Royal audience with Perak Regent Dr. Nazrin Shah

I was granted an audience with the Perak Regent Raja Dr. Nazrin Shah after the swearing-in ceremony of engineer and PAS Perak Secretary Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin as Perak Menteri Besar at the Iskandariah Palace, Kuala Kangsar today where I personally apologized for any offence caused to the Perak Sultan and Regent

On Saturday, I had written a formal letter of apology to the Perak Sultan.

At the swearing-in ceremony for the new Perak Mentri Besar, three representatives from each of the three parties to the state coalition government, DAP, PKR and PAS (DPP) were invited to attend. DAP was represented by the DAP Perak State Chairman Ngeh Koo Ham (MP for Bruas and State Assemblyman for Sitiawan), Perak State Secretary Nga Kor Ming (MP for Taiping and State Assemblyman for Pantai Remis) and myself.

The formation of the new Perak State Exco, based on a 6-3-2 formula for DAP, PKR and PAS respectively, is the next step for the formation of the Perak DPP coalition government.

The greatest challenge of the Perak DPP coalition government is to be a government for all Perakians – Malays, Chinese, Indians, Orang Asli and others – capable of better looking after the interests and welfare of the people of Perak as compared to the previous Barisan Nasional state government, with greater accountability, efficiency, productivity, justice and integrity.

  1. #1 by devilmaster on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 6:45 pm

    Hoping Perak will end the NEP too. It is very important for Perak to follow Penang as this will be a great step to capture Bolehland in the next GE. NEP only breeds corruption and cronyism. The people have spoken. We should walk the talk now to end the NEP in Perak.

  2. #2 by drguna on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 6:45 pm

    Dear YB Lim,

    Good luck with the formation of the new state government. Secondly is it possible for you and the leadership of PAS to sit down and work out some common ground wihout falling over each others toes. The rakyat have spoken and given a mandate without looking at race as a barrier.I think if DAP and PAS is sincere about bringing change, a dialogue to find common grounds and objectives must be initiated. All religion preaches the same common universal values, it is the vehicle in which man chooses to travel that differs.
    Good luck again YB and god bless….

  3. #3 by LittleBird on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 6:48 pm

    How did the Regent respond?

  4. #4 by bentoh on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 6:48 pm

    Congratz to the formation of DPP Perak government… :D

    on the side note, it is still disappointing that Teng was denied for what he deserved, an (officially-announced-to-be-picked-but-seems-shaky-yet) exco, and a (confirmed-not-picked) DMB… well we all know Teng is not on the same track with many of the party leadership… but his talent and abilities are precious and priceless…

    I would love to tell you that DAP seriously needs to change… as much as the country needs the change… the current situation will not be able to suck in talents and worse still… retaining the talents…

    Anyway… as long as the “Hillary” is producing results… I’m ok with it… as for the “Obama”… he always get my, an DAP supporter’s support…

    Hopefully, the infighting in DAP Perak could be under-controlled…

    Best wishes~~

  5. #5 by Saint on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 6:49 pm

    It was a good move. Wishing you the best.
    That is all we can say now.

    Give a list of all EXCO members once appointed and their office email and office phone numbers to the public.

  6. #6 by petestop on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 6:50 pm

    Bravo, Uncle Kit… it takes a great man to admit his mistakes…
    even greater to fix it and move forward.

    I don’t think we will get any apologies from UMNO on the Perlis and Terengganu fiasco. So-called pretenders to be defender of the Sultanates.

    We should petition for YB LKS to be made a Tan Sri at least, maybe even a Tun…. eh ;-)

    Keep up the good work… we support you 110%

  7. #7 by PJUtara on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 6:51 pm

    Dear Lim,

    Lets go on with the goverment. As a minority chinese, I felt DAP, PKR and PAS has to go down to the kampungs and explain to the people that they place the people’s interest before them. Operate some kind of kenduri or gathering and explain to the Malays that their Malay rights will not be taken away.

    You need to counter the allegations that is propagated by UMNO racist. UMNO has all the corruption money in the world to create havoc in the opposition state. And they can do it everyday. So, going down to the ground and explaining to the people is a very important step now.

  8. #8 by P.O.T.S on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 6:52 pm

    It takes a great person to apologise for mistakes made, LKS has shown that he is a class above every BN person out there.

    The next general elections are five years away, DAP/PKR/PAS has very limited time to match up and beat BN’s fifty years of “track record.”

    The people are watching, and waiting either to re-elect the coalition government or expel it.

  9. #9 by democrate on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 6:54 pm

    Finally the weather has turned out from the dark to blue and cloudy’
    Well UMNO has nothing more Bark now since YB had been granted an audience with the Raja and personal apology too had already made. So what else UMNO hendak? just admit lah sudah kalah and tenggok sahja lah macam mana DAP/PKR/PAS akan membawa kemakmuran di Perak . the Cantonese speaking MB will be welcome by the Perakians……Hooray…..

  10. #10 by democrate on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 6:58 pm

    Sentence should be read as Nothing more to bark.

  11. #11 by showsomemercy on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:01 pm

    Like that is what we call gentleman! :) Ask Ali Gostan say sorry…
    Ask Khairy say sorry…
    they say to hell with you…

    Written apology to Sultan and granted permission for Royal Audience…

    What else do you need from DAP and Barisan Rakyat? ^^

  12. #12 by drmaharajahrk on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:05 pm

    Uncle Kit Siang,

    Suddenly I feel proud to be a Malaysian. My country has started to love me and look at me equally as the rest of us.

    If this coalition continues in this tempo, next GE all states will be ours including Putrajaya.

    It’s so nice to have a Malay Menteri Besar from the minority PAS who can speak Chinese and Tamil. Now who dare say PAS is fanatic and if we vote PAS we are in trouble.

    Merdeka ! Merdeka ! Merdeka !

  13. #13 by novice101 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:08 pm

    Good on you ! Take this initiative and move forward with the Rakyat. After playing the opposition role for so many decades this hard-earned victory should be treasured.

    DAP, PKR and PAS, please put your heads down and come out with a workable coalition. Keep your cool at all times for your opposition is waiting to see cracks in your partnership. Wish you well!

  14. #14 by grace on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:13 pm

    Yes. We are glad that you apologise to HRH Raja Nazrin. HRH is a very fair person. No doubt about his choice.
    Yes, now that everything is ettled, just get on with life.
    Remember the poor Malays, Indians and Chinese. your promise to help them. Let us hope that LGE succeed in helping them.

    Read that LGE did not move to his official residence because it has to be renovated to a tune of RM100,000. This is a good move. True to the spirit of the opposition, LGE and DAP are there to serve the rakyat and not to jolly at the expense of the tax payers money.
    Keep it up! GOD blessthe new state governments!!!

  15. #15 by showsomemercy on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:14 pm

    After 50 freaking long years only i can shout Merdeka! It’s ok, still not too late for all this! :) I love my country as much as i love all of you! :)

  16. #16 by deekay on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:16 pm

    Good to hear this. All the best!

  17. #17 by gofortruth on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:16 pm

    Uncle Lim
    It takes a bigger man to apologize and you are that bogger man! All Malaysians salute!

    Just got a chance to view this you tube, tears of joy just flow:-

    Take care uncle Lim and all the best to BR!

  18. #18 by gofortruth on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:17 pm

    Oops “bigger man”

  19. #19 by pendekar on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:18 pm

    From now DAP should start to get malay ….thrust them.
    In order to do that. DAP should put malay candidate in next PRU.
    Now how many malay become ahli DAP, if this situation still same ..and all malaysian people thingking that DAP is chinese monopoly ……

  20. #20 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:19 pm

    Aye, aye, Sir.

    Better days are on the way with this coalition. I’m hopeful. I’m optimistic. I’m somewhat euphoric.

  21. #21 by catharsis on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:22 pm

    ………………government, with greater accountability, efficiency, productivity, justice and integrity………………that do not see through PRISM EYES – Thank Goodness DAP is adapting to the needs and wants of the electorate


  22. #22 by chong on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:23 pm

    Congratulations on all the 31 state assembly men to form the state government. Syabas! Please work in a team and show that you can! with GOD bless, of course.

    4 years time is short, you have about 1400 days to do what you ought to do. Eyes are all on you now.

    Lim Kt, please get the feed backs from perak people regulary, if the Chinese are not happy with religious policies, please “hentam” them internally and let us know later, if the Malays are not happy with economics opportunities “all rampas by Chinese which cunning in businesses”, please “hentam” them internally also and let us know later.

  23. #23 by catharsis on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:24 pm



  24. #24 by gofortruth on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:29 pm

    If you have not seen this horse yet, here it is:-

    Together we wish DAP, PKR & PAS all the best!

  25. #25 by tokki20 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:34 pm

    Nice to hear this. This is just the beginning. Hope all DPP representatives will show patience and tolerance to make this coalition a success. For now, I’ll give my benefit of doubt.

  26. #26 by pendekar on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:34 pm

    to Chong …
    please be rational … not extreme in your agenda ….
    do not make situation ( malay / chinese ) more complicated
    PAS / DAP / PKR in the same bot now ….do not say about the kaum ……

  27. #27 by penang308 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:34 pm


    Remember in Penang on the 6th March, 20008. There were 60,000 of us shout out “CHAI CHUAN PIAN, THOU WOR CHIEN!” 7 times at Han Chiang football field.

    I guess now is the time to shout “MERDEKA, MERDEKA, MERDEKA, MERDEKA, MERDEKA, MERDEKA, MERDEKA” for PERAK!


  28. #28 by penang308 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:36 pm

    Sorry, last sentence should read “CONGRA AGAIN TO DAP/PKR/PAS. typo error!

  29. #29 by Bobster on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:38 pm

    Congrats YB Lim. It is the rakyat hope that the coalition will stand the test of time and constant bombardment from many angles. When the coalition strenghten one day, by God’s grace you guys will be ready to take the nation! We will continue to pray for your well being and wisdom granted from above in governing the affairs of a few states to prove that BR can do it. Yes, JUST DO IT!

    Best Wishes,

  30. #30 by sungaisiput on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:45 pm

    good on you old boy.In so doing you have made us proud and happy.This is healthy and good for all who were so deeply invovled to see real change.Next time have a kit kat when pressured to make sensitive statements.It might help…The rakyat deeply appreciate your gesture of goodwill..

  31. #31 by Lee Wang Yen on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 7:58 pm

    PAS akan terus mempertahankan prinsipnya
    Roslan SMS
    Sun | Mar 16, 08 | 4:32:16 pm MYT

    PAS saya yakin akan terus mempertahankan agenda Islam dalam apa keadaan sekalipun, kerana ia Parti Islam, kekalahan atau kemenangan tidak akan merobah hakikat itu. Sama ada PAS pembangkang, PAS membentuk kerajaan negeri, PAS bersama BN (tahun 70an) atau kini PAS bersama PKR dan DAP, tidak sesiapa pun yang bekuasa mengikis atau mematikan matlamat perjuagan PAS itu.

  32. #32 by billgates on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:00 pm

    Syabas YB LKS. That is the most honorable thing to do to apologize and move on. The clock is ticking and I hope DPP government will be able to fulfil its promises to ensure that it is not a government for 1 term only.

    Don’t let success creep into your head.

  33. #33 by jetaime.f on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:03 pm

    sounds like meeting Queen Elizabeth – protocols, formalities and all….
    well done…..

  34. #34 by nahoda on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:06 pm

    Uncle Kit, well done.

    There is a news I read about Chen Man Hin comments on PAS stragtegy, hope is not another episod of ‘battle’ within the coalition.

    I think you need to look into this. The media is always ready to tarnish the coalition or BR.

  35. #35 by taikohtai on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:10 pm

    G’day Uncle LKS,

    Remember a few years ago at UQ Brisbane when I said it was my dream to see DSAI as PM and LGE as deputy PM of Malaysia one day? And you replied: Why don’t you make it happen?

    Looks like my dream may well come true eh?
    Justice must and shall prevail eventually.
    Long live Barisan Rakyat!!!

  36. #36 by ian on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:13 pm

    YB LKS,

    I also must apologize for doubting you when you called for the boycott. I should have more faith in you and waited for this moment.

    Anyways, it is all water under the bridge and I hope we will get to hear more good news from DAP/PKR/PAS. Hopefully, the good policies of the “opposition” states will be streamlined and practiced in all.

    Best of luck.

  37. #37 by Lee Wang Yen on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:15 pm

    PAS rejects secular democracy (DAP’s ideology). Theocracy is the Only Option:

    Pemikir-pemikir politik Barat, sedar akan kemunduran kerana dijajah oleh keagamaan Kristian yang banyak tidak rasional terhadap mereka, menyebabkan negara mundur.

    Dari sinilah lahirnya fahaman sekular yang memisahkan penghidupan dengan agama, sekali gus memisahkan agama daripada politik (daripada kalangan Kristian).

    Meskipun itu boleh berlaku dalam masyarakat Barat yang berpegang dengan fahaman Kristianiti, ia berbeza dengan agama Islam.
    Pemikiran politik Islam bertitik tolak daripada kefahaman Islam yang tidak memisahkan Islam daripada pemerintahan.

    Ia bersatu dalam satu perkataan di istilahkan sebagai Ad-Din, cara hidup yang lengkap, terungkap seperti firman Allah (mafhumnya): “…Pada hari ini, Aku (Allah) telah menyempurnakan bagi kamu agama kamu, dan Aku telah cukupkan nikmat-Ku terhadap kamu, dan aku reda Islam menjadi ad-Din kamu (cara hidup yang sempurna)…” (Surah al-Maaidah, ayat 3)

    Oleh kerana itu, kita umat Islam perlu terima hakikat, Islam adalah agama yang sempurna, termasuk cara berpolitik, memerintah cara Islam.

    Jika kita menolak pegangan ini dan memilih yang lain, ia bermakna menolak ketetapan Allah dan merendah-rendahkan agama, seolah-olahnya cara hidup ciptaan manusia, lebih sempurna dari ciptaan Allah.

    Merendah-rendahkan agama Allah boleh menyebabkan kerosakan akidah.

    Bersama Dr Haron Din: Pilihlah parti untuk kebahagiaan dunia, akhirat
    Dr Haron Din
    Thu | Feb 28, 08 | 10:08:47 am MYT

    [please – limit your posting to ONE thread, multiple posting of the exact same comments = spam]

  38. #38 by chanjoe on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:17 pm

    Am relieved the swearing-in went off smoothly and you took the opportunity to have an audience to personally apologise to the Regent for your nunwarranted outburst.
    Seems you finally did come to your senses and swallow your pride to apologise….SYABAS…this is a big change I see in you after folowwing your political route for the past 30+ years.
    Meanwhile, please relook into the candidate of deputy MB for Selangor…
    Teresa Kok is required for her dominant and dynamic actions in Parliament and she have to look after 2 kawasan. Please…she is not superwoman….
    Kindly remember she is still single and allow her some room and time to have her love life….don’t bog her down with such big burderns.
    I still think Teng CK is the best candidate to bear this burden and from what I know…he is a fearless leader who will really care and work for all in Selangor….if he had wanted power and position, I think he would had joined his brother in Gerakan and be well rewarded when bro Teng was a strong man in KohTKs Penang govt then.
    This is one tough guy who should be recognised for his loyalty and steadfast working passion for the rakyat…
    (I am not an apple polishing guy for Teng)

  39. #39 by penangboy on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:23 pm

    I have known Uncle Kit. Seeing him aged and hearing great stories from my late father bring some nostalgic feelings about the importance of standing firm and being able to recognize one’s fault and mistakes.

    I guess the Malaysian politics have come of age. I believe the Regent of Perak has shown great examples of what it means to be accountable and not bow down to pressure from all parties. I am proud that we have today a best alternative govt – definitely not BN but an alternative party – DAP/PAS/Keadilan.

  40. #40 by ian on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:25 pm

    Dear Lee Wang Yen,

    Have a rest will you?

    Whilst I share your sentiments about having an Islamic state, you should at least give PAS a chance to show whether they are capable of running the state without oppressing and robbing the non-Muslims.

    This PAS has “evil” intentions is getting very tiresome indeed. It has been used daily by UMNO, Gerakan and MCA to force Malaysians to vote for the corrupt BN. Aren’t u falling into their trap and preaching about the same propoganda used by them?

    Even if PAS has desires to form an Islamic state, it CANNOT for like Raja Petra correctly says, they need to win 2/3 of the seats in parliment. There is NO WAY they are going to do so without PKR and DAP gaining majority popular votes.

    If PAS does anything funny, we have a chance to vote them out in the next election, so for now please drop whatever you are trying to do. Just have faith in your fellow Malaysians to do the right thing.


  41. #41 by petestop on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:39 pm

    Lee Wang Yen….

    Look at it this way…. nothing going to stop DAP to protect Malaysia as a secular state in recognition to the founding fathers wishes and the fact that this is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious country. As long as we still fly the two rockets in every election, that is.

    In the end they will balance out each other and realise that the only fair state is a secular state that does not impose one’s religion onto another’s.

    DAP has been steadfast in defending this fact, even against the like of “Islam Hadhari” by the current Barang Naik government.
    I was surprise to see on an oversea magazine a full page advertisement on Malaysia at its 50th Merdeka, and stated Malaysia as an Islamic state. And MCA, MIC, Gerakan just whimper their support to this.

    With BN like this, I would rather vote for PAS, at least these guys I can expect them to be clean, humble and non-racist.

    That said, for the Perak government, it is a chance for PAS to demonstrate their modern, progressive and moderate side.

    I think we Perakians are more than happy to give them this chance, after 50 years of having muck and crap shove at us by Barang Naik government.

  42. #42 by Jong on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:41 pm

    Congratulations to the DAP-PKR-PAS State government of Perak!

    At last, Malaysians feel a new sense of hopefulness; let’s celebrate to a new way of thinking, stay united and focused, and work towards a clean, democratic and competent Malaysia!

  43. #43 by novice101 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 8:53 pm

    Lee Wang Yen, let us just try working with PAS and see how things work out. Do not throw out this hard-fought victory. without giving this a chance to work.

    If PAS were to show that it is adamant of wanting to stick to its ideology, then the rakyat can be the judge and give its judgement. This is the best opportunity for us to build an united and harmonious nation, let nurture it and give it space to expand.

  44. #44 by Democrats on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:02 pm

    Hey Guys and Girls,

    Stop reading about Lee Wang Yen and don’t bother to reply. Sounds like a little boy/girl trying to aggitate people and pick an arguement, or a parasite that is hungry for food. What do sound, smart and mature Opposition supporters in this blog do about Lee YW?

    We do nothing. Ignore,….and the pest will leave. When the food is missing at the host, the parasite will leave….. It’ll end up talking to himslef/(is it a her?)….

  45. #45 by dawsheng on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:03 pm

    Another excellent article from Farish A. Noor

    The debate over who should be made chief minister of Perak, which has been going on for a week now, points to the same sort of intellectual and psycho-social impasse that has kept Malaysia paralysed for so long.

    By Farish A. Noor

    WHEN the opportunity presented itself for Malaysia to choose a Malaysian woman of South Asian origin to be made the country’s first astronaut, those responsible for the final decision stepped back before the seemingly-insurmountable wall of taboos and inherited petty wisdom. No, they opined, we should choose a Malaysian Male Muslim Malay instead, as this would reflect the demographic realities of the country. But by doing so, they not only reflected the demographic realities of the day, but also confirmed the hegemony of that reality and thus rendered it absolute and unquestionable.

    Now think of the possible alternatives had the Malaysian-Indian woman be chosen instead: For a start it would point to the demographic realities many of us would have wanted to see; and it would have been such a powerful symbolic message sent to Malaysia and the world. Had the other candidate been chosen, we could have proudly proclaimed that this was a country where racial and ethnic divisions had been transcended, and where gender equality was within reach. It would also have been such an enormous boost to the pride and sense of self-worth of so many other marginalised minority groupings in the country, to see themselves mirrored in the national narrative and to be made to feel that they truly belonged to a Malaysia that was indeed a country for all races. But no: Sadly, once again, the powers that be did the familiar cop-out and conceded to their own misguided belief in the old taboos.

    The debate over who should be made chief minister of Perak, which has been going on for a week now, points to the same sort of intellectual and psycho-social impasse that has kept Malaysia paralysed for so long. Despite winning the biggest number of state assembly seats in the state, the DAP was not allowed to nominate one of its own to the post. The grounds for this realpolitik consideration happens to be a legal provision in the Perak constitution that apparently precludes the possibility of a non-Malay and non-Muslim from assuming the post of chief minister, even if her/his party won all the seats in the state assembly.

    That such a provision emerged in a specific historical context that was determined even before the struggle for independence got off the ground is known to historians and laymen alike. But the question is this: Are we forever to remain beholden to history and trapped by the circumstances of the past? Or are we finally going to admit to ourselves that this nation-state of ours – Malaysia – is an invented construct and as such is also open to deconstruction, revision, adaptation and subsequently evolution? Are we now ready to evolve a new Malaysian politics that will finally reflect the plural and multicultural reality of Malaysian society today?

    The debate over who should be the Perak chief minister appeared archaic and totally out of touch with the realities of our time. Coming immediately after an election that demonstrated the possible emergence of a pan-Malaysian cross-racial electorate, the fact that the post of chief minister for Perak was determined not by merit, experience or acumen, but rather by the racial background of the potential candidate, was surreal to say the least.

    But as the dust settles and as the country slowly regains its momentum in the wake of the results of the 12th general election, let us take this opportunity to stir up some other sleeping sacred cows and rattle some other popular taboos.

    To begin with, let us ask the singular question that nobody seems to have raised thus far: If, as our politicians would lead us to believe, this is indeed a country for all Malaysians, then should it not be the case that Malaysian citizenship and the commitment to the ideal of a plural Malaysian Malaysia be the guiding principle and criteria for all appointments to high office? Should that premise be accepted, would it not be conceivable that one day this country may have as its prime minister or deputy prime minister a Malaysian of non-Malay, non-Muslim and non-Male background? In other words, can we even begin to imagine the day when we may have a prime minister who happens to be of Indian-Hindu background and a woman to boot? And if such a situation is deemed unthinkable by some at the moment, we need to ask: Why? What is holding us back from entertaining such contingencies and variables? Surely what matters most in the selection of any leader or administrator is the competence and sincerity of the individual concerned; and it’s not as if it is the colour of the person’s skin that is doing the governing! (We hope not at least.)

    The following imponderable questions can be addressed to all the parties in the country today as well.

    Umno considers itself the party that defends the interests of the Malays and bumiputeras, though as we all know, both of these ethnic-racial categories are artificial and were invented as part of the colonial census. Be that as it may, Umno still presents itself as the party of the Malays and bumiputeras, and so let us ask this question aloud: Can the Umno leadership and membership consider the possibility that one day the president of Umno may be of Kadazan, Bajau, Iban, Penan or Peranakan background? Could a Catholic Kadazan ever dream of rising to such a post, and if not, what does this say about the institutional and structural limitations of Umno itself that does not and will not open up such opportunity structures?

    PAS on the other hand claims to have transcended the culture and praxis of race politics, and the elevation of its Chinese-Muslim leader (Datuk) Anuar Tan Abdullah in Kota Bharu is a case in point. Yet PAS still has a woefully small number of non-Malay Muslims in its ranks and it remains to be seen if the party can and will make that great leap to non-racialised politics by courting the support of non-Malay Muslims across the country. Now the leaders and members of PAS may wish to consider this imponderable question as well: Can and will a non-Malay Muslim ever become the president of PAS, chief minister of Kelantan or even assume the highest post of Murshid’ul Am (Spiritual Leader) of the party and its followers?

    Both the DAP and Gerakan on the other hand are ideologically-defined parties that have foregrounded their ideologies in the course of their struggles. But with the demise of Ahmad Noor, it has become an imperative for the DAP in particular to expand the racial spectrum of its leadership and membership. Already efforts are being made to undermine the hard work that the DAP has put into winning back Penang and those crucial state assembly seats in Perak and Selangor. Barbed comments about the DAP being a Chinese-dominated party may upset the sensibilities of DAP stalwarts who have laboured for so long to fulfil their leftist ambitions, but the fact remains that this perception of the DAP as a Chinese party is real for many and resonates with others too. In the same way that PAS places Islam at the forefront of its struggle, so should the DAP keep its Democratic-Socialist course, but surely the time has come when we can and should imagine the possibility of the DAP being led by a leader who may be of Malay or Indian background?

    In the wake of the election, many of us have celebrated what may well be the first signs of a nascent Malaysian nation where citizenship counts the most in defining ones identity. A rupture has been opened up at last in the collective mindset that determines the conduct of our politics, and perhaps for the first time since 1957, we are in a position to collectively redefine the terms of Malaysian politics.

    We need a new Malaysian politics that would breathe new life and faith in the political system, and where all of us – mainly on the basis of our universal citizenship – can claim to be stakeholders in the nation-building process. But for this to be the case we have to be brave enough to think out of the box and to imagine what was once deemed unimaginable. Our sacrosanct taboos and sacred rites have held us back too long, and kept us in a state of limbo where political superstitions ruled the day. For so long, we assumed that Malaysians would not vote for change; that the Malays would never support the DAP; that non-Muslims would never vote for PAS. But these certainties have been shattered and we now see that we are a mature, adult nation after all.

    So perhaps all we need to do is push the envelope a little further, set our targets a little higher, wish and work a little harder; and our dreams for a truly democratic Malaysia that is the nation for one and all may eventually come true. We failed to send a Malaysian-Indian woman to space, but that doesn’t mean we can’t send her to the Prime Minister’s Office in Putrajaya!

    Dr. Farish A. Noor is a senior fellow at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, Nanyang Technological University of Singapore; and one of the founders of the research site.

  46. #46 by limkamput on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:12 pm

    Lee WY, I think you have spoken your piece and I was supportive of your right even though many here have asked you to shut up earlier. But, as many here have said, it is the choice the rakyat have made and we shall all wait and see how the Perak government behaves henceforth. It is time to look at actions and deeds rather than manifestoes and declarations.

    I probably can agree with you that as supporters of DAP, we must be honest with ourselves and say our piece when necessary, otherwise there will be no difference us and BN. However, you are saying this again and again and if go beyond tonight on the same subject, I think many here is going to suspect your agenda and intention despite your repeated claims of being a DAP supporter.

  47. #47 by a-malaysian on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:15 pm

    YB Kit,

    When you post about the swearing-in ceremony, I already knew that you will seek a “Royal audience with Perak Regent Dr. Nazrin Shah” at a given opportunity. And you make it.

    One word “INTEGRITY.

    I know you will never fail your duty as a true Malaysian and your fight for all Malaysians throughout the years.

    Here is my take to all the Rakyats who claim to be the bosses now.

    Learn to be patient and stop the arrogant of being a boss.

    Funny how we human can change so fast and react to circumstances without thinking twice or even trice.

    A couple who had being married for many many years are trying very hard to conceive. They have being seeing all the doctors, medium and praying hard for a child but failed. Then with advance science and technology, the test tube baby method gives them hope.

    They quickly arranged with the doctor to have a child through the test tube baby method. What a joy when the answer from the doctor is positive. After going through the process and patiently waiting for the nine months, the baby was born.

    Every one was so happy for the couple with congratulations and best wishes. But it did not last long. A few days later, it was learn that the child has a weak heart and slight jaundice. The baby was crying very often and coughing.

    The parents start cursing and swearing that they had gone through all the difficulties and spend a lot of money to bring him into this world and this is what he is giving back to them. They even ask him to stop immeadiately all the crying and coughing and start to go out into the world.

    Would you as a parent to this new born child react this way?

    The oppositions are trying for years to weaken the bn stronghold but was defeated each time. The opportunity came with a respected leader who can get all the three parties to work together. A new technology in the form of the internet produces blogs and online news portal to counter and provide all the news that the government control MSM would not print.

    This great opportunity to defeat the ruling bn has arrived and the results were devastating to bn. Previously they are the oppositions but now they are in control of five states and able to form the new governments.

    Everyone was hilarious, joy and some even cried. Everyone is claiming that they are the boss now and it is because of them that the oppositions can win big. They are acting like the parent giving birth to a new born child.

    After three days, they discover that there are some hiccups and some problems facing these newly elected MPs and Aduns. Without even given them a chance to work things out, the bosses including influential bloggers started condemning, cursing and swearing. Even one blogger was so agitated that he send an MP into his blog chamber. Write ups in blogs and comments were so unfair to the just newly born coalition after just three days.

    These type of behavior tell us what? We as bosses must not be so impatient and arrogant. Time frame must be given to enable your new employees to settle down and perform. Let it matured and grow for a period and after that if it fails then we, the bosses will know what to do next.

  48. #48 by alancheah on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:21 pm

    Good job, you did… Uncle Lim.

    Who in BN will ever say sorry, once they
    make a mistake? Nobody in my mind now…
    sad case….

  49. #49 by mw88 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:27 pm

    Well done LKS!!!

    One a sidenote… perhaps all BA MPs should record all their interviews done by MSM and release the recording online whenever they are misquoted by the MSM, serves as good insurance to prevent mischievious writing :-)

  50. #50 by Windchime on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:29 pm

    Dear YB Lim,

    Firstly, congratulations to all in the new coalition government!

    YB Lim, you are a true gentleman and statesman! Thank you for your generosity and humility.

    Now, let’s see those UMNO instigated “Loyalist” protesters hold another 30 minutes of demonstration in front of your service office, prasing you for ‘listening’ to them!!


  51. #51 by melurian on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:34 pm

    did you wear songkok ???

  52. #52 by pablopabla on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:34 pm

    Well done indeed! I admire you for your efforts to reconcile with the Perak royalty and it speaks volumes about your humility.

    Now, it’s time to prove to all that we do have an alternative government in Malaysia which is more than capable of running the country!

  53. #53 by mobileworld on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:34 pm

    Just one word SYABAS! Keep up the good work and plse do not disapoint us! All the best and hopefully something good comes up in Selangor as well for DAP! Syabas and Cheers!

  54. #54 by fuad on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:37 pm

    YB Lim,

    Glad that Perak Regent wanted to meet you, count yourself lucky.
    Next time stop sadiwara at the wrong time to the wrong people.It should never have happened in the first place.
    NOW is the time to govern intellegently, tell your Perak DAP to use their brain to make all races happy and show the world that DAP is not a party for chinese only but all races.
    And you bet more malays will vote DAP.
    Good luck!!

  55. #55 by toast on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:38 pm

    Kudos LKS!! I am so proud of you and I look forward to great things from you.

  56. #56 by stnaaron on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:38 pm

    Congratulation! YAB LKS and the gang

    You did something great today!!!! Well done…Well done….
    we are looking forwards to listen more of your party good
    news and view..


  57. #57 by undergrad2 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:41 pm

    After everything is said and done, there is no escape or even attempted escape thus far from the racist mindset that has bedevilled our efforts at unity.

    If we want to think of ourselves as Malaysians, why are we still referring to ourselves thus:

    “The greatest challenge of the Perak DPP coalition government is to be a government for all Perakians – Malays, Chinese, Indians, Orang Asli and others – capable of better looking after the interests and welfare of the people of Perak …” Kit

    ..and why are we using the term “Yang Behormat” (which is a term more suited to those who subcsribe to the so-called BN “bodek” culture) instead of the more plain but more dignified term “Wakil Rakyat”.

    Henceforth I shall address all duly elected representatives of the people by their rightful title “Wakil Rakyat” or people’s representative. It is term which is better suited because it is a reminder that they are there in a representative capacity, elected by the people to represent them.

    Either that or we have to find a better way of addressing our Members of Parliament outside of Parliament. “The Right Honorable Member from Bruas” or “Yang Behormat” when used should be heard only in the halls of Parliament or Dewan Rakyat or Dewan Negri as the case may be.

  58. #58 by Raja Mongrel on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:44 pm

    I concur with many that donning of Songkok is kind of surrendering to racist oppression or bowing to unmitigated tyranny,

    Let me put it this way, the Sultan should know (at least by now) the sensitiveness of his subjects (of various ethnicity). And I believe the question of disrespect simply does not arise as long as the rakyat dress properly. I don’t see how the Sultan is suddenly no longer a Sultan just because he allows the Rakyat to walk into the palace in Armani suits? I certainly fail to see how there will be no ‘unity’ unless everyone dons a Songkok?

    So, why can’t the Sultan just relax the so call ‘Palace Protocol’ which doesn’t even exist (for Songkok) in the first place?

    Actually, I think the Chinese have been very nice and sensitive towards the Malays for not mentioning another reason why they refuse to don the Songkok (which I am convinced is a Dutch ciplak, so do many Indonesians even though many Indians insist it’s originated from Bharat) …

    I’d like to ask the Malays to imagine they are living a place where the majority of the inhabitants are some kind of native whom they consider as rather backward, relatively barbaric, dress weirdly and worship an ‘alien’ God. Not only the Malays are constantly being threatened and discriminated, they also forced to learn the natives’ language which is actually a useless dialect that is totally hopeless academically, commercially or whatever.

    Now, let’s say the Malays are asked to attend a ceremony at the Native Palace whereby it’s say the ‘Palace Protocol’ is you should wear Bull Suit ie. Bare-chest bullhide skirt c/w a bull’s butt hat (decorated with oxtail, oxdick, oxballs and some colorful cock feathers) on your head but it’s NOT mandatory, would you rather not to wear a suit or something else that is equally ‘formal’ instead of the Bull Suit?

    What I am trying to say is people generally will have no problem with things that are considered as advanced, civilized or even just being ‘hip’ (never mind its origin), in another word, the positive, but that’s not the case with things they consider as negative eg. outdated, backward, absurd etc.

    Unless you can convince me Armani suit is inferior as compared to Songkok … I urge the Sultans, please be considerate, just say “please dress formally” and leave it to the Rakyat to determine what constitutes “formal dress code”.

    After all, the so called ‘Malay’ thingy be it garment, language or what have you is really nothing more than symbolism of Malay Supremacy (courtesy of the world #1 Racist: UMNO), which is bad for everyone, including the Malay themselves … So my question for the Sultans is: Why are you dancing with wolves (and become a partner-in-crime, so to speak)? Isn’t UMNO your foe (remember the Johor Sultan/Mahathir saga)?

    I also suggest let’s not only discuss what can be accepted as ‘formal dress code’, we should also take this opportunity to talk about what constitutes an ideal medium of instruction, among others … I suggest we revert back to the most popular language on earth: ENGLISH. There are simply too many good reasons why should seriously consider reverting back to English, and I urge BR to fight for its realization.

  59. #59 by chanjoe on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:44 pm

    At least when we go to the street to protest…we go with our concience clear and for a good cause but the UMNO pariahs just cant take any defeat and just want to cause trouble..hoping to get a quick chance maybe to win back their power….

    DEAR MALAYSIANs….we all know that they are actually trying to get back their riches which have been stop right on the track with BN’s losses and thats why they resort to destroying all their previous records of their misdeeds.

    Fellow Malaysians of Malay race…please tell the stupid UMNO trouble makers to accept the reality of the election and follow what we the people wanted them to be…..that is to wake up and be a fair govt for all races.

    Just read that PKR having urgent impt meeting this evening and there will be a very impt announcement…anyone can shed any lights???? TQ

  60. #60 by Jong on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:46 pm

    I have a question for YB Lim Kit Siang. How should we refer to your coalition of DAP, PKR and PAS?

    I don’t think you guys have even thought of a name for yourselves! Too busy? :D

    Someone earlier on this blog used “DPP Govt”. I was confused for awhile, then I began to figure out that it meant DAP-PKR-PAS !
    I see names like these have used – United Rakyat, Barisan Rakyat and even Angkatan Rakyat.

    Comeon its time you give your coalition a name to ensure mainstream media/tv stays uniform and uses the same name. We are all confused.

    Over to you YB.

  61. #61 by teejay on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:48 pm

    Aiyah chan joe ! Yesterday you say you are not a friendly posting for Teng. Today after extolling Teng’s virtues (when we are discussing about another subject,ie Perak MB swearing in and Kit’s audience with the Regent of Perak), you have to put at the end that you are not an apple polisher for Teng ! Like I said yesterday ”

    “Some of them says he is the most qualified to have the post. My question is most qualified for what ? My guess is that any candidate will be severely examined in the following areas. Whether the person is a team player, whether he commands the respect of his peers and not only his supporters, his attendance at CEC & State DAP meetings, contribution of his DUN allowance to National DAP,etc. I am sure the leadership will access to all this information and make the proper choice. Last time got 2 opposition members in Selangor DUN – now got 13 members, times change and leaders should also change according to the sitiuation. Meanwhile let us watch carefully to see who puts party interest above selfish ambition. Meanwhile pls take down the banner lah, it is too embarassing. True leaders don’t have to advertise their qualities …..imagine Kit Siang putting up a banner saying he is most qualified to be Parliamentary Opposition leader. Unthinkable !”

    I would say that the leadership would be looking into the additional aspects of the candidates before they make a choice. This would include integrity, character,team player,etc. The leadership must check the candidates background carefully so that one’s private life is congruent with one’s public image. May the best candidate succeed ! It is not the end of the world if one does not get a particular post – all are still DUN and can serve the public.

    Btw, can anyone tell me if Teng has removed his”gigantic” banner which was put up to support him.

  62. #62 by EdChoo on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:50 pm

    Congrats, Uncle Lim. I salute you. It takes a real man to do what you have done.

    I agree with MW88 re. MSM. We have to take measures to counter the spin and propaganda. I don’t know what to make out of the one just reported by The Sun..”Cooperation, yes, no to hudud law”. Seems to have painted you in a very ungrateful manner. What’s the story here!! Already some negative feedback from Malaysia Today readers. But then again we are dealing with The Sun.

    We really have to take stock of what the MSM are feeding us. Just look at the Bernama story in Penang. Pure lies and half truths. LKS, DAP really needs to set up a full time PR department with full time PR personnels and professional spin doctors to counter the MSM. You really need to be quick in countering issues or risk things blowing up in your face.

    I think many jokers are going to pounce on this. You should think about spinning this latest issue back into your favour. Nip it in the bud. Already there are calls asking DAP to reciprocate some of the positive gestures from PAS these recent days. DAP should reciprocate or seen to be reciprocating these kind gestures from PAS. I believe they are changing and holding out an olive branch to DAP.

  63. #63 by hanuman on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:56 pm

    I hope you will not make anymore “boo boo”. You as a Hokkien would say “lau chiao” (old bird), should know better when and what to say.

    If you continue your stupid rhetoric, I would have to admit I stupid to have voted DAP. If the Opposition have 2/3 in Parliament and run this beloved country of mine, it will definitely collapse.

    You are behaving you are no different from BN, bloody arrogant. We the rakyat, Bangsa Malaysia voted you in and we will definitely vote you out if you continue your rhetoric.

    I would like to apologize if I took a poke at your ego. I have voted DAP all my life. If you delete this post than you are no different from the main media and BN.

  64. #64 by chanjoe on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 9:59 pm

    Thank you teejay for your kind words……
    My arguments are that we should allow experienced candidates to hold the fort when the time comes..

    This was what LKS had actually said to my friend when there was a time to propose new faces for candidature in past GEs….

    LKS had said he preferred tested and experience candidates for impt posts…thats why I am still calling on LKS to live by his words but maybe time had chaqnged and he has finally see through that new guys can do well too…hahaha…

    All for jest but waht I said is true…however lets not argue over this as we should berganding bahu to give all our support to LKS and his team to give a good account this time so that we can all stand tall to convince more people to vote for BR in the next GE and in so doing….we can nthen bowl over the pins of NS, Melaka, Pahang and even Johore…the signs are there…

    Lets keep our sights focussed and make sure BR goes in the right direction….

  65. #65 by ilikeit on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:02 pm

    I like you more and more Uncle kit
    Bravo you did the right thing after doing the wrong thing.

  66. #66 by undergrad2 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:05 pm

    We hear calls for the end of the NEP often these days. The term NEP is valued loaded with an emotional content so strong that the mere mention of it evokes an anti-Malay (or a pro-Malay sentiment depending on how it is used or who uses it).

    Instead of saying “We must end the NEP” shouldn’t we be better off saying “We should have a better affirmative action programs to help the poor” – not “the poor among the Chinese, Indian and Malays and others” but just the “poor among Malaysians”.

    Our political leaders especially those elected into office should help the people think of themselves as Malaysians and limit the use of ethnicity to a cultural setting not a political one.

    The term NEP is divisive. Its constant use serves only to remind us of the past instead of the future.

  67. #67 by budak on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:06 pm

    finally I can save a breath to fight for better future…!

    dear Perakian, DAP-PKR-PAS supporters,

    this is the golden time we’ve waited for 50 years… we should build a better home for Malaysian for the next 50 years or so… dont misuse this opportunity given by the Rakyat and dont dissappoint them… they’re always with you for now and forever…

    Thank you Malaysian, and thank you YB Kit… :-)

  68. #68 by observer on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:08 pm

    Congratulation Uncle Kit for patching up the problem caused by the earlier DAP CEC Stand on the Appointment of the MB.Such a big relief for the Ppl of Perak, Let the DPP coalition go down to work, REMEMBER The promises that the Coalition had pledge and don’t fail on them . Bravo again long live the DPP coalition, Work hard and we Malaysian will vote DPP into the Federal Govn. in the 13th GE.

  69. #69 by myop101 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:09 pm

    Dear Uncle Kit,

    Thank you for going the extra mile. Sorry for any outburst made earlier. But it seriously takes a bigger man to apologise for the errors made.

  70. #70 by FromIpohtoIpoh3 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:17 pm

    I was taken aback reading the updates from the Star paper stating of the proposal of a minority BN government for Perak! Why can’t we Malaysians accept the fact that we had lost? This is the analogy of all competitions….why must we still stir uncertainty when the fact that we had lost is no longer able to be concealed and when everyone is preparing to accept a new govt. We shall instead improve and rectify those weaknesses and compete again the next time (4-5 yrs). If we are good and the incumbent is not then nothing can stop another new govt….if not…make a longer stride..perhaps there will be one day….The govt of DPP took 50 yrs to be formed, are we good enough to take it back? If we can digest all these, I dont think the proposal would be in place

  71. #71 by deepthot on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:18 pm

    great job.i definitely can respect a man who is humble enough to admit his mistakes.good luck.and may malaysia and it’s people grow better with each passing day.

  72. #72 by undergrad2 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:22 pm

    Why DPP?? To many DPP stands for Deputy Public Prosecutor a term so closely identified with the prosecutorial minded UMNO/BN when running the government – which they still do in most of the states and at the federal level!

    DAPP would be a better term. At least it reminds me of Johnny Depp!

  73. #73 by pwcheng on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:26 pm

    We must understand that all those voted in from DAP, PAS or PKR are also human beings and can succumbed to temptations. Though they know that this can cause their downfall, but somehow find it irresistible.

    We as responsible citizens must keep track and check for any malpractices on this new government. Lets hope the head is steadfast on their manifesto, as the fish always rot from the head.

  74. #74 by undergrad2 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:30 pm

    DAPP is a much better reference to the tripartite coalition. But of course expect the other two to oppose because it involves the use of the letters DAP. Though accurately reflective of the 6-3-2 formula agreed upon, it serves to signify the domineering position of the DAP in the tripartite coalition!

  75. #75 by tokki20 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:30 pm

    Barisan Rakyat is simple and straightforward…….sound more like belonging to people.

  76. #76 by jetaime.f on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:30 pm

    DAPP would be a better term. At least it reminds me of Johnny Depp!

    mwaaaaahahhaaa…… :)

    PCP = The People’s Coaliation Party…
    or MPCP = THe Malaysian People’s Coaliation Party

  77. #77 by Better Future on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:33 pm

    Congratulation, now I think my son is still having a future in this country which I almost wanted to give up once upon a time. I just hope the new form state government of BR /DPP will show to whole Malaysia there can work together. I think MR LKT you should inform to other BR leaders not to give too much statement to the press as they ‘re all your enemy. Just trying to take your word as start spreading rumour. Just a good example was the sunday gathering when Utusan Malaysia claim having 1000 people while The Star said 50 people by looking at the picture taken by Utusan itself maybe 1 person in real stand for 10 person. Please keep up the good work.

  78. #78 by chanjoe on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:36 pm

    I think the best reference to the coalition should be Barisan Rakyat “BR” as the rakyat of all races voted for Opposition.

    The votes trenscend across all borders irrespective of whether its PAS, DAP or PKR.

    I asked my 2 children to vote for PAS in DUN and PKR in Parliament and PAS did win in DUn but unfortunately PKR lost in Pandan Parliament seat.

    If we still subscribe to racial and religion issues…then I don’t see the BR Selangor Govt being able to be formed at all as Bn would win more seats then.

    SO lets use “BR” for the new Govt of Kedah, Penang, Perak & Selangor and that too for the future coming Govt of Negeri Sembilan, Pahang, Johor and Melaka ( How nice and satisfying to dump the Ali Rusted).


  79. #79 by adoionline on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:40 pm

    Hundreds of comments follow each blogpost. Talk about audience feedback!
    Doubt you’ll ever find time to read every one, Kit Siang, but if you ever chance upon this – KNOW THAT YOU ARE GREATLY BELOVED AND ADMIRED BY MORE MALAYSIANS THAN YOU POSSIBLY EVER MEET IN A SINGLE LIFETIME. Hope that makes you feel warm all over. Nobody could ever accuse you of “wasting your life” :-)

    Thanks for battling on the last four decades even when the darkness seemed overwhelming. Thanks for going in and out of Kamunting on our behalf and for yelling your voice hoarse in a parliament of overdressed turds. Enjoy the view from the top. It was a looooooong, hard climb for sure….. breathe deep and slow…. heaven on earth is possible, nay, INEVITABLE….in our lifetime. That is MY solemn promise to you.

  80. #80 by on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:43 pm

    Uncle Kit,

    Winning combination is 18:7:6 (DAP: PKR: PAS)

    Why 6-3-2? It should be 7-2-2.

    Managing the situation and negotiation skill from state DAP leaders are poor and not convincing?

  81. #81 by St0rmFury on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:55 pm

    Haih… I remember how a lot of the members here bashed YB for what he did. Now I see a lot of salutes and apologies from the very same people who displayed such immaturity by lashing out at Kit when they don’t even know what’s really going on. These so called “DAP supporters” are so fickle.

    Do you people still regret voting for DAP, huh?

  82. #82 by kopio2 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:57 pm

    Uncle Lim,
    Perak is a very unique combination of state government compared to Penang, Kedah, Salangor and Kelantan. It is simply because it is lead by a minority party. The whole malaysian is watching what will happened when there is an argument between three of you. If you can shown a good cooperation in this state that mean you guys will have a very high possibility to let people know that this is a example of how are you going to manage the multinational country not like BN. It is good to see the Selangor and Penang government move a big step of how they want to do about NEP, hope to see some new thing from new Perak new team.

  83. #83 by Jong on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 10:59 pm

    Frankly, don’t we have enough of “Barisan” already?
    When they have “B”, this new coalition should use
    “A” ! – Angkatan Rakyat sounds nicer. Also it will not confuse the people. Well just my 2sen worth.

  84. #84 by LT on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:00 pm

    Well done Mr Lim. There is always lessons to learn. Congratulation.

  85. #85 by highhand on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:02 pm

    when will all the summons be cancel down south here too…..

    can’t wait for the next 5 years to come

    whopee !!!

  86. #86 by undergrad2 on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:10 pm

    Hello JOng!

    “Angkatan Rakyat sounds nicer. Also it will not confuse the people. Well just my 2sen worth.”

    What do you plan to angkat?? I’m already confused!

  87. #87 by Old Geezer on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:19 pm

    Am glad this episode is over.
    There is only so much goodwill that you have with other people.
    The best thing is to be careful what to say and do especially when it involves sensitive issues such as the royalty.
    Malays may be “chin chai” on other matters and may be happy with just sambal and rice for dinners. But they consider it a great insult to their race and culture if their royalty is not respected.
    DAP could not care less about this in the past.
    But in this new time and age, especially now it is part of the govt and will be interacting more often with the royalty in Selangor and Perak, it should be aware of this sensitivity.
    This is all the more important as DAP deals with the problem in Selangor.
    Chen Man Hin’s recent press interview also did not give a good impression.

    “Their proposal has left a big question mark over our future co-operation,” a visibly upset Dr Chen said while angrily pushing aside a newspaper article on the Pas proposal.” NST Online

    Apparently, Chen Man Hin did not read Husam Musa’s later statement (which already appeared at that time and Chen was reading old news) where he also criticised the press:

    “PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa has clarified that his statement on the party taking over the Government at the federal level was taken out of context. …
    Husam urged the mass media to be careful in its reporting to avoid antagonising anyone unnecessarily.” Star Online

    I think elder statesmen should know how to say “No comment” to press queries.
    Obviously the govt media would gleefully report any sign of discord within the coalition.
    Better still, let the official DAP press secretary (if there is one) or Secretary General make all the necessary comments, so that there would appear to be one voice and one consistent policy.

  88. #88 by tokmoh on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:22 pm

    YB Lim

    Congrats for the installation of Perak MB, and congrats that you’ve shown maturity in handling a problem when there’s a disagreement. Since you cannot change who the Sultan wants to pick as the MB, you (DAP Perak) can successfully negotiate with PAS on the exco part. As the saying goes, “failure means God has a better plan for you”, now everyone’s happy and the new Perak govt can get to work.

  89. #89 by Jong on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:22 pm

    Hahaha, I was just trying to give my opinion of those being used by some of the blogs and/or media/tv, can’t remember where. The name didn’t come from me lah!

  90. #90 by highhand on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:23 pm

    13 sound like a favourite number for some ha ha ha

    next GE is 13………………

  91. #91 by Valentine Tnay on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:28 pm

    A day after the GE results a friend SMSed me with the message Hip Hip Hooray..I replied..Hold your migration plans there’s light at the end of the tunnel..many Malaysians r holding on to high hopes to a change for the better..don’t let us down..fight for every Malaysian’s rights without fear or favor..not among far so good..albeit a few teething problems along the way..

  92. #92 by Humanrace on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:28 pm

    Congratulations LKS and your gesture to the Sultan is definitely a very good example for all of us to adopt in a similar situation.

    Whilst it is a necessity to work with PAS on a highly optimistic note, i think LWY has a point that we need to be informed, updated and some sort of cautions need to be exercised. LKS constant reminders to PAS not to propose hudud laws by frontdoor or backdoor is a welcome.

    The current set of politician in PAS at present are very sensible based on their views and actions.

    However one can guess what could happen (very possible) if some fanatical groups manage to take control of PAS in the future.
    There is a possibility for the fanatics to twist the ideology to serve their own interests and by then the majority may be held to psychological ransom via subliminal means. It will then be too late to turn the non rational faith and emotional tide.

    If we Malaysians can work together as progressive humans and modulate our negative animal instincts, we will be on our way to a better tomorrow..

  93. #93 by highhand on Monday, 17 March 2008 - 11:52 pm

    we want fireworks

    we want firework

    we want firework

  94. #94 by just a moment on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 12:16 am

    Well done Uncle Lim,
    And to all the DAP/PKR/PAS, thank you, thank you.
    Lets start moving now. All on board!!!
    YES! YES! YES!

  95. #95 by Bigfoot on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 12:32 am

    Dear YB Lim,

    I very happy to hear that things are working out.

    Now, I’ve been reading that some states require that the Chief Minister (CM) or Deputy Chief Minister (DCM) be a Malay & a Muslim. I haven’t problem with this, as long as the individual is a fair and an open-minded person. Having said this, how many CM’s who would otherwise fulfill conditions, be genuinely religious? I have my serious doubts if many are. This being the case, how can they actually be advisors to the Sultans? Besides, in this day and age, the Sultans must not only look after Malay/Muslim subjects, but also non-Malay/non-Muslim subjects as well.

    Given the above, I feel that it would be better if the Sultan of each state had an advisory board comprising of religious and cultural experts, who could advise him on the needs of the different communities in his state. This advisory board could be mandated to resolve issues amongst the various groups, so as to avoid further occurences of issues involving the demolishment of religious places of worship, etc. Their stress should in fact be on unity and harmony of the various groups. The advisory board could in fact be consulted jointly by the Sultan, the CM and the DCM (s).

    What do you think of the above? I hope to hear your feedback on my suggestion.

  96. #96 by lbl on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 12:36 am

    YB Lim,
    I am glad all went well with the swearing-in of the Perak MB.I think the Ngeh and Nga will have to be told what to do.If I am not mistaken Fong had some problems with them before the election.
    BN lost Perak because they thought no one could shake them. Hopefully the Ngeh and Nga will not have the same idea.

  97. #97 by ahpiow on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 1:19 am

    The “Opposition” has been in Opposition for too long – 50 years? Now the “Opposition” has turned Government in some states, and the current Opposition in these states is the BN. So for the “new” Govt in these states, will the previous opposition please think outside the box and carry on the job to GOVERN?

    The “oppositon” coalition Govt is a beginning era and DAP, PAS and PKR must work together for long-term gain and commitment to the rakyat. You fail, and you fall! Compromise and cooperate. Get professional advisors on how to manage Govt. You must succeed to ensure a true Malaysian society. Be honest, be publicly vocal and fight for the rakyat’s rights, and you will survive!

    I feel that the BN will not be able to re-coup in the next GE if the BA keep on their toes. The media are now giving more coverage to BA, albeit negatively at times. This is a PLUS! When in the past has the media given such exposure to Opposition?

    You need some time to adjust to your victories, but don’t take too long, and don’t make stupid personal announcements. Change your previous opposition mindset, you are now Government in some states!!

  98. #98 by GradUnion on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 1:37 am

    Dear YB Lim KS,

    We, Perakians are very proud of your noble and humble leadership in leading DAP to achieve your Dream today. Your immediate apologise to our beloved Regent of Perak showed that you are not arrogant like UMNO leaders but a learnt gentleman with full respect from all Malaysians. We salute you for being a great stateman.

    Congratulations ! Perakians are very happy to have a Tiga Sekawan parties – DAP/PKR/PAS to govern the silver state in Perak. The Northern people said the Tiga Sekawan parties have strike GOLD jackpot in the 12th GE to grab power from arrogant BN who ruled for 50 years. It is indeed sad that BN got the “CROWN” of federal government but the Tiga Sekawan parties managed to got the “Jewels & Gold” of four golden silver states in Kedah, Penang, Perak and Selangor including 10 seats in FT KL . Now BN is a lame duck without the rich states to boost their egos and arrogant minds. Bravo! We hope that Tiga Sekawan in Barisan Rakyat is able to govern all 4 northern states with good governance, fair to all races, zero corruptions, transparency and fullfill your promises to the Rakyat.

    Finally, Perakians hope that Tiga Sekawan is able to continue to serve the people of all states in the next GE and to take the CROWN away from BN. Please work hard to serve the people and dont easily loose the people trust. Otherwise, Tiga Sekawan parties will be removed by the people to let BN rule again. We hope that Barisan Rakyat will replace BN in next 13th GE to govern Malaysia for 50 years and beyond.

    Thank you. GOD blessing always.

    Best regards,
    Perakians & All Malaysians.

  99. #99 by doggone on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 2:22 am

    Dear Kit Siang.

    You are what great men throughout history is all about. Hats off to you.

    May you lead and guide our younger office bearers to emulate your persistences and righteousness and bring glory to our land called Malaysia.

    With God’s blessing, you just might see your unwavering struggle come to pass in the very near future. I for one have great confidence in you. Apologies for some of my unrefined comments at the heat of the moment.

    Thank you Sir.

  100. #100 by KS R on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 3:38 am

    Hi Uncle

    Well done. Keep up the Good Work. Ensure to make a strong Government Penang /Kedah /Perak / Selangor / Kelantan.

    Homework to be done by three of you. DAP/PKR/PAS.

    Is there any DMB 1 and 2 PERAK / Selangor and I, request every state require Malay MB (this should be abolish once we take over Parliament) that means DMB must be Indian and Chinese

    Please inform Dato Anuar / Pas leader too

    There is demonstration by UMNO uncivilized Members in Penang. Please inform CM Melaka RUSTUM to revoke the Citizenship and send them to Java or Sumatra

  101. #101 by drctan on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 4:43 am

    Bravo Uncle Lim! I know it must have been very difficult for you! My admiration continues on your persist ency, determination and integrity. I hope to be able to contribute to your efforts in the near future, even if from afar. Take care and good luck.

  102. #102 by kkchong on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 5:11 am

    Uncle Lim
    Many Thanks for your good gestures , you are our rakyat champion and great gentlement. We solute you for your good effort for the past 40 years to fight for better future for all Malaysians.

    Thank you.

  103. #103 by CommonFolk on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 6:32 am

    You are a man of your words. You are also a man of your action.

    Our history book will always have you in it. Thank you Uncle Lim.

    Please take care of your health and let someone else take up the Opposition Leader post in Parliament. We want to see you in politics for another 15 years, minimum.

  104. #104 by Jimm on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:08 am

    Thank you very much, YB LKS.

  105. #105 by gilbert on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:26 am

    You have done a CORRECT move!

  106. #106 by smeagroo on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:46 am

    Bravo! At least you have done the correct thing unlike Shahidan who is still sulking.

  107. #107 by rakyatmalaysia07 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 9:51 am


    You are a BIG man ! To apologise in letter and personally go and see Raja Nazrin is superb!
    Let us pray for this coalition to work.
    Surely the mere fact that DAP-PKR-PAS could come to an agreement in Perak augurs well for the Barisan Rakyat.
    Indeed MERDEKA!
    btw stop rumour mongering on PAS …Muslims in Malaysia also do not want Taliban style government and neither does PAS

  108. #108 by NewDAP on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 10:29 am

    DAP never accept PAS ideologies of Islamic state and never agree to support PAS or to accept PAS candidate as MB.

    The Pariah Ngeh desperately wanted to be Deputy MB and agreed everything with PAS even though it is against DAP ideologies or policies.

    It was the selfishness of the Pariah Ngeh’s brothers who back stabbed Uncle Lim and DAP putting DAP in a position that leave them no choice but to accept the PAS candidate to be MB. If not, DAP will be accused of disrespecting the Sultan.

    DAP is did the right and sensible thing by compromising and forcing itself to work with PAS and putting Peoples’ Interest, Peace and Stability above DAP

    The real culprit is the bad hearted ‘hock chew’ fellow who are power crazy.
    It is not the first time they did such things, remember the case of Batu Gajah’s MP where our Uncle Lim became the scapegoat of the Pariah ‘hock chew’ brothers.

  109. #109 by righttoequality on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:08 am

    First of all, congratulations to DAP and BR for the success in the 12th GE. The people has certainly given an overwhelming mandate especially to DAP in Penang , Perak and Selangor. This is definitely an opportunity for DAP to now carry forth what it has been championing for all these while.
    As the party begins to lay the groundwork, one begins to wonder why there are so many recent issues being brought up by the party leader like an opposition despite DAP being state government in Penang, Perak and Selangor? Maybe MSM also has a big hand in the misinterpretation, but undoubtedly there’s a lot of hardwork for DAP in the road that lies ahead.
    Given this mandate, it is hoped that DAP start working towards fulfilling its promise and also winning the support of bumis not only in Penang but nationwide. Do remember that everyone will be watching intently what DAP delivers for the next 4 years.
    So far, DAP’s support comes mainly from non-bumis. If there are bumi votes, it’s only due to the tie-up with PKR and PAS as BR.
    Some questions remain…
    Will DAP garner strong support in non-bumi areas in the next GE?
    Will there be bumi reps in DAP party lineup?
    Is DAP contented on representing non-bumi areas only?
    Non-bumis will always remain the minority in Malaysia , hence basing on these votes alone is definitely insufficient if DAP has plans to grow into a party to be reckoned with. Will the party components of BR restrictedly champion each racial component just the same as BN? While we see a more multiracial lineup within PKR, there is much less in DAP and PAS. Please think of long term. While many things could not be changed immediately and would best not to be changed overnight, DAP has this one chance to work towards it. So be patient.
    (1) First, uproot corruption and inequality in each constituency and state.
    (2) Next, consider building DAP into a multiracial party.
    (3) Win the respect of all races so that DAP can shed it’s image of being a Chinese party.
    (4) Together with BR, defeat BN by gaining 2/3 majority in the next GE.
    Then DAP shall have a stronger mandate to change things, even state legislation is not impossible.

    Yours truly,
    For an equal Malaysia, My 2cents’ worth of opinion.

  110. #110 by Cinapek on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:17 am

    Dear YB,

    I salute you. Winston Churchill once said:

    “The price of Greatness is Responsibility”. You took responsibility for your actions and that is a sign of greatness.

    I hop HRH understands the reason and motive behind your statements and have accepted your apology.

  111. #111 by otyew on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 11:43 am

    dear YB,

    it takes a great courage to admit own fault and apologize, especially for a man. u will always have my respect. carry on the great job, ok?

  112. #112 by ahoo on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 1:01 pm

    Dear YB Kit,

    Thank you for the legacy that you have had created ! I’d admired your courage and have since learned of your wisdom. Leaders must manage change. Things will constantly change whether we like it or not. Unless we manage the change, we may not like the changes.

    Many peoples had spoken against your stand on the selection of pas rep’s as MB of Perak then and the fear of BN taking control again if the DPP coalition were to fail, triggers their outburst. Thus, the unending cries for you to toe the line. Your humility is strength in facing such a hostile crowds. I respect you for your stand against islamisation which is against the constitution and hope that the new MB of perak will look beyond the call of duty.

    You are indeed a great politician and Malaysians are really blessed to have someone like you who truly stand his ground for democracy sake. I believe that greater things are in store for this country in the years ahead as Malaysians begin to tread the path of reconciliation amongst the races. Only in unity can we bring success to this nation and the principle of sharing is to be cultivated with sincerity without any poor being left behind.

    A great nation is one that even the poor can be proud of as afterall we all have the same human gene and the image of our maker without being colour sensitive. Do continue to share your political wisdom with the newbies and teach them not to seek only after new knowledge as wisdom and experience of the past will be the greatest teacher of us all.

  113. #113 by ahoo on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 1:18 pm

    YB Lim,
    I am glad all went well with the swearing-in of the Perak MB.I think the Ngeh and Nga will have to be told what to do.If I am not mistaken Fong had some problems with them before the election.
    BN lost Perak because they thought no one could shake them. Hopefully the Ngeh and Nga will not have the same idea. lbl says :

    Dear lbl,

    Please do not trust what you read in the MSM. It can only report what the master wants and are all out to discredit DAP and others.
    YB Kit, is such an experienced politician that I believe he knows what is good for Perak DAP per se. The challenge to walk the talk has just begun and all eyes will be on the states run by coalition parties and they cannot fail. Showcase it to the world that their power sharing concept is better than the BN’s, divide and rule.

    Thus, leave the political issues to the politicians and let’s us learn to share our knowledge by blogging responsibly. Tq

  114. #114 by happyguy on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 2:25 pm

    All the best to Barisan Rakyat (BR).

    So sorry for all the Being Naive (BN).

  115. #115 by mchoice2008 on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 3:25 pm

    PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa has clarified that his statement on
    the party taking over the Government at the federal level was taken out
    of context.

    “I mentioned that we are hopeful of taking 30 more parliamentary seats to
    win power and not about forming an Islamic Government,” he said

    Lee Wang Yen, you happily and selectively took NST and STAR reports to support your arguments.

    Our best guess is that you are still a PHD student, possibly doing some research in religion or so.

    It looks like you are more concerned with your own arguments and research topics than really thinking of some PRACTICAL and IMPLEMENTABLE ways to move Malaysia to a BETTER Malaysia.

    Be more humble, and be more practical. The world is definitely much more diverse than what you could see from your research topics.

  116. #116 by rw on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 3:30 pm

    I am a staunch supporter of DAP for its firm stand in national issues and sacrifices made by the leaders thus far. As much as I am pleased with the formation of the coalition government in Perak, the chapter in Selangor does not leave much to be desired when I read the news this morning. DAP central committee has nominated Ms.Teresa Kok over Mr.Teng Chang Kim as the deputy CM. I has been plagued by the appointment of Selangor’s deputy CM for the past one week. I do not see the rationale of appointing Ms.Teresa Kok as the deputy when she at the same time has to take care of both Parlimentary and state seats whereas Mr.Teng Chang Kim clearly stands out among the DAP state assemblymen, he has been four terms state assemblyman with proven track record. He played such a vital role in the state assembly when he spoke out againt malpractices, unjustice, corruption and cronicism for the residents of Klang . He has gained so much respect and support throughout his tenure as an assemblyman for his integrity and capability. If the selection of the deputy CM by DAP central committee is not based on meritocracy and the capacity of the respective candidate but merely due to favouritism, the damage done on the party is unbearable and it hurts many supporters of DAP like me. Does DAP still care about the voice of a rakyat ( I believe there are many more out there) who have pledged support for Mr. Teng?

  117. #117 by drselva on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 3:41 pm

    Congrates! Congrats! Congrats! to all those who made this day come true! Now that BR has won this SILVER state (Perak), please proof to the others that you can revert back this state to among the No:1s in Malaysia, like in the past. We are far behind in development. We need our AIRPORT to be renovated as requisted by AIRASIA, soon. We have the best and understanding SULTAN. With his guidiance and blessings you can bring this poor neglected PERAK alive again. May GOD bless all.

  118. #118 by St0rmFury on Tuesday, 18 March 2008 - 4:18 pm

    Actually mchoice2008, Lee Wang Yen is a Cambridge graduate.

  119. #119 by neorakyat on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 1:57 am

    Well done Kit. I was absolutely digusted with your arrogant and poorly timed outburst. I have expected much more from u. Such silly rhetorics are the last thing we need after this watershed election. I hope this is not a precursor of things to come under Opposition rule.

    You have 4 years.

  120. #120 by on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 2:13 am

    I agreed with you, NewDAP.

    Something fishy with the 2 Ngeh/Nga.

    Firsly, with Fong (Batu Gajah MP) and then greed of power by not following DAP central mandate on selection of MB. Getting a deputy MB better than nothing, only he knows???

  121. #121 by Lee Wang Yen on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 3:53 pm

    Politics and religion are not my PhD research.

    I’m a philosopher of science.

  122. #122 by Lee Wang Yen on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 4:09 pm

    I did use some of the excerpts from various souces (BBC, Times, PAS website materials etc) to support some of my arguments, as shown in my posts. BUT I did not use that particular NST online report for any argument.

  123. #123 by Lee Wang Yen on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 4:22 pm

    Note that insofar as the NST report relating to Husam’s statement does not prove anything, the Star report of Husam’s clarification does not prove anything either.

    On this specific matter of Husam’s statement about PAS’ prospective win and the establishement of Islamic state in Malaysia, we have a claim and a counter-claim from two newspapers. Without further evidence, we do not know whether Husam has or has not made this claim.

    However, please note that this applies only to this specific claim made by Husam.

    The previous excerpts from diverse sources cited in my arguments to show that PAS is still committed to Islamic State and Islamisation are not adversely implicated by this specific case.

  124. #124 by philip vyti on Wednesday, 19 March 2008 - 5:45 pm

    Well done Uncle Lim. This is a beginning of a new era.We waited for it for so long. Don’t just throw it awayr

  125. #125 by Lee Wang Yen on Thursday, 20 March 2008 - 1:37 am


  126. #126 by standfair on Thursday, 20 March 2008 - 12:41 pm

    I opined that whether DAP leaders choose to wear the Songkok or not, we should understand and support. The meanings come with the frame we put on the songkok which must move with the zeitgeists of the time. If we elect you as leaders, we should let you decide confident that you know why you do it or need to change approach.

  127. #127 by malar on Friday, 21 March 2008 - 2:43 am

    Dear Uncle Lim

    Please comment on the article in NST dated March 4 “DAP yet to lift off, says astronau’. The National astronaut Dr. Sheikh Muszaphar took a swipe at the DAP which he said was still unsuccessful in launching their “rocket”. He said the opposition party’s “rocket” had been on its launch pad since 1969 but the Barisan Nasional only took a few years to send a mission to space. I think he has become so arrogant and what has he got to say now for the great win of DAP. He should be grateful that he was selected and despite the comments received like he was only a tourist passenger in the speace station. The person who invented rocket or the first person to launch the space station will not boast like him. God is great and he should eat his own words.

  128. #128 by Malaysian Hypocrite on Saturday, 22 March 2008 - 8:42 pm

    I would say bravo to Berita Harian for being the only newspaper to highlight Lim Kit Siang’s apology to the Sultan of Perak on March 18, 2008. I went around asking friends who read various papers and below is the summary of papers that covered the story (and not) based on their input.

    1. Berita Harian – Yes, Main, Pg 1

    No Apology
    2. Guang Ming Daily
    3. Sin Chew Daily
    4. NanYang Siang Pau
    5. China Press
    6. Kosmo
    7. Harian Metro
    8. Utusan Malaysia
    9. The Malay Mail
    10. New Straits Times
    11. The Sun
    12. The Star

  129. #129 by ZhouYu on Saturday, 22 March 2008 - 11:49 pm

    Seems like the same thing is about to happen in Terengganu according to

  130. #130 by Old Geezer on Monday, 24 March 2008 - 9:42 pm

    It appears from the official group photo of the new Selangor Exco, all the Chinese men from DAP wore songkok. Good for them.
    See, it is not that difficult but goes a long way to show respect for royal protocol.

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