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#2 by monsterball on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 1:41 pm
It’s more crisis of corruption exposed.
Imagine the crisis of Malaysians…having to face a police officer without confidence…to file a report.
Even murders are known to run away….with the police eyes closed.
#6 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 4:16 pm
Leadership whether on part of government ministers, administrators, bureaucractic officials and authorities would include moral leadership.
However, how do we define what is ‘moral’ leadership and character?
That’s correct – if we’re modern, democratic, rational society but are we? Is there really such a society ?
Yet thereotically a modern democratic and rational society will seek in its leaders what is relevant and honest.
Whilst private sexual morality is a plus rather than a minus, the lack thereof is no big issue in the bigger balance of considerations because essentially such a society is itself not hypocritical: it accepts private sexual peccadilloes on consensual basis as a natural human frailty that even the most moral will occasionally fall into lapses. It is a society that accepts sex with no hang up, that views it a natural biological imperative that is essential for replenishment of human species, the excessive restraint and repression of which leads to neurotical disorders!
In such a society, leadership is a amalgamation of attributes like a team-buildering ability combined with courage and vision to stand by what is right repudiating that which is wrong, a person responsive like trustee to beneficiary needs of those governed, who takes strong position for universally acclaimed positions on Civil Liberties, Rule of Law, Equality, Accountability and Transparency of Governance and against universally conedemned positions of Racism, Bigotry, Hegemony and exploitation of the weak by the strong!
In such an enlightened – liberal – society, sexual morality is drawn at limits of demarcated upon harm : sexual exploitation of the young & the weak or underaged, non consensual sex by coercion and rape are “immoral” as well as criminal.
In such a society if a government minister were to be caught in compromising position in video clip, it is OK, if not an icon of accountability, if he claims responsbility for his indiscretion and is otherwise in possession of other positive leadership attributes. In such a society it is the “whistler” who stealthily caught him unaware in compromising situation that are bad.
In such a society a religious leader to whom the faithfuls counting amongst whom prominent politicians confided their personal and confidential sexual affairs for his views, guidance, advice and counseling etc received these personal and confidential information in trust and therefore ought not to betray that trust! This is a bad whistler.
But we’re not such a society. Here the whistler who breaches that trust is a moral hero and those with sexual indiscretions are immoral. Yet other whistlers of corruption (like RPK) are inacrcerated to bury his message.
Malaysians are not a homogenous lot : we don’t even have an agreement as to what is moral and what is immoral, we cannot agree who is the whistler and under what circumstances he should be protected, praised or condemned!
It is a society about which there’s so much differences of opinions and world views that confusion reigns.
So when one discusses “crisis of confidence” you have also to ask whose confidence is in crisis.
#7 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 4:31 pm
By the way what Reborn posted at 13: 49.33 and deleted is already in public domain reported in FAC news Tuesday, May 21. You can trust PAS to allow its KL headquarters to hold the press conference by the ex Grand Imam.
I agree that the contents are at this juncture “libellous” and “defamatory” pending proof of justification and probably ought to be deleted as precaution for reasons simply that defamatory and libellous materials even though already in public domain, are still defamatory and libellous if published here, which is not exculpatory of the Blog Owner/commentator!
However I am bit lost as to why OrangRojak’s posting today at 15: 22.20 was considered fit and proper for deletion. Though obliquely referential to what Reborn posted, there is nothing defamatory about what he said, is there?
#8 by OrangRojak on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 4:45 pm
I take it I’ve been censored for my own protection? Thanks. I expect if I use less circumlocutory language again, you’ll take me from my home in the middle of the night for my own protection? Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou. I’ll try to be less direct in future. You show me where the bush is, and I’ll beat around it.
#9 by baoqingtian on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 4:45 pm
I’m in the process of transferring my monies to foreign banks because come March 2009, the big spender will be our new PM and in no time he will wipe out the Rakyat’s money.
#1 by kftang on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 1:00 pm
What is happening in the country now?
#2 by monsterball on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 1:41 pm
It’s more crisis of corruption exposed.
Imagine the crisis of Malaysians…having to face a police officer without confidence…to file a report.
Even murders are known to run away….with the police eyes closed.
#3 by Reborn on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 1:49 pm
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#4 by bclee on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 3:19 pm
good article from Mr.sofi.
http://kerajaanrakyat.com/?p=1600
Skandal Calon Pemilihan UMNO Mac 2009
#5 by OrangRojak on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 3:22 pm
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#6 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 4:16 pm
Leadership whether on part of government ministers, administrators, bureaucractic officials and authorities would include moral leadership.
However, how do we define what is ‘moral’ leadership and character?
That’s correct – if we’re modern, democratic, rational society but are we? Is there really such a society ?
Yet thereotically a modern democratic and rational society will seek in its leaders what is relevant and honest.
Whilst private sexual morality is a plus rather than a minus, the lack thereof is no big issue in the bigger balance of considerations because essentially such a society is itself not hypocritical: it accepts private sexual peccadilloes on consensual basis as a natural human frailty that even the most moral will occasionally fall into lapses. It is a society that accepts sex with no hang up, that views it a natural biological imperative that is essential for replenishment of human species, the excessive restraint and repression of which leads to neurotical disorders!
In such a society, leadership is a amalgamation of attributes like a team-buildering ability combined with courage and vision to stand by what is right repudiating that which is wrong, a person responsive like trustee to beneficiary needs of those governed, who takes strong position for universally acclaimed positions on Civil Liberties, Rule of Law, Equality, Accountability and Transparency of Governance and against universally conedemned positions of Racism, Bigotry, Hegemony and exploitation of the weak by the strong!
In such an enlightened – liberal – society, sexual morality is drawn at limits of demarcated upon harm : sexual exploitation of the young & the weak or underaged, non consensual sex by coercion and rape are “immoral” as well as criminal.
In such a society if a government minister were to be caught in compromising position in video clip, it is OK, if not an icon of accountability, if he claims responsbility for his indiscretion and is otherwise in possession of other positive leadership attributes. In such a society it is the “whistler” who stealthily caught him unaware in compromising situation that are bad.
In such a society a religious leader to whom the faithfuls counting amongst whom prominent politicians confided their personal and confidential sexual affairs for his views, guidance, advice and counseling etc received these personal and confidential information in trust and therefore ought not to betray that trust! This is a bad whistler.
But we’re not such a society. Here the whistler who breaches that trust is a moral hero and those with sexual indiscretions are immoral. Yet other whistlers of corruption (like RPK) are inacrcerated to bury his message.
Malaysians are not a homogenous lot : we don’t even have an agreement as to what is moral and what is immoral, we cannot agree who is the whistler and under what circumstances he should be protected, praised or condemned!
It is a society about which there’s so much differences of opinions and world views that confusion reigns.
So when one discusses “crisis of confidence” you have also to ask whose confidence is in crisis.
#7 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 4:31 pm
By the way what Reborn posted at 13: 49.33 and deleted is already in public domain reported in FAC news Tuesday, May 21. You can trust PAS to allow its KL headquarters to hold the press conference by the ex Grand Imam.
I agree that the contents are at this juncture “libellous” and “defamatory” pending proof of justification and probably ought to be deleted as precaution for reasons simply that defamatory and libellous materials even though already in public domain, are still defamatory and libellous if published here, which is not exculpatory of the Blog Owner/commentator!
However I am bit lost as to why OrangRojak’s posting today at 15: 22.20 was considered fit and proper for deletion. Though obliquely referential to what Reborn posted, there is nothing defamatory about what he said, is there?
#8 by OrangRojak on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 4:45 pm
I take it I’ve been censored for my own protection? Thanks. I expect if I use less circumlocutory language again, you’ll take me from my home in the middle of the night for my own protection? Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou. I’ll try to be less direct in future. You show me where the bush is, and I’ll beat around it.
#9 by baoqingtian on Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 4:45 pm
I’m in the process of transferring my monies to foreign banks because come March 2009, the big spender will be our new PM and in no time he will wipe out the Rakyat’s money.