Najib Countdown – double meaning for “N” in the RAHMAN prophecy

This is countdown time for Datuk Seri Najib Razak – with a week to go to his anointment as UMNO President next Thursday to be followed by his ascension as the sixth Prime Minister of Malaysia in the first few days of April.

What is clear is that Najib’s takeover as Prime Minister of Malaysia will not be on April 1 so that it would not go down in history as “April Fool’s Joke”!

As it is, Najib’s impending takeover as the sixth Prime Minister is sufficiently dogged, hounded and haunted by grave doubts and allegations about his integrity and legitimacy, to the extent that for the first time in the 52-year history of Malaysia, strong objections are being raised publicly about the suitability of the Prime Minister-in-waiting, hardly a fortnight to his ascension to the highest political office in the land – and which is growing stronger by the day.

There are so many so skeptical and cynical about Najib’s suitability, integrity and legitimacy to become the next Prime Minister that they have spawned an increasing chorus of calls to stop Najib from becoming the sixth Prime Minister of Malaysia.

The latest to join this chorus is the former Law Minister, Datuk Zaid Ibrahim, who called on the Yang di Pertuan Agong to reject Najib if UMNO puts him forward as Prime Minister to replace Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and to appoint someone who would “bring us back from the brink”.

There are online campaigns to get Abdullah to remain as Prime Minister even after the UMNO General Assembly next week, not because Abdullah is an effective and successful Prime Minister but because his replacement, Najib, is “evil”.

Although Abdullah’s popularity rating had plunged from a record high of 91 per cent in November 2004 to 61 per cent in January 2008 (just before the March 8, 2008 general election), down to 46 per cent in Dec 2008, he was at all times more popular than Najib, as demonstrated by the following surveys by Merdeka Centre:

Popularity rating Abdullah Najib
Feb 08 62% 45%
March 08 54% 46%
July 08 42% 34%
Sept 08 43% 40%
Oct 08 45% 43%
December 08 46% 41%

I do not think anyone will dispute that if an opinion poll is now conducted, Najib’s popularity would have fallen further even below the lowest point of 34% recorded in July last year, while Abdullah would have improved in his popularity rating.

However, there are others who feel that asking Abdullah to remain as Prime Minister is not the real option and propose that a more suitable candidate should be chosen from the present UMNO ranks, with Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah’s name most often mentioned in this context.

There is of course another scenario, which is for Pakatan Rakyat to replace Barisan Nasional at the federal government, but as the numbers are not present, this option is not really available.

Putting aside for the moment the question as to how real or realistic are these growing rumblings to stop Najib from become the next Prime Minister, the inescapable fact is that such public opposition to a Prime Minister-in-waiting is happening for the first time in the 52-year history of the nation, as was never the case in the nation’s history, whether Tun Razak, Tun Hussein Onn, Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad or Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

In fact, such doubts and objections to Najib taking over as the new Prime Minister seems to growing stronger by the day, the nearer to Najib’s ascension to the highest political office in the land.

This is why Najib’s RM60 billion second economic stimulus package have failed to rally confidence, as he is seen as the most divisive and distrusted Prime Minister-designate, who will not enjoy the customary political honeymoon of “First 100 days” for new Prime Ministers, as his Machiavellian machinations in his pre-100 days, like the undemocratic, unethical, illegal and unconstitutional power grab in Perak, the selective and malicious prosecution of DAP National Chairman Karpal Singh for sedition and the arbitrary and high-handed one-year suspension of DAP MP for Puchong, Gobind Deo Singh without pay and parliamentary privileges, have created widespread concern whether Najib’s ascension as the sixth Prime Minister marks the start of a national nightmare.

This also raises the question whether the “N” in the most famous political prophecy in the country, RAHMAN about the first six Prime Ministers in the country, has a double meaning – that it signifies Najib as Prime Minister after Tunku Abdul Rahman, Razak, Hussein Onn, Mahathir and Abdullah, but it also marks the “end” of the line of Umno Prime Minister, UMNO hegemony and Umno government in the next 13th general election.

(Speech at the DAP Damansara/Paramount Garden Dinner “Moving Selangor Forward” at Damansara Palace, Kota Damansara, Selangor on Thursday, 19th March 2009)

  1. #1 by dawsheng on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 12:19 pm

    Just be prepared for the worst.

  2. #2 by dawsheng on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 12:30 pm

    The only way out of the crisis we are facing is change of government, no more, no less.

  3. #3 by Godfather on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 12:34 pm

    Be afraid… very afraid. This couple is absolutely ruthless when we try to curtail their right to steal.

  4. #4 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 12:42 pm

    April’s Fool or not, Najib is a fool if he does and a fool if he does not!

  5. #5 by monsterball on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 12:53 pm

    R…Rosmah is the beginning of the end of N…..and Najib… is destined to end UMNO’s supremacy in Malaysia politics….by being the most unwanted…..unpopular …..untrusted ….non elected PM.

  6. #6 by homeblogger on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 1:07 pm

    You see Uncle Kit… RPK was talking about People Power and all that in his latest article, but the problem is that you are making speeches, Anwar is making speeches, KuLi is making speeches.

    For what?

    Online, everybody is talking big in their comments and everyone has their own opinions, but it is ALL ONE BIG ROJAK.

    You want to see People Power? Then we need ONE simple purpose, ONE cohesive way we can unite in saying “NO” to Najib and BN.

    We don’t have to demonstrate in a public protest – not everyone is willing to risk BN’s vicious hand and land in Kamunting. But we would be more than willing to participate in other ways. You want people to march in unity for Pakatan? Then you have to help us start with small steps.

    Maybe :

    – Start wearing a button badge that says “Tak Nak najib” or “NO to BN”
    – Wear black on April 02 to signify the mourning for Malaysia
    – Ask bloggers to place “NO to BN” banners on their blogs.
    – Stick a “NO TO NAJIB” bumper sticker on car.
    – Many more ways to unite.

    Okay, I know people can say I can talk so much, why don’t I do something. But you see, THAT is the problem. I am just a simple average Joe struggling with day to day life. I don’t have the influence and resources like you Uncle Kit, or RPK or Karpal. Anything I do will just be adding rubbish to the rojak. But if Pakatan come up with a systematic way for us to voice our unity in saying “NO” to BN, I can add my little resources to ONE united cause.

    Sorry for being so long-winded. I am in despair, feeling powerless to do anything for my beloved Malaysia.

  7. #7 by chengho on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 1:30 pm

    Najib is the leader of the moment
    Rakyat is fed up with a weak leader like AAB
    you need a General to go for war , our war is world economic slowdown , peoples in Beijing already started demo for layoff…
    Bell layoff 5000 peoples in Penang…the best they can offer is sanctuary for tigers

  8. #8 by taiking on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 1:45 pm


  9. #9 by Ken G on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 2:09 pm

    There’s no way to stop Najib becoming PM but he may be the shortest serving PM in Malaysian history. Malaysians are not ready to accept his ham-fisted oppressive actions, corrupt practices and cavalier disregard for public opinion. Trying to pull Malaysia back to the dark ages will not work. Something will have to give.

  10. #10 by mother of three on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 2:11 pm

    Dr Mahathir said that there was nothing in the Federal Constitution which stated that the Umno president must be the prime minister.

    “There is no provision. That is only our arrangement,” he said, adding that legally, the current prime minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi could continue serving his term until the next general election if he wanted to.

    “But of course he may face a vote of no confidence in Parliament… he has a good chance of winning with the support of opposition members but he will become the prime minister of the opposition,” he said.

    Dr Mahathir said opposition members also had votes in Parliament and if they, together with some members of the Barisan Nasional, were to vote for Abdullah, “then he will be the PM.


    If above is possible,are we able to stop Mr.N from becoming the next PM????????????Still hoping for some miracle to happen.

  11. #11 by Godfather on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 2:21 pm

    We reject a leader that is tainted by a murder scandal. We reject a leader that is tainted by a overpriced equipment purchase scandal resulting in RM500 million of commissions to a middleman who happens to be the leader’s confidante and advisor. We reject a leader who allows his wife to go on shopping sprees overseas and hijacks embassy vehicles for such activities.

    Najis is leader FOR the moment, not of the moment. I doubt the eunuch chengho understands the difference.

  12. #12 by AhPek on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 2:22 pm

    The suggestion of homeblogger has merits.Besides these armbands or badges can be easily and speedily manufactured and cost little to finance as well.If it is planned and organised well they can be distributed very quickly too.What do you say YB Lim, do something,anything to make an impact!Let it be known that Najib isn’t the PM we want.The PM that Malaysians want is one who at the very least must not have any of the baggages Najib carries in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS.

  13. #13 by ordell on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 2:39 pm

    +1 for homeblogger’s suggestion.. there’s too much talking and less doing!

  14. #14 by distantmalay on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 2:40 pm

    ” N ” means Not najib, No najib…..

  15. #15 by sheriff singh on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 2:54 pm

    RAHMAN? What does the letter “N” stand for?

    Well, it just means the “N” of the road. You know, “The N”.

    No more. Nix. Nothing. Nope. Nought.

  16. #16 by Ken G on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 3:05 pm

    BN has already lost the 13th G.E. with the path they are taking but what will this corrupt regime do to hold on to power? If they use oppression and tyranny, will Malaysians stand up and claim the country back from the plunderers? Or will Malaysians docilely accept it while the country lurches into another failed state?

  17. #17 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 3:10 pm

    /// chengho Says:
    Today at 13: 30.30 (1 hour ago)
    Najib is the leader of the moment ///

    Indeed, chengo. I hope he is the leader only for a short moment. As the Americans would say, momentarily.
    Let’s hope, for Malaysia’s sake, that the moment only last a few months or days.

  18. #18 by ALLAN THAM on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 3:41 pm

    History of China offer a very good mirror to reflect our self. For reasons that China has a long history and has evolve around many dynasties with difference emperor. Each changes of dynasty bear the same characteristic ie the corruption and the wastefulness of the last emperor from each of the dynasty before the new one taking over.

    Let take the changes of Tang dynasty to Yuan dynasty. Tang dynasty was one of the most prosperous and among the longest one, but its end with the last Tang’s emperor who was corrupt beyond human belief, and most of the officers and ministers were corrupt. While the last emperor indulge in his daily and nightly non stop sex activities he left the governance to his minister who are corrupt beyond repair. Compound with the famine facing by the people during that last few years of Tang dynasty, the ordinary people have suffered enough and the last Tang dynasty was rooted out by a leader come from among ordinary people who was a farmer. That was how the Yuan begin and how the great Tang Dynasty end.

    The above have many resemblance with the political scene in Malaysia at this moment. Those who rules are corrupt and refused to change and has no courage to change. The system has broken down and all system has been corrupted.

    Well, the N in “RAHMAN” prophecy may well be the END of BN rule. The ingredient that cause the N of a dynast was the same, “CORRUPTION”. Prophecy or otherwise but as the saying go, History repeat itself may find its true once more time in Malaysia history.

    Let wait and see, and we need not to wait for any longer.

  19. #19 by ShiokGuy on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 3:43 pm

    My little poll said Najib 1%, RPK 50% and Anwar 34%

    Shiok Guy

  20. #20 by frankyapp on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 3:58 pm

    Hey guys,all kind of talks or any talk about preventing NR to becoming the 6th prime minister is no good. The only power that can do it is the Agong.As the federal constitution does not say that unmo president should be the PM.right .What when the marjority of the citizens request the Agong not to accept NR nomination ? Can that be helpful guys ?

  21. #21 by Godfather on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 4:06 pm


    Let me guess – your 1% comes from a guy who doesn’t understand a whole lot of English and who goes by the name of chengho ?

  22. #22 by homeblogger on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 4:09 pm

    frankyapp Says:
    Today at 15: 58.41 (10 seconds ago)
    …What when the marjority of the citizens request the Agong not to accept NR nomination ? Can that be helpful guys ?


    Thats the whole point of my suggestion above Uncle Kit. You see, we sit and read blog post after blog post, and comment after comment and we feel anger, despair, indignation. And we WANT to do something… but WHAT?

    What if half of Malaysia suddenly sports button badges or black arm-bands as a non-violent and non-verbal rejection of Najib and BN? Wouldn’t the other half of Malaysia take notice? Wouldn’t the Agong himself notice half his rakyat in black arm bands?

  23. #23 by limkamput on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 4:36 pm

    you need a General to go for war , our war is world economic slowdown , peoples in Beijing already started demo for layoff…
    Bell layoff 5000 peoples in Penang…the best they can offer is sanctuary for tigers – eunuch chengho

    Hello eunuch chengho,
    Generals do go to war. They usually sit around, get all the benefits and let others die for them.

    The world economic slowdown? I say, let it be and see how low and how deep it can go. I think the rich and the well connected, having harvested billions are now “talking down” the world economy so that they can get even more from government bailout. Sometimes I wonder what slow down are we talking about when Michael Jackson’s concert tickets are sold out in one hour; when people are still sitting around watching endless rounds of EPL and tennis. The world will never be enough. What we need is proper distribution and new paradigm. The present system is only working for the rich, the politicians and the well-connected. Let the meltdown begin.

  24. #24 by limkamput on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 4:43 pm

    …….it also marks the “end” of the line of Umno Prime Minister, UMNO hegemony and Umno government in the next 13th general election. Kit

    My Dear Sdr Lim,
    Be prepared for the Pyrrhic victory. You may inherit a government that has nothing left.

  25. #25 by taiking on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 4:51 pm

    Allan Tham and his Tang dynasty analogy. Right and wrong. I say. Right because that is how umno will end. The writings are all over the wall. And wrong because umno was never great like Tang Dynasty. Umno was ok in the begining but it got worse with time and now it stinks to high heaven. Yes rotting way past its expiry date now.

  26. #26 by Bobster on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 5:10 pm

    We, rakyat Malaysia will like to make the following DECLARATION:-

    We reject a leader that asking you to adjust your lifestyle when the government failed to control inflation by allowing 60% increase in fuel surcharge.

    We reject a leader that ‘overlooked’ the Eurocopter deal and taxpayers nearly overpaid billions of ringgit. (Reported by PR youth to ACA alleged evidence which showed that Malaysia was reported to have signed a letter of intent to acquire 12 Eurocopter EC 727 Cougar helicopters for a sum of RM2.3 billion while Brazil paid US$1.2 billion for 50 units of the same model which was found to be of a much lower specifications)

    We reject a leader who contributed nothing when he was an Education Minister.

    We reject a leader who told the crowd to soak kris with Chinese blood in 1987.

    We reject a leader who told us country was in good shape no such thing as economy crisis 3 months ago and now making u-turn says GDP +0.1. Still +ve everything should be ok.

    We reject a leader who neglected the overdue Nuri copters that have exceeded the operational lifespan when he was a Defense Minister.

    We reject a leader who remained silence and denial $500 million commission paid to a local agent for army deals for many months before declaring it was true after being pressured in the Parliament.

    We reject a leader who failed to explain why $500 million commission to local agent. What was the breakdown cost to the local agent that Ministry of Defense (or the taxpayers) has to fork out $500 millions? Hey, that’s taxpayers money you know!

    We reject a leader with police report by Sekretariat Anak Muda Malaysia (SAMM) alleged him for corruption and the trial of his closest adviser Razak Baginda of the murder of Altantuya, who was one of the alleged beneficiaries of the large commissions

    We reject a leader whose name was mentioned by witnesses in court from the cousin of the victim to the accused PI.

    We reject a leader who consistently giving contradictory statements eg his involvement with Saifun Bukhari ie DSAI accuser over the past months. How can the rakyat put our trust and future of the country with a person of such character to be the next PM? Imaging the PM-to-be giving statement in court, twisting and turning, the judge would have thrown him out from the next session onward!

    We reject a leader who has been accused with Statutory Declaration that an offer of RM50 million to initiate cross over after 308. (Hey, the accuser dares to put his head on the chopping board if he was lying, what more should we add?)

    We reject a leader who headed the biggest robbery in the state of Perak from the voters not thru fresh election but thru frogs ejection!

    Goodbye Malaysia, kami anak Malaysia menangis untuk mu!

  27. #27 by Bobster on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 5:20 pm

    We reject a leader who started National Service purportedly to cultivate friendship between races but at the same time wasting taxpayers money funding Biro Tata Negara to breakup the nation.

  28. #28 by KennyGan on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 6:15 pm

    frankyapp Says:
    Today at 15: 58.41 (10 seconds ago)
    …What when the marjority of the citizens request the Agong not to accept NR nomination ? Can that be helpful guys ?

    I’m afraid that won’t be helpful. The Agung is obliged to appoint one who commands the confidence of the majority of the Assembly (Parliament). he does not have absolute discretion.

    The most the Agung can do is to request that a vote of confidence on Najib be taken. If it passes, he has no choice. It’s almost sure to pass as BN MPs are all lapdogs.

    The only way to forestall Najib’s appointment is if Badawi refuses to resign. He cannot be sacked by his party or the Agung. The only way to force him down is to pass a vote of no confidence against him which is unlikely to pass with the opposition backing him. It will only require 30 MPs from BN supporting Badawi to defeat the motion.

    However as Badawi has no intention of staying on, Najib cannot be stopped.

  29. #29 by KennyGan on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 6:26 pm

    YB Kit,

    As Najib cannot be stopped I suggest that Pakatan Rakyat organize a huge symbolic protest on the day he is sworn in.

    What I have in mind is a general work boycott to show the citizen’s disapproval of Najib. It will be a powerful message to Najib and his cohorts if the whole country quietens down on a working day, a warning to him not to go too far.

    This is a protest that everybody can participate without fear or risk. No road blocks, FRU or water cannons can disrupt it. Nobody will be arrested and charged for it.

    Such a protest has been used successfully in other countries. There will be one day’s loss in productivity but what is the price of our democratic rights?

  30. #30 by winc on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 6:26 pm

    chengho Says:

    Today at 13: 30.30 (4 hours ago)
    Najib is the leader of the moment
    Rakyat is fed up with a weak leader like AAB
    you need a General to go for war , our war is world economic slowdown , peoples in Beijing already started demo for layoff…
    Bell layoff 5000 peoples in Penang…the best they can offer is sanctuary for tigers


    I thought it was pretty recent that your leader was saying that Malaysia economy is still resilient.
    Now layoff problem…. now economy problem. So which is which? You are confusing me or was it your leader who was confused? Now do we have econ problem or not?

  31. #31 by despin on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 6:26 pm

    The fun may not stop at N. After next week, his deputy might be a guy who could not read, write or understand English.

    Every misstep by these jokers is a giant stride for PR. Be patient.

  32. #32 by boh-liao on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 6:45 pm

    Every VIP Umnoputra comes with a big bag or cupboard. Money? Skeletons?

    As TDM said, the one after NR may be the one who was given the opportunity to study English but failed miserably to pick up the language, and who walked around downunder with large bags of cash.

    Malaysia truly boleh!

  33. #33 by ALLAN THAM on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 7:50 pm

    He might be destiny to lead but at the same time the other half also destiny to destroy this man. It was clear that the negative force is working no only outside it is actually within and some one sho is near him that will destroy him.

    The peculiar about this man was that he was weak due to the other half and the second half have great negative influence over him.

    Remember the Rule by behind the curtain during the last emperor of China. If he take over, this may be the likely sense, if not it will not be far away. Some one it greatly influencing him and this influence are all negative.

    The external factor also not good for him as the corruption has beyond repair within UMNO. All have not will power to effect change. N is the END indeed.

  34. #34 by vsp on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 9:41 pm

    And don’t forget about the Limbang faux-pas about Brunei renouncing its claim as declared by Abdullah Badawi. Now it is proven that the UMNOputra-led government cannot be trusted over international dealings. Lies and twisting of facts are the hallmarks of UMNO. Remember the Batu Putih case: they fought the case using false evidences and was KOed by the Singaporeans. To cover their incompetence they declared that it was a win-win situation.

    What is very worrying to Malaysians now is that the UMNOputras seem to behave as if they were gods and they can turn white into black and black into white. They simply don’t feel the shame that they have done so much criminal damage to the country.

    With such blatant display of arrogance and criminality, they are now trying to justify their actions by hijacking Allah himself. Allah is now confined to a gilded cage. First non-Muslims will be prohibited from recognizing that Allah is a just, merciful and loving God. They have not even insulted Allah but have made known that Allah is the all-mighty God and yet the Hadharists have declared that they are the only people who would own God. Next even Muslims themselves would one day be prohibited from using the word “Allah” unless they are Hadhari-certified. Since the word “Allah” is being copyrighted by the Hadharists, it follows that all the attributes of God would also be the copyrighted properties of the Hadharists. Anyone, other than the Hadharists, claiming the rights of justice, mercy, truth and love will be denied.

    Such is the evil of this deviationist face of the Hadharist’s Islam that the country is now sliding fast into an abyss of hopelessness and despair.

    Beware the rise of the man with the pinkish, piggish lip with a dash of evil smirk; roving eyes for illicit adventure; rosy cheeks that all makciks would love to deface; and a forehead with the stamp of “666”. Malaysia is now in dire straits!

  35. #35 by shamshul anuar on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 10:08 pm

    DEar Godfather,

    Yes we should reject leader who is proven to be a murderer. Proven. Who is it who initially said about Najib and aLtantuya? Oh Anwar. No wonder. This master of deception do it. For obvious reason of course.

    What better way to deflect the problem than by putting the accusation on the political opponent. I wonder why Anwar simply refuses to swear by the Holy Kuran as per Islamic tradition? Why? What is he afraid of.

    The problem plagued the Malay community is apty reminded by the Kuran. when someone brings a news to you, please investigate before believing it or not believing it. It is mentioned as ‘Orang-orang fasik yang bawa khabar berita…” Anwar is of course an example of “orang fasik”.

    Muslims are reminded that Islam abhors “fitnah”. Muslims know this verse very well. But sadly to say they “thrive “on it. They pick and choose what they want to believe. Not only many are involved in slander , they create more juicy stories to nail their opponent.

  36. #36 by aiD_kamikuP on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 10:23 pm

    Come 7 nights after the crowning of The Prime April Fool, I wonder what would be the real life meaning of ‘Dua Bukit Satu Batang’ for Ms RosHam and Mr PinkLips. Is it to be a victory to complete the ‘N’th letter of the prophecy or jest in name – dua bukit satu batang to share between them?

  37. #37 by undergrad2 on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 10:38 pm


  38. #38 by limkamput on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 10:48 pm


  39. #39 by Godfather on Friday, 20 March 2009 - 11:51 pm

    Shamsul Anuar:

    The problem with you UMNOputras is that you think your command of English is good, when it is in fact inferior. I never said that a certain leader is a proven murderer. I only said that he is tainted by a murder scandal.

    I believe in the rule of law, where everyone – accused and accuser – is given enough leeway to prove or disprove his/her case. What your masters have done is to sweep everything under the carpet when the evidence cries for a more thorough and independent investigation. If your master is not involved in the cover-up of Altantuya’s murder, then why the need to “block” investigations or enquiries ? Why the hurry to put two scapegoats who have no motive to do what the prosecutor is saying that they did ?

    Yes, fitnah is a sin, but so is telling lies and covering up for people who have committed criminal acts. The Quran is very clear on this, right ?

  40. #40 by wanderer on Saturday, 21 March 2009 - 12:25 am

    If the PM in waiting has the galls, call for a fresh GE. Let the people decide if he is fit to be a PM. If BN has the majority, Najib would then, silence the opposition once and for all…if he took the cowardice way to come in from the back door, he is not worth two cents…even his late father will not rest in peace.
    To my BN supporters here, talking big and hiding behind the tainted Institutions is not an honorable way to achieve greatness. NO GUTS, NO GLORY!

  41. #41 by undergrad2 on Saturday, 21 March 2009 - 2:42 am


  42. #42 by undergrad2 on Saturday, 21 March 2009 - 3:02 am

    “The Quran is very clear on this, right ?” GODFATHER

    Ask Limkaput. He knows the Quran.

    He is familiar with sura 17 which tells of God telling Muhammad to make the journey from the temple of Mecca to the “farther temple whose surroundings we have blessed.” While Muhammad was sleeping at the Ka’ba, the angel Gabriel woke him and mounted him on the miraculous beast Buraq, who carried him to Jerusalem. There he met and prayed with “God’s friend Abraham” as well as Moses, Jesus and other prophets. A ladder appeared and Muhammad ascended to heaven.

    In heaven, Muhammad once again met various prophets, including Moses, “a man of dark color, great build, and a crooked nose.”

  43. #43 by limkamput on Saturday, 21 March 2009 - 9:03 am

    This was what the 101 undergrad wrote on 18 March:

    Issues dealing with interpretation of the laws are never easy but rest assured he will find a way. Do you really think judges in every case listen to the facts and the evidence and then apply the law to the facts and arrive at their judgment? No. They don’t always do. In cases like this they first form their judgment and then find the legal reasoning to support it. This explains why the reasoning is sometimes so convoluted.

    Now you tell me why judges and lawyers are not wasters of oxygen! Didn’t I tell you long ago, even before March 8, in our numerous debates that political problems require political solutions, not your stupid courts and laws?

    How much have you milked so far from international organisations that continue to live lavishly (something like AIG) at the expense of the world poor? You master “leverager”.

  44. #44 by Godfather on Saturday, 21 March 2009 - 9:23 am

    Shamshul Anuar:

    If your political master has nothing to hide, then he should simply commission a RCI to look into (a) the movements of the RM500 million in commissions on the submarine deal (b) the deletion of certain immigration records (c) the sms correspondence between Razak Baginda and Najis (d) the instructions given by unnamed parties to Musa Safri and (e) the movements of Razak Baginda, Najis and Altantuya during the period of the negotiation of the submarine deal.

    With the shameful acts of the Ipoh Judicial Commissioner having been reversed by the court of appeal, who on earth would trust the judicial system to try fairly and transparently the two policemen accused of murdering Altantuya ?

    Your political master would gain tremendous mileage if the entire sorry episode is subject to a RCI and especially if he has nothing to hide. Boleh ke ?

  45. #45 by ktteokt on Saturday, 21 March 2009 - 9:31 am

    Let us not be excited over Najis becoming the next PM of Malaysia as it is very obvious that he is incapable, unsuitable and non-durable. His term as PM will be the shortest in Malaysian history and he will mark the end of BN rule of Malaysia. Let UMNO enjoy all it can while it still can! The next GE is going to be a combination of typhoon, hurricane, earthquake and tsunami for BN, which will sweep it out of Malaysia and possible away from the surface of the Earth! Hidup Malaysia! Hidup Rakyat!!

  46. #46 by dapsupporter8888 on Saturday, 21 March 2009 - 11:32 am

    The UMNO & BN morons are a bunch of hopeless people. They have been talking nonsense day in day out.

    I am FED UP. Malaysians are FED UP.

    EVERY OTHER DAY, for the past 1 year, since the 12th GE, they have been playing dirty politics and harping on non-essential issues, e.g. ban on yoga, Melayu this and Melayu that, making issues about teaching science and maths in english, ban on using a certain word in a particular religion, illegal and unconstitutional power grab in Perak, putting the opposition in bad light, bringing down some people’s political career, etc… and the list goes on and on.

    These UMNO morons does not seem to be interested in governing this country. They’d rather focus on all this non-value added matters than to work hard to revive this country which seems to be going on a downward trend in everything – politically, economically and socially.

    Passing stupid remarks which is clearly insulting our intelligence.

    The most recent statement from our stupid PM-to-be is that “No individual and corporate tax cut. We need the money”. Need what money??? There are lots of money being cut from our salary for payment of tax to this stupid government which was obviously not efficiently managed due to corruption and all. Once upon a time, we used to be better than Vietnam. Soon, Vietnam is going to be well ahead of us.

    I can’t wait for the next GE. I hope Malaysians all will wake up from their dream and stop voting for BN. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. My patience is nearing its limit.

    I have stopped reading the government-controlled newspaper and stopped watching the TV news altogether. My blood boils above 100 degrees everytime I hear TV3 news.

  47. #47 by blablowbla on Saturday, 21 March 2009 - 11:39 am






    so,from the very beginning,it was “AAHMA”,it has nothing to do with the word “RAHMAN”,so what is the issue?

    and,you thinh Najib can be the PM?not really!

  48. #48 by undergrad2 on Saturday, 21 March 2009 - 9:08 pm

    “Now you tell me why judges and lawyers are not wasters of oxygen! Didn’t I tell you long ago, even before March 8, in our numerous debates that political problems require political solutions, not your stupid courts and laws?” Limkaput

    For someone who thinks that since our car breaks down, and therefore we should stop manufacturing cars and go about swinging from tree to tree, you gotta be thick – very thick.

    Freedom of speech is a fundamental issue – a political issue. Politicians campaign on it, wining or losing elections based on their stand on this one political issue. It is the subject of Article 10 of the country’s constitution. It is the law.

    When you’re caught with your pants down going about your business in the back streets of Kg. Attap, and dragged screaming and kicking to the Jln Bandar Police Station, you’ll be the first to scream foul, asking that you be allowed to talk to your lawyer. Or would you rather wait until the next five years when Malaysians go to the polls? Even if PR takes over, since Article 3 is law they cannot legalize the world’s oldest profession. Freedom of speech does not include pulling your pants down in public.

    Simply saying the Agong can be sued is not seditious at common law. But then in Malaysia, the common law on sedition has been modified by statute which apparently deems such remarks as seditious. Is Karpal Singh supposed to rot in jail and wait until PR takes over the government??

    Who can blame if readers label you retarded?

  49. #49 by anna brella on Sunday, 22 March 2009 - 12:18 am

    “Najib is the leader of the moment”.

    “Najis is leader FOR the moment, not of the moment.”

    Sorry, I beg to differ.

    My view is that Najib Razak was never ever, is not now and never ever will be a “Malaysian LEADER”. Exactly like that other fake/non-leader who everyone thought was one too for those twenty two long, extremely destructive years to the fledgling democratic nation’s social fabric.

    “Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.

  50. #50 by anna brella on Sunday, 22 March 2009 - 12:33 am

    Sorry, I’d like to change the bit ….who everyone thought was…. in my posting made at 18.50 to: ….who many Malaysians thought was…

    “Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.

  51. #51 by katdog on Sunday, 22 March 2009 - 10:26 pm

    Malaysia’s political leadership is in serious crisis. I am not talking just about BN not having any capable leaders at all. But similar on the PR side there is a lack of good leaders.

    There are some good leaders in PR but not enough to fill all the positions. Which is why i believe it is a good thing PR doesn’t immediately take over the country.

    For example, look at what happened recently to Fairus the DCM of Penang. Clearly not a capable person at all. Plus some of the dumb projects proposed by PR. Example a new airport in Perak (when the old one was already a failure). Recently i heard of some funny plans to set up a Tiger park in Penang. What a riot! Tourists ain’t gonna come to Penang for a Tiger Park. They gonna come for the beaches. Clean up the beaches. Not build a dumb tiger park.

    PR needs to really get down to basics and seriously groom better planners/strategists/economists before i would seriously say they are ready to take over the country. If not they will just end up no better than BN.

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