Iskandar Dzulkarnain | March 16, 2013
Free Malaysia Today
The sultan should seriously get a life and or get a job. How long can he and his band of merry men last if they continue to go around pretending to be royal consorts of an imaginary kingdom?
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Apparently, our billion-ringgit jet fighters missed their targets, as mopped-up operations failed to turn in any bodies, while the chief of the militant group, “Prince” Agbimuddin Kiram, has appeared on Philippine national TV live in a telephone interview.
So, there was no total victory as reported and the siege has not ended. The stand-off is turning more bizarre as the Philippine media reported a conspiracy involving the Philippine opposition under former president Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.
Coincidentally, the Malaysian government is also pointing its fingers at the involvement of the opposition here. Representatives of the self-proclaimed Sultan Jamalul Kiram III were alleged to have attended the Umno annual general assembly last year, while some Sabah Umno representatives are alleged to have close ties with the Sulu Sultanate.
So, it is not merely the case of a simple band of 200 opportunistic marauders landing on Sabah’s shores with the high hopes of staking a claim on Sabah. Apparently, there is more at stake involving the governments or opposition of both countries.
“Princess” Jacel Karim of the Sulu Sultanate has come up with contradicting statements, adamant that the Malaysian government has agreed in principle to pay compensation to the Sulu Sultanate, a few months before the onset of this conflict. She is also reportedly unhappy with the terrorist label and claims that the intruders are armed with the “truth”.
“Sultan” Jamalul Kiram III describes the 200 intruders as the “Royal Sulu Army” – men of honour, disciplined, peace-loving, who have returned to stake their claim on their long-lost homeland. They want to live among Sabahans, share their land with us including the riches and spoils of Sabah.
They also want to install a Sultanate and enforce the Syariah code. Sabahans can also look forward to a Sultanate and become his loyal subjects.
Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) chief Nur Misuari seems to be taking a great interest in the crisis by initially offering to mediate a ceasefire. Later, he warned that MNLF will not sit idly by and watch the Malaysian army annihilate the intruders.
President Benigno Aquino III will not be forgiven for standing back while Malaysia rained bombs on Filipino citizens in Sabah, Nur Misuari has said.
“Aquino should be more decisive and stop Malaysia’s attack on Jamalul’s men in Sabah instead of siding with his southern neighbour. What he has done is very bad.”
“And for what reason is he [Aquino] aligning this country with Malaysia, a colonial power occupying the land of our people? I am totally against that with all my soul. The country will be in total chaos if they [Malaysia] arrest the Sultan, I promise you.”
A mischief-maker
From his statement, Nur Misuari is adamant on prolonging this conflict for whatever reason best known to him. And basing on his actions, Nur Misuari has proven himself to be a mischief-maker bent on war and destruction.
Why would anyone want to quote him defies the imagination. The Philippines and Malaysia should leave him alone to his little toys and avid imaginations of grandeur.
Ironically, the Christian Filipino government has just signed a peace treaty with the Muslim rebels, signalling a ceasefire in the Southern Philippines. Are the restless freedom-fighters now eyeing other easy targets to the South?
About 800,000 Filipinos from the Tausog tribe are known to be residing in East Malaysia with many holding blue ICs and citizenship. The MNLF has warned that another 10,000 Tausogs have set sailed for the coast of Sabah to reinforce the 200 intruding militants.
The USS Guardian, an American warship that ran aground in the Sulu Sea three weeks before the invasion, has set off speculation that the US may be involved, and equated the incident to the migration of the Sulu militants to Sabah.
Whatever it is, Sabah has chosen to unite under the Malaysian federation in 1963 and it is an undeniable part of Malaysia.
Malaysia should not entertain any opportunists, whether the Sultan of Sulu or the Filipino government, that are trying to stake a vague claim on Sabah.
Whether there was any conspiracy in the Lahad Datu stand-off, the Malaysian government must move quickly to resolve this crisis before it blows out of proportion.
An alternative is to provide a safety corridor for all the militants to return to the sea peacefully.
Porous borders
All foreigners without valid documents should be asked to leave Sabah before our government embarks on a high-profile operation to crack down and rein in all the illegals. Besides, there should not be any illegals residing in Sabah or anywhere else in Malaysia, according to the law.
Secondly, the Malaysian navy should take concrete steps to seal our porous borders against any future illegal intrusions.
Trade can continue as long as foreigners are in possession of legal documents. It is time to solve Sabah’s longstanding immigrant problems once and for all.
We believe that the majority of legal Filipino Malaysians residing in Sabah would be loyal to Malaysia and would not want any conflict to jeopardise the peace and tranquillity of the state which they have chosen to call their homeland.
In short, they are no more Filipinos but legal Malaysian citizens who speak the Malay language, like what former prime minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad has said.
Malaysia should call for the extradition of the Sultan of Sulu for wreaking untold damage on the economy of Sabah as well as being responsible for the unnecessary deaths stemming from a totally foolish venture.
He should be made to reimburse every sen and to pay for his heinous crimes against this country. There should be no two “buts” about it.
Malaysia must issue a stern warning to everyone out there, including the Suluks and the MNLF, that Malaysia would not entertain any dubious claims, however small it may be, on Sabah.
Strong signal
We must send a strong signal to all the royal sultanate wannabes, now totalling over 50 claimants, that it would be foolhardy to test the resolve of Malaysians who would not sacrifice an inch of our territory to anyone.
There are allegations that Malaysia has been paying a token sum of RM5,300 a year to the Sulu Sultanate for the cessation of Sabah. We are very sure that if the sum is increased, in accordance with former chief minister Harris Salleh’s proposal, to RM200 million, the Sultanate will gladly drop its claims again.
This, of course, amounts to daylight extortion and modern-day piracy as these freedom-fighters are famed for.
The Sultan should seriously get a life and or get a job. How long can he and his band of merry men last if they continue to go around pretending to be royal consorts of an imaginary kingdom, waiting for his subjects to continue feeding his enlarged ego?
Malaysians should stop taking sides and stop pointing fingers. We should rally around our troops and police personnel and give them our moral support.
We should remain united against an enemy who still believes in fairy tales and who is bent on invading our homeland.
Let’s start the ball rolling by contributing to the slain warriors’ fund for those who have gone down in the line of fire.
#1 by 1citizen on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 8:52 am
A hogwash bizarre article of reporting that is of fictional facts in a non-fiction.
#2 by drngsc on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 8:58 am
Yes, this crisis is bizarre, and there are many unanswered questions. Unfortunately, this dysfunctional goumen is looking into it with blinkers to see who to blame, not to find the truth. So sad. We will never learn from our mistakes. Precious lives were lost. They cry for awhile, and try and blame all and sundry except the “invisible hand or hands” who started it all.
Maybe it is us. Whatever they say, we are not going to believe them anymore, as they have lied to us so often.
Just looking at the obvious points, some of the questions that we have, must indicate that the authorities either knew about it or had a hand in it. For example, how did this group of militants squat in our Malaysian soil, heavily armed, for 3 weeks and we did nothing about it, and when we did do something, we send it lightly armed Police men, and said that we care for our Policemen.
How lah? macham mana?
So many more questions. I will not bore you all.
We must change the tenant at Putrajaya. GE 13 is coming. We must work very very hard to get all to vote. Every vote counts. We must send this corrupt, habitual liars to the opposition bench so that they can learn some honesty and cleanse themselves. First to GE 13, then to Putrajaya.
Change we must. Change we can. Change we shall.
#3 by Loh on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 10:19 am
Mahathir’s views in Malaysian Insider
///KUALA LUMPUR, March 14 – Tun Dr Mahathir argued today that non-Malay complaints of discrimination stemming from policies favouring the Malays are without “basis” as the country’s minorities too enjoy special rights including the freedom to speak their native languages and practice their own religion.///–Mamakthir
Speaking one’s own native language and practising one’s own religion are the basic human rights advocated by the United Nations, which Malaysia belongs. Malaysia cannot deny its citizens their basic human rights; else Malaysia becomes a unwelcomed state to the international community. Malays too enjoy those basic human rights, and they were placed under the special position for reasons well documented in the report of the Reid’s Commission on Malaya’s independence. It is not what Mamakthir says and he has no right to create history as he likes. The basis to conclude that non-Malays are discriminated is known to all the leaders of the civilized countries in the world, but yet Najib had the nerve to advocate moderation in the United Nations General Assembly when he does not practice it at home.
///“Each race enjoys special rights in their own way,” the longest-serving former prime minister (picture) told a forum at University Malaya here, when asked to comment on the opposition’s push for “Malaysian Malaysia” carried by the DAP’s predecessor, the People’s Action Party (PAP), in 1964.///–Mamakthir
When everybody enjoys the same basic rights, it means that they do not enjoy special rights. Those people who enjoyed something extra might be said to be given the ‘special favour’ like special position to be taken care of; they do not have the special rights.
///Dr Mahathir said while the country’s ethnic majority do enjoy a special position under the Constitution, the same law guarantees the minorities the right to self-identity through the freedom to practice their respective religion, language and mother-tongue education.///–Mamakthir
The law guarantees the basic human rights for non-Malays. They are discriminated by BN government which reads beyond the constitution, such as the NEP which is not provided in the constitution.
///He added that only in Malaysia, the minorities identify themselves according to their root “nationality” like “Chinese Malaysian” and “Indian Malaysian”, a phenomena that reflects the freedom and rights enjoyed by the non-Malays.///–Mamakthir
Sulu people call themselves Tausug, but Chinese call themselves Chinese even though they can be further divided into 56 ethnic groups. Chinese in Malaysia are happy to be called Malaysian. But when you ask them of their race, they certainly would not say Malay unlike Mamakthir who is Malayalee but he calls himself Malay. When government documents ask the people to fill the column of race, they have to describe who they are, in the name that is accepted by the authority. If that question is not asked, then the answer would not be given.
Mamakthir once said that there should not be a column on race in government forms/documents. His intention was to have names that do not sound like Chinese, Indian or Christian automatically treated as Malays. As Malaysia still practices race-based policies, people who want to be treated as Malay have to state it officially, so that person who masquerades as Malay might be charged for making false declaration. But nobody touches Mamakthir when it is known that he is not Malay but claiming to be one.
///“This idea is not practised anywhere else. In Indonesia the Chinese don’t call themselves Indonesian Chinese, they call themselves Indonesians and speak Indonesian.///–Mamakthir
That statement would only be made by an irresponsible person like him. He is saying that of the eight million Indonesians of Chinese descend none will answer correctly when he is asked of his race. Chinese Indonesians speak Chinese too so are Chinese Thais. There is no racial discrimination in Thailand.
///“Here, we agreed to maintain their rights,” Dr Mahathir said.///
It is not a right to say the right thing, unless Mamakthir thinks that everyone should lie.
///Dr Mahathir had and continues to be the leading proponent of Malay rights, in the face of growing calls for a revision of Putrajaya’s race-based affirmative action policies which have been blamed for much of Malaysia’s present economic woes.
Critics have also attributed the country’s corruption problems on the policies which they said nurtured the entrenched culture of political patronage among Umno supporters.
The federal opposition pact Pakatan Rakyat (PR) argued that such policies and the Malay-rights debate are used to enrich only a selected few Malays. Its pledge to dismantle race-based policies and put in place an economic model based on merits have won the support of the non-Malays.///–the report
The surest way to divide the citizens in a country is to have government policies based on race, with some having preferential treatment and others the target of discrimination.
///But while PR leaders maintained that this does not mean the abolition of Malay rights, Dr Mahathir alleged voting the opposition would erode the positions of the Malays who would end up being “slaves in their own country”.///–Mamakthir
Now Malays are slaves to UMNOputras, just like the non-Malays, in paying higher price for proton so that the APs holders who are UMNOputras can become multimillionaires. That slavery should stop first.
When the country practices rule of law not tempered by race, nobody will have the excuse to take advantage of others in the name of making Malays proud. No one is a slave if he reaps what he sows.
///The former prime minister argued today that it would not be possible to abolish Malay privileges without doing away with the rights of the minorities.
“If you want to abolish the rights of one race then you have to also do away with the rights of others. Of course none of the races would want this,” he said.///–Mamakthir
To do the away with the basic human rights of its citizens, whether in the minority or majority, Malaysia will become failed. Malays are placed in the special position according to Article 153; that according to the Reid Commission report, was based on needs and ought to subject to review by the parliament.
///Dr Mahathir had also suggested that the growing opposition to Malay rights reflected a deepening racial strife. He argued that this showed Malaysians are now more racially-conscious.///–Mamakthir
BN government makes Malaysians race conscious. The late Tun Dr Ismail said that Malays would be happy to end the special position out of pride, when they are ready. Mamakthir knows no pride for Malays; he is not one of them biologically, the status of which cannot change with time.
///This has led to stronger racial identification including the birth of more vernacular schools and poorer integration among Malaysia’s different races.
“In other countries there is assimilation but here we are happy with integration. There is even little integration now. The different races are not coming together,” he said.///–Mamakthir
When Mamakthir was in power he pretended to accept Bangsa Malaysia. He objected to Najib’s 1Malaysia, and now he is the worst racist in the country advocating animosity against non-Malays.
True Malays are peace loving. People who masquerade as Malays such as Ridhuan Tee and Mamakthir thrive through racial animosity. They promote hatred against one another based on race.
A poem written by Andrew Cheng sums up Mamakthir’s character very well:
Quote: ///A “Tribute” to Dr M
By Andrew Cheng
A Doctor In The House wry and sly,
The Malay Dilemma you feign to cry,
Soon after the tragedy in May 69,
Rising from the ashes you became mighty and high,
A good 22 years you reign in style,
Shedding crocodile tears when time to say good bye.
A crooked man with a crooked mind,
Wanted a crooked bridge, the rationale hard to find,
Billions vanished without any trace or sign,
Plundering the country is never a crime,
Corruption, cronyism and racialism, all are fine,
Leaving this beloved Bolehland way far behind.
Ketuanan Melayu, Hidup Melayu is your battle cry,
You scream all these to cover your deception and lie(s),
Many saw these but pretend to be blind,
Mercy upon those who do not toe your line,
Know not why you lose your memory when in a bind,
#4 by Jeffrey on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 11:31 am
Kiram should “get a life”..Yeah he’s trying to do so by this ‘bizarre’ claim. It is unprecedented. He says he wants to go to UN ie ICJ in Hague to vindicate his claim that Sabah belongs to Sulu Sultanate. He has 3 problems: (1) Sulu Sultanate is not recognized by UN or international community as a sovereign entity (2) there are several contenders (eg Sultan Badaruddin) as to who is rightful heir to Sulan Sulu (3) ICJ has no jurisdiction to hear cases by non state actors like Kiram; it only hears dispute between nations, and Philippines is not reviving claim on Sabah and even if it does so, it requires joint consent of both nation parties and obviously Malaysia is not consenting to go to ICJ (4) by international law claim to ancestral proprietorship of territory based on treaties /historical records subordinated and cannot override (a) people’s right to self determination already confirmed by a Mission by UN (Cobbold mission) and (b) Malaysia’s exercise of sovereignty powers over Sabah for more than 4 decades! (c) ICJ already ruled in Indonesia-Malaysia dispute of Pulau Ligitan and Pulau Sipadan that Philippines has no legal basis to intervene on Claim that Sabah was hers.
#5 by Loh on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 12:02 pm
///“Princess” Jacel Karim of the Sulu Sultanate has come up with contradicting statements, adamant that the Malaysian government has agreed in principle to pay compensation to the Sulu Sultanate, a few months before the onset of this conflict. She is also reportedly unhappy with the terrorist label and claims that the intruders are armed with the “truth”.///–the author
If the claim is merely for the money from the descendants of a family which entered into an agreement to lease the land now known as Sabah, till the end of time, who prefer to convert the lease till tend of time to one-time settlement, that claim can be amicably settled. It should be the responsibility of the now ‘sultan of sulu’ to settle with other pretenders to the title. The so-called sultan certainly cannot claim to have Sabah under his control, and neither would Malaysians want to install him as sultan, for Sabah.
The 200 million suggested by Harris Salleh might be a hundred times more that the poorest sultan every dreamed. But it should be possible to compute the purchasing power of 5,300 Spanish Dollar in 1903 to what its is now, and make a lump sum payment for 99 years, with a new agreement to terminate all future claims.
Malaysia can certainly finish off Sulus now, but it is an unequal contest!
#6 by Jeffrey on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 12:12 pm
So if Kiram has no basis in international law to claim/compete sovereignty rights over Sabah what does this make out Raja Muda Agbimuddin’s enterprise of 234 odd armed incursion to be? If Philippines news portals (quoted by Malaysiainsider) were to be believed, it seems villagers claimed Agbimuddin was a Kudat Assistant district officer during the time of former chief minister Mustapha Harun, between 1967 and 1976. He and possibly many of armed intruders probably hold 2 ICs one from here and the other from Philippines. What does that make them-international citizens or terrorist or Malaysian citizen committing treason against the state for trying to instigate insurgency amongst Tausug/suluk immigrants in hope of MNLF militant support from within Sabah and outside from Philippines??? No wonder our people here want to throw the book (Penal Code on treason) at Agbimuddin for the latter. It seems bizarre – how could he contest Malaysian sovereignty over Sabah now, and if Borneo Insider news portal’s claims were to be believed, yet hold Malaysian IC and at one time serve as civil servant (assistant DO) for Tun Mustapha Harun’s Sabah state Govt in 1970s? If anything his position as retired civil servant & holder of IC implies he had accepted in past Malaysian Sovereignty that he now challenges.
#7 by lee tai king (previously dagen) on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 12:18 pm
Put cintanegara in command to clear sabah of all illegal bumiputras – those that monsterO’mamak baked with his Monster brand bumi baking machine.
Good chance for cintanegara to demonstrate to the world the right way to cinta negara.
#8 by worldpress on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 12:58 pm
Seem what Project IC got Sabah into…now phillipine may want send troop to Sabah.
It is recommended to strike off that Dr title who was behind backing the Project IC.
#9 by Loh on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 1:27 pm
///The Philippine senate has demanded its government to hold Malaysia accountable for possible human rights violations against the 800,000-strong Filipino migrant community in Sabah at the hands of local authorities, who are searching for a ragtag band of Sulu militants claiming ownership of the north Borneo state.///–MalaysianInsider
Following the Philippine’s example, China and India should make Malaysia face the discrimination charges.
#10 by tuahpekkong on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 1:32 pm
Cannot write that our billion Ringgit jet fighters missed their targets, must write that all our fighters attacked with pin-point accuracy, killing many terrorists and forcing the remainder to come out of their hideouts and surrender. Otherwise, you may be charged with disloyalty. I have been following the intrusion/invasion of the Sulu soldiers from day one. The sight that shocked me most was the presence of so many illegal settlements along the coast of Sabah. Who allowed such a situation to occur? Why are these illegal immigrants not sent back to their home country?
#11 by monsterball on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 1:43 pm
Breaking news!!!
Now Cecil Abraham admitted drafting the second draft without the late Bala’s knowledge…instructed by NAJIB!!!
This proves Najib has something to do with Altantuya’s death.
#12 by monsterball on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 1:48 pm
And a dozen lawyers willing to stand as witnesses that Cecil Abraham admitted drafting 2nd SD at the bar council meeting.
Bala is dead….but the truths from his own lips… will be revealed by many lawyers.
#13 by monsterball on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 1:57 pm
Will Umno b allows a confirmed lair and murderer to the 13th GE polls?
Win or lose….Najib must stand trial for Atlantuya’s death and the huge chunk of money…more than RM1 billion on last count for corruptions…which he termed that…. as commission given out…just like Toyo’s smart comment…
“Willing buyer. Willing seller”….sort of no one suffers from the deals…forgetting they are Malaysians land and money.
#14 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 4:59 pm
By The Way, Malaysiakini reports Najib instructed Cecil Abraham to prepare SD2?
Why Najib, why?
Bodohnya. Now sangkut teruk-teruk-lah.
Altantuya, Bala – now may your sould rest in peace now that the truth is out.
Why Najib, why?
Aiyomama….
#15 by joehancl on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 5:09 pm
The above IS bizarre and below is a mess if you put on your thinking cap….
Saturday March 16, 2013
Tourist and cabbie go at each other over unreasonable fare
By STEVEN DANIEL
[email protected]
KUALA LUMPUR: A tourist and a taxi driver assaulted each other physically at a busy street when the latter refused to use the meter and quoted the foreigner an exorbitant rate for a short distance’s travel.
According to eyewitnesses, the incident occurred at about 11.15am near Jalan Alor, off Jalan Bukit Bintang, as the tourist, in his 40s, was looking to hail a taxi outside a hotel.
“He had asked about five taxis parked there earlier to drive him to a certain location,” a witness, who declined to be identified, said.
“But all of them refused to use the meter and had asked him for a high fare. When he reached the sixth taxi, he must have been very angry,” said the witness.
“When that taxi driver also refused to use the meter and asked for an exorbitant sum, he started shouting at the driver. The driver shouted back and this was when he got punched in the face.”
Furious, the 51-year-old taxi driver got out, pulled out a piece of wood from his vehicle and hit the foreigner on his head.
This led to a full-blown brawl between the two as bystanders watched the violence.
The foreigner grabbed a rock and smashed the back windscreen and a side mirror of the taxi.
Shortly after that, DBKL enforcement officers and policemen arrived at the scene to break up the fight.
“Both men were left bloodied from the injuries they suffered on their bodies, head and hands,” said the witness.
Police later took the tourist to the Tun H.S. Lee police station for questioning.
The taxi driver lodged a police report.
City CID chief Senior Asst Comm Datuk Ku Chin Wah said police would investigate the matter further.
Who are we to blame, the tourist or taxi driver?
Certainly you cannot blame the tourism minister, you may be charged for slander.
#16 by john on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 5:41 pm
Again, again and again ALL can be traced back to MaMak Kutty handiworks past over 30 years !
#17 by sotong on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 6:34 pm
Now there are numerous traitors, terrorists and extremists in the country…this is a serious national security problems for generations to come.
#18 by monsterball on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 6:45 pm
Lahud Datu- a bizarre crisis it is…and the more weird and bizarre…suits Najib’s character a the mastermind.
Yes…..Emergency Rule…was in the making…uncalled for with deaths..from both sides….but this is how Dictators work in all countries with money….to the poor and defending the country comes naturally…from trained men.
How cruel can a person be….to concoct and conjure a war to save his own skin.
Sadam did that….Marcos did that….and few more.
Is Malaysia governed by dictators??
#19 by monsterball on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 7:15 pm
People who committed 7 cardinal sins are known to be …a very very sinful person.
What do you call a man like Najib…who committed much more than 7 cardinal sins?
#20 by rjbeee on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 9:20 pm
Billion ringgit jets missed targets,,,,,of cause you have half baked pilots… you think there will bomb their own kind…hahahaha..
mamak tongkang should be there……
#21 by lee tai king (previously dagen) on Saturday, 16 March 2013 - 11:16 pm
Bizzare has a name. And it is umno!
#22 by good coolie on Sunday, 17 March 2013 - 12:19 am
Whether it is UMNO or the Opposition (PKR) cooking up this “sandiwara” (alamak, room at Kamungting for me!), these extremist fellows (Sulu fellows, Moro fellows, and Pattani fellows are fierce fighters). They make good servants, but poor masters. Watch out, don’t do deals with the devil.
We Malaysians are soft-hearted fellows. When terrorists are starving, we supply them food. We like to solve problems amicably, the Malaysian way. But look around, and know from the world that you cannot be soft with terrorists.
Hit hard warriors. An old man wishes you well and offers prayers for you.
#23 by boh-liao on Sunday, 17 March 2013 - 3:07 am
BIZARRE – Yes, d following r bizarre
Ppl who hv things or evidence against NR were C4ed or dropped dead @ d right time – very convenient indeed
On d other hand, UmnoB kaki keep popping out sex fotos/tapes/videos of ppl who vaguely look like n sound like a person who is truly well sexually abused
UmnoB n msm seem keen 2 educate rakyat abt explicit sex, anything dat they fantasise
#24 by chengho on Sunday, 17 March 2013 - 4:50 am
bizarre too much Dapters dreaming , could be some cocktail
ABCD
#25 by PRmaju on Sunday, 17 March 2013 - 8:31 am
1citizen, he article is not bizarre,did you copy your line from somewhere? which part of the article is fiction ?
#26 by chengho on Sunday, 17 March 2013 - 5:59 pm
another spinning wheel Dr in the house of Dapter