Malaysia First Family and new grandson Jibreil Ali Jamaluddin


by Dr Chen Man Hin

The first family is truly representative of a multiracial Malaysia which has Malay, Chinese, Indian and Indigenous communities.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has ancestors hailing from the MidEast of Arabic origin

His daughter , Nori Abdullah was born of a Japanese mother. His son-in-law Khairy Jamaluddin comes from a Malay ancestry. The new grandson, Jibreil Ali Jamaluddin, can be said to have ancestors hailing from Malaysia, Arabia and Japan. The blood coursing through his veins is a mixture of Malay, Arabic and Han ancestors. He is typical of the young Malaysian, who because of mixed marriages among the different races, is/ multiracial /a rooted Malaysian

From the genetic point of view, the true Malaysian is a Bangsa Malaysia.

Other terms like bumiputras or ketuanan Melayu has no genetic basis, but are the creation of misleading politicians.

  1. #1 by kaybeegee on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 8:23 pm

    Dr Chen Man Hin, there are so many other examples of families that are truly malaysian. Japanese and Arabs are not Malaysians.
    When I got my Star newspaper with a picture of the family you mentioned ,at the front page I was cursing the editor for taking valuable space in the newspaper and my hard earned money. I cancelled Star and told my kids read the Sun, it is free.

  2. #2 by gofortruth on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 9:03 pm

    Politicians driven by self interests are always dangerous if not deadly!

  3. #3 by BlackEye on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 9:33 pm

    “Other terms like bumiputras or ketuanan Melayu has no genetic basis, but are the creation of misleading politicians.”

    Make that “politician” – whether misleading or not that depends on your political affiliations.

    So is “Malaysian”. That too is a creation of politicians to separate nationals of Malaysia from other nationals.

  4. #4 by BlackEye on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 9:44 pm

    If one’s mother is Chinese, father Malay, grandfather a Dayak, grandmother a Senoi, and half brother an Indian, one has more claim of being a Malaysian.

    However, he’d have one huge identity problem to begin with. He is likely to choose the Malay identity that comes with his father being Malay because it comes with privileges – a free overseas education, an affordable home, a good job, and most important a seat at the table.

  5. #5 by Justicewanted on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 10:02 pm

    In countries like UK, US or Australia, their citizens are known as British, American or Aussie respectively. There is no such thing as Chinese or Indian British.

    As long as you are citizens of those countries, you are a 100% citizen and there no such thing as race.

    In this BolehLand due to selfish political reasons, the citizens are sub divided into races…..

  6. #6 by teckwyn on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 10:08 pm

    All of our Prime Ministers have been Bangsa Malaysia. The Tunku was half Thai; Tun Razak was Bugis; Tun Hussein had Turkish blood; Tun Mahathir is half Keralite; and the present PM’s maternal grandfather, Ha Su-chiang, came from Sanya in Hainan.

    Encik Khairy should by no means consider his father’s Minang roots as an obstacle to his political ambitions. Indeed, history points to hybrid vigour in this regard.

  7. #7 by oknyua on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 10:10 pm

    “…He is likely to choose the Malay identity..” Blackeye.

    Not true, sir. “For what profits a man who gains the whole world but loses his won soul.”

  8. #8 by shamshul anuar on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 10:26 pm

    Dear Dr Chen.

    I refer to your remarks with regards to the “ketuanan Melayu”. I understand your sentiment. Any Malay will understand how DAP hates so much of the words. I mean of course Malays understand how DAP find it difficult to stomach anything that manifast the supremacy of Malays in politics.

    The truth is that dominance of Malays in politics is due to a very simple reason. Malays form the largest etnic group in Malaysia. I am sure you are aware that politics is a number game, at least in this planet.

    There is nothing embarassing about that. Malays just act like what other races in this world do. They are not prepared to surrender their dominance in politics. But at least, in humility Malays still willing to support non Malay politicians in Malay majority areas. So, give credit when it is due. Of course, it is suicidal for malays to expect vice versa.

    As for Justicewanted, discrimination also takes place, worse than Malaysia. In USA, a country that is busy preaching to others, I still can see widespread discrimination. I know as I used to live there.

    On paper, there looks like no discrimination. But a closer look shows how discrimination is alive and kicking. Several years ago, many black aides complained that they were often stopped by security while working in White House. However, no such treatment was given to white personnel.

  9. #9 by BoycottLocalPapers on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 10:33 pm

    Yes, all of our ex-PM were either of Thai, Bugis, Turkish, or of Indian origin. Our current PM is of Chinese origin. Do you wonder why non-Malays are still discriminated? I guess it has nothing to do with race. I think Malays generally are nice and kind people. Probably it has more to do with religion. Just look at the religious persecution in Arab countries or the hardship faced by non-Muslims in Pakistan. I think we are more fortunate than those non-Muslims living in the Middle East and Pakistan, because the Malays are generally tolerant people if compared to the Arabs and Pakistanis. Probably the reason why Malaysia has become intolerance towards non-Muslims is because our country had sent too many students to study at madrasahs in Pakistan for the past twenty years. These students brought back with them a culture that is foreign to the Malays.

    No wonder Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim is reported to have said that many Malays ‘ape’ the Arabs, especially in terms of dressing. Malays should put a stop to the ‘Arabisation’ of their own culture and challenge those who condemn deep-rooted practices and traditions of the Malay community as unIslamic. The Malays are not Arabs. Therefore, it is important that we do not ‘Arabise’ the Malay culture to the extent that everything that the Arabs do, we must do. The Malay culture arose from time immemorial, even before 1409 when Islam came to Malacca, and we cannot simply ignore that period from which we came.

  10. #10 by DarkHorse on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 10:48 pm

    In USA, a country that is busy preaching to others, I still can see widespread discrimination. I know as I used to live there.” Shamshul Anuar

    I think you meant “racism” rather than “racial discrimination”. The latter is illegal and the former is not. They don’t have jobs meant for “Whites Only” or “Blacks need not apply”.

  11. #11 by DarkHorse on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 10:51 pm

    “Several years ago, many black aides complained that they were often stopped by security while working in White House. However, no such treatment was given to white personnel.’ Shamshul Anuar

    This is an example not of racial discrimination but racial profiling.

  12. #12 by raven77 on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 10:54 pm

    Its difficult isnt it….to consider ourselves just human beings…in Malaysia..more then anywhere else…we should strive for common human rights and principles and leave ancestry, race and religion out of sight….and for that to happen ……Malaysians must focus on the fact that any Malaysian can become Prime Minister one day…..after 50 years Malaysia should have had its Barack Obama ages ago….but due to a sleeping, disunited and of course on occasion spineless opposition. Is the average Malaysian who complains of oppression and ketuanan willing to stand up for his rights as Martin Luther King did no matter how risky it is….I guess not…Malaysia’s Obama may never rise from this soil…..for the have nots in Malaysia….sacrifice is the name of the game if they want to be treated with dignity and equality……and sacrifice is in short supply currently….this status quo will continue like it or not for some time to come…

  13. #13 by James on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 10:59 pm

    In the first place there has never been (probably never will be) a bangsa Malaysia here if these BN criminals are in power. There will be only the various races & no bahasa Malaysia either becoz the powers that be deems it fit that the country be directionless and without any unifying factors. They want to DIVIDE & RULE and so intentionally implement this morass of garbage practices.

    How low can the BN criminals go in their devious intentions, we will never know.

  14. #14 by Colonel on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 11:24 pm

    Hi All,

    Look, the United States is not what it is today only after some fifty years! In the early years, only whites could become U.S. citizens and after staying in the U.S. for only two years. In 1882 they passed the Chinese Exclusion Act which prevented Chinese from becoming U.S. citizens. This was only repealed in 1942.

    The U.S. has gone through more than 200 years and there is still racism. You cannot stem out racism for as long as there are different races. But you can discourage incidents of racial discrimination through punitive laws.

    In Malaysia, racial discrimination is not illegal and racism is institutionalized.

    Perhaps cloning one day could provide the solution?

  15. #15 by Anba on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 11:27 pm

    Shamshul,
    Hi there. You mentioned ” Any Malay will understand how DAP hates so much of the words. I mean of course Malays understand how DAP find it difficult to stomach anything that manifast the supremacy of Malays in politics.”.

    It’s not that DAP and other races hates the bloody word ‘ketuanan Melayu’….it’s just that we are sick and tired of the Malay politicians who appears to be ‘bodoh sombong’ all the time. It’s because they went to the universities without much effort and also graduated without any effort because there are also Malay professors who were ‘half baked’ academics who pass the Malay students. As such, why are you so proud of the ketuanan Malayu? In fact you should be ashamed of that word which had resulted in the Malays lagging behind in many ways. The Malay bussinessman’s are not competent businessman because they are always ‘sleeping partners’ and the Malay graduates are often weak in communication and lack articulation skills because they expect to be spoon fed at their work place too.

    The USA example you gave, in the first place was reported in the press! But your bloody ketuanan Malayu politicians does not allow any truth to be published in the press. Pleaselah Shamshul, don’t compare USA and Malaysia. Their forefathers who wrote the constitutions were much brighter than our politicians as they were educated by merit and not by their race!

    Leave behind the ketuanan Melayu phrase and work harder and try to compete with other races using merit and not your race!

    May God bless Malaysia.

  16. #16 by anak sungeisiput on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 11:53 pm

    Quote :
    “The truth is that dominance of Malays in politics is due to a very simple reason. Malays form the largest etnic group in Malaysia. I am sure you are aware that politics is a number game, at least in this planet”

    Dominance by number is the weakest form of power relationship. One of these days the “dominance’ will collapse due to lack of inteligence, utter laziness and dumbwit, waiting for hand outs and for the coconut to fall and there will rise a smarter and a hardy stcok of minority to whom the dumbwitted majority will have to slave for, like the Malays did for the Whiteman during British colonial days.

    Think about it …it is called social evolution.

  17. #17 by U32 on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 12:00 am

    If there is such a thing as pure Melayu, do they know that they are being used to other’s full advantage ? And if we have the rojak Melayu, they should have a very open mind to different backgrounds, traditions and customs. So in terms of race, these rojak Melayu are hypocrits and betrayals to the other races which they partly belong to because they only want to see themselves as Melayu and refuse to acknowledge that they themselves are not really truely pure Melayu. Whether it is a pure Melayu or a rojak Melayu, they should learn how to be humble. Number one, that is required of Islam. Number 2, they can learn to accept non Melayu or non Bumiputras. What did TDM say ? A leader has to be humble ? Something like that ? These days in Malaysia, it is difficult to separate Melayu and Islam. Somehow it is Melayu Muslim or Muslim Melayu or if you say you are an Islam believer, you can also tell others that you are a Melayu. Why can’t you just say that you are a Chinese Muslim ? You are a Chinese but you believe in the religion call Islam. Like in China. Do the Chinese Muslims in the northern region of China call themselves Melayu ? They might not even know that there is a race call Melayu. Do the Melayus ever question this themselves ?

  18. #18 by alaneth on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 12:10 am

    Unfortunately nowadays, many examples are seen where the Malays/non-Malays terms is slowly diminishing – more racial intergration…

    …but the new term now is Muslim/non-Muslim, which is segregating the religions.

    Abdullah on bridging the West with Muslims…..
    tell that to a European or American & give them the list of Muslim don’ts…

    …put a White in Harlem with a placard ‘Make Peace’
    – go fly kite better.

  19. #19 by Count Dracula on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 1:03 am

    “Their forefathers who wrote the constitutions were much brighter than our politicians as they were educated by merit and not by their race!” Anba

    Yes, one of the so-called Forefathers Jefferson had a black slave as his concubine and had children by her he refused to recognize.

  20. #20 by Count Dracula on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 1:12 am

    “It’s not that DAP and other races hates the bloody word ‘ketuanan Melayu’….it’s just that we are sick and tired of the Malay politicians…” Anba

    The truth is the term “ketuanan Melayu” whatever that means, is an invention by UMNOristas to provide the common folks with an issue they could identify themselves with. The educated and well informed and less gullible among the Malays cannot easily be taken by in by such rhetoric. The term is supposed to make the insecure among the Malays who feel they are losing control of the country feel secure.

  21. #21 by Count Dracula on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 1:14 am

    “Ketuanan Melayu” is a smokescreen for Islamo fascism that is fast taking roots in this country.

  22. #22 by awangsayang on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 2:01 am

    My fellow Anba,

    Please be a little finesse and tackful, not all Malays like what you think. I’m all out want CHANGE in our country . Don’t allow UMNO to use your comment to alarm the Malays. Shamsul maybe doing his homework to prepare for the coming election, we dont know.. . I hope Shamsul dont make this Anba comment an issue. I’m a Malay too but I can take punches from Anba but I know that not many Malays can take it.
    Lets look at other issues and tell the Malaysian people that we need change.

  23. #23 by Justicewanted on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 5:03 am

    “discrimination also takes place, worse than Malaysia. In USA, a country that is busy preaching to others, I still can see widespread discrimination. I know as I used to live there.” Shamshul Anuar

    ————————

    Discrimination happens everywhere in this world. But in Malaysia it is written in black and white which is classified ubder races.

  24. #24 by pulau_sibu on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 7:09 am

    Please don’t forget about Najib, and then Taib Mahmud and George Chan of Sarawak……only rich and high-class people can do the international integration. We the poor and low-class people just mixing the same ice cream over and over.

  25. #25 by Malaysian on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 7:12 am

    Fully agreed with Justicewanted.
    “Discrimination happens everywhere in this world. But in Malaysia it is written in black and white.”

    Using logic of “Discrimination happens everywhere” therefore we have such a policy in Malaysia is not a good justificaiton.

    In Malaysia we can have openly legal racial discrimination. In U.S. such an action can result in being sued. That is the main difference.

  26. #26 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 7:21 am

    Yes “politics is a number game” and hence as shamshul anuar said’ “dominance of Malays in politics is due to…Malays forming the largest ethnic group in Malaysia”. But “dominance of Malays in politics” in the sense getting the people they want voted in and hold office is different from the supremacist concept of “Ketuanan Melayu” and what it implies , don’t you think so?

    On a lighter vein I’d like to refer to what Count Dracula said, “Yes, one of the so-called Forefathers Jefferson had a black slave as his concubine and had children by her he refused to recognize”.

    He refused to recognize in the sense he abandoned them or he refused to legitimise them by marriage of their mother but yet tol care of them – there being a big difference here?

    At his time and milieu when slavery was still in vogue I think it is understandable how politically it would be untenable for him to be President and take a black slave as legal wife.

    But even to have children by her was a brave and honorable act besides “lustful” act.

    I make no moral judgment on lust. Many great and intelligent men have lust proportunate to their brains and achievements.

    The point is had he been hounded to resign in shame like Dr Chuah Soi Lek, would he be able to bequeath as important and enlightened a Constitutional legacy as the Declaration of Independence (of which he was one of principal authors) to Americans??? So maybe we should think again whether it is wise to hound politicians out of office when they are otherwise brilliant and could serve the public well (like Jefferson) just because of their so called shortfall and lapse in private morality as adjudged by their sexual scandals.

  27. #27 by Colonel on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 7:35 am

    “I make no moral judgment on lust. Many great and intelligent men have lust proportunate to their brains and achievements.” Jeffrey

    I believe what you really wanted to say was “lust proportional to their heads”.

  28. #28 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 8:50 am

    “The point is had he been hounded to resign in shame like Dr Chuah Soi Lek…” Jeffrey

    When you are a public figure, the wrong is in being caught and not in the doing.

  29. #29 by Tickler on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 8:56 am

    “Ketuanan Melayu” is a smokescreen for Islamo fascism that is fast taking roots in this country. -Count Dracula

    That is the crux of the problem. The ideology includes `dhi_mmi`, `Jizy_a` etc.

  30. #30 by Tickler on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 9:01 am

    Side note:

    MCA`s Wong Chun Wai doesn`t see the necessity of foreign Indian labor and would love to have them packed off – after he wins in the GE:

    `Why should Malaysia be apologetic if we decide not to use Indian labour or any nationalities for that matter? We owe them nothing.`

    http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/1/20/focus/20067798&sec=focus

  31. #31 by kanthanboy on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 9:33 am

    While it is true that racism exists in every corner of the world due to the sinful nature of human race. There will always be people who are racist or has propensity to be racist just like there are people like Hitler, Pol Pot and Sadam Hussein who are naturally cruel and cold blooded. The difference in Malaysia is that the government is promoting racism by institutionalized racial discrimination. In democratic countries like US, Canada, and many European countries, racial discrimination is considered as hate crime and there are punitive laws to prevent incidents of racial discrimination and punish those who are found guilty. In Malaysia you find people like shamshul anur who sees nothing wrong with racial discrimination as long as it benefits the Malays who form the largest ethnic group of the country. Is this the way the Malays want to attain your Ketuanan Melayu? May be they should do a reality check. It is hard work and not handouts that will spur a race to progress. Can you see why Malaysia with all its advantage of natural resources has lagged so far behind Singapore? TDM may be a compulsive liar but he was telling the truth when he pleaded with the Malays to get rid of their crutches.

  32. #32 by Anba on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 9:37 am

    Dear AwangSayang,
    I’d like to thank you for your comments.

    You mentioned that ” Please be a little finesse and tackful, not all Malays like what you think. I’m all out want CHANGE in our country . Don’t allow UMNO to use your comment to alarm the Malays.”

    Awang, I really do NOT want want to be tactful in this matter. I’d like to present this bitter truth as it is. The truth hurts. There are many Malays like you who wants change and I applaud all of you for your stand. But the Malays who wants change should begin to educate Malays like Shamsu, who is like ‘Katak di bawah tempurung’. I too want the Malays to rise to the occasion by their merit and be world class in their thinking. It is my intention to have UMNO to use my comments to alarm the Malays. Indians like me are tired with the way we are pushed around. We do not want to be second class citizen in our country of birth.

    The are certain violence done to the other races’ soul by this discrimination. My soul is telling me that enough is enough. I have reached the point of Rosa Parks. You may or may not recall the story of Rosa Parks, an African American woman, in December 1st 1955, in Montgomerry, Alabama, did something she was not supposed to do : she sat down at the front of a bus in one of the seats reserved for whites — a dangerous, daring, and provocative act in a racist society. 8 years after the Rosa Parks event, Martin Luther King Jr made the “I have a Dream Speech” when he addressed a crowd more than 200,000 civil rights protesters gethered at The Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC. A year after the march on Washington, the Congress of the United States of America established the Civil Rights Act of 1964. When Rosa Parks was asked why she decided to sit down at the front of the bus that day, she replied that she sat down because she was tired. She did not mean that her feet was tired but meant that her soul was tired, her heart was tired, her whole being was tired of playing by racist rules, of denying her soul’s claim to selfhood.

    Like Rosa Parks, I do not wish to keep quiet anymore. I know many Indians in the country are afraid of what might happen to them if they speak out. To those Indians, my advise is that let’s not allow the Malays ( those who organize and discriminate the other races ) push us anymore. Let’s not ‘prostitute’ our souls by keeping quiet to injustice. Our conscience is at risk of violation of the natural order, which is freedom in doing what we love, what our soul loves to do.

    Awang further said , ” I hope Shamsul dont make this Anba comment an issue. I’m a Malay too but I can take punches from Anba but I know that not many Malays can take it.”.

    I am hoping that Shamsul will make my comment an issue, I also hope that it is circulated up to Pak Lah. My aim is to let the government know that other races will not tolerate injustice and it’s about time UMNO take a different direction and stop promoting the idiotic ‘ketuanan Malayu’ sentiment and stop looking stupid by pulling out the ‘keris’ in assemblies. The fact that you can take my comments is that you have transcended from the typical Malays like Shamsul. I congratulate you. I know many Malays cannot assimilate my comments, it’s because they have been spoilt by the virtue of birth. They have been spoilt to the notion that the Government will bail them out in any circumstances. They have been spoilt by the fact that they have been given ‘free lunches’ for over 50 years now. My intention is to awake the Malays to the reality and hoping that such comments will transcend them to think like AwangSayang.

    May God bless Shamsul and other Malays like him to wake up and realize that by giving equal opportunity to other races is in deed in accordance to the teachings of Islam.

  33. #33 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 9:51 am

    //I believe what you really wanted to say was “lust proportional to their heads”//-Colonel.

    Yes most definitely, that too, having regrad to the relative ease with which they could countenace an outright rejection and rebuff with pride intact. :)

  34. #34 by jus legitimum on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 10:37 am

    Why our house is so messy and our ‘red dot’ neighbour’s house is so neat and clean? It is because they don’t practise ‘ketuanan’ and racial discrimination but only meritocracy.Understand Mr.Shamsul?

  35. #35 by cancan on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 10:52 am

    Well written, Anba.

    I believe many non-Malays are tired of this ketuanan Melayu created by the Umnoputras.

    I hope all the Shamsuls and Awangs will help to ‘open’ the minds of the Malays and not be trapped by this ketuanan Melayu legacy created by the Umnoputras.

    The Umnoputras are destroying our belove country.

    Please remember,not all Malays are lazy,not all Chinese are smart and not all Indians are drunkards.

    There is always the good,the bad and the ugly in life.Regardless of race,of course.

  36. #36 by max2811 on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 10:56 am

    Corrections: KJ is the son of a [deleted]
    His priority now is to destroy Msia.

  37. #37 by BlackEye on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 11:06 am

    “Please remember,not all Malays are lazy…”

    How are we supposed to read this statement? That most Malays are lazy?

  38. #38 by BlackEye on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 11:11 am

    “You may or may not recall the story of Rosa Parks, an African American woman, in December 1st 1955, in Montgomerry, Alabama, did something she was not supposed to do : she sat down at the front of a bus in one of the seats reserved for whites — a dangerous, daring, and provocative act in a racist society.”

    Is there a law in Malaysia that requires non-Malays to sit at the back of the bus or separate toilets for Malays and non-Malays. There used to be separate toilets during colonial times i.e. between whites and locals.

  39. #39 by disapointed86 on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 11:17 am

    Anba, i totally agree with you..

    “The truth is that dominance of Malays in politics is due to a very simple reason. Malays form the largest etnic group in Malaysia. I am sure you are aware that politics is a number game, at least in this planet” – Shamsul annuar

    I dont mind if the Malays are dominance in the sense that they occupy more seats compare to other races according to ratio in the races in Malaysia..but please stop implement something that other races dont like…Shamsul, please be reminded that Malaysia is not a Muslim/Malay country..why do you guys call it “Berbilang Kaum, Multi-Racial”?..are you happy with the government TODAY?..weakess Government in 50 years?..i believe some Malays out there wish to have a change…But “MAJORITY” are still enjoying life..like what ANBA said “Katak di Bawah Tempurung”..to be honest with you, i dont discriminate other races as im a Chinese..i use to have many Malay friends in the past and present…some even regarded me as Mix-BLood or part of them as i can BM pretty well..
    issue.
    “I’m a Malay too but I can take punches from Anba but I know that not many Malays can take it” – AwangSayang
    Did you following the recent Parliament debates?..guess if you have followed everything..the answer is there..you need to bear in mind that MAJORITY of the MP are so BODOH/SOMBONG..abit abit utter foul language/put out KERIS?..is this the Malay that you proud of..as the Malay proverb goes “Kerana nila setitik rosak susu sebelanga (Because of a drop of dye, the whole pot of milk is ruined)….

  40. #40 by disapointed86 on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 11:27 am

    Is there a law in Malaysia that requires non-Malays to sit at the back of the bus or separate toilets for Malays and non-Malays. There used to be separate toilets during colonial times i.e. between whites and locals. – Blackeye

    You’re to naive to stand behind the government buy saying that..Anba is just point out an example..just like some of the funding is only for BUMIPUTRAS..same thing..means that non-bumi cannot touch the fund..what about the “LITTLE MULLAH” who come out with some “WEIRD” laws?it is to be made compulsary somemore..??

  41. #41 by Anba on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 11:28 am

    Dear Blackeye,
    Of course I did not mean that non Malays sit separately in the bus…it is a methaphor used to describe Rosa Parks decision to fight for her rights by sitting where she should not sit. It is to say that non Malays too need to rise to the occasion and stand up for their rights.

    May God bless Malaysia.

  42. #42 by Tickler on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 11:47 am

    ..non Malays sit separately in the bus…-posted above

    Rate at which things are going someday they well might. Cab driver the other day told a non muslim to roll the window down, as he didn`t want to breathe the same air (at the LRT in PJ).
    Passenger got off.

  43. #43 by Jong on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 12:26 pm

    What “Ketuanan Melayu”? Amusing indeed, what’s that when UMNO is so dependent on that “Tongkat NEP” without which they cannot even stand straight.

    If there’s any pride left, jump in onto a level playing field to compete with other races and remove all barriers of protection. What’s the point of hiding behind that ‘exclusive race priviledges’ and shout who is incharge!

    Yeah ‘politics is a number game’, give the monkeys some brain and they’ll swear they’re in the centre of the universe!

  44. #44 by mendela on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 12:29 pm

    What “First Family”? You meant Agung’s family?

    Dr. Chen, if you were talking about the PM family, you should name it as “First Crook Family” or “First Air-head Family” instead.

  45. #45 by ChinNA on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 1:57 pm

    To Dr Chen Man Hin,

    An important question: Are we who are citizen’s of Malaysia any less Malaysian than Nori Abdullah or Khairy Jamaluddin or Jibreil Ali Jamaluddin?

    Upon careful, I could not see that being explicitly stated. However, it is explicitly stated that having inherited genetic make-up of multiple races qualifies one to be more Malaysian.

    I don’t not agree with is approach.

  46. #46 by kanthanboy on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 2:48 pm

    “Is there a law in Malaysia that requires non-Malays to sit at the back of the bus or separate toilets for Malays and non-Malays.” – BlackEye

    Non Malay Ministers in the cabinet are not allowed to become PM, DPM or Minister of Finance, Education, Home Affair, Foreign Affair, Trade and Industries………..Defense.
    Non Malays are not allowed to be Secretary General of Ministries. Non Malays are not allowed to be the Chief Judge, President of the Court of Appeal, the IGP. Non Malays are not allowed to be the Dato Bandar of major cities and of course they are not allowed to be the vice chancellor of public universities. If someone were to list down all those positions which non Malays are not allowed to hold the list can be as long as the entire book of telephone directory.

    What is more insulting is that there is actually no such law that non Malays are not allowed to fill those posts. Discriminations are implemented by all the little Napoleons with the blessing of the BN government. Little Napoleons are barbarians; they have no respect for the law.

  47. #47 by scorpian6666 on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 3:14 pm

    In Australia, there is this 10% or 30% and so on Aboriginal Blood, even whites people are becoming ‘Abo’ well, to claim for ‘Abo’ rights

    Maybe we should also fight for something like that in Malaysia…It would be interesting to find how many Malaysian with Indian or Chinese names would suddenly become as bumiputra as the PM himself.

    Uh! maybe then that is why … this place is becoming more Islamic to prevent this from happening !

  48. #48 by scorpian6666 on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 3:35 pm

    This for you — shamshul,

    I find it hard to believe guy like you who had lived in the US, would equal dominance & supremacy of Malays in politics to the rights of the Malay represented by UMNO to demolish the minority’s temples in the same ways as inequality in all other fields such as employment, education and etc etc…
    In a simple English — BULLYING—, I would be ashame to even have a 1% of Malay blood.

    I would not mind being part of the Malay, if that’s people like Anba represented the Malay population…

    You actually have bring untold shame to the Malay RAce inself

  49. #49 by trashed on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 3:46 pm

    Continuing kanthanboy’s list,

    Non Malays are not allowed to be Chief of Army, Navy or Air Force.

    Non Malays are not allowed to be CEOs of GLCs.

    Non Malays do not get 2 chances of balloting at IPOs.

    Non Malays are permitted only 45% of university entrance allotments.

    Non Malays are not given housing discounts.

    Non Malays do not form the bulk of the holders of APs.

    The list can go on.

  50. #50 by HB Lim on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 3:50 pm

    We saw a Malay man in a watch shop in Times Square paying more than a hundred thousand ringgit for a designer watch and we say he must be one of those cronies who became rich through corruption.

    We saw a Malay young family in the Jaya Jusco and tell ourselves that they must be government servants well taken care of by the government and probably became a little financially free because of little ‘presents’ here and there.

    We saw a group of middle-aged Malays in a chic cafe in a Shah Alam hotel lobby lounge and our impression was that these are Ali Baba’s who sell millions of ringgits of government projects but who do not even have to keep proper accounts of their “businesses”.

    We listen to Malay so-called professors expounding year one elementary stuff in ‘apa..ni..?’ BM interspersed with broken English and we say they are those typical ‘run-of-the mill like factory-products-without-quality-control’, typical spoon-fed, designed-to-pass-at-all-cost, government fully-sponsored (fees-board-meals-pocket money-guaranteed pass) half-baked mahasiswas.

    We look at Malay parents coming to fetch their children at schools and say how lucky that they do not have to worry about the costs of their children’s higher education.

    And every time, we attend sales launches of new houses, we can pissed off with the special bumi discounts and allocations of bumi lots.

    And we still hear them shouting for more subsidies and special rights just because they are Malays, not bthatb thuey are deserving for any reason. Just because they are Malays.

    The fact is that a Malay would be lost, unable to cope and survive, if they were to be stripped of all special privileges and governmental support. What then can they do now? Hang on to the ‘ketuanan Melayu’ and support UMNO politics even though it is shameful politics. Enlightened Malays talk about changes – I can fully understand that if a Malay is enlightened enough, he would feel ashamed of how his race has been weakened by the tongkats -but can they survive in a changed world? The ultimate victims of this discriminatory ‘Malay Special Rights’ system are the Malays themselves for when they are finally being chased out of the tempurung, they would have their eyes immediately blinded by the piercing lights of competition for survival of the fittest.

    We should not be envious of or angered by them but should instead pity them. By challenging the present system, we are actually doing them a favour but being utterly dependant on it for survival, they see us as their enemies. The irony is that by being the present beneficiary of the subsidy system, they will end up the victims of that same system. How long can the subsidy system go on without bursting at the seams?

    I believe that it is too late in the day to hope for any changes to the system. All we can do is to prevent it from being enlarged or let it go on unabated until it bursts.A large majority of Malays if not all want the system to go on. [deleted]

    Sad that UMNO-MCA-MIC have got us so entangled in this social and political mess. After 50 myears, we could have real Muhibbah and a real Malaysian identity and race in a system based on merits. A Malaysian Malaysia, where alll people can mix and respect one another. Make fun of one another and be a truly great nation of happy, colourful people.

    What we have now is a fragmented people that after 50 years of independence is still being asked to be tolerant of each other. Joking with each other or joking about the other is out-of-place. Be tolerant, don’t talk about sensitive issues and nine out of ten issues touching on Malays and Islam are sensitive issues.

    A non-Malay Malaysian has more opportunities to be the Mayor of Sydney or Melbourne than to be a District Officer in Malaysia let alone the Mayor of KL. He has more opportunities to be a leading scientist in NASA than to be an Associate Professor let alone the Dean of the Faculty of Science or Engineering in the University of Malaya.

    There is little left of merits here. Now, when it is near the GE, suddenly you see and hear the call to have more Malays in the civil service, in the National Service etc as if these shortages are fresh problems. It will be more form than substance if after getting into the civil service, you are stagnated in promotion because of your race or religion. The truth is that all trust is gone. Most people do not believe that there has been a spiritual and political awakening to the truth amongst the Malays.

    And the Malays in the subsidy system have mostly the same mentality – just clock your time, there is no competition and the appointment is guaranteed or secured. Just stay within the system, don’t rock it and you will have your job for life with promotions and salary increases progressively thrown in. What now – there is a call for a system where you can rest for 5 years and come back to your original job!

    So, can we expect the Malay majority to change the government?

    What can we do if we have an ex-PM for more than 20 years and an ex-CJ lying through the skin of their teeth when testifying in a Royal Commission investigation into a flagrant and embarrassing compromise of the merits system of promotion in the judiciary? It is as if they are saying, ‘so what if I screw up the system? So what if I deny the truth? What can you do to me?’ Such arrogance, such shamelessness, such impunity….where is Malaysia heading for!!!???

  51. #51 by bukanbumi on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 5:21 pm

    Shamshul, your argument is flawed ! In US the Blacks are given priority in employment. A non white can even given a shot at the presidential election!.

    In Brazil there are about 5% Brazilian of Japanese origin, but non of them is being discriminated.

    In Peru, even a guy of Japanese descent can become their president!

    In most latin Americas, there are almost no discrimination against the minorities.

    Do you know the reason why? Its because as long as all of them speak the language of the land, they are considered one of them.

    Now back to Malaysia, all of us speak Bahasa Melayu don’t we? But the non Bumi are still considered pendatang, Why? It is because of RELIGION.

  52. #52 by justiciary on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 5:56 pm

    Do you all agree as voiced by a top political Umo leader that the Malays became backward for 500 years since the advent of the Portugese in Malacca?So when people suggested to review the NEP,the same fella implied that the NEP needed to be continued for another 460 years just to make back their loss.Imagine this type of argument can come out from the ‘coconut head’.

  53. #53 by awangsayang on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 6:38 pm

    dajia hao,

    xiao shihou (When I was young in Chinese), I use to spend my school term holidays at my untie house in a Rubber Plantation Estate with majority Indian community. My aunt and uncle is a typical malay can speak fluent Tamil and a bit Telugu. The Indian community here are very nice and some are lazy and some are hard working. Some kids here like to go to school and some don’t. There are lazy malay folks too. I and my Indian friends used to play inside the temple compound and have lots of funs. There is also a toddy joint just similar like what we saw in Sentul those days behind IGB Plaza, now no more.The patrons of the joint are very friendly, me and my friends have waday and coconut juice. There is no racial feelings here and it is so peaceful like heaven on earth. Neigther Indians or Malay acusing each other ‘STUPID’ Now most Rubber Estate becomes Housing Estate. When MIC and Umno came… Heaven is Lost.
    “Hua Ren” there are many who are poor and broke too. My Chinese friend father died. he treats me very nice when he was alive. I went to Chip Sin Tong at Jalan Sultan near Petaling Street to pay my last respect. I saw five dead body without coffin surrounded by the dead respective families waiting for donation to give a decent funeral for their loves one. See.. not all Chinese are smart and rich either. Now lets not pointing finger at any race but talk to each other on constructive matters. To Anba, I have read a bit about Malcom X, Dr Martin luther King and also Klu Klux Klan many years ago. Lets Talk Unity. The failure of this country because of corrupted leaders. The Malaysian people are innocent but not UMNO Leaders. UMNO Leaders use issues on racial riots to win on every election to win support. UMNO FEARS Racial Unity. Talk to your Malay, Chinese, Indian friends now. Zhu dajia jiankang

  54. #54 by cheng on soo on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 8:30 pm

    Msian wasting too much time argue about bumi /non bumi, ketuanan etc. Why? bcos of BN (umno) policy. We should focus more on develop Msia. Not many multi racial countries waste so much time on this! Malay, Chinese, Indian etc are basically similiar, all just wan a place to call home, can work cari makan fairly, educate their kids, etc.
    It is the damned politicians who incite racial hatred etc trying to make race A hate race B , C vice versa, twist n turn their words policies etc. Racial politic is very bad for every one!
    Real sad for Msia!

  55. #55 by BlackEye on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 11:12 pm

    So I say we shoot all politicians first and lawyers second.

  56. #56 by Anba on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 11:31 pm

    Dear Awangsayang,
    Hi there. Thanks for your note. I’d like to mention again that whenever I mention the word ‘Malay’ in my posting, I am referring to the Malays and the Malay politicians who are exploiting other races.

    I too had a good harmonious time growing up with Malay and Chinese friends. I still have very good Malay and Chinese friends. I still remember how I felt after my SPM…seeing my Malay friends progressing in their life and studies and I personally felt left behind. It was later when I left the country for further studies with a loan that I realized the polarization and systematic discrimination by the Malays to dampen the spirit of non Malays.

    You mention that ” Lets Talk Unity. The failure of this country because of corrupted leaders. The Malaysian people are innocent but not UMNO Leaders. UMNO Leaders use issues on racial riots to win on every election to win support. UMNO FEARS Racial Unity. Talk to your Malay, Chinese, Indian friends now.”.

    Awang sayang, I’m all out for unity. By writing in this blog, I’m actually talking to other Malays and Chinese brothers. But this unity does NOT come from talking alone. This unity comes from changing the legistlation of the country. Constitution needs to be ammended for unity to take place. Recent mulling from Pak Lah to give a public holiday for Malaysia for Thaipusam is applauded, but this should not soften Indians hearts in thinking that the government is doing good for the non Malays. This public holiday should have been given 50 years ago, this is too late. But thanks anyway for the changes.

    Thanks again Awangsayang. May God bless your soul who yearns for unity.

    May God bless Malaysia.

  57. #57 by Anba on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 11:40 pm

    Dear Cheng On Soo,
    Hi there. You wrote, ” Msian wasting too much time argue about bumi /non bumi, ketuanan etc. Why? bcos of BN (umno) policy. We should focus more on develop Msia. Not many multi racial countries waste so much time on this! Malay, Chinese, Indian etc are basically similiar, all just wan a place to call home, can work cari makan fairly, educate their kids, etc.”.

    If you look at those who made fundamental changes like Gandhi and Martin Luther King in India and USA respectively, it was based on standing up and fighting non violently on the fundamental flaws of human rights. They did NOT fight to ‘CARI MAKAN’ because this fight for injustice is not about being selfish and cari makan. This fight for injustice is about sharing on issues thats critical and sharing one’s conscience about the flaws of fundamental human rights. Let’s not confuse CARI MAKAN with this fight for freedom and combating injustice.

    May God bless Malaysia.

  58. #58 by kaybeegee on Sunday, 20 January 2008 - 11:49 pm

    Dr Chen Man Hin. UMNO first divided Malaya into Malays and non Malays. Tun Razak you might recall came up with this phrase “the haves” and the have-nots” meaning the Malays are the have nots and the non Malays, have.Than it was Bumiputra and non Bumiputras

    After the creation of Malaysia, Saudara Shamsul Annuar, because Sabah and Sarawak has natives, the classification became Muslim Bumiputra and non Muslim Bumiputra, to cover for the non Muslims in Sabah and Sarawak.
    Now where the original people of Malaya fit in?

    Today we are still classified as Muslim or non Muslim, as the MyKad will state Islam for those who have when applying for the Kad declared themselves as Muslims. That is fine by me.

    Now I travel a lot and thank my God I have no occassion to travel to Islamic countries, where the majority of the people are Muslims (and not as in Malaysia). If UMNO can have Islam printed on the MyKad can I ask that my passport be endorsed with the words non Muslim? Or bearer of this Passport is not a Muslim? Makes travelling overseas smoother, for me.

    And for those foreigners or economic refugees or job seekers from abroad who have married malay women and have settled in the greener pastures here in Bolehland, they should be proud of their newly acquired religion and make it mandatory that should have in their Passports endorsed the fact that they are Muslim and also their Muslim names. Helps for burial purposes too.

  59. #59 by Colonel on Monday, 21 January 2008 - 7:08 am

    “If UMNO can have Islam printed on the MyKad can I ask that my passport be endorsed with the words non Muslim? Or bearer of this Passport is not a Muslim? Makes travelling overseas smoother, for me.”

    Don’t you know having an identity card is frowned upon by countries practicing democracy? Countries like the U.K. whose government gave us the identity card do not have identity cards. All you need to prove who you are is to produce your utility bills? You can open a bank account by just showing your utility bill? The U.S. even post 9/11 do not like the idea of a national identity card. Their driving licenses which double up as identity cards do not state your religion.

    “Tun Razak you might recall came up with this phrase “the haves” and the have-nots”” kaybeegee

    Tun Razak never came up with terms “haves” and “have-nots” These terms are in use before he was born.

  60. #60 by BoDo Singh on Monday, 21 January 2008 - 7:41 am

    “Now I travel a lot and thank my God I have no occassion to travel to Islamic countries, where the majority of the people are Muslims (and not as in Malaysia).” kaygeebee

    Huh??
    [deleted]

  61. #61 by jus legitimum on Monday, 21 January 2008 - 12:17 pm

    The list can go on,in today’s Sun,Citizen Nades reveals the wrongdoings of people appointed(by right should be elected) to run the MBPJ.Abuse of power,corruption and what not have ruined and sacrificed the interest of ratepayers.This is just the tip of the iceberg.If you have the capablities of people like Citizen Nades,you will be able to dig out even more cans of worms festering the local economy.Who are the greedy and self serving idiots that are misappropriating the funds of local councils with impunity?.The list can go on……..

  62. #62 by verbal-lash on Monday, 21 January 2008 - 1:59 pm

    Jus legitimum,

    I agree with you. Citizen Nades have been writing a lot about corruption and misappropriating of funds, etc by the local Governments, but sadly, have you seen any action being taken against them? They are still looting fancy free. Why? Because they know they are above it all and will come to no harm under this BN Govt. Heck! Almost everybody in civil service is doing it!

  63. #63 by Luther on Monday, 21 January 2008 - 2:54 pm

    To all respectfull bloggers,we should refrain ourselves from using the word multiracial society anymore,kerana di sini hanya ada melayu,dan ketuanan melayu telah menghilangkan kesemua hakasasi bukan melayu sebagai sebahagian kaum malaysia yang ditaksif sebagai berbilang bangsa.Oleh yang demikian,betapa tingginya hasrat kita yang bukan melayu ingin menjadi sebagai orang malaysia seperti yang dikehendaki oleh umno dan mereka yang bodoh sombong tidak akan tercapai,lihatlah contoh dan kesedihan yang ditunjuk dalam lagu “negaraku ku” dan reaksi ahli politik kita yang mengangap insan malaysia itu sebagai orang yang sangat bersalah,dosa dan tidak dapat dimaafkan,tetapi mereka tidak mahu nampak banyak kejadian yang lebih dahsyat dan memalukan negaraku,mereka maafkan semua benda yang sepatutnya lebih berat hukumannya dan membiarkannya bermaharajarela.apa ni..
    semua agama tidak memilih bangsa,kalau I betul dan benar.maka kenapa ada pilih kasihan dan diskriminisasi kaum yang sengaja dihalalkan,patutlah Pas menuduh umno kurang islam kerna mengikut ajaran agama,kita seharusnya adil walaupun tak semestinya 50:50 tetapi sekurang-kurangnya 55:45 mengikut kesaksamaan majoriti dan minoriti.Dari mana timbulnya soal ketuanan?bukankah agama kita mengajar kita hanya Tuhan yang Maha Besar,dan Ia saja yang Tuan kepada semua? Shamsul anur memang betul dan benar,kalau mengikut logik politik tetapi apakah kamu lupa tanggungjawap keagamaan kamu yang selama ini dilaung-luangkan?mana keislaman kamu ?
    sudah marah,dan rasa ketidakpuasan,marilah undi parti pembangkang ramai-ramai untuk menidakkan majoriti yang selama ini dinikmati tanpa syukur untuk masa depan malaysia yang lebih terbilang dan lebih gemilang, what do you think ? Shamsul dan semua melayu yang tukat hilang sesuatu jangan risau, kita tak mau jadi PM atau menidakkan melayu tapi hanya mau keadilan bangsa seperti yang diajar oleh agama dan khususnya agama kamu.Kita hanya mau diterima sebagai Malaysian tanpa diskriminisasi,kita tak mau lagi negaraku ku tapi Negaraku.
    Look aku ini Cina tapi telah dimalaysiakan kerna BM boleh cari makan tapi English sudah jadi chinglish rojaklah tapi U semua pasti faham aku sedang mau bilang apakan? Talk alone doesn’t work,action now in every GE and may God bless us Malaysian will have little changes once every 5 years and the next 50 years our wishes will not remain as dreams anymore.

  64. #64 by shaolin on Monday, 21 January 2008 - 10:32 pm

    It is Not the color of the skin of AAB and KJ that determine
    the multi-racial, multi national race of Malaysia’s new breed!

    We can have 5 or 6 nationalities of parentage but the mind-
    set of the new breed Malaysian remains unchanged..! This
    is something we do not want to see and be cultured in
    New Malaysian breed manifesto!!

    We want to see change in mental revolution and mindset,
    not just skin color alone and that does not make sense of
    creating new Malaysia breed to be future leaders of Malaysia!

  65. #65 by ktteokt on Tuesday, 22 January 2008 - 8:57 pm

    If everyone can remember the famous fables we read in our younger days, one would recall the story of The Ant and The Grasshopper. The ant was hardworking and worked all day long, collecting and storing away food for the winter while the grasshopper was carefree and dancing around. And when the cruel winter arrived, remember who perished?

    Let the grasshoppers carry on their merriment while they still can. Come winter and see who will not be around!

  66. #66 by normgoh on Tuesday, 22 January 2008 - 10:05 pm

    In my opinion, there is no such thing as, “Awak Melayu, saya Cina,” or what so ever…

    I’m a Sarawakian myself and seriously, I don’t really experience such thing here in our place. I’m mixed with Chinese and Bidayuh. I have more Malay (or Bumiputera) friends than Chinese friends. I mean, unlike those politicians, my Malay friends are very nice people, we shared a lot, we even talked about sensitive issues openly. My Muslim friends even taught me about Islam and I’m open about it, and I even shared with them about Buddhism and Christianity.

    I met with my Malay juniors recently and talked about the recent banning of BM Holy bible. Guess what they said when I told them about it, they said,

    “Ini tak betul lah. Dalam Islam, kita semua perlu taat kepada Tuhan yang satu, Allah. Termasuklah Kristian. Buku-buku suci yang diturunkan kepada umat manusia berasal daripada punca yang sama, Allah (a.k.a. God, Tuhan). Kitab Taurat, Zabur, Injil, Quran, dll, adalah untuk manusia, ke arah kebaikan. Nabi-nabi pun sama. Nak panggil Tuhan atau Allah atau God pun sama, yang penting, hati yang ikhlas dan suci. Manusia lah yang membuat segala peraturan dalam agama demi kepentingan sendiri.”

    They even agreed that the move taken by the Cabinet is absurd. They (my friends) respected friends of different religions.

    Dear Malaysians,

    I think we should emulate the lifestyle of Sarawakians. We don’t really face such racial issues here, sad to say, when some radical people come to Sarawak, they introduce bad influences (especially ‘disintegration’ of races) to the cultures of Sarawak when people here live in harmony despite vast difference in their religions and backgrounds. Our dear PM should take the situation seriously if he wants to win the mandate (which I doubt he could) and emulate the lifestyle of Sarawakians.

  67. #67 by dranony on Tuesday, 22 January 2008 - 11:14 pm

    Shamsul,
    Stop trying to confuse the issue, by intentionally blinding us to the FACT that in Malaysia, the racism is INSTITUTIONALISED!

    Sure, any where you go, there will be bigotry.
    It isn’t any different here, in Malaysia, except that it is INSTITUTIONALISED, and therefore made into OFFICIAL POLICY!
    But by trying to blur the difference between the INSTITUTIONALISED racism in Malaysia, by pointing to unofficial individual bigotry, it simply shows that you are defending the “ketuanan” supremacist mindset.
    In the US, to be accused of racism while performing OFFICIAL duties, is a serious accusation, perhaps comparable to being accusations of “kafir” between UMNO and PAS of years past.
    Such is the official outlook against racism in officialdom there.

    On the other hand, here in Malaysia, because of the “ketuanan” mindset, the Little Mullah Napoleons hardly give any thought to implementing policies that overstep racial boundaries.
    And unfortunately, since race is tied to religion by virtue of definition by the Malaysian Constitution, these LMN hardly give any thought to overstepping religious boundaries as well, hardly giving any thought and respect to the sensitivities of others.

  68. #68 by sotong on Wednesday, 23 January 2008 - 7:50 am

    In the present circumtances, with decades of damaging and divisive politics of race and religion – let alone rampant corruption, gross excesses and abuses, huge GLCs losses, racism, failed NEP and etc., I am happy to be called Orang Asing.

  69. #69 by ktteokt on Thursday, 24 January 2008 - 4:24 pm

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  70. #70 by kaybeegee on Saturday, 9 February 2008 - 6:19 pm

    Sotong you are right. I tell my children ,I will beg, borow but not steal. they need to study well, do well and I WILL TAKE CARE of the rest. Our neighbour’s children are taken care from cradle to grave. We are not.
    But no way I will acknowledge that my neighbour who bought his house at a discount, subsidised by me, walks to the mosque, I drive far to my place of worship, be careful where I park whereas around mosques on Fridays paking is free for all,is ketuanan over me. Hell my civilisation is far superior to his many times over. Mykids know who the real superior race is. Theirs. History in Malaysia can be changed by UMNO but not world wide.

  71. #71 by Cyprophillius on Saturday, 16 February 2008 - 5:21 pm

    Apparently, some people assume politics to be important, but realpolitik however should have been given more priority.

  72. #72 by shamshul anuar on Monday, 25 February 2008 - 11:49 pm

    DEar Kaybeegee,

    This is exactly the problem with you. “Hell, my civilization….”. Be proud with your civilization, But there is no need to put down other civilizations.

    All civilizations have contributed to the mankind. So, mind the mannerism by respecting the contributions. And I fail to understand the fuss over free parking for the congregation. It is the right thing to do.

    Are you saying that Malays are “taken care from cradle to grave”? Wow. this is new to me. Enlighten me on this please. And for your info, I also drive to the mosque.

    And before I forget, may I tell you that a person of your race who stands as BN candidate in Lenggong, need support from “the civilization that you look down” in order to win . And not to forget the same situation in Wangsa Maju, Derga, Alor Star,Kulim, Tanjung Piai to name a few.

    So, at leat my civilization does contribute something. It really saddens me that people can stood that low by mocking other civilizations. So, actually Malays are right after all. “habislah orang Melayu kalau DAP perintah”.

    As for Bukan bumi, I am afraid you are wrong. You also can contest and become for example a Menteri Besar of Kedah. Who is stopping you? Just because you do not win does not mean that there is no fairness in the system.

    As for Awang Sayang, I am not preparing for election. I just defend UMNO for these ridiculous charges. Anba is so upset on UMNO supremacy although she may not say it out loud. UMNO supremacy in Malaysian politics is due to the support of all Malays.

    I accept criticism. What I cant stomach is downright insult. Someone mocks Malay professors. What they do not know is that some of these Associate professors and Professors received the PHD in USA, UK. The way they say make one feel there is no credible Malay professors at all.

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