The Malaysian Insider
By Asrul Hadi Abdullah Sani
KUALA LUMPUR, July 3 — The DAP wants former Penang Chief Minister Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon to solve the Kampung Buah Pala fiasco by lobbying for federal intervention.
Lim claimed that Koh, now a federal minister, was responsible for the controversy as it was during the Barisan Nasional (BN) government’s rule of Penang that the decision was made to alienate the land concerned to a private developer.
“I think the only solution is for Koh Tsu Koon as the former chief minister, who is responsible for this problem in Kampung Buah Pala, to take it up with the federal government and ask the federal government for an allocation or a grant to the Penang state for an amount necessary to have a win-win solution,” he said.
A small number of families in Kampung Buah Pala, in the Glugor area of Penang, are facing eviction after a private developer won outright ownership of the land recently.
But a number of Hindu Rights Action Front (Hindraf) activists have seized on the residents’ predicament, and turned the dispute into a racial issue.
Today, Lim urged all parties to be calm and not to go overboard.
“The issue of Kampung Buah Pala is that the people are being evicted because the previous Penang state government had acted in breach of total trust to the people,” he said.
Lim stressed that the problem was complicated than it appeared because the state government could not afford to acquire the land as a new development project had been planned for the location.
“Although people say that the issue could be solved with a stroke of the pen, it needs a compensation of more than RM150 million.
“The Penang state government and the people of Penang cannot afford it and the number of affected families is only 23,” he said.
As such, he said Koh, as the former chief minister, should act responsibly and request the federal government to help the residents of Kampung Buah Pala
#1 by W KOK on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 5:11 pm
YB,
i heard that you will be going to Kedah tomorrow.
Good to hear as think u need to go and see MB Kedah and ask him to stop all the nonsense here.
BTW what is your view that kedah gerakan youth chief tan keng liang is asking DAP to team up with BN to remove PAS from Kedah?
I think we are all sick with PAS in Kedah.
And welcome to Kedah tomorrow!
See http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/107693
Syor tubuh k’jaan perpaduan BN-DAP-PKR di Kedah
Jul 2, 09 4:02pm
Selepas cadangan kerajaan perpaduan PAS-Umno tidak menjadi kenyataan, kini Gerakan pula mengajak DAP dan PKR bekerjasama dengan BN untuk menubuhkan kerajaan perpaduan baru di Kedah.
Ketua Pemuda Gerakan Kedah, Tan Keng Liang berkata, ia bagi mempertahankan kepentingan semua rakyat Malaysia di Kedah.
“Dan membantu pembangunan negeri Kedah, berdasarkan polisi-polisi yang lebih konstruktif, dinamik dan progresif,” katanya dalam satu kenyataan hari ini.
Beliau menegaskan demikian sebagai mengulas keputusan DAP Kedah untuk meninggalkan kerajaan Pakatan Rakyat di negeri itu.
Katanya, keputusan DAP Kedah itu tidak akan membawa apa-apa perubahan kepada kerajaan PAS Kedah, kecuali ia bersedia bekerjasama dengan BN untuk membentuk kerajaan perpaduan.
“Selepas lebih daripada satu tahun, rakyat Kedah telah melihat polisi-polisi yang melampau yang telah dilaksanakan oleh kerajaan negeri PAS yang tidak menguntungkan rakyat Kedah tetapi hanya melembabkan pembangunan negeri Kedah,” katanya.
Di samping itu, katanya, juga penting bagi PKR Kedah membuat pertimbangan yang sewajarnya untuk membentuk kerajaan perpaduan BN-PKR-DAP di Kedah.
“…sekiranya PKR Kedah juga mempunyai matlamat untuk membantu semua rakyat di negeri Kedah,” tambahnya.
Semalam, pengerusi DAP Kedah, Thomas Su berkata, jawatankuasa DAP Kedah memutuskan keluar dari gabungan Pakatan Rakyat di Kedah.
Katanya, keputusan itu buat ekoran kegagalan kerajaan PAS Kedah memberi layanan saksama kepada semua rakyat negeri itu.
Dua punca utama menyebabkan keputusan itu dibuat ialah tindakan merobohkan pusat penyembelihan babi di Kampung Berjaya dan 50 peratus kuota perumahan bumiputera di negeri itu.
#2 by k1980 on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 5:13 pm
“The issue of Kampung Buah Pala is that the people are being evicted because the previous Penang state government had acted in breach of total trust to the people”
Can’t the previous Penang state government under Backdoor Koh be sued?
#3 by SpeakUp on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 5:13 pm
Wow … Mr LKS … people who have no rights out to be saved huh? I love how you try to push this all to KSK and not face the fact that the residents have no legal rights. We are to trust such a compassionate man? Why does he not start a fund to help these people and he contribute handsomely to it?
#4 by k1980 on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 5:38 pm
A chronological list of events from the time Padang Buah Pala first came into existence till the land was sold off for a pittance during Koh TK’s tenure should be made available so that the people can judge for themselves who is to be blamed for this predicament.
This is because the BN-controlled mass media seems to direct all the blame at the present CM, as if he was the one responsible for selling off the land, and not Koh the former CM.
#5 by OrangRojak on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 5:49 pm
“The Nation and its people cannot afford it and the number of dead Mongolian women is only 1”
That’s not your best ever argument.
How is the argument about the original alienation of the land going? If there was some error by the state government in the past, the state government is going to have to pay, isn’t it? Unless somehow it could be ascertained that someone or few persons committed fraud. Even so – as others have pointed out – someone is going to have to bear a heavy loss. If it’s the villagers, they have to bear the same loss familiar to many Malaysians: “it’s for the greater good”. Although they don’t have paper assets to make worthless, they’re going to lose their future. Of course, if they have no claim, then they never had a future. It would be good to see a cold presentation of the facts involved.
If the villagers have a valid claim at all, then the current state government are going to have to foot the bill or try to evade it by legal shenanigans. Either way, it would be a disaster. There’s absolutely no way this could be laid at Koh’s feet, is there? Even if – in the vanishingly unlikely case – he defrauded the people of Penang, he would have done it in his capacity as a member of the State government, wouldn’t he?
I think it’s time to lay the facts out. Either the villagers have no claim, and you can help them carry their boxes away, or the villagers have a claim, in which case the people of Penang are going to be angry at your son. Totally unfairly, but inevitably. Either PR-led state governments reveal the truth of past wrongdoing and foot the bill, or they end up being just as bad as the previous administrations. Rock and a hard place.
#6 by SpeakUp on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 5:58 pm
OrangRojak … see what was argued in the Federal Court la … I can tell you, if they really lost then they really have no rights or all the allegations are not substantiated.
Why are the rumours of wrong doing in the so called trust not stated by the residents in the local papers? I think its because there is none. All talk only. Our country is not like its run by Idi Amin la … not that bad yet.
One question … why Karpal Singh being such a great lawyer never give free assistance? Ever wonder?
#7 by TomThumb on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 9:39 pm
B”ut a number of Hindu Rights Action Front (Hindraf) activists have seized on the residents’ predicament, and turned the dispute into a racial issue.”
indian dissidents who believe they should be legal residents or citizens of another country should be forced into containers and shipped out. free on board (fob).
#8 by YK Leong on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 9:52 pm
The backdoor listed minister, who is holding a coconut in one hand and a bottle in the other hand, should return to Penang to explain what actually transpired during his administration to the villagers of Kampung Buah Pala. Why is the chief culprit kept very quiet about Kampung Buah Pala crisis? Have the Penang Gerakan leaders, who are very efficient to ask for instant remedy from YAB LGE, gone into hiding? Why is there a sudden deafening silent (even a needle dropping to the ground can be heard) from them? We sense and smell something is very wrong or unusual because they are so quiet and mousy, especially the backdoor listed minister.
#9 by dawsheng on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 9:58 pm
I love how you try to push this all to KSK and not face the fact that the residents have no legal rights. -SpeakUp
You don’t know what you are talking about.
#10 by Onlooker Politics on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 10:25 pm
Speakup,
You have been saying too frequently that those Indian residents in Kampung Buah Pala have no legal rights to ask for compensation. I wonder why the developer is so kind to offer the Indian residents some monetary payment when those residents are said to have no legal rights on that piece of land there.
Can you please enlighten me on why the developer is willing to pay the Indian residents a sum of money if they agree to be evicted? Is it because of the developer’s trying to show sympathy? Or is it because the developer is guilty-conscious?
#11 by chengho on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 10:31 pm
uncle Kit,
now u know how diff to manage a multiracial country like Malaysia ,do not play the blaming game u are too smart for them…
Set an appointment with Najib go to hell to Anwar , appeal for Najib intervention…OR perhap uncle Sam can asst u also..
#12 by SpeakUp on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 11:22 pm
OnLooker … its a thing in Penang that developers more often than not do. Nothing to do with sympathy or guilty conscience. Makes more sense to get them out FAST without a fuss and then past the cost to the buyers.
I negotiated with many squatters when I was in Penang. We always offer them a good amount but they will want more. At the end of the day, we go to court, waste time and they get NOTHING.
In the beginning the offer is high, as time draws on, the offer gets lesser.
In KL … they move them using DBKL only. Building have no planning permission, businesses have no permits etc.
Dawsheng … this problem is not caused by LGE but its best that LGE manage it and let’s not listen to LKS just harping on KSK.
There is no solid proof that the Kg Pala issue is KSK’s fault. All there might be is KSK sold the land WHICH BELONGS to the state at a cheap rate. Same problem as PKFZ land being bought at too high a price. Set up a PAC and get KSK’s butt on the sale and conversion premium BUT do not blame him without any facts other than he approved the sale at the stupid price.
The squatters are there from the starts. LGE, KSK, DSAI, you or me as CM will make no difference. Clear now or am I still not understanding things?
#13 by monsterball on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 11:45 pm
That idiot is teaching LKS how to abandon Anwar and beg for Najib’s help.
This is typical MCA mentality.
What a low class jerk..he is.
#14 by SpeakUp on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 11:50 pm
Monsterball … chengho is a smart man la. Of course Najib will welcome LKS with open arms la and give him RM150M to buy the land back for the people of Kg Pala. Hahahahaahahahahaaa …
#15 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:22 am
Without mentioning that idiot’s name…everyone knows who he is .
Chengho…you are famous la….hahahahahahaha
#16 by dawsheng on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:23 am
this problem is not caused by LGE but its best that LGE manage it and let’s not listen to LKS just harping on KSK. – SpeakUp
Let us be fair in our comments. Kampung Buah Pala was a state property with residents occupying the land for many years, and how it became state property itself is controversial. LKS asked in the previous thread why KBP was later sold for RM10 psf or RM3.21 million from RM6.42 million or 50% discount after recommendation from one UMNO politician, mind you that at RM20 psf the property is still a steal. Could it be that the reason for the discount was the buyer/ new owner will have to deal with the residents, now squatters not the state? The issue here is definitely more than legal rights. Was the buyer aware of the squatters when they purchased the land, what was the status of the squatters before the land was sold to the buyer, legal occupiers of state land with permission, if so, does it mean that once ownership transfered from state to private, status of legality change too? These are questions that only Koh Tsu Kun, UMNO and the developer can answer.
#17 by dawsheng on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:34 am
But a number of Hindu Rights Action Front (Hindraf) activists have seized on the residents’ predicament, and turned the dispute into a racial issue. – The Malaysian Insider
Although this report is not very fair to Hindraf but in this case I can agree.
#18 by dawsheng on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:50 am
By SV Singam
The opinions and conclusions are entirely mine. Feel free to correct me if you think I am in error.
The land now called Kg Buah Pala was occupied by settlers more than 200 years. Some 150 years ago, David Brown, who then owned the coconut plantation there, gave the land to the settlers for them to continue their farming activity. A written document exists to prove this. After Brown returned to Britain, the State Government took over the land and proceeded to collect annual TOL rent from the villagers.
In 1999, the villagers applied for the land to be gazetted as Heritage Land. But the then government dragged its feet over the matter and failed (or refused) to take concrete action.
I have no idea how many people were privy to the fact that a developer called Nusmetro Ventures had a plan to develop condominiums on the land occupied by Kg Buah Pala. I also have no idea when the project was launched. But I do know that, as early as December 2007, even before any land transfer had taken place, prospective buyers were already discussing the launching price and putting down deposits.
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/23900/84/
#19 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:00 am
dawsheng … I read that posting about the land being given etc. I feel its dodgy, was it ever argued at the Federal Court or just another coffeeshop talk? But you are most correct, more info on how this problem came about would do well for everyone.
Monsterball … let’s be nice la and not drive him away ok! We do need some entertainment. True or not?
#20 by dawsheng on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:10 am
Just imagine if today Gerakan is still the state government and Koh Tsu Kun is still in charge, Penangites should be patience with LGE.
#21 by House Victim on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 2:56 am
1. k1980 is correct that the Penang Government must convince the People and the Federal Government that the Residents have the Rights of claim.
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2. The Penang Government must the Chronoligical Events, similar to the PWC report to tell the Public or the Federal Government where it has gone Wrong. Who to be responsible, the Government or the Persons.
3. As mentioned in
http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/01/penang-kampung-buah-pala-controversy-koh-tsu-koon-should-speak-up-as-to-whether-he-would-make-amends-for-his-decisions-as-penang-chief-minister-by-securing-federal-government-grant-to-penang-state-g/
The DAP Government should conduct a DUE Diligence exercise on ALL possible matters that could drag DAP Government into BIG and LONG problem, such as this one. So that liabilities can be chased after ASAP within the Limitation Period when they had been purposely done with BIAS or FRAUD. This case is a Good Starting Point to show the Ability of DAP Government. And to be able to chase after the PERSONAL liability if it has been done with Fraud or BIAS.
a) The sale of the land at much below Market Price is an obvious Fraud or BIAS. Even if there is no noise from the Residents, any New Government should it nevertheless. Telling the People the Government has to REMEDY besides normal operation.
4. IF LGE CANNOT SORT OUT WHO AND WHAT KIND OF LIABILITIES BE FOUND, HE IS NOT HELPING ANYONE, THE PUBLIC, OR, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TO UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION.
5.
a) Take NO BALL from the Residents, if they do not have the Rights!
b) Take KTK and others to court, if THEY should be responsible.
c) Cancel or Correct the sale if the Contract had been done with OBVIOUS BIAS and Fraud!! If this is not within the Power of CM, then, get a Court Order to do it All Consdequences should be passed onto those causing the Fraud or BIAS!!
d) A Contract should VOID by itself if it it starts with BIAS and FRAUD!! NO CONTRACT CAN BIND A PARTY TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WHICH IS APPARENTLY NOT JUSTIFIED FROM VARIOUS ANGLES AT THE START!
6. Besides the Chronological Events, a copy of the Contract, the file on how the land had been alienated leading to the issue of the Land Title to the purchaser, should be opened to the Public.
7. I believe the “Kampung” land need to be converted into Residential Land or even Condominium Land before they can be used for building Condominium. Such conversion should be opened for OBJECTION to the Neighbourhood as specified under the Town & Country Planning Act (TCPA) as well as other Act governing Road and Sewage, etc. . The chart below can be for reference.
http://www.mppp.gov.my/html/themes/MPP/images/custom/Memproses_Permohonan_Kebenaran_Merancang.gif
ALL Departments concerned must provided their Opinion/Report showing the influence of such a Project, and HOW MUCH efforts and Money will be involved by various Departments before a Housing Project can be materialized. So, the sales of the Land under Market Price is not only a Loss of Price ONLY!!
USUALLY the Objection procedures are ABUSED by the Authority. Therefore, there are many LOOPHOLES to be corrected if LGE really want the matter to go along to Rules & Regulations.
The DAP Government must learn it well to bring Order to the Management of the Urban and the Housing. So that this can help to management other States when time comes!
I BELIEVE THE HBP OF USM CAN OFFER MORE ADVICES ON SUCH MATTER. .
#22 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 9:18 am
House Victim …as you say, no one really knows the truth without a chronology of events. Till then perhaps its all this absurd because it was just not well handled by LGE and friends, this does not mean they are at fault though.
#23 by k1980 on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 11:25 am
Continue to argue until the cows and their herders come home to Kg Buah Pala
Kg Buah Pala – Seeking understanding and solutions
By SV Singam
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/23900/84/
#24 by House Victim on Sunday, 5 July 2009 - 1:42 am
SpeakUp:
1. I believe you are well verse with the Housing procedures and matters in Malaysia, including Penang. Do you think the “Normal” efficiency” of the Malaysian Government, including Penang, can go through all the necessary Applications of Land Conversion, Planning Permission and Building Plan Approval, etc. with the necessary Investigation, comments from the various Department concerned in that Kampung Project within 2007/2008? When People in the neighborhood should be advised in Advance with Details if they want to “Object”?
2. IF LGE wants to pick Genuine Loop Holes to RESTORE the Rules and Regulations in any Housing Project including this Kampung one. Any experienced person or those knowing the Rules and Regulations can point out a lot. THIS HAD BEEN THE MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENTAL CULTURAL IN THE PAST 20-30 OR EVEN 50YEARS!!
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Following is a Simple “NEW ” but Common Example I picked up today regarding “Condo”
In the BrezXXXXX Condo leaflet during their recently launching, following wordings are found in one of the popular leaflet:
a) heading: the Brezxxx Condo Living @…….
b) Enjoy the new state-of-the-art-condominium.
c) Maiin features:
. Infinity Swimming Pool
. Club House with gymnasium
……
When asked if the Club facilities will be properties under the “Management Corporation of the “Condo”, the answer is: they are owned by the Developer.
Should Developer retain Club House as their Properties for a Cond? Or, are they selling Condo?
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I was told the Developer is a State Company!!
3. They have Advertising Permit no..
The Question is: Can they put up should wordings when the Club House is to be owned by the Developer? Or, those monitoring Advertising monitoring Department on Housing matter been doing their job?
#25 by House Victim on Sunday, 5 July 2009 - 2:40 am
1. The Land Office should have a file that can at least tell the land history of that Kampung in related to that District. That will give a better picture of what it could be – a Kampung land for agriculturial, or a Reserved land for the District (where it should not be subject to re-alienation), etc… This is where the story should start!!
2. The State Structural Plan is another reference on what that place of land should be.
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3. For the case of Wangsa Baidrui started in 1984/86. it was not revealed until 2007 that it was part of the Water Retention Pond for the whole Subang Jaya when People are screaming for a Town Park to be “Gazetted”!!
a) But, the Town Park was well specified on the City Plan since 1979 or earlier when Subang Jaya was created and Developed!!
b) Such land are “reserved land” for that particular purpose (Water Retention Pond) and CANNOT be re-alienated. and cannot be for residential purpose because of the Monsoon Rain Regulation nature of such pond.
c) But, it was re-alienated to PKNS for a Residential “Condominium” Project – the Wangsa Baiduri and most of the rest of the Town Park within the Water Retention Pond area was issued with a Title to the Original Developer of the Subang Jaya!
Similar situations were/are in fact very popular in Selangor, at least!!
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The Example of Subang testified what SHOULD SURELY RESTRICTED to be done by the Government Officials were bluntly done. Therefore, to find Fault on land matter should not be a big problem if one CARES to find one!
#26 by SpeakUp on Sunday, 5 July 2009 - 3:29 pm
House Victim, answers are as follows:
No.1 … the right to object is a formality, happened really well in KL for one rich area because it increased the density over what the rules or laws allowed. In this case you will end up with people objecting to changing their lives, please allow them to rear the cows;
No. 2 … I don’t know what LGE wants to do, if I were him first thing is to check and look into what was presented by both sides in the High Court, Court of Appeal and Federal Court, that will give a real idea of the facts of the case and the issues involved.
Then look into the land transaction BUT one question, is it for LGE to undo any wrongdoing? Does LGE have the right? I am unsure.
Why? Because he does not live there, the State Government is not the party aggrieved, I am unsure. If there is any wrong doing, the current villagers can bring an action against the registered owner and defeat their title under the NLC. Looks like they failed at the Federal Court level too;
As for club house etc. it should be common property, see the sale and purchase agreement, if that is so then when the residents committee is ready, they take over, does not belong to the developer.
No.3 … the advertising permit is about the developer’s need to confirm with the Ministry of Housing rules. That they have a permit to advertise the project and also the duration with certain guidelines as to what it must contain. E.g. developer cannot now say subject to changes or S&P terms etc. That is no longer allowed. It does not concern what they wanna advertise about FACILITIES available.
The issue of the clubhouse and all should usually be contained in the Deed Of Mutual Covenant. Its usually there. This document will be signed when you got condos or gated communities.
#27 by House Victim on Sunday, 5 July 2009 - 11:41 pm
SpeakUp, thanks your technical input.
Kg Buah Pala
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1. What I am trying to say is LGE has a lot of space in the matter due to some Loop Holes in the procedures are due to be found there. Such as Conversion of the Use of Land and Building permit.
In KL, my understanding is only a few place with People conscious in “Objection” and having experience and access to Object, then, there it could have done, sometimes! Some are done so because the Government or Developer needs the “formality” to turn Government Reserved Green Land for Housing Project.
I do not believe they are for the sake of the People!!
2.
a) LGE, being head of the Government, should get a full picture from the Land Office to compare with what had been submitted by both parties. I believe the Public are seldom be able to get the Full Picture of the “history” of the piece of land.
b) From my understanding of some court cases in Malaysia, no Judge really bother to ask the parties concerned to get what should be CRUCIAL to the case but to judge what are made available “as is”.
An example is the Emko vs Wangsa Baiduri case, where the Judge did not even bother to ask from the many parties being involved, the Developer, the Purchaser, MPPJ, even for a copy of the Development Order (Building Permit) on that case of dispute on the Common Facilities and the obligations of MPPJ or the Rights of collecting Maintenance fee by the Developer (which is not the land owner!!) on public amenities inside the project even after Strata Title been issued and MPPJ had collected Assessment which were to provide the Maintenance and Service of what were described by the Developer.
d) In reality, HOW MANY CASES ARE REALLY DONE WITH JUSTICE with Professional Ethnics of Lawyers and Justice of Court in Malaysia?
3. I am sure, any new Government (from Opposition) MUST do the Due Diligent. In this case, LGE for ALL Fairness must get to the bottom of how the SALES had been manipulated. NOT necessary because some Residents are making Noise.
a) HE owes ALL Penangites the answer
I) HOW a Kampung being converted into Housing Project?It cannot be done without Resettlement of the Residents. ?
II) WHY the land was sold under Market Price?
b) Legally, the Penang Government being a Contractual party has liability to remedy, NOTWITHSTANDING who comes to rule.
c) If a place of land had been “ILLEGALLY” occupied for years, the operation of the City Council and the Land Office must had been sleeping for the same period, causing loss of Revenue and Resettlement problem or even environmental problems..
4. LGE has to justify the matter if ANYONE is making Political Problem or People are having grief. Or, WHAT are those LOOPHOLES
that need to be Plugged!
As I mentioned or indicated earlier, LGE can pass some of the Buckets – But, be sure to pass the Right ONE and to the Right fellows!!
Condo – A General Problem, not directly on the above Kg case.
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1. Club house – I believe, a lot of parties know. But, how can a Developer is selling Condo Live with Club to be owned by Developer, even NOW!!
2. What the use of an Advertising Permit when Developer can do as in Point 1?
The sales of some High-Rises in the Wangsa Baidrui was without Advertising Permit and list of Common Facilities and NO Deed of Mutual Covenant even when Schedule H of HDA was in force during that period. The Deed of Mutual Covenant is also a BIG Loophole when Common Facilities should be governed by Strata Title Act. The NONSENSE is why THREE ACTS to govern the Same Unit of a housing?
THE ACTS (LAWS) had been running since long long time ago. But, how many BIAS or abuse of Purchaser Rights they had been input through Amendment of Law since 1990?
THOSE ACTS WERE FOR THE MINISTRIES CONCERNED TO GRAB POWER BUT THEY NEVER DO THEIR OBLIGATIONS!!
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The Kampung case is a Good Chance for LGE and DAP to show to the People how well they understand and administrate with the State Procedures, and how they can Manage “shits” from the BN Government.
IT’S TOUGH BUT SHOULD BE POLITICALLY WELL REWARDED IN THE FUTURE!
If they cannot handle even HINDRAF, Politically, it will be a BIG HOLE!!
GOOD LUCK TO LGE AND DAP!! People are waiting to see the Wisdom!!
Thanks again for your kind INPU, SpeakUP!
#28 by newchief on Tuesday, 7 July 2009 - 2:08 pm
if there’s proof that the previous government (BN) piled up this junk and pass the shit to the present government (dap) to clean up, wow…its so convenient.
najib now says no federal help….what-ever happen to 1malaysia?? maybe because this involve the poor indians and if helping them, its an admission of guilt on the part of bn !!!!
by the way, why is it always hindraf going for the headlines threatening here and there???? is it because they have nothing more to do with themselves???
also, i wonder where is SAMY VELLU & his fellowmen of MIC ??? why are they so QUIET!!!!???? i recall him making BIG NOISE to TAKE CARE OF ALL MALAYSIAN INDIANS!!!??? but where is HE OR MIC NOW when the penang poor folks need HELP!!!!
all bn does is SWEET SLOGANS and SWEET PROMISES ( for 50 years already ) and thinking of their own pockets only. its still a wonder there are still many of us who falls for these !!!! miracles do happen for BN, that’s all i can say!!!
#29 by House Victim on Friday, 10 July 2009 - 11:30 am
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/legal/general_news/bn_to_blame_for_kampung_buah_pala_fiasco_guan_eng.html
I believe the above report show a Positive Move of LGE. I wish the blog here will put Kampung Buah Pala an Individual Topics for easy tracking.
However, it remains essential to “surface” if the Residents have any Rights of Claim on the matter. The History of that piece of Land is the basis points and IF that piece of land been converted from agricultural to residential or Condo.
The Penang Government must be firm to chase after the DEFAULTS of those mis-appropriating the Rules, especially with Abuse to the Rights of the People – at least the Penangites.
When the Federal and KSK refused to act on the matters, IT MEANS THAT LGE IS SOLELY AUTHORIZED TO ACT ON HIS OWN (ON BEHALF OF THE PENANG STATE GOVERNMENT). So, LGE you have FULL HAND to deal with it!!
GOOD LUCK!!
#30 by House Victim on Monday, 13 July 2009 - 3:31 pm
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/13/nation/4308167&sec=nation
1. LGE should not refuse to meet any legal representative from any “Rightful” resident if he is preparing to meet up Residents or Committee of the Residents.
2. But he is correct to refuse any lawyer who is under the order of Bankruptcy and with heavy complaint of breach of duty, breach of trust and even with assaulting clients.
3. The basic point remains if the Residents have Rights of Claim so that they can meet up with LGE on legal claim. IF NOT, the meeting with the Residents should be on Humanity and therefore, the Residents are NOT in any position to bring in ANY LEGAL Representative!!
4. LGE should order the land office to provide the whole History of the Ownership and the Use of Land as well as the procedures of alienation and conversion of the land resulting the sale of that piece of land for further consideration.
5. Nullifying the S&P of that piece of land is essential as the price is not Right. The damages should first be claimed from those responsible. Whether the land had been alienated and converted properly should be other points to act. Any nullifying of the S&P should also be prepared that the Buyer will claim but same should be passed to those having faults in the approval of that deal.
#31 by House Victim on Friday, 17 July 2009 - 4:42 pm
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/17/nation/4336045&sec=nation
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1. Should any reasonable minded “senior” lawyer “blast” Sedition over a CM just because the CM has a fair comment in reminding the Public that a converted Singh should has changed his name accordingly after conversion?
2. A “sensible” reaction could put a question of Defamation if CM had made a False Comment onto him that cause him to loss his “Reputation” and NEVER with accusing of Sedition! The lawyer knows pretty well LGE has made a Fair Comment! The Lawyer knows pretty well his Reputation can not be lowered any more!!
3. When and how Darshan been appointed as Legal Advisor to the Residents Committee?
IF PANTAI POLICE ACTS ON HIS REPORT AND PUT PROBLEMS TO LGE, LGE SHOULD ASK WHAT THE PANTAI POLICE HAD DONE TO POLICE REPORTS MADE AGAINST THIS LAWYER FOR CHEATING, CRIMINAL ASSAULT AND …. FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR AGO!!
4. He forgets that his “Crazy” acts are well known!
a) Claiming Nonsense Million Damages with NO Substance in his Claim onto Judges when acting for Clients.
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=9932
b) A lawyer on bankruptcy
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/bar_news/berita_badan_peguam/court_declares_lawyer_a_bankrupt.html
where he had taken suits recklessly on Penang Sport Club despites of his bullies on chaining up the Club.
c) Did he act Fairly and Rightfully for Chin Peng, Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal and other clients?
d) Why he needed to call up Police to chase off his clients when he cannot even provide copy of his said work to his clients?
5.http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17215/high-chaparral-with-darshan-singh.html
a) The Penang Government should send a copy of the above video of Darshan to the BAR to ask for a Disciplinary Investigation on what he said.
b) Same copy should be sent to the Police to inquire if Criminal Defamation and/or Sedition had been incorporated in his words. How many of his words can be accounted for misleading or confusing the Public? Such as by related the Farlim case with this one, and, …
c) Did he make a Fair Comment on the Court case, the law, the PK Penang Government, the Court. etc..
d) If all he said are truth, why didn’t he fight for the Residents in court but saying it to be Political after the BN Government has gone?