couple of master degrees. I thought Barisan Rakyat’s agenda was to promote “Promotion based on merit and not based on connection, creed or other belongings.”
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March 12th, 2008 at 20: 43.18
[b]We really don’t need this at this time![/b]
Reconsider your action Mr. Lim, or you might not see another tsunami for BR in the next coming election. Don’t throw this opportunity to the drain.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 43.23
Mr. Lim, after 50 years of struggle DAP finally won the goodwill of the people and you want to squander it after 3 days?
I talked to my in-laws for days to get them to swing to PAS so that opposition can win and now you are going to scare them off in tomorrow’s paper. Think again.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 43.33
Kit,
You have two choices.
1) Reject PAS outright loudly, cause great disharmony in Perak state goverment, potential defections, Malay goodwill lost, lose power & seats in the next elections?? Fight, fight, fight?
2) Disgrutingly accept PAS, but work quietly from the inside. Experience slight unrest in the Chinese community but still an effective government.
Which of these are the lesser of the two “evils”?
Please decide wisely KIT.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 43.49
Look at what publicity DAP has created:
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/79733
Good luck guys!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 44.10
haha… i thought that we all want a change and effiecient government… today we Barisan Rakyat has made it a historical moment…. so now… because…just who become MB…everyone complaining…. ….
pls remember that isn’t that we want a malaysia with malaysian people….so
if malay/chinese/indian/indian/chiense/malay/malay/indian/chinese/etc as long as they are citizen of Malaysia and there are called Malaysian….. why so care about who is who….
we want Malaysia Malaysian…. so…. don;t trap into racist/religions agains….stay as one bangsa that is Malaysian that has a new dawn …………
or
we will be breaks like a vase…hit into ground…., and next GE…everyone back to square one…..
Whoever take up any position be it MB/CM/Exco etc…., please execute your tasks….. well…
Menjalankan tugas yang diberi dengan jujur/ikhlas demi kepentingan rakyat jelata Malaysia……. untuk semua lapisan… bukan untuk segelintir, sekumpulan, atau satu ethnic..saje…..
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 45.40
The BN-controlled press will have a field day tomorrow. Watch!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 46.01
What has paper qualifications got to do with it. Bill gates never finished Uni and he still is a one of a kind leader. Paper qualifications should not be the deciding factor.
the ability to work with all races should be the one. For me personally PKR would have been a safe choice. It stands in the middle.
But with all said and done basically its the man on the streets opinion that is what really counts. We can agree and disagree. We can love PAS or Hate PAS, but the man on the street will get what he wants.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 46.20
DAP mess up !!!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 46.44
Look at what publicity DAP has created:
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/79733
Not even mainstream media. DAP has been so stupid over this. I’m saddened.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 46.54
This is crap YB! Sia sia I go vote for DAP….you guys didn’t walk the talk.
Please end this boycott…..this is very very bad image for DAP. I’m sure many will remember this day comes next election if the boycott goes on. BN is already capitalizing on this squabble.
Just bad…you guys are nothing more than another BN…support PAS = PKR = DAP!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 47.02
What happen to the ‘Malaysia’ as your blog title suggested?
PAS is also Malaysia.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 47.02
Sorry but i beg to be different. i dont think all our royalities are colour blind. colour/race is thicker than water in this case.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 47.37
i heard over the news that the selangor deputy menteri besar have to be a malay too.
BANGSA MALAYSIA IS DEAD.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 47.47
paper qualification and portfolio always the first measure when both are equal
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 47.51
It’s just ONE POST.
One STINKY POST.
This is not even worth the squabbles!!!!!
PLease end it!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 47.53
So this the reality of Malaysia politics.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 48.07
You have mess up uncle!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 48.09
We don’t wnat this kind of news any more. They think they are heros. They should go to hiding quietly!
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March 12th, 2008 at 20: 48.55
I believe there is a third way forward to salvage the situation, and you will need all the party leaders to resolve this.
If indeed DAP Perak has acted without the instruction of DAP CEC, then the decision is ultra vires. But what can happen now is for PAS rep to carry on first, and perhaps within a few months, say that PAS is stepping down for PKR candidate.
Whatever it is, it would be best to work this out quietly instead of blowing up for BN to criticise the coalition.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 50.04
Do not give up ; DAP should be the MB .
We said MCA is hiding the UMNO sarong now DAP is hiding under the PAS sarong; the whole party of DAP has lost its integrity, the people will laugh at us- coward.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 50.08
Mr. Lim,
If PAS is notin DAP’s list as MB, its name should notbe submitted its the first case.
Actually HRH is in a difficult position too I suppose. Om one hand the Malay subjects have to be appeased too. The urban Malays may accept a Non-Malay but definitely not the rural ones.
Thus the choice of a Malay is the most logical. But for appointment of PAS as MB? Why not settle for PKR? This would make most of us happy.
In coalition there would be plenty of give and take to make it work. Otherwise it is as good an over!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 50.15
The first mistake was made when 3 names were submitted instead of 2.
Boycotting the ceremony will be a bigger mistake as it will be considered an insult by the Ruler as you need all the goodwill to consolidate the party’s position in the state.
Also may cause a state crisis even before DUNs take the oath.
Suggest the DAP should compromise.
My 2 sen worth.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 50.40
Kit… pls laa… after so much effort that we have spent .. a sentence from your mouth will destroy what we have built… a New Malaysia.
Dont force us to take the step of sacrifice you for the sake of Malaysia… if we need to…. I start to understand why there was KOKS campaign long time ago
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 50.41
Is there a conspiracy among the royalities as a result of the loss by UMNO/Bn?
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 51.26
Greedy!!!!!! PAS should turn down the offer as MB.The people have the say in this.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 51.29
This evening I was waiting at the newstand fervently wanting to know Sultan’s choice. Yes, I heard rumours saying that Ngeh Khoo Ham will be Perak Menteri Besar. I was sooo happy. But, mana tahu the owner of the newstand complaint that newspapers under Sin Chew Media Corporation (Sin Chew Daily and Nanyang Siang Pau) has been misinformed. So they withdrawn the newspapers printed in the evening and reprinted them all over again. Everybody waiting for their night edition of both newspapers ended up getting their copies late. I am wondering how the journalists can get misinformed.
Let’s face the reality, YB Lim. Sultan is a politically neutral entity. He is the Sultan of all. Please, ask your men to attend the swearing-in ceremony. Be rest assured that Menteri Besar is not an absolutely autocratic person. He/she will still need majority votes to implement any policy. But let us make sure that the new Menteri Besar will not sell our common interests out, OK?
Please, the Sultan have sovereignity.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 53.04
As I’ve written in this blog prior to the election.
Vote for any opposition except PAS. If got PAS vs BN(UMNO), then make undi rosak. But it was disregarded & see what happened…
1. Kedah PAS Govt did not nominate Kota Setar DAP Candidate into Exco.
2. Sultan of Perak got a PAS member as MB.
3. In PAS election manifesto says not going for Islamic state. But Hadi already said in public to ban ‘UnIslamic Entertainment etc’ in a nice way ‘thru the consent of everyone’ (but by majority of PAS).
4. Even Sultan of Selangor confidential secretary announced today that the Deputy MB shall be a Malay.
See what happens when we vote PAS???
They are wolfs in sheep clothing (dropping Islamic state etc)
Now have no choice but to boycott PAS in Perak & send memorandum of protest to Sultan Azlan & Raja Nazrin.
Another way to work is as DAP has majority, we just don’t listen to the MB at all!!! We assume & take Ngeh as MB & disregard everything Nizar says or do. He cannot act alone. We have majority – just ignore Nizar & pretend he is not there & go along with our own policies.
If any state policies need Nizar to approve, DAP just ignore & go ahead & don’t bother.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 53.18
Kit Siang, i am so disappointed with you decision. i just coulnt believe you’ve said that. Pls reconsider. If DAP boycott the swearing ceremony, how do the perak pple would have confidence in the new gov? I m from Perak and I m worried not because member of PAS is becoming the MB but the statement you have made here. The coalition is falling apart in less than a week time, how could we have confidence for the next few years?
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 53.26
In the first place why submit 3 names for the Sultan when DAP is not agreeable to PAS candidate. When your strategy failed, you cry foul. Ngeh has agreed publicly that DAP will “sokong dengan sepadunya” to whoever is being chosen by the Sultan. Now you are singing different tune. Shame,shame,shame on you LKS!!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 54.03
Well, now I understand why BN can remain in power indefinitely.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 54.23
hello …
don’t loss ur cool
if u boycott them this time ,then i am sure ba will loss next election
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 54.33
[...] Oh yes – the real source is from here – No DAP CEC mandate for PAS Menteri Besar in Perak [...]
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 54.42
VERY VERY SILLY STATEMENT. When so much has been won on non-racial, intelligent platform, to now THROW IT ALL AWAY on a stupid quarrel over the PAS MB in Perak.
Please show strong leadership and tell all short sighted narrowminded people in DAP, look at calibre of man, not at his skin or religion. If you behave like this, how do you expect MALAYS to accept Lim Guan Eng as CM ??
You are putting at risk all you won on 8th march. Only UMNO is happy. Is this the work of UMNO spies in your party ???
I am Chinese and Non-Muslim, and a DAP supporter! But if DAP is truely so bigoted and narrow minded, then you really deserve all the problems and chaos you will inherit by this very very stupid statement. No more politiking – get to work to improve people’s lives.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 54.48
[...] will stay away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow. [No DAP CEC mandate for PAS Menteri Besar in Perak. Lim Kit Siang. March 12 [...]
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 55.18
Dear Uncle Kit,
I am sorry to hear about this DAP decision. DAP’s choice will not only isolate itself from the Malaysian Malays, instead all Malaysians come the 13th general election will shun DAP.
I made a conscious choice to vote for PAS eventhough I have don’t agree with its Islamic state agenda. Why? Because the greater good necessitate the need for an alternative government.
Yes, PAS is imperfect but at least they are evolving. Why can’t DAP understand that in ensuring the rakyat interests are upheld and defended, a united and cooperative team is needed?
You must understand that in the first place, the rakyat place their hope in Barisan Rakyat / Barisan Alternatif for winds of change. If DAP want to create infights so early in this coalition, the real loser ultimately is DAP, PAS and PKR.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 55.23
DAP should have made their MB selection clear from the start that they support a candidate from PKR. From the beginnning I do not favor a DAP candidate. The decision to nominate a DAP candidate for the MB position is a wrong one. The MB from Perak needs to be a bumiputera muslim, a DAP MB is too drastic a change and also against the MB tradition. Though PAS is the minority opposition in Perak, DAP-PKR still needs their seat to form a simple majority in Perak, hence they have the bargaining power.
I suggest that DAP made their decision fast and clear that they are prepared to accept a PKR candidate as MB but not from PAS.
Please guys, it’s not whether we(here) are prepared to accept a PAS MB, it’s about the majority of Perakian Chinese. Most of them do not have the same thinking as us. They will live in fear under a PAS MB. I am from Perak, I am ok with a PAS MB but most of my friends back in my hometown doesnt think the same way. The DAP CEC is making the correct decision now.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 56.07
perak people won’t be afraid of pas mb,but afraid of u,lks
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 56.21
Kit, as much as the average chinese person on the streets who voted for DAP would slightly begrudge a PAS MB, I can guarantee that he would find the DAP CEC action to boycott even more disturbing.
Act FAST Act NOW.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 56.39
This whole charade is a joke.
- for those who keep arguing about Bangsa Malaysia and not wanting DAP to associate themselves with PAS be ****ing realistic. The goal for Bangsa Malaysia cannot be achieved overnight and do not forget significant Malay votes that have gone to Barisan Rakyat coalition.
- why submit three names of Perak MP to Sultan INCLUDING PAS nominee? I thought you folks of all got agreement already? Don’t make BR a laughing joke for BN!
- disrespecting Sultan’s wishes is political suicide, period. Uncle Kit, you better convince DAP CEC and show up at the ceremony tomorrow.
- finally it is obvious between PAS and UMNO the former is the lesser of two evils. While PAS may not have abandoned their Islamic state manifesto they’re not as fascist as UMNO. So for good of the nation work with them for the time being.
Please remember the rakyat can vote you out as fast as they voted for you in!
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 57.45
u,lks only know how to boycott people…
but do u know the consequence?
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 58.05
Can a period of one year be given for each party to be MB? A trial period of sorts to let the people decide. After 3 years, Let the people decide MB post for the remaining duration. That way all parties get a chance and for those of us who dont want a PAS, wont worry to much and for those who dont care who is MB, well still wont care, but at least it will be fair and transparent. And PAS wont be able too many restrictions and PKR and DAP can counter any negative effects during their terms. Since the people decide the MB for the last few years all the reps will have to work really hard for us.
My opinion only…. Still doesn’t mean I approve of PAS (mostly due to Hadi Awang and his comments and the fact he thinks only he is right) but it would be a compromise..
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 58.49
Uncle Lim…we should be UNITED…without PKR & PAS…..
u think DAP CAN destroy BN 2/3??
WE WANT PEOPLE Menteri Besar!!!! No Matter PAS , PKR OR DAP
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 58.51
DYMM SULTAN is the sultan for all Malaysians.
simple language enough.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 58.55
Uncle Kit…You have just lost a vote from me for the next election to come
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 59.24
I’m 20 years old chinese and i noe i dun have that much experience than anyone here to speak up about politic. I feel proud to be malaysian after BA won 5 states, many of my frens also feel the same way. They want new government. History prove that a federal government can be change but not in one election, but through a few election. This time BA won almost half, so i can say that if they keep their work done and gain respect from 3 party(PKR, PAS, DAP) supporter, i believe BA might won the next election due to the young supporter that they will have in the next 5 year election. However, Perak which should be the example of Malaysia on the next 5 year have give a bad impression to WE, the future voter, how do you want us to vote for BA next time? It is true that DAP won much seat but it is in the constitution that only malay can be MB. They should accept it. Most malaysian have been expecting the result and they can accept it, why cant DAP, our role model cant accept. If they accept, this give confident that it would be no problem for the BA to form the next federal government. Try to look at LOWYAT FORUM, this time election have unite lots of young voter from different races, there are malay who happy for penang DAP win, chinese and indian who happy for kedah PAS win. They dont mind who be the next MB as long as they treat all races equal. But this blog has leave a bad impression to BA(Barisan Alternatif) and DAP. Anyway, who are me to give so many suggestion. I just wish BA good luck and can deal with this matter. Perak represent the next 5 years Malaysia, show good example. Do remember BN is laughing in Perak matter now.
March 12th, 2008 at 20: 59.45
Terlajak perahu boleh diundur,
Terlajak kata badan binasa
True colours showing, eh?
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 00.06
It doesn’t matter with which race to become the MB. What the Malaysian want is unity among all races. Please do not break the unity because of this and let BN have chance to oppose..
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 00.35
I suggest you go read in Chinese forum what people are saying there: http://chinese4.cari.com.my/myforum/forumdisplay.php?fid=74&page=1
Except a few idiots who insist on DAP supremacy, most are Malaysians wise enough to know that a disaster awaits if you fail to control the situation in Perak.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 01.10
islam is good…
just that everyone has religion freedom…..
but since pas won’t make perak islamic state,why u boycott them?
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 01.11
“In the first place why submit 3 names for the Sultan when DAP is not agreeable to PAS candidate. When your strategy failed, you cry foul. Ngeh has agreed publicly that DAP will “sokong dengan sepadunya” to whoever is being chosen by the Sultan. Now you are singing different tune. Shame,shame,shame on you LKS!!!!” Pac
I think that is not the case. The case here is the DAP CEC’s mandate, only 2 candidates received the mandate from DAP CEC. PAS has also submitted their candidate of course knowing they have only six ADUN. Hence, the three nominees. Remember that PAS has no electoral pact with DAP.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 01.16
Are you crazy? My family supporting Sultan decision. We voted PAS also. Why you still want to created a topic for BN? It will hurt Malay people as you didnt respect Sultan decision even DAP had promised before.
http://chinese.cari.com.my/myforum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=39539312
http://chinese4.cari.com.my/myforum/viewthread.php?tid=1142073
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 01.17
Think of the greater good. We are all in this together for a better Malaysia. To achieve our goal, there will be successes, there will be disappointments and there will be sacrifices to be made. Do not let this setback get in the way. Any impulsive actions will play straight into the hands of BN.
Think of the people that had voted for DAP. The people … not Chinese, not Indians and not Malays. We all voted across racial lines to put you guys where you guys are today in KL, Selangor, Perak, Penang, Kedah and Kelantan. The political tsunami would have happened if only the Chinese had voted for DAP. We turned our back on UMNO/BN because we trust you. Do not betray our trust and sacrifice ….
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 02.09
This is how opposition working together?
Why DAP agreed to submit three candidates to Sultan? Now Perak Sultan choose PAS candudate, then accept the decision.
No yet forming new government, you people already fo into dog fighting.
Be prepared to be opposition in next election.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 02.09
this action is breathing life into BN, why are you allowing it? don’t be a FOOL!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 02.52
DY is right. In the interest of all 3 parties, PAS should not submit. It is not right and morally ethical as PAS has the least number of seats.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 03.26
I am a staunch DAP supporter.
But all went wrong in Perak.
I feel the only most gentlemanly solution for this is for DAP to admit its mistake & to allow 2-3 DAP ADUNs to resign and seek by-elections again to see whether the Chinese community supports this PAS MB.
If DAP is voted again – then OK, the Chinese community says yes. If MCA is voted, we know what the Chinese community want.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 03.56
Tomorrow DAP have to show up,if not seriously, we loss confident on you.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 04.07
Even I as a malay minority living in penang, looking forward to the BA government leading by DAP. Now I am dissapointed with DAP for deciding to boycott 2morrow.
Before this, all agreed form coalition, to submit names to the Reagent and accept whoever being chosen as MB. Perak is not owned by DAP or PKR or PAS or BN. They are only elected leaders on behalf of the people. The state is owned by Perak’s people.
Then, it really show DAP true colours. I’m dissapointed. BN will have the last laugh. Not even a week after the election.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 04.15
alaneth Says:
Today at 20: 53.04 (52 seconds ago)
As I’ve written in this blog prior to the election.
Vote for any opposition except PAS. If got PAS vs BN(UMNO), then make undi rosak. But it was disregarded & see what happened…
1. Kedah PAS Govt did not nominate Kota Setar DAP Candidate into Exco.
—> This was due to objection by PKR ADUNs. Not PAS’s fault although you can say they could have had 2.
2. Sultan of Perak got a PAS member as MB.
—> Everyone said they would accept the decision. If DAP did not want this to happen, then they should have said that they would not form the state government with PAS and PKR, and BN would form the minority government in the state, I suppose.
3. In PAS election manifesto says not going for Islamic state. But Hadi already said in public to ban ‘UnIslamic Entertainment etc’ in a nice way ‘thru the consent of everyone’ (but by majority of PAS).
—> And do they have a majority in Perak?
4. Even Sultan of Selangor confidential secretary announced today that the Deputy MB shall be a Malay.
—> He said that they prefer it to be a Malay but it won’t be.
Not sure what’s the whole story but since the Perak DAP leader has made the statement that everyone would accept the decision, I don’t see why this is happening now.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 04.35
Please don’t underestimate the wisdom of Perak Sultan. Among all the Rulers, I only have faith in him. I think there must be a good reason behind this.
The Perak Sultan wants to show that the state can be better managed by PAS than BN, and that PAS is not an extreme as BN. Once this becomes reality, then more Chinese will support PAS rather than BN in the next GE.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 05.24
well well well , i should have voted for BN instead if i know the BA is so fragile ..
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 05.52
There’s no reason to boycott:
You’ll lose more votes than you can keep DAP. Think bout that!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 06.32
hey…
dap is no longer opposition in perak…
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 06.43
Kelantan Chinese will tell you how well they’re being treated. I don’t see any problem for this coalition. Need to show be end our vote is not a waste. Most importantly there is development for all….shud b better then be end
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 07.56
i think it would be a test for the opposition, sultan might be testing the unity of the oppositions. it was not important who becomes the mb, the most important thing is that will br make any changes to all the citizen in perak.
to me now, the unity is not there. to me, it is not who becomes to mb, it is who can make the changes that matters. or else, br is nothing different than the bn
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 08.06
‘Ngeh had said that all 3 parties will abide by the ruler’s choice.’.Libra 2.
The ruler have spoken and how on earth can one find any excuse not to honour the pledge.Ngeh,by the above press statement has check mate himself for which there is no way out.The decent thing to do is to be there for the swearing-in ceremony.You haven’t got a choice,have you?
Being in the driver seat is no easy undertaking.Your problems are just beginning and rest assured,there will be bigger ones coming your way.You have made a few stumbles early in the game.Quickly pick yourself up,brush off the dust and bounce back.The rakyat is also watching closely every move you make and believe you me they will throw you out the same way BN is thrown out this GE.
Take heart.Be strong,be fair,be honest and just keep at it.You will be ok I am sure.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 08.58
YB Lim, let tune down your cock fighting attitude.
I am Chinese, and I am very sick with you and Junior Lim’s arrongant attitide.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 09.05
I, part of Chinese Malaysia, who voted DAP in General Election-12, is deeply disappointed with the action taken by DAP!!! The reason why we VOTE for DAP, PKR and PAS because we want to have a better future, against corruptions, and most important thing is we are MALAYSIANS. We are the RAKYAT, we THOUGHT we have VOTED the right PARTY, but today, your statement here made me think TWICE whether I have voted the WRONG PARTY!! Uncle Kit, you are selfish, you only think of your own PARTY DAP, you did not think of us, RAKYAT, you have forgotten what the promises, you have forgotten WHY WE VOTE the BARISAN RAKYAT, you have FORGOTTEN why in the first place, Barisan RAKYAT won 5 states in GE12 for the first time. And if you think only yourself and DAP, the next General Election, our vote will go back to BN. And you can be proud today, but only 4-5 years left. THINK TWICE, and be SMART!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 10.07
I suggest all BA YBs in perak resign and hand over the state government back to BN. Hope by now BN will learn their mistakes. Better than BA who cannot follow BN’s coalition.
This is just Perak, not Malaysia.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 10.08
I do not disagree with Uncle Kit’s decision to stay away from the ceremony, I only think it is a bit too late for such a drastic action. We saw it coming didn’t we but we all cannot do anything about it? Do be careful when expressing yourself in this blog as it belong to the person who fought for you even before some of you were born.
But even though the drastic action is too late, and if all DAP leaders find it necessary to stay away from the ceremony, I will still support DAP no matter what happen, because DAP is the only party who upheld their political principles for a multiracial democracy in Malaysia.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 10.36
I do not see this as wise move by our respected YB Lim. If at all there was a denial it should have been before the announcement. As all 3 parties were instrumental directly and indirectly in opposition victories .
I’m sure PKR too would have preferred their candidate to be appointed as MB. But since the palace have chosen, please show our willingness to abide and I’m sure DAP being the major player would ensure rights of all Malaysians protected. Please all leaders this is the time to perform base on clear understanding as all we Malaysians wanted is the right person who work for all Malaysians. Please do not break the solidarity that we have just found. It also goes to Hadi, president of PAS.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 11.27
THE Ultimate question is, you guys want UMNO(With Cronies and MCA lapdogs in the Exco or PAS MB(With DAP majority in the Exco)? Cause if things go at it is now. UMNO will take Perak back in next GE! *Sigh*
Is it that hard to choose?
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 11.56
Be sporting la. Show to Malaysian that BA can administered too. Jangan jadikan BA bahan lawak pulak.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 12.17
Dear Kit Siang,
The issue about who becomes Menteri Besar does not arise if the opposition coalition did not work together in this election. It is the voice of the citizen that brought about this change in Perak, not DAP alone. It does not matter who is MB, does it? Think about it, what exactly are DAP comprising now by having PAS as MB? We have more than what we bargain for in this election due to the people power, now we have more chinese in the executive committee. So please show your leadership and quash all these unnecessary uncertainties circling around the coalition. Remember that the coalition is what appeals to the people, not any party alone.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 12.35
If im the perak MB, i will give the post to PKR, if DAP still want to boycott the swearing ceremony, for the sake of Barisan Rakyat and for future support in the next election. Btw, im a malay and im a PAS supporter. Im very sad because of this.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 12.49
alaneth Says:
Today at 21: 03.26 (6 minutes ago)
I am a staunch DAP supporter.
But all went wrong in Perak.
I feel the only most gentlemanly solution for this is for DAP to admit its mistake & to allow 2-3 DAP ADUNs to resign and seek by-elections again to see whether the Chinese community supports this PAS MB.
If DAP is voted again – then OK, the Chinese community says yes. If MCA is voted, we know what the Chinese community want.
===
Only monkeys will vote you again.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 13.15
Then why did DAP form a coalition with PAS in Penang and Selangor?
I presume you are gauging the ground feeling here. Now that you heard it, I suggest you get all DAP members elected to attend the swearing in.
The majority of your readers here are against your decision to boycott the swearing in.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 13.21
When DAP said they will accept whoever candidate the sultan name is a mistake. If DAP is not prepare to accept a PAS candidate, it should be made clear.
Only one way to solve this dilemma. Each party will nominate a candidate for MB other than his own party.
Sure DAP will choose PKR.
PKR will choose PAS.
PAS will choose PKR.
Isnt the situation clear enough that PKR should be the MB which is most acceptable to majority of the parties and also the Perakians.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 14.07
Aiyohhhhhhh uncle kit what the hell is happening? Look at the big picture man, big picture.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 14.37
Then why did DAP form a coalition with PAS in Penang and Selangor?
I presume you are gauging the ground feeling here. Now that you have heard it, I suggest you get all DAP elected members to attend the swearing in.
The majority of your readers here are against your decision to boycott the swearing in.
Unless you want to return the state to BN.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 15.25
Uncle kit…dun fall for it !!!! That’s what they want DAP to disrespect the Sultan.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 15.39
BA should show confident to us, the young voters. You need our vote five years later. BN and all their press are going to say and write lots lots thing about BA to make people lose confident on them. Only LOWYAT FORUM show us that many malaysian is supporting BA. Last few day, BA gain respect from all malaysian, dont let down us. Continue the government in Perak. Tomorrow is actually a history day to show us what will happe in malysia next 5 years. IF BN won Perak, who will be MB? A chinese? Still it will be Malay but may be corrupted, this new malay PAS MB will be clean than BN MB. So, why dont we accept them. Dont let us down tomorrow. You may only gain few non-muslim suporter in Perak but lose the support of chinese toward the whole nation.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 15.47
“THE Ultimate question is, you guys want UMNO(With Cronies and MCA lapdogs in the Exco or PAS MB(With DAP majority in the Exco)? Cause if things go at it is now. UMNO will take Perak back in next GE! *Sigh*
Is it that hard to choose?”
This is like one question in George Orwell’s Animal Farm.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 17.01
Yup… When DAP said they will accept whoever candidate the sultan name is a mistake. If DAP is not prepare to accept a PAS candidate, it should be made clear.
We don’t want a flip-flop party like BN. We don’t practise double standards like BN!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 17.08
The 12th general elections gave the rakyat new hope, please don’t kill it now!
Chill!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 17.09
CORRECTION on earlier posting …
Think of the greater good. We are all in this together for a better Malaysia. To achieve our goal, there will be successes, there will be disappointments and there will be sacrifices to be made. Do not let this setback get in the way. Any impulsive actions will play straight into the hands of BN.
Think of the people that had voted for DAP. The people … not Chinese, not Indians and not Malays. We all voted across racial lines to put you guys where you guys are today in KL, Selangor, Perak, Penang, Kedah and Kelantan. The political tsunami would NOT have happened if only the Chinese had voted for DAP. We turned our back on UMNO/BN because we trust you. Do not betray our trust and sacrifice ….
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 17.28
if u wanna boycott,then don’t form a coalition with pas,then it is 31 seats minus 6 seats and it is 25 seats …. then u will loss to bn ….
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 17.37
If ……IN GOOD FAITH …..PAS, DAP and the PKR submitted three names — Perak DAP chairman Ngeh Koo Ham, 47, Perak PKR treasurer Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi, 52, and Mohammad Nizar, — for selection by Sultan Azlan to lead the new state government…..
AND IN GOOD FAITH…..SULTAN AZLAN USES HIS HIGHNESS’S SOUND AND LEARNED JUDGEMENT TO DECIDE IN FAVOUR OF MOHAMMAD NIZAR- DON’T YOU THINK IT IS LUDICROUS FOR DAP NOT TO SUPPORT MOHAMMAD’S APPOINTMENT. VIS-A-VIS DOUBTING SULTAN ALZAN ‘S LEARNED JUDGEMENT. AND………..
This MOTHER of all MOCKERY
The “rolled-up sleeves”culture should be discarded in the name of political maturity
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 18.08
I’m starting dissapointed with BA/DAP. These politicians just ‘GILA KUASA’. My suggestion, Perak people just throw these BA leaders in perak into the selat melaka and let them govern the fish.
This is the part that I envy BN. They can really form the coalition.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 18.10
Uncle Kit,
Please call up anwar and nik aziz and get a consensus on this. Quick action needed. clearly PKR is the best MB candidate. Do not try to snatch this post because youu have the majority of the seats.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 18.39
DAWSHENG: “UMNO will take Perak back in next GE! *Sigh*”
UMNO may even take it NOW!
If the fighting continues, the Sultan may have no choice but to hand a minority government to UMNO.
This is the most disturbing news I have read in this blog.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 19.30
It’s a NO! NO! NO!
Don’t Fight!
You’re going to fall in the BN’s trap.
Accept it DAP,It’s a fact of life,
You cannot be so emotional.
Don’t destroy everything because of a small matter.
What important now is moving ahead and planning for the
next general election.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 20.42
Uncle Lim,
It’s really unfortunate that we have a scenario in Perak unlike other states such as Selangor, Kedah, Penang and Kelantan which is quite straightforward. On one hand, DAP won the majority state seats, more than PAS and PKR combined, which by politcal convention, should have ruled the state and an MB. However, we have a state constitution which provided that only Malay Muslim can be an MB unless Sultan of Perak waived it. On the other hand, DAP has no other choice but to let a Malay candidate from either PKR or PAS to be an MB.
The 3 political parties have made a wise decision by nominating each potential MB from their respective parties and let the Sultan of Perak exercise his royal prerogative. However, as far as the non-Malays in Perak are concerned, especially in those 18 areas where DAP wins, they might feel uncomfortable if the Sultan of Perak choose a PAS candidate to be an MB, which is now the case. As far as I am concerned, I think the non-malays in Perak should respect the decision made by their Sultan. Afterall, the Sultan cares for the people of Perak, whether they are Malays, Chinese Indians and others, right? So whatever decision the Sultan made, the people of Perak, whether Malays, Chinese, Indians and others should abide by the decision, because it’s the decision made by the Sultan, not by any political parties, whether it’s DAP, PAS or PKR.
However, the people are confused here. On one hand, Ngeh Koo Ham, the DAP chairman has stated the other day that all the 3 parties will abide by the decision of the Sultan for the MB candidate on whoever the Sultan chosen. On the other hand, now this blog stated, “The decision to appoint a PAS Assemblyman Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak Mentri Besar has caused shock and consternation to DAP leaders, members and supporters” and “As the appointment of PAS Assemblyman for Pasir Panjang Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak Mentri Besar representing the third and smallest political party in the proposed coalition has not received the mandate of the CEC, DAP Perak Assemblymen will stay away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow.” The question now is, which is which? What are DAP real stand on this matter? This has the potential to be exploited by the BN.
We now have an interesting situation here. The argument of some people here is that now the rakyat is colour-bind. That’s why they now vote for the opposition, no matter which race he/she is from. The “race” thing is outdated and irrelevant after 50 years of independence. The rakyat are mature. They knows what is right and wrong and will not easily by fooled by the media or any empty promises of BN politicians. They don’t mind which race the MB come from as long as he is fair, transparent and does the work well to serve the people of Perak. However, the issue here is not so much on race, but religion and it’s impact on social structure? Why religion, you might ask? Because PAS still habour the ambition to make Malaysia an Islamic State which really scare of the non-Malays voters. Remember, Najib has declared Malaysia is already an Islamic State? This is where BN will exploit DAP here. With Perak MB now in the hands of PAS, some people have said that DAP has “sold-out” to PAS. Even it’s not, some people have said that DAP can save all the troubles explaining to the non-malays in the 18 constituencies and providing “check and balance” on PAS in the Perak State Assembly IF the MB is from DAP or PKR.
On the other side of the argument, some people have said the rakyat is mature enough and will not be taken in by all these craps. Just look at the General Election results. With all the might of BN machineries under their belt such as TV1, TV2, TV3, NTV7, 8TV, Utusan, NST, STAR, national radios for their campaigns, the rakyat is not foolish, and instead vote for change. So this means that with all the exploitation by BN on the issue of Perak MB to the detriment of DAP, the people of Perak will not be fooled this time around. They have matured and will look for alternative source and news like the internet for information.
So Uncle Lim, it’s a 50-50 situation whether non-malays Perak will accept a PAS MB. Whatever it is, let’s unite for much more urgent issues at hand such as good governance, tranparency, fairness, equitable policies, policies based on merits, and etc.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 21.34
For christ sake..pas supporters also voted for dap where ever they stood in good spirit.Dont destroy what we are trying to built.go attend the swearing in ceremony.grow up please.We are entering into unchartered territory and we must be united and move in unison to build a strong alternative party to Bn.Dont let us down the rakyat
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 21.56
Mr.YB, We are the voters who were behind you, went all out to some extent even begged some of those to support all parties- PKR,DAP and PAS. Please don’t do anything that jeopardize, BN is just waiting for you all to make blunders.
If you fail us there won’t be a second time. We want honest and capable Malaysian to lead us, doesn’t matter even if he or she is Kadazan, Baba or Punjabi Sikh. Talking about this please look at Indian Prime Minister who lead 1.2billion people.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 22.29
It’s very strange that the destruction of DAP does not come from BN, or even the mass-controlled media, but from the horse’s mouth itself….
Please don’t self destruct the party, Uncle Kit, I beg you.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 23.21
LKS,
Just 1 test by the Sultan and immediately you shown your arrogance. The journey just began and you fell on the 1st step. How are you going to finish walking the 10,000 steps?
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 23.37
Before the election, I behaved like a nincompoop (hence limkamput) because I just wanted the DAP to win. That was why I vehemently did whatever I could to defend and confront whatever doubts that had came from various quarters. When the Penang result was known, tears were in my eyes and my throat was choked with emotion. Like many others, I have waited so long for the miracle to happen. At that time I wanted to hug Sdr Lim Kit Siang and wished that he was the one appointed the CM of Penang.
Now the election is over, I don’t think I want to be a nincompoop anymore. Someone ought to explain to me what happened in Perak. Whose decision was it to submit three names in the first place? Why not one name from the DAP and let His Royal Highness decides. Why not the other two parties (PKR and PAS), in true spirit of partnership, voluntarily withdraw their candidacies and allow the DAP candidates to be decided first. As I see it, the other two parties have no right to nominate their respective candidates in the first place.
If His Royal Highness rejects the DAP candidate, then and only then the three parties shall think of the next course of action. As see it, DAP is just too eager to form the government regardless of the consequences. A deputy MB is a deputy MB no matter how many deputies are appointed.
Finally Sdr Lim, are you still in charge of the DAP or not. Goodness me, if this important matter can be decided without CEC, how are you going to control and monitor your greenhorn (and probably some could be as corrupted as those in BN) DAP MPs and ADUNs.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 24.05
Election already over…..now is about forming a goverment and serve the country+people. I think uncle lim already forget how his party won….not only chinese votes but malay and indian as well. Why can’t worker together for the people who voted. Prove it to the be end the dawn quoted by DSAI means something new and priceless. Only few days after the CE, this is the most sad news i read. Objecting the Sultan means suicide…..furthermore where chinese face going to put ? Cakap lain but lain….we are definately not like PL la……please work together for a new dawn and future….the objective is to conquer malaysia as a whole…this should be small matter…..remember we are the one who vote for you
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 24.36
Lim Kit Siang vs Sultan
who will win ??????
of course Sultan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please reconsider your decision , kit siang !
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 24.39
Before the election, I behaved like a nincompoop (hence limkamput) because I just wanted the DAP to win. That was why I vehemently did whatever I could to defend and confront whatever doubts that had came from various quarters. When the Penang result was known, tears were in my eyes and my throat was choked with emotion. Like many others, I have waited so long for the miracle to happen. At that time I wanted to hug Sdr Lim Kit Siang and wished that he was the one appointed the CM of Penang.
Now the election is over, I don’t think I want to be a nincompoop anymore. Someone ought to explain to me what happened in Perak. Whose decision was it to submit three names in the first place? Why not one name from the DAP and let His Royal Highness decides. Why not the other two parties (PKR and PAS), in true spirit of partnership, voluntarily withdraw their candidacies and allow the DAP candidates to be decided first. As I see it, the other two parties have no right to nominate their respective candidates in the first place.
If His Royal Highness rejects the DAP candidate, then and only then the three parties shall think of the next course of action. As see it, DAP is just too eager to form the government regardless of the consequences. A deputy MB is a deputy MB no matter how many deputies are appointed.
Finally Sdr Lim, are you still in charge of the DAP or not. Goodness me, if this important matter can be decided without CEC, how are you going to control and monitor your greenhorn (and probably some could be as corrupted as those in BN) DAP MPs and ADUNs.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 24.54
If you DAP MPs boycott the swearing-in ceremony, the following will be some of the consequences.
1. Show to everyone in Malaysia that the opposition cannot work together for the good of the people.
2. Show to people in Perak that the coalition government is not united and reduce confidence.
3. Show to the Malays/Muslims that DAP is not racially-tolerant.
4. Show to the Chinese that you cannot work together with the Malays, although the Malays are the majority.
As you can see, it is an extremely bad suggestion. If you MPs show this kind of pettiness and unwillingness to work together, I will rally every single person that I know not to vote for DAP in the next election!
PAS has experience governing two states: Kelantan and Terengganu. It makes sense to me for the Sultan to appoint the PAS guy to be the MB.
Uncle Lim, if you want the best for your party, your time will be better spent ensuring that the DAP MPs perform well in the new governments (especially Penang). If the PAS MB is incapable, the people will know and PAS will suffer in the next election. Your showing of pettiness and lack of magnamity reminds me of BN.
Don’t make the same mistake of being arrogant and intolerant. Attend the swearing-in ceremony and the above effects will be reversed.
from a Malaysian Chinese.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 25.28
C’mon. U are behaving like BN. Surely power is not everything. BA only has 3 seat majority and you are dangerously destroying that too. I really thought DAP, PKR, PAS can really work together harmoniously for the people IRRESPECTIVE of race & religion. Why was his name included in the first place if this is going to be the case? Why said you’d agree to The Sultan’s choice in the first place & then when he made the decision you go back on your word? Where is your dignity? Why are you afraid of PAS? Stay in Kelantan for 1 month & get to know them better – you will be pleasantly surprised. We put BA in power to work for us, THE RAKYAT. If you are losing focus on your objective because of this, then all the struggle could be in vain & BA will be the opposition again after next PRU. Think long term!…
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 26.20
[...] No DAP CEC mandate for PAS Menteri Besar in Perak [...]
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 26.24
DAP, you are heading for own peril for your arrogant and immature action.
You cannot even keep your word to accept a candidate picked by Sultan. Disrespect to Sultan mean that Malays will forever shun DAP.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 26.34
“The decision to appoint a PAS Assemblyman Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak Mentri Besar has caused shock and consternation to DAP leaders, members and supporters.”
Not here, though, at the house of a staunch DAP supporter.
“DAP Perak Assemblymen will stay away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow.”
This, however, comes as a shock. Worse though, after one has reasonably passed the prerogative to the very understanding Ruler. If you can’t stand to your own words, not even for 24 hours, what else to expect from you guys?
Firstly, what much could Nizar mess up, with his minority of 6 out of close to 60? He’ll need all of you badly, with 28 BN representatives.
Perak, sorry, second, isn’t exactly the heartland of the economy. Personally, I perceive it as the sign-board: “Here we prototype the Bangsa Malaysia for tomorrow. Despite our narrow majority, we are living proof that race-based policies are irrelevant. More so, we play by the rules, and respect the decision of the rakyat for a non-BN government, the wish of the Sultan, the anxieties of the majority.”
[At least, as long as the chap refrains from babbling about abolishing booze and pork knuckles. And I am pretty sure, he is not going to start any of such stuff. Hell, PAS has learned the lesson in 2004, and is repeating it in 2008: Even with the Malay electorate, you don't crown kings from being die-hard fundamentalist.]
Please, Kit, get the six to go and attend happily! It is their MB, and their government-to-be that will be sworn it. How can you talk ‘coalition’ if you don’t agree with the MB (for whom you yourself have passed the choice to a third party)?
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 27.19
mr.lim, don’t ruin the success by making such a racial-oriented remark! if you are sincere in collaborating with Pas & Pkr, do backtrack your racist remark. BA is on the right track, don’t be a donkey & destroy this! It is known to all; all races has supprted for all BA component parties!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 27.24
uncle lim, my family have voted DAP for 40 years and now you are doing this to us? Maybe you did this becoz u afraid chinese will turn back on DAP, I’m not a perakian but i can assure you that my setiawan friend doesn’t mind PAS being a MB, afterall they only have 6 assemblymen, what can they do? Please keep your words to make malaysia truly malaysia. If DAP cant work with PAS, then this election will be in history for the wrong reasons…..Also, Sultan of Perak is one of the most respected sultans in history, boycotting the swearing means betrayal. then DAP forever lose the Malay support, which DAP had this election, remember, people doesnt vote along racial lines….this a good chance to show DAP is truly multiracial…..I thought DAP said they will work with everyone???
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 27.46
IN….GOOD FAITH………….PAS, DAP and the PKR yesterday submitted three names — Perak DAP chairman Ngeh Koo Ham, 47, Perak PKR treasurer Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi, 52, and Mohammad Nizar, — for selection by Sultan Azlan to lead the new state government
AND IN …………GOOD FAITH…………SULTAN AZLAN USES HIS SOUND AND LEARNED JUDGEMENT TO DECIDE ON MOHAMMAD’APPOINTMENT
DON’T YOU THINK IT IS LUDICROUS FOR DAP NOT TO SUPPORT MOHAMMAD’S APPOINTMENT VIS-A-VIS DOUBTING HIS HIGHNESS’S SOUND AND LEARNED JUDGEMENT
yOU SHOULD DISCARD YOUR “ROLLED-UP-SLEEVES” CULTURE FOR MORE POLITICAL MATURITY AND SEE THE TREES BEYOND THE FOREST
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 29.06
Hello YB,
I can understand how you feel but these issues should and could have been sorted out behind closed doors…
All the press has been positive to date regarding how the 3 parties are approaching it… one name each, live it to the Ruler to decide whether to waive the muslim/malay ruling and then all abide by it… it all sounds positive, mature and sensible.
Also, the Ruler’s decision does not marginalize any community, in fact, just like Penang and hopefully Selangor next, it could pave the way for a much more inclusive way of growing the country.
DAP and PAS both have to move away from your perceived ‘ultra’ stance in order to attract more malaysians and truly offer an alternative government to BN…
So I appeal to you right now, as someone who supported DAP and voted for PKR and PAS… to think of the bigger picture…
cheers!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 29.26
Cheh!! This is so childish. I voted for DAP & waited 50yrs for this….and now, all this is going to the dumps because of an immature act of boycotting. Grow up Uncle Kit, please…. this is the new Malaysia. This is so immature.
Not attending the swearing in tomorrow will only benefit BN. Lets just get on with the swearing in 1st. After that, sit down with PAS & just ensure that since DAP has the majority, all decisions must be made on a consensus of majority rule or rotate the MB post or whatever it takes to stay as one. I’m tired of DAP fighting with PAS, as it doesnt serve the people. We’ve come a very long way, this is no time for kindergarten fights. Pls just stop it once & for all & think of the future of BA. If the boycott stays, I’m never again voting for DAP.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 29.47
YB Lim,
I am not a member of any political party but have always supported DAP for its principles and integrity. I also made a strong financial contribution to assist the DAP in the last General Election and my son voluntarily served DAP as a Polling Agent.
I would like to tell you that I am deeply shocked by the news of PAS taking the Perak Mentri Besarship. That a PAS member is now Menteri Besar is of little importance to me. What disturbs me greatly is that, during the election, DAP frequently said that it no longer works with PAS, inspite of accusations by BN to the contrary.
I can’t believe that the MBship was given to PAS without the knowledge of the DAP CEC. It was widely known for the last few days that PAS was going to get the MBship and even the MCA criticised this possibility in the Star a few days ago.
I would conclude as follow:
(i) The DAP was sleeping on the job in the midst of such an important matter as the appointment of an MB.This is an irony as the DAP and its supporters have frequently alleged that the PM was sleeping on the job.
(ii) The DAP lied to the public; and all that are going on now, including the claim that the party’s CEC was not aware of this matter and the intention of the DAP Assemblymen to stay away from the swearing in ceremony tomorrow, are nothing but a sandiwara to further fool the members of the public.
It is a sad state of affairs that the DAP is starting off with a big lie. In view of the DAP’s denial of any knowledge of the appointment of a PAS MB even though it is the party holding the largest number of Perak State seats, I reckon that your party, YB Lim, will be held responsible for any unacceptable action that may be taken by the MB in future. This will undoubtedly be taken into account by the people in the next General Election.
Personally, I feel a big letdown and I think that, in order to win in the last election, DAP had resorted to misleading the people about its real relationship with PAS and is now trying to cover its track with further lies.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 30.11
Perak will be a dead town now.All tourist will boycott this place…
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 30.55
What a mixed reactions blog. I assume there are many DAP supporters here. And I see the DAP supporters are already split in opinion.
I am all out against a PAS member being the Perak MB.
Just see the No. of bloggers online (1200 persons now!) See how many people you have shocked in just <3 hrs).
I also believe DAP should BOYCOTT the new MB. Don’t worry for the current situation (i.e.Perak). Show the people of Malaysia, the Chinese/Indian community that you stand by what you say “DAP will not and never work with PAS”.
Why worry about the short term when you lose in the long run. Boycott & show that DAP is still relevant in the future!
If you allow PAS MB, in future you & the opposition will lose the majority of seats in Perak, Selangor, maybe Penang as well – all by the resentment from the Chinese/Indian community!!! Take my word YB Lim & be smart!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 31.11
now is 9 thirty at night…
and i hope u will change ur decision…
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 31.13
Dear Mr KS Lim, political analyst all agree that the people have swung votes to the opposition at the last elections and we all expected a new Dawn in Malaysian politics. The dust hasn’t even settled yet from the elections and it looks like lessons have not been learnt. Tell your son not to get too comfy in Penang, because you are now ignoring the people and destroying this new Barisan Rakyat. Ignore legal charters, ignore that DAP got more seats in Perak, ignore that DAP were not given a seat in Kedah!!!!! You should be bigger than this. There are no Malays, Chinese, Indians this time around. The younger generation want only Malaysians. We are not crayons to be chosen by colours. You are one of the veterans and I doubt you can read what the younger generation wants. We want change, not more racial problems. Didn’t we have enough of these type of politics. Where is the new dawn we are promised. Broken in just 4 days. Goodbye DAP, you all worked hard for this and everyone will remember the day it was destroyed. I am a chinese, I just want to live in Peace. I have no problems living in a Muslim country, I have been doing so all my life.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 31.59
This is childish, Kit. Show some maturity.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 32.29
ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE TREES BEYOND THE FOREST………………………..ANWAR AND AZIZ’S SPEAK A THOUSAND WORDS
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 32.44
Dear Sir,
Let’s not throw the spanner into what we have waiting for MANY years. We don’t need this now…BN will be celebrating knowing this crisis.
3 names were given to the Sultan(from respective parties)..all 3 agreed that they will respect the Sultan’s decision…let’s walk our talk.
Failing to stick to what has been agreed will only show the people that DAP failed to be true gentlemen.
This will create distrust from the people and the other parties. I am sure DAP needs trust from everyone, right?
Let’s accept the Sultan’s decision with OPEN heart and move on together.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 33.52
ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE TREES BEYOND THE FOREST………………………..ANWAR AND AZIZ’S SILENCE SPEAK A THOUSAND WORDS
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 34.52
Anwar…..where are you???
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 35.39
According to JedYoong’s blog, “Maybe after Guan Eng’s drastic move to abolish pro-Malay policies in Penang scared ‘em Perak royals.”
Worth reading. Please don’t get drunk with power.
http://jedyoong.wordpress.com/
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 35.45
I don’t even mind that in the current lineup, the new MB is from BN(UMNO)!
I just abhor PAS & cannot accept PAS & so are my Perak friends.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 36.00
BlueBear Says:
Today at 21: 18.39 (3 minutes ago)
DAWSHENG: “UMNO will take Perak back in next GE! *Sigh*”
Sorry, I think you refer to the wrong person. I did not mske that statement, it was utopia.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 37.02
PLEASE ATTEND THE swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow !
DON’T MESS UP !
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 40.30
Start the KOKS campaign.. you are too arrogant…
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 40.36
Please don’t do this now….
I am really disappointed, Why can’t DAP accept a PAS MB when majority of the people can accept it.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 40.51
To Dawsheng:- You’re right. I’m sorry, I just got confused with the many different posts here.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 41.00
I truly feel quite shocked and disappointed.
Don’t get me wrong, is not because of a PAS assemblyman as MB but the reaction from Mr. Lim Kit Siang.
If DAP doesn’t want a PAS assemblyman to be MB, why agree to the nomination at the beginning? DAP should have more or less expected 50% probability of him appointed as MB. I also think it was a joke for DAP to nominate a Chinese. Is DAP hoping miracle to happen or dreaming?
For the sake of the racial harmony, no way a non Malay Muslim will be appointed MB.
I bet at the moment this statement was made public, BN people will be laughing and celebrating. Please think for the coalition and the DAP supporter of Perak before making such comment which will only benefits the opposition(in this case BN).
All Perak DAP assemblyman should attend the swearing-in ceremony to show the respect of the Sultan’s decision and maturity of the party.
Maybe retraction of this boycott and public apology should also be considered.
Sad………
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 41.40
I’m writing this to appeal for your call and decision…
Seriously, Malaysian needs a rest, I bet Perakian too… Most of the people, who love the country believe that it is not really important the MB’s race after all… DAP could fight for double DMB post…
I saw somewhere that you are to remained “open-minded” with the DAP-PKR-PAS alliance… and I believe this is a very good start to the alliance…
DAP should follow what they’d decided earlier on that it will endorse whoever Sultan of Perak chosen, and I don’t want to see DAP opposing their own word by boycotting tomorrow’s sworn-in ceremony because this is a total disrespect to the Sultan of Perak and also to DAP’s own word!
I seriously hope YB Lim you could reconsider this decision…me and my family and a lot of Malay, Indian, Chinese friends voted for DAP… We don’t want to get disappointed thus soon… and we are tired of so much infighting within Opposition and even DAP itself…
Give us a rest…
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 42.15
Hey, DAP, do you think you really win 18 seats in Perak ah? In your dreams la! The Malays opt a moderate stance and vote for you, but that doesn’t mean they are ready to accept a political turn-about and live under a Chinese MB. Malaysia has yet to reach that level of open-mindedness. Moreover, your lot going around advocating the removal of NEP will never sit well with the Malays. NEP needs to be reformed, not removed (I’d have to admit that PAS is spot-on on this). Since you’ve already pledged your support to whomever HRH chooses, you better fulfill it!
You’ve obviously gone overboard thinking that Perak belongs to you. Idiots!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 43.07
Please don’t do this now….
I am really disappointed, Why can’t DAP accept a PAS MB when majority of the people can accept it.
I have been an admire of you and DAP, while others say DAP was only a party of Lim’s family. I didn’t believe them.
But now…..it really looks like DAP is becoming a Lim’s Dynasty…….
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 44.15
Infighting among DAP, PAS and PKR is the last thing the voters want to see!!
Uncle Kit, please show some generosity and sincerity to serve the people, not to fight for power!! Else DAP will lose support from people like MCA!!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 44.47
# alaneth Says:
Today at 21: 35.45 (5 minutes ago)
I don’t even mind that in the current lineup, the new MB is from BN(UMNO)!
I just abhor PAS & cannot accept PAS & so are my Perak friends.
alaneth.. your are the racist in blanket.. and you prefer to have corrupted UMNO to be Perak state government , shame on you
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 48.05
I hope Perak DAP leaders really got to re-consider
this matter.
I am from Perak. No matter PAS, PKR, or DAP
candidate becomes the MB, I am very happy.
And the fact is that, like many of those who
have mentioned above, DAP really got to
respect Sultan’s final decision & dun let
BN and MCA have a chance in attacking
you people further.
You all have agreed that no matter who
(among the 3 candidates from PKR, PAS
and DAP) becomes the MB of Perak, you
all will accept that. Now, how can you
all go and boycott the swearing-in ceremony?
What is important to us is the good-job
done in the future by PKR, DAP and PAS
in Perak.
Please respect Sultan Perak’s decision
and listen to the voice of rakyat from
Perak.
Thank you.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 49.21
Uncle Kit , In my opinion Your CEC should made an alternative stand, let the Dap Perak decide for this Delicate decision . Even though the Tough stand of the CEC in disapproval of the selection of the Pas assemblyman had already been made. The rationale of the Dap CEC should be the past bad experience of GE in 1999 ( the working with Pas in that election had most of the Dap Leader routed.) Food for thought, anyhow don’t let your foes capitalised on this MB issues
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 50.08
I agree with Jusctice_fighther, infighting is the last thing that voters want to see….infighting is just what BN is waiting and hoping for.
YB Lim, please reconsider.
TQ
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 50.27
Uncle Lim,
Please stay together. All DAP, PAS and PKR must be remained united and be supportive for each other. Don’t leave any holes for
UMNO or any BN to take advantage. Please, stay united and work
together to form the next govt. I believe in all of you when you
talk about us,Malaysian as one race with equal rights!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 51.49
LOOKS LIKE EVERY ELECTED OPPOSITION CANDIDATES ARE JUMPING ONTO THE “DECISION MAKING” WAGON, MAKING DECUSSIONS WITHOUT PROPER ANALYSIS, FORETHOUGHT AND CRITICAL THINK- LEST YOU WILL ONLY BE MAKING PROMISES YOU CANNOT KEEP- ENDING UP WITH YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH
STOP ACTING LIKE YOUNG EXECUTIVES RUNNING AROUND IN CIRCLES LIKE MICES
THIS EXPOSES YOUR IMMATURITY IN GOVERNANCE
WE DID NOT ELECT “YOUNG EXECUTIVES” WITH THEIR FEET IN THEIR MOUTHS REPRESENTING OUR RIGHTS IN THE PARLIAMENT
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 52.19
I don’t understand. If DAP wasn’t going to support a PAS Mentri Besar, why forward the name of a PAS MP to the Sultan to begin with?
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 53.05
Frankly, I am very disappointed at DAP.First they agreed to abide by the decision of the Sultan and now just because they are not elected to be M.B they protest.If they cannot agree from the beginning I dont see any future for the coalition of Barisan Rakyat.The position DAP has at the moment is of their own making.After more than 40 years they are unable to have malay candidates to contest under the DAP flag.In this respect it has fail miserably as a multi racial party.Maybe we have to reflect on our support for such race based party and just give our undivided support to PKR in the next election.Unless DAP reinvent itself it will suffer the same fate as race based party like MCA, MIC, UMNO and Gerakan.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 53.19
We, Rakyat, don’t really care if PKR, PAS or DAP becomes MB; as long as it’s not Barisan National. Isn’t our common objective to fight against BN?
Since Sultan has already made the ultimate decision, we as Rakyat will have to respect his decision as Sultan Azlan Shah stands neutral and we believe he has definitely thought it over carefully before deciding on the MB. Boycotting the swearing-in of PAS MB is indeed unwise and ultimately is biadap towards our Sultan!!!
Very very unwise!!! You don’t need such bad publicity now!!! Why do you want to shoot your own feet now???? The war has just begun!!!
Uncle Lim, please seriously reconsider and drop this decision. PLEASE DON’T DISAPPOINT US, the RAKYAT.
We’ve placed so much high hopes in the Barisan Rakyat, and please don’t do this to hamper our progress now!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 53.28
Mr Lim
i as ordinary Malaysian who support the federal opposition humbly ask DAP not to boycot the ceremony for the sake’s of federal opposition unity. it were rakyat who voted for federal opposition. not only chinese, indians or malays. dont let rakyat see federal opposition querrel about the mentri besar post. it’s like ‘belum hidupkan enjin kereta, enjin dah rosak’
mentri besar is just a post. all the decision should be made after consult all the excos.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 53.34
ARROGANCE is the reason we denied BN this time
Got it.
All you work done last 40 years are destroyed with a stroke of pen and your ARROGANCE.
All the DAP’s young promising YB and ADUN credibilty and professionalismn completely burnt and tainted.
Bye Bye!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 53.40
Be careful with your facts if you are quoting from the mainstream media.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 54.27
Well Unker Lim,
Do what you feel in your to be right, cause you will be critized anyway.
You will be damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 54.45
LOOKS LIKE EVERY ELECTED OPPOSITION CANDIDATES ARE JUMPING ONTO THE “DECISION MAKING” WAGON,
MAKING DECISIONS WITHOUT PROPER ANALYSIS, FORETHOUGHT AND CRITICAL THINKING- LEST YOU WILL ONLY BE MAKING PROMISES YOU CANNOT KEEP- ENDING UP WITH YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH
STOP ACTING LIKE YOUNG EXECUTIVES RUNNING AROUND IN CIRCLES LIKE MICES
THIS EXPOSES YOUR IMMATURITY IN GOVERNANCE
WE DID NOT ELECT “YOUNG EXECUTIVES” WITH THEIR FEET IN THEIR MOUTHS REPRESENTING OUR RIGHTS IN THE PARLIAMENT
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 55.46
Orang tua, jangan degil…. perjalanan masih jauh.
Orang tua, dengar nasihat orang muda.
Aku melayu, orang UMNO ajar aku DAP “hell-bent” anti-melayu dan anti-Islam. Demi kemualan terhadap UMNO, MCA dan MIC, aku undi DAP dan minta kawan-kawan aku undi DAP demi menafikan BN.
Bukan semua undi DAP datang dari Cina & India.
Bukan semua undi DAP datang dari Non-muslim.
Tanpa kerusi PAS, DAP dan PKR tidak boleh buat pakatan di Perak. Banyak mana pun kerusi anda, anda masih tidak cukup untuk membina kerajaan majoriti mudah tanpa PAS.
PAS dan PKR, tanpa DAP, juga mustahil akan dapat menguasai Persekutuan.
Jika benar tidak mahu bekerjasama dengan PAS, tidak perlu tunggu PAS jadi MB. Kalau sudah benci sangat, jangan buat pakatan langsung. Tidak perlu memerintah. Jadilah pembangkang sampai bila-bila. Mungkin nanti anda akan duduk sebelah menyebelah dengan UMNO di meja pembangkang.
Selagi DAP tidak mendapat sokongan dari orang Melayu selagi itulah anda kekal sebagai pembangkang. Untuk apa anda berpolitik, sangat membingungkan saya.
Sila nyatakan dengan jelas :
1. Adakah DAP anti-melayu?
2. Adakah DAP anti-islam?
3. Jika titah Baginda Sultan pun dipungkiri, adakah anda membenci fakta bahawa Sultan itu sendiri mesti Melayu dan Islam?
Kenapalah perlu memalukan Sultan sampai begini sekali? Anda betul-betul menghiris perasaan orang Melayu…
Saya fikir orang Cina berpegang kepada janji, saya salah.
Saya fikir orang Cina beradat dan berbudaya, saya salah.
Saya fikir orang Cina tahu erti bersatu, saya salah.
Dari sebelum pilihanraya sampai setelah menang, tak habis-habis bertengkar dalam parti sendiri.
DAP mengecewakan saya…. Tak ada tempat di Malaysia untuk DAP. Pergi beli pulau sendiri di tengah-tengah pasifik, perintahlah semahunya di sana.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 56.17
My conspiracy theory on the selection of PAS MB for Perak.
BN is behind this selection and is influencing the Sultan of Perak.
If PAS was to defect to BN because cannot work with DAP, what will happen?
BN WILL BE WREST BACK PERAK!!!!
UNCLE LIM ,PLEASE DO NOT FALL FOR THE TRAP.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 56.24
Please retract this statement immediately. The consequences of this selfish, childish and extremely irresponsible statement from a DAP Supremo is beyond words descriptions. Do you even realise the grave you’re digging here? The people voted for a Barisan Rakyat, a change in government for the better, a Malaysia Malaysian. In a coalition, we have to give and take. This is the way things work. The last thing we want to see is BR to kill itself due to internal conflicts which will make you guys a mere laughing stock of BN and erode confidence of the rakyat towards YOU not DAP. This clearly is a personal vendetta of yours and certainly does not reflect the sentiments of DAP Perak. DO what is right for your party, BR and most of all the people who ‘once’ believed in you.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 56.46
Dear Kit,
My family is in your Ipoh Timur constituency. Please dont mess up!!!
You can insult all of us that supported you against BN but you definitely cannot insult the Sultan of Perak. Perakians of all races ( i m chinese) is duty bound to oppose DAP for the next GE.
Make a public apology now and fast. Then retire. You have a capable son to take over. When its time to go, it is time to go.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 57.30
Mixed reactions… Totally confused but what i think is best is, the DAP ppl be present there. That’s the best we can hope for…
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 57.52
Don’t screw up the only chance for a real change in the future. DAP,PAS and Keadilan worked together for this win, don’t let it be wasted.
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 57.54
Wonder if Lim Kit Siang has been bought by BN?
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 58.44
Uncle Kit, i’m afraid you and ur company already embarrass us all the supporter of DAP. for our trust in you that we will have a bangsa malaysia future, YOU AND DAP let us all down. me and all my chinese friends will look down on DAP forever should you and your company do not walk your talk tomorrow.
YOU EMBARRASS US ALL LIM KIT SIANG, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE VOTE FOR…
as a chinese i do not agree on this, so as malay and indian i believe.
YOU EMBARRASS US
March 12th, 2008 at 21: 59.31
My humble opinion (oxymoron because humble means no opinion)
Points are:
1. The Perak Royalty had in the person Sultan Azlan Shah and his son, Raja Nazrin are two most respected and sensible royalties around.
2. If the choice of the MB was done by the sultan, due respect must be accorded to him. To stay away from the swearing-in ceremony in front of the sultan would not be a wise idea.
3. Think long-term, YB Lim.
Note 1: Election is over, I have done my small part and most likely this would be my last post for quite a while. So all the cyber friends, undergrad, limkamput, godfather, hornbill, toyolbuster, dawsheng, darkhorse, etc read more of your guys’ comments in future. Got to work lah.
Note 2: Thank you YB Lim for allowing me to post here.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 00.30
since uncle Kit doesn’t want PAS ADUN to be the MB, may be we should suggest PAS to form the state governent with BN,
and PKR and PAS also join BN to form state governent in Penang and Selangor, and DAP continues to be the one and only opposition party.
I totally cannot understand the logic and rationale of uncle Kit’s statement.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 01.00
If DAP goes on its stubborn bigoted ways, then my posters will NOT discriminate. Pls reconsider, Sir!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 01.11
Why you all worry so much? Just see what happen tomorrow. No matter what happens, we just hope for the best for all Malaysians. Uncle Kit knows what he is doing. Just that now all of a sudden, they have so much power, they also blur blur sotong liow… So please i pledge to ALL Malaysians, we vote them in, means we trust them. They are only 4 days into their job and you all expecting all to be good. Don’t forget, DAP, PKR and PAS are no saints! They are still human…
Take it easy first lar…
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 01.40
Simple arithmatic will tell you that it is impossible to have a chinese M.B. B.N has 28 representative in the state legislature , add the six and seven from PAS and PKR and you have an overwhelming Majority of malay representative DUN as compared to the 18 DAP DUNs.So where can DAP has the numerical strength to demand a chinese M.B?
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 01.49
Damn I’m disappointed..please please please DAP fanatics please accept this decision..it is the will of the Sultan..don’t talk crap about Malaysia for all Malaysians when you cannot even accept a PAS MB..PAS people are also Malaysians..please shed your old way of thinking..be more flexible and practice muhibah in making all decisions.
Do you guys want to syok sendiri for 1 term and then get booted out again for the rest of your lives or do you want to continue ruling Perak and in the future Malaysia in a coalition of parties? If you cannot work with PAS then just hand over the state back to BN, spare us your drama.
Already you are making people having second thoughts and regrets in voting Barisan Rakyat..just because you compromise for the greater good does not equal to kow-towing like MCA kow-tow to UMNO. Have you all thought about the Malays who voted for DAP and Chinese who voted for PAS? Neither party will be where they are today without the support of the other. So please reconsider and work together..otherwise we are really fu**ed.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 02.42
Totally agreed with Richard Teo points.
Tomorrow papers, this will be the headline. Basically it is what the BN and media are waiting for. Perhaps they already completed their attacking bullet about this breaking news days earlier. Telling malaysian ours vote and trust is a waste.
I never expect DAP so arrogance, never think about people who vote for. Boycott Sultan is not a good move, all malaysian will know and don’t tell me this is the 1st time such thing happen which is from a multi racial party lead by chinese…..as H.Clinton said..’shame on you’
A good suggestion is to shift the vote to PKR
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 02.44
Uncle, I am a 40 y old chinese and this is my 1st writing here after read your statement in MsiaKini. This 12th GE, we gave our votes to DAP, PAS and PKR as long as it is not BN. Denied BN 2/3 majority came just by luck as many didn’t expect it.
If you really want to scr*w things up. I can promise you all my family members will not give any more vote to DAP. You should be wise enough to give Nizar a chance just like we did .
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 03.22
Please reconsider.
We hope you would take one step forward for us Malaysian, and not one step back.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 03.25
keants Says:
# alaneth Says:
I don’t even mind that in the current lineup, the new MB is from BN(UMNO)!
I just abhor PAS & cannot accept PAS & so are my Perak friends.
alaneth.. your are the racist in blanket..
No keants, sorry, he is not. You (and I) disagree with him completely. But try to get it right, if only for a few days after 50 years of indoctrination. alaneth clearly uses no racial terms, he mentioned ‘PAS’.
Compare to
mateRealWorld Says:
[...] they are ready to accept a political turn-about and live under a Chinese MB.
mateRealWorld better took care of his terms. There is no discussion at all about a Chinese to become MB of Perak. The candidate that DAP so haplessly prefers is a Malaysian who goes by the name of Ngeh Koo Ham.
Think about it. Yesterday I already had to scold dawsheng for racial undertones.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 03.48
What the hell just happened? I thought you guys have already agreed to respect the decision of the Sultan on the appointment of the MB. To boycott the swearing-in ceremony tentamounts to disrespecting the Sultan!
This is a very deangerous and immature move from the DAP. How would the Perakians have confidence in a state government who could not even agree on the selection of the MB. Don’t you think this will also affect the working relationship in other opposition state governments, notably Selangor? How would this enhance the already fragile race relations in the country?
With such a turn of event, I don’t think its implausible if the Selangor Sultan would not consent on the DAP-PKR-PAS government in Selangor.
Good Bye DAP. I’m voting for anything except DAP in the next election.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 04.09
LKS,
As a melayu who voted for DAP I ask you:
1. After winning are you working for us rakyat or are you more concerned with rank & power like AAB?
2. Is the DAP going back on it’s word that it will accept the Sultan’s decision?
3. Did I vote the wrong guy?
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 04.34
Bro Lim please support laa this is Sultan decision maaa………..
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 04.41
Well, I think the selection of Perak MB has not been fair and transparent. With opposition winning the most seats, they should be the MB. However, the Sultan has decided not to his power and dampen the voice of the people. Quite disappointed with the decision. Don’t the people have say in this???
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 05.21
Well, I think the selection of Perak MB has not been fair and transparent. With DAP opposition winning the most seats, they should be the MB. However, the Sultan has decided not to his power and dampen the voice of the people. Quite disappointed with the decision. Don’t the people have say in this???
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 05.33
I’m a Malay and I’m so thankful with election result. As a Malaccan, I showed my support to Betty and Sim (for Dun Kota Laksamana n Parlimen Kota Melaka respectively). Please, please don’t do this Mr Lim, the MB from PAS won’t be able to make decision without the consent of DAP and PKR and vice versa should the DAP or PKR is the MB. It’s a win win situation as the state will have more representatives from DAP. Being the MB doesn’t mean he will have the sole power of decision making, I’m sure Ir Nizar himself know that.. Don’t do it at time like this, all eyes on us now, looking for mistakes, u know the media still haven’t learn their lesson! Please, please, take back the decision.If u ask me it doesn’t matter who’ll become the MB, be it from DAP, PKR or PAS. As long as he can do his job and lead the people, that is all it takes, regardless of race. Let us become one strong group that will be the voice of the people wholly. DEB didn’t work, everybody knew that. Lim Guan Eng’s decision is a wise one, even Hadi Awang said it’s a wise decision as DEB only benefits the cronies and not the people. Come on now, you had the best team and let’s prove it, let set aside racial stuff, let’s work as one strong unit in Perak!!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 05.44
LIM KIT SIANG!
WHAT ARE YOU DOING???!!! FFS you guys are already falling apart before you even start!
ATTEND THE DAMN SWEARING-IN CEREMONY!
Show a united front!
Stop being so narrow minded, that is EXACTLY what they want you to do, the appointment for a PAS MB was calculated to get the exact reaction from DAP. Don’t fall for it.
Work it out with your coalition partners, you guys agreed that you would ACCEPT WHOEVER the Sultan chooses, STICK TO IT or you will be just as bad as the bunch of BN shits we just kicked out.
GO ATTEND THE CEREMONY, FFS.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 05.54
Dear Uncle Kit, the people of Perak have given you their utmost support, now you respect their wishes and the decision of the Sultan. If Fong Po Kuan can do a U-turn , so can you.
Respect..
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 06.20
What fighting already before honeymoon is over? I rest my case. The DAP should respect the Regent’s decision. After all you collaborated to ask him to arbiter and to drag him into this issue that was supposed to be resolved between yourselves. Between yourselves you could not even resolve to submit one name – that of the person representing the Opposition party that secured most state seats. So what kind of leverage DAP has in this coalition of Barisan Rakyat or Barisan Alternatif, whatever you call it?
The Opposition (Barisan Rakyat comprising DAP, PAS & PKR) had campaigned successfully the 2008 general election on the platform that UMNO/BN were wrong to leverage on communal issue of Ketuanan, and that race should not be a factor….
What we’re seeing now is that race is. That’s reality but it is anomalous because it was DAP/PKR & PAS that told UMNO/BN that it ought not to bve the case!
Wasn’t it true that it was PAS (supported by Anwar’s PKR) who objected to DAP’s Ngah Khoo Ham being made Mentri Besar (even if DAP won the majority of Perak’s state seats) on technical grounds that under the state constitution, the menteri besar had to be a Malay Muslim? Have PKR and PAS say that they would help amend the state constitution in this regard? I don’t recall.
In Selangor it seems the state ex co is also in contention. Maybe even the deputy menteri besar post, whether (1) or (2) has to be a Malay Muslim. Have PKR and PAS say that they would help amend the state constitution in this regard? I also don’t recall.
The results of 2008 general election show all the three Opposition parties did well, which due to DAP’s supporters voting for PKR – and PAS – in straight fight against BN’s candidates, PKR did as well as DAP in terms of winning seats and PAS also did well though not as well as the other two.
Yet out of the 5 state seats that fell to or continue in Opposition parties’ control, outwardly at least PAS benefits most when its candidates take top MB posts in 3 out of the 5 – Kelantan, Kedah and now Perak, in each case with PKR taking side of PAS (quite reminiscent of 1999 when the Terengganu Government passed the Hudud and Qisas bill which drew much opposition, and eventually prompted the DAP to leave the Barisan Alternatif coalition when PKR refused to back DAP (even though their mutual multiracial agendas are purportedly congruent and similar) and instead stayed on in collaboration with PAS…
Isn’t it also true that just in the wake of the successes of 2008 general election, PAS leaders (principally president Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang) had announced that PAS (with 2/3rd majority) planned to introduce Hudud (Islamic) criminal law in Kedah to become part of the state laws, despite the same move made in Kelantan and Terengganu before had sparked controversy as it ran contrary to the Federal Constitution??? Why is it that we don’t hear either PKR and DAP publicly opposing what Hadi Awang say?
Is this a sign of things to come that in place of UMNO’s hegemony to which MCA/Gerakan were criticized by DAP to be subservient there, is now evolving, in the incubatory stage, another kind of hegemony – a theocratic hegemony by PAS – to which even the DAP is subservient in consideration of the benefit of “Penang jewel” obtained from the loose tripartite cooperation of DAP, PAS and PKR? But apart from crown jewel of Penang what about Malaysia?
I have said before the leopard never changes its spot – and I mean PAS truly committed to its theocratic agenda, which as Lee Wang Yen said, it is willing to make temporary concessions, wear a softer face (one recalls that before elections it dared not even mention the forming of Islamic state) before slowly, unveiling the true face when it consolidates positions and power (as it has done so in considerable extent in this 2008 general elections, and hence the daring mention of introducing hudud in Kedah!)
Come next elections if Opposition parties win more and even dislodges the BN, is there a doubt that PAS will not be doing even better and asserting its will to form the Islamic state in the face of acquiescence of Anwar and PKR, not siding then with DAP on principles (as Anwar and PKR repeatedly had not do so in the past as well) and the helplessness of the DAP (resorting to feeble and ungracious boycott of the swearing-in ceremony for Perak Mentri Besar scheduled tomorrow when the DAP was party to agree to the Regent’s determination?????)
My stand is that there is wisdom in the MB’s position being given to a Malay because that is in the state constitution, because DAP still has the majority in the State executive council but most important Non Malays should behave themselves : just because you ‘win’ the elections – and with considerable help from Malays – is no excuse to step on Malay community’s sensitivities, custom and usage and institutions like Mentri Besar position based on race – these things will take time to evolve and change, coming from Malays themselves. In Penang, you can operate on merits on appointments but no reason to immediately broadcast that you wanted to do away with the NEP to make some Malay supporters wary of you and your detractors on the other side to whip on sentiments against you….
That there is wisdom (unity of all races in Parak inclusive of Malaysian Malays identification with Opposition’s cause) in having a Malay as the MB according to existing constitution (until such is changed) is but one issue quite separate from the other in which you don’t seem to have the support of PAS, backed constantly by PKR on any major issue – and my concern is if the other two can unite against the DAP on the MB issue, wouldn’t they do so onbn the Islamic state issue later on when and if they could dislodge BN from seat of power??? You’re slowly becoming to PAS/PKR what MCA is to UMNO in both instances used – and your supporters used as well. When are we going to realise that we are always taken for a ride?
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 06.41
LKS, I am really DISAPPOINTED that you made your opposition statement publicly, our wish is to make malaysian malaysian, BA is on the RIGHT track but now you break it, I am considering to MOVE MY VOTE AWAY FROM DAP in next general election …
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 06.49
uncle,
please listen to the feedback; attend the swearing ceremony tomorrow;
remember, it’s the cyberworld that get you to where you are today… by listening the feedback…
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 06.57
POLITICIANS ARE ALL DEAF!!!!!!
THE RAKYAT HAVE SET ASIDE THEIR DIFFERENCES, WHY CAN’T YOU??????????????????
http://unwantedcitizen.blogspot.com/2008/03/warkah-untuk-barisan-rakyat.html
http://unwantedcitizen.blogspot.com/2008/03/pas-mb-are-you-afraid.html
SUCH A TURN-OFF.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 07.17
It is a coalition government. I think we must respect our Sultan’s approval. YB, you should opposed when 3 names submitted to Sultan for selction, not after selection was made. Sorry YB, I don’t agree with you. BN is waiting for a chance to retain the state if anything collapse between DAP, PKR and PAS. Please don’t boycott the ceremony.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 08.24
Hahaha…I never believe DAP and PAS can cooperate. Pact between DAP and PAS is impossible.Uncle Lim already show it. DAP is going to be opposition again next election. It is better that way!!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 09.31
Dear Lim Kit Siang,
I am disappointed with you. You must look at the big picture here. DAP did not win this election alone, but with DAP-PKR-PAS. If you have your any disagrement with PAS, work it out internally. I do not see any issue with PAS ADUN appointed as MB.
Make me believe that DAP is changing the face of Malaysia politics.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 10.15
“The Malays opt a moderate stance and vote for you, but that doesn’t mean they are ready to accept a political turn-about and live under a Chinese MB. Malaysia has yet to reach that level of open-mindedness” or maturity…
have to agree with mateRealWorld says
it was a surprise jolt for DAP to have won many seats. but there should be give and take. the bumis at the moment are not very comfortable havin a non-bumi as their MP. they need time to digest! it’s just a beginning. give them more time to have trust…
time will tell, as long as DAP, PKR and PAS are willing to work together as a team. do not kill malaysian malaysia… people will lose faith on DAP…
at times, i do feel that BN UMNO have got somethin to do with it. or just maybe, the majesty want to see the reaction from this so call barisan alternatives if he were to choose the lowest winner. can they work together as one???
please be there… for malaysian malaysia!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 11.21
LKS and the DAP CEC, do not use your posteriors to think otherwise DAP will be sent to the cleaners!!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 11.27
DAP better in opposition forever by the way Uncle Lim attitude.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 12.16
please do not it screw up…. please please… it took us 50 years to reach where we are today… to actually denied BN 2/3 majority with 3 major races coming together…
ATTEND the swearing ceremony tomorrow… OK!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 12.46
Saudra Lim,
We are disappointed. We are no more the opposition. Please remove this 40 year old mentality.
A decision (and stand) must have been made before meeting the The Sultan, not now. Go along and support it. You can change it in one or two years time – if absolutely necessary. Proof PAS is not good enough. Innocent before proven guilty – Simple democracy and co-operation.
Are we going (backwards) again in the style of Barisan National – good riddance, Is this what we all worked for?.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 13.01
Very disappointing, Mr Lim.
Look at the bigger picture.
Your Perak chairman said DAP will respect the Sultan/Regent’s decision.
If your chairman was not authorised to decide, disciplie him!! Why have him as the chairman in the first place then.
The BN is going to have a field day.
The Sultan/Regent will not trust the word of any DAP leader in the future – is this what you want?
Can the Rakyat trust the DAP?
PLEASE RECONSIDER MR. LIM.
Much effort has gone into arriving the position the opposition parties have today.
Please bear in mind the BIGGER PICTURE and let us move forward.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 13.29
Luckily mine was racial undertones.
You mention any Chinese, Malay or Indian, you are a racist. A word can be wrong, a sentence could be worst, an article can be a disaster, a statement Uncle Kit’s just released, can explode!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 13.36
Dear YB,
I am not sure what happened behind the scenes but the unilateral release of such disagreement within a week of mandate is regrettable. We expected more from the opposition. KEY IMMEDIATE ACTIONS required:
A JOINT STATEMENT ON THE MATTER WITHIN 24 HRS. We are losing confidence of the opposition by the second.
ATTEND THE SWEARING IN CEREMONY. I think there is nothing wrong with PAS being the MB, given there are DMBs. However, PAS MUST CONCEDE to a rep in Kedah. I do hope DAP have PAS exco reps in the Penang council.
MANAGE YOUR PRESS STATEMENTS AMONGST OPPOSITION over the coming weeks. If you have been following the mainstream media, they have been spinning all you opposition in very negative light post election, and you all are giving them every oppty to do so. Pls dont be like BN where everyone is conflicting each other in press statements.
MANAGE YOUR OPPOSITION INTERNAL CONFLICTS INTERNALLY. We are in fragile times, BN are not stupid, this can be easily used as an opportunity to regain popularity.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 14.48
i voted for nga kor ming in pantai remis state seat.
i voted for ngeh koh ham for the beruas parliamentary seat. and btw, i’m a malay. all this while my vote has always go to BN.
lim kit siang, i wud seriously give a second thought on the next election if u continue to act like this. we need a strong opposition.
not a strange opposition…..
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 15.49
SDR Lim
As an Indian who thinks God has answered our prayers, let me give you my views.
Let goodwill prevail and prove to the racist BN Govt that you are willing to walk the talk. PAS of ten years ago and PAS of today is very different. I personally know of 100s of Indians and Chinese who campaigned and voted for PAS. We need internal strength to face the greater evil called BN.
Please look at the bigger picture and call off the boycott. Let PAS have the CMship, if indeed it is the best choice – at least from HRH the Sultan’s POV. With just minimal participation, PAS cannot do anything much against your collective wish.
In fact, I believe enough damage has been done by this call and the main media is going to have a field day tomorrow.
Most importantly, you need to give a reassurance to the general Malay populace that they are not losing anything by putting in the opposition in control of the government. Just imagine yourself in thier shoes, and I am sure you will understand thier feelings of insecurity during this evolving times. Do not – under any circumstances – allow the evil BN regime to get any excuse to sabotage the BR.
I am beginning to get tremors when I see the sleepy PM making racist remarks against the new Penang government. Please go slow on any reforms. Make them digestible. We need the support of the Malays as much as the Chinese and Indians.
Please do not do anything that will compromise on what we have won so far.
Please RECONSIDER your decision to boycott and instead extend your full support of the PAS CM.
God bless!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 18.03
PLEASE ATTEND THE CEREMONY UNCLE LIM!!! This is only our hope to change the corrupt government.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 18.34
Is this the true color of Lim Kit Siang?
You are no better than Pak Lah and KJ!
I am ashamed and have no face to see my Malay friends.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 19.03
Dear YB.LKS, please withdraw your unmatured statement and let the DAP candidates to attend the ceremony. First of all you have no bloody respect for the States Sultan, how come you can be leader, luckly you not the PM of this country, so arrogant and egoistic. From my perception you are not fit to be member of parliment and the public too not need a outdated person as a MP.
It’s time for you to keep your bloody mouth shut and keep quite.
Futhermore you have no right to comment about the appointment of the Perak MB because you are onl;y a member of parliment. So, stay away from this issue.
I’m a Perakian
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 19.27
i felt a bit disapointed on this decission , guess is not wise to do this to boycot the swearing in ceremony ! you hv submitted the list , and is up to Sultan to decide,,, now u said boycot ??? you shud hv not to submit the name at fisrt place…. look really ugly >>>
this is not the true spirit of Barisan Rakyat ,,, please , give them a try… by the way , we got D CM….
I vote for DAP in PRU12….
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 19.30
Dear YB.LKS, please withdraw your unmatured statement and let the DAP candidates to attend the ceremony. First of all you have no bloody respect for the States Sultan, how come you can be leader, luckly you not the PM of this country, so arrogant and egoistic. From my perception you are not fit to be member of parliment and the public too not need an outdated person as a MP.
It’s time for you to keep your bloody mouth shut and keep quite.
Futhermore you have no right to comment about the appointment of the Perak MB because you are onl;y a member of parliment. So, stay away from this issue.
I’m a Perakian
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 19.32
The Sultan gave the MB post to PAS. Why? Many think it only fair to have a MB from DAP or PKR since they’ve more seats than PAS. Might be, the Sultan stands by the constitution to only have a Malay Muslim MB. Then why not from PKR? Maybe nobody in PKR is qualified? Maybe some other reason that evades me.
Anyway, the final conclusion from me is why the Sultan is stepping in now when the BA is in power? Why never such a thing when BN is in power? Are we missing something here? Something’s wrong with the picture?????
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 19.36
I know it be very painful for DAP to face the ppl in perak; but let’s really prove that DAP can work PKR & PAS; forget about who get the CM post; think long term…. our future is in your hand…
again, please DO NOT boycott the ceremony!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 19.48
am really sad that this happens.
BTW Kit Siang you are elected by u and u are not the last person to approve, the flow is like this..
We vote, you get elected, u decide who to submit as MB candidate (at this point you should agree who ever chosen, these candidates should be agreed upon by the incoming state govt component parties), then and only then the Sultan or Regent selects. And what he selects should be final.
If you boycott, would it not be seen as a rebeling subject of the state!!!
You are a joke, did you not thought of the repercussion when you click sent on this press release?
Did you think at all when you sent this statement to the press!!
Think now is too late.
Thought it was a change for better, even when the stock market fell 10% I wasn’t upset, even though I lost more money, thought in the longer term is better for our children. Perhaps not now.
Do remember one of the main reason BR was voted in wasn’t because we like/love BR it is because we thought we need change from BN. Those who voted for BR was because they hated BN.
BN will have a field day for the next few days or even 5 years.
BR u better work not doubly hard now perhaps three times.
Lim Kit Siang just made BR’s vision as the next govt much more challenging
Really SAD
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 20.02
“When are we going to realise that we are always taken for a ride?” Jeffrey
I hope today Jeffrey, today!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 21.08
DAP should not boycot the swearing in. You are no longer an opposition. You are the government of Perak. There must be a reason for this choice.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 21.12
It a shame that the lowest majority can be a MB.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 21.30
Sir,
Your man, Ngeh, came out on TV agreeing to accept the decision by the Regent. Surely this was with your agreement!
So what are you trying to do?
Remember that a lot of Malays and Indians also voted for DAP this time.
Please turn up for the swearing-in. Certainly Ngeh should.
Don’t be a j a c k a s s.
Thank you.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 21.53
Dont jeopardise the opposition coalition. Please attend the ceremony.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 23.28
Remember where we are now…
Im Malay and denied BN badge during last PRU and support the winning opposition namely DAP at my area. Theres no racial issues and PAS giving full support eventhough without their candidate.
Denying Sultans decision is unacceptable.Don’t start a flame as people are watching, please respect AND DONT BOYCOTT the ceremony.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 24.14
Dear Uncle Kit,
Please attend, as earlier agreed to abide by the Sultan’s decision. It will be a laughing ass esp from BN’s group! I know you are not happy about the decision, same for us too! Please don’t behave like young school boys. After all, Your birthday wish already granted!
To all the Perakians, if you are not happy can always consider move to Penang!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 24.22
Come on Unc Lim, be a sport….. It is the Sultan’s perogative to appoint the MB and I reckon he has given much thought on the appointment of PAS’s representative. He has also been gracious enough to create 2 deputy MB positions to serve the community..(a multi-racial) pack. Your call for all DAP reps to boycott tomorrow’s swearing in ceremony is indeed very NAIVE!! Don’t behave like the (BN sour grapes) who have boycotted YAB Lim Guan Eng’s ceremony yesterday.
The people have voted the opposition for a reason….they want to see CHANGE….’integrity, transparency, unity’ are few of the virtues that people long to see in the new government. So, please live up to DAP party’s promises.
So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE attend tomorrow’s swearing ceremony, hey PAS reps attended your sons’ ceremony didnt’ they? So, come on….. be humble and act wisely.
All eyes are on the new coalition now…..so your action counts!!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 24.32
YB.LKS I think there is enough comments has been displayed here. By now you should realize your stupid mistake. Please correct yourself and stop from proceeding this matter.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 24.46
Don’t waste those Chinese who vote for PAS and PKR and Malay who vote for DAP. I feel very disappointed with Lim decision.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 24.50
yipee, samy can be mb !
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 24.52
Dear Mr Lim
I’m a malay and staying in Bercham Ipoh. For 12th GE my family decided to vote for DAP….Last GE we voted for BN…We decided to vote for DAP because we already fed-up with BN… & we believe new collaboration between PKR DAP PAS will make a big change to our political scene. BUT after read your statement I am very sad..sad sad.
Honestly I do prefer the candidates either from PKR or DAP to be the new MB for Perak. BUT I respect decision made by Istana. For me who ever been chosen it does not matter..the most important no more BN rules this state.
MR LIM
I know you very well since 80’s . I know your political style. Remember this day your old styles are no more valid. If you still sustain your old style …I strongly believe…the next GE you will not be able to see what you have see now…
Mr Lim
Remember…this situation will make our “enemy” laughing. and definately they will take for granted. So who will loose…DAP? PAS? PKR?…The big loser will be “the rakyat”. Mr LIM don’t be selfish and childish…You said the BN goverment so arrogant…but I don’t see any diffrences between you and BN.
Mr LIM
I’m proud to be a “new malaysian” . PLS don’t spoilt it…
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 24.53
Anyway, Uncle Kit only said DAP will stay away from the ceremony, maybe only 3 feet away.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 25.18
Uncle Kit,
On 8th March, 2008, there was a tsunami swing of votes towards a United Opposition. People were willing to vote against BN for their excesses and arrogance, they did not care which opposition party.
The votes were cast across racial lines, for whatever agenda each voter had.
Now you are going to lead a no-show, effectively thumbing your nose at the Sultan of Perak’s choice, when your Perak DAP leader was reported to say that DAP did not mind who was chosen to be the new MB.
I think it is not going to look good for you and the party. Think of a better way to express dissatisfaction. The media will play it up and BN will gloat over this. Uncle Kit, think hard of another way of handling this. The journey has just started -> you have to try to explain to your people the situation. I know it is difficult. A no-show at the swearing-in is not the best DAP performance you can put up. Think…think…hard.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 25.32
The DAP’s decision to boycott the swearing in of the PAS MB is not a racial one. Please do not find racial statements where none is made. To appoint a PAS MB in a multi-religious state like Perak is a slap in the face for many. People should stop saying that they are ashamed to face their Malay friends like one poster above. NOTICE FOR PEOPLE WHO CANNOT READ WELL! THE DAP NEVER REJECTED A MALAY MB! HELLO?!! IT HAS NEVER REJECTED A MALAY MB!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 28.10
If it has to be a Muslim, PKR should get it. PKR gained more seats than PAS.
Sokong
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 28.41
Sir,
I think you just proved one thing. You guys politician, were all just the same… the BN, and even the BA, you urged us to vote say that its the interest of rakyat, but its seem its just for your personal interest. So i here by relinquish my right to vote.
Called me un-Malaysian if you may, but i just tired to be your pawns.
NO, THANK YOU.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 29.20
If DAP doesn’t agree rep from PAS to be MB, then his name should not been submitted to the Regent. Now DAP wants to object after the MB has been chosen from the 3 names. I think it is too late.
You risk to destroy all the goodwill that DAP has just won! Don’t do it. The Rakyat doesn’t want to see UMNO’s style bully practiced by DAP.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 29.51
foolish foolish foolish! please retract!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 30.35
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/3/12/nation/20614672&sec=nation
_________________
Read this line
“We would like to impress upon the people that all three parties have unanimously agreed to fully endorse whichever candidate is chosen,” he said at the Perak DAP headquarters.
Now what?? Said one thing and different thing tomorrow????
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 31.30
Uncle Lim,
I am a chinese and voted DAP.
But sad to say that you are making a wrong move.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 31.44
I think the win in Perak caught DAP by surprise. They are only ready as a opposition party bcos everyone know that in Perak only a muslim can be a MB.
But by winning 18 seats ,suddenly it is possible to have a non chinese MB!!!.
Uncle Lim , your target is to deny 2/3 majority for BN in DUN or Parliament, you already surpassed the target. Let’s work together with PAS-PKR and wait for another 4 years and win 2/3 majority seats in the next election and change the constituition to have a non muslim MB!!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 31.51
come on laa uncle Lim. Perak doesn’t belong to u, DAP, PAS or PKR. It belongs to Perakian ppl!!! Stop being childish n racist!!! I think what u need now is a holiday.
By the way, if u don’t know, Sultan Perak is one of the most respected person in Malaysian history. If u ever try to dishonour him, u’ll dishonour most of Malaysians. Keep that in mind!!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 32.05
dear uncle kit,
you are a wise man.
please think again before boycotting tomorrow’s swearing in ceremony.
we have come a long way. please do not disappoint the rakyat.
attend it with an open heart. accept it. work together with the new MB.
remember, in order to just change it, we have to change first.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 32.31
shame ! shame !!! why fight for the CM posted ??? all politic = power ??? people can vote u this time , people oso can kick u out next time !!! same for PAS CM , if he is not performing , we shall kick his ass out !! and impeach him…… through not confident vote to him….
why do this to boycot ?#$^^$@~!%&*(((((
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 32.37
Be it DAP or PAS or PKR or even ABC, CDE, EFG ….the truth is that… we are all malaysian… as a whole to fight for welfare, to develop all the states…. and start to serve the people here…..
since u are the leaders as appointed please show the a open minded leadership …
i think the supporters coming from different ages… the change of this drastical GE results were from the youngster who has started to open their minds to accept malaysia as only 1 bangsa that is Malaysian… but the old generation may still shadow with old mentality…
anyway…. if this persists………. BN will laugthing ….
may be just combine PKR/PAS/DAP to form a new Parti ….. and name it as Parti Malaysia Baru and all members are satu bangsa Malaysian…………… which coming from single race called Malaysian.. and i still believe new race call Malaysian…..
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 32.47
Top Stories in the STAR now:
DAP to boycott Perak MB swearing-inLatest News
The DAP central executive committee (CEC) has voiced its unhappiness over the appointment of Perak PAS secretary Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin as Mentri Besar of Perak.
Tomorrow it will be their headline and UMNO/BN will be laughing and gain votes from BA!! You want this to happen Kit??!!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 33.29
The DAP Perak only 3 days already mabuk of power,1 week before election Poh Kuan case.Regret donate to DAP 200 bucks.Very disrespectful of the Sultan.I ‘m a Chinese what wrong with a PAS MB.Opposition controls Perak is already a bonus what more do you want? What different is it now with DAP and BN now care only for themselves and not the people.Advice your goons in Perak to walk the talk on who ever appointed by the Sultan will abided and it is in every news media.You have gone so far and DAP is resposible if the Barisan Rakyat crumbles where our hope of CHANGE crashes.You create the word CHANGE and you screw it.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 34.21
I have great respect for Uncle Lim but this time, regretfully, I have to say, “NO” to him.
It is clear that for too long in the Opposition bench has made LKS miss the forest for the trees. The appointment of MB is the sole prerogative of the Sultan. By boycotting the swearing ceremony, what are you telling us the voters. Does that not show a great disrespect for the Sultan or Regent?
You want the apple and yet you want to eat it. If that is so, then let BN form the Perak government and DAP can remain forever as an Opposition.
Granted, that you wanted to show the DAP members of your bravado stand and played it to the gallery that you have stopped the encroachment of PAS. It is better to work with the devil you know that the devil (UMNO) that you don’t know.
Your actions show that you are more of a unionist than a stateman. Politics is an art of the impossible and you are nothing more than an oppositionist. Please start to behave like a ruler than an oppositionist. Maybe you enjoy to be the Parliamentary Opposition Leader, a post now taken over by PKR.
Lose a battle and win the war. The war is not with PAS BUT with UMNO. Get your priorities right. A PAS MB will be just a figurehead as the power behind the MB throne is DAP. Get as many EXCO positions and control the State Cabinet.
Better be the kingmaker than be the king.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 35.05
IMPORTANT!!! IMPORTANT!!!
PLEASE LISTEN CAREFULLY YB LIM!! WE HOPE YOU READ THIS ONE HERE!!
WE ARE SOME STRONG DAP SUPPORTERS. SINCE IT HAD BEEN SAID THAT THREE PARTIES WILL SUPPORT WHOEVER SELECTED BY THE SULTAN(ESPECIALLY WHEN 3 CANDIDATES WERE SUBMITTED TO SULTAN), WE THINK THAT IT WOULD NOT BE WISE FOR DAP ASSEMBLYMEN TO STAY AWAY FROM THE SWEARING IN OF PERAK MB.
PLEASE IMMEDIATELY CALL ANWAR IBRAHIM TO RESOLVE THIS AMICABLY IF POSSIBLE. WE KNOW ANWAR SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE HERE.
IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO SHOW IT TO ALL THAT PKR, DAP AND PAS AT LEAST ARE ABLE TO COME TO SOME CONSENSUS.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 35.51
LKS,
you are being STUPID for instructing your Perak assemblymen not to attend swearing in tomorrow. Why put up your posting blog at this time, you are being dishonest. I voted DAP and asked my friends to vote for you. Your own enemy is not BN or UMNO BUT you including your CEC. You deserve to lose big in the next GE and I believe you are ARROGANT BASTARD
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 36.09
I am a True Blue Perakian. I know they are many many of us Perakians who are concerned with PAS for what they use to stand for. Forgive us but honestly we are very afraid of the green tide. Why should there be any surprise? Remember DAP did not work with PAS before 8th March 08. How do you expect DAP and PAS to suddenly start kissing and hugging overnight. It certainly takes time right? If it does, wouldn’t DAP be seen as hyprocrites too. Cakap tak serupa bikin? How are they going to answer to those of us who voted for DAP and do you think people would wholeheartedly support DAP in future?
First, PAS has to prove it has no motive to exert its agenda and project its progressive and professional image. All this coorperation takes time. No doubt, we need to be sensitive to other side but is ANYONE sensitive to DAP on this? If we are colour blind, why not give the MB to the party that wins about 3X more seats than the next guy?Furthermore, we know DAP would definitely be more than fair to the others? Who can’t ANYONE be sensitive to what DAP is facing by giving the post to PKR (remember not DAP!) Still a Malay right?
Anyway, all have been decided and I am sure all DAP and all the parties would work together to make Perak the most progressive coalition government in Malaysia. However, please be sensitive to DAP and all Perakians who have difficulty in accepting this decision, just like you have been sensitive to all the other parties. I am sure we would move forward with Barisan Rakyak with each party proving they have no hidden agendas but only the PEOPLE from ALL RACES at heart. Bravo!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 36.29
LIM KIT SIANG!
WHAT ARE YOU DOING???!!! F F S you guys are already falling apart before you even start!
ATTEND THE D A M N SWEARING-IN CEREMONY!
We voted you guys in NOT to see this kind of immature egoistic selfish sulking drama bs.
Work it out with your coalition partners, DON’T INSULT the Sultan. Don’t insult the voters.
You guys AGREED that you would ACCEPT WHOEVER the Sultan chooses, WALK THE TALK and STICK TO IT or you will be just as bad as the bunch of BN s h i t s we just kicked out.
GO ATTEND THE CEREMONY, F F S.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 37.36
To mycroft,
I feel ashamed facing my Malay friend because we, together with many Barisan Rakyat supporters including Harris Ibrahim and Raja Petra Kamarudin untireless promoting DAP as a multi racial party irrespection of race and religion.
You said “To appoint a PAS MB in a multi-religious state like Perak is a slap in the face for many. …” What is the problem here?
ARROGANT isn’t it?
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 39.16
can anyone stab vincent to death? what kind of comment is that?
there must be a reason why such a wise sultan make a decision like this… what will be the factor, could it be the feeling of malay in perak? could it be the quality he saw in Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin?
…or could it be a TEST for barisan rakyat?
if the 3rd one is the answer the barisan rakyat is screwed by now!!!
even your attendance at the ceremony tomorrow will not save barisan rakyat…
next time THINK before you act, Uncle Kit, or should i call you YB…
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 39.25
If the 6 PAS rep cross to BN, what DAP & PKR will be? Opposition.
Hey, I thought all idiots are with BN. Are we thinking with our brain or what? Use common sense. Whatever DAP thinks, DAP must understand that DAP have won all the Chinese majority seats. The rest are Malays(split between BN,PKR and PAS). We want to be in Government only this term? And lose forever after? Give your respect to HRH Sultan of Perak. The constitution says only a Malay can become MB. Only PAS has majority Malays. PKR although more seats than PAS but less Malays. DAP should understand that with current simple majority we can’t even amend any rules. Period. Don’t be arrogant-the same thing that BN did.Understand the scenario? Sudah beri betis, lagi mahu peha kah?
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 39.50
Sir,
I think you just proved one thing. You guys politician, were all just the same, the BN, and even the BA… Say one thing, and change it the minute after … you urged us to vote say that its the interest of rakyat, but its seem its just for your personal interest. So i here by relinquish my right to vote.
Called me un-Malaysian if you may, but i just refused to be your pawns. Not anymore.
NO, THANK YOU.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 40.34
YB Lim,
I believe you know better. Whichever way you take tomorrow, I support you. Thanks for reading.
Lorkh
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 41.40
I do not understand the reason behind the boycott of the ceremony, as I gathered from the news that the three parties agreed to leave the selection to the royal and once a decision is made, everybody should support it. Secondly, we dislike BN and MCA because they craved for position and not the benefit of the people. Now, it seems that you behave like one of them. It is utterly disappointing to hear that. I personally believe that once this PAS CM take his office, he will also learn to listen to all parties, including DAP. Thirdly, I think, Ngeh may not have the experience at this stage to take the position of CM as he is too young in politics. He will have to cope with too many problems if he was the CM of Perak. Thus, I suggest that DAP should attend the ceremony with gratitude and understanding that serving the people is more important than who should be the CM. Afterall, there are some principles being agreed by the three parties, isn’t it?
A DAP supporter
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 41.59
haha hahaha hahaha bravo lim kit siang
the key words are power sharing or is it power hungry for you
go talk to your son or ronny
these are the faces of malaysian politics today
come PRU13 and you boycott the swearing in tomorrow we in the cyber world will make sure you’re voted out
“malaysian malaysia?” read the law books
don’t be so damn ignorant
the sultan is testing the fragile co-operation between dap-pkr-pas and mind you he’s one of the smartest sitting in the majlis raja-raja
are you that naive??????????????
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 42.06
Mycroft I agree with you. DAP’s rejection was not based on race but the mere fact that PAS won the least seats between the three parties.
However, i suspect there are two reasons behind this:
1) DAP believes majority of Chinese in Perak did not cast their vote for a PAS govt, worried for a backlash. I guess the answer is in all the above comments. Overriding majority seem ready to be BANGSA MALAYSIA.
2) PAS’ exclusion of DAP rep in the Kedah exco council which I feel amust be corrected in return for DAP accepting the Perak PAS MB. DAP, i reiterate, must get their representation in Kedah.
PLS MAKE AN OPPOSITION JOINT STATEMENT TONIGHT. Mainstream papers will be spinning this story and can lead to unnecessary unrest, mainstream still has greater reach to masses.
PLS APOLOGISE TO THE SULTAN as part of your remedy to this problem.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 42.17
Please attend the swearing in ceremony and work together as a team.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 44.21
shame !! shame !! at very begining , u shud not hv submitted the potential name !!! now u act the other way,,,, and not given respect to the decission maker >>.the Sultan… whatever decission been made by his majesty … is up to HIM … this is the game , no one shud complaint ,,, else , pls do not participate at first
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 44.22
Why is it everybody fails to see the back scene at the Perak and Selangor stage. Why can’t everyone sees that there are some force behind pulling the string. What I meant is that there is a possibility that the Sultans especially the Selangor Sultan have been instigated by the UMNOs. Now an even more headache scene is at the Selangor state. The Selangor sultan refused to have a non-malay as a deputy menteri besar. My view is that it is better that YB LIM accepts the Perak Sultan’s appointment. This is because there are only two choice for the non-malays in this country. Either we fight for the end of the discriminatory NEP policy and live with PAS as the Perak mentri besar or reject PAS as menti besar and live with the discriminatory NEP policy. For me , I will chose the first. This is bcos I believe PAS can later on have a more moderate stand after governing a mixed race state like Perak. Further more, PAS and PKR agrees to end the NEP and this itself will put pressure on UMNOs to end the discriminatory NEP or at least modify it. So pls , LKS do conisder my view and dont rock the boat of BARISAN RAKYAT.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 44.33
Dear LKS,
make another announcement now to say that the CEC have deliberated and respect the Sultan’s decision, then the MSM will have to retract everything they will have printed for tomorrow’s papers!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 44.51
Only a nincompoop (a stupid and foolish person) would say “Decide on one nominee and let the Regent decide” and “If the Regent declines to give his consent, then the names of other nominees should then be submitted.”
The Regent acts on advice and cannot but give his royal consent to the appointment. The person whose name is submitted will be the MB.
Submitting more than one name and then leaving it to the discretion of the Regent is without precedent in the constitutional history of any of the Malay states and not just the state of Perak.
Boycotting the swearing-in ceremony would be in contempt of the Royal throne of Perak. If this is any indication of things to come, no one can blame the people if they lose confidence in the ability of the coalition to govern.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 44.55
Do we really have to go thru’ all this. It’s obvious that the people voted not on race on religious lines. It is a shame the way things are unfolding…. the MB is just a post … the majority of the state EXCO will come from DAP right!!! Don’t quarrel over this as this could be your only chance to show Malaysians that there is really an alternative to the BN. Remember you just wanted to deny the BN their 2/3 majority !!! Anything more than this was really a bonus. Work together … find common ground and grow strong together.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 45.21
Since Sunday, 3 days ago, you knew through the papers and the internet, that your Perak branch had agreed with the other two parties to accept the Regent’s choice on the appointment of the new MB.
Yet you and your CEC remained QUIET. Now that the MB selected is not to your liking, you raise hell. What the F..k!!!
Do you fellows have any HONOUR? On the one hand you say you respect the Regent, praise him, now you INSULT him by not honouring your words.
Come on man, Mr Lim, accept it. But ask for the 2 Deputy MB’s posts. Give PKR the Speaker’s post or other high government position.
BUT don’t ever lose your dignity or respect by creating all this hulabaloo. We are watching you.
And don’t forget, you are a has-been now. Anwar has taken center-stage and has accepted all the accolades for the Opposition’s success. He will take over Parliament with his 31 MPs plus PAS’s 23 MPs. Next elections, he’s going to take over all your seats as well. Who is going to stop him?
Face the facts and realities. You are important no more. So concentrate on keeping what you still have.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 45.32
Why reject when earlier they say will accept any candidate endorsed by the Sultan? This is hippocratical. Please remove the opposition mentality that DAP has been carrying so long. You are now part of the state govt. Please act and behave like a responsible party. SERVE the people.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 45.49
Personally, I have no objection to have a PAS MB. But if we look at the bigger picture, DAP may lose support from the Chinese in the next GE if they were to accept this. On the other hand, a lot of Malays may be uncomfortable if DAP pushes on to be the MB, so DAP will lose support as well.
Not everyone is as open minded as people on the Internet who has exposure to the world and object race-based politics. Nevertheless, I’ve a strong feeling that most of the states will return to BN in the next GE. I’d rather build confidence in the people than to tussle over the MB position.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 46.13
Uncle Lim,I beg you please do not destroy what have been achieved so outstandingly recently by the three component parties.
Please respect His Royal Highness wise decision and judgement.My family and I have voted for the rocket during the recent election.
Please ,please……..I beg you again…. to reconsider your decision for Bangsa Malaysia sake!!!!!!!!!!!.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 46.21
After Uncle Kit has done so much for Malaysians, he should know what is best for all of us. I find it unfair to call him arrogant and some even hurling insults, threats to him and DAP. Do you think Abdullah and UMNO, MCA and Ong Ka Ting, Koh Tsu Kun and Gerakan will create a blog for you to give your input? Dream on! Please cherish the purpose of this blog.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 46.22
THERE IS NO NEED FOR SUCH A HUGE RESPONSE AND SO MUCH HUE AND CRY. DAP CANNOT BE SEEN AS SUPPORTIVE OF PAS, THIS NEED TO BE DONE AS A POLITICAL MOVE, NOTHING TO IT. PERAK STATE ASSEMBLY WILL STILL FUNCTION, DAP’S NGEH WILL LEAD DAP AND HIS TEAM OF ASSEMBLYMEN AND OTHER ASSEMBLYMEN FROM PKR AND PAS PERAK AS DAP HAS THE MOST SEATS.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 46.24
Come on Uncle Lim
Saya dan keluarga berkempen berhabis habisan untuk DAP menang. Tolonglah ketepikan ego atau ideologi tu. Tunjukkan BA boleh memerintah tak kira la DAP, PKR atau PAS.
Kalau macam ni 5 tahun lagi orang lama macam Uncle ni kami nak tunjukkan jalan keluar seperti Zam dan Samy.
Blogger semua please pressure them to listen to us (rakyat). Kekadang orang lama ni degil nak ikut idea dia aje.
Untuk rakyat semua please jangan boikot. BN ketawa besar nanti. Baru nak bersukahati BA ni nak sedih pulak.
Please
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 46.36
hello uncle lim kia su, what is wrong with u????
what r u trying to do? split the people up by race and start another May 13?
earlier press statement from DAP, we will accept whoever the sultan choose, which he did and now u r trying to wage a war with a highly respected Sultan ?
come on man, u still hold the majority in this newly form coalition goverment and u got nothing to lose. by gracefully accepting the decree from the sultan DAP will be showing that it is truly a MALAYSIAN for MALAYSIAN party without looking at the race or religion.
btw i am from Johor and my whole family voted for Dr. Boo Cheng Hau and Dr. Zaleha(PKR) because we trust the DAP-PKR-PAS to form a better goverment than BN
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 46.37
Well……i guess agreeing who and whom and which party the MB is suppose to come from is and will not be a big problem at all.Am sure the coalition will come to terms.After all if the Sultan or the Regent have chosen…am sure the choice made were best for all and most of all the entire state.
The big problem starts when BN lost badly…they will “REINVENT ITSELF” and i am very sure of that.You see…..every failure comes success.
Lets make a comparison between Opposition parties and BN.
Opposition fought like hell decade after decade as opposition and they have created a bench mark for themself.Their failures to capture any states (let us all exclude Kelantan to make the explaining easier) or even form any government since the beginning of time have made the opposition parties a “GOAL”.And unfortunately their goal is to deny 2/3 etc.And now GE12….they eventually achieved its goal and made even better achievement by capturing a few states.So the main aim and goal for the opposition have been achieved.And they will remain as it is in which it will comprise of the few parties namely DAP,PKR AND PAS.So….the three parties will remain the same if they do not increase its benchmark which is ultimately “COMBINING INTO A SINGLE PARTY”.
As for BN………..they were the government for almost all states as well as the entire nation.But 12GE cost them dearly.They divide and rule for so long and finally they lost badly.When that happens…don’t you guys think BN benchmark and their goals have change entirely? My opinion….BN will seriously or in the process of upgrading its benchmark and they the BN will eventually merge and form a single party system.
Look if this were to happen…..the only loser at the end will be the current opposition parties in the mid and long term.Like i said earlier…every failure will turn into a success and if the opposition can’t catch up with the BN sometime in the near future then the opposition future will spell doom if nothing are done to transform into a single party system.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 46.38
Dear bloggers…, we have been throwing all our words from deep heart…….Have all the message being convey ? Is there any of those who today becoming MP/ADUN/etc…..getting our message?
Have they forgotten what they are fighting for before 8-Mar?
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 47.01
What do you think you are doing?
People from all races vote for DAP not because DAP is great but because BN is rotten. BN can now glee happily and tell us ‘I TOLD YOU SO!’ You have now effectively allow BN to switch position with you by publicly announcing your tantrums. Remember, you are suppose to be fighting for us, put away your differences, suck up when required for the better of the people not your party.
Think it this way, the more you show yourself to be the magnanimous one, the more support you are going to get in the long run.
You are giving this yound adult here a heart attack!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 47.43
Why does it matter if a PAS representative become the CM? Is he not Malaysian? His blood colour is green? Is he a racist? I do not follow the political scene in Malaysia, or of anywhere in the world for that matter. I do not know who this PAS rep is, nor do I know about you Mr. Lim; I am not even a Perakian, hell I am not even in Malaysia.
But does it matter? Does it matter if it’s PAS, PKR or DAP being selected as the CM? After all we are all Malaysians. We want to change the racial segregation built up over such a long period of time, yet we’re making a fuss and being skeptical over such a minor thing? I care not if it’s a Chinese, Malay, Indian or rep of any other bloodlines to be my CM. As long as equality is practiced and my rights as a Malaysian are held up, that is all it takes. I am ashamed to have to use the term Chinese, Malay, Indian in this comment. For me in Malaysia those terms are all obsolete. If you’re a true Malaysia they are all obsolete. DAP, PAS or PKR they are all obsolete and irrelevant terms. Remember that you are ONE. I have the heart of a Chinese, complexity of an Indian and look of a Malay. What party and race does that make me? I regret to see that my BC registers me as Malay, because I am not. And so are you. So should you.
I dearly hope that this entry is just a knee-jerk reaction resulting from the exhaustive past several days, and is not written in your best state judgment and perception. Please – fly up high and look below on the ground. You will see that it is all one and there is no differences.
There is no reason to be worried about having to move to Penang; or having to be a second class citizen at all. At this crucial moment pessimism is the last thing on Earth that we need. This is the testbed to prove your ability to the eyes of the observers. This is your make or break for 2012 GE. Have a little faith, will ya
.
Best of wishes from New Zealand and congratulation on your dearest birthday present.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 47.48
Kit Siang, you are a making a mistake. For a start, please respect the Sultan’s decision. If there was never any intention to accept PAS as MB, then why nominate him in the first place. I am a Chinese, I voted DAP. Please dont mess things up. We have come too far for this. Your opposition coalition is not just about the Chinese, but also about our Malay and Indian friends, regardless of idealogy.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 48.15
I dont think its hard for BN to convince Sultan of Perak to make such a choice.
Opposition party 50-50 advantage will lost after all if there is a war.
It could be BN’s Trick.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 48.18
ha ha ha ha
lim kit siang…look at you
the key words today are power sharing….not power hungry
you guys mention that there is no representation for dap in kedah…how about pas in penang?
please work something out
the sultan is smart enough to test the fragile co-operation between pas-pkr-dap
don’t be so naive
talk to your son or ronny
you boycott the swearing in tomorrow we will boycott you in the 13th GE
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 48.34
To all Perak DAP Leaders,
Kindly attend the swearing-in ceremony.
As mentioned above, I am from Perak,
and I think this announcement really
shows no respect to Sultan Perak’s decision.
I don’t mind to have a Perak MB who is
from PAS.
Please don’t bring any political-power fighting
to the swearing-in ceremoney.
It is, again, the final decision by Sultan Perak.
Kindly RESPECT that.
Thank you.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 49.25
I know it be very painful for DAP to face the ppl in perak; but let’s really prove that DAP can work with PKR & PAS; forget about who get the CM post; think long term…. our future is in your hand…
Please DO NOT boycott the ceremony!!!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 50.04
Uncle Lim,
I strongly believe that Sultan of Perak and the Regent have picked the best option from all possibilities. Both members of the royal family are quite open-minded and fair in most of issues. The fact that DAP and Indian community will get the deputy MB posts shows all is not lost. This is actually a history. DAP will get most of exco members and should take the important portfolio like finance and education. Believe me, if DAP and other partners can really show the success of coalition in Penang and Perak’s models for the next 4-5 years with most of promises fulfilled, the future is bright for DAP and I even predict DAP and the alternative coalition to grab Negeri Sembilan, Perlis, Terangganu, Melaka, and possibly Johor, and rule the Federal Government. Why not!
Pls show the very good side of DAP – cooperative, compromise and respect, and ask your DAP Perak Assemblyman to attend the swearing in ceremony. Think about the FUTURE! Don’t give any chance to BN to whack DAP.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 50.12
Well, who knows the heart of the people? Who knows the mind of the king? As the decision is made by the royal, it should be answerable as far as DAP is concerned. We should take the decision and move forward. DAP need to understand that working together is the true spirit of Malaysia’s Malaysian. Otherwise, we are not proving to the people that we are mature enough to handle the leadership problem. DAP should attend the ceremony, or else people of Perak will be disappointed and BN will be laughing at the back.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 50.24
Yes, Kit may need to do this to appease the fanatics..but at what cost? Is the DAP now a party beholden to Christian fundamentalists and Chinese chauvinists?
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 50.24
LKS Dai Lou, please accept larr. You are our IDOL. You guy and pkr and pas isnt it same side? Try pas ppl please, they can be faithful. Compare to ppl in BN which practice discrimination, PAS is always better!!!
And you have to respect Sultan decision sometime.
Show that you can respect islam by accepting him. So that he can prove to other chinese that he can respect other religion!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 52.06
Please check in malaysia today, there are many voices…there as well….thx
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/4246/84/
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 52.17
Dear LKS, now ure sounded more like KJ & to make things worst, ure offending the faith given to BR & sultan’s decision.
Fr all the reader’s views tat support u, I got a feeling tat tis coalition is somehow fragile & insincere…the hell to whoever b the MB as far as he is in BR.
U’ll lost my vote fr now.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 52.42
I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD CALM DOWN AND KEEP YOUR THOUGHTS TO YOURSELF FOR ONE DAY. PLEASE! LET KIT AND HIS GANG SORT THIS OUT. WE HAVE GONE TO FAR TO MESS THIS UP NOW. PLEASE NO MORE POST AFTER THIS. THIS WOULD ONLY PLAY TO THE EARS OF BN WHO WILL BE THINKING OF HOW TO SPIN THIS TO THE MOON. PLEASE, FOR ONE DAY, WE JUST KEEP QUIET. LET KIT AND GANG HANDLE THIS. TOLONG LA.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 53.16
Don’t feel threatened by PAS. They know thier position exactly. See:
http://videos.thestar.com.my/default.aspx?vid=1090
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 53.39
Look at this statement – “the DAP is prepared to accept DAP chairman and Assemblyman for Sitiawan Ngeh Koo Ham or PKR Behrang Assemblyman Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi as Perak Mentri Besar”. Ok PKR Behrang Assemblyman Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi is a Malaysian malay so DAP’s rejection of PAS Assemblyman Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin (also a Malaysian Malay) as Perak Mentri Besar is not because of race factor or the fact that PKR having womn less state seats than DAP. If not because of race factor or PAS’s securing less seat than DAP, when reject PAS Assemblyman Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as MB? There is by process of elimination only one justification – he is PAS’s man whose theocratic ideology of an Islamic state backed by hudud is real and incompatioble with DAP’s secular ideology and its supporters’ support of the secular constitution and pluralistic and diverse Bangsa Malaysia.
This is all understandable except why before elections did the DAP persuade your supporters to vote for PAS (in straight BN vs PAS fight); why give the impression to all that PAS had changed for the softer and the better and that’s why you were indirectly collaborating with it through PKR by an informal electoral pact of no 3 cornered contest to thrash BN and after thrashing BN, to now assert PAS’s Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin is (unlike PKR’s Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi) not acceptable as Perak’s MB (impliedly because PAS’s ideology is diametrically opposed to DAP’s) when, if this were so, this was hardly mentioned much les acknowledged before the elections just to defeat the common enemy BN ?
This smells of political duplicity involved here where principles are cast aside for expedience but more than all that is a certain unwise insensitivity to Malaysian Malays’ feelings and sentiments at this juncture (as I have said in my earlier posting) that will make them regret supporting the Opposition’s cause against the BN that will deal the lethal blow to the whole movement towards bringing Malaysian electorate’s tentative steps towards another higher level of political maturity of rejecting BN’s brand of politics!
The impression we get is that the crumbs of patronage, power and position (MB) are as important to Opposition parties as BN that had been acused similarly of, which will of course help BN to make a come back against its recent electoral set back in the next election.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 53.43
Remove that obnoxious racialist clause from the Perak Constitution!
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 54.34
It takes time to change. What happen on Mar 8 is the first step towards the change in Malaysia. DAP should be thankful that the rakyat has given them the mandate.
Please be open minded. Please don’t throw away what the people has given you. Work together and serve the people. DAP still get the Deputy MB post. A PAS MB will not be able to do much and it needs the support of the other coalition members ad DAP has 18. It will not be a problem.
Please go and attend the ceremony. BN is already laughing at us. Don’t make it any worse.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 54.35
tolong baca komen2 d m’sia today.. http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/4246/84/ kami duka cita dgn kenyataan dan tindakan saudara lim kit siang… d saat lim guan eng mengapuskan deb d p.pinang kami masih menyakin kan dan mempertahankan kwn2 melayu kami yg tindakan lim guan eng itu akan menjadikan melayu besaing dan p.pinang akan bebas dr kurupsi… wktu ada deb d bwh gerakan(BN) pn melayu bukan nya maju d p.pinang so napa tidak guna pendekatan baru menghapuskannya agar kita menjadi lbh telus..
tapi dgn kenyataan lim kit siang ini saya sendiri benar2 kecewa… patutnya kita fokuskan agenda menjadikan negeri2 kita ini terbaik dgn kerjasama PKR ,DAP dan PAS.. jdkan sebagai cnth kpd negeri2 BN lain.. ITU KEHENDAK RAKYAT. ITU TUJUAN RAKYAT PILIH KAMU (DAP,PAS, PKR).. bukannya kami suruh kamu berebut jwtn menteri besar..!!!!
percayalah bahawasanya musuh kita BN akan mengambil kesempatan berkaitan hal ini… dan parti UMNO yg d kenali parti penjahat melayu akn mempergunakan isu ini bg mempecah belahkan kita.. saudara lim.. plz la.. kalau pn ada masalh kamu selesaikan d antara pakatan kita (DAP, PAS, PKR) baik2. tak perlu nk umumkan mcm tu.. buat rugi kita ja…
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 56.14
Kit Siang, you are making a BIG mistake. Please respect our beloved Sultan’s decision. I am a Chinese, and I voted for DAP. So do most of my friends. So, please dont mess things up. The opoosition is not just about the Chinese, but also about the Indian, Malays and other races regardless of ideology. What is wrong with a PAS MB?
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 56.36
“And don’t forget, you are a has-been now. Anwar has taken center-stage and has accepted all the accolades for the Opposition’s success. He will take over Parliament with his 31 MPs plus PAS’s 23 MPs. Next elections, he’s going to take over all your seats as well. Who is going to stop him?” Sheriff Singh
Nobody is to blame but ourselves. Today, Uncle Kit stand up for a noble principle for all Malaysians, many here rejected his stand, call him names, insulted him! Who is going to help us when Uncle Kit is gone?
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 57.26
YB Kit,
At this point of time, we have to look beyond DAP.
Many voters have accepted PAS and there is no more fear. Our main target is racist umno.
We have 18 great warriors to ensure fair play for all.
As I commentted on my other post, I know nuts about politics but you know much better, as the situation arise such as this I hope that your decision either way will benefit the Rakyat.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 58.09
Boycotting the Swearing-In ceremony which is before the Regent?? Clearly a case of contempt. I would like to see DAP go through with their threat because history is being made! It is one thing to be able to walk on water but this is clearly a case of the DAP treading on unchartered waters.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 58.12
I really hate the idea of DAP working with PAS as I don’t trust PAS. The last time DAP works with PAS, I decided not to support DAP. However, I think Uncle Kit shouldn’t boycott tomorrow’s swearing-in ceremony. Uncle Kit should not worry. We will not blame you, if the PAS MB decided to implement strange laws later like the ones introduced in Kelantan.
I really hate the politics of this country. It is hopeless. If it is not about race, it will be about religion. The worst part is it is about race and religion.
Personally, I think the MB post should go to PKR since the state law does not allow a non-Malay/non-Muslim to be the MB. Too bad the PKR guys do not have good academic qualification.
DAP had decided to work with PAS (an idea which I think is not going to work) so, you guys have to learn to work with each other now. Since we cannot accept Islamic sharia, we should agree on principles i.e. whether you are a Muslim or non-Muslim, I am sure we both want a fair and just society. Try to work on these principles that we could agree on. It is too late for DAP to back out of this coalition. Please don’t disappoint us or else we will have no choice but to vote for MCA or Gerakan and be the slaves of UMNO again. Please don’t do this to us.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 58.58
Uncle Kit I don’t understand why you are doing this maybe to get some feedback from us. Look the maths is simple for the opposition to work as a viable alternative to BN you must cooperate with each other. Malaysia is a multi racial and religious country. I am from Sarawak but I hate to see the Barisan Rakyat break apart because of this and the wind of change to die. You must attend the swearing in ceremony. Sultan Azlan Shah is a respected figurehead and to snub the ceremony is to insult the Sultan. If DAP had won 30 seats you can demand who to be the MB. You don’t. Think of the bigger picture maybe you can get some concessions from PAS in Kedah and more posts in Perak. BN has been successful for the last 50 years because of this formula of consensus. Sometimes we have to move back one step to move forward two steps. You live in Perak-a Malay majority state. If the Malays did not vote against BN they will be the majority. Politics is a game a very serious one think of crossovers. BN only needs two. PKR already agree why do you have to do this? Let PAS be the MB and you still have the numbers to stop any “hudud” laws. That is where you draw the line. Personally I think the PKR candidate would been a better choice. Uncle Kit, the whole process of selecting a MB has been bungled but you cannot go back without insulting the Sultan. Anyway you call the shots sir make it the right one. I hope my two cents opinion can make you do the best thing for democracy and good governance. Thank you.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 59.01
I totally agree with ZhouYu’s words of wisdom. We should pray for Kit Siang for great tolerance toward PAS, even though there was a unhappy incidence in the past election. Even if you want to boycott, please give your valid reasons beyond the number of seats and religious issues.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 59.31
agree with my buddy alancheah above. i’m from perak also! yb ngeh koo ham already said in the paper that all parties will honour whoever chosen to be the menteri besar.
if we do not agree with pas candidate, this should have been voiced earlier not after the royal announcement. everyone in malaysia knows that the perak royal family is the best, well educated and humble royal family. but everyone has temper. this decision to boycott the swearing in might anger the sultan. because already said earlier will support whoever is chosen. it’s like dap going back on its words.
please uncle kit, give the pas mb a chance. i believe the younger generation of pas candidates are moderate and they accept malaysia is multi racial….
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 59.36
I suspect DAP Perak broke ranks with DAP CEC and unilaterally issued a statement to the press stating it would accept any candidate from the list, inclusive of a PAS candidate.
Not sure what is going to happen now. DAP is in a very difficult position.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 59.45
I am a God-fearing malay muslim who prays 5 times a day. I am a PAS supporter but (and?) I voted for DAP parliamentary candidate in my area – the candidate won.
I am sure many other malay muslims did the same – showing our support behind BR regardless whether it was DAP, PKR or PAS because we believed in the coalition and what it could potentially achieve.
We overcame our reservations about DAP and told ourselves that DAP fights for justice and fairplay, which are central Islamic values and in any case PAS and DAP have looked past their differences and are working together with PKR on their shared struggle.
Now comes this news.
To me, this only confirms my fears that DAP doesn’t really care very much about malays, muslims or the sovereignity of the Sultans.
It’s also stupid and just drags everyone else in the BR coalition down. You’re just committing suicide.
Please, don’t make me regret my vote. Retract the statement please.
Remember, we voted you in and we can vote you out.
March 12th, 2008 at 22: 59.58
YB Lim, you have every right to be angry and disappointed but for the sake of Bangsa Malaysia please come to your senses, and attend the ceremony tomorrow.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 00.45
I believe all of our comments will be read
by someone in DAP. Whoever reads this,
kindly convey to all Perak’s DAP leaders
- Attend the swearing-in ceremony.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 01.01
i hope that dap won’t boycott pas menteri besar….
pls attend the ceremony….
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 01.54
I know it be very painful for Uncle Kit to made this decision, he basically affair that DAP may lose support from the Chinese in the next GE if they were to accept this.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 02.05
someone said : // quote //
Do you think Abdullah and UMNO, MCA and Ong Ka Ting, Koh Tsu Kun and Gerakan will create a blog for you to give your input? Dream on! Please cherish the purpose of this blog
//unquote//
this blog has help and assist DAP to secure more support i guess …. if we can’t even express over view and opinion… then , that’s it >> i’m done and logging out !!!
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 02.26
Tomorrow’s newspaper headline ” I TOLD YOU SO”. BN will be saying that they have warned the chinese that voting for DAP is voting for PAS. Strategically, Uncle Lim move to declare a boycott may not be wise move although it echoes and to cool the chinese down .However the Sultan have seen this in advance. Tuanku is wise knowing that if Nizar was nominated by DAP & PKR, the chinese citizen in Perak will be very unhappy & think that DAP have betrayed their trust. Hence tuanku take charge to have the nominee submitted to him. Is his call to nominate Nizar and all the citizen must accept it. What DAP need to do is to explain this to the grassroot and voters that Sultan made the call. Nizar must also be sensitive in implementing any rules that will cause any discomfort to the people. Barisan Rakyat must remember they are ruling because they vowed to exercise a transparent, fair and corruption free government. Once this is done, everyone won’t see the colour on the surface anymore.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 03.11
yup… i”m sure if they try something stupid like implementing hudud law… we hv more than enough representative to counter that! just look at terengganu… they won once…but failed to retain it…then you know why already…
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 05.35
Uncle Kit,
Your respond to the MB appointment don’t sound like you although it look like you. Perhaps this just another political manoeuver just to satisfy some voters from Perak and I strongly hope so. I’m a Chinese, from Ipoh and my family and I voted DAP every GE and I can accept a PAS’s MB as long as he can take good care of Perak. We are to denial the 2/3 majority in Perak and it’s consider a bonus to kick out BN from Perak. You never promise to give Perak a non PAS MB during the campaign and why should you worry how to answer your constituent. I’m rather sad to read such a strong respond from you, I always respect you as an elder statesman with wisdom. Please don’t throw in the spanner now. It’s better to retreat one step and gain two step.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 06.55
uncle lim, i support your stance. it is fact that PAS is religious based party – its name already spells out and their main goal no doubt is to convert malaysia to islamic country. I support DAP because of its ideology championing every citizen regardless race in malaysia, upholding constitution as put front by our forefathers that malaysia is secular state. for CEC to attend the ceremony means DAP endorse what PAS stands for. As part of Perak exco/DUN, and because of Sultan decision, perhaps Perak DAP should attend , but not the CEC.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 07.06
Uncle Lim, You are the worst ever decision maker I came across.
If our effort of building Malaysian Malaysia fail, you are the solely one to blame! Get on actions now and attend the swearing in ceremony tomorrow! Let slap BN face once and again! Else we will slap yours. Pls wake up!
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 09.02
I now see that BN will win back Perak
and probably some other states from
DAP, PKR and PAS.
Please… respect Sultan Perak’s decision.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 10.22
So early in the game DAP has made 2 flip-flops.The first one made by Guan Eng who said in the press that he is going to do away with the deputy CM post but when it came to announcing his exco line-up Holy Moses we have 2 deputy CMs, one more than Tsu Koon’s line-up.Now this.You have asked the Sultan to choose from a list of 3 names and that DAP will abide by his decision.Isn’t it crystal clear that your integrity is at stake if you renege on your pledge!
DAP must have been fully aware that the Perak State Constitution does not admit a non Malay as her MB unless the Sultan under special circumstances make a waiver.Under today’s circumstance there is no way the Sultan will waive the rule (total Malay assemblymen in Perak=41 whilst we have only 18 DAP assemblymen).So why was this issue not thoroughly deliberated? Has it occur to DAP to submit 2 names, one from PKR and one from DAP so that whatever outcome would have a more acceptable outcome to your supporters?
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 11.24
Uncle Kit I don’t understand why you are doing this maybe to get some feedback from us. Look the maths is simple for the opposition to work as a viable alternative to BN you must cooperate with each other. Malaysia is a multi racial and religious country. I am from Sarawak but I hate to see the Barisan Rakyat break apart because of this and the wind of change to die. You must attend the swearing in ceremony. Sultan Azlan Shah is a respected figurehead and to snub the ceremony is to insult the Sultan. If DAP had won 30 seats you can demand who to be the MB. You don’t. Think of the bigger picture maybe you can get some concessions from PAS in Kedah and more posts in Perak. BN has been successful for the last 50 years because of this formula of consensus. Sometimes we have to move back one step to move forward two steps. You live in Perak-a Malay majority state. If the Malays did not vote against BN they will be the majority. Politics is a game a very serious one think of crossovers. BN only needs two. PKR already agree why do you have to do this? Let PAS be the MB and you still have the numbers to stop any “hudud” laws. That is where you draw the line. Personally I think the PKR candidate would been a better choice. Uncle Kit, the whole process of selecting a MB has been bungled but you cannot go back without insulting the Sultan. What about a rotation system as practiced in Sabah? Anyway you call the shots sir make it the right one. I hope my two cents opinion can make you do the best thing for democracy and good governance. Thank you.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 11.26
Correct me if I have read the 12th GE wrong. It was not a case of a victory of DAP over BN, not PKR over, not PAS over.
It was not even a case of victory of the combined loose coalition of DAP,PKR & PAS that beat BN.
It was a simple case of the PEOPLE that has beaten BN. ( Remember Malaysia belongs to its people?)
Quite frankly, if you have put up a dog (I mean a real dog) against BN, I would have voted for that K9 instead of BN or their chinese or Indian “running dog”.
So, just take the people’s winning & cooperate in an amicable way & start serving the people. This is only a state. Come in the short future, you will have the federal government.
One has to admit the way the Sultan has gone is a bit funny. We must not be too hard on Uncle Lim. He has gone through unimginable amount of continuous stress & over stress over the last 2 months. Let him rest well & have & chance to clear his mind. Lets pray for him.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 11.56
This is sad.
When we finally deny BN their 2/3 majority and win over these 5 states, now it seems we are fighting for titles and position.
To me, it is a good move to give the Perak MB post to PAS. DAP will be able to win more malay support this way. And after all, DAP is holding the Pg CM post.
It is sad to see us fighting amongst ourselves.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 12.20
Dear Uncle Kit,
I am not sure how much convincing you need but I have written more on this to let you know we are tired of this kind of charade. Please walk the talk. We want change not jockeying for power…
http://myop101.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-uncle-kit-why-dap-why.html
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 13.00
Please…. DAP leaders… attend the swearing-in ceremoney.
Respect the final decision made by Sultan Perak.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 14.17
Dear Uncle Kit,
I and my bunch of Chinese friends have no issue with PAS being the Menteri Besar of Perak. Since the exco will be primarily in a bigger amount DAP members, it should be ok. The excos can stop him anytime if strange laws were to be made.
Besides, Husam Musa had said they will consult people of other religions and races before making any implementation of law. Since he has agreed to tolerate, I think DAP should tolerate with that as well since the chinese in this page and those that I know is ok.
Give it a chance. If all these boycotting and stuff keep on going round and round with DAP and PAS not agreeing on simple things like this, then rest assured the fate of the Malaysians will be doomed.
If Perak can accept UMNO MB for so many decades, with all the keris wielding thing at the federal, why can’t we accept PAS who did not do all that crap?
I think people need to be sensible to change things step by step. DAP may think it is not very fair but things need to happen little by little.
Please please please do not jeopardize the coalition Uncle Kit. The greater cause is more important … Uncle Kit I plead to you to get everyone to go to the swearing-in ceremony. Please give your support as a representative of the people.
Uncle Kit, please please please… greater cause … for everyone…
Regards,
http://sagaladoola.blogspot.com
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 14.40
Dear YB,
Everybody agree it is very unfair but we have to accept the fact that this is the decision of the state Royalty. Any protest would not make things better; on the other hand it may even be used against the newly born coalition. Please bear in mind that the opp only won by a razor thin majority and there are lots of jealous eyes watching, waiting for every opportunity to kill. Didn’t you see those spin masters have already headlined the issue today. This is the first time we encounter such situation, I am sure it can be sorted out within the coalition. I just do not wish to see our hard work gone to waste. Such opportunity may not come in every GE.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 15.41
The people had voted the opposition.Not LKS alone.Dont speak on behalf of all the DAP’s state assemblymen.All 18 of them should talk sense into LKS.Wake up from your victory.LGE is already the CM of Penang.This is a real BLUNDER !ATTEND the swearing-in ceremony at all cost or else DAP is doomed.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 16.26
It is mentioned in http://www.malaysiakini.com.my/news/79710 that “Under the state constitution, the menteri besar has to be a Malay Muslim, but there is a provision that allows the sultan to waive the requirement.” Why can’t the sultan simply just waive the requirement of a muslim MB and allow a non-muslim? Dear sultan, can you just open your mouth and say “I’m ok with a non-Malay”. Is it so difficult? I’m sure a DAP MB can do an equally good job, or maybe better than a Malay MP. Why make such a fuss? Come on, this is Malaysia and we are always promoting Malaysia as a MULTI-RACIAL country. Why does it always have to be Malays and Muslims? Will Malaysia loose its identity if a non-muslim is elected MB? Will Malays be a lesser Malay if a non-Malay is sworn in as MB? Malaysia is a democratic country and we’ve seen true democracy being expressed in this year’s election and those words came out of our dear PM’s mouth after BN lost 2/3. If a non-Malay is being sworn in, it is a sign to the world showing that race is no more a biggy in Malaysia and we can truly live in racial harmony. It is a sign to the world that we don’t really care what racial background our MB is from just as long as the interest of the nation is taken care of, and that he rules the state well. Why not show the world that, rather than showing that Malaysia is a Muslims-are-supreme regime? Haven’t we had enough of racial tension already? Isn’t that what our nation is chanting for in this year’s election where BN lost? Aren’t we chanting for a cleaner government and equality? I take it that BN lost because the nation is expressing dissatisfaction with how the country is run, and a lost of confidence toward the current ruling party? If we are to keep giving in to nonsense, why did many of you out there vote for the opposition parties? When will enough be enough? When will the minority races not be taken advantage of and push to the limits? When will this stop?
I know we must respect our sultan’s decision. But respect must be earned, not taken for granted. If really a Malay must be the MB, why not from PKR? Why must he be from PAS? If the sultan can make a decision without the DAP CEC’s consent, then he might as well give the ruling authority back to BN? If the sultan can simply appoint anybody he wishes without following the normal procedure, which is appointing the MB from the party having the majority seats in the state, why even hold an election? Just leave everything to the sultan. The sultan can then pick whoever he fancies. What if the sultan asks for everyone’s head be served on a silver platter? Will we give in? I know that is speaking on the extreme but that is what we are doing if uncle Lim were to give in. If we still can’t go race-free on the MB issue on the state level, how then can we even eliminate the MEP on the national level? Our king can easily rule out on any proposal to eliminate MEP! We need to re-write our country’s constitution!!! We are Malaysians, not only Malays. I urge the rulers of this country to be sensitive to racial issues. We the other minority races have been very tolerant all these while. Why can’t our rulers be tolerant for once? Malaysia is for Malaysians, not just Malays. I hope the new government will make Malaysia a land where it is truly, truly a multi-racial country. A nation that tolerates and respects the other races. I hope the PM will live up to his words of being a PM for Malaysia, not just a certain race. We can live in harmony without all the racial propaganda. Make Malaysia a race-free government for all!
Mr Sultan, it’s your call. You can change everything with just a “Yes” from your mouth even though a decision has been made. U can remake another decision, it’s no harm. After all, you are supreme over all laws?
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 17.16
Dear Sir,
Please reconsider your move.
Your state chief agreed in the first place to accept whoever chosen by the Perak Sultan, but after the Sultan’s announcement you are going to boycott. That is not gentlemen and will only give chance to BN (Barisan Najis) gains political capital.
Please reconsider your move.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 17.19
Whoever be MB/CM/ excos for 5 states….. you are representing Rakyat…you no longer tie to any party…u are the new government who need to develop the states for the people in 5 states who are all malaysian……..
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 18.16
Uncle Lim,
Please compromise. DAP-PKR-PAS should work hand-in-hand now. The whole world will laugh at these 3 parties. How can these parties work together?
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 18.29
i follows husam musa blog, and he is one of the pas leaders that makes me change my perspective of pas. just give them a chance uncle kit. don’t jeopardise guan eng’s future as chief minister for many many terms to come!!
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 19.15
gofortruth, I agree with you. I’ve always voted for opposition just because I disagree with the way BN is running the country. I really would and will vote for a dog if it stood against the BN!
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 20.30
No doubt it is a strange decision by the Sultan. But Kit, you have had high regard for the wisdom of the Sultan in your earlier blogs. Maybe the wise Sultan sees a longer term picture such as:
1. The PAS candidate may be the least able to be bought over by BN. If the Mentri Besar switches camp it will be disastrous especially if a PKR MB would have crossed over.
2. PAS is the smallest no. in BR. Even if they cross over the coalition is still able to function. This way the coalition will be more stable.
3. The PAS candidate may be the least corruptible. Look at Selangor example, because of the MB Toyo the whole state was rejected by the rakyat. Maybe the wise Sultan don’t want the coalition to lose in the GE because of a corrupt MB.
There could be a host of reasons but you jumped the gun without first asking the reason why. Maybe you should seek an audience with the Sultan and ask the reason before you make any decision which may come back to haunt you later on.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 21.11
No doubt it is a strange decision by the Sultan. But Kit, you have had high regard for the wisdom of the Sultan in your earlier blogs. Maybe the wise Sultan sees a longer term picture such as:
1. The PAS candidate may be the least able to be bought over by BN. If the Mentri Besar switches camp it will be disastrous especially if a PKR MB would have crossed over.
2. PAS is the smallest no. in BR. Even if they cross over the coalition is still able to function. This way the coalition will be more stable.
3. The PAS candidate may be the least corruptible. Look at Selangor example, because of the MB Toyo the whole state was rejected by the rakyat. Maybe the wise Sultan don’t want the coalition to lose in the next GE because of a corrupt MB.
There could be a host of reasons but you jumped the gun without first asking the reason why. Maybe you should seek an audience with the Sultan and ask the reason before you make any decision which may come back to haunt you later on.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 22.48
Uncle Lim
Correct me if I have read the 12th GE wrongly. It was not a case of a victory of DAP over BN, not PKR over BN, not PAS over BN.
It was not even a case of victory of the combined loose coalition of DAP,PKR & PAS that beat BN.
It was a simple case of the PEOPLE that has beaten BN. ( Remember Malaysia belongs to its people?)
Quite frankly, if you have put up a dog (I mean a real dog) against BN, I would have voted for that K9 instead of BN or their chinese or Indian “running dogs”.
So, just take the people’s winning & cooperate in an amicable way & start serving the people. This is only a state. Come in the short future, you will have the federal government.
One has to admit the way the Sultan has gone is a bit funny. We must not be too hard on Uncle Lim. He has gone through unimginable amount of continuous stress & over stress over the last 2 months. Let him rest well & have & chance to clear his mind. Lets pray for him.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 24.10
For once I thought we can form a formidable coalition against the impossible the BN monster. And when i heard the statement by YB Nizar that all the decision will be by consensus of three parties i felt that he is the right man. But then when LKS made astupid statement like this, that is LKS is truely ultra fanatic with his own idea. I don’t think we need somebody like you. you should offer your retirement together with Dr M, Samy, chong Eu.
You are way past your time.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 24.29
Please put the people before your party, or the people will do it for you.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 24.44
There are just too much comment which could be similar.
I suggest… we all should just feedback to YB Lim whether to ATTEND or support his BOYCOTT of swearing-in ceremony….
Let see if he listen to the people…
I go first…
ATTEND.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 25.11
It is a sad day for uncle Kit and it is a sad day for democracy in Malaysia.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 25.23
Dear Uncle Lim, the people of Malaysia has decided. BN is not delivering and that is why the BA (Barisan Alternatif) is given the chance. SO PLEASE, DON’T FLUSH IT DOWN THE TOILET!
A decision has been made by the Sultan, and we should respect that. Boycotting will only make things worse for the BA especially for the DAP. The Chinese and Indians will be disappointed by your childish act, the Malays will be offended. You are giving the impression to the people that you are insulting the Sultan. How bad can that be? In less than a week after election, we already start to see that our effort for CHANGE is failing.
There is a positive change in Malaysian politics whereby the people finally unite their voice in this 12th GE. It’s no longer a racial thing but rather, the MALAYSIAN voice. You may have your reasons against the election of the PAS assemblyman as MB but please, work that out among yourselves (DAP-PKR-PAS). Don’t give people the wrong impression. It’s not easy to win the people’s trust but it only takes a statement to ruin all the hard work and effort you have put in so far and you may not get a second chance anymore. This is considered the most valuable and interesting election that I can see. The people are actually hoping to see changes for the next five years and not regretting/wasting their votes only a week after the election.
DAP-PKR-PAS must prove to the people that you are better than BN and most importantly, your actions fit your words. This boycotting is not what the people of Malaysia, especially Perakians, cast their vote for.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 25.48
I would like to stress that after 50 yrs rascist politic still existed, in moving toward Democracy whichever party win the most should be able to appoint it’s own Menteri Besar, now the Ruler of Perak rejected it, it shows, Democracy are still not widely accepted by Royal Family. Parti Keadilan have better result than PAS why not choose a Malay from Keadilan (are u saying PKR are unislamic) ?The Rakyat of Perak who majority choose DAP or Keadilan still unable to break the Dilemma of the Royal Family. I sincerely thinks that as a modern Royal, there should support the Rakyat, a single race for everyone that’s Malaysian.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 26.10
1)even koh already lost heavily….koh tsu koon attend the ceremony of lim guan eng be the cm…
2)now u dap have the most exco in the coalition,so why do u boycott?
furthermore,the menteri besar from pas in my mind is more experienced then that from dap. pls don’t views one person from its religion and race.
3)even the ngeh from dap is not menteri besar,he is still deputy…
4)dap,pkr and pas already pass the choice to sultan to choose.
5)u guys promise to accept the choice from sultan
6) no one from malaysia call u to boycott
so,pls attend the ceremony
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 27.34
I have no problem accepting any leadership so long as he/she is a true malaysian and can lead a fair and transparent government.
I will reserve my judgement till GE13. No point regretting over an action we had made. Who are we to judge?
A good leader will handle any situation given in a graceful manner but he/she is still human who cannot run away from being emotional. I believe that – If God takes you there, He will take you thru’
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 27.46
There are so many of us rooting for you guys in the CEC and various the DAP reps to attend. I believe you are above all of this and I believe that you are a far-sighted, honourable and selfless person. I will pray for you.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 28.12
3 days enjoyment had just turned sour. Ur statement is contradicting w whatever YB Ngeh’s & BR coalition party’s. Why is it happening now & is tat something wrong w u or DAP/PKR/PAS now?? This first assignment in installing MB already created much noise, r u REALLY sure to run the state’s??? if not, better leave it back to BN…
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 28.20
Good point 9to5. Exactly what I posted earlier. There’s something amiss in the picture. Why the Sultan suddenly step in when BR won and never when BN won.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 28.25
We are all the subjects of the King. Before the King, all our ideologies must be put aside. The wisdom of the royalty must not be questioned for He decides what is best for all. I think this wisdom is not be present in many of our political leaders who sometimes say things without really thinking of the consequences and they caught.
Since the menteri besar is chosen by the Sultan, the mb must work for all and administer the state in the best way possible.
This elections has seen changes which we have never seen before, so with them come new challenges.Lets be open and put aside our previous fears and suspicions and overcome these challenges as matured Malaysians.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 29.12
Your respond to the MB appointment don’t sound like you although it look like you. Perhaps this just another political manoeuver just to satisfy some voters from Perak and I strongly hope so. I’m a Chinese, from Ipoh and my family and I voted DAP every GE and I can accept a PAS’s MB as long as he can take good care of Perak. We are to denial the 2/3 majority in Perak and it’s consider a bonus to kick BN out of Perak. You never promise to give Perak a non PAS MB during the campaign and why should you worry how to answer to your constituent. After all this is the Sultan Perak selection and you can diplomatically put it that way. I’m rather sad to read such a strong respond from you, I always respect you as an elder statesman with wisdom. Please don’t throw in the spanner now. It’s better to retreat one step and gain two step.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 31.40
Mr Kit,
I voted DAP not because DAP is great. in fact it’s really just so-so.
I voted DAP because BN is too arrogant.
I would have voted a dog, yes a dog that knows crap about judicial crisis, economy growth, democratic system, and even a dog who doesn’t know how to use a video camera.
But did i vote for a party that is so arrogant as to go against the sultan?
Mr Kit,
Don’t be arrogant.
Come GE13, if your arrogance persist, you can kiss my ONE vote goodbye.
Yes, it’s only ONE vote, but it’s still a vote.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 32.03
Kit Siang, I was borned in Ipoh, raised in Ipoh, I am a chinese, I have been a DAP supporter but I do not agree with what you have said.
Look at all these faithful comments. They are coming from the heart and soul of Malaysians and DAP supporters. Please correct the situation as soon as possible.
Be Lim Kit Siang for MALAYSIA, not Lim Kit Siang for DAP or Lim Kit Siang for Chinese (only).
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 33.05
A lot of my madfish erman’s friends have supported DAP. Don’t make DAP the butt of the joke of the 12th GE. You have 18 warriors is the state assembly to keep tabs on the MB. Go and attend the ceremony and make us proud of DAP. Show BN what DAP is made of. DAP is here to serve the people.
Win over the general population by showing that DAP is NOT an ARROGANT party. Remember that the Barisan Rakyat won the 12th GE because of the ARROGANCE of the BN and in particular the Umno-putras.
Please attend the ceremony and have closure with the other oppositon party. Tomorrow is a new start for the new state government. Show the people that the mandate given was a right one.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 33.13
i’m a young professional malay 1st time voter, who start to trust barisan rakyat, who believe DAP-PAS-PKR can work together for our nation, who reject arrogance BN, who 1st time register to internet blog tonite:-
really hope Uncle Lim can do the right thing for future of Malaysia….
attend the ceremony tomorrow….please uncle..please..please..
show to all Malaysian that DAP-PAS-PKR can lead Malaysia in the future…show that in PERAK!!
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 34.03
To all my Christian, Muslim, Buddhist and Hindu brothers and sisters. Please pray for Uncle Lim and that he receives God’s grace and wisdom. Just imagine the pressure that he is under right now. I am confident with divine intervention he will see the light.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 34.26
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March 12th, 2008 at 23: 35.03
The DAP promised CHANGE, I voted for CHANGE… yet the same OLD politics is being played out in Perak. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE withdraw your statement on the Perak MB. We made a lot of progress on 8 March and we should not be regressing into racial politics. I am a 30-something Malaysian Chinese who thought he was voting for a new non-racial Malaysia. If DAP betrays the rakyat like this, you are no better than BN!
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 35.15
No doubt it is a strange decision by the Sultan. But Kit, you have had high regard for the wisdom of the Sultan in your earlier blogs. Maybe the wise Sultan sees a longer term picture such as:
1. The PAS candidate may be the least able to be bought over by BN. If the Mentri Besar switches camp it will be disastrous especially if a PKR MB would have crossed over.
2. PAS is the smallest no. in BR. Even if they cross over or pull out, the coalition is still able to function. This way the coalition will be more stable.
3. The PAS candidate may be the least corruptible. Look at Selangor example, because of the MB Toyo the whole state was rejected by the rakyat. Maybe the wise Sultan don’t want the coalition to lose in the next GE because of a corrupt MB.
There could be a host of reasons but you jumped the gun without first asking the reason why. Maybe you should seek an audience with the Sultan and ask the reason before you make any decision which may come back to haunt you later on.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 36.13
chinese + indians over 55% population in perak
only 300++ message.
can not representative for withdraw lim kit siang for say boycott ceremony.
i hope PKR can as a MB, can be solve now problem.
hope Amwar help this issue.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 36.56
agree with what RocketDAp says….
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 37.05
chinese + indians over 55% population in perak
only 300++ message.
can not representative for withdraw lim kit siang for say boycott ceremony.
i hope PKR can as a MB, can be solve now problem.
hope Amwar help this issue.
we also dont want pas as MB, a seed will be come a big tree
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 38.20
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March 12th, 2008 at 23: 38.52
Saya merasa sungguh sedih dan kecewa dengan sikap pemimpin DAP yang diketuai oleh Lim Kit Siang sanggup mengeluarkan statement menentang keputusan Raja dalam memutuskan jawatan MB Perak. DAP perlu ingat, kemenangan PRU12 yang lepas oleh DAP bukan hanya oleh sokongan bangsa Cina tetapi juga Bangsa Melayu!! Salam simpati kepada DSAI kerana segala pengorbanan beliau selama ini seolah-olah terpadam dalam masa beberapa jam sahaja. Adalah menjadi harapan saya DSAI dapat mewujudkan seberapa segera majlis perundingan barisan alternatif bagi memastikan perkara begini tidak berlaku lagi. BA harus hanya mengeluarkan pernyataan sensitif seperti ini bersama. Sekiranya DAP tidak mahu dan tidak bersetuju, maka saya merasakan kita telah berada di pihak yang salah dan kita (PKR & PAS) perlu mengasingkan diri kita dengan DAP yang selama ini saya ingat telah meninggalkan semangat jumud bangsa cina! Kepada uncle Lim! air mata saya menitik merasa terharu bila mula-mula mendengar bahawa DAP akan akur dengan keputusan Raja tetapi harapan menggunung kepada pimpinan DAP terus hancur dengan kenyataan media tadi. Kepada mereka-mereka yang begitu racist terutamanya yang berbangsa cina perlu sedar dan akur DAP menang dengan sokongan melayu yang terdiri dari penyokong PAS,PKR dan juga Umno. Tanpa kami tidak mungkin DAP akan menang dan harus diingat kesemua kerusi yang dimenangi DAP, bangsa cina bukanlah majoriti kaum disitu (spt sg siput dll) tetapi oleh kerana percaya bahawa uncle lim dan rakan-rakan BA betul2 ikhlas maka kita memberi kerpercayaan kepada DAP. Kepada Puan Lina, u don’t derserve to give your comment here! u r too racist and chauvinist and should be sent to either Singapore or go back to China. If pas n umno members can learn how to accept the multiracial y not u? If u don’t want please give me your details so that i can keep your details. People like you and few others will lead to another 13 May incident. We the malays willing to forgo the DEB on the basis that you guys is really sincere but with this remark we won’t be sitting here silently. Becarefull of what you wish to
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 39.21
It is obvious your members in Perak have blundered. So as a responsible leader, stand by them. Please don’t destroy the hard work you’ve put in to get to this level. Don’t let BN say “you’ve split even before you’ve started”.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 39.56
feeling from sad and disappointed to worried… sighhhhh no eye see…
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 40.22
Uncle LIM,
I think many of us already showed our opinion in your blog….
i just cant log in because too many people there….
I have been very disappointed with PAS became MB previously…
but my mind changed after reading so many positive feedback from people….
I think you must re-consider the action u made in your blog…
If you not attend the ceremony, the fact still cant change as Sultan already made the decision
and you people already announced previously will respect Sultan decision…
Please look for a big picture and future plan…
the parlimen need PAS support to fight with BN…
the other state also the same…
Please dont spoilt people good feeling upon your son GOOD deeds in penang.
people just look down upon umno member who didn’t attend you son swearing-in ceremony…
why you wan to do something same?
please listen to the voice to people…
finally, please go to the swearing-in ceremony in Perak tomorrow…
don’t spoilt the hardwork of people for this election! thanks!
yours sincerely,
Dr Lim Tek Khoon
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 42.35
Sorry for triple posting. I thought something wrong with the server and I kept pressing “submit comment” so it came out more than once.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 42.43
For my just my opinion. No matter the MB is Malay, Chinese or Indian, this is not important. But when PAS hold MB post, this is most of the none muslim concern.
PAS will implement islamic law when hold the power. Islamic law is totally not accept by none muslim people just like the people at Kelantan. No night entertainment, different gender need to queue saperately when make payment at market etc.. ini tak boleh,
itu tak boleh… itulah PAS !!
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 42.59
YB LKS, your statement is not only paralysing for the rakyat but also the perfect ammunition for the BN. You may be a savvy, veteran politcian; you may even have your legitimate reasons (known only to you and a select few) for making this statement. I am not questioning your political capability. But I cannot believe that you would have disregarded the power of perception and public opinion especially at this nuptial stages of the inroads being made by the coalition. And therein lies the disastrous and unmitigated risks for all. I shudder to even think of the field day your opponents will have in the press tomorrow morning.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 43.28
the 3 names had been submitted.
All said will accept whoever to become MB.
Now, want to boycott the swearing-in ceremony.
What is this???
Please… tolong… dun do this.
Accept it and attend the ceremony
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 43.42
I have stayed in Kelantan for most of my life and I have no qualms living under the PAS administration.I find they are alot better than B.N. I came back to Kota Bharu for a week to campaign for PAS. I spoke at the Chinese ceramah in support of PAS.DAP show extend a olive hand to embrace PAS.Show your magnanimity by giving them the M.B post.It will win alot malay votes for DAP. Dont be short sighted and think of only immediate gains, look at the long term benefits.A journey of a thousand miles begins with a first step.Dont let your first step also becomes your last step.Just attend the swearing-in ceremony tomorrow.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 44.43
Well said RocketDAP
“Tomorrow is a new start for the new state government. Show the people that the mandate given was a right one.”
As tomorrow until next GE13, the new Colliation new State Government need to proof that they are indeed capable of doing and not just talking….as when you perform well….the next GE13, will be sapu not only the current 5 states…but indeed the whole nations the whole states…….. and that’s even a new Dawn for new Malaysia for Malaysian…..
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 45.21
Why are you protesting the PAS MB?
1. This was already agreed by your state leadership. Ngeh was at a JOINT press conference to announce the new MB.
2. If you were not happy, you should have made it clear at the outset. That is your failure.
3. Making a PUBLIC statement like this makes you look like a SORE LOSER.
4. If this is a coalition government, it does not matter if PAS has the least seats.
I attended your ceramah in USJ for Hannah Yeoh and thought you were for all Malaysians. Now I wonder if you are just for DAP. I am imploring all DAP MPs and State Assemblymen to go against the CEC statement.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 46.07
Ayo yo yo..
YB Lim,
What happen? Why said something when your team already said something else? Where is the integrity in your team?! Aiseh man… so sad lah…you can start make people think that the ‘protest’ is a waste… the only choice for ‘rakyat’ to show this ‘protest’ to BN is when DAP, PAS and PKR work together…believe me.
I don’t think you should worry about PAS. They know, Perak is not like Kelantan and this guy is not a stupid guy. Hence, DAP got biggest number of exco, right?
Please don’t repeat the BN style in the new ‘government-in-waiting’ team…very sad maaa…
ps: now is just 4 days…you got 4 years to go to prove your credibility to ‘rakyat’.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 47.19
yes guys… I think there are so many people reading this blog now.. the traffic is terribly slow…
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 47.33
Arrogant and childish act by DAP, trust me..you’ve just given the BN another good point to tell the Malay voters not to vote for DAP in the next election. So sentimental, stupid, arrogant, childish move!
You could have gained Malay supports by giving consent to the appointment, DAP can gain extra milleage in gaining supports from the Malay community by showing their support for this new PAS MB. So stupid..n what a waste of opportunity! Do you think you won the election all by yourself eh? I voted for you as a Malay….there are 70% of Malay community who still has big suspicion on DAP, you need their vote in the future, but you’ve just confirmed the “belief”.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 47.39
DAP might think losing malay support is OK..
Then I think by refusing to cooperate with PAS, It is clear that DAP are not much better than UMNO.. Another Ultra Racist Party..
PAS has willingness to change but DAP were not.. It shows that BR are not sincere enough.. next GE.. forget Perak..
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 49.45
The appointed MB is the main spokesperson for the government. Hence of critical concern is the handling over such an authority to a PAS representative to spread its ideology.
Mathematically – the objections to a PAS headed government should include BN for they do not agree to PAS ideology. Maybe BN can stand alongside as true Malaysians.
Now that the Royalty has thrown in the spanner, there is a real need of clarification to come from the palace in line with principle of democracy.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 49.46
LKS, Please have the DAP assemblymen attend the swearing-in ceremony. Demonstrate that we are truly Malaysians! Otherwise, it may undo all the good work by the millions of Malaysian voters who voted for Change.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 51.27
Please think of next GE, 41 out of 59 seats (From Perak) are from malay dominant area. If chinese become MB, 6 PAS and 7 PKR will loose as well in the next GE.
Besides, if you don’t want rep. from PAS to be MB, you should discuss with all other leaders earlier before submitting names to Sultan, this just show to all Malaysian you guys cant work together.
Also, please mind your words to be a DAP leader, last time you are from opposition so you don’t have to be responsible with what you had talked….
Now Sultan already announced, if you boycott…none of us will respect you anymore….
Please respect sultan and the whole malaysian will respect you..thanks
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 52.19
Apparently majority of us here have given our view that DAP should attend the swearing in ceremony. So DAP be wise. We know your constraint. Nobody will blame you and DAP. That’s why you are the government of Perak now. YB Lim, please make sure your DAP members are that in full support.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 53.05
Dear Mr. Lim Kit Siang,
Are you afraid of a political backlash from your Chinese voters if you do not object to a PAS MB? Please note that your Chinese voters will reject you the next round if the coalition govt. in Perak falls apart because DAP. Not only that but also Malays and Indians who have voted for DAP.
Please do the right thing and support the Sultan’s decision. The time for racial politics and postering is over. If you cannpt accept this, then consider taking your well earned retirement.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 54.14
Uncle Kit;
I really really thought BN’s media trying to demonized DAP when l read about DAP will boycotting Sultan of Perak (read people of Perak) until when I read myself still hard to believe I’m reading Lim Kit Siang’s blog (maybe BN elements already hack ya blog?).
When the supporter of BR stroke the pencil during GE12 nothing in their mind BUT to deny BN 2/3 victory (in this non-representative FPTP electoral system instead of better OMOV system).
If they realized the supreme leader of DAP (LKS) will do this to the trust given, THEY’LL DEFINITELY WILL NEVER VOTE FOR BR though this is loose alliance unlike BN.
Your corky-ness will destroy people hope to have better Malaysia in the next election (I guess you rather give ya vote to BN instead of PAS and even Anwar if you know he’ll give you unfavorable effect). This is the Opposition leader we used to know, isn’t? Or you just ready to be a Opposition Leader instead of a statesman? I guess so if we take latest scenario.
You show no difference than TDM, LKS pun mudah lupa just because you have ya son as Penang CM, majority in KL seats, won in Kuching and KK. No wonder you and Guan Eng mere trying to deny BN 2/3 instead of ruling this country better than corrupted BNputras’ government.
Please withdraw ya statement and ask for apology to the King (well educated and from Ivy League and UK top varsity as well, and he has same view like us).
Ya stubborn will only benefit BNputras (l’m no surprise if you will surrender ya seat to Perak BN).
Maybe quit from politic is best decision you must opt if it’s better for Malaysia and Malaysians at large. Too old and we have new aspiration to get rid RACIAL-BASED political action. Remember we don’t want racism rule us. Arrogant has no place in Barisan Rakyat. Perhaps, we should have a REAL pact instead of loose one like this.
Forgive my harsh words BTW l still respect you Uncle Kit but you must have brand new positioning in ya political decision. get rid the has-been things in yourself.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 55.09
Uncle Lim, not to worry whom is the MB, whether from PAS, PKR or DAP bottom line, we want someone who can work and honest. As what people say, it doesn’t matter whether the colour of the cat is grey, white, brown or etc as long as it can catch the rat it’s fine.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 55.50
YB Lim KS,
It is understandable that you have hot opposition blood running in your veins. But please do not object for the sake of objecting. What happened to the ideology of doing what is best for the people?
It does not matter that the MB is from PAS, PKR, DAP, MIC or even UMNO. What the people want is someone who will lead and govern effectively, and fairly. Please focus on the unifying common ground of putting the welfare and development of the state and its people!!! Isn’t that what you have preached all along?
The MB is just a person. There will always be personal traits in a person. The person will carry the identity of Malay, Chinese, Indian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Christian, etc.
So, why are we so fixated on these personal identity traits? As long as the new MB is able to rise above these ‘marks’ and put the people and state above himself, how can you argue against that person?
And most of all, you have done a great disservice to yourself chiefly, and DAP as a whole by going against the Sultan of Perak.
I forgive your ignorance since you are not from Perak. But let it be known that the single most important unifying factor in the heart of all Perakians is the respect and reverence for our Sultan.
You politicians from PKR, PAS, DAP or BN can argue all you want on who better represents the people. But the fact is the people has the utmost respect for the Sultan. For the simple reason of regal and dignified manner which he carry himself and the Royal institution of Perak, the Sultan automatically wins the heart of the people. No need for any heated Ceramah!!!
YB Lim KS, please retract your statement. Else you will incur the wrath of the entire loyal subjects of His Excellency Sultan Azlan Shah.
As for DAP Perak, (especially Ngeh Koo Ham and Nga Kor Ming) please have the guts to stand up to the so called CEC.
Please stand up for the the word and pact that you have committed to in accepting the Sultan’s decision.
You are the wakil rakyat. And the people who voted for you overwhelmingly supports the decision of the Sultan. So please act as you promise. Represent the voice of the Rakyat. We put our trust in you.
Don’t disappoint us.
http://sai-mun.blogspot.com/
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 56.03
uncle lim, if you dislike PAS becoming the MB, you shud voice out before the sultan announces. DAP dont juz depends on chinese votes to win, if not for malay voters, opposition probably cannot form the government. Maybe DAP n PAS have different ideologies, but PAS only have 6, DAP 18…DAP still controls, and i’m sure if the coalition govern well people will have no qualms to vote in u again, no matter what race……….when DAP can work wif other parties, It can attract support from all races, that’s only when bangsa malaysia can fully achieve
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 56.06
YB Lim KS,
It is understandable that you have hot opposition blood running in your veins. But please do not object for the sake of objecting. What happened to the ideology of doing what is best for the people?
It does not matter that the MB is from PAS, PKR, DAP, MIC or even UMNO. What the people want is someone who will lead and govern effectively, and fairly. Please focus on the unifying common ground of putting the welfare and development of the state and its people!!! Isn’t that what you have preached all along?
The MB is just a person. There will always be personal traits in a person. The person will carry the identity of Malay, Chinese, Indian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Christian, etc.
So, why are we so fixated on these personal identity traits? As long as the new MB is able to rise above these ‘marks’ and put the people and state above himself, how can you argue against that person?
And most of all, you have done a great disservice to yourself chiefly, and DAP as a whole by going against the Sultan of Perak.
I forgive your ignorance since you are not from Perak. But let it be known that the single most important unifying factor in the heart of all Perakians is the respect and reverence for our Sultan.
You politicians from PKR, PAS, DAP or BN can argue all you want on who better represents the people. But the fact is the people has the utmost respect for the Sultan. For the simple reason of regal and dignified manner which he carry himself and the Royal institution of Perak, the Sultan automatically wins the heart of the people. No need for any heated Ceramah!!!
YB Lim KS, please retract your statement. Else you will incur the wrath of the entire loyal subjects of His Excellency Sultan Azlan Shah.
As for DAP Perak, (especially Ngeh Koo Ham and Nga Kor Ming) please have the guts to stand up to the so called CEC.
Please stand up for the the word and pact that you have committed to in accepting the Sultan’s decision.
You are the wakil rakyat. And the people who voted for you overwhelmingly supports the decision of the Sultan. So please act as you promise. Represent the voice of the Rakyat. We put our trust in you.
Don’t disappoint us.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 56.09
Is the end of the DAP be near? Will it break up?
It has lost its direction, its values, its raison d’etre.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 56.35
AGREED with the majority that DAP should be present at the CM swearing-in.
Give it a go and no one can say that DAP didnt give it a try.
BE MALAYSIAN, THINK MALAYSIAN!!
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 56.40
I am astounded! However as a battle hardened veteran who hold strongly to principles and the lesson you have learned from previous experience I can somewhat emphatise with the stand you have taken.
But you have seen the opinions expressed and you know that the majority of your supporters accept the decision in the greater interest of heralding in a new dawn of non-communal politics in Malaysia. Please do not lose sight of victory over communalism because of your stand against PAS’ Islamic State stand.
Everything in the world is in constant change and nothing is permanent. Do not cling on to unhappy memories. I hope you will not boycott the swearing in of the new Perak MB. I would like to share this with you:
I cannot tell if what the world considers “happiness” is happiness or not. All I know is that when I consider the way they go about attaining it, I see them carried away headlong, grim, and obsessive, in the general onrush of the human herd, unable to stop themselves or to change their direction. All the while they claim to be just on the point of attaining happiness. My opinion is that you never find happiness until you stop looking for it.
Chuang Tzu
PLEASE LOOK AT OUR PAS BROTHER AS A PART OF OUR STRUGGLE FOR A NEW MALAYSIA.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 57.35
yes, devilonpois…
agree…. I really hope that DAP, PKR and PAS
will sapu all states of M’sia in the next election.
But now, with such an announcement of not
attending the swearing-in ceremony, it really
makes many supporters upset.
Please… DAP leaders, attend the ceremony
and accept & respect the final decision made by
Sultan Perak.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 57.43
YB LKS, don’t sacrifice the jungle because of just one tree.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 57.50
After 50 long years we, the rakyat, has finally reached maturity and plucked up our courage to vote out the racist and divisive BN politicians. We do not want to go back to such a polorised society. Please tell us the BR polticians are not of the same mould as the BN politicians.
Please move away from racial politics.
BR reps., do all you can to strenghten the baby step we have taken toward true democracy. Don’t bring our nation backward!
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 57.57
Richard Teo,
If the opposition alliance is non racist, then why can’t they accept the DAP candidate as the MB of Perak? Don’t get me wrong. I propose DAP candidate because the party has the most number of seats in the opposition coalition not because DAP candidate is a Chinese. I have no objection to PKR candidate being proposed and appointed as the MB of Selangor.
In Perak, I think PKR and PAS should have voluntarily declined to offer their respective candidacies for the MB post in the first place if they are genuine and sincere in their cooperation. We should distinguish the difference between a DAP candidate and a Chinese candidate. DAP has the most number of assemblymen in the coalition and therefore naturally it should be given the first choice and other parties (PKR and PAS) should only come into the picture when HRH has rejected the DAP candidate.
I strongly believe the process must be allowed to take its course first before other names (from PKR and PAS) are proposed and considered. This is what Malaysians First is all about. This is the raison d’etre of DAP. What has had happened in Perak today showed that DAP is no difference from MCA and Gerakan.
I therefore blame everybody – the coalition for being greedy, DAP Perak for being stupid and also for being too eager to form the government and to get the deputy MB and other exco posts and DAP CEC for not holding a tight reign on important matters such as this one.
I agree with others that it is probably too late now to boycott the swearing-in ceremony. But I also think that DAP is going to suffer big time.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 58.13
Personally I dun support PAS at all, since that its not a party for ALL. I have no idea why you guys submitted 3 names indeed of 2 (DAP and PKR) for Sultan to make his decision, if DAP can’t accept PAS assembly person to be chosen. Anyway, since that Sultan already made his decision and I really feel that we all should show our respect to him.
Why we all voted opposition parties? Cause we all wish to setup a new era for this country. And we all hope that all races can work together and all religions should respect each other. Since that the decision was made by Sultan, yet I believe that public especially non-Muslim will understand this. Although some might mind Perak has a PAS MB, but many more else will concern more to state’s administration. As long as we can see the changes in administration, we shouldn’t care so much on MB. (Personally I somehow feel that UNMO and PAS have no different at all)
Uncle Lim I know that you did sick after election and perhaps you need more rest right now, but still I hope that DAP will go for swearing-in ceremony due to the below reasons:
(1) DAP wont did well without the support of Malay~ Our biggest race in this country is Malay. No party can represent all of us as a Malaysian if without the support of Malay. And all Malay in this country is Muslim. What will they feel later if they know about Uncle Lim’s team in Perak dun even willing to ‘give face’ to Sultan as well as the newest MB?
(2) DAP urges to build up Malaysian spirit~ We are always asking others to be fair and dun treat us depend on our religions and races. Uncle Lim dun you think that we should show this 1st before we could ask other to do the same on us? We know the decision for MP selection was made by Sultan and its due to State’s law. That why we understand that even Uncle Lim go for swearing-in ceremony also didn’t mean that Uncle Lim as well as DAP has changed mind and to endorse PAS mission just because of wana gain more seats or support. We trust DAP and Uncle Lim. We understand also in order to have a functional coalition states government; all 3 parties should respect each others. Uncle Lim just goes. We need to show the majority (Malay-Muslim) that we respect them and willing to work together with them. And DAP is ready for everyone, even a Muslim!
(3) Its more just Perak~ I know DAP has the most seats in Perak. But can DAP gain the most seat in other states in future especially those with heavy population of Malay? Or DAP just care about those states leaded by DAP and ‘hand-over’ others to PAS-PKR? Let think about this way. Now we respect them, and in future a new states (which PAS leading) government will need to show their respect to us as well. Otherwise they will just say, WHY should I listen to you? Dun you remember you dun even show your respect to us in perak? Or Uncle LIM you decided to abandon those which are in such states were PAS will be the leader?
(4) What make Oppositions-Barisan Different from Barisan-National? ~Uncle Lim pls think about this question before you go sleep! Why we all support Opposition-Barisan( Barisan rakyat and Barisan Alternatif) right now? This is because we all wish to form a new Barisan where every parties within it can really respect each others and form a ‘fair stage’ for every discussion. We already have ‘Barisan National’ but we did decision to switch other support is simply because of there is no Respect at all within Barisan National. The leader party inside BN just too self-oriented and this cause no way for a ‘fair-stage’ to be form.
Now DAP had the most seats in Perak as well as the coalition states Government. Are you going to show other that DAP just like another leader party inside BN? Or you want to show Malay that DAP can respect them (even PAS). I believe that PAS will sure appreciating ours respect, and this might convincing them to change the way even for those states where lead by them in future? Future more, Nizar just someone extraordinary, and I did really never expect PAS has someone like him.
No matter how, I still think that if we really want to build up MALAYSIAN SPIRIT, yet we should respect every capable person. Anyone can simply change his party of involved; we shouldn’t ignore anyone just because of his party. Without PAS (although they are the smallest party in this states coalition ) still we are unable to form a new government for Perak.
So, Uncle Lim …… Please go…. If you feel sick you can rest at home and as some other else to represent DAP for that historical day..
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 58.30
Yes, do the right thing. Anything to proof to the BN and esp. the people that the BR can rule!
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 59.09
A suggestion from me. Those in the state government, no matter DAP, PAS, PKR, should detach themselves from their own parties. This will avoid many doubts
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 59.17
Please understand Mr Lim has a very heavy responsible to face those who has support his Party. Maybe PAS should come out more often to alleviate the fear of the non muslim. Anyway I hope DSAI will come and help to find a solution to this predicament.
March 12th, 2008 at 23: 59.36
YB Kit,
I am a true supporter of DAP and you in particular and have done my best this GE to spread the hope of a new Msia to everyone I know. The results was astounding!
But after this episode I have my doutbs.
DOes it really matter who is the MB? The rakyat have cross racial borders to vote for each other to kick out BN and now you are doing this of all people?
If PAS, PKR and DAP can work together in the most difficult of places imagine what you guys can do in the next GE!
If PAS MB cant perform, the next GE if BA/BR again comes into power I am sure The SUltan will do what is right then.
You guys are walking on a thin line and nothing is certain for now. ALl it takes is a spark to start a fire and BN will again come back into full power and if that is the case, all I can say is Let’s pack our bags and leave for greener pastures!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 01.05
Newly appointed Menteri Besar of Perak Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin of PAS gives a press conference after seeking an audience with Raja Muda of Perak Raja Nazrin Shah at Istana Kinta in Ipoh Wednesday. He says all decisions will be a COLLECTIVE decisions of the 3 parties.
Please do the right thing and attend the ceremony.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 02.22
now problem is PAS.
Sultan consents, Islam, malay, DEMOCRATIC which one is important ?
sultan consents+islam+malay+democratic = PAS or PKR
PAS – objection by chinese or indian also reject by DAP
But PKR can accepts by All race, why no choose PKR, also support DAP.
support DAP no attend the swearing-in ceremony tomorrow.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 02.30
Does a fundamental PAS brother has non-PAS brothers’ interests at heart for the larger good? I have my doubts.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 02.32
DAP state assembly men should attend the swearing ceremony. This is only the beginning. It is better to quickly form the state government before any enticement to jump ships. This will not only disappoint all DAP supporters but also allow BN to tell the whole world that DAP, PKR and PAS coalition does not work.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 04.37
YB,
I am equally shocked that PAS has been chosen to be MB of Perak, being party with least seats. Rightfully should be from the DAP or the very least PKR due to Perak State constitution. Boycotting the swearing ceremony will serve nothing but fall into the hands of the BN who will say……….there you see, they can’t even see eye to eye even before the work starts. Pls do not follow the unsporting behaviour of the 11 Penang BN assemblymen who boycotted YB Guan Eng’s swearing in ceremony. Lets prove to the arrogant BN that the coalition can not only work but do a better job. Just ensure Perak is not a PAS govt but a coalition govt. Composition of State Excos and key positions must reflect this.
Lets move on…………..
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 05.41
Uncle Kit,
I’m from PJ, we have helped in the campaigning of Tony, Weng San and Dr Cheah’s seats, also contributed to Jeff’s campaigning fund.
We were at DAP PJ jumping with joy together with the PJ team when the results came in on 8th March 2008, and we had fried meehoon for supper!
All the people I know do not have problem accepting PAS to be on our side.
Please do not spoil it with the non-existence fear of a Chinese vote backlash, DAP will instead gain more from Malay vote in the next GE.
If say 1-2 years down the road, DAP find that the MB is no going the right direction, then DAP ADUN can always walkout right?
So, please go attend the swearing in tomorrow, or rather today to show respect to the Sultan.
Please!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 05.49
Don’t boycott and break the last chance for unity.
I love DAP …. I would have voted for PAS to teach BN a lesson. Instead now YB LKS , you need to learn to break from racial/religion politics. PAS as far as I can see, is changing and maybe this is the best chance to change them.
issuing a statement ONLY AFTER Perak Sultan had made up his mind is being utterly disrespectful. You should have said it earlier but you did NOT.
My Buddhist/Chinese family still live in Perak and they do not see any problem as long as DAP is still in control.
Long live DAP and democracy.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 06.36
1st of all, what is the objective of BR?
Against BN 2/3 majority both Parliaments and state governments.
Now can rule the state government consider as “bonus”.
Now BN is look at you all and start laughing. Don’t let BN use this as your weakness to split the BR.
You all has same “enemy” ie. BN, stop in fighting.
I know your main worry — BN especially MCA and Gerakan will use this to attack DAP.
Why not discuss PKR and PAS and ask them to come out and explain to the public. Before MCA and Gerakan make it a big issue.
Please respect Sultan decision, moreover this is agree during the time 3 party summited the candidates to Sultan.
**Remember, if DAP (18 Seats), PKR (7 seats) and PAS (6 seats) cannot unite, then cannot form the government. You need to unite to form minor majority.
This is what BN (28 seats) wants to see, in fighting between BR party. Just why till now, Ex-MB disappear since losing election. He know BR sure have the problem in MB decision.
BR, let show supporters, your strengths and not your weaknesses.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 07.17
DAP please go for the ceremony. We have to be realistic – we are in Malay land! We have to be practical and understanding. MB at times has to attend religious functions. It is impossible for a Chinese MB to handle this kind of functions. It is the prerogative of the Sultan to select the person best suited for the MB post. Presumably one of the requirements for the post is that the person must have very good knowledge of Islam so that he can effectively handle religious functions. If that is the case, I am not surprised that PAS candidate is selected. None of the coalition component members is to blame, if PAS candidate is selected. Just respect the Sultan’s choice and abide by the country’s constitution.
I suggest DAP take the post of Deputy MB if it is offered. I think DAP should explain clearly to its voters why a Malay Muslim with good Islamic knowledge is preferred for the post of MB, making clear that the element of discrimination does not play a part. DAP should also reassure its voters that although the MB is a Malay but decision making in running the state is done collectively by component members of the coalition. I am sure voters will accept DAP’s explanation.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 08.57
My Hero YB Lim,
I’m sure your are a wise man and please make sure your DAP member attend the ceremony. It has been 50+ years we all pushing the huge wheel called “Malaysia For Malaysian”. Now the wheel is start rolling and it might take 5 or 10 years, my wish, to reach the finish line. Please don’t put a huge stone in front of the wheel because I don’t have another 50 years to wait. My Hero, please grant me my wish.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 09.58
Stand United! Don’t boycott as this is not wise.This is a test!
If you fight over a state then how are the oppositions going to
win the heart of Malaysians for the next GE?
It will become a laughing stock of the BN.
Be sensible and don’t lock horns.In the end it will spell
DISASTER!!!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 11.03
PErhaps we all should urge DAP committees and supporters to accept the wishes of the rakyat. Give PAS the MB post. Perhaps the pressure came from grassroots and YB Lim has to do what’s good for the party first.
But let’s look at the bigger picture. We havent even won yet (take over the govt) and we have already burned all our bridges.
Majority of the comments here urged you to reconsider. Pls tell you DAP supporters to accept the wishes of the rakyat and most of us here are chinese.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 11.30
Clearly, the deserving Perak MP should go to DAP or at least PKR – it’s the wish of the people and the electorate. It is the question of principle of upholding democracy which we in Malaysia are all about moving forward to the future. If a PAS candidate is to be selected (which in this case garnered the least votes in this state), it does not reflects favorably on the outcome of the elections. It’s almost as if the elections didn’t matter at all. Then, why have it – this is sad..
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 12.11
DAP leaders, this announcement has really made
many people upset, sad, worried, and probably
have a sleepless night.
Many of us still not sleeping yet at this time, because
we are all very concerned about the negative effect of
this decision of not-attending-swearing-in-ceremony,
which will bring towards DAP later.
We people are not politicians like you all.
So, what we want are very simple:
Peaceful & Progressive environment
in Perak.
With such a fighting of MB position,
what is the point? Many of us who are
from Perak really don’t mind of having
a MB from PAS.
We just want to see good jobs and
good policies being able to implemented
by you all – PKR, PAS and DAP.
Please listen to many of our comments
here and attend the swearing-in ceremony
with open-heart.
We still support you people, no matter what
will happen, but not a decision like this, which
does not show any respect to Sultan Perak’s
final decision.
Thank you.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 13.18
Mr. Lim, from the hundreds of comments posted here, the majority disagree with your decision to boycott the swearing in. Are you going to stick to your poor decision? Remember it takes a strong person to admit he’s wrong but a weak-willed one will just cling to a bad decision just for “face”.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 13.19
lim kit siang… dont b stupid la.. fikir dulu seblm buat kenyataan. 8 mac lepas kita berjaya gagalkan 2/3 Bn krn usaha semua rakyat m;sia . bukan usaha kamu 1 org PAHAM!!! kenyataan kamu boleh jadi akan membuatkan org2 PAS kecil ati..boleh kamu bayangkan kalau PAS bertindak bergabung dengan UMNO? BN akan dpat kembali 2/3 majoriti dan segala usaha kita GAGAL!!!.. so plz .. lebih baik kamu berusaha jernihkn keadaan … ambil hati urg2 melayu dan pas..
ya… kamu terasa puas kerana dapat membuat keputusan ‘keras’ sebagai membalas keputusan M.B itu. kamu kununnya rasa rugi.. tetapi tahu kah kamu ianya membuatkan org marah.. kini semua marah pd kamu.. saya percaya urg cina juga marah pd kamu..
kamu sebenarnya telah terlepas peluang keemasan utk menaan hati urg melayu dan islam seluruh penduduk m’sia .saya membayangkan jika kamu mengeluarkan kenyataan ‘DAP gembira dan bersetuju dengan pilihan yang telah di buat sultan’ sebentar tadi, saya pecaya seluruh bangsa melayu dan islam dari perlis sehingga ke johor , sbh srwk akan ‘jatuh cinta ‘ dgn kamu dan DAP.. bukan kah ini baik utk parti DAP? mereka bkan hanya memangkah DAP hanya utk 5 thn tapi mungkin hingga dunia kiamat..
pengajaran:- pejuang yg hebat bukan memilih faedah besar yang hanya akan kekal sehari ,tetapi memilih faedah kecil d hari ini utk menggapai faedah lebih besar hari esok dan selamanya…
sekian..
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 13.51
Dear YB LIM KIT SIANG,
I am a malay and the recent election was my first vote for DAP. And I think it will be my last after your intention to boycott the swearing ceremony. There are 3 possible reasons why you did this:
(1) you were being paid by BN
(2) you are damn stupid
(3) you are a racist
As a malay I dont mind at all if the Sultan decided to choose a chinese as a MB even if PAS or PKR has the majority as long as its not BN.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 15.05
I am from Pasir Puteh, a Malay Muslim of PAS member. Me and my colleagues worked like hell to convince our people to vote for Uncle Lim and Thomas Su and we paid huge price for that. We worked so hard to explain why we should vote for DAP instead of BN even though Uncle Lim and Thomas Su had never been to our kampung and meet the Malay voters.
Why was that?
It was because we believed that DAP is now 39 years more matured than what BN always said about the 1969 whatsoever. We believe that BN, even if they are from the same family of us, are never better than any of the opposition parties.
PAS had grew so much. The idea of Islamism is very much dynamic as you can even see in many other countries. PAS worked so hard to educate its people that Islamic State is not about hudud or closing down cinemas. We want good governance. Malay, Chinese, Indian whatsoever have more potential to grow under good governance rather than the so called DEB.
PAS and PKR are not the enemy of DAP. But this the time to see how DAP can play with the rule and learn to create changes by priorities. PAS had already made its statement that they will cooperate with whoever the appointed MB is going to be.
But Uncle Lim, you really dissapointed us.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 16.28
I am a Penang born chinese and even i can see how bad all this looks.
Perak is a Malay state with a Malay sultan. It should have a Malay MB. Submiting a chinese candidate for the post of MB of Perak shows a complete lack of respect to the sensitivities of the malays.
I was shocked at such a decision. I had expected DAP to graciously select a Malay from either PKR or PAS.
Even more shocking. Rejecting the decision of the sultan, the malay symbol of authority, of the selection of a PAS MB, is an insult to all malays.
You DAP-CEC people, you have just stepped all over malays. And after all that talk about equal treatment for all races and a new dawn. Aren’t you all ashamed?
Maybe i should vote Gerakan next time cause Koh Tsu Khoon has shown more honour and grace in his defeat than the lot of you. Show some respect to the malays!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 18.30
Jeffrey’s and Limkamput’s excellent posts have said most of what I want to say.
Kit Siang has done the right thing in protesting the appointment of PAS candidate as the Perak MB, which shows that he does not give up his principles for the sake of consolidating his power.
PAS says that they will make all decisions collectively. But given that Kit Siang says in this post that the DAP CEC was not prepared to accept a PAS candidate for the MB post in their meeting on Sunday, PKR and PAS’s decision to nominate the PAS candidate is clearly not a collective decision. If DAP compromise on the grounds of political realities, they would be no different from MCA and GERAKAN, who was notorious for kow-towing to the demands of UMNO.
This is a matter of principles. Given that Anwar campaigned on the platform of anti-race-based politics, PKR should advocate the appointment of Perak MB without reference to race and religion.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 18.57
[...] to Lim Kit Siang, DAP will boycott the swearing-in of PAS’s Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin as the new Perak Menteri [...]
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 19.12
BN media will hv a field day esok. And this will be used over and over again in the next GE as a reminder.
Thank you DAP!
Jom Just Migrate!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 20.20
Please, everyone, come to your senses – during election day you have shown to have them – please!
While it is understood, that some feel 18 seats are comparatively more than 6, and they are, 18 seats are not even one third of the overall seats. Will you please keep this in mind!
This slope of thoughts is too slippery, hopelessly slippery. Nobody gave DAP any kind of majority in Perak. Contrary to Penang.
The moment anyone brings up numbers, the Sultan has one choice: swear in a BN person. Because BN was given the highest number of seats, 28.
We have been able to convince the Sultan, that his people have taken the liberty to allocate 31 seats to DKP (the alternative political group consisting of DAP-PKR-PAS). It would be political suicide to start bickering in front of the Sultan, about who has contributed more. Actually, if he was interested in the welfare of His People, and I am sure he is, he ought to withdraw his offer and instead pass the post to someone from BN. Together we stand, divided we fall; and in this case not only as metaphor, but in real numbers.
So stop even *thinking* in numbers, will you.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 20.57
Please don’t boycott the swearing in ceremony tomorrow. Instead attend the ceremony with open heart. As long as the MB treat all races equally, that’s not the big issue who become MB.
BN is waiting for the chances to fire BA. don’t give them a chance. Show to all Malaysian that BA treat everybody equally. We are all Malaysian, no Malay, no Chinese, no Indian, etc…… anymore
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 22.58
Hey guys. What Kit Siang did is TOTALLY understandable. He is just speaking up for many of us who do not understand why PKR cannot be give the MB.
Is it so strange that many of us have reservations over PAS agenda? When we voted for DAP in Multi-racial Perak, we did not vote for a PAS MB. We thought this would only happen in Kelantan. Imagine our dilemmna when we get a PAS MB by voting for DAP? Our joy has turned into a strange disappointment. Would those things that is implemented in Kelantan be done in Perak. Would our personal freedom be jeopardize? A lot of fear in our own home.
Now that the decision has been made, I am sure Kit Siang and DAP would know what to do. We have to movement forward and make Perak the best Coalition Government. Just give Kit Siang has space to voice our fears and concerns. Remember, we are not even asking for DAP MB. We are just asking for a neutral PKR MB when DAP has won 3X more than the next guy. Is this so unreasonable? You mean we can’t even voice our disappointment?
Going forward, we would like to see PAS exhibit their professionalism and progressive thinking so that in the next GE, there would be absolutely no inhibitions on our part not to support PAS. Guys, its still early days, don’t get excited. Let’s let PAS prove they have no hidden agenda. Thereafter in the next GE, we would be ONE BIG BARISAN RAKYAK FAMILY. PAS, over to you to demonstrate that you are able to be fair to all races and religions!
If you can, all of you please help Kit Siang explain to people who have reservations about PAS. This would help him a great deal.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 23.18
YB Lim, I have been a DAP supporter and followed your political career since the 1974 elections (Yes, 1974 when I was still in school). I have the highest respect for you but I believe this is a mistake. Please do the right thing and let the DAP assemblymen attend the swearing-in ceremony.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 24.46
“…you have an overwhelming Majority of malay representative DUN as compared to the 18 DAP DUNs.So where can DAP has the numerical strength to demand a chinese M.B?” Richard Teo
How stupid can anybody get??
Convention requires that the leader of the political party that wins the elections head the executive branch. BN did not win the elections! It is not a matter that is subject to voting cetainly not one involving members of the party which lost the elections! Hello??
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 25.40
Go ahead BOIKOT THE CEREMONY. u think ur DAP can win with ur own man. this is the stupidest thing since the false politic tsunami. u, guan eng and DAP are already history.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 25.58
Uncle Kit, no one can say anything bad about DAP from today onwards. The majority here say they voted for you and you should listen to the people’s voices, and they want DAP to compromise because of the big picture, haven’t they told the MCA and Gerakan to compromise before and later voted and dump them? It is the voters that made MCA and Gerakan what they are today and the same thing they want to make DAP become tomorrow. Sad!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 26.00
Attending the swearing-in cremony with open-heart will at least reflect that DAP is liberal….. just saw the TV3 news…the whole nation already know… so if tomorrow, not shown in the swearing ceremony…. what i can say haha…
8-Mar the star rise…and we see light and future…and 13-Mar, the star falling down….
what a pity….. we lost the entire forest…just because of one tree….
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 26.54
My friends WE still have all those fifty filthy years of slavery lag and servant mentality in our coconut head.
and still not have enough of it , unable to get sober yet—
I thought you guys wanted democracy and change and a forward change….think aloud man, think outside the box, get into the MILLENNIUM not at the brim and all those catchy and rhymies slogans,,,,,you fellas think this is just a soccer match or what still in front of the telly box over a cuppa..
Get into the main stream get into GLOBALISATION, it not a just stream we are crossing it , it is our children future and their children and there not enough place for old ancient ways , especially feudal ways, those are fairy tales….it wont thinking wont help the future.
Don just please yourself the today’s men, the ego are way over us.,
todays children need to study matrices mathematics, not anymore sequential arithmetics.
Why we being parents are still bickering over todays face saving or this right that right.
All the learning and reasoning cannot help us, because many cant get rid of the inferior complex between master and servant.
JUST CHANGE, it is just talk or what.
FORGET ABOUT THE CEREMONY
” majority” wins means shit and
it just an english word.
Stay FOCUS if your head is not a COCONUT.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 27.38
can we stop spoiling the mood the Malaysians are having now? we are very happy with the victory. stop fighting for position. whoever it is dont be power hunger… we need a oppositin to guide us and save us from BN. not to fight each and other.. so YB kit Siang plzzzz stop this
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 28.39
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March 13th, 2008 at 00: 29.19
Mr Lim,
With your comments clearly written in black and white, do I sense an arrogance that comes with power? Would you care to write in your blog why are you so against a PAS candidate being the MB? Let all the people know your reasons.
We have supported you during the election and now I sense that there is a feeling of invincibility on your side. Bear in mind that we have voted out the BN and we can also cooperate with the BN to do other things.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 30.05
[...] No DAP CEC mandate for PAS Menteri Besar in Perak [...]
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 30.11
DAP, I am very disappointed in the proposed absense from the swearing in ceremony. We have to accept the Sultan’s choice since Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin was one of the three names submitted to the Sultan. Why submit his name in the first place? And remember we all complain earlier when BN absense themselves from Lim G E’s swearing in? And what do the rakyat think of that BN action? God has mercifully shown us the deplorable absence of BN to tell us (DAP) not to follow suit.
DAP is unanimously requested to attend to show magnanimity and graciousness.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 30.17
This is another Fong Ku Kuan incident. I am too sick with DAP’s sandiwara.
My warning to Lim, the moment you boycott swearing-in ceremony, DAP will be out of Malaysian political radar forever.
We ordinary rakyat just live in a hopelesss land governed by BN forever.
As Malay folk says “itu takdir tuhan!”
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 31.02
This kind of issues dont take too long for Media to Publish.
Already on Bernama News tonight and maybe Tomorrows Npaper..
So prepare to face the MALAYSIAN.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 33.11
i totally agree with you, alancheah
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 33.25
you know if this nizar was waving keris, or waving the quran, spewing islamic stuff non stop, or not qualified, then mabye the boycott is justified,
instead, DAP is just acting like sore losers, sour grapes, power hungry, WTH la! dont make DAP supporters look bad !
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 33.26
“Good point 9to5. Exactly what I posted earlier. There’s something amiss in the picture. Why the Sultan suddenly step in when BR won and never when BN won.”
INTERESTING QUESTION, COULD IT BE BN IS PULLING PLUGS ON FINANCING ARRANGEMENTS TO OUR BELOVED SULTANS, LEAVING NOT MUCH CHOICE? OR COULD IT BE THAT SULTAN IS CONSCIOUS OF THE SENSITIVITIES OF INTRODUCING A CHINESE DAP MB AND YET HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT PKR LEADERSHIP (A MUCH MUCH BIGGER LONGER TERM POINT OF VIEW ON MSIAN POLITICS) AND HENCE PICKED PAS.
“energize Says:
Yesterday at 22: 59.45
I am a God-fearing malay muslim who prays 5 times a day. I am a PAS supporter but (and?) I voted for DAP parliamentary candidate in my area – the candidate won.
I am sure many other malay muslims did the same – showing our support behind BR regardless whether it was DAP, PKR or PAS because we believed in the coalition and what it could potentially achieve.
We overcame our reservations about DAP and told ourselves that DAP fights for justice and fairplay, which are central Islamic values and in any case PAS and DAP have looked past their differences and are working together with PKR on their shared struggle.
Now comes this news.
To me, this only confirms my fears that DAP doesn’t really care very much about malays, muslims or the sovereignity of the Sultans.
It’s also stupid and just drags everyone else in the BR coalition down. You’re just committing suicide.
Please, don’t make me regret my vote. Retract the statement please.
Remember, we voted you in and we can vote you out.”
ENERGIZE, GLAD THAT YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS OVERCAME THE FEAR OF DAP. EQUALLY, GLAD THAT SO MANY ON THIS THREAD ARE SO SUPPORTIVE OF PAS. TIMES HAVE CHANGED FOR THE BETTER. YB, WE ALL HAVE MUCH TO DO, DO WHAT U HAVE TO, AS ALWAYS FOR THE BETTER OF MSIA AND ITS PEOPLE.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 33.28
Kit Siang,
Many chinese have prejudice against PAS, like wise many malays have against a chinese Perak MB. We have to live with some compromise for the sake of Malaysia. To have a chinese Perak MB is too drastic of a change for Malaysians, on top of that PKR do not have a good line up for a MB candidate compared to PAS. Furthermore, the newly formed govt. gave the Sultan 3 candidates to choose from, the Sultan has made his choice. We must respect it. What good do you expect from the boycott? There might be uneasiness about it at the beginning, but Trust is needed in for this coalition to work out. Proof to us it is worth voting for the opposition!!
Please reconsider the boycott and make this GOVERNMENT work! We have to hope for the best, furthermore, the people of Perak has given the mandate to the opposition parties to make the change. JUST DO IT!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 33.36
Why there was 3 cadidates submited to Sultan rather than 2, if DAP dun willing to accept abother 1?
The question now is not about who should take the MB post. This is because Sultan already made his very decision.
The question now is about whether we are going to show our ‘RESPECT’ or not…
If we can Respect Sultan, new MB and PAS.. yet we can expect to have the same respect as the return from Malay as well as Muslim.
If we arent prepared to show our respect to other, yet we shouldnt ask other to respect us or work together with us in any kind.
We are the one who urge to form Malaysian Spirit- which respect each other in no account of races and relegions. Please show to the majority (Malay-Muslim) that we as the minority can repect, will respect Sultan and PAS, for the very least as we all are Malaysian.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 33.55
A respect given will be a respect earned. DAP must do the right thing and not make this into a joke. LKS wake up. You are now part of a state government and a Federal govt in-waiting. Please look at the bigger picture. My friend madfish a staunch supporter was appaled when he saw your statement.
A new dawn has already started. Don’t let this be the down fall of DAP.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 33.58
I don’t have time to read every single response of this blog, but I think 99% of these over 300 responses are disappointed with LKS statement and decision.
I too is disappointed with it. I supported DAP so far, and this is not something I like to see. I thought DAP always believe “Malaysia for Malaysian.” What’s wrong with having a PAS member as the MB? We had a lot of arrogant BN people as MB, ministers, even PM in the past.
I believe our beloved and respected Sultan of Perak wanted a good leader for the state and strike a balance in the state government. I fully trust the wisdom of the Sultan.
So, take back your moronic statement and reaction, for the sake of the country, if you really care about it.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 34.11
Uncle Lim, can the decision be changed?
if YES, then i fully support you on your decision but things should be carried out in a different manner together with PKR.
if NO, then i think we need to think positive and to carry on with the decision.
Its not really nice for not attending the swearing ceremony irregardless of whast had happened.
No matter what happened, you will always be my number 1 choice. Always remember that others are watching……..GO GO GO
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 34.45
Already its PKR, PKR, PKR. And Anwar, Anwar, Anwar. In fact the man is already speaking on behalf of the 5 Opposition states.
See: http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2BNews/Asia/STIStory_215655.html?vgnmr=1
So why are you being difficult? Don’t you know the DAP and yourself have been downgraded if not made redundant?
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 35.06
Also, about credibility.
A few weeks ago only, when Badawi declared not to dissolve parliament within the CNY, only to reverse his own decision within 24 hours, what a heap of shame was poured over him. What a bunch of nice and thoughtful expressions did we have for him!
It makes me wonder if DAP has taken the proper idol to follow in this case, here and today.
Please, please, consider and if necessary reconsider the decision. Badawi’s steadfastness does not need any imitation.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 35.32
I don’t believ a PAS MB would be worse than a BN MP. Also, in a coalition government where PAS has only 6 seats, it will have to consult with DAP and PKR. Nizar has already stated that this not a PAS government but a coalition government and that all decisions will be made collectively. He has kept calm in responding to your aggresive statement and has gained my respect by doing this.
BTW, I’m a Christian and have no problem with a PAS MB. Please withdraw the CEC statement.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 36.50
THE “SOKONG DAP” and BARISAN RAKYAT BANNER IN MY BLOG WILL BE REMOVED UNTIL THE DAP DEMONSTRATES A MORE COMPROMISING AND COOPERATIVE ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE PERAK STATE GOVERNMENT.
http://unwantedcitizen.blogspot.com/2008/03/warkah-untuk-barisan-rakyat.html
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 36.56
Shame on you Kit. I though you are Malaysian leader. But you are just another selfish fellow. Shame no you.
Who else do you want for Perak MB. See Malay with english and mandarin speaking fellow.
Bernama melaporkan, Mohammad Nizar yang menang kerusi Dun Pasir Panjang pada pilihan raya Sabtu lepas merupakan seorang jurutera perunding lulusan Aston University of Science & Technology di Birmingham, England.
Setiausaha Badan Perhubungan PAS Perak itu menyertai parti tersebut pada 1995 dan bertanding kali pertama bagi merebut kerusi Parlimen Kuala Kangsar pada pilihan raya umum 2004 tetapi tewas kepada penyandangnya Datuk Seri Rafidah Aziz.
Menteri Besar Perak yang baru ini memulakan persekolahan di Sekolah Rendah Anglo-Chinese School(ACS) Kampar sebelum meneruskan pendidikan menengah di Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Anglo-Chinese School Kampar dan Sekolah Menengah Teknik Ipoh dan menyambung pengajian peringkat A-Level dan ijazah di England.
Beliau memulakan kerjayanya di Jabatan Kerja Raya (JKR) sebelum berkhidmat sebagai jurutera di Perbadanan Pembangunan Bandar (UDA) dan Perbadanan Pembangunan Pulau Pinang PDC).
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 37.48
Limkamput,
I beg to differ. Do you remember in Penang during the previous election when Gerakan only won 8 seats whereas UMNO won 12?They wanted to take the M.B post by virtue of their majority.But it was not given to them because if you add MCA and DAP the chinese outnumbered the 12UMNO DUNs. By that reasoning if UMNO were to insist on taking the Chief Minister Post the next election DAP will probably win all the MCA and Gerakan seats so that they can have a chinese chief Minister.Same as in Perak, PKR,PAS and UMNO has 7,6 and 28 DUNs in the state legislature, majority are malays.Now how long you think a chinese M.B will stay in that position?Worse case scenario is that members from PKR or PAS may cross over to B.N in order to have a malay M.B.Is that not possible?DAP should show magnanimty by giving the M.B post to PAS. That way at least the coalition will remain intact and prevent any crossing over.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 38.09
Calm down everyone. Please read Uncle Lim statement again. He never ever said he wont support a Malay MB. In fact he said he supports PKR Malay assemblyman as the MB.
Perak DAP chairman Ngeh Khoo Nam and Ngo Kor Min also said they respect the Sultan’s decision.
Please attend the ceremony and work together for the benefits of Perak people though i hope.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 39.26
Dear Assemblyman,
who cares about the CEC’s mandate ?
It’s the people’s mandate that you should care.
It’s the people’s welfare, that you should care.
please reTHINK about your actions, you will live to regret it.
what is the ?????.
Sultans has his reasons.
Just go lah, please don’t ?? our votes.
regards,
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 39.36
If Perak DAP leadership has screwed up CEC for not following their instruction, YB Lim ket accepts your own mistake.
Don’t crying like a 3-year baby for your internal problem.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 39.46
Before we attack YB Lim any further, suggest we take a step back and ask some questions:
1) Why is PKR’s Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi not selected as the new Perak MB? It is so obvious and logical to everyone that he would be the best compromise candidate for all parties.
2) We asume that the Sultan or Regent of Perak are wise men. Is this assumption true? Have they been influenced by external forces? Could it be sabotage by BN?
I am sure that there are many things that we are not privy to. Perhaps, the Sultan or Regent of Perak, through their spokesperson, can tell us why they choose PAS instead of PKR. It will go a long way to prevent any misunderstanding between the different races in Malaysia.
Having said the above, I strongly feel that DAP should not boycott today’s ceremony. If things do not work out with PAS, you can still make changes at the later date because the majority of Perakians (read: People) supported DAP.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 40.25
written by The dragonheart, March 13, 2008 | 00:29:23
You can curse PAS but not DYMM PADUKA SERI SULTAN PERAK…
To the Malays, this is what we call biadap and kurang ajar
As I wrote above PKR/PAS/DAP won because we had a one-to-one battle against BN. we worked this success together.
If there is no Barisan Rakyat coalition, I don’t think any party could beat BN!!! It is because only one party contested against BN and therefore we won. DAP did not win single handedly. DAP should thanked PKR and PAS too.
Perak constitution stipulated that the MB MUST be a MUSLIM.
DAP claimed that they are not single race party but why majority of its top ranking are Chinese? should DAP have a Malay or a Chinese Muslim, they could be the MB.
If DAP do not understand how to be a team player, then from the very beginning tell us so. I am a strong PAS supporter but I vote for DAP because I believe we are in the same team.
My dear LKS, I don’t mind if the statements above were made by UMNO,MCA,MIC or GERAKAN… but when it comes from you, I am very disappointed.
We want change but we also must use our 2 sen brain that we cannot change the paradigm of the people just overnight. People take time to change. and it took years for RPK to convince the people in M-T that it is ok to vote for PAS or DAP.
And now suddenly you forgot the you won because PAS and PKR and fence sitters and frustrated BN people voted for you… and you thought you win all by yourself!! This is what I meant by greed…
If you want to form a government in Malaysia learn to respect the Malay Rulers… If you do not know the protocol you better start learning now… The Malay Rulers are the Umbrella to the Malays and the religion of Islam and I am positively sure, the Malays (does not matter what party he may come from) will defend their Sultans maybe even with their live if people like you starts to be KURANG AJAR and BIADAP!
I am sound hard here but I am saying it sincerely, so beware and use your head not just your feel…
I still hope this BR thingy still works, if not the Malays should either go to PKR or PAS, and leave DAP alone.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 40.40
I thought after this election, we would let go off:
-Cold-hearted politics where only the numbers matter and the words of the law. When the Hindu temples were demolished, it was because the authorities observed the law without taking into account the wider context of how long they’ve been there and the significance of the structure itself.
-The lack of checks and balances and overt Executive power. I thought DAP Perak would’ve been smart enough to use its ability as a check against the MB’s executive power and thus moderate his policies and increase trust between the communities.
Today, DAP has destroyed my hopes.
The beginnings of a two-party system? Not after this. It’s gonna take a long while if DAP does not come to its senses.
DAP thought that all votes it got was because of DAP. It forgot that our First-Past-The-Post system meant that wasn’t true.
Remember, not all votes the new ADUNs of Perak got was explicitly for a DAP or PKR MB. You can’t claim a larger number of ADUNs as a direct endorsement of any one single chief Exec.
Many people say that this appointment was also due to race and religious preferences. Now, how do you go about proving that?
cheers
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 40.58
Uncle Kit,
Please take a look at your blog comments. So many concerned supporters are voicing out. We are supposed to go to sleep as we have to work tomorrow. I am trying to register to put a comment and I had to wait so long as the blogsite is so congested!!! This shows how much concerned we are with this one decision of yours!
Your decision for today can affect millions of Malaysians for the next coming years!!! Please make decision with the rakyat in your mind.
Please give us a reasonable justifications as to why DAP cannot accept a PAS Menteri Besar. Please do not just quote the reason “unhappiness”. This is really sad and bad. I cannot imagine that our happiness is short-lived.
What’s the use of boycotting? If you boycott tomorrow’s swearing-in session, what about the future state exco meetings, future development issues, future of many millions of hopes put on your shoulder, are you going to boycott us too???
I almost packed my bag already trying to look for greener pasture but because of this incredible result from the GE, I am holding on. Please do not disappoint us. You are now carrying millions of hopes and you can either destroy them just like that or continue to keep these hopes burning alive.
Sleepness tonight.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 41.00
Sir,
HELLOOOOO WHAT IS GOING ON HERE??? Did we not hear the message to vote for PKR, DAP or PAS? This we did in our response to ALL of you. Should you not walk the talk? I am very disappointed to your reaction – totally out of line. The folks who are still demanding for the seat to be DAP’s etc… when are you going to wake up? Dont you get it? We are trying to get to the finish line with the mulit racial approach. By boycotting and all that, you will only give the BN media a field day, upset people who believed in you and turn the cake which was so hard to bake completely upside down. We are supposedly politically matured, so act like it. THANK YOU!!!
JK
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 42.35
An ideal solution would be appointing Mr. Kula Segaran as the MB, as this would fulfill the aspiration of the marginalised
Indian community. He has manifested his strong leadership with gusto and credibility for the good of all Malaysian.
He will also represent the rightful candidate who should come from the party with the most number of elected DUN.
It is also ripe time for the Opposition Front to walk the talk, to manifest that meritocracy should blurred the boundary of racial divides.
More importantly they must show BN that they are able to
work together cohesively in unison for the good of the Perakian, irrespectively of the colour of the skin of their leaders. The Bangsa Malaysia dream should be given this golden opportunity to germinate after 50 yrs.
I trust the Honourable Sultan, who is extremely learned in the constitution, will exercise his wisdom provided in the constitution to exempt himself the need to appoint a Malay MB.
As a head of state respected highly for his democratic and impartial principles, we hope the Honourable Sultan would
decide on a candidate acceptable to all parties, not limiting himself to the constraints of the constitution.
PKR and PAS, as the minorities in the coalition government, should first respect the wishes and decision of the Rakyat.
They have decisively elected for the leader to be from the party which won the most DUN, nevertheless the merits have to go to PKR and PAS.
Any possibility of a minute conflict and disunity among the Oppositon Front should not be allowed to emerge, as the bigger objective of the next GE of taking over the whole government of the country is yet to be realised.
We hope to see an amicable solution soon.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 43.51
I do not understand why DAP need to boycott the swearing ceremony.
If DAP do not agree with PAS candidate why don’t say it up front early?
If DAP do not agree with PAS candidate as MB, then DAP should withdraw from coalition. Would you be happy to see BN to take over MB post?
This is a starting point, if you can’t work together and show the support, how is DAP going to work together with the coalition for the next 5 years?
Penang BN ADUN look childish for not attending DAP CM sworn, it also look foolish that DAP boycott N.Sembilan MB sworn in. But don’t boycott in Perak that is you own coalition and your comrade. So if you boycott PAS MB, then are you going to reject a appointing a DAP deputy MB as well?
Please put down what ever personnel reason behind and show support.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 44.25
DAP – you gave your word that you will abide by the Sultan’s decision. Now the whole of Malaysia will say your word means shit! Don’t let that happen!!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 45.43
Why can’t you just let PAS have the MB’s post while the DAP and PKR share the other 9 seats? He’ll then be the lone ranger. What’s the problem?
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 46.36
I am a Malaysian Chinese residing in Petaling Jaya and had voted for your party’s candidates in the 12th GE.
I had attended practically all your party’s ceramahs in the PJU and nearby areas. In the ceramahs, your speakers had continuously stressed the importance of a multiracial government that takes care of its rakyat regardless of status, race and religion.
It is therefore a great shock and disappointment to hear that the DAP is calling its Perak state assemblymen to boycott the swearing-in ceremony of the new Perak MB tomorrow just because the MB is from PAS. I feel very much let down by this decision.
Firstly, your party calls for the establishment of a Malaysian Malaysia. Isn’t PAS part of Malaysian Malaysia. Or are you telling us now that just because they are from PAS, they are not? Then in the first place, you should not have ask the voters, especially your supporters, to vote for the ‘Bulan’ knowing fully well it is referring to PAS. If you can ask voters, especially your supporters, to vote for PAS, then why can’t your party now accept a PAS assemblyman to head the state government. I was led to believe that as long as a person is qualified, he will be supported. As many speakers said in your ceramahs, ‘It doesn’t matter whether it is a white cat or a black cat, as long as it is able to catch rat, it is a good cat.’ Doesn’t the same argument holds, whether the MB is from PAS, DAP or PKR, as long as he is able to look after the welfare of the rakyat, then he is a good MB.
Secondly, if a candidate from PAS cannot be accepted by the DAP, then why in the first place you decide to set up a coalition government with them? The argument that you can cooperate with the six PAS assemblymen and yet can’t accept a PAS member as the Perak MB does not hold water. Are you trying to fool us just like what the BN government had done over the last 50 years? Don’t think that the public is stupid. How can we, the rakyat, trust you now when even before the state government is set up, you are already fighting among yourselves in the so-called ‘Barisan Rakyat’ coalition.
Thirdly, your party’s Perak state chairman Mr Ngeh Koo Ham had repeatedly said that DAP, PKR and PAS will abide by any decision made by the Sultan on the Perak MB. Now that a decision had been reached, you are going back on your words. As I recall from one of the speeches by Mr Gobind Singh Deo in SS2 on March 7 in which he said, “A politician must be responsible for what he said. After making a statement, he cannot then said that he is saying things in a sarcastic manner etc so as to deny his earlier statement.” Mr Gobind Singh said this when commenting on Tun Mahathir’s statement that when he said Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim was innocent, he was being sarcastic about it. The same standard should then be applied to all DAP party leaders and speakers. You must be responsible and accountable for what you say. When you said that you will accept the decision made by the Sultan, then you must stand by what you had said. Going back on your words now can only show that the BN is right and that your party leaders, especially Mr Lim Kit Siang, is only going after personal glory/power without any regard to the well-being of the rakyat and the party. DAP would then be just a party that is “cakap tak serupa bikin”.
Fourthly, your party has not come out with any reason for the rejection of the PAS assemblyman as the Perak MB. I, as a voter that voted for your party, demand to know the reason behind this decision. Your party had always stressed the importance of accountability and transparency in your election manifesto. Now, please ‘walk the talk’ by also being transparent and explain your decision to the public. Anything less would make you no better than the BN government which 50% of the peninsula rakyat had just rejected. Anything less would also guarantee that the rakyat would make their voices heard again in the next general election, voting against the DAP.
There are many more reasons for my feeling of utter disgust and consternation for this decision made by your party’s CEC. However, I will keep them to myself at this moment.
On the morning of March 9, 2008, I truly believe that a new era has dawned on Malaysia as we are finally able to transcend race and religion in our efforts to make Malaysia the truly great country that she should be. A truly Malaysian Malaysia. Sadly, just three days later, that new era does not even have a chance to begin as the group of leaders that are supposed to lead us there are now fighting among themselves for whatever reasons best known to them.
How can we move forward as a nation when we have leaders that are so selfish, egocentric and who don’t practice what they preached? Is our country forever going to be mired in mediocrity amidst a culture of intolerance, suspicion, fear, corruption and cronyism?
I sincerely thought that DAP is part of the future and a cure of our country’s ills. However, this decision by your CEC had shown that DAP is a party of the past. It is already blinded by its election success and is no longer in touch with the aspirations of the rakyat to build a nation based on trust, integrity, tolerance, responsibility and accountability, regardless of status, race and religion. You had forgotten that the rakyat is the boss that voted for you and put you there to serve us. You had betrayed your voters and had rejected the rakyat’s wish to move forward to form a Malaysian Malaysia.
I rest my case.
By Teh Seng Hin
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 48.20
The opposition coalition was voted in because we taught that all of you have a common ground to agree on. Regardless that DAP don’t want to work with PAS, but the fact that DAP work with PKR and PKR work closely with PAS means that DAP can tolerate PAS. And similarly, PAS tolerate DAP. PEople see PKR as the bridge in the coalition. And anwar’s appearance convinced us that this can work. At 12GE, no coalition partners can claim exclusive success. You have to work together because that was your selling point.
DAP is successfull in Perak because of the support of malay muslims as well and they support DAP not because any of its ideals and the long-perceived image of being anti malay and anti muslim, but because they are better option than the BN and can find common ground with coalition members.
Pls LKS don’t be so drunken with your success in Perak because this first mandate is just a litmus test to your trustworthiness as a multiracial party of a plural society amid the fact that malays are majority. Pls look beyond this 5 year period. There are many more years with promising future if you take care of this one well.
If your son can prove in penang that malays are not left behind in the island state, i believe that one day a chinese or indian can be MB anywhere in the country. But pls take the opportunity to prove your worth first. You may not live to see this but the time will come. The malays as the majority in other states have never had chinese MBs before except penang so it’s easy to accept the fact that LGE is there. But for other states? not yet. For chinese and indians, they are used to malay MBs. Excel in penang first, please.
LKS, I am beginning to like you despite your arrogance and greediness. You want everything but not wanting to give any.
Anyway, damage had already been done. Regardless if tomorrow DAP still turned up during swearing-in, your statement has herded malays away from DAP. DAP is already doomed and it will forever be irrelevant to Malaysia particularly to malays.
Of course unless DAP remove LKS.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 49.05
If DAP prides itself on standing by its principles, than this is not the way to show it.
They should uphold the principles of Parliamentary checks and balances, of collective cabinet decisions regardless of who becomes MB.
If this is a principled move, then DAP should just pull out of the coalition.
Its move to boycott the swearing in is a blatant attempt and pleasing the Chinese Ultra vote yet at the same time it’s willing to stay in power with PAS. Where are the principles in that?
cheers
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 50.30
Shame on you Kit. Shame on You. Please see how open PAS is. State in your blog:
http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/01/07/najib-you-are-wrong/
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 51.13
obviously its not a matter of race, but is it a matter of religion? if that was what transpired in the CEC meeting, i feel like SLAPPING the OLD COOT who brought it up. i know there are some christians in DAP and if those christians caused this I REALLY want to slap them, please leave religion out of this, im chinese atheist and i dont care if the MB is PAS, so long he can do his job! BODOH!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 51.41
I hope YB can update this page soon and gv us the good news.
But at the back of my mind I believe this is just a ploy to show the malays that DAP has sacrificed alot for the good of the country come tomorrow when LKS announces that they will be attending the swearing in ceremony. By doing so DAP would have sealed the malay votes in the future.
But for now it will only be in my dreams.
Will be watching this site closely for any updates.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 52.41
despin,
Don’t be silly, the most is 30% Chinese are hardcore DAP supporters. People like me called fence-sitters are at another 30-35%.
DAP can be a mosquito party like PPP if you think Chinese voters will keep you alive.
BN will take back all states when people hated BN vote according their own party as before.
This big win makes DAP men a big head donkey especially junior and senior Lim.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 54.07
Uncle Lim and fellow assemblymen
I am so so Disappointed with you,
I heard you speak before, i know this is not you.
i know you are a solution oriented person.
THIS will go a long WAY.
the rakyat wished to give the coalition the federal government, in the coming election.
Proof to us that this work, proof to us that we don’t need them.
you can do this. Just imagine if win deferal goverment liao what will happen, sure make noise summore.
PLEAASEEEEE look forward !!!!!! THIS will go alooong way.
please Just go lah, please don’t waste our efforts and trust on you.
we will always stand behind you,
malaysia citizen
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 54.43
I voted DAP for change not to DAP for such a boycott. We have to admit the fact that things will change and we are in the right path. We need malaysian from all walk to support and be a real multi-racial and multi religious party. If we show some compromise on this issue, DAP supporters will give praise and at the same time we show that we are more mature than others. Ask for more respresentive in the state to refrain PAS to extend unfavourable practices to Perak. In time to come I am sure PAS will learnt how to position themself amoung multi-religions. Look towards to the big picture. Even muslim will appreciate our tolerence.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 54.44
I am adding to the hundreds of protest. It is a stupid statement, it is bad taste and just so damaging. What a start to governing. Talk about the arrogance of the BN. It is sheer bad timing. Do you really expect this coalition government can survive if it is already starting on a bad footing? I think it is fair that the Sultan picked one of the three names; the situation is delicate, the coalition is tenuous and you have a condition that is potentially divisive, ethnically. I think the Sultan has picked on the right choice. Why so impatient? I thought the DAP would believe in collective governing — so what if the MB is from a minority party? Once you agree to be in the coalition –just pick the right man, or woman regardless of race to lead. Isn’t that what the DAP believes in? Do you mean to say that the thousands of multiracial voters didn’t know that they were voting in a Chinese chauvinist party? Do not underestimate that such stupid gesture (disrespectful of the Sultan for eg) can prick many sensitivities in ways that the DAP will not want to be responsible for. For goodness sake, withdraw the statement and be gracious enough to attend the swearing-in ceremony tomorrow!!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 54.46
Sheesh… can people actually read or is this a result of a BN run education system? Please note.. the DAP is not against a Malay MB. The DAP IS NOT AGAINST A MALAY MB! HELLO?! THE DAP IS NOT AGAINST A MALAY MB! SO STOP SAYING THAT IT IS!
SECONDLY!! STAYING AWAY FROM THE CEREMONY IS A RESULT OF THE CEC NOT RECOGNISING A PAS MB! DECISIONS CAN BE CHANGED! DECISIONS CAN BE CHANGED!
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 56.00
Hi YB,
Disappointed that DAP still engage in these type of posturing. Has all our hopes over the last few days come to this?
My family and I have supported DAP all this while, maybe we were wrong?
We understand the constraints in Perak. DAP will have a majority in the State EXCO somewhat reflecting the number of seats won, No?
Please retract the statement.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 56.30
Why are we giving the BN opportunities to hit us back? This is ridiculous. After all the hard work, why must let this happen? We have been living in this situation for the past 50 years. It takes time to change. We have to do it slowly and steadily. There should be no rush. Why the sudden rush for positions the very thing we kept condemning the BN. We don’t care which party gets the MB post, all we want is a fair and responsible govt that takes care of the need of all its people irrespective of race.
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 56.44
smeagroo, nice dream. HAHAHAHA! Could be true but we’ll never know …
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 57.15
I am already disapointed with BA already. All politicians are the same actually. All wanted to be the BOSS only…..
March 13th, 2008 at 00: 57.34
boycot!!?y put ur self like BN in Penang and Trengganu…??
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 00.39
DAP and PKR should do a great job and prove to the people in the next 4 – 5 years. So that they may kick PAS out during the coming election.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 01.42
Dear YB
We agree with your argument for a PKR MB as alternative due to the state requirement (which is racist in nature). But decision has been made by the state Ruler based on 3 choices presented. Respect the Ruler’s decision.
We all agree that the dramatic shift in power caught everyone unprepared. Malaysians have spoken and voted in Barisan Rakyat because of the united cooperation of DAP/PKR/PAS. The cooperation should continue as this is good for the nation.
DAP is a multi-race party and would remain so. Moving forward we should have programmes to attract more Malaysians of Malay origin to join the party. Of course, they must subscribe to the Malaysian for Malaysia concept. Only then we can be unshakeable. We cannot remain to ride on the non-malays sentiment.
When majority Malaysians’ and the Rulers’ mindset has changed, then we wouldn’t face such an awkward situation.
We hope that YB (with unanimous concurrence from CEC) would release another press statement, making good the situation (earlier press release).
Do the right thing for Malaysia.
I remain DAP loyalist forever and remain YB supporter for now… unless.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 02.38
going to sleep soon.. hope uncle kit don’t dissapoint us.. don’t destroy all the hardwork and success we had achieve…
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 03.24
[...] saying this in response to Lim Kit Siang post titled No DAP CEC Mandate for Pas Menteri Besar in Perak, where he called for Perak DAP to boycott the swearing in ceremony of new Perak MB, Nizar Jamaludin [...]
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 04.06
There must and should be a meaningful statement coming from PKR advisor Anwar Ibrahim with regards to this matter.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 04.24
Now Utusan Online and Star Online already championing the issue. By tomorrow morning, the BA coalition will be the laughing stock…
OMG…just 4 days after the election out of 5 years (1 term)…..premature ejaculation!!!
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 06.15
Leaving issues of race and religion aside, lets look at it from the party’s unity point of view. Boycotting the event only shows the lack of unity in the new administration. It will shake the people’s confidence as power struggle and conflict has already occurred even before the state gov. is formed. How are they going to govern Perak effectively for the next 4yrs I wonder. Hopefully, Mr LKS will make a wise decision.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 07.18
Yea but during Ceramah we were told that WE ARE THE BOSS.
Looks like there are many hierarchies to BOSS.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 08.04
Umno used to win more seats in Penang yet it handed over the CM seat to Gerakan. Why not DAP follow that example of “sacrifice” and let PAS be the MB for Perak. I am sure Sultan Azlan have considered all aspects. This is Malaysia, not Singapore or HK or Taiwan!
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 09.34
We should respect Sultan decision and if Nizar is not from PAS I believe that no one will reject him to be the MB.
He has the educational qualification for this post. He master well not only in Bahasa Melayu. And the most importantly He is humble enough and he understand clearly about our worry on PAS.
Now still some of us are rejecting him. Rejecting just because of he is from PAS. Yet we are showing that we are still unable to at least show our respect to Muslim. What a sad case?
Its hard to find any other extrodinary person in PAS just like Nizar, who care about non-muslim and voiced out our worry, yet given assurance that Perak will never turn to a PAS-state.
He has the very qualification and he did try his best to ask for acceptance. Why we are still reject him just because of he is from PAS?
We cant expect other to respect us if we dun willing to respect them at the 1st place. Change we had voted it out, and we need all leaders to change his mind. Never-ever reject or support just because of races and religions, but not qualification..
This is not fair at all at least to Nizar. He try so hard to give away assurance to us as non-Muslim. Still we never give him even 1 chance.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 09.47
From one Lim (me) to an older and wiser Lim:
DAP does not have to dominate (even if it may have the right to) and I’m sure there are other means to strike a balance in the power-sharing entity. The MB would have:
1) symbolic powers (so be it; afterall Perak is still a Malay-majority state)
2) exco powers (this is where the balancing act is critical and a majority DAP-populated exco should ensure some checks-and-balances to decision-making)
There are a lot of good points raised by some of your supporters here. I was even going to suggest a rotation scheme PAS-DAP-PKR over the term but that may not be effective and may pose some practical challenges.
Do the right thing. I’m confident you will.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 09.55
What is the principle of DAP? To make sure a Chinese to be Menteri Besar?
Go back to read DAP’s party article, DAP is a multi-racial party. Why there was no a single Malay candidate in the DAP team?
If you got Malay DAP assemblyman, the mentri besar post sure go to DAP.
DAP is dream of forming any state government without the support of fence sitting Chinese, Malays and Indians.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 10.06
Someone from DAP please read this… the 12 GE success belongs to us, the people of Malaysia, not DAP. So get off your high horse and learn to work with PKR and PAS.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 10.39
DAP LEADERS, DYMM Sultan is thinking ahead for picking PAS MB, for our sake, your sake and the nations sake.
DAP MB is out of the question.
DYMM chose PAS instead of PKR, it takes guts and foresight to do that. Figure it out.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 10.58
I wont be voting for DAP anymore after this if they cant even do the right thing.
POWER corrupts. Power also makes one do silly things.
Maybe Uncle needs POwer Root.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 11.23
Really has nothing to say….. as the dawn has just begun ….and hope that sunset….not coming….
my hope to Barisan Rakyat…still there…….
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 11.25
btw DAP is not in the opposition now (at least at state level) and all elected ADUN should focus on gaining experience jointly administering the state of Perak with other coalition members.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 12.28
Dear uncle lim
We didn’t vote BA in so that UMNO can make a mockery of you, because ultimately it reflects badly on the electorates’ choice made last Saturday.
There’s something you probably don’t realise. We anak Perak love and revere our Sultan. He’s very close to our hearts. Also it’s unlikely that he’s being influenced by BN. He must have valid reasons for choosing the PAS candidate. We will honour his decision.
Pls don’t boycott the ceremony. Thanks
=ipohmali=
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 12.38
sudah la bro… u faham ka apa maksud hilang kepercayaan? bukan senang bro mau lihat malay vote 4 DAP.. kami pangkah ikhlas dgn harapan DAP bekerjasama dgn PKR n PAS membentuk krjn yg baik..
DAP members plz do something.. lim kit siang..u also should do something..
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 13.37
1. Everybody be calm. Don’t panic because of one blog post.
LKS is not Mahathir. We have to allow some working/sparring space to figure out the political relationships among partners. Even husband & wife will have differing opinions and behaviors.
What is important is we are moving towards a Malaysia for all Malaysian, as demonstrated by many of the mature posters here and their moderate opinions. Give some credit to LKS/CEC that they will decide the most appropriate action, considering the complex circumstances.
For those are expecting a perfect world after March08, you could be too naive/idealistic. Be patient & we shall be rewarded.
2. Beware of agent provocateurs & suspicious posts stirring up racial/emotional subjects similar to those from the posters below.
*ADAM YONG IBNI ABDULLAH
*malaysiatoday.com
*ncysan
*mateRealWorld
*cmbss
*alaneth
*fifthbullet
*Anyone of them could be a sweaty, bald, fat, greasy faceless BN agent behind a computer. No offense to the genuine sweaty, bald, fat, greasy Malaysians who voted for change.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 14.01
YB LKS: I am chinese ethnic. But I would like to tell people I am Malaysian when I am abroad. What is happening is not healthy after a good & hopeful start. DAP is sounding like UMNO-BN already. The boycott of new Perak-MB being from PAS is exactly what they were waiting for. It will be painted all over the media tomorrow. Pls do not act in such impulsion. You have already achieved no other politician in Malaysia, as far as I know, have achieved in the 12th GE. Not asking you to backdown or be ’soft’…but show some goodwill (money cannot buy one you know)…this will only make DAP even more stronger into the next GE. Otherwise, it will only last until then. PLEASE the majority that voted DAP. Were the majority Chinese? The majority were ALL the Perak people. I think the tsunami also washed away the level thinking…give the new MB a CHANCE. You asked for CHANGE, the voters gave you. Don’t betray the voters. It may take forever to gain the trust again. Don’t waste the 50 years. Respect the Sultan’s decision. Going against the Sultan’s decision is a BIG NO-NO & big mistake that will cost DAP dearly into the next GE. I believe there is already a compromise that there will be more state exco in Perak…what’s wrong with that? What’s so great about the CM post? Is DAP going to tell the whole Malaysia that it is a power-crazy party? Tell the people of Perak to give PAS CM a chance. The PAS CM can’t have absolute power right? The PAS CM still have to report to Tok Guru & going against the PAS CM is as well as going against the Tok Guru. This would not be an issue if PAS decide to divorce…then Perak will go back to BN hands. Who will have the last laugh? We may not know the whole story of your decision but pls think over it again & consider a bigger picture here for DAP, for the Rakyat. Show the goodwill. It will be worth more than just the CM post of one state.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 15.12
DAP should be grateful that the Perak Sultan agreed to appoint a non malay Deputy menteri besar. In Selangor, the appointmnet of a non malay deputy Menteri besar was rejected. DAP should be grateful with this small mercies given by the Perak sultan.He is one ruler who command the respect of all Malaysians.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 15.49
This particular Royal knows what he is doing in this particular circumstance (im sure u have figured it out by now), so hope to see you attend the ceremony tmrw pls.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 16.16
Asking why PAS not PKR just a metter to creat the differences in the Barisan Rakyat. PKR/PAS/DAP should work collectively.
PAS candidaten was chosen by the most wise sultan. The Sultan must have good reason for this.
Academic wise, Nizar is an engineer, studied in chinese school from primary to MCE level. Then going to England for Engineering. Got IR. Is that part of your meritocrasi?
Having said that, the dicision is made by the sultan for the seek of the state.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 16.33
Well, some said it’s just a sandiwara; in Cantonese “choe hei”. I really hope it is. Otherwise, it would be very disappointing for us rakyat who VOTED FOR CHANGE in the 12th GE.
I understand that it’s no easy solution but we have to keep to our course and promises. I believe we Malaysians (Malaysian Malays, Malaysian Chinese, Malaysian Indians) have learnt to ‘accept’ PAS as one of the Barisan Rakyat members. We have no problem voting for them during the last election.
Let’s work together for a better Malaysia. I thought I saw a light in the tunnel on the 9th March 2008, but when this news come about, the light starts to get dimmer. Remember, you’ve been given an opportunity by the rakyat, so don’t let us down.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 16.40
Dear YB LKS,
If you posted this blog to gauge people’s response, pls note that we non muslims in Perak or originally from Perak (im an Indian originally from Perak and residing in Penang now, with parents still in Ipoh), have no qualm on having a Pas chief minister in Perak. As mentioned earlier pls live up to the statements made prior to the audience with Raja Nazrin on respecting his decision on choice of MB, otherwise why in god’s name did you guys submit 3 names plus come out with statement that the choice of MB is irrelevant, since DAP still has a mojority of exco seats. Pls dont boycott the swearing in ceremony, it really sounds childish and irresponsible coming from a matured politician like you
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 17.45
limkamput,
I believe there had been attempts to impersonate you on BakriMusa and DinMerican blogs. Check it out.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 18.27
When majority Malaysians’ and the Rulers’ mindset has changed, then we wouldn’t face such an awkward situation.
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Agree, sultan selangor’s private secreatry said even deputy CM must be a Muslim Malay. His reasoning is DCM may have go to open mosque.
There are many old donkeys still living in this country.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 19.19
Its sad indeed to see how so many LKS supporters so QUICKLY come in with all sorts of negative personal attack (Rocky’s blog).
I hope all of us can appreciate & understand how tired & energy drained is Uncle Lim by now having just gone through all the punishing campaigns & doubly more punishing meetings after the election. In our runners’ analogy, its like running another higher quality Full marathon immediately after having finished one and all that at the age of 60 plus!
It is at such a time such a person may not be able to think at his best. It is at such a time like this that we the Malaysians should gather around him & encourage him & gently put in our other opinion & better advise.
Lets not come down so hard on LKS please. He is but a man like you & me. Wanna join me for a full marathon?
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 20.13
PLS don’t let PERAK turn into an Islamic State like Kedah now. All the Agama Law will apply to the state then the state will die very fast without any development.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 20.17
I think the Perak and Selangor State Constitution needs looking into and changed where necessary. This is year 2008 not 1957.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 20.24
Dear fellow netizens,
It surely had been a very, very hectic time for ALL of US…the candidates of the just concluded elections and fellow supporters. And not to mention the dizzying and totally out-of-expection results.
Winning an election is all about getting ready to serve the rakyat. Isn’t that the number one priority?? BN had been denied 2/3 majority..mission one accomplished. The rakyats are happy..you just have to go around ..people all over our beloved country are happy with the better-than-expected outcome. Look at it..our Mr Lim Guan Eng is already in the thick of things in Penang..serving the rakyat and informing them about events and affairs which concern them most…Congrats..
Now coming to Perak.
I have a few word for our beloved Raja Dr Nazrin Shah.
Dear Raja NAzrin.
I am a great admirer of your goodself and for that reason I tried to read whatever you wrote in the media and followed your speeches whenever possible. You have indeed been a beacon in our homeland. When Raja Nazrin speaks, everyone will take heed because of your impartiality and learned approach toward issues. And you dare to speak your mind and beg to differ whenever an alternative voice is needed.
When there were misinterpretation of the Constitution or any issues that affect national interest you gave your piece of mind to put matter back into the proper perspective. Your wisdom and sound judgement help to reassure fellow malaysians.
From your speeches and writings you very often touch on economic and social justice, civil society. nation building, and religious issues. You did mention the importance of having leaders who are earnest in maintaining unity and never resorting to religious or ethnic posturing to further their political careers at the expense of peace and unity. I salute you for making this statement while addressing the first student leaders summit sometime last year. That would mould not only our aspiring leaders but also serve notice to all present leaders about the preferred stance that they have to take in order to better serve the rakyat.
Back to the just concluded General Elections.
Definitely the outcome took everyone by surprise, and I think even your goodself. The fact that three political parties combined won the majority of seats in the Perak State ( coincidently my home state) election present a somewhat challenging situation, especially when ethnicity and religious issues arose. The decision to choose the Menteri Besar would have been straight forward if only one particular race is involved.
There may be particular clauses in the Perak constitution which are to be considered in making the decision. But then you also have the authority to take exception to the rules.
We are a democratic nation and the whole electoral process attest to that. All of us know that in our political system, majority rules. This fact had been emphasised and reemphasised in various fora, and had been accepted by all. Even this had been inked in our constitution, which we hold to be supreme.
The ethnicity and religious backgroud of a person should not stand in the way when he is being considered for the Menteri Besar post. You are selecting an executive and not a religious officer. In this respect the fact of the matter has to prevail, that is the candidate who had received the most number of votes would
be chosen, bearing in mind that we are a democracy. Else the rakyat, whom we lead would lose confidence and would be further alienated.
The rakyat would lose faith and feel disillusioned. They would distance themselves in the future from taking part in the system which is supposed to protect and serve their interest. They may also lose respect for the royal entity which may be construed as not being supportive and partial.
We, the people of Perak do hold Your Highness in high esteem. We appeal to your wisdom in selecting the Menteri Besar. Our sincere wish is for you to give due consideration to the democratic process
which would be seen as the more acceptable route to take. And as you have said that the preferred approach is to adhere to the principles of the constitution to avoid any misunderstandings.
Thank you,
Yours Sincerely,
A Loyal Perakian and Malaysian
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 20.30
When I read about your statement in Malaysiakini, my heart sank. What now? You have come this far on this long journey of freeing Malaysia from the shackles of the racist BN. The job is not over, we have only given BN a hard knock. They will regroup and in fact the battle is only begining. We still have another four long years to battle and prove to the racist BN that DAP-PKR-PAS can do a better job. And you are about to shoot yourself & DAP and the other members of the so called Barisan Rakyat in the foot. Come on Kit Siang please walk the talk. Give and take lah. Not showing up tommorow will only give BN political capital, aside from losing goodwill with the most respected Royal Family on our nation. Please la.. rethink you decision and show up at the swearing in ceremony.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 20.41
An open letter to the DAP on Perak MB’s appointment
Posted by labisman
Thursday, 13 March 2008
I am a Malaysian Chinese residing in Petaling Jaya and had voted for your party’s candidates in the 12th GE.
I had attended practically all your party’s ceramahs in the PJU and nearby areas. In the ceramahs, your speakers had continuously stressed the importance of a multiracial government that takes care of its rakyat regardless of status, race and religion.
It is therefore a great shock and disappointment to hear that the DAP is calling its Perak state assemblymen to boycott the swearing-in ceremony of the new Perak MB tomorrow just because the MB is from PAS. I feel very much let down by this decision.
Firstly, your party calls for the establishment of a Malaysian Malaysia. Isn’t PAS part of Malaysian Malaysia. Or are you telling us now that just because they are from PAS, they are not? Then in the first place, you should not have ask the voters, especially your supporters, to vote for the ‘Bulan’ knowing fully well it is referring to PAS. If you can ask voters, especially your supporters, to vote for PAS, then why can’t your party now accept a PAS assemblyman to head the state government. I was led to believe that as long as a person is qualified, he will be supported. As many speakers said in your ceramahs, ‘It doesn’t matter whether it is a white cat or a black cat, as long as it is able to catch rat, it is a good cat.’ Doesn’t the same argument holds, whether the MB is from PAS, DAP or PKR, as long as he is able to look after the welfare of the rakyat, then he is a good MB.
Secondly, if a candidate from PAS cannot be accepted by the DAP, then why in the first place you decide to set up a coalition government with them? The argument that you can cooperate with the six PAS assemblymen and yet can’t accept a PAS member as the Perak MB does not hold water. Are you trying to fool us just like what the BN government had done over the last 50 years? Don’t think that the public is stupid. How can we, the rakyat, trust you now when even before the state government is set up, you are already fighting among yourselves in the so-called ‘Barisan Rakyat’ coalition.
Thirdly, your party’s Perak state chairman Mr Ngeh Koo Ham had repeatedly said that DAP, PKR and PAS will abide by any decision made by the Sultan on the Perak MB. Now that a decision had been reached, you are going back on your words. As I recall from one of the speeches by Mr Gobind Singh Deo in SS2 on March 7 in which he said, “A politician must be responsible for what he said. After making a statement, he cannot then said that he is saying things in a sarcastic manner etc so as to deny his earlier statement.” Mr Gobind Singh said this when commenting on Tun Mahathir’s statement that when he said Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim was innocent, he was being sarcastic about it. The same standard should then be applied to all DAP party leaders and speakers. You must be responsible and accountable for what you say. When you said that you will accept the decision made by the Sultan, then you must stand by what you had said. Going back on your words now can only show that the BN is right and that your party leaders, especially Mr Lim Kit Siang, is only going after personal glory/power without any regard to the well-being of the rakyat and the party. DAP would then be just a party that is “cakap tak serupa bikin”.
Fourthly, your party has not come out with any reason for the rejection of the PAS assemblyman as the Perak MB. I, as a voter that voted for your party, demand to know the reason behind this decision. Your party had always stressed the importance of accountability and transparency in your election manifesto. Now, please ‘walk the talk’ by also being transparent and explain your decision to the public. Anything less would make you no better than the BN government which 50% of the peninsula rakyat had just rejected. Anything less would also guarantee that the rakyat would make their voices heard again in the next general election, voting against the DAP.
There are many more reasons for my feeling of utter disgust and consternation for this decision made by your party’s CEC. However, I will keep them to myself at this moment.
On the morning of March 9, 2008, I truly believe that a new era has dawned on Malaysia as we are finally able to transcend race and religion in our efforts to make Malaysia the truly great country that she should be. A truly Malaysian Malaysia. Sadly, just three days later, that new era does not even have a chance to begin as the group of leaders that are supposed to lead us there are now fighting among themselves for whatever reasons best known to them.
How can we move forward as a nation when we have leaders that are so selfish, egocentric and who don’t practice what they preached? Is our country forever going to be mired in mediocrity amidst a culture of intolerance, suspicion, fear, corruption and cronyism?
I sincerely thought that DAP is part of the future and a cure of our country’s ills. However, this decision by your CEC had shown that DAP is a party of the past. It is already blinded by its election success and is no longer in touch with the aspirations of the rakyat to build a nation based on trust, integrity, tolerance, responsibility and accountability, regardless of status, race and religion. You had forgotten that the rakyat is the boss that voted for you and put you there to serve us. You had betrayed your voters and had rejected the rakyat’s wish to move forward to form a Malaysian Malaysia.
I rest my case.
By Teh Seng Hin
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 20.55
Dear Fellow Malaysians
Allow me to clarify on this matter. At the DAP CEC meeting in Penang on Sunday March 9th 2008, the CEC has decided that my name be submitted as the DAP’s choice of candidate for the Menteri Besar post. In the event that my candidacy is rejected, the DAP is to endorse the PKR candidate. Upon my return to Ipoh, the Perak DAP leadership had a discussion with the PKR & PAS Perak leadership. After taking into account the views of PKR & PAS the three parties decided to submit the three names from the repective parties in accordance to the number of seats each party holds in Perak. My name was placed first on the list, followed by PKR candidate and PAS candidate. It was by consensus that whoever HRH Sultan of Perak chooses, the three parties will unanimously accept and support. Any misunderstanding arising from the LKS’s statement has now been clarified and resolved. The DAP elected representatives have now been instructed to attend the swearing in ceremony tomorrow.
I hope this issue will be put to rest.
Thank you.
Ngeh Koo Ham
DAP Perak Chairman
Beruas MP
Sitiawan State Assemblyman
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 20.58
Your call for the DAP assemblymen to stay away from the swearing-in ceremony of the new Perak MB is totally uncalled for and I, like the many voters who have voted for PKR-DAP-PAS, hereby urge you to change your stand immediately.
Perhaps your argument may be that DAP should not be seen to be collaborating with advocates of an Islamic State in PAS but the very fact remains with PAS that PKR-DAP-PAS won the right to establish the State Government there.
In the Sultan of Perak’s eyes, Ir Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin, a professional, may just be the best-qualified person to be made MB of Perak and hence his appointment. Fact of DAP winning the most state seats in Perak is irrelevant going by DAP’s political struggle of Malaysian Malaysia.
Walk the Talk Now, Uncle Lim!
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 21.14
Since leaving BA after electoral defeat in 1999, DAP has kept PAS at bay, for very good reason – DAP is opposed to PAS’s agenda of Islamic State.
I respect Kit Siang, Guan Eng, and Dr. Tan for holding on to their principles. They are not political chameleons who are prepared to go back on their words for political expediency.
DAP should either quit the coalition governments in Selangor and Perak or request PAS to publicly declare that they have no intention to set up an Islamic State whether in the near future or in the long run.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 22.09
now i see your true colour mr LKS..today your picture with your son in CM office really gift bad impression to all malay..now i see dap as parti dua beranak..malay will never gift their vote to you anymore if you continue with your arrogant style.if pas leader can risk their party by working with dap just to make sure malaysian get a better gov..why not you???
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 22.33
This is an opened letter to you from Malaysia-today website, just in case you haven’t read it yet.
An open letter to the DAP on Perak MB’s appointment
Posted by labisman
Thursday, 13 March 2008
I am a Malaysian Chinese residing in Petaling Jaya and had voted for your party’s candidates in the 12th GE.
I had attended practically all your party’s ceramahs in the PJU and nearby areas. In the ceramahs, your speakers had continuously stressed the importance of a multiracial government that takes care of its rakyat regardless of status, race and religion.
It is therefore a great shock and disappointment to hear that the DAP is calling its Perak state assemblymen to boycott the swearing-in ceremony of the new Perak MB tomorrow just because the MB is from PAS. I feel very much let down by this decision.
Firstly, your party calls for the establishment of a Malaysian Malaysia. Isn’t PAS part of Malaysian Malaysia. Or are you telling us now that just because they are from PAS, they are not? Then in the first place, you should not have ask the voters, especially your supporters, to vote for the ‘Bulan’ knowing fully well it is referring to PAS. If you can ask voters, especially your supporters, to vote for PAS, then why can’t your party now accept a PAS assemblyman to head the state government. I was led to believe that as long as a person is qualified, he will be supported. As many speakers said in your ceramahs, ‘It doesn’t matter whether it is a white cat or a black cat, as long as it is able to catch rat, it is a good cat.’ Doesn’t the same argument holds, whether the MB is from PAS, DAP or PKR, as long as he is able to look after the welfare of the rakyat, then he is a good MB.
Secondly, if a candidate from PAS cannot be accepted by the DAP, then why in the first place you decide to set up a coalition government with them? The argument that you can cooperate with the six PAS assemblymen and yet can’t accept a PAS member as the Perak MB does not hold water. Are you trying to fool us just like what the BN government had done over the last 50 years? Don’t think that the public is stupid. How can we, the rakyat, trust you now when even before the state government is set up, you are already fighting among yourselves in the so-called ‘Barisan Rakyat’ coalition.
Thirdly, your party’s Perak state chairman Mr Ngeh Koo Ham had repeatedly said that DAP, PKR and PAS will abide by any decision made by the Sultan on the Perak MB. Now that a decision had been reached, you are going back on your words. As I recall from one of the speeches by Mr Gobind Singh Deo in SS2 on March 7 in which he said, “A politician must be responsible for what he said. After making a statement, he cannot then said that he is saying things in a sarcastic manner etc so as to deny his earlier statement.” Mr Gobind Singh said this when commenting on Tun Mahathir’s statement that when he said Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim was innocent, he was being sarcastic about it. The same standard should then be applied to all DAP party leaders and speakers. You must be responsible and accountable for what you say. When you said that you will accept the decision made by the Sultan, then you must stand by what you had said. Going back on your words now can only show that the BN is right and that your party leaders, especially Mr Lim Kit Siang, is only going after personal glory/power without any regard to the well-being of the rakyat and the party. DAP would then be just a party that is “cakap tak serupa bikin”.
Fourthly, your party has not come out with any reason for the rejection of the PAS assemblyman as the Perak MB. I, as a voter that voted for your party, demand to know the reason behind this decision. Your party had always stressed the importance of accountability and transparency in your election manifesto. Now, please ‘walk the talk’ by also being transparent and explain your decision to the public. Anything less would make you no better than the BN government which 50% of the peninsula rakyat had just rejected. Anything less would also guarantee that the rakyat would make their voices heard again in the next general election, voting against the DAP.
There are many more reasons for my feeling of utter disgust and consternation for this decision made by your party’s CEC. However, I will keep them to myself at this moment.
On the morning of March 9, 2008, I truly believe that a new era has dawned on Malaysia as we are finally able to transcend race and religion in our efforts to make Malaysia the truly great country that she should be. A truly Malaysian Malaysia. Sadly, just three days later, that new era does not even have a chance to begin as the group of leaders that are supposed to lead us there are now fighting among themselves for whatever reasons best known to them.
How can we move forward as a nation when we have leaders that are so selfish, egocentric and who don’t practice what they preached? Is our country forever going to be mired in mediocrity amidst a culture of intolerance, suspicion, fear, corruption and cronyism?
I sincerely thought that DAP is part of the future and a cure of our country’s ills. However, this decision by your CEC had shown that DAP is a party of the past. It is already blinded by its election success and is no longer in touch with the aspirations of the rakyat to build a nation based on trust, integrity, tolerance, responsibility and accountability, regardless of status, race and religion. You had forgotten that the rakyat is the boss that voted for you and put you there to serve us. You had betrayed your voters and had rejected the rakyat’s wish to move forward to form a Malaysian Malaysia.
I rest my case.
By Teh Seng Hin
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 22.39
dear YB,
as well as i respect you as one of our leaders, i do expect this issue could be ironed out amicably.
we, the rakyats , are the ones who MADE the changes a REALITY. Never ever forget that.
And we, the rakyats, do not need this type of things anymore.
I believe any differences SHOULD and COULD be ironed out through a better consultations among the PAS/PKR/DAP leaders.
Please DO NOT disappoint us… THE RAKYAT….
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 23.56
YB Lim,
I’m expecting a better tomorrow in Malaysia, that’s why I voted DAP, both parliament and stage in Melaka. I care not only for Melaka, but Malaysia. Below was said by Ngeh:-
“All three parties have unanimously agreed that we will fully endorse the Sultan’s choice,” said Ngeh, speaking for coalition.
He stressed that, irrespective of the Sultan’s choice, the new coalition government will make decisions collectively.
“We therefore call upon party supporters from all three parties to fully support the new menteri besar,” he said
PLEASE WALK YOUR TALK!
May GOD shower His everlasting blessings upon ALL Malaysians!
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 24.21
iam DAP voter. Really disappointed of your decision. You are too arrogant insulting Sultan Of Perak. You must respect the Sultan decision. Don’t make any stupid statement anymore. Decision can be change as we are human. As long the MB can serve for Rakyat. Soon all bloggers & voters will boycott you. Will see…
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 24.34
YB,
This appointment and delegation by the SULTAN is completely LAWFUL!
Please HONOUR DAP’s words that DAP will accept whoever delegated by the SULTAN.
If YB LKS you think this is unfair to other ethnic, please win the seats with 2/3 majority and change this clause! Do it in a LAWFUL manner and LEGALISE it…..
BOYCOTT culture is primitive, passive and ineffective way of showing your unsatisfaction. Now is no more May13 era. We set the law and EVERYONE shall honour.
With due respect, some gentle reminders for the benefit of DAP:
1) Please voice out BEFORE the incident
2) Please honour your words
3) Please obey the LAW
4) Please be aware that DAP does not belong to Lim Family.
Anyway, I am still very proud of DAP!
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 24.40
Imagine this.
The CEO of Perak Sdn Bhd is the Sultan. The BOD of Perak Sdn Bhd is the people of Perak. And there were three candidates who went for a job interview to get the post of “managing director” of Perak Sdn Bhd.
In the end, the CEO thinks only one candidate is the best and most qualified after taking into account the overall sensitivities of the BOD.
Respect the CEO’s decision.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 24.41
Mr LKS, I thought we voted a Malaysian’s Malaysia, now what’s wrong if PAS given the MB post? We have made ur point. With the current affair, ur dieheart ‘chinese only’ supporter will forgive u for supporting a PAS MB, all of us who have voted DAP-PKR-PAS wanted to believe there is a Bangsa Malaysia! SHow us u r with us the rakyat bangsa Malaysia!
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 25.06
Uncle Lim,
Uncle sudah dipilih oleh rakyat. Uncle patut mendengar suara hati rakyat, bukannya suara hati uncle sendiri. Bersatulah demi rakyat Malaysia.
DAP, PKR and PAS. Do the best. – FOR US.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 25.42
Dear Mr Lim
I’m a malay and staying in Bercham Ipoh. For 12th GE my family decided to vote for DAP….Last GE we voted for BN…We decided to vote for DAP because we already fed-up with BN… & we believe new collaboration between PKR DAP PAS will make a big change to our political scene. BUT after read your statement I am very sad..sad sad.
Honestly I do prefer the candidates either from PKR or DAP to be the new MB for Perak. BUT I respect decision made by Istana. For me who ever been chosen it does not matter..the most important no more BN rules this state.
MR LIM
I know you very well since 80’s . I know your political style. Remember this day your old styles are no more valid. If you still remain your old style …I strongly believe…the next GE you will not be able to see what you have see now…
Mr Lim
Remember…this situation will make our “enemy” laughing. and definately they will take for granted. So who will loose…DAP? PAS? PKR?…The big loser will be “the rakyat”. Mr LIM don’t be selfish and childish…You said the BN goverment so arrogant…but I don’t see any differences between you and BN.
Mr LIM
I’m proud to be a “new malaysian” . PLS don’t spoilt it…
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 26.14
One4All4One, nice note… next bday surely on Datukship list ->kidding my friend.
Raja Nazrin is very well respected and smart. He knows what he is doing but he cant say why he is doing what he is doing. Which explains why there is >500 postings here + LKS’s boycott cos its difficult to understand the underlying rationale for his choice.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 26.41
I believe there are over 66% of the blogs here say “give PAS CM-Perak a CHANCE”. Simple as that. PAS leaders have 18 years experience to running Kelantan state without gov-funds. Draw from that experience! Will DAP get that kind of chance to run any state for 18 years? Those who agree just “aye”. Show YB LKS that we will support his boycott reversal…YB LKS will be immortalised for it. Otherwise, crucified.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 27.13
Dear Uncle Lim,
The thing happened cannot be changed. We have this problem due to you did not trust us – the voters, yourself did not believe the power of people.
You should be well verse with constitution of every state. Why you did not put a Malay DAP candidate for Perak DUN? You need to admit this is your biggest mistake in your life.
I hope you will not make mistake again. We all know who is the best candidate for Selangor MB 1. Please do not choose the one you favourable but not really the best choice.
WE ARE WATCHING ON DAP CLOSELY. WE WILL TAKE BACK OUR VOTES FROM DAP IF YOU ARE NOT RESERVED FOR IT.
Sekian.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 27.19
LKS: If you think, after your dap ppl take 18 seat which is the majority in opposition coalition in perak, then you talk loud loud want this want that want MB, then I will see you as no different than BN coalition which always use majority to bully the minority.
Please retreat what you have said. and make a proper apologise to Sultan Perak.
Btw, I am chinese.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 27.35
LKS, please give us some good reason. Tell us that you have evaluated all the consequences. What can be wrong to have a PAS MB? What can be right if DAP boycott the swearing.
The rakyat make history 8 Mar, our pride and our joy. Don’t blow it, PLEASE.
I hope you hear the rakyat voice here…..
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 27.45
“DAP should be grateful that the Perak Sultan agreed to appoint a non malay Deputy menteri besar. In Selangor, the appointmnet of a non malay deputy Menteri besar was rejected. DAP should be grateful with this small mercies given by the Perak sultan.He is one ruler who command the respect of all Malaysians.”
Richard Teo, are you being sarcastic or you have been a changed man? Your article about the regent of Perak is still very fresh in my mind and I remember your fierce arguments as you defended your almost seditious article and comments.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 27.57
LKS
You just become arrogant in a matter of days. What a let down. Just wish I did not vote DAP because you just confirm my suspicion that DAP is not trustworthy. You just made me laughing stock to BN supporter.
You have no respect of the Perak Sultan and because of that Sir you just lost mine.
In the future you can count me out. I won’t vote for DAP. I will tell my family and friends that DAP is just a racist party. I’ll vote BN (even Pak Lah or KJ is still around) at least they have the decency to respect the Sultan.
Is the MB post is so important to DAP?
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 27.59
Dear Uncle lim,
Please be sensible and respect the decision of the Sultan.May be the PKR candidate don’t have the paper qualification. What if the Pas members join with the BN and form the coalition state government, then the non-malays will not even have a chance to be Vice Menteri Besar at all. So, don’t make the matter worse. Just cooperate with the pas and pkr. Pls don’t boycott the ceremony. Otherwise the BN will just laugh at us. Pls don’t disappoint us. ok . Thank you.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 28.05
The issue here is one of respect for human dignity and democratic values.
It would appear that the Sultan has gone beyond his constitutional powers to appoint the PAS candidate. DAP had endorsed the PKR candidate in the event that the Sultan chose not to exercise his discretionary powers in appointing the rightful candidate who happens to belong to the DAP and who happens to be a Chinese and non-Muslim. Thus the out of the 31 state assemblymen in the ‘opposition’, 25 had agreed to nominate the PKR candidate. But this most illustrious and judicious Sultan has turned logic, decency and democracy on its head and appointed the PAS candidate knowing full well that DAP and PAS do not see eye to eye on fundametal values and have never worked together before the election on a common platform.
DAP has to show their disgust at this most shameful of outcomes which has perverted the democratic process. By not attending the swearing -in ceremony, DAP is in fact being principled. DAP is answerable to the electorate and not to an unelected anachronistic institution which does not understand basic notions of justice and democracy.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 29.23
“Since leaving BA after electoral defeat in 1999, DAP has kept PAS at bay, for very good reason – DAP is opposed to PAS’s agenda of Islamic State.
I respect Kit Siang, Guan Eng, and Dr. Tan for holding on to their principles. They are not political chameleons who are prepared to go back on their words for political expediency.
DAP should either quit the coalition governments in Selangor and Perak or request PAS to publicly declare that they have no intention to set up an Islamic State whether in the near future or in the long run.” Lee Wang Yen
I agree.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 30.00
Hi Kit, Grow up Kit, today’s Malaysian is no more those before 8-March08. Forget about your paintful passed 40years of failure. Head up and walk proudly to the swearing-in ceremony. Let our future generation remember always the good you bring. Dont let us down, please.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 30.06
****Letter from Teh Seng Hin to DAP posted on Malaysiakini****
I am a Malaysian Chinese residing in Petaling Jaya and had voted for your party’s candidates in the 12th GE.
I had attended practically all your party’s ceramahs in the PJU and nearby areas. In the ceramahs, your speakers had continuously stressed the importance of a multiracial government that takes care of its rakyat regardless of status, race and religion.
It is therefore a great shock and disappointment to hear that the DAP is calling its Perak state assemblymen to boycott the swearing-in ceremony of the new Perak MB tomorrow just because the MB is from PAS. I feel very much let down by this decision.
Firstly, your party calls for the establishment of a Malaysian Malaysia. Isn’t PAS part of Malaysian Malaysia. Or are you telling us now that just because they are from PAS, they are not? Then in the first place, you should not have ask the voters, especially your supporters, to vote for the ‘Bulan’ knowing fully well it is referring to PAS. If you can ask voters, especially your supporters, to vote for PAS, then why can’t your party now accept a PAS assemblyman to head the state government. I was led to believe that as long as a person is qualified, he will be supported. As many speakers said in your ceramahs, ‘It doesn’t matter whether it is a white cat or a black cat, as long as it is able to catch rat, it is a good cat.’ Doesn’t the same argument holds, whether the MB is from PAS, DAP or PKR, as long as he is able to look after the welfare of the rakyat, then he is a good MB.
Secondly, if a candidate from PAS cannot be accepted by the DAP, then why in the first place you decide to set up a coalition government with them? The argument that you can cooperate with the six PAS assemblymen and yet can’t accept a PAS member as the Perak MB does not hold water. Are you trying to fool us just like what the BN government had done over the last 50 years? Don’t think that the public is stupid. How can we, the rakyat, trust you now when even before the state government is set up, you are already fighting among yourselves in the so-called ‘Barisan Rakyat’ coalition.
Thirdly, your party’s Perak state chairman Mr Ngeh Koo Ham had repeatedly said that DAP, PKR and PAS will abide by any decision made by the Sultan on the Perak MB. Now that a decision had been reached, you are going back on your words. As I recall from one of the speeches by Mr Gobind Singh Deo in SS2 on March 7 in which he said, “A politician must be responsible for what he said. After making a statement, he cannot then said that he is saying things in a sarcastic manner etc so as to deny his earlier statement.” Mr Gobind Singh said this when commenting on Tun Mahathir’s statement that when he said Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim was innocent, he was being sarcastic about it. The same standard should then be applied to all DAP party leaders and speakers. You must be responsible and accountable for what you say. When you said that you will accept the decision made by the Sultan, then you must stand by what you had said. Going back on your words now can only show that the BN is right and that your party leaders, especially Mr Lim Kit Siang, is only going after personal glory/power without any regard to the well-being of the rakyat and the party. DAP would then be just a party that is “cakap tak serupa bikin”.
Fourthly, your party has not come out with any reason for the rejection of the PAS assemblyman as the Perak MB. I, as a voter that voted for your party, demand to know the reason behind this decision. Your party had always stressed the importance of accountability and transparency in your election manifesto. Now, please ‘walk the talk’ by also being transparent and explain your decision to the public. Anything less would make you no better than the BN government which 50% of the peninsula rakyat had just rejected. Anything less would also guarantee that the rakyat would make their voices heard again in the next general election, voting against the DAP.
There are many more reasons for my feeling of utter disgust and consternation for this decision made by your party’s CEC. However, I will keep them to myself at this moment.
On the morning of March 9, 2008, I truly believe that a new era has dawned on Malaysia as we are finally able to transcend race and religion in our efforts to make Malaysia the truly great country that she should be. A truly Malaysian Malaysia. Sadly, just three days later, that new era does not even have a chance to begin as the group of leaders that are supposed to lead us there are now fighting among themselves for whatever reasons best known to them.
How can we move forward as a nation when we have leaders that are so selfish, egocentric and who don’t practice what they preached? Is our country forever going to be mired in mediocrity amidst a culture of intolerance, suspicion, fear, corruption and cronyism?
I sincerely thought that DAP is part of the future and a cure of our country’s ills. However, this decision by your CEC had shown that DAP is a party of the past. It is already blinded by its election success and is no longer in touch with the aspirations of the rakyat to build a nation based on trust, integrity, tolerance, responsibility and accountability, regardless of status, race and religion. You had forgotten that the rakyat is the boss that voted for you and put you there to serve us. You had betrayed your voters and had rejected the rakyat’s wish to move forward to form a Malaysian Malaysia.
I rest my case.
By Teh Seng Hin
****Letter from Teh Seng Hin to DAP posted on Malaysiakini****
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 30.35
It took me 30mins to register in your traffic packed blog using a tiny PDA, so you can imagine how important it is to tell you my views. Uncle Lim, I am Chinese from Petaling Jaya. For 11 year since I could vote but was first barred to elect for the first time in 1999. This year I decided to get up to attend the endless ceramah in PJ. I followed the who event thru thinking what a great birthday present that I am getting that Samy din get cos my vote got me the Malaysian Malaysia that I always preach to foreign visitor.
I need to tell you to please look at the big picture. I need to believe the BR spirit of a powerful coalition is here to stay. Please DO NOT boycott the ceremony. The rakyat needs the new leadership to be patient. DAP has alot of work to do for the people. Don let BN laugh at the childish action. Now is time for you all to act like leaders. Stop squabbling and not waste my vote and the many I help convert.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 30.35
Correction:
The ethnicity and religious backgroud of a person should not stand in the way when he is being considered for the Menteri Besar post. You are selecting an executive and not a religious officer. In this respect the fact of the matter has to prevail, that is the candidate who had received the most number of votes would
be chosen, bearing in mind that we are a democracy. Else the rakyat, whom you lead would lose confidence and would be further alienated
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 30.36
No need to panic people..
Think Uncle Lim just want to know the opinions of others. He is a great man with great vision… He wont disappoint the PEOPLE.. won’t he?
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 30.43
Always voted Opp.Will do the same in the next election!By the way,I am from Selangor.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 31.09
I am going to sleep after posting this.
Hope that DAP leaders will change the mind
and attend the swearing-in ceremony tomorrow
with open-heart.
Fight for the right thing and not something like
this, which will give chance of BN in attacking
you people, and let rakyat of whole nation
change the mind in supporting you all
in the future.
If PAS does not perform well, people will vote
them out in the next election, as simple as that.
This is Malaysian Malaysia, and we don’t mind
having candidate from PAS to become the MB
of Perak.
It is not easy to win extra seats, and
now, you all suddenly could take over
BN and govern Perak, that is an amazing
achievement, which are given by rakyat
Perak. Thus, you people really got to
appreciate that.
Attend the swearing-in ceremony tomorrow.
Respect Sultan Perak’s final decision.
Thank you.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 31.51
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March 13th, 2008 at 01: 32.06
Lim Kit Siang :
I’m chinese born in Taiping, this is my third time voting for my belover country Malaysia and also is the my first time i VOTE DAP cause i never like DAP especially when the leader of DAP is Lim Kit Siang. (i never vote DAP again)
Why i hate you ?
1. You are a moron with no brain.
2. Your are the must self fish person.
3. You never keep your promise.
4. You only think about your self.
5. You not qualify as a leader.
6. You are screwing up Barisan Rakyat.
7.You are farking racial B*stard.
The reason why i vote DAP :
1. I’m not voting DAP, i vote Barisan Alternative or Barisan Rakyat.
2. I want a purely none racial GOV. NOT YOU MORON.
Try to use your brain to think the question below, if ur brain is sightly bigger then OTAK UDANG.
1. You think DAP can win without them (PKR,PAS)?
2. Why you never WIN ?
3. Did you ever do something good for Malaysian other then complaint on small matter. (don’t pay your toll or pay by 1 cent, come on GROW UP KID).
4. Do you think those supporter who vote DAP is cause or DAP or Barisan Rakyat.
I’m Challenging you to create another speech in KL, tmn tun, ss2 or any where or disclose your asset in Malaysia and oversea …..
My request on you.
1. Please step down from politic and DAP.
2. Keep your mouth SHUT.
You are nothing different with Badawi, TDM and Samyvellu.
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 32.28
Uncle Lim,
The rakyat of Perak has kicked out BN and gave the Barisan rakyat to form a new government. DAP can not form a new government without PAS. Be vary careful, don’t give BN the oppourtunity fo exploit the situation by enticing some of DAP or PKR assemblymen to cross over and form another BN government. IF this happens then you would have squandered this onetime opportunity to replace the corrupt and racist BN government. Since the Sultan has selected one of the 3 persons put forward by all 3 parties you have to respect and support the decision of His Royal Highness. DAP supporters will have to face the reality. If PAS decides not to participate in forming a new government, DAP will be back to square one, continue to be in the opposition. Give the new PAS MB a chance to prove himself to serve all rakyat without discrimination. If he doesn’t live up to his words, DAP can kick him out anytime. The Rakyat has spoken, they want a new government! Please honor the will of the rakyat!
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 32.49
I thought one the opposition’s manifesto was to govern with intergrity, honesty , eradication of corruption and put back what very basic fundamentals for us Malaysian?
It doesnt matter who is the MB as long as the above is duly adhered to.
Why is race coming into the picture again??
Please be informed that the Rakyat gave their support to the opposition because they are fed up with 50 years of shit. If the oppostion is no different from BN, then….. why vote? All shit smells the same!
I am very dissapointed with what is going on…
March 13th, 2008 at 01: 33.09
Honorable Yang Berhormats, CEC Members of DAP.
Please for heavens sake and for the sake of the Barisan Rakyat and the millions that voted you….PLEASE SUPPORT TUANKU’s DECISION
Trust PAS for once, we the people will react accordingly if they fail.
True Muslims respect other religions, values and fai