Come one, come all – let’s teach the two sexist BN MPs a lesson!

Public Forum Respect Women’s Dignity, Towards A 1st World Parliament

Speakers –

1. Ambiga Sreenevasan – Bar Council President
2. Maria Chin bte Abdullah – Executive Director of Women Development
Collective (WDC)
3. Zainah Anwar – Executive Director of Sisters in Islam
4. Azmin Ali — Vice President, PKR
5. Lim Guan Eng – Secretary-General, DAP
6. Lim Kit Siang – Parliamentary Opposition Leader
7. Teresa Kok Suh Sim – MP for Seputeh
8. Fong Po Kuan – MP for Batu Gajah
(Chair – Tony Pua)

Date: 17 May 2007 (Thursday)
Time: 7.30pm
Venue: YMCA Hall, Kuala Lumpur.
No.95, Jalan Padang Belia, Off Jalan Tun Sambanthan, 50470 Kuala Lumpur
(Opposite of the KL SENTRAL Station)

Why the forum? Explanation of organisers:

Parliament has failed in its duty to the nation and people, in particular Malaysian women. It has shirked its responsibility to redeem itself and punish the two sexist BN MPs who have brought shame and dishonour to Parliament by the use of derogatory, crude, vulgar, sexist and gender-offensive attack on Sdri Fong Po Kuan and all Malaysian women on Wednesday, 9th May.

“Since Parliament is not prepared to do what it should do to redeem its honour and those of Malaysian women and the nation, it is now up to the ordinary Malaysian public to do what Members of Parliament and Ministers have failed to do — by making their condemnation of the sexist conduct of the two BN MPs loud and clear to the Prime Minister, the Cabinet and the country!”


Meanwile sample some of the the editorials and comments in the media:

1. NST Online

Editorial: Offensive language

SUCH apparently was the extent of the commotion generated by the debate over the leaks at the entrance of the media centre at parliament that many members of parliament were not aware of the alleged sexist remarks made in the Dewan Rakyat on Wednesday until it was brought to their attention by press reports on the matter.

However, the attempt to refer the offending backbenchers to the Privileges Committee has failed. In ruling against the motion, Speaker Tan Sri Ramli Ngah Talib has cited the standing orders which make it “clear” that such matters should be raised “immediately” after such words were uttered.

Contrary to the assertion of Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz, who did not find the words offensive, what is or is not deemed parliamentary language is not up to the listeners to decide. It is up to the presiding officials to intervene when the language used in parliament is questionable, or to rule on the matter when it is brought to their attention by any member of parliament who feels aggrieved by such remarks. In this case, since the Speaker has ruled that no action can be taken, the matter can be considered closed. Nevertheless, the Speaker’s expression of “regret” over the incident and his admonition to members of parliament to be “careful with the words they use” suggest that the language used has been questionable. While the Speaker is well within his rights, it is a matter of some regret that the offending members have been left off the hook because of a mere technicality.

In a sense, Nazri is quite right. Ultimately, it would be the people who sent the representatives to the highest institution in the land who would judge what is and what is not unparliamentary conduct. And they might not be as forgiving as the Speaker. Many will feel a sense of outrage that those who speak on their behalf could be capable of such crass and crude language. Such disparaging expressions are a direct affront to millions of Malaysian women. Such open contempt of women is disgusting and perverse. Comments that degrade women will never be funny. There is no room in the Dewan Rakyat for foul language, racism or sexism. Parliamentarians should learn to keep a civil tongue even in the most fiery of exchanges. Whatever the provocation, they should behave like serious and responsible legislators. There is a need to draw a line and prevent parliamentarians from making derogatory remarks about women and bringing parliament into disrepute.

2. Opinion
Sunday May 13, 2007

There they go again

It’s amazing how our lawmakers who repeatedly display political cockiness, make sexist remarks and behave in an uncouth manner can still get themselves re-elected.

THERE he goes again with his looney tunes. The incorrigible Kinabatangan MP Datuk Bung Mokhtar Radin has once again infuriated most Malaysians with another of his off-colour remarks.

The loud Sabah politician, who has a notorious reputation for using un-parliamentary language, created Malaysian parliamentary history when he uttered a four-letter word against a DAP woman six years ago.

The microphones of all MPs had to be switched off by the Speaker in the heat of the debate but Mokhtar’s profanity was loud enough for other members and reporters to hear. He must be proud of his record.

Strangely, the Hansard, which records the House meetings in verbatim, has no record of the outburst during the debate. Things would have remained that way until the media approached Bung Mokhtar in the lobby and, to their surprise, he admitted the deed and went on to defend himself on record.

Before that, the MP sparked a controversy when he uttered a sexist-tainted boleh masuk sikit? (Can I come in a little?) remark in his attempt to seek clarification from Bukit Mertajam MP Chong Eng.

As expected, he said he meant no harm and that the phrase was commonly used in Sabah.

Last week, Bung Mokhtar was back in the limelight again but this time he was joined by the “close one eye” Jasin MP Datuk Mohd Said Yusuf, who once accused certain top Customs officials of selling confiscated luxury cars cheaply to their “friends” in the palaces and other government departments but failed to produce any evidence.

On Wednesday, Bung Mokhtar reportedly said: “Mana ada bocor, Batu Gajah pun tiap-tiap bulan bocor juga (Where is the leak? Batu Gajah leaks every month too) against Batu Gajah MP Fong Poh Kuan who had complained about the leaks in the Parliament lobby.

An angry Fong proposed to refer Mohd Said, the MP for Jasin, and Bung Mokhtar, to the Rights and Privileges Committee, saying that the remarks were insulting and derogatory to women.

A motion by the DAP MP to refer the two MPs to the panel was rejected by Speaker Tan Sri Ramli Ngah Talib on a technicality, saying Fong had filed the motion a day later. In short, the two BN MPs were let off the hook.

But what was more frustrating was the lame defence put up by some backbenchers.

Tangga Batu MP Datuk Idris Haron said Fong should not see the remark as a gender issue and accused her of using it to get publicity, saying “we should take them as a joke, not as a personal attack”.

Petrajaya MP Fadzillah Yusuf said the statement never intended to humiliate women, adding: “I think he just said it as he was provoked.”

Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz also came to the two MPs’ rescue, saying he did not find the choice of words used to be offensive and that it was normal to play with words.

This must surely be a case of partisan politics going overboard. What Bung Mokhtar and Mohd Said said was not just impolite but appalling. As politicians with the Yang Berhormat (The Right Honourable) title, should they not have acted in a more honourable and gentlemanly manner?

Bung Mokhtar could be forgiven if he had made the remark for the first time, particularly during a heated debate, but this man has a pretty poor record when it comes to parliamentary debate. We expect our lawmakers to articulate their views without having to shout, much less shout profanities and make sexist remarks.

It is better for our politicians not to use the honorific YB if they cannot live up to the expectations of the rakyat as role models. Not many of us expect our lawmakers to speak like Tony Blair or Bill Clinton but the least they could do is to exercise some restraint when debating issues affecting the people and the nation.

In 2000, Datuk Mohamed Aziz (BN — Sri Gading) touched a raw nerve when he started his speech saying: “It is unusual for women’s issues to be touched (raised) by men,” and after a pause, he added, “but women are supposed to be touched by men.”

When Bung Mokhtar asked why single woman found it hard to remarry, Mohamed replied that it was generally due to their not-so-favourable age, adding that “men, when it comes to younger women, they will definitely drool”.

Last year, Bung Mokhtar, in a heated debate with Karpal Singh (DAP-Jelutong) shouted: “You should keep quiet. It’s a lucky thing that you are in a wheelchair. You almost died once (in an accident).” The DAP leader had earlier criticised Bung Mokhtar: “Dia otak tak centre (the MP is insane).”

The Opposition also has its share of ugly MPs who are afflicted with the foot-in-the-mouth disease.

The PAS MP for Rantau Panjang Abdul Fatah Harun made headlines last year when he labelled divorcees as gatal (randy) and went on to say it was not a sexist remark.

Malaysians had never heard of this unknown MP until he asked in the Dewan Rakyat whether some women who divorced their husbands were more intent on getting separated. He claimed these single mothers did not look like they were sad about their divorce.

Abdul Fatah said he based this on his observation at gatherings and parties, and the impression was that these women were gatal. He went on to say that it was quite obvious why these women ended up divorced or why their husbands left them.

Really, some of our lawmakers never cease to amaze us, especially Bung Mokhtar and Mohamed Aziz. Despite repeatedly displaying political cockiness and being uncouth, they still get themselves re-elected.

Malaysians have been spared from the physical drama which Taiwanese lawmakers are notorious for but we must end the name calling, the sexual innuendoes, intimidation, subtle threats and racist remarks that are often displayed at every Parliament session.

The Sun today has a strong and eloquent editorial on this issue, “Dewan must purge itself of sexist remarks”.

3. SPEAK UP! :: theSun Says

Dewan must purge itself of sexist remarks

After years of a silent revolution that fostered a change in attitudes and caused people to be conscious of the language they use when talking to and with different people and in different situations, it should come as no surprise at all that there are still some graceless Calibans in our midst.

But there is no doubt that like the dinosaurs of yore, they, including those in our legislatures, are on their way to becoming extinct. The overriding concern of the ongoing change is the usage of correct and proper language, a language purged of sexist, racist and politically incorrect remarks and innuendos.

It was a gradual revolution which began soon after women started joining the workforce in large numbers – in factories, offices and universities – and gaining admittance to men-only and members-only preserves such as clubs and other public places.

The Anita Hill incident in the US, no doubt, gave the revolution a boost, after it brought the debate of what constitutes sexual harassment to centre stage. It triggered off behaviourial and language changes in most civilised societies across the globe.

It wasn’t just the men who changed, women changed too, especially in a society where public life had always been male-dominated. It has just taken off in Malaysia.

It would have helped the cause had the MPs who made sexist remarks about a female fellow lawmaker last week in the august Dewan Rakyat were disciplined.

The disciplining of the two MPs would have sent a powerful message to the other legislators that the days when members were almost uncensured when they make sexist remarks and innuendos in the Dewan Rakyat are over.

It would also tell Malaysians that they have to mind their language and that the days when sexist remarks and jokes were tolerated are over. At the same time, it would have hastened the development and spread of a politically correct culture among Malaysians.

But even though the Speaker of the Dewan Rakyat did not rule that the two MPs be referred to the Committee of Privileges, the fact that he hesitated by as much as four hours before ruling in their favour is time enough for them to feel a sense of regret at what they had done.

Thus, even though they were not disciplined, it is hoped that the long and agonising four-hour wait was enough to deter them and other colleagues from making similar remarks in the future.

  1. #1 by negarawan on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 9:52 am

    In the Star today:

    Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said the remarks were not supposed to be taken seriously and that there were certain parties out to make a big deal of the issue.

    This guy is not fit to be a DPM!

  2. #2 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 9:55 am

    They are first Members of Parliament and duly elected representatives and only second are BN MPs. What has the fact that they are BN MPs got to do with their bad behaviour??

    They should have been censored for their bad behaviour in Parliament when the Opposition first heard them. When the Speaker ruled that the time for moving the motion has passed, we should accept it and move on – instead of sulking and screaming in retaliation.

    Let’s take care of business.

  3. #3 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 10:04 am

    He jests at wounds that never felt a cut.

    It will be wonderful to hear the panel, particularly the womenfolk among them, articulate their perspectives on the matter.

    All the Klang valley folks should congregate at YMCA not just to listen to a calm and rational discourse on the matter but also to show solidarity and outrage at such rampant and rambunctious display of disgusting behaviour towards womenfolk.

  4. #4 by Taiko on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 10:44 am

    Too bad I’m in Xinshan so I can’t join the forum. But I would like to render my support to the move to censure the third class mentality MPs.

    One is a well-known close-one-eye MP. I don’t know how he could still remain in his seat and hold on to his post. If he’s in other countries, he would have been probed of corruption and punished for his sexist remark.

  5. #5 by negarawan on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 10:58 am

    In the Star today, we see a display of hypocrisy among BN women ministers, who did not utter a word of protest during the parliament sitting when the humiliating remarks were made, but a week later. Another case of doing too little too late by BN. Also we see the DPM saying the remarks were not supposed to be taken seriously and that there were certain parties out to make a big deal of the issue. He’s not fit to be a DPM!

  6. #6 by FuturePolitician on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 11:25 am

    just spoke to a young chap from trengganu, well mannered mix parentage malay guy. He has mix parentage chinese and thai, he is a malay but really well manner, well spoken english and surviving in our harst business environment.

    He said that he cant get into Petronas due to many resistance of new comer into the old school of Petronas.

    He has vision of Malaysia being a world class nation. When i told him about some racist remarks made by an MP saying that “Malaysia is a Islamic country and those whom doesnt like it can leave”. He said that he is surprised that such utter nonsense can come out from a MP. He said Malaysia is a nation of all race and various culture, and what he said will offend many other races which isnt good for the country. He is only 26 and he doesnt realize what is going on to our country and many young generation will not know this until it is too late.

    I believe that those whom without a vision of unity MUST not be allow to be a representative of the people, for those will destroy our country.

    Even we are considered an industrialized nation and a developed country, our progress has been stagnant over the years, especially in the technological sector.

    Punish those whom utter nonsense and making racist and sensely remarks, punish those whom cant debate and discuss on real problematic issues and vision the country as ONE NATION, punish those whom make vulgar remark on the sexuality of human being. We no more living in a coconut shell, the world is watching..DONT make Malaysia into a nation of FOOLS!

    In the next election , VOTE me! There will be changes for the good of the Nation.

  7. #7 by democrate on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 11:40 am

    # Another case of doing too little too late by BN. Also we see the DPM saying the remarks were not supposed to be taken seriously and that there were certain parties out to make a big deal of the issue. He’s not fit to be a DPM!#
    If this remarks is pointing direct to DPM wife or daughther, I guess he will not say such thing in the media. he might raise his kris again!

  8. #8 by Toyol on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 11:59 am

    The PM is powerless to reprimand his staff, despite the fact that they are making a monkey out of him! Never before has our country been a witness to such shameful behaviour from our leaders. These are the same people who ask us to fly the jalur gemilang to show our patriotism!!! Do they know what leadership is all about?

    BN women are the worst hypocrites of all. Despite the raunceous remarks made, they sit quitely pretending nothing has happened, just because the remarks were targeted at opposition members. They can’t tell right from wrong anymore. Are these the leaders we want to guide us to the next level? Lets be real. At this pace, we will get nowhere while our third world neighbours will surely overtake us in the economic arena.

    Parliament is the place where our elected leaders come together to find solutions to our problems…not to raise seditious remarks and expect to get away with it. Parliament in Malaysia has become a joke globally. It is a sad day for all Malaysia.

  9. #9 by sheriff singh on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 12:39 pm

    Both MPs remain unrepentant. One of them, Jasin, said yesterday that “bocor” can also mean “urinate”.

    I wonder just how our PM can be “satisfied” with the performances of his MPs and Assemblymen, most of whom are crude, lacking in intellect and finesse.

  10. #10 by grace on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 12:52 pm

    Bung Mokhtar and Said just go on to show the failure of his parents to educte him. It reflects poorly of his upbringing.
    By issuing such statement, they showed no respect to their MOTHERS, SISTERS and WIVES!!!


  11. #11 by Boneka on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 1:59 pm

    Having this forum is not going to make the two guys to apologise to all the women, especially to MP Fong. It takes men of principles to do so, which are lacking in these two “low-down mentality” guys. What is more sickening is that the Speaker who had obviously heard the unparliamentary language did not stop them! Besides, the whole BN backed them (including all the women MPs) with their silence! With more than 90% in parliament, what can you guys do but “bark at the moon”. What alternative do we voters have? Where is the united Opposition to vote for? PROVIDE US WITH ONE!

  12. #12 by tokmoh on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 2:03 pm

    democrate Says:
    May 15th, 2007 at 11:40 am

    # Another case of doing too little too late by BN. Also we see the DPM saying the remarks were not supposed to be taken seriously and that there were certain parties out to make a big deal of the issue. He’s not fit to be a DPM!#
    If this remarks is pointing direct to DPM wife or daughther, I guess he will not say such thing in the media. he might raise his kris again!
    Well, aren’t he among the 1st few who responded enthusiastically when LKY made a remark abt Msian Chinese being systematically m****nalised? Solid proof he’s a biased, unproffessional turd.

  13. #13 by Counterpoint on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 2:07 pm

    Najib was caught on TV cameras yesterday saying that those comments were made with a sense of humour and all but blown out of proportion and was totally uncommitted to make any comments about taking any action. I really don’t know how he got to become a DPM when he totally lacks any initiative nor leadership to properly address those snide remarks that had offended a lot of women. The kind of blind brother-brother camaraderie among these bigots are a real comptemptible sight !

  14. #14 by smeagroo on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 2:23 pm

    Pls extend an invitation to their respective mothers, wives, daughters and sisters.

  15. #15 by crosstalk on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 2:27 pm

    Even the top leader of the state is so biased and unprincipled,what can we citizens especially the non bumi expect for our future?

    The two MCPs look grandfatherly but say things that were so unbecoming even for grandfathers.Then what about in their capacity as YB,Datuk etc.Real shame,shame,shame.

  16. #16 by Jonny on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 2:42 pm

    they’re up there just to make easy money from the rakyat. Skim komisen cepat kaya.

  17. #17 by siewkwaiyin on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 3:09 pm

    These two unrepentent [deleted] must be sacked forthwith. They have defiled the sanctity of Parliament by their most despicable behaviour. Malaysians have enough of such nonsense. If they are let off again this time, it will only serve to embolden them to do something more disgraceful. [deleted] Let’s get rid of him once and for all.

    I concur with Negarawan. The DPM is not fit to hold his present post let alone be the next PM. His comment is a big disappointment to the women of this country.

  18. #18 by Libra2 on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 3:22 pm

    May I know why women MPs from the BN were not invited to sit on the panel of speakers at the forum. It’s not too late. Please invite one of them.

  19. #19 by ahkok1982 on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 3:46 pm

    sorry uncle kit, would like to attend to support you but 7-hour flight away from home (or used to be home).
    to me, those two are no better than the fathers and grandfathers who rape their own children or grandchildren. worse than animals.

  20. #20 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 4:24 pm

    Six blog threads have been devoted on the ‘crude, vulgar, derogatory and offensive remarks by the two sexist BN Members of Parliament, Datuk Mohd Said Yusof (Jasin) and Datuk Bung Mokhtar Radin (Kinabatangan)’.

    I can see you are on the right track. Keep harping on it; it is a right topic – gender issue and sexist remarks.

    It is my belief that no issue galvanises women as a group more : for the majority, gender issues are closer to heart than even national issues. (I can preempt that some will chide me for this ‘sexist’ remark). And women are a force because they make 50% of the electorate.

    You have provided the momentum. Women groups – Women’s Action Society Women’s Aid Organisation and Sisters in Islam – have now rallied around to publicly condemn these sexist statements.

    Though a trifle slow, mainstream media – The Star, NST and The Sun – have also picked up the courage to run articles criticizing these statements and the failure of the government to take the offenders to task.

    At the end of it all, the issues raised by you (whether it concerns Bung Mokhtar’s ‘bochor’ insults thrown at Fong Poh Kuan, Jamaludin Jarjis’s racist remarks ay Sheena Moorthy or the conversion cases of Subashini, Marimuthu, Revathi, Benedict Gopal or Magendran) address the central theme of the recognition of inalienable individual and minority rights in Malaysia.

    The mission, as I understand it, is to foster a culture of rights recognition in this country. Sometimes I really am astounded that after 50 years of independence, and billions being spent on education, there are still so many people around who are oblivious of this imperative of developing a culture of rights recognition (which is still nascent here) to supersede the prevailing feudal culture from which all patronage and corruption emanate.

    To be sure, I think there are statements made in Parliament that were as bad if not worse than Bung Mokhtar Radin’s crude broadside on women’s menstrual cycle said by way of joke.

    For examples the MP for Jerai Badruddin bin Amiruldin had made the following famous contributions to national debate in Parliament:

    · “Malaysia is an Islamic state, you don’t like it, you get out of Malaysia!” – in reference to your argument that Malaysia was clearly a secular state based on Lord President Tun Salleh Abas Federal Court decision of Che Omar bin Che Soh vs Public Prosecutor (1988);

    · “How long can the Yang Berhormat’s husband stand her?” – in reference to what he considered the aggressive character of modern malaysian women as explified by Poh Kuan;

    · referring to Indians as keling when Badruddin discussed the practice of Hindu males wearing earrings;

    Racist remarks (and gestures for example brandishing the keris) are just as bad as sexist remarks.

    They are both an anathema to individual and minority rights.
    Yet somehow it is the sexist statement bearing on gender issues that could prompt (more than racist staement):-

    · Women, Family and Community Development Minister Shahrizat to raise the issue of offcolour sexist remarks with the cabinet, to review the rules of peoper language in Parliament to ensure that similar incidents do not recur;

    · Wanita MCA has spoken out against the sexist remarks :“the issue is not about Government versus the Opposition. It is about respecting each other’s gender rights,” the wing’s deputy head Datin Paduka Chew Mei Fun said;

    · NST Editorial and The Star ‘On the Beat’ columnist Wong Chun Wah to criticise those remarks.

    Racist remarks wreak as much if not more harm than sexist remarks – they dismoralise and propel the brain drain – yet because of the architecture of ethnic based politics here structured around Malay privileges, condemnation of racist remarks are comparatively more muted at least amongst BN group of people and mainstream media.

    Which is why in the long road to developing a culture of rights recognition here, the first tentative steps to arouse a broad based agitation amongst different spectrum of society for respect of rights should appropriately begin and revolve around the gender issue on the premise that respect for women is the ‘mother’ of rights.

    The PM says he wants development of human capital, a first world parliament and a culture of democratic debate.

    Hold him to his words for that. In a participative democracy of a knowledge based society, every citizen has the right to express their thoughts, aspirations, appreciation and discontent.

  21. #21 by sotong on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 4:45 pm

    If the non bumi are treated like 2 class by some politicians to hurt their feelings and made them feel they do not belong in the land of their birth, women are treated like 3rd or may be 5th class in the country.

    It is time for women to make a stand in a man dominated world – in government and private sector.

  22. #22 by ethnicmalaysian on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 4:47 pm

    What development of human capital?? Trust our PM to sloganise so wonderfully and articulately. If development of human capital results in the Umno MPs that we have today, don’t bother. Save the funds on wasteful mega infra projects, at least buildings and roads can’t open their mouths and cause so much frustration and heartache. (save for the occasional leak/collapse/aircon malfunction)

  23. #23 by ihavesomethingtosay on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 5:07 pm

    “Let’s teach the 2 sexiest BN MPs a lesson” – Kit

    hahahahaha, impossible lah, they will hide behind PAKLALA’s skirt, it’s like trying to teach PIGS to fly?

    Unless PAKLALA oe SIL tells them to; we have to remember that they can take a leak without their permission

  24. #24 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 7:18 pm

    What can I say??

    This issue is being politicized beyond what is reasonable. It is distracting us from the real issues.

    When everything is said and done, what do we have? Has DAP won more support for itself? Maybe. But what is clear is that it is an issue best left to women organizations – not a political party dedicated to winning the forthcoming general elections.

  25. #25 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 9:11 pm

    For comparison to the ‘racist’ remarks supposed to have been made by a visiting Minister to the U.S. and one Sheena Moorthy’s reaction or over reaction:

    FuturePolitician has made the following remarks (scroll up):

    “just spoke to a young chap from trengganu, well mannered mix parentage malay guy. He has mix parentage chinese and thai, he is a malay but really well manner, well spoken english and surviving in our harst business environment.”

    So a Malay is not well-mannered, unable to articulate in English properly and unable to survive in a harsh business environment (I believe he is referring to resilience) Are we to take these remarks as ‘racist’?

  26. #26 by Alvin on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 9:46 pm

    Ways this 2 clowns can be punished
    • AAB to sack them as leader of BN
    • Whomever who conferred them Datukships – revoke them
    • The voting Rakyat to boot them out
    • His parents who gave them life
    • His wife to divorce him
    • His children/daughter disowning the father
    • Friends despising him
    • Girlfriends/lovers – do your part
    • GOD the Almighty
    Do they deserve some or all of the above
    For the powers that be to decide

  27. #27 by searpaker on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 10:50 pm

    This is not only a discourteousness behavior and it also reflect the moral corruption in a very honourable parliament activity. By settling the issue of leaks in the parliament, our 2 YB MPs subconscious were related this matter to women menstrual cycle…So, obviously we can read their mind from their remarks. They plucky to insulting women and taking it as jokes without feeling culpable. Should this sexist remarks to be a joke in parliament? then what is the existence of sexual harassment.

    This issue should take it very seriously because it already made the uproar in the public even oversea. Malaysia is a democratic country, We love malaysian to have a decently behave but not a sexist and rudeness remarks by our MPs. If this is allow in the parliament, that will be a ruin of moral institution inculcating in malaysia so far. If there is not supposed to be taken seriously, that will be finest joke in parliament (insulting women as joke, what else won’t happened to women in malaysia?). Shame to be malaysian and feel sorry to all Women in Malaysia as a sitting duck…

  28. #28 by sammyvellu on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 11:09 pm

    Something funny is going on ……………..

  29. #29 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 15 May 2007 - 11:10 pm

    None of the above.

  30. #30 by DarkHorse on Wednesday, 16 May 2007 - 5:26 am

    Malay politicians have always regarded women generally as less than their equals. This is in their culture.

    So remarks like those that we hear from time to time is no big deal. It has always been that way. Except that this time remarks unbecoming of a Member of Parliament were directed to a DAP MP and done in jest. The remarks when first uttered in fact went unnoticed and without any objection. Run the tape again!

  31. #31 by scrtls on Wednesday, 16 May 2007 - 10:39 am

    i am just curious. does your mother or wife still leaks every month?

  32. #32 by Jimm on Wednesday, 16 May 2007 - 11:11 am

    BN will never learn from their mistakes, they keep piling them up and covered all these with a bigger carpet. Ever wander what will be the actual size of the current carpet against those used ones since 1957 ???

  33. #33 by searpaker on Wednesday, 16 May 2007 - 3:54 pm


    Unnoticed and without any objection reflects they are lacking the knowledge of sexual harassment (most of victim will keep silence due to embarrassing). They need to attend sexual harassment class before enter to parliament. They are actually making fun of it as it’s might be hilarious to some, could be offensive to others. That is not our culture even in the parliament…please prove it to the world, that’s not malaysia culture such a rudeness culture.

  34. #34 by DarkHorse on Thursday, 17 May 2007 - 1:53 am

    Sexual harassment in the workplace has been on the rise for years. It is time specific laws are introduced in Parliament to address the issue.

    It not only demeans the opposite sex (there are instances also of female bosses harassing their subordinates though few in number) but acts to impede worker productivity through hours lost just to cope with the problem. Staff would absent themselves from work unnecessarily or would not do over time.


    But where does one draw the line between harmless flirting and sexual harassment?

  35. #35 by Godamn Singh on Thursday, 17 May 2007 - 5:46 am


    Ass: “I resent that!”

  36. #36 by hawaiichee on Friday, 18 May 2007 - 12:43 pm

    There was a female commented that the 2 MPs were typical Malay chauvinist. Then, came the term MMCP – Malay Male Chauvinist Pig. Now, I am sure many will take offense. Sabar dik … lets look at the situation in a civil manner and evaluate the backgrounds of this claims. Also it is good to be objective if there is any improvements needed for the good of Malaysia.

    1. Do Malays by tradition and custom plays women on a lower ground than men?

    2. Do Malays by tradition find it funnier to raise gender insensitive jokes?

    Since this is a topic of male treatment towards female, let us talk about tne comment about “typical Malay chauvinists”. The question is do Malays put women on equal grounds with men.

    1. Are there women leaders in the mosque/surau?

    2. Why do women cover their heads? What does that symbolise? Does it symbolise a lower position?

    3. And if that is ingrained in Malay culture, what are Malay male response towards this culture especially in growing feminism trend throughout the world? If it is based on a culture and tradition, at least it takes modern minds to break out of this tradition and give women the equal grounds they deserve.

    Maybe the female blogger made the remark about “typical Malay chauvinists” from experience. Let us hear from other bloggers.

    ARE MALAY MALE MORE CHAUVINIST THAN OTHER RACES? This may seem like a racist discussion but how can we improve Malaysia if we do not think, discuss and share our opinions so that others may hear the opinions and buck up and make Malaysia a better place.

  37. #37 by accountability on Friday, 18 May 2007 - 7:49 pm

    sexist UMNO MPs, defended by UMNO leaders, both men & women
    gangsters and mat rempits as members of UMNOputras,

    no wonder the Malays are in such a weak and lame position…
    no wonder the Malays need protection!

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