(Speech at the DAP Kuching Solidarity Dinner in Kuching on Saturday, 5th July 2008 at 9 pm)
In the past 36 hours, the country has been convulsed by the two contradictory statutory declarations by private investigator P. Balasubramiam over the linking of Deputy Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Najib Razak with the murdered Mongolian national Altantuya Shaariibuu.
A great debate has been going on since Balasubramaniam’s second SD yesterday contradicting his first SD made public on Thursday with such devastating effect as to whether the private investigator had committed the crime of perjury, liable under the Penal Code to an offence which carries a maximum of seven years’ jail.
I think this question is secondary. My immediate concern of the two contradictory SDs by Balasubramiam is not whether he had committed a criminal offence, but his personal safety and a new low in public confidence in the police and justice systems.
After the March 8 “political tsunami”, resulting in the unprecedented Barisan Nasional loss of two-thirds parliamentary majority, the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi assured Malaysians that he had finally heard their voices in the general election verdict and would seriously carry out long-delayed reforms in the institutions of government, especially in the three areas of judicial, police and anti-corruption reforms.
Apart from a lot of “hot air” however little has been achieved in the past four months, apart from ex-gratia payment to six judges who were victims of the 1988 judicial crisis and scandal – when the victims of the judicial darkness of the past two decades were not just the six judges but an entire generation of Malaysians who were denied their fundamental and constitutional right to independent and impartial justice.
This is why I had asked in Parliament what is the actual amount of the ex gratia payment paid to the six judges as Malaysians have the right to know as the money come from the public coffers. Somebody said the ex gratia payment is RM1.5 million each. I hope to get the answer during the Ministerial winding-up in the debate on the Ninth Malaysia Plan Mid-Term Review in Parliament next week.
With little to show in judicial, police and anti-corruption reforms, Balasubramaniam’s two contradictory SDs have served to highlight the institutional rot in our country plunging public confidence in the justice and police systems to a new nadir.
Balasubramaniam had said in his SD2 that he had made his SD1 under duress. In his SD1, he had alleged that he had signed his police statement in November 2006 under duress although the police had omitted all his information linking Najib to Altantuya because he had been in the police lock-up for seven days and just wanted to go home.
This was what Balasubramaniam said in his press conference on Thursday when releasing his SD1:
“If you have experienced being in a lock-up, definitely you will sign the statement. I have three children (to think about).
”I was arrested under (Section) 302 (for murder). What’s the reason? In the first place there was no reason for the police to put me in the lock-up. They can call me anytime to take a statement. I was the private investigator for Razak.”
Balasubramaniam was the very picture of being very relaxed and comfortable in his Thursday media conference when releasing his SD1, while he looked very strained and under great pressure in his SD2 press conference, where he did not say a single word.
It is not only Balasubramaniam who is under great test with his two contradictory SDs, but public confidence in the police and justice systems.
#1 by Damocles on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 8:06 am
Well said Uncle Lim.
Although there my still be fools who believe what the government spews out, I believe that the vast majority of Malaysians have woken up to what is going on in this country.
So, the more they try to fool the public, the more stupid they’ll look.
Keep up the good work Uncle.
#2 by Godfather on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 8:28 am
The Police and the AG are a law unto themselves, so who is going to investigate them ? We all know what is going on, but we are simply helpless to prevent it – and the only option is to change the federal government. No ifs and buts – changing the federal government is the only means of getting out of this eternal black hole.
#3 by kentutoyol on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 8:45 am
Correct Correct Correct…
The only way for Malaysia to be back on track is…
C H A N G E !!!
that what Malaysia needs!
#4 by concerned_citizen on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 8:45 am
We all know who is behind this. Definitely the horny monkey that wants it to be covered up. Don’t be mistaken that silly monkey is my neighbour’s pet. Don’t overjudge if you are not guilty. Hell is always closed to them who do lots of bad things.
#5 by pulau_sibu on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 8:53 am
Are we sure the one who appeared the second day was Bala? He looked like Bala, sounds like Bala.
Now Bala disappeared. I am not sure if he was sent by the police to meet the Mongolian woman through the explosive. He must be under protection but who can tell where he is now? May be he is preparing for the third SD.
The ACA is investigating IGP and AG. Would we expect anything coming out from there? It will be very questionable.
The IGP, AG, DPM and PM should all quit
#6 by despin on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 8:54 am
Simply put, this is between Anwar and Najib. They have no business dragging the whole populace into their sexual intrigues or preferences. The whole world must be laughing at us right now. While nobody believes a single word that Najib says these days, Anwar is not a saint either. For a “Prime Minister-in-waiting”, how careless and naïve can you get by having a mole planted from the other side to get so close to you? Enough said. We don’t care about you two. What we care about is the economy, stupid!
#7 by mickey01 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:03 am
Even if Bala is offered 10m ringgits by Najib & the gang and asked to migrate to another country for a time being or for good, it’s only peanut.
#8 by Loyal Malaysian on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:05 am
You have asked the required question!
But what will we hear?
The sound of silence!!
When the IGP and AG , who have been accused of fabricating evidence are still running the show we can be sure no change of any substance can come about.
#9 by toyolbuster on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:07 am
Immediately after Bala’s release of his 1st SD, what it has revealed to the public is more about the dark side of PKR than Najib’s voyeuristic acts as reported in the SD. I would like to question PKR as to why Bala was not given any form of protection and/or advice especially after such an explosive revelation of such magnitude. Even Anwar himself had to seek refuge at the Turkish Embassy, possibly to force a personal safety guarantee out of Pak Lah before releasing the SD at his PC. Between the day Bala signed the SD and the PC by Anwar, they had 2 long days to plan for Bala’s safe escape route (similar to a witness protection plan), including getting the best lawyers to be on standby should Bala be called up by the police. Instead Bala was left alone and being dropped off by his (was it lawyer) straight into the lion’s den like a sacrificial lamb. Now Bala and his entire family is missing. Aren’t we talking about a possible government in waiting here. Can we honestly believe that this blatant irresponsible act of not granting Bala any protection after all that he has sacrificed for, wouldn’t happen to us Rakyat should this government wannabe succeed into power one day. I can be a very strong supporter of PR, but i have just seen all the writings on the wall, and that scares the sh*t out of me.
#10 by mendela on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:15 am
Wonder why Bala was wearing a cap at SD2 press conference?
I suspect his head could be all bruised.
Try compare the pictures between SD1 and SD2, at SD2 Bala face was blacken and swollen.
Which SD did he under duress?
A picture tells thousand words.
#11 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:19 am
When P Balasubramaniam made the explosive SD1 only to make an equally explosive SD2 in retraction of it within 24 hours and then disappear with family,it does, in bystanders’ minds, confirm suspicions of many that SD2 was made under duress rather than SD1, which indirectly of course suggests the (1) voluntariness in making SD1 and (2) suspicions of coercion/threat being applied by someone when he was in the Brickfields police station. All these suggest making him retract SD1 by SD2 is counter productive as it tends to reaffirm in the minds of many the likelihood of some truth in allegations in SD1.
I agree that only 1 of the 2 SDs is true but questions raised by Karpal Singh and some lawyers on whether he has committed an offence of perjury, liable under the Penal Code in respect of that one that was untrue is not only ‘secondary’ but irrelevant in context of the larger picture.
We need P Balasubramaniam to clarify what exactly happened. He is in a predicament with personal safety at stake and the last thing the lawyers should do is to talk about him committing an offence of perjury. For if these lawyers believe in the truth of SD1 then they must believe his retraction in SD2 was made under duress, and duress in a complete defence against any offence including perjury that he might have committed in respect of SD2!
I also agree with what Kit said that all these developments do not help in public confidence in the police and justice systems in context of political neutrality.
Concerns about P Balasubramaniam’s safety are legitimate because those who are behind his retraction in SD2 are concerned that he would not make a SD3 to retract SD2!
Hoever on the balance of probailities, he and his family are more likely to have gone into hiding while damage control and other neccessary actions are launched by ‘interested parties’ to control or reverse damage done by him so far.
His nephew, Kumaresan, refuted suggestions that Balasubramaniam had gone into hiding. If not, what other scenarios?
If he were targetted for disposal in the ‘Altantuya Shaariibuu sense’ to silence the possibility of his further disclosure by SD3, it ought not to be escalated to involve his wife and their three children as well! It does not serve interest of perpetrators to escalate the scandal of one murder to four!
It is unthinkable otherwise. Even in a totalitarian state, this is not done. Only Sicilian MAFIA does that!
However it is curious why Kumaresan chose to lodge a police report about Balasubramiam gone missing in the very police station coming out from which Balasubramaniam had gone disappearing with his family! I mean there are so many other police stations with which the report could be lodged.
#12 by KennyGan on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:20 am
If there is any doubt as to which SD was made under duress, Bala’s disappearance has proved beyond a shadow of doubt. Clearly a man who has been “freed from duress” will not disappear like that.
Many people have castigated his lawyer Sidhu for leaving him at the police station alone. (Bala was obviously tricked by a friendly phone call). Sidhu has replied, “But he was at the police station. How much safer can you get?”
Sidhu is perfectly reasonable. He did not drop him off at a den of crooks. But to many Malaysians, he may well have done that.
Looks like the police has a MAJOR image re-building to do!
#13 by lopez on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:20 am
If something happens to bala, then bee end must answer to the nation?
Some people abused and act without any flick of the eye, pure arrogance. As usual act of threat has show some results, but this time the threat is notice to all and not in silence.
No respect of law, anything goes as long have see for in the arsenal.
trait of a frustrated wannabe warmonger, having grandfathers who knew nothing but sold themselves as mercenary has confused many alike. Itchy to fight but unable to find an adversary, but so unexpectably found one …right in boilhland.
One mountain high , another is high
All this while, this type of mistreatment has haunt us, how long more?
#14 by taikohtai on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:24 am
According to the PM, DPM, AG, IGP and all the apparatchiks down, Malaysians are all equal before the laws of the country.
But all their actions and deeds do NOT support their above contention. None is ever upfront as they often put out contradictory statements after statements.
In my younger days, I found it most amusing when judges wear wigs, regardless of gender. TDM must have also thought the same, hence he had them all neutered so that all doubts are removed ie how many male judges have any balls left?
Unless the rule of law is been enforced without any fear or prejudice, there is no way Malaysia can call itself ruled by democratic means. Its still jungle law out there!
#15 by Bigjoe on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:43 am
Trust Sdr. Lim to focus on the issue despite all the noise out there. Its why I want to talk about all these talk of ‘politics distracting us from the issues’ that is going around including some bloggers.
Now is not the time to give up on politics no matter how crazy it looks.
Firstly, we have to ask ourselves why there is these craziness in the first place? If Badawi had delivered on reform in 2004 as he promised, it would not have come to this. We don’t have a working judicial system, ACA, AG and police to quickly deal with the issue quickly and move on.
Secondly, what is so bad about these craziness? There are a lot more and worst scandals in other developed countries including in Japan, Korea and it does not distract them from doing their work.
Thirdly, if people believe that this govt can deal with the really tough issues of rising global inflation and income disparity, they are fed too long on NEP and subsidies. Take the shift in 9MP with more spending on corridors, Sarawak and Sabah etc – it makes little difference to prices or income of poor AND mostly about taking care of BN’s politics machining. Have people so quickly forgot the miserable failure of revamping the public transport again and again? Does anyone really believe what they do now even come close to dealing with the challenge? Not by a mile.
So let the politics continue and Malaysian must look at it as a challenge to themselves to focus on the issue – Why don’t we have institutions and mechanism to have dealt with these issues quickly and avoid the rot it has become.
#16 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:45 am
Anwar’s nemesis is jumping with joy; and Anwar is pulling his hair off! Soon there would be nothing left to pull. At least he could negotiate for a discount with his barber!
RPK has come out with an outlandish theory that it was all a ploy orchestrated by none other than Abdullah to keep his adversaries busy, involved and distracted as he strengthens his hand. That’s vintage RPK. Soon even those Special Branch boys would have lost track of what the guy is alleging and on whose side he is.
The old man as usual is having his share of the shindig enjoying watching his two adversaries destroy each other.
#17 by mybangsamalaysia on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:48 am
All the best YB LKS.
I wish to see DAP leading the country together with other of its component parties. Also thank you for working effortlessly for these years.
#18 by bystander on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:00 am
ACA investigating IGP and AG is only for show. verdict is obviously no evidence. bala is obviously under polis protection so that he cannot retract SD2 until najis is all clear. IGP could be with or without the instruction of najis behind this retraction. he has a lot to lose as well. asking a crook like IGP to investigate a crook like IGP. laughing stock.
#19 by drmaharajahrk on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:04 am
Its strange……..
when Anwar was accused of sodomy, he immediately sued his former assistant for tarnishing his image
when Najib was accused of murder of Altantuya, he doesnt want to sue Balasubramaniam for tarnishing his image…..
You dont need to go to Oxford to analyse this scenario
#20 by lawrence chin nyen chiong on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:23 am
What we suffered now is exactly as in united States in the Mid 60’s. With the great depresion & in stability of political scandals plus lots of huha going on. American paid their price getting thru it with lots of pain, but Malaysian paying the price for current situations are rather beyond the affordable price tag.
Sooner or later, we will face with lots of “real” un-employment & high taxes are being slap & i don’t think we can take this after shock. Our currency will be almost worthless if this can’ be resolved. International trade will be impossible because we will pay a hefy amount in exchanging for peanuts.
Can you afford this ? I know i can’t bare the price tag !
#21 by vincent on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:24 am
Don’t know what the ACA is wanting for ? Should they start investigate these SD1 & SD2 now ?
#22 by deja vu on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:26 am
we are now in a land rule by tyrrants assisted by thugs in disguise as the police and the judiciary. we are doomed. don’t say we are voting them out come GE13 because the new man after AAB (and don’t say AAB will still be around come GE13!!) will make sure he ‘wins’ hands down.
he’s no gentlemen; he does not understand fair play; he’s our version of mugabe/amin. we are doomed. there’s nothing we can do anymore. every move we made to make sure we do not come to this had met we failure because only they can decide what the outcome is.
and i know very well we are not the type that will pour into the streets to bring them down. the numbers for reformasi that we have seen 10 yrs ago will not be repeated and even that number is a far cry from what is really needed to be effective. will i be on the streets?…. sorry NO. i believe my answer to this represents the majority. we either live with it or we GO.
it’s a SAD day….
#23 by deja vu on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:31 am
bystander…. u got it RiGHT!
#24 by pulau_sibu on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:36 am
Where are all the fortune tellers?
Can they tell us when will be the next prime minister and who will he be? (if it is ‘she’, we know it will be Azizah)
Can the fortune tellers find out where is Bala?
#25 by mingshing on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:36 am
Our economy is getting worse…high inflation rate and things can eat and also cannot eat are price shooting up. If our politic influence in the country still cannot settled out and still play play bising bising.
Sure all die hard.
#26 by madmix on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:39 am
The way to get to the truth is to investigate the allegations in SD1 overseas: in Singapore, Hong Kong, korea and Paris. Spend money hiring PI’s in those countries to get information.
#27 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:43 am
The front page of The Sunday Star 6th July talks about Malaysians being ‘fed up’ of allegations and counter allegations arising out of poltical bickering between Anwar and Najib; acording to Marina Mahathir, “there are more important things in life like how someone is going to feed his family; that Ahiruddin Atan (Rocky) is taking 48 hour break from blogging anything on Altantuya and sodomy issues.
I hope YB will not follow suit.
They have all missed the issues. Altantuya and sodomy issues go to the heart and root of integrity and moral legitimacy of Malaysian political leadership now or in the future.
No doubt how someone is going to feed his family is alawys an important issue but to say that Malaysians are or ought to be more interested in bread and butter issues than moral legitimacy of Malaysian political leadership and its corollary – the professionalim and political neutrality of our police and justice systems – is to insult the collective inmtelligence of Malaysians and to reduce us to the level of sheep interested only in looking for where the patch of pasture is for grazing!
#28 by malimdeman on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:52 am
The rakyat does not trust our police, judicial system and the goverment anymore. Everything can change overnight! Boleh Boleh Boleh! Korek Korek Korek somemore lah, and the rakyat and country suffer.
See http://[email protected]
#29 by cmbss on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:01 am
Analysis – Sodomy Allegation and SDs; Who the real conspirators are? The invincible and power 3rd party behind all this?
Let’s track the issue and see if we can detect who the real conspirators are likely to be.
Anwar’s people accuse Najib as being the conspirator in the sodomy allegation, and vice versa i.e. Anwar’s people meanwhile being accused of masterminding the statutory declarations (SD) implicating Najib.
But is there a possibility that there is an invisible yet powerful third party who is conspiring to ignite a war between Anwar and Najib?
Let’s find out.
1) It would be extremely foolish for Najib to meet Saiful at the comfort of Najib’s residence barely a few days before Saiful’s police report was leaked to the media, if Najib is really part of the conspiracy to smear Anwar. And I don’t think Najib is that foolish. It looks more as though Najib is being set-up by a third party.
2) Why would Saiful would want to meet Najib first before lodging a police report? Who suggested to Saiful to meet Najib and who facilitated his meeting with Najib? The same third party?
3) How come it wasn’t the police but Anwar that leaked Saiful’s police report to the media? Who gave such info to Anwar? The same third party?
4) A photo of Saiful and Najib’s aide, and photos of Saiful with 3 other Ministers appeared on the internet in the middle of the night i.e. within hours of Anwar’s press conference. Is it the same third party, who has a ‘file’ on Saiful who sent such photos to Anwar’s camp in order to link Najib to the accusation?
5) Anwar claimed to have recently obtained some evidence linking the IGP and AG to some wrongdoings. Again, the same third party sent that dossier to Anwar?
6) Balasundram claimed that he made the 1st SD under duress. Is it the same third party that forced Bala to make that 1st SD?
7) Anwar claims the DPM’s office is plotting to assassinate him. Who feed him such ridiculous info? The same third party again?
[Balasubramaniam’s retraction statutory declaration was affirmed before commissioner of oaths Zainal Abidin Muhayat, bearing an address that has been traced to Zul Rafique & Partners – a pro-establishment law firm owned by Zulkifly Rafique who is Federal Territories minister Zulhasnan Rafique’s brother. Raja Petra has many articles on this legal firm]
An invisible and powerful third party behind all the above?
Think about it.
Now, assuming if Anwar’s sexual tendencies is true as alleged (even 10 judges agreed with that. See
1) Dr M: Court ruling doesn’t mean Anwar didn’t do it
2) “If we count, we will find that all the 10 judges who heard the case of Anwar sodomising Azizan (Abu Bakar, his former family driver) agreed that Anwar committed sodomy, although the two (judges) used technical reasons to not find him guilty,” he said in his blog Che Det.
i) Is it a possibility that Saiful (being a jambu..) is being ‘planted’ in Anwar’s office as a way to ‘induce and trap’ Anwar (even without Saiful realising he is being used) by the same third party? (Well,one way is to find out from Saiful who suggested to him and facilitated his entry into Anwar’s office).
2) Is there a possibility that there sodomy case did happen as alleged (as it was a trap laid by the third party using Saiful even without the latter’s knowledge), and its exposure is however being manipulated to link to Najib (again, by the same third party)? So that a war will ignite between Anwar and Najib?
No doubt such exposure at the end of the day is putting the Government in a bad light, thanks to Anwar’s powerful spin and propaganda machine. No doubt Paklah as the head of the Govt is the one affected since confidence in his Govt is being eroded by claims of conspiracy and link to a murder case etc.
But such bad publicity for the Govt has no immediate and tangible impact at all since the next general election is 4-5 years away!
Having said that, however, if we were to compare between Paklah, Najib and Tun Dr. M, the impact of such allegations (both alleged sodomy and SD linking to Altantuya’s murder) have varying effect on the three of them, with Paklah being the least affected!
Why?
The mainstream media is having a full day recapping the recent sodomy allegation to the 1998 sodomy charge against Anwar; implying that a political conspiracy was hatched by the previous Administration at that time, . thus putting Tun in a bad light. Even the IGP and AG are now accused by Anwar to be part of the conspirators back then.
At the same time, the Statutory Declarations (By Bala and RPK) gave bad publicity to Najib.
Despite all these, notice that Anwar (through Wan Azizah) actually met Paklah to seek help and assurance from him. So in essence, Paklah personally is not affected (in the court of public opinion) at all by those allegations. But Najib and Tun, yes.
Assuming that there is indeed an invisible and powerful third party which plotted and hatched the conspiracies to pit the two camps (Anwar’s and Najib’s) with each other, what is their main motive then?
Well, one can’t help but notice that the ONLY major political event coming up is the UMNO elections due at the end of the year!
With UMNO’s divisions in at least four states, UMNO’s Management Committee (Najib, Muhyiddin, Rafidah, Hishamuddin and Noraini) and even the majority of Supreme Council members putting strong pressure on Paklah to step down, Paklah’s position looks increasingly untenable. Judging from the mood on the ground, there are even talks that some forces are hatching that Paklah won’t get enough nominations from UMNO divisions to even qualify to run as President!
Since Najib has indicated that he hasn’t decided whether to contest the presidency (thus implying that he is open to being nominated as President), the real battle taking place now is actually on the ground in UMNO’s over 200 division. And not in the media!
The only way (that the conspirators think?) for Paklah to survive politically is to ensure that ‘dirt’ sticks on his successor hoping that either one of these two things may happen;
1) Najib may succumb due to the pressure and declare publicly (or even privately to the Divisions) that he will not accept nominations to the post of President (Who knows maybe the ‘attacks’ on him may stop after that?)
2) Even if he does not do that and willing to be nominated instead, the bad publicity from those allegations (they hope) may deter UMNO Divisions from nominating him as President since he is tainted.
Makes sense?
Now, isn’t it clear from the analysis above that the third party (if it exists) is not only pitting Anwar against Najib, but is also ‘screwing’ both of them as well?
Isn’t it clear that Tun Dr. M’s name is also being dragged in the mud as well from the sodomy allegations? (kiling two birds wil one stone, eh?)
Isn’t it clear that the clear winner in both cases is actually Paklah? Mere coincidence?
Now the question is – At the end of the day, will we actually get to know the truth what happened in both cases (sodomy allegation against Anwar & Altantuya murder case)?
Or a round of deception for political expediency will take place, yet again?
#30 by ShiokGuy on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:07 am
Dear All,
I still belief that this is just DSAI’s game plan, and poor Bala is just one piece of the chessboard.
http://shiokguy.blogspot.com/2008/07/brilliant-game-plan-by-dsai.html
But it is a bloody good game plan and all the parties start to bite and fall into line. Very Interesting indeed.
Shiok Guy
#31 by k1980 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:21 am
PI Bala has gone missing: most probably now doing the hoola with bikini-clad local girls in the Bahamas (minus his wife, of course)
#32 by yhsiew on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:47 am
Kit,
No one is above the law in this country. Bala probably has committed the offence of producing false information in his first SD. Push for an INDEPENDENT investigation on the VERACITY of the 2 SDs to ascertain if Bala has committed the offence.
Karpal Singh wants Bala to be investigated and other lawyers want thorough probe on the 2 SDs.
#33 by 9to5 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:49 am
Which SD is the truth? Even a kid would be able to tell you which one is the truth:
Who is in a position to apply duress – Anwar and his merry, ragtag PR gang who don’t even have the power to hold rally, control over toll concessionaires and provide free water to Selangor residents or the DPM who has the whole might of military, PDRM, AG, Ex-PM and the judiciary behind him? Answer – you know who.
Who has the most to lose – Anwar with the PM post still in a distance or the DPM who already has the PM post in hand and his cahoots, the IGP and AG losing their jobs? Answer – you know who and his cahoots.
Who has the most monetary resources to pay for inducements – one who has to seek donations or one who has no qualms in wasting billions of $ of taxpayers’ money? You figure.
Which offence is the most grave – murder by using C4 to blow to bits or sodomy (offenses per se; not implying AI is involved) ? You figure.
Which time did Bala has the most confidence and relaxed – At the PKR press conference where he was jovially and freely answering questions or at the hastily organised press conference where only Bernama attended, Bala didn’t take any questions and since then he had been missing with his whole family? Which time Bala’s face didn’t look as if he had seen a ghost? Which SD was done not after visit to the police station? Answer – First SD.
Which duration of preparation of the SD where Bala has ample time to change it – First SD prepared over several months or the Second SD where it was made in less than 6 hours in the clandestine hours past midnight?
The person most people ignored and overlooked is ASP Tonny Longan. Americk Singh Sidhu said that Balasubramaniam had been speaking to Tonny over the telephone. Tonny is the common link in the disappearance of Bala as well as involved in the Altantuya court case as prosecution witness where both times were seen protecting the powers to be. Who is Tonny working for? Follow the trail of Tonny and the truth will be there.
It is very real that Bala could be intimidated or man-handled. Just look at his composure and mannerism before and after his first SD. He is seen wearing a base ball cap to the second formal press conference. So far have you seen anyone so casually and shabbily dressed for press conference which will be televised on national TV? Or is he hiding marks of being man-handled on his head? He looks frighten and forlorn in the second SD. He and his family even left his house in a rush without informing his relative to take care of his house, car and feed his 2 dogs?
Something is amiss!
#34 by ng.muming on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:53 am
If 1 of the SDs was made under duress, it can only be SD2, especially after he gone into Police Station and dont know what happen.
Bala may be committing perjury, what police who made him retract the SD1?
#35 by kanthanboy on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:58 am
…//The story of calling a deer a horse speaks much about the sycophancy of the Qin Court. What about us? Do we not have the same sycophants singing every time the great leader utters something? Black can be white, deer can be a horse as long as a person is in the good books of the leader.//… Malaylsiakini – Dr Hsu Dar Ren Jul 4,
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The verdict of the court of public opinion is obvious that SD2 was made under duress rather than SD1.
What about our judiciary? Sad to say majority of the judges will be calling a deer a horse.
What about MPs and ministers from UMNO, MCA, MIC and Gerakan an other component parties of BN? Sad and safe to say every one will publicly call a deer a horse.
#36 by KennyGan on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:58 am
Filing a false SD is an offence so Bala commited perjury with 2 SDs, one of which must be false.
The offence was committed by filing the second SD. Tell me what lawyer will advise his client to go ahead and commit an offence?
If he was under duress on the first SD, he must specify the nature and extent of the duress as lawyers have pointed out. And it must be a very serious one which threatens life and limb.
The second lawyer should be investigated by the bar council for abetting or inducing his client (if ever he was even appointed) to commit an offence. The fact that he is from a pro-establishment law firm is suspicious.
There’s a lot of dirt in politics now, but my feeling is that all the dirt is coming from the establishment’s side.
#37 by Sagaladoola on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 12:03 pm
My writing on this issue… I am going on strike….
Title: Malaysia Circus Politics: Bloggers Declare Strike-Disgust
Link: http://sagaladoola.blogspot.com/2008/07/malaysia-circus-politics-bloggers.html
#38 by Damar Noor Hop Liew on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 12:19 pm
I like these story lines/plots, full of mistery and considered as a Hollywood-class movie, u will never know until the ENDS.. Lets wait and c….. Every ones have their own word, their own role in these MOVIE— Movie Buatan Malaysia…Malaysia Boleh!!! You’re the BEST!!!! Finally, i hope that the actors in these movie have the chance to nominated as the Best Male Actor in the Berlin Film Awards, and lets the international know that We– Malaysian also can produce these prestige movie. We’re proud of u all.
Comments for these MOVIE: “Two Thumbs-Up”
#39 by RIPLEYS CSI on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 12:20 pm
Dear Malaysians and all Readers,
Now Malaysians no longer knew what to believe, who to trust, who to listen and we were “tired of reading about the political sandiwaras, dramas, especially online and media news”. Well, who is lying and cheating the public with all such allegations among all political parties such as Anwar sodomy case, Najib SDs, Altantuya murder case, Pak Lah step down motion, Dr M’s judiciary issues, Lingam tape, Ketuanan Melayu agenda, Gerakan closed shop, MIC -Indian snake and UMNO corrupt money and greedy stooges contesting in the party general election…etc.
Malaysians don’t know what to believe any more. Everyone politician is accusing the other. Malaysians feel that things have been blown out of proportion and the rakyat’s welfare is forgotten.
Malaysians from all walks of life are suffering daily. This is because of the five major reasons happened in Malaysia:
(a) Dr M made a worst blunder stupid political decision in his entire 22 years ruling the nation was to appoint a kurang bijak sleepy successor who destroy his dream party, losing the 12th GE and getting DR M sacked voluntray from UMNO with a big SHAME.
(b) Political tsunami wave in 12th GE changed the political scenarios in Malaysia and all dirty shit have surfaced out from past legacy of wrongdoings from UMNO & BN croonies to wake up Malaysians today.
(c) The Pakatan Rakyat formation and YAB DSAI supermacy to fight and defend the rights of Ketuanan Rakyat inflicted UMNO called for Ketuanan Melayu, played racist cards again and naming Indian as a Snake and called Chinese are migrants. The weaknesses of PM stands on his own feet failed and he required a big tongkat ali supports from 4th floor morons/goonies and little napoleans had caused him more troubles and his downfall soon.
(d) Retailation of cancelling mega projects in Penang and Perak. Revaluation of other all dream corridors projects in Pakatan Rakyat states by the loser BN govt are causing more harm and damages to the economy and financial well being of the nation. The devaluation of ringgit against forex exchange, the selldown of shares in Bursa Malaysia and the rising prices in inflated economy are proofs to show BN leaders esp PM & Co are incompentent, kurang bijak and less credible in managing the entire financial and economy of Malaysia. Unlike Dr M looks like “BAD PM” during his 22 years of iron fist rule but he had successfully developed the nation and avoided the fiscal crisis in Malaysia.
(e) Malaysians regretted their decisions knocking their heads on the walls for revoting Pak Lah to head the nation. Pak Lah unkind and kurang bijak announcement on increased fuel price above 42% in petrol and 63% in diesel price had caused a spiral of BIG FIRE in the economy and financial position in Malaysian. Malaysians faced with various increased of prices of goods and services for past 2 months and the daily prices kept on increasing beyond the control of stupid BN leaders.
Both politicians in BN and Pakatan Rakyat are fighting for personal interests and avoiding the people interest today. Malaysians called all politicians should solve the problems among themselves before making it a public issue. We are fed up with all useless problems in their parties and dont benefits the rakyat and nation.
Many Malaysians interviewed today lamented over the rising costs of living that was more difficult to manage now. More Malaysians are becoming slave workers need to do two or three jobs in order to meet their basis survival lodging and food end of the day. The lowing standard of living of Malaysians are becoming bad to worse to worst by days due to the poor governance and corrupted leaders decision to enrish themselves and caused the nation poorer by days.
The rich businessmen and politicians are becoming rich to richer to richest with the prices hike thanked the BN greed government for passing the price increased motion in the Parliament. How about the 100% increased in income for directors and croonies in CGL and plcs caused more damages to the economy in Malaysia ? The higher income group do not really have to worry about the rising costs of living, but it is the lower and middle-income groups who will be affected.
“There is too much politicking and too little performance. People expect quality leadership from elected leaders but instead are being served with a great deal of polarisation and there is a poverty of ideas,” said Transparency International president Tan Sri Ramon V. Navaratnam.
“The latest political development where leaders accuse one another of immoral conduct certainly does not boost public confidence and it gives Malaysia a bad international image,” said National Evangelical Christian Fellowship Malaysia secretary-general Rev Wong Kim Kong.
We agreed with both statements reported in The Star on Sunday, 7/7/2008.
Lastly, Malaysians cried non-stop daily and charged out loud, “Nobody is bothered about our suffering,”.
What the PM and DPM are more concerns about their own greeds to stay on power and let their croonies/ goonies to enrich themselves with the nation rich resources at the expenditures of the poor rakyat Malaysia?
Malaysians are so proud to say, MALAYSIA BOLEH !
Foreigners are so proud to say, MALAYSIA APA PUN BOLEH CAKAP CAKAP AJE !
Now let change all arrogant land corrupt leaders cum politicians today but not the good people running the civil services for the better future of Malaysia. If you and we believed the best ways to stop the political power play gripping the nation – JOM PROTEST & JOM TUKAR !” said Anak Tuanku Bangsa Malaysia.
We write without FEAR or FAVOUR in TRUTH ! IN GOD WE TRUST.
TRUTH FINDING FROM,
RIPLEYS CSI TODAY
#40 by chiakchua on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 12:44 pm
The country is in shamble!
1. The government leaders who are primarily UMNUputras are the most corrupted and no-liew (they’re just there by the connection, not actual capability) lot. Everyone knows that except themselves; they keep telling people to put their trust in the government, police and judiciary but we know they are most untrustworthy lot! What nonsense are they talking!
2. They don’t learn their lesson after the 308. They are still branding non-Malays as foreigners. They are the culprits who are trying to stir up racial tension but when you protest, they would play their ISA card!
3. They try to stir up inter-racial tension on the dialogue session on social contract by Bar council. What’s wrong to look into what has gone wrong with its ‘deviation’ from the original goal? They shouldn’t feel threatened if they have not made use of it as a mask to enrich themselves!
#41 by pulau_sibu on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 12:44 pm
Modern version of Arabic 1001 nights, authored by BN.
#42 by RIPLEYS CSI on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 12:58 pm
Read what the two ADUN and MP morons from UMNO had voiced out loudly and clearly in Perak Assembly and House of Parliament in Malaysia:-
(a) Sg Rapat ADUN Hamidah statement meanings to say “all INDIAN communities are worst than SNAKES”?
(b) Pasir Salak, Datuk Tajudin Abdul Rahman statement in Dewan Rakyat said ” Non Malays are immigrant races” to Malaysia.
The TRUE faces are coming out from UMNO when their Morons are heroing their serious racist ideas in Malaysia.
A DARK HISTORY FOR MALAYSIA TODAY.
We write without FEAR or FAVOUR in TRUTH ! IN GOD WE TRUST.
TRUTH FINDING FROM,
RIPLEYS CSI TODAY
#43 by k1980 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 1:00 pm
Go on lah, punch him, bijan! Kick him back, rawna! When you two have finished off each other, I can be PM until 2050…Heheheh!
http://themalaysianinsider.com/images/stories/2008july1/01paklah.jpg
#44 by I Malaysian on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 1:01 pm
Sometimes I’m extremely angered by the way the authorities orchestrating issues in Malaysia. Most of these issues are politically motivated and planned by our ruling party leaders themselves. But when it is countered with similar accusation it becomes the plot of opposition. How many such cases we had in the past fabricated by opposition? And than all of sudden our most responsible DPM would come out condemning dirty politics in Malaysia.
Ordinary citizens in Malaysia have almost lost their voice despite the overwhelming victory of opposition parties in Malaysia. Our politicians are busy to defend their position and power and for that willing to do anything. Hardship of ordinary people is not important for them anymore. We seem to be heading to a bleak future. What is the point as I see that; the police, the judiciary and head of powerful legal system all have completely enslaved themselves for personal gain and glory?
I wonder sometimes why good people turn bad. I think despite with all religious values the government boasts, the fact remains the leaders are actually bankrupts of any values and are real hypocritics.
We need to highlight our plights for good governance in Malaysia. We need good and honest cops who don’t take sides; we need an AG who sticks to the law of this country who refuses to be enslaved by UMNO masters or anyone for that matter; we need honest judges who could uphold judiciary to their last breadth and refuse to entertain politicians and others who have vested interest.
I also use to contemplate this idea at times. Suppose if I’m not married, suppose if I don’t have family responsibilities what I could do to compel this government to become transparent and honest? What if I call for all media of local and world to announce to them that as ordinary citizen I’m fed up and lost faith in Malaysia’s system of ruling and therefore I want to sacrifice my life by burning myself to die. It would be well worth if this country learns its’ lesson, wouldn’t it?
#45 by kosmoalpha on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 1:09 pm
uncle lim hav advised najis to go on leave..but,what about the AG??he is that one that decided n ordered to launch the investigation on those 6 characters surfaced in the ‘linggam gate’,n now he is being accused of ‘fabricating false evidence’!how can all these mess get cleared up in proper without fear n favor as the AG n the Police Inspector General are also entangled in these mess??
#46 by citizenwatch on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 1:14 pm
Protes Rally
Sorry for the digression, but this morning at 10am I was at the PROTES, an anti-fuel hike rally at Stadium Kelana Jaya, PJ. There were already about 15,000 people. The organizers are targeting to get one million people. It is a whole day event where some of the top braas from the PR will give speeches at 8pm. This morning the NGOs and some from PR parties gave speeches.
It has a festive mood, more of a family outing. Police presence was very minimal. Also some heavy media presence, local and international.
It is a relatively ‘safe’ anti-fuel price hike rally for the govt compared to the street demonstrations and lorry drivers protest in other countries.
There were many Malays and Indians. The Chinese are mainly from the NGOs. How nice if the Chinese community can make their presence felt. I hope they can be as hard hitting in the ballot box and blogging as in the real world to make their physical presence count. It is time to make a stand.
We can make a stand on other than the fuel price hike, but all other concerns like safety of Bala and his family, the Altantuya case, corruption, etc. by being there tonight at Kelana Jaya stadium.
Your words and comments in the blogs are priceless to fight for our rights. Now rally your family, friends and comrades behind you and make a beeline to the rally by 8pm and your physical presence are even more valuable than anything else now.
#47 by gundam on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 1:25 pm
i will be there tonite. i am of ethnic chinese.
#48 by sheriff singh on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 1:28 pm
Somebody else is also lying:
Either Raja Petra with his SD or the Head of the Military Intelligence, the Lt. Jeneral fellow. Who?
#49 by kosmoalpha on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 1:51 pm
‘sodomee’,how come anwar seems jus like to taste it every ten years??
‘sodomee’ was not launched duirng the 8-3-08 as tasted by anwar becos he was viewed as irrelevant by umno/BN??
‘sodomee’, must go on the market shelves becos anwar declared pakatan would replace umno/Bn by sept’08??
‘sodomee’ hav to be put up becos the rakyat are getting sick n edgy on so many ‘mees’ from the ruling regime..’mongggolmee’,submarinemee’,’umno-own mee’,linggammee’,fueloilmee’,inflatemee’,’AG-PIGmee’…jus too many to mention??
#50 by kosmoalpha on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 1:54 pm
we would not be able of making it to the ‘protes’ becos of logistic reason n lack of expenditure ;but we are wearing ‘red’ today!!
#51 by KennyGan on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 1:55 pm
The whole problem is that this govt is too scared of losing power so they will use any dirty, oppressive tactic necessary to cling on the power.
The A-G, the police and the judiciary are corrupted and damaged by Mahathir. These 3 institutions working in concert can convict any innocent man or let the guilty ones escape justice. Only the press stands in the way but the press is also damaged.
Only the alternative online blogsphere is functioning but will it be enough to stop these evil schemers?
Malaysians must take a stand and correct the rot or we will slide into a failed state like Zimbabwe or Myanmar.
#52 by kosmoalpha on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 2:07 pm
mahathir said he was interviewed for 3 hrs over the ‘linggam-mee’,but the rakyat by enlarge think that he should be interrogated for 30 days,day n nite non-stop!!!he is carrying too many luggages,too heavy with his 22 years skeletons!!he is the one that hav actually screwed up umno/BN!!umno/BN would not hav mutated to this corrupted to core ‘overnite’!!bodowi n najis could not hav single handedly mislead umno/BN to this stage if the grass root are right minded!!they are all scums now!
#53 by boh-liao on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 2:20 pm
Last Thursday (3.7), when P. Balasubramaniam produced his SD1 at the press conference, his head was not covered.
Last Friday (4.7), when P. Balasubramaniam produced his SD2 at another press conference, he wore a cap to cover his head, just like Durex. Was he under duress?
Where is P. Balasubramaniam and his family?
Ask Mohamad Nazri. He must know their whereabouts. He was the proponent of the Witness Protection Bill.
#54 by hongsichuan on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 2:49 pm
If I were Mr Bala, I would have gone hiding with my family, even if I know that my life is not being threatened, for the simple reason of escaping the attention of the media and public scrutiny. Irrespective of whether SD1 or SD2 is true, he had already lost his credibility one way or another. What’s more, there is now talk by lawyers (including Mr Karpal Singh) that he may be charged for making false SD (as one of the two SDs must be false). Even supposing SD1 contains only the truths, SD1 would have aready been neutralised by SD2 (at least from a procedural point of view). So there is no logical reason for the enemy of AI to see Mr Bala eliminated physically. I hope that after a period of time he and his family would be able to start their life afresh.
#55 by law1999 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 2:51 pm
When Bala made his SD1 no one look into his personal safety.
Now everyone is guessing what will happen to him.
We may never see him again!
Is understood.How the authority will handle this case.
Fairness only can be found in the dictionary. Obviously not in Malaysia.
Yes I agree we need not ONLY CHANGE but an OVERHALL for the whole govt system
#56 by milduser on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 2:52 pm
I just don’t get it. We say we have lost faith in the judiciary, the police and what have you, yet we have to use their “services” and get victimised all over again. The whole system is rotten to the core and yet we have to rely on them to try to get out of this catch 22 situation. Any solution, Uncle Lim, for the short term other than the “people’s revolution”. I doubt the “people’s revolution” can ever get of the ground in Malaysia without bloodshed, so to speak. The ISA seems to be still useful for the ruling government, dont you think, to keep the peace?
#57 by digard on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 2:59 pm
boh-liao,
“Ask Mohamad Nazri. He must know their whereabouts. He was the proponent of the Witness Protection Bill.”
I guess that Bala is ‘protected’ one way or another. He is the witness to a SD forced upon him in a state of duress, so he has witnessed at least one serious intimidation. I think PDRM has a hand over him so that no untoward incidents make him release his statement prematurely.
#58 by mendela on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 3:06 pm
In 2006 a Swedish minister quit her post because she was accused of forgeting to pay her TV license fees.
Here in Bolehland, even the accused were faced with so many big scandals and hard facts, they would not quit!
This is power hungry UMOputras at its best.
All these scumbags only bring big shames to Malaysia! @#%@%
#59 by milduser on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 3:14 pm
If I am correct legally, SD are normally used for commercial purposes. For example, if you apply for a loan (maybe RM1.0 millions) form a bank, they may require you to sign a SD to affirm that you are not a brankrupt) despite a credit check ( during the pre-computer days, even nowadays database may not be up to date) to protect the bank. Should information subsequently surfaced that you have been a bankrupt, the bank can take criminal action against you by reporting the matter to the police. You have falsely made a statement and if convicted be jailed for 7 years. This a simple example of the use of an SD. Directors of Public and private companies commonly and regularly make SD for their annual audited accounts as required by law. Duress and retractions are normally not an issue. Signed confessions or retraction of crime are normally associated with duress and the likes. In conclusion, I would say the SD2 is more a mockery of the law.
#60 by catharsis on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 3:41 pm
IF THIS YB CAN COVER THE ENTIRE SKY WITH JUST ONE HAND – HE MUST HAVE A VERY BIG HAND…………………………….
PETER 5:12
ABOVE ALL, MY BROTHERS, DO NOT SWEAR- NOT BY HEAVEN OR BY EARTH OR BY ANYTHING ELSE. LET YOUR “YES” BE YES, AND YOUR “NO” BE A NO OR YOU WILL BE CONDEMNED
#61 by kenyalan08 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 3:49 pm
The Bar council should seriously look into the lawyer preparing for the 2nd SD whether any “abuse ” is committed . Has the lawyer be influenced by certain ” higher authority ” . The integrity of lawyers is at stake . Future , how can the Rakyat trust the lawyers in town .
Dear YB LIM ,
Gather the support of all PKR MPs , continue to pressure the PM , everyday of Parliament meeting to demand the DPM , AG , IGP and the minister link to Ligam case to go on leave until their cases are settled .
#62 by limkamput on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 4:06 pm
undergrad2 says: “The old man as usual is having his share of the shindig enjoying watching his two adversaries destroy each other.”
Ya, only a mega moron would think that the old man would want to create a situation that he himself may not be able to handle. A typical mega nincompoop talking.
#63 by Hishamuddin on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 4:21 pm
YB,
The news in the market goes that Balasubramaniam have been given RM 5 million and passage to India have been arranged for him and his family.
With this, now we know if the 1st SD or the 2nd SD is the real one.
#64 by law1999 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 4:49 pm
The best way to change things is on the POLLING stations
We missed it by some number on 08-03-08.
The opposition will get better scores if not due to foul play by federal govt. as claimed on RPK website.
Peaceful demonstration give some breathing space to vent out the RAKYAT frustration. If the MONKEY in power resort to threat like using ISA. It only shows immaturity and abuse of power.
Personally, it never benefits anyone to solve problems by bloodshed. Look at IRAQ weapons are easily available and life is so unpredictable.
So NO NO to violence at all cost.
Change only come after MATURITY in the RAKYAT.
The basic being able to DIFFERENTIATE between RIGHT and WRONG.
SUPPORT those who are RIGHT.Not depends on the COLOUR of theirs skin, RELIGIONS or Political Party they belongs.
The sad thing is AFTER 50 years Malaysia achieved MERDEKA status. They are many STILL cant differentiate between RIGHT and WRONG. So Malaysia want to be a DEVELOPED country by 2020 is just a DREAM. DEVELOPED as I understood is in the MATURITY of THINKING of the RAKYAT not how many TWIN TOWERS or KL TOWER we got.
So
SD1 is TRUE or FALSE?
SD2 is TRUE or FALSE?
I believe the above should be the 1st test.
#65 by Evenmind on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 5:27 pm
You don’t have to be a phd holder to determine which SD was true, we are sick by all the manipulation by this jackass govt. they think they are the smart and the rest of us are all bloody fools. Bala to must have been threatened by C4, just look at his pictures during the second SD, he was definately looking lost. when the corrupt are in power, they have the power to do anything, so making someone dissapear is a piece of cake., Forget 2020 , at the rate we are going even 2090 is impossible for for M’sia to be a developed country, We are Zimbabwe and Nicaragua in the making, if this govt persists.
#66 by gundam on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 5:35 pm
http://www.weebly.com/uploads/7/4/5/0/745037/8265824.jpg
#67 by KennyGan on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 5:57 pm
“The news in the market goes that Balasubramaniam have been given RM 5 million and passage to India have been arranged for him and his family.”
Why leave in such haste without informing his nephew and leaving his 2 dogs without food? This rumour is not creditable at all.
Malaysakini reports that police are looking for him and he “could be overseas.” They are even asking Interpol for help. Can’t the police check from immigration records and airline records to be sure? Is this another sandiwara being played out?
I fear the worse. And the truth will come out because those playing the sandiwara are bumbling and incompetent.
#68 by kopi kau kau on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 6:13 pm
Yb Lim.
I am seeking your advise, after saiful been sodomise …..
Anwar saw me and also invited me to his Condo and also sodomise me.
Could you arrange for a meeting for me to seek advise from our Najib?
I tried to call him but he is too busy to entertain me. Please tell him that I am also willing to sign whatsoever SD as required…… I do not not need any money and I only want revenge. How come he only entertain Saiful and not me!
I am depending on you to clear my pain and suffering and shame that I have to endure ….
#69 by ccy on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 6:52 pm
Regarding Bala’s whereabout, we may find some ‘bits and pieces’ at Puncak Alam…
#70 by ccy on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 7:00 pm
Really hope that Bala and family are hiding in a safe place and will send to his lawyer a CD containing a self-recorded video clip that explains the whole truth…. God bless.
#71 by boh-liao on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 7:34 pm
Malaysia’s brand of justice, started since MM’s rule: if you don’t like what the BN are doing, seek justice through the police and courts. The IGP, AG, ACA director, and the judges will look after your complaints. Everything will be taken care of. Don’t worry. No public rally is allowed.
#72 by Mirage on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 8:24 pm
Anonymous said:-
Which SD is done under duress??? We can see the 2 Photographs of PI Balasubramaniam when both SDs are done to see the truth, it looks very obvious that the latter SD is done under duress of the threat of C4???
Why not similarly put Najib Tun Razak to a poll to see whether Malaysians of all walks of life believe that he is also innocent and not lying that he never would have known Atlantuya as he had claimed???
C4, a military explosive, is not something you can buy at a supermarket and can use this to have blown up the Mongolian Woman into smithereens. If the command did not come from the highest level will the policemen and the C4 expert take the commands & instructions from a nobody by the name Razak Baginda to carry out the tasks of the henchmen to murder and took great efforts to destroy the body of the Mongolian Woman beyond any trace but God is great the heinous criminal conspiracy is exposed. There were no motives for the nobody by the name Razak Baginda, the fall guy, the Policemen & C4 expert to commit murder and destroy the Body of the Mongolian Woman except to get cash or seek promotions through dubious means from the one and the only Power with a motive for this heinous crime.
#73 by ngahc on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:21 pm
who can we trust now? Anwar? Najib? IGP? AG? blogger?
#74 by dr_zombie88 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 9:52 pm
sochai la they all…sked say sked la…haiyooo..god will give justice to everybody…people say the truth aso kena..then how to maju???say wanna maju…go to hell la…we want DAP to lead the country!!!!!!
#75 by Godfather on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:23 pm
What is wrong with the leadership of this country ? I mean, a person makes startling statutory declarations, gets hauled up by the police, retracts the original statutory declarations, goes missing with the entire family AND NO ONE IN GOVERNMENT EXPRESSES CONCERN ABOUT THE TAMPERING OF JUSTICE ?
I can understand if one or two bad apples or even 10 bad apples are part of a conspiracy, but what about the rest ? There must surely be some good men around who are appalled by the “lawlessness” of this particular situation and are prepared to stick their neck out for justice. Or am I simply too optimistic and the entire barrel of apples is rotten ?
#76 by limkamput on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:53 pm
yes godfather, we way beyond redemption. we are doomed, finished, kaput.
#77 by milduser on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 10:54 pm
Politics on the national level and the work place level are the same – no justice. Look around around in your own work place. Fair and square? the only difference in workplace politics is either the BOSS sacks you or you sack the BOSS. fullstop. See what happens when two equal powerful BOSSES battled it out! Justice! Justice! you proclaim. Go demonstrate in the company corridors and see what happens?
#78 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:19 pm
“….and no one in government expresses concern about the tampering of justice” Godfather
Not when the maker himself does the amendment, and ‘un-declare’ what he earlier ‘declared’. If he did it under duress, then it is only the ‘tampering’ of his original declaration – not justice.
We are then left to decide which is the mother of all declarations?
#79 by cheng on soo on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:26 pm
How many people believe that the top police rofficers involved really do not know the whereabout of B. and his family? His 2 elder kids do not go to school come Mnday?
#80 by law1999 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:30 pm
Everything will come to an END
Even SADDAM come to an END.
So those guilty will come to an END soon
So be patient and they will come to an END in NO TIME….
#81 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 6 July 2008 - 11:35 pm
Malaysia has become a nation of people who like to declare.
They declare to customs they don’t have anything to declare when they land at airports.They declare they are not carrying any contraband. When they apply for jobs they declare that they have not been convicted of any crime. When they open a bank account they declare they are not bankrupts. They declare to their wives that they do not have mistresses. When they buy houses reserved for bumiputras, they declare that theirs is a first time purchase. Some even declare they are bumiputras when they are not. When they are caught in the act they declare they are not aware that it is against the law.
I even know one who declares he is a nincompoop!
#82 by limkamput on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 12:20 am
No mega nincompoop. You don’t declare anything. When you are caught naked in bed with a woman, you will still say, “honey, this is not what you think, we are just having a conversation here.”. That is you, the best of both worlds hypocrite who enjoy life out of the misery of poor countries. All these international parasites should be shot.
#83 by raven77 on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 12:25 am
Where is Bala…..
#84 by undergrad2 on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 12:26 am
Bala is not declaring!
Some left with nothing to declare, now declare what others declare.
#85 by badak on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 12:44 am
Legally with the 3 SD ,1 by RPK and 2 by bala.The courts have to call All those name in the SD to be present and be question by either the prosecution or the defenden.If neither side call them ,then they are not doing their job.Then the ALTANTUYA,S case will look like another case which is held in a kangaroo court.
JUSTICE MUST NOT ONLY TO BE DONE.. BUT ALSO SEEN TO BE DONE..
#86 by justmerm on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 1:32 am
Should it not be that the most immediate concern is the implication of Bala’s SDs? They would imply that the Altantunya trial is going on according to a prearranged script-no better than an L.A.Law drama! God help us if the guilty party is predetermined to get off scot free or with just a slap on the wrist. Can we not make an immediate petition for the trial to be postponed or be appointed new judges (like in the Hollywood movie ‘The Untouchables’) or be appointed international judges like the ‘Batu Puteh’ case OR IS IT ALREADY TOO LATE?
#87 by undergrad2 on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 2:02 am
raven77 Says:
Today at 00: 25.04 (1 hour ago)
“Where is Bala…..”
“CID director Bakri said Malaysian police had enlisted the help of Interpol and authorities in neighbouring countries to help locate the investigator.” AFP
The Investigator gets investigated.
Interpol will only raise their red flag on two types of persons wanted i.e. the first type is based on an arrest warrant, is issued for a person wanted for prosecution; the second type is based on a court decision for a person wanted to serve a sentence.
Bala is not a high profile criminal. You cannot even call him a criminal. He is not a terrorist nor a criminal dealing in human trafficking nor drug trafficking. Why should Interpol be interested? They have better things to do!
#88 by pulau_sibu on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 4:12 am
The police can promise to investigate.
But, are they credible?
If they are, are they efficient or smart enough?
#89 by kanthanboy on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 5:21 am
…//Can’t the police check from immigration records and airline records to be sure?//…Kenny Gan
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The immigration records of Bala and Family will be in the same trash can as that of Altantuya Shaariibuu.
It will be more relevant for the police to check the C4 inventory record of the Ministry of Defense.
#90 by undergrad2 on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 7:11 am
“Is anyone in government concerned about the implications of the Balasubramaniam SDs as it relates to police interference?” GODFATHER
Look, the guy made a public statement, reduced it to writing, had it sworn to show how serious he was, and even had an Indian Anglophile lawyer sat next to him acting as his spokesman pro bono. He got his 15 minutes of fame and left.
He was soon after seen to be having a hot meal of curry kepala ikan with a police in mufti (very much to my envy since I could not), happily chatting away Bollywood style. Some said he was later dropped at a police station by the same Indian Anglophile still acting pro bono. Not long after he was seen to emerge from the same police station, immediately sought the services of another Indian lawyer who like the first one was also acting pro bono, made a statement, had it reduced to writing and had it sworn. He then had another 15 minutes of fame. I suppose what pains most of us is that the second statement makes nonsense of the first one and we don’t know which to believe! Now why can’t we accept that he had an epiphany whilst in the police station – and believe the second one, which tells us not to believe the first one.
Now the guy has gone missing, hopefully not with the help of the Indian Anglophile lawyer acting pro bono who later announced how shocked he was that the guy is missing – again Bollywood style?
You asked if anyone in government service is worried at all about the implications. Well, someone who was in government service for thirty years is and very much so – and he has three letters after his name PPN given to him, he proudly announces, by the Agong.. Does that answer your question?
#91 by Kathy on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 7:58 am
The police will say that they will investigate but in reality, they would just shove it under their piles of complaints and files that they are suppose to “investigate”.
#92 by undergrad2 on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 8:12 am
Does that ring a bell, Kathy??
#93 by taiking on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 9:12 am
Bala’s lawyer expressed his surprise and told the press that he and Bala went through the first SD for months before Bala finally signed it. That is quite normal especially if someone wants to be certain that the contents are factually correct and accurate.
One round of questioning and twenty four hours were all that it took Bala to do a U on the SD.
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#94 by NewDAP on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 10:43 am
Ex-PM, Mamakthahir – Smart but Not Honest(Dishonest)
PM – ABB – Not Smart but Honest.
Next PM, Najis – Not Smart and Not Honest.
Better to have the Bisexual PM in waiting to be the future PM….
#95 by NewDAP on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 10:52 am
Not sure whether we will ever to find or hear from Bala and his family again……
If BN continues to be in power, Bala and his family my will continue to be classified as missing……
beware of the power of military and c4……
#96 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 10:57 am
In the course of my life, I have often had to eat my words, and I must confess that I have always found it a wholesome diet.
Winston Churchill
#97 by Cinapek on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 11:04 am
The STAR reported today that the police have been providing protection to Saiful. Why wasn’t the same protection provided to Bala? Isn’t his SD allegations far more serious than Saiful’s.
Cynics might say that the police are probably the cause of Bala’s disappearance. That precisely is the point because if the actions of the police are above board, it would be in their interest to keep Bala safe and sound and seize the opportunity to show the whole world their impartiality. As it is now, Bala’s disappearance has again raised more questions than answers about the intervention and involvement of the police in this whole sordid affair.
#98 by lextcs on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 11:12 am
it is clear that bala SD is ‘worked up’ in the 1st place. Coz it takes about 2 months to fabricate and 1 day to deny. Question: why is DSAI there? to reap the rewards? Looks like its PAKAT all the way!
#99 by badak on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 11:50 am
This whole thing have more twist and turn then a BOLLYWOOD SOAP OPERA.The best part INTERPOL is involve.Firstly is BALA and family officialy listed as missing.Has his kids gone to school.
Can a person with such a high profile.Just slip out of the country without the help of some powerful hands involve .
Why do not get the whole CSI CRIME TEAMS involve.At times the goverment thing that all Malaysian are a bunch of PANSIES.
#100 by badak on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 11:55 am
By the way the demo organised againts the rising fuel price.WAS NOT ORGANISED BY THE OPPOSITION.BUT WAS ORGANISE BY THE SELANGOR STATE GOVERMENT.IN THE STATE OF SELANGOR.HEYYYY BN IS THE OPPOSITON IN THE STATE.
#101 by citizenwatch on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 12:03 pm
(Godfather Says:
Yesterday at 22: 23.59
What is wrong with the leadership of this country ? I mean, a person makes startling statutory declarations, gets hauled up by the police, retracts the original statutory declarations, goes missing with the entire family AND NO ONE IN GOVERNMENT EXPRESSES CONCERN ABOUT THE TAMPERING OF JUSTICE ?
I can understand if one or two bad apples or even 10 bad apples are part of a conspiracy, but what about the rest ? There must surely be some good men around who are appalled by the “lawlessness” of this particular situation and are prepared to stick their neck out for justice. Or am I simply too optimistic and the entire barrel of apples is rotten ?)
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The way one by one ministers have been coming out to discredit Anwar and alleging he is diverting attention from his sodomy charge looks like one grand design of a conspiracy of BN, more specifically, UMNO. “We are in this together, we’ll sink together”.
There are claims of a third party involvement and instigation in and to the Najib-Anwar ‘spat’. Assuming that’s the case it can only point to a micro situation of a perennially sleepwalking individual seeking political survival with the assistance of an Oxbridge pseudo-intellectual primate together with the think-tank of Level 3a (we are superstitious here).
#102 by Godfather on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 12:05 pm
The NST quoted a senior police officer as saying that Bala could have been held by “interested parties”. Helloooooooo…..there is a missing person’s report made by a relative, and holding a person against his will is a very serious offence. If the Police can’t find Bala, then I suggest that either the Police is a conspirator in all this, or the Police is totally incompetent.
Take your pick, IGP. Not that you are particularly brainy since the only reason why you are where you are is because you did an incredible service to UMNO when you were an investigating officer.
#103 by rainbowseahorse on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 12:06 pm
We can expect : “Yes I & my family are missing”, followed by “No, we are not missing. Just taking a break from all the excitement.”
#104 by citizenwatch on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 12:53 pm
Why So Quick to Dismiss SD and It’s ‘Keeper’?
Rehman Rashid in an article in NST July 5, titled “RIP to Statutory Declration” is an obvious attack and demonisation of a legal instrument which these past weeks gained prominence . His convoluted and verbose (his usual style) article seems to put to the backburner and questioned the credibility of SD.
To give SD and its ‘keeper’ in the form of Commissioner of Oath premature epitaph or orbituary has the ulterior motive of dissuading the people from believing the damning SDs the people have been exposed to.
One of BN’s tactics and strategies of misinformation by their psudo-intellectuals.
#105 by tunglang on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 1:52 pm
Bala could have been intentionally ‘kept away’ to prevent credible witness in relation to the ongoing Altantuya case. For Bala’s & his family safety? Nope.
Who did this is definitely an authority biased towards a fair trial. Disgusting. Watch out for another C4ed of some witnesses after 23rd July of Altantuya’s case closing.
#106 by pulau_sibu on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 2:31 pm
BALA, siLA BAlik
Scooby Doo, Where Are You!
Bala bala, where are you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-HOyx_FH4E
#107 by lakilompat on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 2:53 pm
“NO ONE IN GOVERNMENT EXPRESSES CONCERN ABOUT THE TAMPERING OF JUSTICE ?”
Who dare, even Koh Tsu Koon has been muted for 17 years in Penang. Remain silenced give him 5.70 billion
Now YB Lim Guan Eng has been calling for 2 mega projects, the federal cut & punished the Penangites -4.7 billion, left 1 billion. What can an ordinary rakyat do? the penangites suffer the most, Tsu Koon keep quiet just to remain and serve his party but for 17 years Penangites get nothing but increasing in cost of living. A plate of char koay teow cost RM 0.80 in 1991, Johor cost RM 1.50 in 1991, now in 2008 a plate of char koay teow almost the same as Johor.
We are left with 1 billion how to develop Penang? WHO CARE! the FEDERAL GOVT. is fit enough to run the country wealth? if not why not we CHANGE! but that will have to wait another 4 years.
#108 by badak on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 3:39 pm
With or with out BALA.. Both his SD is good enough for the defence to call up NAJIB and ROSMAH to court to give evidence.Now that their names are mention they can,t hide behind their position.
If NAJIB is not called then ..The ALTANTUYA murder will always haunt him..Can you imagine the PM of Malaysia involved in a murder.This is what foriegn ministers will be talking during their tea break.
#109 by justmerm on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 4:13 pm
Following Bala’s 2 SDs what is important now is to ensure that the Altantunya trial be really fair and impartial , not just a show following a well written script with the verdict already decided beforehand. Perhaps we should ask for the present judge and prosecutor to be removed and replaced by persons chosen by someone we can trust like His Majesty Yang DiPertuan Agong.-just an idea -OR IS IT ALREADY TOO LATE?
#110 by kritikus on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 10:34 pm
BALA’S SD2 AND HIS DIAPPEARANCE AUTHENTICATES HIS SD1 AND THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT……… ANY ENGLISH SPEAKING PERSON CAN SIMPLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON…
THIS TYPE OF SCHEMING AND PLOTTING BY THE CULPRITS HAS BEEN GOING ON AND ON AND IT IS NOT SUPRISING ANYMORE……
BRAZE YOURSELF MALAYSIANS ….MALAYSIA IS CERTAINLY DOOOOOOMED AND CURSED…
MALAYSIA HAS EMULATED SODOM AND GOMORRAH… AND CONDEMNED BY THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH IN THE QURAN AND ALSO AS REVEALED IN THE INJIL….
IT IS A MATTER OF TIME WHEN THE PUNISHMENT WILL COME AND IT IS IMMINENT….
ALLAH PROTECT THE INNOCENT
#111 by KS R on Monday, 7 July 2008 - 11:01 pm
YB
I believe Police have threaten Bala. Najib/IGP/AG should suspanded immediately until case investigated and proven. I also do not know who can be truested. I hope Agong should set up Royal commission and also should place PR members in the Royal commission whereby BN cannot be truest anymore there is no truth very scary.
I also very sad inspite of this, THE RAKYAT STILL TRUEST BN AND VOTE THEM GOD PLEASE OPEN THE BLINK EYES
#112 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 8 July 2008 - 12:31 am
Guys! The truth is Bala is undergoing a facial make over with a plastic surgeon somewhere in the States.
#113 by justmerm on Tuesday, 8 July 2008 - 1:30 am
WHOA…HOLD ON EVERYONE…JUST REALIZED SOMETHING…DON’T YOU ALL SEE…IT’S STARING AT US RIGHT IN THE FACE AND WE STILL DIDN’T KNOW IT!… BALA LEFT US A CLUE WHICH SD IS TRUE AND WHICH IS FALSE WHETHER HE INTENDED TO OR NOT…GUESS WHAT???….THE SMS THAT WAS ALLEGED SENT BY DSNR TO RAZAK BAGINDA! YES!!! I’m sure if its TRUE it’s recorded in the phone company’s computers somewhere for billing purposes. If it does not exist then the truth of Bala’s first SD is doubtful…. now if only someone can get a legitimate copy of those records!!!
#114 by passerby on Tuesday, 8 July 2008 - 2:16 am
Whatever it is whether he and his family have disappeared or C4ed, this is his S.D. 3 that S.D. 2 was given under duress.
#115 by pulau_sibu on Tuesday, 8 July 2008 - 9:50 am
I simply post the message here and hope Uncle Lim may put it at the right place.
Why the noise now about US concern with Anwar sodomy accusation? US has made clear its position about Anwar to Syed Hamid in 2002. According to US, anwar was a political prisoner and the trial was flawed!
Please read.
http://www.state.gov/secretary/former/powell/remarks/2002/12275.htm
Press Briefing With Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar of Malaysia
Secretary Colin L. Powell
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
July 30, 2002
FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: Thank you very much and I am sorry to keep you waiting. I really appreciate Secretary Powell visiting Malaysia and I think that it has been a very useful visit. We have always looked forward to the visit of the Secretary of State to Malaysia. He has had a good discussion with the Prime Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister, and myself. We covered areas of bilateral interest, regional as well as international interest. All and all, we think that the discussion has been constructive. We were very frank. We were able to exchange views that will deepen and strengthen further bilateral relations. The U.S. is an important partner in the development of ASEAN and Southeast Asia as a whole.
SECRETARY POWELL: Thank you very much, Mr. Minister and I thank you and the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister for the hospitality that you extended to me and my delegation. And I agree with you fully that our conversations were thorough in discussing bilateral issues, regional issues and trade issues and a number of other issues that we have in common.
I have been looking forward to this visit for a long time and am pleased that I was able to stop here on the way to the ASEAN Regional Forum Meeting and I look forward to a subsequent visit here to spend more time and see more of the country. We are sorry that we kept you waiting and in the interest of time we will go right to questions.
FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: Yes, please.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, have you yet made a decision on whether you will meet your North Korean counterpart in Brunei? And Minister Hamid, did the United States ask anything of you specifically or offer you anything specifically to increase your cooperation in the war on terrorism? And did they ask for the extradition of anyone you have in detention?
SECRETARY POWELL: I haven’t made a decision yet with respect to my North Korean colleague. We’ll make a judgment on that after I get to Brunei.
FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: On the question of terrorism, I think this is one area where we have worked effectively and strongly with the U.S. and we are very happy with that relationship. And now we are looking at the specific areas of working together. I would not discuss what it is as yet, but we are looking forward to having something substantive between the U.S. and Malaysia where we can cover the region and where it will be a forum for discussion and for exchange of views, and I think it is very useful.
With respect to the extradition, we have agreed with the US that whatever – if they need for evidential purposes anyone in Malaysia, whom they need to interview or they need to discuss, they can go through the normal channels that we opened between ourselves and the US for this purpose.
QUESTION: Did your discussion with the Secretary this morning also touch on the Middle East issue? Would you like to share with us?
SECRETARY POWELL: Yes, we did discuss the Middle East in all three meetings, and I described to them President Bush’s vision as contained in his 24 June speech and his commitment to bringing into being a Palestinian state, hopefully within three years, living side by side in peace with Israel.
I described to my colleagues the efforts we have underway with respect to security transformation within the Palestinian community, with respect to our efforts to improve the humanitarian situation within the towns and villages of the occupied territories.
And I wanted to make sure they knew that the United States intended to remain fully engaged until the President’s goals for all the peoples in the region, for these two nations to live side-by-side in peace (inaudible) peace comes to a reality.
FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: In our case, we always believe that the United States has got the biggest role to play in order to realize the hope of seeing a peaceful Middle East. I think the Middle East conflict was going to be resolved and I think the explanation and the information and the discussion that we had with Secretary Powell was most useful and productive and we are very glad to know that the United States remains fully engaged to see a peaceful resolution in the Middle East.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, I was wondering if you had discussed human rights issues and particularly with respect to the treatment of detainees who were being held without trial in Malaysia who are suspected of having ties to terrorist groups? And Mr. Foreign Minister, I wonder if you could comment on whether you see any difference between those detainees and the detainees the United States is holding at Guantanamo Bay?
SECRETARY POWELL: We did discuss human rights in each meeting in the context of our counter terrorism efforts. I made the point to all my interlocutors that we still believe strongly in human rights and that everything we do has to be consistent with universal standards of human rights. We talked about the ISA which the Malaysians have used for purposes I am sure that Minister would be better able to explain. And I also touched on the case of Mr. Anwar Ibrahim in my meeting with the Foreign Minister.
FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: I think Malaysia places a lot of important to human rights. But I think in so far as exercising the universal standards of human rights at the same time looking at the national interests from the national perspective, we explained that we have never used the ISA for purposes of frustrating our political opponents. But it is used for purposes of ensuring that the peace and the stability of the country is protected. If anybody takes an action which will jeopardize our security, then we have to take action.
I think this type of exchanges and creating understanding is very good for us. With the United States’ position, we have got certain position that we hold. I think that it has been very friendly, we have reassured him that we believe in human rights, we believe in the rule of law, we believe in the independence of the judiciary but there may be differences at the end of it when those things are implemented on the ground. I think overall, we have no problem between ourselves in explaining the whole point of view. I think that’s all. Just one last question, and then we have to go.
QUESTION: Do you consider Anwar Ibrahim a political prisoner?
SECRETARY POWELL: Yes, as you know, we believe the (trial) was flawed. The Appeals Court has acted on the first charge and that is the end of the process as it is envisioned in the Malaysian law. But we have always felt that the (trial) was flawed, and we had a candid discussion about this matter. One of my associates met with his wife this morning as well, to express our interest and concern. Thank you.
FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: Okay, thank you very much. We explained our position and our position should be understood in that way, according to the rule of law and our judicial process. Thank you.
SECRETARY POWELL: Thank you.
Released on July 30, 2002
#116 by pulau_sibu on Tuesday, 8 July 2008 - 9:57 am
Daily Press Briefing
Tom Casey, Deputy Spokesman
Washington, DC
June 30, 2008
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2008/jun/106402.htm
QUESTION: Speaking of Asia. I was hoping you might comment on Mr. Anwar’s arrest in Malaysia that Arshad raised this morning.
MR. CASEY: Sure. I did get a chance to look into this a little bit here. And first of all, my understanding is that no formal charges have been filed, though this is an accusation that the police are looking into. The main point for us is that the rule of law needs to stand above politics. And we would certainly oppose any use of law enforcement or judicial procedures for anything other than legitimate purposes of the law. And as I said, Malaysian police are supposed to be investigating this accusation. I think you can talk to them as to the status of that. I would note, of course, that Mr. Ibrahim previously faced charges and, in fact, was convicted on a similar offense a number of years ago and that that conviction ultimately was overturned. So we would hope that there’s not a pattern here. But certainly we would be concerned that anything that is done, be done in a way that is appropriate, that is a legitimate investigation of charges that might exist under Malaysian law and would not be anything that was a politically motivated investigation or prosecution.
#117 by yhsiew on Tuesday, 8 July 2008 - 11:28 am
Bala’s nephews claimed SD1 was prepared 6 months ago.
http://www.malaysia-today.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9640&Itemid=1
#118 by al-jajawi on Tuesday, 8 July 2008 - 12:08 pm
I am getting very fed-up with the latest sodomy accusation against Anwar Ibrahim. I would have thought the BN govt has had a good lesson from the 1998 debacle, but apparently they have not learned anything at all. If you guys in BN are so afraid of losing your grip of the Fed Govt to the Pakatan Rakyat led by Anwar, then do something positive to win back the hearts and minds of the rakyat–like cleaning up the judiciary right away withou any more dilly dally, forming the ICPM, investigating Najib Razak’s involvement in the altantuya murder, etc. Najib had asked why he should be investigated since he has been denying the accusation all this while. It’s not enough for NAjib to deny the accusation–he must submit himself for investigation if he is so innocent. He should not be afraid if he is not involved–he has nothing to fear—unless of course he is involved in some way. Is he suppressing evidence? If he is thinking of becoming the PM of Malaysia, he must come clean. Malaysians do not want a criminal to lead the country.
#119 by shortie kiasu on Tuesday, 8 July 2008 - 2:39 pm
This PI by the the name of Balasubramaniam wanted to create a stunt and so that his name can splashed over the news in the press and in the electronic media, so called cheap publicity with no substance, and his lawyers are not advising him intelligently, but instead dancing to his tunes too.
The authority should leave him alone to dance his own monkey dance, and not waste public fund on pursuing him like the children “hide & seek” game.
Just leave him alone to have his monkey acts. Police have more urgent task at hand to ensure public security and order rather that one insane man.
Heresay carries no weight at all. Police should not be misled into chasing the the unreal.
#120 by dapforever on Tuesday, 8 July 2008 - 8:56 pm
i think Bala is already in oversea…he can easily get thru custom/imigresen department with the help of the BN government…high ranking people able to bring them out from this country…BN got $ to do so….IMO.
#121 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 8 July 2008 - 10:17 pm
Was Bala kidnapped by a team of body snatchers or is he the latest victim of illegal aliens in space ships?? Your guess is as good as mine.
#122 by TTDI_KL on Wednesday, 9 July 2008 - 12:15 am
undergrad2 talking to himself. getting old.
#123 by limkamput on Wednesday, 9 July 2008 - 7:58 am
undergrad2 says “One buttock talking to another – cheek to cheek!”
you are wrong again. it is my buttock to your cheek. you never learn, best of both worlds.
#124 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 9 July 2008 - 9:11 pm
What could be better than mine to your nose? LOL
#125 by good coolie on Sunday, 13 July 2008 - 6:03 pm
There must have been a matter of national security involved in the murder of Altantuya. No wonder there is so much high profile pulling of wool over everyone’s eyes, the latest being Balasubramaniam’s “volte face”.
Is C-4 related to mee sodom and the positive and negative of a single statutory declaration?
#126 by 7even Sins on Wednesday, 16 July 2008 - 2:31 pm
When SD’s about the murder of Mongolian beauty involving Najis & Roastedmah the police seems not so interested or perhaps “Kecut” to investigate. When someone’s ass is put in the spot light, UMNO & police went yahoooo, franzied, excited and maybe mouth-watery…!!! …Police only bullies those powerless Rakyat which by right they should protect…!