Mahathir should be recalled to Lingam Tape RCI now that he has recovered his “elephant memory”


Former Prime Minister, Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad has clearly recovered his “elephant memory” from his comments on the death of former Indonesian President Suharto.

Mahathir told Bernama that accounts the former Indonesian leader killed some 500,000 people after taking power in 1965 were “absolute nonsense”.

He said: “I know this for a fact. I knew what happened. Indonesia was in a state of anarchy then and he has no authority. At the time of the killings, he was not even the president. He did not order the killing.”

Mahathir, who ruled for two decades before stepping down in 2003, said he regarded Suharto as a friend of Malaysia and a personal friend.

“We looked up to him as a great leader and as an international statesman. For me, it’s quite personal. I know him and I have worked with him for a very long time.

“Even though Indonesia was not an ideal democracy during Suharto’s time, the fact remained that he brought stability to Indonesia.”

Mahathir added: “Of course, there is a price to be paid,” acknowledging that some people had suffered under Suharto’s administration.

Without getting into a debate on Mahathir’s assessment of Suharto’s leadership of Indonesia, it is good to see Mahathir’s recovery from his recent lapse of memory. He gave his comments on Suharto with confidence and authority, in total command of his memory.

This was very unlike his appearance before the Royal Commission of Inquiry (RCI) on Lingam Tape eleven days ago on January 17, when he had to repeatedly plead loss of memory in his 90-minute testimony.

Asked why he rejected the recommendation of the then Chief Justice, Tun Dzaiddin Abdullah to appoint Dr. Andrew Chew Peng Hui and Zainuddin Ismail as judges, Mahathir replied: “I don’t remember my reasons.”

Asked whether he could recall that before Ahmad Fairuz was recommended as chief judge of Malaya, Dzaiddin had nominated Malek Ahmad, Mahathir said: “I can’t remember precisely.”

There was this Q & A between Mahathir and Dzaiddin’s counsel, Wong Chong Wah:

Wong: Do you remember whether, when Dzaiddin recommended Malek Ahmad, you rejected his suggestion?

Dr Mahathir: I can’t remember him recommending to me.

Wong: A letter dated Aug 19, 2002, from Dzaiddin to you, suggests that he had made an earlier recommendation for Malek Ahmad to be chief judge of Malaya. Did you agree to Dzaiddin’s recommendation at that stage?

Dr Mahathir: I don’t remember whether I agreed or not. I’ve read this
letter but I don’t recall any decision I made on Malek Ahmad.

Now that Mahathir has recovered his “elephant memory” he should be recalled to the RCI on Lingam Tape to throw light on the many dubious and devious decisions he made affecting the judiciary particularly during the last 15 years of his 22-year premiership where he single-handedly destroyed national and international confidence in the independence, integrity and quality of the judiciary.

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  1. #1 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Tuesday, 29 January 2008 - 11:31 pm

    One sign of senility is that one can remember past events which happened very long ago, but not relatively recent ones.

  2. #2 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 29 January 2008 - 11:37 pm

    The man has an elephant’s memory, and I just find it hard to believe he really could not remember the various incidents asked of him in the Royal Commission hearing. He is no Ronald Reagan in terms of suffering from Alzheimer but he is in terms of being a good actor. And he is a very smart man, not easy to pin down by desultory questioning on the commissioners’ part, especially after they had shown such deference of standing up when he made his entrance.

    And maybe they had rightly stood up in deference to this great Malaysian “statesman” (in the local context especially where talent pool, especially amongst politicians, is small) who put the country on the international map.

    I use the word ‘great’ in restricted and special sense, which has nothing to do with the moral criteria of good or bad but the amoral criteria of being measured against the sheer effect or impact on the country in terms of the couse the country took during and after his time.

    For Malaysian history records no phenomenon like him. And no Prime Minister before or immediately after him had produced so incredible accelerations in the pace of Malaysian history, and I don’t mean just lifting or transforming Malaysia from agrarian to Industrial base (which earned him a description from Times Magazine as “Father of Development” or adopting unorthodox capital controls against hedge funds (against conventional IMF’s wisdom of acceding to market forces and biting the bullet) but changing the whole fabric of Malaysian society from pluralistic to polarized society, secular to Islamic and a relatively independent judiciary to something many Malaysians would perceive as subservient to Executive especially in light of the Lingam video clip.

    His peculiar claim to greatness within the limited scope of Malaysian politics is unfortunately unconnected to laying the important foundations of nation building for the future but linked instead to the quality of sheer excess – whether mega projects and their wastage, Islamisation etc, sacking judges, hypocrisy, or being the first PM to openly criticize his anointed successor etc…

    As leader then he was a tremendous eruption of energy that forces his indomitable will on the course the country would take, for better or worse.

    If it was for the worse he is also able to escape public accountability by, in part, the sheer force of his personality and intelligence, and in part the uncanny ability to confound his critics and detractors alike. Examples of that confounding of critics/detractors alike, taken from Malaysiakini report of Jan 29th are: -

    · he recently “lashed the government as ‘weak’ (and comparatively less popular) but said he feared that vote-buying (money politics) would be deployed to stem its losses in upcoming general elections…”I hope that this kind of money politics – I know a lot of people are collecting a lot of money now – if they use money politics the result may not reflect the true feeling of the people….I fear corruption of the voters,” he said (This is as if he did not know money politics was prevalent under his administration and watch);

    · then he “criticised its (govt’s) decision to jail ethnic Indian protesters (Hindraf), saying the minority community had no way of airing its grievances, and that a wave of public protests was inspired by the government’s repeated errors. He further said, “no, I don’t think they should have thrown (Hindraf) leaders (into detention), they should have met these people first and had proper discussion.”

    · Of Anwar, he said, “There is no more political future for (Anwar)… If he thinks he is going to be the prime minister, he is daydreaming.”

    His critics and detractors are confounded because they don’t know whether to criticize and disparage him and continue exposing the failures of his administration or restrain themselves to forgive (let bygones be bygones) and support him and treat him as an ally since nowadays he is talking in such liberal and democratic terms in opposition to the government of the day, which he alone apears to be placed in the unique vantage place to criticize the Powers-That-be, without mincing words, and yet enjoy immunity from whether persecution or prosecution.

    So the question invariably arises – is he trying to really and sincerely make amends for his failures of his administration of 22 years or is it just another ‘show’ just so that his legacy will not be condemned in the history books in the generations to come after him?

    The desire to protect his legacy in the evening of his eventful life lies in this cue of what he said of Suharto – “Even though Indonesia was not an ideal democracy during Suharto’s time, the fact remained that he brought stability to Indonesia – of course, there is a price to be paid”…..

    He is indirectly pleading for an understanding that in his case he did it his way (his favourite song is “My Way” by Frank Sinatra) of what he thought best at that time for the country, and it might well be his belief that nothing could be achieved unless this country evinces strong, and even authoritarian leadership to push things through, never mind (in his case) the Judiciary might be the first casualty…

    I don’t know whether he is sincere but surely many Malaysians will not be in the position of saying “I can’t remember” as he did in the RC hearing, and we will be in the position to adjudge objectively the kind of political legacy bequeathed.

    Also there’s an old saying – you can fool some people some time but not all the people all the time! :)

  3. #3 by alaneth on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:12 am

    How much of the taxpayers money are we spending pursuing this Lingam’s case???

  4. #4 by Godfather on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:12 am

    Jeffrey:

    He corrupted the whole system of check & balance to the point where whoever sits as leader of the country finds it extremely convenient to perpetuate. Mahathir has a deep understanding of human nature – that greed transcends everything in politics, and that the wave of greed will simply drown any leader who believes in “doing the right thing”. Badawi now finds the situation that he inherited as very convenient for what he wants to do for his cronies and relatives. Why would he want to change by making Mahathir accountable for the “mess”? In fact, Badawi probably thinks that Mahathir has left behind an incredibly beneficial policy for UMNO’s leaders, and that if Mahathir were to leave this world tomorrow, Badawi will no doubt hail him as the father of modern Malaysia – and not as the villain who corrupted the future of Malaysia that some of us will remember Mahathir by.

  5. #5 by mendela on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:36 am

    “We ought to focus on a few that matter to most people. Seriously, what about no toll within all metropolitan areas, be it KL, JB, and Penang? “, limkamput.

    Good point.

    DAP should really focus on issues that are affecting the daily life of the people. DAP MUST promise the best solutions if DAP wins.

    Other issues are like rate reduction for Income Tax. Import Duty slashes to zero for all imported cars. Even the abnormally high Passport fee could become an issue too.

  6. #6 by mendela on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:40 am

    Frankly, Mahathir is the biggest crook Malaysia has ever produced.

    But his days are numbered.

    Let’s forget totally about him and let’s focus on coming election instead!

  7. #7 by limkamput on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:44 am

    Godfather, well said again. What you said was Mahathir’s sole legacy, nothing else. This country grew despite of not because of him. Presided over Malaysia for more than 20 years during period when the whole of Asia was experiencing massive foreign investment inflow and transformation, how can we attribute the change to him? No, Mahathir did not transform this country. This country would have transformed itself. Don’t give him credit for nothing.

  8. #8 by HJ Angus on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 1:00 am

    Shame on the Commissioners if they stood up when TDM appeared as a witness. They have insulted the standing of their own commission.

    After all, he is now just like the rest of us, an ordinary citizen.
    I used to admire TDM for he was able to do so many things in Malaysia. In fact I went to one open house in the old Prime Minister’s residence with my daughter.

    Maybe he was so capable he overdid everything including creating a Judiciary that is now the object of much derision.

    Malaysians should have now learned the painful lesson that giving too much power to leaders in times of peace is a major mistake.
    We really need to have a police force of integrity and a judiciary that is not tainted.
    Whatever TDM achieved in terms of strong leadership, these 2 major defects are now the problems in Malaysia.

  9. #9 by scorpian6666 on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 1:03 am

    “Even though Indonesia was not an ideal democracy during Suharto’s time, the fact remained that he brought stability to Indonesia.” …DR M
    ……………………
    Oppp ! no wonder Dr.M did what did to Malaysia.. As long as there is stability .. it’s alright to kill the “bastard “!

    Sorry Dr.M, there will be tears when you go like your friend.. but you also know you will have someone waiting on the other side with all the “Tape Recordings” since the day you were born ..

    Good Luck..

  10. #10 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 1:39 am

    “…I just find it hard to believe he really could not remember the various incidents asked of him in the Royal Commission hearing. He is no Ronald Reagan..” Jeffrey

    You must remember. He started out wanting to be a lawyer and not a doctor. Tunku was instrumental in refusing the Kedah State scholarship for him to go to U.K. to study law in the 50s. Instead the Kedah State government offered him a cheaper scholarship to study medicine at a local university, University of Malaya in Singapore where he also met his future wife.

    Now is the time for Mahathir to act as his own advocate. To lie under oath is perjury, to pretend not to remember is not.

  11. #11 by iggy on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 3:51 am

    PM LIED about the competitiveness ranking of our country!!
    His latest efforts to bolster support for BN!

    http://www.imd.ch/research/publications/wcy/upload/scoreboard.pdf

    PLEASE EXPOSE THIS TO THE NATION!

  12. #12 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 8:37 am

    /// And maybe they had rightly stood up in deference to this great Malaysian “statesman” (in the local context especially where talent pool, especially amongst politicians, is small) who put the country on the international map.

    I use the word ‘great’ in restricted and special sense,… ///

    Jeff, I was about to challenge you… but then saw what you actually wrote. I am glad you wrote statesman in quotation marks and you qualify the word ‘great’…

    Just to add – the rapid economic growth during that era was due to the booming region, not least due to Japan “outsourcing” its lower value-add industries to the region and the “cheap” financing available then due to the low USD interest rate and informal peg of the regional currencies to the USD. Indonesia, Thailand, Korea, Singapore and Malaysia were all booming due to the bubble. The liberalisation of the financial sector in the region, especially in Bangkok, also added to the bubble. The excesses let to the crash of the Thai Baht, resulting in the Asian Financial Crisis.

    So, yes, there was an incredible acceleration during TDM’s reign, but high tides lift all boats; heck, even turkeys can fly during a strong wind…

  13. #13 by Jong on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 10:02 am

    Jeffrey, that was a ‘master piece’, very well said!
    Mahathir is no “statesman”. He’s a devil in disguise.

    I am also impressed by limkamput’s suggestion of eradicating tolls within metropolitan areas of KL, JB and Penang. I think that’s a fantastic idea which DAP and the ‘united front’ should take up.

    Yes, I agree “It is the duty of the government to provide roads as cities expand. NO TOLL Within Metropolitan areas.”!

  14. #14 by sotong on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 10:14 am

    If you want the absolute truth of how the country was governed in the last few decades, vote in a new government to report on the past performance!

  15. #15 by boh-liao on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 10:22 am

    The day TDM entered politics, he left his principles and conscience behind. He is one person totally without principle and that’s why he can do things every which way he likes. That’s why Malaysia is in a mess, though superficially we have many external soul-less forms.

  16. #16 by sotong on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 10:44 am

    Imagine country’s economy under the damaging NEP policies restricting and limiting free market enterprise for real growth and job creation if the private sector did not work very hard around its failed policies!

    The private sector with its hard working ordinary people are the backbone of the country’s economy growth….the public sector lost billions due to gross financial incompetent.

  17. #17 by kanthanboy on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 10:48 am

    “To lie under oath is perjury, to pretend not to remember is not.”

    undergrad2,

    So lying to the RCI that you cannot remember is not lying? I thought lying means when you are not telling the truth

  18. #18 by People on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 12:52 pm

    TDM has gone senile. If not he and his co-actors should be casted into Hollywood Hall of Fame !! Wonder whether John Woo has read their CVs?

  19. #19 by HJ Angus on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 2:09 pm

    No Hollywood Hall of Fame as the acting did not convince anyone except the complaint commissioners.

    We need to erect a Monument of Infamy dedicated to all those leaders who destroyed Malaysia’s future.

  20. #20 by Jong on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 2:17 pm

    ..then pee for free?! hahaaha! :D

  21. #21 by Jong on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 2:49 pm

    //Badawi now finds the situation that he inherited as very convenient for what he wants to do for his cronies and relatives. Why would he want to change by making Mahathir accountable for the “mess”? //
    - Godfather

    Which means the next person to inherits the PM’s seat will not want to change since the whole corrupt system since benefit him also? We have one village idiot and its already so bad what more to imagine if and when Najib takes over from him? That guy’s dangerous, conniving!

    Time for change of government Malaysians, let’s kick BN out, no “ifs” not “buts” ! Let 2008 be year of change for the better!

  22. #22 by Jong on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 2:56 pm

    sorry, correction: ” Which means the next person who inherits…”

  23. #23 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 8:38 pm

    undergrad2, so lying to the RCI that you cannot remember is not lying? I thought lying means when you are not telling the truth? ” kathanboy

    Can you prove that a witness is lying when he said he could not remember?

    There is a procedure allowed in court called ‘memory refreshing’ i.e. when you use written records made contemporaneously and are therefore accurate, to refresh the memory of a witness. But the record itself is not evidence because to admit it would be to infringe on the common law rule against heresay.

  24. #24 by limkamput on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 10:48 pm

    iggy Says:
    Today at 03: 51.19 (18 hours ago)
    PM LIED about the competitiveness ranking of our country!!
    His latest efforts to bolster support for BN!
    http://www.imd.ch/research/publications/wcy/upload/scoreboard.pdf

    I think the ranking iggy referred to is the overall ranking. What the PM highlighted was the government delivery ranking. You see, the overall ranking is made up of many variables one of which is government delivery. Just to clarify in case we are accused for inaccuracy.

  25. #25 by Loh on Wednesday, 30 January 2008 - 11:37 pm

    TDM certainly remembers the relationahips he had with his four deputies, especially why the four of them were appointed. How many Chief justices and Lord presidents were apponted suring his watch; at most half a dozen. TDM did not simply endorse the candidates suggested for the position of of LP or CJ. He would have given careful consideration about the candidates because these appointments had to be approved by the Conferences of the Rulers. He would have to be prepared to justify why the candidates were suggested, and for that he would have a list of persons who were considered second best for those positions, such as Malek Ahmad whom the rulers certainly were aware of his calibre to be considered for appointment as CJ. It is therefore intersesting that TDM claimed that he could not remember precisely that Malek Ahmad was nominated as CJ by his boss. What did TDM remember even if not precisely?

  26. #26 by dawsheng on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 3:19 am

    dawsheng, see a doctor tomorrow, you are showing signs of amnesia already! – posting 4 times same comment repeatedly! -Jong

    Is the wine!

  27. #27 by toyolbuster on Thursday, 31 January 2008 - 10:08 am

    Mahathir Syndrome – I Don’t Remember.

    Eusoff Syndrome – I Also Don’t Remember.

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