Dad: Son ‘beaten like a cow,’ framed of engine theft

By Joseph Sipalan and Gavaskar Brian Raj | Malaysiakini

The father of Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) sergeant N Tharmendran today alleged that his son was tortured and forced to confess to the theft of two jet engines while under remand.

“They beat him like a cow,” said N Nagarajah, 71, after lodging a police report on the matter at the Brickfields police headquarters today.

Nagarajah was accompanied by human rights lawyer N Surendran and three PR members of parliament – DAP’s M Manogaran (Teluk Intan) and PKR’s S Manikavasagam (Kapar) and Low Gwo Burne (Kelana Jaya).

Nagarajah claimed that two RMAF officers, a Major Azam and a Major Ismail, had beaten and mistreated his son over a period of nearly three weeks from July 2 to 17 last year.

He claimed that Major Ismail made Tharmendran wear a crash helmet, which he then proceeded to hit repeatedly using a golf club and cricket bat.

Nagarajah said his son was told by Major Ismail that he wrote the names of all his torture subjects, including Tharmendran’s, on the crash helmet.

Nagarajah also claimed that his son was stripped down to his underwear in a room where the air-conditioning was set at full-blast, and that he was not allowed to sleep, with regular interrogations after midnight.

“All the time, they kept asking him to confess he had stolen the two F5E fighter jet engines from Sg Besi TUDM Base.

“Major Ismail also threatened to shoot my son and (co-accused) Rajandran Prasad,” he said in his report.

Nagarajah also alleged that the officers had told Tharmendran, who is currently held under remand at the Sungai Buloh prison, to also confess to stealing other airplane spare parts and air force property.

Surendran, acting as lead counsel for Tharmendran and his family, claimed the Attorney-General was fully aware of the torture and yet proceeded to charge him with stealing the jet engines.

“The fact that he was tortured to confess suggests that he is not guilty. Why is it that an armed forces personnel can be tortured severely on a military base?,” he asked.

‘No chance to give his side of story’

Surendran added that the RM150,000 bail set by the Sessions Court is highly questionable as Tharmendran has not had a chance to give his side of the story since the incident made headlines last year.

Manogaran said they will demand for a Royal Commission of Inquiry into the case, and at the same time present a memorandum to the Inspector-General of Police and raise it in Parliament next week.

“Only through a royal commission can we have a fair investigation. We need to know how many are involved, who is involved, how long it has been going on, who is buying and how much is it all worth.

“Does it go all the way up to the generals? If they can sell spare parts, they can sell information too,” Manogaran said.

Tharmendran and businessman Rajandran were both charged in the Sessions Court in January this year in relation to the stolen jet engines.

Tharmendran was charged with stealing and abetting in the crime while Rajandran faces a charge of handling stolen properties. Both were also charged with conspiring to steal the engines.

Tharmendran was also charged with conspiring in the theft of the two engines with senior serviceman Mohamad Shukri Mohamad Yusop at the material processing shed (Matra 1) of the RMAF base in Sungai Besi.

Tharmendran’s and Rajandran’s trial has been set for July 19 at the Petaling Jaya sessions court.

  1. #1 by boh-liao on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 2:49 pm

    Play golf n cricket, SOP of PDRM

  2. #2 by k1980 on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 3:27 pm

    They beat him like a cow.

    At least he did not end up like A. Kogan

  3. #3 by DAP man on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 3:56 pm

    In any other country the higher up will take the rap but here we have underlings made scapegoats – be it murder by C4 or vanishing jet engines.

    In any case it is always safer to beat up an Indian. After all MIC is not going to stand up for him.

  4. #4 by SENGLANG on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 4:00 pm

    Honestly we have to ask our self an honest question? how on earth a low profile personnel can manage this huge theft? did the govern expect us such a stupid to believe in the story these two guys manage to curi and shipped the aircraft?that a simple honest question that need an honest answer the rest is just soap opera

  5. #5 by frankyapp on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 4:43 pm

    Don’t imagine now,you have facts that our RMAF is brutal to even its own staff,let alone non staffs. Similarly our PDRM too are brutal in their investigation as in A Kogan case and the recently killing of the 15year old school boy. Like I said PM Najib could condemned others and accused them of being gangsters and barbarians in the flotilla case in Gaza recently and the question is are we any better ? I think this is a pretty clear example of the kettle calling the pot black.

  6. #6 by monsterball on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 4:58 pm

    This is our “1Malaysia” country…governing the country like Hitler’s SS.
    If Najib is that sincere…he should stop all the tortures.
    Why can’t the culprit be charged and let the court decide?
    Are we heading for Vision 2020 or back to the jungle law?
    Looks like Vision 2020 under Najib’s dictatorship rule or nothing.
    Surely .if that officer is guilty…government lawyers can put out a water tight case against him?
    But you see….that cannot be done…as if he is guilty…he is not alone and the ring master and his gang must be protected…for that man can be an UMNO B important member?
    Najib’s government are famous for telling half truths and doing half done work …naturally and something purposely.
    Where have true justice gone to?

  7. #7 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 5:02 pm

    Torture appears standard operation procedure to extract confession to pin blame on the confessor made to take the fall to shield others higher up from being implicated. This beginning to sound like a routine in the Malaysian Gulag.

    That aside “Nagarajah claimed that two RMAF officers, a Major Azam and a Major Ismail, had beaten and mistreated his son over a period of nearly three weeks from July 2 to 17 last year.”

    I wonder why does it take as long as a year after the torture for this side of story to publicly surface?

  8. #8 by HJ Angus on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 5:03 pm

    Another Royal Inquiry will not solve the problem if the government does not care about enforcing the recommendations. Remember how the IPCMC was rejected by some police officers.
    Cases like this and TBH and Kugan’s murders would have been probed by the IPCMC. Looks like if we want the IPCMC we need to vote out the Bankrupsi Negara government.

  9. #9 by habis on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 5:16 pm

    Think what you like nobody will ever beleive that two junior officers were capable of arranging to ship out the two jet engines.Any fools will not buy this story except BN govt and AG.They are just made scrape goats to take the rap but in this country of ours Malaysia Boleh and you can even be taught that the world is flat.Anything is possible in our country and this BN govt can make the Impossible possible. You just name it and these brokes will make it possile like the bloated Istana Negara where 400 million becomes 800 million.All these rots got to stop and we the citizens of our beloved country got to stand up together and make sure that no more will the rakyat be fooled by this corrupt BN govt. in the coming 13GE.Together we can make it happen.

  10. #10 by ktteokt on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 5:30 pm

    Habis is absolutely right, anything goes as far as MALAYSIA BOLEH (mati) goes! It takes a fool to believe that two low ranking air force personnel were so capable to ship out such a huge jet engine from an air base! Either they were able to “shrink” the engine to such a tiny size to escape the sentry or the guys manning the sentry must be dozing off.

    Next thing BN government will tell Malaysians is not only the earth is flat but the Sun revolves round the earth together with the moon! Malaysia Boleh? Boleh what? Only MATI lah!

  11. #11 by victimofcorruption on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 5:42 pm

    Jeffrey :
    Torture appears standard operation procedure to extract confession to pin blame on the confessor made to take the fall to shield others higher up from being implicated. This beginning to sound like a routine in the Malaysian Gulag.

    I was wondering too.
    That aside “Nagarajah claimed that two RMAF officers, a Major Azam and a Major Ismail, had beaten and mistreated his son over a period of nearly three weeks from July 2 to 17 last year.”
    I wonder why does it take as long as a year after the torture for this side of story to publicly surface?

  12. #12 by victimofcorruption on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 5:44 pm


    I was wondering too as to why it takes 1 year for this story to be publicised.

  13. #13 by Bigjoe on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 6:46 pm

    One of the curiuos thing I find is this, Hindraf keep saying PR not doing enough for Indian issue but since their protest back in 2008, they have avoided confrontation with the enforcement agencies and only gets loud when its about economic issues. Even on temple issues its PR or NGO that takes the lead.

  14. #14 by boh-liao on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 6:54 pm

    Our uniformed chaps think they r God/Allah
    Polis, immigration officers, armed forces, etc
    Can do anything they wish: beat ppl, molest ppl, demand sex, torture ppl, kill ppl
    Welcome 2 1M’sia, where u suffer until u want (1) 2 die

  15. #15 by donplaypuks on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 7:17 pm


    Leaving aside this horrendous allegation of torture and assault which will have to proven in court, what’s happened to the missing engines?

    The AG spend a lot of taxpayers’ money and time to-ing and fro-ing to Uruguay. But what’s the result or was it all sandiwara to fix a case?

    Meanwhile 14 ex-army personnel including General Hadi are suing the Govt over unfair dismissal over the engine theft fiasco?

    What’s the real story that’s being covered up?

    perhaps you’d care to raise this in parliament and get some straight answers from Rosemajib and the AG?

    we are all of 1 race, the Human race

    we are all of 1 race, the Human Race

  16. #16 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 7:48 pm

    You don’t even treat cows this way.

    Cows are sacred. They give milk and sustenance.

  17. #17 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 7:59 pm

    I don’t think Tharmendran is lying about being forced to wear a crash helmet hit repeatedly by golf club and cricket bat.

    He would be able to concoct the simplicity of such torture.

    When helmet is hit, it generates loud unbearable noise of deafening decibles: he makes one want to faint and vomit or both.

    Its efficiency lies in (a) able to inflict immense pain on the victim (b) muffle victims’ screams to spare torturers and alert people outside the room and (c) leaves no trace of physical torture for forensics to implicate torturers…

    The damage from loss of hearing cannot be seen physically because it happens to delicates nerves in inner ear (Cochlear) blamed to other causes…

    The helmet is an everyday instrument can be found in any place where officers use motor cycles so no one could particularly point a finger to it as a torture instrument. It is relatively cheap to acquire. The golf stick/cricket bat is part of inventory for officers sports recreation.

    Without evidence of visble physical wounds or photographs, existence of crash helmets cricket bat or golf sticks that could be easily explained leave no trace of torture – unless one could retrieve that helmet that shows “names of all his torture subjects, including Tharmendran’s”. The torturers are not that stupid to inscribe/write names in indelible ink!

    By its sheer efficiency and expedience the crash helmet is so efficient a torture instrument that I don’t think N Tharmendran would have the imagination to conceive and fabricate as a false accusation against the air force establishment, if there were no basis.

    The Spanish torturers were first to use it in 1970s; it has since been used elsewhere in Chechnya, Bosnia and other parts. Where a helmet helmet is not available a large pail would do.

  18. #18 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 17 June 2010 - 8:00 pm

    Typo omission in 2nd para – “He would NOT be able to concoct the simplicity of such torture.”

  19. #19 by lopez on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 7:12 am

    bollywood also got this type of stories

    better just knock them cold with samsu ..then no heavy hand and human rights issues…this enonuf to C stars

  20. #20 by undertaker888 on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 7:58 am

    a better torture to get confession is to force their eyes open looking at naked mama ros. Fuweeee …. najibaba and the 40 thieves will then be cleared of any wrongdoing.

    it is always the same storyline. When umno/bn steal and kill, small prawns got stewed and grilled. welcome to bolehland. Truly A-sial.

  21. #21 by lee wee tak_ on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 8:04 am

    this has similarities with teoh beng hock case – impression that confessions are to be obtained via questionable methods, denials and evasion when became public knowledge and I wonder what Hindraf and the Human Rights Party, and not forgetting MIC, have to say about this…a prefect case for their political currency

  22. #22 by dagen on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 8:54 am

    “Think what you like nobody will ever beleive that two junior officers were capable of arranging to ship out the two jet engines” habis.

    Nah. They did it. With their shoulders of course. One at the front and the other at the back, all the way out of RMAF, past the immigration and then across the ocean to S. America.

    Well, we did not swallow the 3m and then 5m carrot jib dangled recently did we? And they expect us to swallow the two-men job story?


  23. #23 by boh-liao on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 10:40 am

    Yeah, serve sergeant Tharmendran n Rajandran Prasad right 4 stealing n selling d two jet engines (so smart!), becoming filthy rich, and then deciding 2 remain in RMAF 2 b caught n tortured (so bodoh!)
    They shld hv resigned n disappeared long ago 2 enjoy their filthy wealth, no common sense 1

  24. #24 by boh-liao on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 11:35 am

    D RM2,000 fine imposed on PKR MP Chua Tian Chang for biting a police officer is enuf 2 disqualify him fr his Batu constituency
    Ha, ha – if he were a BN MP, mayb he got fined RM1,999.90
    2 keep his MP post, he shd jump ship 2 b a BN-friendly MP, then poof his fine will b reduced or EC will decide OK lah no problemo
    Justice 1 M’sia style, who says not fair 1

  25. #25 by HJ Angus on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 11:48 am

    I wonder if that RM2000 fine was a mistake as maybe the judge really did not want to disqualify him as MP as that would mean another buy election. The judge may have erred in the interpretation of the law. After all, I don’t believe that the BN can win this seat.

  26. #26 by HJ Angus on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 11:53 am

    It seems that stealing is par for the game in Malaysia. Just don’t get caught or make sure you steal really on a grand scale.
    It’s like the problem when you borrow from the banks.
    If you borrow RM100k for a house and cannot pay, the bank will repossess but if you borrow RM500mil for a project and are in difficulties, the bank will try and ease your repayment problems.
    For politicans, if you fix the Judiciary and the police, no one can touch you and all you need to do is to give some crumbs to the voters who keep you in power to steal from the nation’s coffers.

  27. #27 by sheriff singh on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 12:22 pm

    See Joseph Pairin Kitingan’s case.

    The man got away.

  28. #28 by boh-liao on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 12:23 pm

    Who is brave enuf 2 say dat BN cannot win Batu
    NR’s approval rate has shot sky high n well praised by racist MMK
    Loh Si Mah is well loved
    PKR is in disarray
    Everything is smooth sailing 4 BN 2 win big

  29. #29 by baochingtian on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 12:24 pm

    What hve MIC and Hindraf to say? MCA? Gerakan? How about the recent international peace and harmony award recipient from bolehland, what has she got to say about this right in front of her homeland?

  30. #30 by sheriff singh on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 12:31 pm

    Appeal lah. What have you got to lose?

    With confused judges like this, no wonder the country is upside down.

  31. #31 by sheriff singh on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 12:46 pm

    ‘I know what you want, you know what I want.’

    RM 300+ million coming Batu’s way.

    Hot dawg!!!!

  32. #32 by dagen on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 12:58 pm

    So the umno gobermen disclosed terrorist connections in selangor and penang between some university students there with osama bin laden’s group.

    Not good. Umno will use this as a reason somehow to exert control over the two states in the name of national security with one predictable end result: wrestle state government from pakatan.

  33. #33 by SENGLANG on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 1:11 pm

    Now BN has to look for money to buy Batu not gold now. With Vincent Tan losing his license so was Bn election fund what a headache for BN.

    People at BAtu is laughing as they have strike a big jackpot

  34. #34 by boh-liao on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 1:39 pm

    BN’s sure-win candidate 4 Batu will b another MIC (deleted) with red hot thick lips smooching, licking n sucking d digits, arms n legs of Moo n other UmnoBputras, while bowing fully below d waist
    Tradition lah!

  35. #35 by boh-liao on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 1:48 pm

    Ironman LKS no need rest 1, oredi on d move, travelled 2 Labuan 4DAP Labuan dinner & ceramah – acting like a young bull full with tongkat, not d type popularised by MMK but Tongkat Ali :)

  36. #36 by Jeffrey on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 2:19 pm

    Batu MP Tian Chua’s sentence for causing hurt to a policeman has already been reduced to RM2,000 by Justice Ghazali Cha.

    According to Article 48 of the Federal Constitution, a lawmaker will be disqualified only if he or she is sentenced to not less than a year’s jail or fined not less than RM2,000 and had not received a pardon.

    For disqualification to be triggered the fine should be “not less than RM2000/-“.

    It is obvious, whether by its ordinary grammatical construction or legal interpretation, the expression “not less than RM2000/-” – if RM2000/- were used as a benchmark for disqualification – will mean up to RM2000/- and not more than that benchmark of RM2000/- and will include the RM2000/- itself and, of course, anything less!

    Tian Chua’s lawyer Amer Hamzah Arshad said they had written to the court to seek clarification from Justice Ghazali Cha, who upheld the sentence, maintaining that his judgment was clear and there was no need for a clarification.

    I agree with the judge that there’s nothing to claify. I don’t understand how Tian Chua’s lawyer Amer Hamzah Arshad interpretes. Its plain English. He’s stirring up the hornet’s nests by asking for further clarification.

  37. #37 by Jeffrey on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 2:35 pm

    One has only to ask what is the bench mark for disqualification? Is it “less than a year’s jail” or “less than RM2000/-“???


    The benchmark is : “NOT” less than a year’s jail” or “NOT” less than RM2000/- fine!

    It means 1 year jail or RM2000 fine is the benchmark. It marks the upper ceiling of benchmark beyond which disqualification will set in. If set as benchmark the permissible punishment before disqualification is triggered will include (and not exclude) the benchmark itself of 1 year jail or RM2000 fine. I thought this would be plain English and comon sense. Maybe some logician can clarify better.

    This means that disqualification kicks in only if punishment is

  38. #38 by boh-liao on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 2:46 pm

    Black eye or blind justice practised in 1M’sia
    A person is charged but he is not given d documents containing d details Y he was charged
    Even d judge dismissed his application, betul ke
    Very scary – like a blind man sent in to box with a killer fighter with good eyes
    D former is killed n d fight is proclaimed by d referee 2 b a fair fight – s h ! t

    Well, Tian C – time 2 say adieu
    “If it’s RM2,000, [Chua’s hopes are] dead. The seat has become vacant. The Federal Constitution clearly states that if it’s RM2,000 or more, you are disqualified. There is no argument about that,” Karpal said.

    Moral of d lesson – PR politicians, DON’T lah simply bite ppl, itchy teeth also must tahan
    One bite, semua boh liao lah, bodoh 1

    But great news 2 Batu residents – BUY BUY election, say TQ 2 Tian C
    NR comes, raining dogs n cats with $$$

  39. #39 by Jeffrey on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 2:55 pm

    ///DAP chairman and lawyer Karpal Singh said that since the judge had fixed the fine at RM2,000, Chua was as good as disqualified. PKR elections director Fuziah Salleh said Chua’s fate had been decided by a “one-sen judgement” for if the RM2,000 fine was reduced by one sen to RM1,999.99, the Batu MP would be let off the hook./// – The MalaysianInsider’s Report by Clara ChooiJune 18, 2010.

    What Karpal Singh/Fuziah Salleh interpreted cannot be right. It is politiking.

    Come on, when one sets a benchmark for disqualification one is setting an upper limit of what is permissible before disqualification sets in – and if that uppermost limit weree set at 1 years jail or RM2000 fine, the limit would include (and not exclude) this ceiling!Like I say its plain English and common sense and there’s no sense in politiking this kind of issue by ultra-strained construction to simple English! Ask NH Chan whether he agrees with them!

  40. #40 by Jeffrey on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 2:58 pm

    If the Judge wanted to fix Tian Chua to be disqualified he can easily impose a fine of RM2,500 – why should he fix at RM2000/-? – whats there to stop the judge?

  41. #41 by HJ Angus on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 3:29 pm

    aahh….Malaysia Boleh.
    Maybe the judge knows this will put the EC on the spot and maybe he wanted to improve the sorry state of Batu. After all, opposition wards are ignored by Bankrupsi Negara government.
    Najib will again give his famous speech.
    Maybe a cheque of RM10k for each voter if they win this round?

  42. #42 by HJ Angus on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 3:31 pm

    I think is said the law is an ass as it makes fools of all of us!

  43. #43 by Jeffrey on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 3:38 pm

    I wish to retract what I commented about Karpal Singh/Fuziah Salleh’s “politiking” as I have since come to know that Karpal relied on the case of Fan Yew Teng versus Setiausaha Dewan Rakyat decided by Justiuce Chang Min Tat way back in 1975 in which it appears the Judge disqualified Fan based on his interpretation of Article 48 of the Federal Constitution.

    Well for the reasons earlier given I would have to now say that Fan Yew Teng versus Setiausaha Dewan Rakya was wrongly decided, that the judge’s interpretation of the wordings there is incorrect, and when that Justice Ghazali Cha (who sentenced Chua with RM2000 fine) imposed the fine he clearly read the wordings of Article 48 correctly and intended by the fine not to disqualify Tian Chua though it might not have been brought to his intention the ultra legalistic interpretation of law laid down by Justice Chang Min Tat over 30 years ago when Fan Yew Teng was disqualified off its Menglembu Seat.
    If Justice Ghazali Cha refuses to amend his sentence – when Tian Chua had already paid the fine – the proper course would be to appeal to higher court to lay down the correct interpretation overruling the 1975 case.

  44. #44 by habis on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 5:53 pm

    `Cut down on overheads` and `overall cost of living in Klang Valley was not high compared with other foreign cities because the govt subsidised daily necessities` so declared our berhormat RajaNong Chik.I for one beg to disagree.Lets compare the lowest paid worker in UK at 50pound/day and an average a Malaysian worker earning $50/day.In UK you can buy a 2lbchicken for 2pound,900gm baby milk powder for 7pound and I can buy a weeks provision for my family for only 30pound.But over here chicken $15, baby milk powder $50.Of course for people like you in the high bracket earning what is there to worry? It is common people like me who know what hardship we are going through with the high cost of living which doesnt comensurate with our stagnant salary.Easier said my friend to forgo this and that but what about the excesses of mismanagement in our country?We are ask to thighten our belts while you ministers fly first class splashes in luxury all paid by the poor rakyat.What more wanting to spend 800million on a new Parliament house when we can do with the existing iconic one.How not our beloved country go bankrupt?It is poor goverance that is robbing the rakyat. Just take a look at our neighbour without
    any natural resouces and how they manage their country.No need for counsellors to go oversea to do study tour and waste the taxpayers money.

  45. #45 by boh-liao on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 6:01 pm

    Plain English? Common sense?
    Who has common sense 2 understand plain English these days, just like ‘First Lady’ term
    Dis is called passing d ball judgement, World Cup lah
    P’reee, d ball is now at feet of EC Chairman, 2 score or not 2 score (controlled by bookies)

  46. #46 by boh-liao on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 6:20 pm

    Raja Nong Chik: Cut down on overheads such as Astro and cars n liveable with RM3,000 a month
    Ai say, no Astro at nite then do what aah? Make love n produce more babies aah?
    Then, need >$$$ 2 pay 4 baby delivery, milk powder, nappies, etc – how aah?
    No car, how aah? Walk aah? Bus, got or not aah?
    Ministers easy 2 talk, cars paid 4 by tax payers, never ever taken bus or LRT b4
    See ppl no rice eat, ask ‘Why not eat hamburgers or cream cakes aah?’

  47. #47 by k1980 on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 7:30 pm

    Raja Nong Chik needs to first show by example that he can feed his entire family on RM3,000 a month. Then only will his advice be appreciated by the public. No use telling people to subsist on RM3,000 a month while he himself splurges RM30,000 a month

  48. #48 by monsterball on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 9:29 pm

    This Raja Nong Chik is talking through his nose.
    Previous Raja Nong Chiks avoided politics…except this one.
    In fact Negri Sembilan royalties all hates politics…just do businesses only…with no strings attached.
    Few Rajas seem to have changed…starting from Perak.
    I wonder why.

  49. #49 by HJ Angus on Friday, 18 June 2010 - 9:36 pm

    Yes I agree we should cut overheads.
    The first thing to cut is the post of Minister of the Federal Territorities as that alone will remove RM100,000 burden from the taxpayers.
    Let the mayors be in charge of the cities and let us elect them to do their jobs properly.

  50. #50 by on cheng on Sunday, 20 June 2010 - 12:14 am

    This engine trial will be another laughing stock for the world to be amused

  51. #51 by lopez on Sunday, 20 June 2010 - 9:42 pm

    it is okay, these fellas are tough fellas, just recalled mana sathi
    imagine if this went through….huh… i dont think his dad would yell like this.

  52. #52 by House Victim on Monday, 21 June 2010 - 12:57 pm

    Jeffrey :

    I wonder why does it take as long as a year after the torture for this side of story to publicly surface?

    Firstly, it needs 3 DAP MP before the father dares to utter.
    Secondly, it needs a good, reliable. affordable Lawyer before it can proceed.
    Thirdly, a lot of merry-go-round by the Police, KUP, AG to “confirm” the victim, he cannot go anywhere via a normal channel but Political assistance from Opposition.

    How long DAP took to consider taking up the case?
    The Lawyer assaulting clients case in Penang was in April 2008. It has passed to the Penang Government via a DAP Assemblyman and government official in 2008. IT WAS NOT EVEN GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PENANG GOVERNMENT!!
    Because the clients were not beaten as a Cow??
    Or, it is not justified for a Government to do so?
    Or, just not politically justified to “assist”?
    Or, it is just some RM20,000 to RM30,000 cases?

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