The Cabinet on Wednesday should issue a directive for a total halt to all temple demolitions in the country and set up a Royal Commission of Inquiry into Tuesday’s Kampung Rimba Jaya Sri Maha Mariaman Temple demolition in Shah Alam and to draw up national guidelines for all future demolitions to ensure they do not trample on religious and cultural sensitivities.
All temple demolitions should stop until the Royal Commission of Inquiry has come out with its report and recommendations for national guidelines for all future demolitions of places of worship which take fully into account the Merdeka social contract 50 years ago which assured all religions a rightful place in the country, the first Rukunegara principle of “Belief in God” as well as the religious and cultural sensitivities of a multi-religious and multi-racial Malaysia.
What happened at Kampung Rimba Jaya on Tuesday, where brute and naked force was displayed by the Shah Alam City Hall (MBSA) enforcement authorities in utter disregard of proper procedures, religious and cultural sensitivities in the demolition of the 40-year-old Sri Maha Mariaman Temple, resulting in many injured, 20 people including four lawyers arrested, has caused great damage to Malaysian nation-building and is most shameful especially in a year when the country is celebrating 50 years of independent nationhood.
The highhanded and reckless manner in which the Sri Maha Mariaman Temple was demolished had raised the question, not only in Malaysia but internationally, whether Malaysia really respects the fundamental and constitutional rights of Malaysians to “freedom of religion” as enshrined in Article 11 of the Federal Constitution.
It is no exaggeration to say that to a significant section of the Malaysian population, the 50th Merdeka anniversary celebrations have been rendered meaningless by such arbitrary actions by those in authority which are completely contemptuous of the legitimate rights and sensitivities of different communities and religions in the country.
This is why SUHAKAM, the Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikkhism and Taoism (MCCBCHST), Malaysia Hindu Sangam and various organizations including political parties had deplored and condemned the MBSA demolition actions.
This was also why DAP MP for Ipoh Barat and National Vice Chairman M. Kulasegaran had sought to have an emergency debate in Parliament on the temple demolition on Thursday but his motion was rejected by the Deputy Speaker, Datuk Lim Si Cheng on completely unacceptable grounds.
The Cabinet can go a long way to make amends for the great harm done to Malaysian nation-building and the country’s reputation of respect for all religions by Tuesday’s temple demolition by issuing a directive on Wednesday for an immediate halt to all demolitions of temples and places of worship, as well as establishing a Royal Commission of Inquiry tasked with two terms of reference:
- To inquire into Tuesday’s high-handed demolition of the Sri Maha Mariaman temple in Kampung Rimba Jaya near Shah Alam and to identify the state and local authority officials responsible for abuses and excesses of power; and
- To draw up national guidelines for all future demolitions of places of worship which do not trample on religious and cultural sensitivities by taking fully into account the fundamental right of “freedom of religion” assured to all Malaysians.
If the Cabinet on Wednesday can issue such a directive and set up such a Royal Commission of Inquiry, it will be the best Deepavali gift of the Malaysian government.
Let all Cabinet Ministers, whether MIC, MCA, Gerakan, UMNO or from the Sabah and Sarawak Barisan Nasional parties, prove that they can act in unison in the larger Malaysian interest on the occasion of the nation’s 50th Merdeka anniversary to lay a firm basis for a plural nation by ending all high-handed demolitions of temples and places of worship which trample on religious and cultural sensitivities, and in so doing, making a magnificent Deepavali present not only to Malaysian Hindus but to all Malaysians as well.
#1 by k1980 on Sunday, 4 November 2007 - 7:54 pm
Build the ‘half-bridge and save RM200 million!
http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/holds.php?itemid=8828
the ‘half-bridge’, was supposed to cost RM2.379 billion. This bridge, however, has been aborted but we still have to pay RM2.579 billion, RM200 million more.
#2 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 4 November 2007 - 9:10 pm
“…to draw up national guidelines for all future demolitions to ensure they do not trample on religious and cultural sensitivities.” KIT
Kit, with all due respect how could anyone “demolish” places of worship without at the same “trampleng on religious and cultural sensitivities”?
There is no textbook solution to this problem and no easy way out – if there is one. But let’s push the envelope a bit. Why should it be a problem? Because a place of worship is sitting in the way of economic development? How could that be? It is an illegal structure set up many years earlier and has worshippers numbering in the thousands, and just as many years later a developer came by and thought he could develop this land and turn it into a residential estate? Or the government needs to build a road through it and finds this place of worship standing in its way, and there is no other way it could build a road through it? The solution lies in the problem.
The developer who recently purchased the land and wants to develop the land into a residential estate, for example, could still have his ‘pot of gold’. If we need to tell him “how” then perhaps he should choose another occupation and not be a developer. As for the government, Parliament has given it powers to acquire land and to compensate the landowners for a reason – and the reason is not to play God.
#3 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 4 November 2007 - 9:44 pm
The BN run government knows that ‘forced temple demolition’ is a treasure trove of votes for the political opposition. Yet it has the audacity to continue with their policy of forced demolition.
Once I was approached by an “illegal settler or a squatter” for want of a better term to be their spokesman against a private developer which just concluded its negotiation for the land from the state government – and guess who have shares in the company?
I will not use the word “squatters” to describe people who have built their homes, raise their kids, tend the family’s vegetable plots to live off the land and build roads and community halls and places of worship. I don’t care what the law calls them. They are working class families struggling to make a living for themselves, support their children – with needs like everyone else. They may have carved a life out of living on somebody else’s land and know the consequences, but whose fault was it to allow them to do so in the first place?
The same considerations apply to the removal of “illegal settlers” as to the “forced demolition of places of worship” – except that the latter is more emotional and touches on the constitutional issue of freedom of worship.
#4 by hkh on Sunday, 4 November 2007 - 9:47 pm
The way that I look at this escalation of total disregard of people’s feelings, is that the people of IJOK and Macap are to be blamed. They did not send out a clear message but instead sold themselves when they had the chance. When you breed and spoil a monster, this is what happen.
It is a blessing in disguise that this monster misbehaved so early.
So, people, wake up!!!!!
#5 by oknyua on Sunday, 4 November 2007 - 10:25 pm
YB LIm KS, may I inform you that the demolition of churches in the Orang Asli settlement have been going on for … well I don’t know how many years now.
No, I am not complaining but just to make you aware. Details are with our SIB National Secretary. The respond we give: we fast each year for Malaysia, prayed for the leaders to uphold righteousness, pray for the judiciary, pray against corruption. We don’t know what other options we could take.
Thank you.
#6 by sheriff singh on Sunday, 4 November 2007 - 10:34 pm
I remember that in 2005 or 2006, it was declared by the Toyo MB that the “developed state” Selangor DE has no more squatters, that they have all been housed in flats, low cost housing and the like. Why then did we have all these unfortunates who have no where else to go?
The whole demolition is one that lacks sensitivity. We have “infidels” if we can called them that, handling and destroying religious statues and images of another religion. This is absolutely a no-no.
The Hindus there have already said they were willing to relocate. All they needed was some extra time to do whatever that was necessary according to their religion, before they relocate. Why the sudden urgency to destroy their temple is puzzling.
Who is the developer and why has he got so much power and influence to bring such devastation using so much equipment and government personnel? Why is he in a hurry to make his millions?
On an off topic matter but nevertheless a current issue, I am told that many stalls in various parts of the Klang Valley have already increased the prices of their noodles from RM 3.50 to RM 3.80 (8.6%) or RM 4.00 (14.3%) due to the rise in the price of flour. And there have been rises in other basic food items as well. Looks like there will be pressure for increased wages now with the bank staff asking for a rise of 30%.
Soon, the price of petrol and diesel will have to go up. No way it can be avoided. Wonder how Noh Mohammed used the RM 4.5 billion or more that the government collected from the reduced government subsidies at the last increase, for the people’s benefit? Was it used as a “soft loan” to the Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ)?
#7 by dawsheng on Sunday, 4 November 2007 - 10:38 pm
“now taking it to the bigger picture of the nation, the election process and the electorates are so structured (actually re-structured) that it would be impossible ….i repeat..impossible…for the ruling coalition to lose..even if more than 1/2 the population voted against them…and that my friend is the fact.” the archer
Let me assure you that if more than half of the population voted for the opposition, the impossible will become possible. I suggest we wait and see.
#8 by sean on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 12:00 am
Our country are indeed heading towards Islamisation Umno style.Just go through today’s NST’s and a small column that wrote about Sarawak…..”Alchohol free zone”…not that i love alchohol that much but it’s just that there are forces that are experimenting with laws design for muslim majority areas to be alchohol free etc etc.This could be one of the many steps taken by the admistration to slowly change the way the country are govern.Beware the wolf in the sheep skin.
#9 by AhPek on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 1:01 am
‘Let me assure you that if more than half the population voted for opposition, the impossible will become possible.’. dawsheng.
I am afraid you’re wrong.Look at last election figure.BN got 64% 0f popular votes but in terms of parlimentary seats these votes fetch 91%.In other words they have 199seats out of 219 seats.The remaining 20 seats go to opposition and these came from 36% of popular votes.To form a government with a simple majority you need to have 110 seats.Now tell me from simple arithmetic how would that come to in terms of popular votes for the opposition!! Some ridiculous high figure (certainly far more than 50% popular votes).
Why is that arithmetic got to be this ridiculous?? That’s because of that mamak who gerrymandered during his 22 years to make it impossible for party other than UMNO to win!!
#10 by AhPek on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 1:27 am
And that is what the gathering at Dataran Merdeka is all about—to march to Agong with a petition to reform the electoral system so that contestants vying for parlimentary seats or state seats can compete from a level playing field.
Malaysia’s system is what we call first-past-the-post system.Even in such a system without gerrymandering the winner may not be what the majority voters want for winner is only a person with the most number of votes.A fairer represention would come from a system from New Zealand MMP ie Mixed Member Proportional System.Wikipedia will give a pretty good idea how this system works.
#11 by negarawan on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 3:06 am
This unconstitutional and illegal demolition of a Hindu temple, unjustified restrictions placed on non-muslim places of worship,the belittlement and marginalization of non-bumi races, is a stark reminder of the racist supremacy policies of Hitler. Very soon we have to wear badges with the words “Hindu”, “Christian”, “Buddhist”, “Taoist” on our shirts in public? Will there be extermination camps too?
If anyone has videos of this temple demolition and others, please post it on Youtube for the whole world to see and realize that the current corrupt government of Malaysia needs to be subject of international pressure.
#12 by the archer on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 3:14 am
dawsheng ays:
Let me assure you that if more than half of the population voted for the opposition, the impossible will become possible. I suggest we wait and see.
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while i hope that that kind of result would translate accordingly into the corresponding desired end state whether for the ruling coalition or the opposition, in the true spirit of democracy and fairness, unfortunately the delineation of electorates exercise that was undertaken,doesnt support this causal effect outcome. the percentages of population who reside in the electorates according to this delineation are such that percentages of population voting for either side (whether bn or the opposition) do not translate into corresponding number of seats in parliament. it would however be possible to reduce the number of seats to the government but equally difficult to deny them the 2/3rd majority.while bersih’s drive is all so laudable and i too support that, perhaps it would be more urgent to look at how overall voting system and what formula should be used to tanslate the results to be representative of the peoples choice. our system ensures that the current govt remains entrenched in power for a long long time to come…unless that system is revisited and reworked.
but having said that, i dont want to pour cold water on your assurance ..i’ll wait and see together with you.
for the love of our nation and all it’s commnities
#13 by malaysiatoday.com on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 4:55 am
Shah Alam City Council (SACC) is employed gangsters or mat rempit as their enforcement staff?
I really do not know there is any other enforcement agency in the world is using stone, stick, parang, etc. as their self-defense gear. SACC enforcement member shall only be equipped with a wooden baton, other weapons used by them are deemed illegal.
The temple committee already agreed to move out after Depavali, why Mohd. Khir cannot wait for another few days?
Why no land allocation in new housing estate for Hindu or Buddhist temples? Ong Ka Ting must explain this lopsided policy to non-Muslims.
#14 by undergrad2 on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 5:35 am
Sticks and stones may break my bones but come government gangsters and I’ll kick their asses.
#15 by sotong on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 7:13 am
Timing of demolition close to Deepavali…why?
#16 by sotong on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 7:22 am
What is the number of people per mosque, temple, church and etc?
Are there sufficient place of worship for all religions?
#17 by k1980 on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 8:58 am
More money to send second space tourist to ISS
http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/beritacom.php?itemid=35
Harga minyak dijangka akan naik RM0.70 sen seliter selepas pilihan raya nanti… harga minyak akan naik berdasarkan penegasan Perdana Menteri bahawa harga minyak tetap naik kerana ia tidak boleh dielakkan, dalam satu mesyuarat yang dihadirinya.
#18 by Traveller on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 9:19 am
malaysiatoday.com: “Why no land allocation in new housing estate for Hindu or Buddhist temples? Ong Ka Ting must explain this lopsided policy to non-Muslims.”
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Ong Ka Ting is another useless leader. He has been telling the Chinese to have “ke ku nai lao” (bear the hardships and work hard) attitude. To him, it is OK for Chinese to suffer a bit and not complain. The Chinese has been suffering since Merdeka and he still wants us to continue suffering as an underdog instead of being equal. With attitude like that, Chinese people in Malaysia will never complete the journey that our forefathers started from China. We will always be kicked around even when we are born in this country. I also don’t understand his Lifelong Learning thing. Have all Chinese prospered to the extent that we have the luxury to sit around in intellectual discourse about nothing?
Next time if you see a Chinese temple or Catholic church demolished, you can forget about asking OK Ting. He will tell you to have “ke ku nai lao” attitude and bear the pain.
#19 by Libra2 on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 9:46 am
The time has already come whereby UMNO does not need the Chinese and Indian votes. Thanks to the Election Commission and illegal immigrants with My Kads.
Ali Rustan made it very clear at the PPP state convention.
Again that Muhamad with two Mohamads in his name has said UMNO will not lose if the Chinese fee to the Opposition. UMNO won’t be hurt he said. The losers will be Gerakan and MCA.
There you are. Chinese and Indians can go to hell, according to UMNO.
#20 by pamelaoda on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 10:52 am
Idiots! these ppl can karaoke every bloody morning and wakes the whole world up and yet then crybaby overNamewee’s Negarakuku and now, they themselves turned into a syaitan when come to other religions!
Why hypo why?
#21 by sotong on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 11:33 am
In a real democracy, majority has a huge responsibility towards the well being of the minorities.
#22 by boh-liao on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 11:38 am
theStar, 5 Nov 2007: Zainuddin said there was one case that raised “doubts over the media’s purpose†was the recent reporting of Port Klang assemblymen Datuk Zakaria Mat Deros’ new mansion although he had been cleared of corruption.
“The case is already over. He took orphans to his new house but what was highlighted was how big the house is,†he said.
- According to Zam and, of course naturally, the Umno elites, Emperor Zakaria did not do anything wrong and is a kind soul. Bless him.
#23 by tidaknama on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 12:28 pm
“negarawan Says:
November 5th, 2007 at 03: 06.21
This unconstitutional and illegal demolition of a Hindu temple, unjustified restrictions placed on non-muslim places of worship,the belittlement and marginalization of non-bumi races, is a stark reminder of the racist supremacy policies of Hitler. Very soon we have to wear badges with the words “Hinduâ€Â, “Christianâ€Â, “Buddhistâ€Â, “Taoist†on our shirts in public? Will there be extermination camps too?”
Too late lar…it is already on your IC
#24 by Jimm on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 12:59 pm
Religion issues have been of some concerned all these while in this country. Mostly wasn’t highlighted in national media or allow to be ‘discuss’.
After all, Malaysian are famous for short memory.
#25 by Godfather on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 1:03 pm
Archer:
I don’t disagree with what you say about the inevitability of BN winning the next elections. The question, as you put it, is by what margin. I think we can make a serious dent in the majority – and all we are hoping for is to deny the thieves the two-thirds majority. This will trigger a reform within UMNO – and hopefully a new bunch of more compassionate and truly humble leaders will emerge who will put the rakyat’s interest ahead of theirs. This thread is about the plight of the Indians – and my comment on how Semi Value keeps getting himself voted in year after year. The other races have alternatives – the Indians have none. The intimidatory tactics employed by Semi’s boys, the lack of education amongst the general Indian population, the lack of alternative leadership – all these meant that grassroot Indian support for BN can be dispensed with.
#26 by malaysiatoday.com on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 2:44 pm
With the present unfair constituency setup, non-Malays population size has to at least two times larger than today to topple UMNO dominance in politics.
Why UMNO has to care about non-Malay feelings?
I worry that in one day Indian people are pushed to the corner and have to follow Tamil Tiger in Sri Lanka by using arms to claim back their basic rights as a human being.
I was stationed in Sri Lanka in late 90s and found many similarities between Sri Lanka and Malaysia. Sinhalese majority is doing exactly what the Malay is doing here, race discrimination against the minority.
#27 by k1980 on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 2:45 pm
The reason was the PM forgot to put a zero after the ’2′
http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/letter.php?itemid=54
BN Government Should Not Mislead The Public That The Consumer Price Index (CPI) From January To September 2007 Has Risen By Only 2% When In Reality It Has Risen By 20%!
#28 by AhPek on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 2:56 pm
Godfather, I would like to share your optimism but figures from the last election do not support such optimism although we know very well that most urbanites are thoroughly fed up with all the monkeying done by the present ruling party.
Now from the last result 20 parlimentary seats were obtained by opposition thro achieving 36% (BN obtained 64%) popular votes.If we hope the BN would lose two thirds majority then opposition must win 74 parlimentary seats.Using the above results that would translate to 133% of popular votes which make it completely impossible and non-sensical.The only recourse is to fight for an electoral reform without which the ordinary Joes can shout ‘Foul’ to the point of bursting their lungs, you can rest assured they will fall on deaf ears.
#29 by Godfather on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 2:59 pm
2% or 20% – what’s the difference ? UMNOputras flying around in helicopters, holiday in Australia, New Zealand, UK, US….what do they care about local inflation ? The care only about the extra zeros in their bank accounts overseas, not the zeros in Bolehland inflation – and the majority still continues to buy the con.
#30 by sotong on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 3:02 pm
What the future Superpower China & India planned to do in our region in particular and the world in general is a real concern.
Hope it is non military, non nuclear and contructive one.
#31 by the archer on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 3:06 pm
godfather says
The other races have alternatives – the Indians have none. The intimidatory tactics employed by Semi’s boys, the lack of education amongst the general Indian population, the lack of alternative leadership – all these meant that grassroot Indian support for BN can be dispensed with.
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you make so many assumptions that it is so very dangerous the way you think (or don’t think is more like it)read your own posting above and tell me that you are not contradicting yourself!!!!!!!!!
#32 by the archer on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 3:07 pm
I worry that in one day Indian people are pushed to the corner and have to follow Tamil Tiger in Sri Lanka by using arms to claim back their basic rights as a human being.
I was stationed in Sri Lanka in late 90s and found many similarities between Sri Lanka and Malaysia. Sinhalese majority is doing exactly what the Malay is doing here, race discrimination against the minority.
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i dont think that it’s very far off
#33 by Jimm on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 3:33 pm
They went all the way to claim their Ketuanan in this land whereby others are just immigrants.
They always claimed that others are not as ‘original’ as them to be this land owners.
#34 by Godfather on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 3:55 pm
Archer:
OK, let me put in plain(er) English. When the Chinese are upset, they exercise the only they have currently i.e. vote the DAP. When the Indians are upset, they don’t have a race-based party to vote for, to compare with. What do they do ? Some people think that it could be pushing them into armed rebellion, which I don’t subscribe to because their numbers are simply too small. Furthermore, there is no “external” support, unlike the Tamil Tigers which has tremendous support from Tamil Nadu.
Having a race-based party for Indians might be the only way for them to make a difference. I don’t know if Nallakaruppan could be that person to start a new party, but I know the Indians need an alternative voice to the big shark known as semi Value.
#35 by grace on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 4:16 pm
Just as I blame the Chinese in Penang for simply electing Gerakan or MCA so that a Chinese CM is appointed, I do blame the INdians for BN, just to pay for the follies later.
Sometimes, we are not aware that we, the poor rakyat are being made used of as tools by those BN politicians who are well fed by businessmen. They tell us to vote for BN. When BN wins, they get tips from Businessmen for their favour. Businessmen gets lots of opportunites or lubangs from the YBs!
We? Get Shit!!! Yet we vote for them!!!
Stupid!!!
My vote is DAP always!!!
#36 by ihavesomethingtosay on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 5:19 pm
is anyone taking bets that AAB will stay awake for the amno general meeting?
or
how long can he stay awake?
#37 by AhPek on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 5:49 pm
The Indians are not only the strongest BN supporter (stronger than the Malays and Chinese) they also are the most reliable of BN supporters since DAY 1 !!!
But they curse and rant but at the end of the day it’s always BN.
#38 by malaysiatoday.com on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 5:55 pm
AhPek Says:
November 5th, 2007 at 17: 49.51
The Indians are not only the strongest BN supporter (stronger than the Malays and Chinese) they also are the most reliable of BN supporters since DAY 1 !!!
But they curse and rant but at the end of the day it’s always BN.
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Probably this is the price of being loyal to racist Malay UMNO.
#39 by pkrisnin on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 7:22 pm
40 years on illegal ground and when near election they decide to tear it down. Call me naive but looks like Badawi has some people within his own party working to against him. I see a power struggle coming for the PM post. I have my theories who actually ordered this and shame on him using a temple to get the people hoping mad and further his goals for the PM post.
#40 by malaysiatoday.com on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 8:13 pm
A friend of mine who is quite closed to Khairy did tell me that Badawi is gang up with Anwar politically. Anyway, everything is possible in politics.
If you are old enough and can recall incident in 1987, Najib is the number one racist in UMNO.
#41 by ZePenguin on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 8:22 pm
Demolishment of temples while Deepavali is just around the corner… How nice!!
Seriously, this current government has started to show off their “Ketuanan Melayu” by going around and destroying temples and all that. What they are trying to gain by this?
As an Indian, I gotta agree that Indians too, have their negative side where as they love to build temples nearly each and every corner where there are some visible numbers of Indians living together. But, that doesn’t mean when the time comes for these temples to be re-allocated, the government has to forcibly destroy these temples. Why can’t they give some time for all the deities and necessary stuffs to be taken out? Why they need all the sudden rush to destroy these temples?
Retards!
#42 by mwt on Monday, 5 November 2007 - 8:33 pm
The 4 lawyers who were arrested and released have filed an RM85 Million suit against the Government & Police. More details at:
http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2007/11/rm85-million-suit-by-4-lawyers-for.html
& also More wastage of Public Funds.
1 Government considering buying Soyuz Spacecraft for display; Oct 10 declared Space Day
2. Retreat to posh Palace of Golden Horses for DBKL, Transport & Works Officials just for meeting to discuss Plan To Impose KL Toll. What happened to all the posh meeting rooms at the ministries and at DBKL? Or is it end of year X’mas Spending to finish off excess over allocation?
#43 by uyatnej on Tuesday, 6 November 2007 - 5:03 pm
Aiyoo, why only scold Samy taktaumalu,
Kayveas also Indian ma, where is he?
And how about Gerakan Indian members, muti racial party ma,
Why Koh Tsu Khoon keep his mouth shut, wanna discuss close door some more ah?
And where are all the Keadilan Indian members? Still waiting for Anuar to be free ah!
And why every time only DAP voice up and fight for the right of Chinese and Indians, and yet why Chinese and Indians still don’t want to give DAP a chance in every GE!
Come on lah brotherrr!
Vote wisely, vote for change, vote for DAP and fight for our right.
#44 by motai on Saturday, 10 November 2007 - 10:19 am
“When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive.”
Howard Zinn
“You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists”.
Abbie Hoffman
#45 by watergun on Saturday, 10 November 2007 - 2:05 pm
today i am very down because the inforcement wrong use their power to stop the supporter of BERSIH by setted up all lot of check point and make the jam of car by bumper to bumper!! juz let our citizen to voice up their opinio and let the malaysian judge it is’t true or wrong..BN we are educated pls show ur democracy…pls bear in mind…behaviour your ownself…i shame ur slogan…..MALASYSIA BOLEH….ANGKASAWAN tumpang and pround ur ownself….the wotld are laught u….MALAYSIA.
#46 by poorcina on Saturday, 10 November 2007 - 4:19 pm
” have anyone ever heard of authority demolishing mosque?”
#47 by motai on Sunday, 11 November 2007 - 10:08 am
Professor Robert O. Paxton has written that:
Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.”[11]
Paxton further defines fascism’s essence as:
…a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond reach of traditional solutions; 2. belief one’s group is the victim, justifying any action without legal or moral limits; 3. need for authority by a natural leader above the law, relying on the superiority of his instincts; 4. right of the chosen people to dominate others without legal or moral restraint; 5. fear of foreign `contamination.”[12]
Stanley Payne’s Fascism: Comparison and Definition (1980) uses a lengthy itemized list of characteristics to identify fascism, including the creation of an authoritarian state; a regulated, state-integrated economic sector; fascist symbolism; anti-liberalism; anti-communism; anti-conservatism.[13] He argues that common aim of all fascist movements was elimination of the autonomy or, in same cases, the existence of large-scale capitalism.[14] Semiotician Umberto Eco attempts to identify the characteristics of proto-fascism as the cult of tradition, rejection of modernism, cult of action for action’s sake, life is lived for struggle, fear of difference, rejection of disagreement, contempt for the weak, cult of masculinity and machismo, qualitative populism, appeal to a frustrated majority, obsession with a plot, illicitly wealthy enemies, education to become a hero, and speaking Newspeak, in his popular essay Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt.[15] More recently, an emphasis has been placed upon the aspect of populist fascist rhetoric that argues for a “re-birth” of a conflated nation and ethnic people.[16]
Most scholars hold that fascism as a social movement employs elements from the political left, but many conclude that fascism eventually allies with the political right, especially after attaining state power. For example, Nazism began as a socio-political movement that promoted a radical form of National Socialism, but altered its character once Adolf Hitler was handed state power in Germany. Economists like Ludwig Von Mises argue that fascism is a form of socialist dictatorship similar to that of the Soviet Union.[17]
#48 by ktteokt on Friday, 16 November 2007 - 9:12 am
Littlebird 4th Nov – Forget about the Rukunegara. This has been a white elephant since its conception in the early seventies. Ask the ministers and those in the government which one of them can remember what was written in it? And just for the sake of writing only. Its contents were never realized since its existence. Just ask yourself what have THEY done on these few words excerpted from the Rukunegara …”membina masyarakat yang adil”. How can our masyarakat be adil when there are special rights conferred to certain groups? Are we not part of masyarakat or are they not??