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by MB
I would like to bring to your attention, the latest happening in SMK Bandar Utama 4 Damansara (near Ikano Power Centre). This school has about 85% of its students who are Chinese. Its first HM is a Chinese and followed by a Malay lady. All this while, the school has a proud tradition of good old days where students can wear shorts for PE lesson, celebration of major Chinese festival like Chinese New Year, cheerleading team and secular school type of school assembly.
Unfortunately, all these good times are gone with the coming of a new Malay headmistress who is a religious bigot. With 10% Muslim students, she is now imposing “bacaan doa” during assembly, banning of the cheerleading team, not more wearing of shorts for PE and the worse of all is that for the coming CNY, the school can have a lion dance performance by WITHOUT the DRUM.
This is really absurd because the Chinese drums are very noisy. How can a minority group in the school imposed their values on the majority group – another case of insensitivity among the Muslims
#1 by Count Dracula on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 2:29 am
“This is really absurd because the Chinese drums are very noisy. How can a minority group in the school imposed their values on the majority group – another case of insensitivity among the Muslims”
It is not about a minority having control over the majority.
This kind of social engineering has to stop! It does not reflect our national value as a people of diverse cultures and traditions. I think UMNO has gone over the edge.
Over decades starting with the Tunku, Razak, Hussein Onn and Mahathir the emphasis has always been on unity through diversity. Has the policy now changed with Abdullah Badawi?
I think it is a failure leadership at the top, giving rise to religious bigots among public officials exercising their initiative and making their own rules – perhaps to test the water, perhaps to take advantage of the situation and claim credit for themselves.
#2 by disapointed86 on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 2:33 am
The worse of all is that for the coming CNY, the school can have a lion dance performance by WITHOUT the DRUM – Kit
Why dont she drive the car without the sterring..in this case.. i will be seen to be imperfect if Lion dance is played without the beating of drums which is also part of the history of the chinese culture..As for the “bacaan doa”, is it conducted in Muslim ways or what…for the convenience of all…if i were the HM of the school…i’ll just let it be like ” Let us all have a moment of silent ” so that everyone will have the chance to pray disregarding of races and religion…er..i dont see wearing shorts for PE is bad? i believe she is too conservative..but 1 thing obvious is that she didnt respect other races…what a disgrace for the “MUSLIM”..act so religious but never respect other races..I DEMAND SHE MAKES PUBLIC APOLOGY like what the Johor English College HM did..
#3 by Jong on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 3:13 am
YB, I think you need to give her a phone-call and ask her what she is trying to do? Then perhaps ask her to visit your blog.
#4 by mendela on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 3:33 am
Such Little Osamas are just the tip of an Iceberg.
Bandar Utama is one of the most affluent residential areas in Malaysia. Most of its residents are well educated.
You can imagine how many Little Osamas are out there at the rural areas throughtout the whole of Malaysia whom are still yet to be exorcised!
#5 by Count Dracula on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 4:30 am
“YB, I think you need to give her a phone-call and ask her what she is trying to do? Then perhaps ask her to visit your blog.”
Yes, tell her to reverse her instructions [deleted … in bad taste, furthermore, this is a serious matter and not a joke. Kit]
#6 by pulau_sibu on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 5:29 am
My Indonesian Christian friend told me that God is known as Tuhan or Allah (but with a slight difference in pronounciation compared to muslims) in Indonesia. So boleh politicians please don’t hijack the language of Indonesians.
#7 by kwkean on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 5:59 am
Good, keep highlighting us with all this kind of news which the local newspaper won’t publish in their dailies.
#8 by DarkHorse on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 7:02 am
Indonesian Christians refer to the Lord our Saviour, as Tuhan Jesus and God as Allah. It does not need to be pronounced the same way. Words common to both are pronounced differently and in some cases they carry different shades of meaning.
#9 by OCSunny on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 7:10 am
The Prime Minister should not be blamed as the responsibility is the Education Minister. He is only interested to enhance himself within UMNO. Even as minister in charge of culture and sports he does not shine
He does not seem to have control of the school heads as they can do things as they think right.
What a stupid and narrow minded woman !!!!
#10 by malaysiatoday.com on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 7:11 am
Actually Anwar is responsible for islamization in 80s and many of his followers may be the headmasters/misters in schools today.
These bigots are narrow-minded and unilaterally imposing many islamic and malay values to non-muslims in schools, universities, government offices, etc.
I was forced to study islamic civilization (a disguise of coverting non-muslims campaign) in local u for three semesters. I dislike for Islam after I finished the islamic civilization course.
#11 by malaysiatoday.com on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 7:20 am
Whether non-muslim is majority or minority in a school not the core issue, the culture and religion of each race have to be respected.
IF someone says let to have mosque without loud speakers (similar to have lion dance with drum), I think some Malays will go amok.
#12 by k1980 on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 8:14 am
All this is part of the Sleeping Iman’s grand plan of the Talibanization and Osamalization of the country.
#13 by smeagroo on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 8:15 am
maybe the HM wanna introduce to the chinese silats during CNY [deleted….when we complain of insensitivity, it is no excuse or justification to be insensitive. kit]
#14 by Cinnamon on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 8:19 am
My son is in primary school in Kulim. Recently the teacher sent a print out of the personal particulars and asked parents to verify.
I was very surprised at the religion category, only 2 choices; Muslim and Non-Muslim. So what does that mean? My religion is non-Muslim, I have a name for my religion, why can’t these [deleted – to be angry is understandable, but it is equally important we should should exercise restraint in public domain. kit] put more choices?
This is what piss of people. I wonder if the format is drafted by the school or by the education ministry itself.
#15 by scorpian6666 on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 8:22 am
One wonder what would happened if Malay populated only 20% of Malaysia, would the same happenings in the southern Thailand start to show in Malaysia.
The current situation in Malaysia where the Malay are enslaved by their own race in regards to free thought, I believe call for a selfless Malay who has the gut to face his own race and tell them “YOu are free NOw to have your own rationality”
With some guidance, Malaysia will the amongst the best Muslim country in the world.
#16 by scorpian6666 on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 8:24 am
sorry .. for the bad english but i know you all know what i meant
#17 by DarkHorse on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 8:40 am
“…for the coming CNY, the school can have a lion dance performance by WITHOUT the DRUM.”
Might as well have the dance without the lion.
#18 by Malaysian on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 8:44 am
malaysiatoday.com Says:
…
“I was forced to study islamic civilization (a disguise of coverting non-muslims campaign) in local u for three semesters. I dislike for Islam after I finished the islamic civilization course”
Yeah, there are many ways to introduce a good religion. When one tries to introduce their supposingly the “most complete and best religion” by FORCING OTHERS is definitely doing more harm to the image of own religion than goods.
#19 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 8:56 am
What malaysiatoday.com said – “Whether non-muslim is majority or minority in a school not the core issue, the culture and religion of each race have to be respected.IF someone says let to have mosque without loud speakers (similar to have lion dance with drum), I think some Malays will go amok” – hits the nail on the head.
The is what Eecutive Director of Sisters in Islam (SIS), Zainah Anwar said in her article “Islam Hadhari champions needed†in New Straits Times, Friday, 3 Nov 2006 quoted by TruthEnquirer in earlier thread:
[Quote] “The intent (of Islamists) is to build support for the Islamist political project of turning Malaysia into an Islamic state with Syariah as the supreme law of the land.
The Islamic state ideologues know they cannot win power through the ballot box as most Malaysians, including Muslims, will not support the kind of intolerant, punitive, bigoted, misogynistic and joyless Islam they stand for.
The strategy then has been to penetrate the academic institutions, the bureaucracy, the Islamic institutions and take over the instruments of governance through the backdoor. Cloak yourself in the mantle of God, intimidate your opponents by declaring them kafir or anti-Islam, eliminate anyone with a differing view by declaring war on pluralism and liberalism, take over the drafting of laws, create further institutions to expand your influence and jurisdiction, pronounce one fatwa after another to further limit the scope of differences and diversity, so that in the end only the Islamist ideological conception of Islam prevails. And you could do all this from within the government apparatus. We do not even have to wait for Pas to come into power”.
And this is what Thomas Jefferson, the third President of the United States (1801–1809) and the principal author of the American Declaration of Independence (1776) said, “Lethargy is the forerunner of death to the public liberty…It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he breaks, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt.â€
And this was what I said in earlier thread on same subject of prefect-songkok policies : “Just for the sake of their votes [ie votes of the segmnent that we think uphold racial and religious bias policies] and a chance with some of their votes at dislodging the den of thieves, do we pay the price here and now, to twist what is wrong and plainly untenable to become not so bad or small thing? It is this tolerating marginal transgression of rights that in aggregate will end up a significant loss of rightful position until one knows what is one’s own heritage”.
Do we try to drive a Faust Bargain just to to be pragmatic and try to appease those who are wrong to get their support? I say No.
Need more to be said?
#20 by dranony on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:02 am
Kompangs are also very noisy.
But if we are to live in a multicultural society, where mutual respect and mutual understanding is to be expected, we should be more tolerant.
The principle of tolerance and respectful reciprocity should be upheld.
If non-Malays can accept the kompang, why can’t Malays accept the chinese drums which are after all, for a limited period only?
Perhaps it is the mentality of “ketuanan” that is driving these little napoleons to have a
“I do can, you do cannot” outlook?
btw, personally, I like the kompang. I feel it very rousing and adds a celebratory cheer to events, just as the chinese drums do.
I have no wish to call for kompang to be banned, in the same manner that the chinese drums are banned.
I am only mentioning the kompang versus chinese drums simply to illustrate the principle of respectful reciprocity.
#21 by malaysiatoday.com on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:26 am
Correction: IF someone says let to have mosque without the loud speakers (similar to have lion dance without the drum), I think some Malays will go amok.
#22 by Anba on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:27 am
Dear Hishamuddin,
Please look into this matter immeadiately. First you want a non Malay to wear songkok, then baca doa…
If you really practice a religion thats fair to all, please give instruction for all your principals and headmasters/mistress to stop behaving like a child. To start with this, please follow merit system in allowing students to enter our local universities. Because merit system is not used, we non Malays need to tolerate with all kinds of nonsense activities that will divide the country further.
May God bless Malaysia.
#23 by Jimm on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:42 am
We all have to thank UMNO for all these religion issues that divided Malaysian until today.
UMNO need a very strong and powerful weapon to gain control of their own people and religion have proven to be the best.
So, welcome to Malaysia.
Today, their own people are self-writing their own version of beliefs in that ONE religion and creating self-understanding to it.
#24 by Libra2 on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:42 am
Tolerance is now a one way traffic. The non-Muslims are supposed to accept ‘absurd do’s and don’t’ imposed upon them. Numbers don’t count anymore. Even when in the minority they will impose rules on you.
Readers will stagger in horror at some of the many ‘dont’s’ imposed on non-Muslim children in schools and even universities. I am befuddled how their minds work. Mind you they are educationists.
Students are easy targets as they have no means to protest or argue with school authorities.
During fasting month the canteen is ordered closed. Non Muslims have to literally ‘hide’ to eat as they are not supposed eat in front of Muslims.
In one university no shorts is allowed (males and females) and no members of the opposite sex is to be seen together in the campus!
All these happening under this so called power-sharing-government. What are the non-Muslim Minsters in the cabinet doing?
#25 by toyolbuster on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:45 am
Our education system has been UMNOnised, started with the BM conversion, and now after the reversal of the 3 subjects into English, there have been attempts to re-reverse them back into the BM medium. Those UMNO racists are not bothered at all cos they send their own children to Private and International schools, some even send them to overseas schools from primary level.
#26 by oknyua on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:47 am
This AAB’s speech was made during the last UMNO General Assembly. Star report Friday November 9, 2007. Time for parochial interests is over, says Pak Lah
On Islam and non-Muslims
“The application of Islam through the prism of shallow minds and narrow interpretations can cause discomfort not only among non-Muslims but among Muslims themselves. Overzealous enforcement can give Islam a negative image. Failure to understand the needs of adherents of other religions and denying them the rights runs counter to the spirit of the Federal Constitution.â€
I am seriously thinking that there is one angle why this happens all the time. The PM had set the policy and I think, with good intention. His inability of implementing as well as his inability of grasping issues that cropped up made him the victims of his own “Napoleons.â€
Why the Napoleons do contrary to PM’s policy may be due to 2 facts.
(1) Recognition is tied to religion and race. Good and satisfactory work is always measured by zealousness in religious and racial fanaticism. If you look around, no form of fanaticism had been addressed. The moderates are often overshadowed. So if you are a Napoleon, the way to be recognised is to openly defy the PM’s policy in matters of religion and race.
(2) This group of Napoleons may not want the attention for promotion but felt that they are doing a service to the race and religion. They “test the waters†by introducing one policy at a time. The lack of leadership from the PM further encourages this group. Now it became apparent because many PM’s policy openly diverges with the practices that we see. The destruction of a small Orang Asli Church in Gua Musang is an example.
YB Lim, I tried my best to shorten the above comment. I hope the points are clear enough.
#27 by People on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:50 am
Looks like BN is slowly islamizing non-malays. So there is actually no difference between BN n PAS administration. Might as well vote for PAS !!
#28 by oknyua on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:59 am
Jeffrey, I didn’t read your comment earlier.
I think what the sisters in Islam wrote is exactly what happens now. When things are shrouded into religious and racial fanaticism, they legitimise the acts of the Napoleons. And any form of protest is directly linked to racial sensitivity.
I must read your comment first before I post, so as to reduce space.
#29 by megaman on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:59 am
The problems with people of such mindsets are “This is how we want things to be, because it shows that we are superior.”
In my opinion, religion is nothing but a disguise or mask for their insecurity and low self-esteem. A lot of so-called “privileged” academics, ulamaks etc (basically, people created by the government policy of preferential treatment towards them) probably have their ego so inflated that they failed to see their own faults or create a state of denial. The easiest way for them to boost their confidence or regain their ego is through enforcing whatever unilateral policies that can showcase their own limited power without regards to whatever harm that this may bring.
“He who learns but does not think, is lost! He who thinks but does not learn is in great danger.” – Confucius.
Seems like we have a lot of the lost and the ignorant running the country.
#30 by malaysianboleh on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 10:00 am
I am amuse to read what malaysiatoday.com Says:
Today at 07: 20.17 (2 hours ago)
Whether non-muslim is majority or minority in a school not the core issue, the culture and religion of each race have to be respected.
IF someone says let to have mosque without loud speakers (similar to have lion dance with drum), I think some Malays will go amok.
I remember an orang putih complaining that at the early hour 545 am he got this noise polution from a near by mosque speaker. He cycle to that mosque and cut off the wire to the speaker system. The result is the poor orang puteh lended him self in the Jail.
Just look at that senario by having Chinese drum during chinese new year Lion dance is noisy according the HM in Bandar Utama BU4 school.So YB you must telephone her and ask her the loud sound from the speaker that coming from the mosque it should be discribe as What ?. Even the Mat salleh cannot take it !!!
#31 by DarkHorse on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 10:00 am
I have always maintained all along that our PM is no leader of men. He is a follower all his life – and a good one which was why he survived the crises of leadership during Mahathir’s tenure as PM, which is why Mahathir appointed him deputy. He harbored no ambition of taking over like Anwar did.
The United States is in the midst of choosing their next President. What qualities are they looking for in their President? Democrat or Republican, he must first be a strong leader.
In the case of our PM, his Ministers are taking advantage of his weak leadership to go on a frolic of their own. This behavior is reflected in the behavior of heads of department of our civil service and is beginning to permeate the lower echelons of government.
#32 by jus legitimum on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 10:50 am
The mainstream media should report and highlight these insensitive acts against non muslims and non Malays.The general public deserve the right to know all these acts of ‘little Osama’.After all democracy is depicted by actions and not just talk and ‘BS’.
#33 by malaysia born on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 10:52 am
These people thinking are taking our young ones backwards. One of the 1st thing that we as parents should do is to be more active in the PTA’s to act as a watchdog on these people intentions.
who are the ones who gave these headmaster/headmistress the power to implement such changes?
#34 by pkrisnin on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 11:00 am
Now I can understand why the Chinese do not want to give up their Chinese School
#35 by Bigjoe on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 11:03 am
The issue of Little Napoleans is not just in schools. The schools are just a microsm of what is going on around us. In government offices (especially in municipalities), agencies, GLCs. In fact push even many rich professional bumiputeras far enough and the Little Napolean in them will come out to claim their ‘special right’. ‘Little Napoleanisis’ is a disease with varying degree of severity.
Little Napoleanisis is really about a failure of leadership. Its only the mediocre leaders that focuses on such things – resorting to easy means to accomplish rather dealing with hard issues. Little Napoleanisis is not a Malay culture, its not even part of right-wing conservative Malay culture in the yesteryears. Little Napoleanisis was really spread during the tenure of the biggest Little Napolean, Dr. M.
The issue with Little Napoleanisis is not so much that this PM has no clue what to do about it. That is a given. The issue with Little Napoleanisis is that the NEXT GENERATION of leaders also do not know what to do about it. The likes of KJ, privilleged and entitled, feel perfectly fine to take advantage of other weakness for their own, often self-justified, goals.
The next generation of leaders are not going to rise up by going through a system that is accountable to the people or at least some decent, bright people. They are in position, given privilleged, power and resources to do what they want with very marginal regard for what Malaysians really envision.
Such a system, where people rise to the top but not tested is a recipe for for disaster sooner or later. Then we would have our very own real Napolean who ultimately nearly destroyed France. By then it would be too late.
#36 by Eric_gemini_007 on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 11:12 am
i dont see any Independence as the cultural understanding is not even achieved at the BASIC Educational level. Where is CONSIDERATION for other community?
#37 by sheriff singh on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 11:24 am
These cases in Bandar Utama and Johor Baru are only samples of what is happening in schools all over the country. I am sure that many, many more cases are yet to be reported. Perhaps we should encourage readers to bring out more cases so that we know about the rot that is setting in in our education system. Its no point dealing in piecemeals. Let us see if this is a common thing in all schools and then if it is an issue, deal with it in a macro way.
The reading of the doa as an example, is quite common in many schools especially in the rural areas and in schools where there are many muslims, so no one complains. So this new HM is merely implementing what she is used to at her former school for “uniformity”, a word regularly used as an excuse for implementing many unpopular things in this country. Perhaps it could also be a subtle and unwritten government policy to be infused in schools and in whatever things the government has an interest in.
But certainly there are many little Napoleons and Napoleonesses around. But how do we get rid of them when that one big weak Napoleon with big ears and closed eyes allow them to exist and fester?
#38 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 11:39 am
YB,
Is this only a problem of little Napoleons and Napoleonesses around in schools? Today the news is that effective from tomorrow the government directed that all male servants have to wear batik. I have nothing against the batik. I wear it myself sometimes. And it is the national dress. But what is the rationale that all male civil servants in terms of dress code have the wear batik everyday to work (not just functions) where in the past such a ruling was not there? Is it another step to demonstrate cultural hegemony of the majority’s dress code like the songkok in EC under the guise that it is a national dress? Is it to improve Civil service efficiency ? Their efficiency is a function of atitudes: whence is it dependent on a uniform dress code, and batik at that? Or it someone has an private interest in promoting batik industry and private business in it? Or what? I repeat : this is not a directive of little Napoleons and Napoleonesses in school system. It is from the government. Which big Napoleon ordered this and why?
#39 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 11:41 am
Typo omission corrected in bold – “male CIVIL servants have to wear batik”. Sorry.
#40 by sean on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 11:51 am
Somebody higher up is playing and toying with our Education Minister.
And lets also make sure that bias Hm or any other teacher be sack should they in anyway practice discrimination because schools are not the place for them and they don’t belong to this society at all.
#41 by grace on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 12:02 pm
Mr. Lim,
As long as the authority are not firmed and decisive in coming hard on those HMs, we will see more of these episodes.
As has been written many times, the minister or PM are not serious in disciplining those HMs. At best just ask them not to do it in a very nice way! Who the hell can be scared?
#42 by madmix on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 12:22 pm
Unfortunately when it comes to Islam, everybody tries to accommodate. When little Napoleons do things in the name of Islam, their bosses dare not do anything, otherwise they will be accused of being un-Islamic or worse, anti-Islam. Even Western governments try very hard to accommodate the religious nuances of their minority Muslims. Unfortunately, this goodwill is not reciprocated. They can insult other religions with impunity and the civilized usually brush this off as to each his own beliefs. A case in England has a Marks and Spensers Muslim cashier calling the bible unclean. Imagine what would happen if a aethist cashier has called the Koran unclean: there would be riots in Bangaladesh.
In Malaysia where Islam is the official religion, the little Napoleons are just implementing the official policy, how to disipline them without being accused of sabotaging the religion.
#43 by jus legitimum on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 12:22 pm
As long as the civil service is racial biased and dominated by one race and controlled by racial and religious bigoted politicians,how the hell would all these insensitive issues against non Malays be got rid of?
#44 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 12:32 pm
That is why I said sometime back that to moderate civil service and ameliorate the mindset, the government should, by force, impose a racial quota system approximating the % of three main races in Malaysia on the civil service.
#45 by Tickler on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 12:41 pm
Thursdays wear batik, Fridays wear traditional costume for prayers (replete with sonkok), that leaves 3 days to `overcome`.
#46 by grace on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 12:58 pm
How do you expec the HMs and teachers tobehave when their boss, Minister of Education, Hishamuddin leads by waving his keris defiantly every year? Leadership by example.
Ha!Ha!Ha!
#47 by Tickler on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 1:01 pm
Ha there`s one. Wednesdays (that`s when the Cabinet meets) will be `kris `days. 2 to go.
#48 by carboncopy on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 1:20 pm
I think the above statement will cut both ways.
Its not about majority or minority imposing of views here.
It is about fundamental rights here. Its fundamental rights to be able to wear proper sporting attire for PE, which includes sports shorts.
It is about fundamental rights to have lions dance group in toto.
And so on.
Apart from this, there are many headmasters/mistress who are shutting down Christian Fellowship in school.
#49 by dranony on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 1:24 pm
When the minority is forced to accept emblems of the identity of the majority, the purported reason is for “uniformity.”
Where then is the uniformity when 85% of the students are asked to follow the practices of 10% minority?
Shouldn’t then the 10% be asked to follow the “uniformity” practiced by the 85%?
Lest anyone is mistaken, I am not saying that the majority practices should always overwhelm that of the minority and force the minority to accept practices of the minority. I am merely trying to demolish the feeble arguments offered by those trying to impose their own values and cultures and practices unto others, using the feeble excuse of “uniformity.”
If that excuse were to be accepted, then reciprocity should be allowed.
#50 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 1:43 pm
“Uniformity” is just excuse, I think same excuse for requiring all male civil servants to wear batik effective tomorrow. What’s so great about “uniformity” ? Is uniformity of mentality good for example? Other times they talk of the virtues of “diversity”. All very selective of when to extol what, dependent on what’s the subterranean agenda. People here speak in fork tonques. It is called “double talk”. No wonder the old saying that the Devil himself will cite scripture for his own hidden cause.
#51 by Toyol on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 1:45 pm
As I have said before, tolerance is a one way street. Thats the BN intepretation…so called Ketuanan Melayu. But I wonder what ‘ketuanan’ means when 65% of our population are on crutches!
On another note, if the minority can impose on the majority, let us all impose ourselve and remove the NEP.
#52 by messy on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 1:58 pm
how can we have a lion dance without a drum?
it is like having a malay wedding without a kompang!!!
how stupid this lady is…how can we expect to respect this racist head mistress when she herself is a racist???
let’s see whether hisammudin will do something bout it…besides it’s election year…
#53 by bennylohstocks on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 2:01 pm
PEEhead is still in the dark…
http://malaysiancartoons.blogspot.com/2008/01/peepartys-slee-pee-head-malaysiakini.html
#54 by Luther on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 2:03 pm
Inspiration tell me nothing wrong with the religion itself,Islamic is ok no big deal,but something wrong with the racialism and racial-religious group in this land causing all this God forsaken trouble..
songkok,doa,keris and tak boleh boleh.Our Malay friend forgotten most of their ancestor are from the Indonesia but now dibumiputrakan and we born in Malaysia but have no right and nothing , so why we watse so much time in arguing all these junks? look at the our Indon Chinese learn from them. so what shall we do , vote all the opposition to the parliament and defy the BN for majority,some MCA and Gerakan or Mic just enough for them to sit in the cabinet,then we see what will happen next!I think we Malaysian will become the strongest in Asean no need to wondering Singapore.
#55 by disapointed86 on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 3:16 pm
sometimes i just wonder how Singapore can take care of their citizens well..no doubt Singapore is a majority Chinese country but..we cannot deny that there are Muslim too in Singapore..Why they dont have problems dealing with those races other than Chinese…and TODAY Singapore is one of the famous Education Hub in the world..Their Universities ranking also way ahead of us…how can we explain that dear Malaysian Citizen….?? Think for yourself the root cause of this ill problems..5 decades is enough!!!
#56 by jus legitimum on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 3:32 pm
We are behind Singapore in almost every respect although the island state is devoid of any natural resources simply because we are ruled by idiots and racial cum religious fanatics.
#57 by cheng on soo on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 3:52 pm
Indonesia Chinese do not need permit for lion dance now! but here one can only hv lion dance minus the drum! Next time one may hv “wantan” mee minus the pork “wantan”! or Fried kway teow minus “chee yao char” or “Bak kut teh” minus the pork rib!
#58 by kcb on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 4:01 pm
“megaman Says:
The problems with people of such mindsets are “This is how we want things to be, because it shows that we are superior.â€
In my opinion, religion is nothing but a disguise or mask for their insecurity and low self-esteem. A lot of so-called “privileged†academics, ulamaks etc (basically, people created by the government policy of preferential treatment towards them) probably have their ego so inflated that they failed to see their own faults or create a state of denial. The easiest way for them to boost their confidence or regain their ego is through enforcing whatever unilateral policies that can showcase their own limited power without regards to whatever harm that this may bring.
“He who learns but does not think, is lost! He who thinks but does not learn is in great danger.†– Confucius.
Seems like we have a lot of the lost and the ignorant running the country.”
Well said, megaman!!!
#59 by malaysiatoday.com on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 4:06 pm
Little nepoleon phenomenon in schools is just a mirror reflection of Malay top leader like Kris brandisher Hisamuddin and Najib.
Examples in LKS blog is a tip of the iceberg. Chinese papers reported a school in Sentul has gender segregation policy like in Senawang.
A female malay doctor in hospital UM refused to touch my brother when she diagnosed him. Touching male patient is “haram” for her as I believed.
#60 by AhPek on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 4:26 pm
‘That is why I said sometime back to moderate civil service and ameliorate the mindset the government should by force impose a racial qouta approximating the % of 3 main races in Malaysiaon civil service.’ jeffrey.
Ain’t you a little bit late in the day to put forward this suggestion.The civil service is part of the ‘handout’ to the Malays.It has become their right to be given a place in it.In fact it is argued and supported by MCA that good Chinese sons will not join the army or maybe the police.But I’ve to ask them if that is the case how come China has the biggest army in the world and also Singapore Armed forces has a large number of their soldiers of ethnic Chinese origin.The truth of the case has to be traced to who are the ones doing the initial shortlisting and then selections …all from 1 particular race.From what I gather from some civil servants(non-Malays) application letters were vetted according to who the applicants were.Non Malay applicants’ letters go into the waste paper baskets!Whether is true or not, such information has come floating out and if you look into the newspaper the story is the Chinese (especially) are not interested in police jobs or teaching jobs.Sure, perhaps the % of Chinese applying to civil servant jobs are small but you certainly cannot generalise that they are not interested for these are positions where one gets remunerations.
#61 by Saint on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 4:40 pm
Islam has never adjusted, it has always requested others to submit.
We have not fully understood this phenomenon as it has been like this since its birth. Eventually, all Muslim States will be terror stricken states like Pakistan or Sudan for even among themselves (Muslims) they do not compromise. We cannot change them. They have to understand the destructive path they are taking, and try to change; if it is possible.
#62 by Luther on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 6:04 pm
to Saint; [deleted] I’m not against Islam but unislamic muslim who abusing the freedom or thier majority and forgotten thier true religion teaching , that’s why we need majority and this was proven in singapore,Chinese in Indonesia,they are pitiful but they know what to do, make all the monies and take out all to somewhere maybe singapore,or hongkong.Riot or anti-chinese,they run and come back later when all their idiot fellow countryman realise the fact that whitout them they can only eat kangkung and ubi. But our minister especially those from umno do not see this, they still shouting in the press release or other places to tell those who can not tolerate thier stupidness to leave the country, tell me what to do?[deleted] .So my friends,vote for opposition do not afraid of disstablisation no such thing we must show them our minority damage control power forget about how many non malay in the cabinet, they will still sit there even they lost the election for they will be nominated as senator.but make sure you keep at least one of them so that can runding and runding for thier friend… ( also make sure no video clip please)
#63 by xxx on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 6:25 pm
This is just plain ridiculous. Just after being in the school for less than 1 month, she’s changing things to her liking. For the drums issue, it shows how racist she is. she banning it just because she doesnt like the sound. for your information, we even had awal muharam “celebration” on friday and the malay kompang was being played AT SCHOOL HOUR, and they expect the students to concentrate?another issue i recently heard from the students are the valentine’s celebration. it seems those who hand in the proposal to sell chocolate got rejected. reason? “saya adalah orang melayu yang beragama islam dan saya tiday menyambut hari seperti ini.” like what harm can they cause for selling chocolate??Wasnt malaysia suppose to be known for being a multiracial country? werent we suppose to be understanding and tolerate? and the teachers are all trying to teach the students MORAL VALUES. if there are more of this kind of pengetua or people leading our country,there’ll definitely be a HUGE CONFLICT
#64 by vincent on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 7:24 pm
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#65 by noextremist on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 8:18 pm
As a student, I personally respect the culture and religion of others (eg. Muslim, Hindu, …). But as a HM who is so educated and high profile, can’t she accept and respect other religion and culture. Malaysia is a multicultural and multiracial country. Even the PM himself is promoting the Muhibbah value to us Malaysians. As an educator, can’t she understand how important it is for the country? Especially in a school, I believe she should be more careful with her words and actions as it will really affect the student.
YB, I plead for your help to stop all these racial disrepect as it will only ruin the mind of the younger generation.
The HM should be given the chance to correct her mistakes and learn to be more open minded as we are already in the 21st century. Also, a rural school is different as compared to a city school.
#66 by mata_kucing on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 9:37 pm
The whole problem stems from the fact that we have an education minister who himself is openly a racist. Al these little Napoleons and bigots who are running the schools are just trying to follow the example of their boss. As for the PM, he might as well be living on Mars. And people still vote for them? Malaysians have to be the most stupid people on earth.
#67 by shaolin on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 10:28 pm
We suggest that we talk less about racial sensitivity
and give the headmistress [deleted]
Not to be the next Little Osama and Napoleon!!
#68 by Jeffrey on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 11:09 pm
There’s an error in my earlier posting 11: 39.58 above, which is regretted.
Based on old rule, the dress code of civil servants, both male and female was batik for twice a month on the 1st and 15th. Effective tomorrow the new ruling is batik for 4 times a month ie on every Thursday.
#69 by philcp on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 2:13 am
Ministers from the major political party like MCA (Make Chinese Angry), MIC (Make Indians Complain) and Gerakan (not really moving party…) should read this blog and do something about it rather than sitting on their cosy chairs. OKT, KSK, LKY, what are you doing? Why are you just helping yourself but let all others non-muslims that put you in parliament suffer? read jeff’s blog, http://www.jeffooi.com/2008/01/jeff_sparrow_ver30.php
even Chinese can be poor too and believe me they are increasing. My home in Cheras just got robbed by Chinese crooks. ppl are getting more desperate because of further marginalization like what is happening in the schools. More and more well educated and affluent non-malays will seek at the slightest chance they get to move out of the country due to the deterioration of Malaysia’s so called “multiracial understanding” system. Hogwash!… If those outside only knows the truth, like Michael Backman…
#70 by ChinNA on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 5:51 am
Cheng OS, you mentioned about Indonesian Chinese.
Now I am asking myself some questions.
Are there still Chinese in Indonesia?
Are there still Chinese in Malaysia?
Are there still Chinese in Thailand?
Can someone help provide some answers for me? Thanks.
I think there are still some Chinese left in Singapore.
#71 by nicklee on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 12:49 pm
Dear,
YB and all fellow bloogers. I have read with interest all of your comments on “latest happening in SMK Bandar Utama 4 Damansara”. I think I do not need to add to your colourful responses. I would like to take action. My question is “what can we do now, to push this issue to the next step”? YB, anyone.
#72 by dranony on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 2:04 pm
nicklee,
Every parent in the school should be educated (via a campaign where every parent phones or SMSes three other parents) that during the “doa” session, every single child/student has a right to pray in the manner prescribed by his or her own religion.
They should be informed that, even:
If their prayers are audible to others, it should be interpreted as freedom to practice their religious right.
If the students, while praying, feel compelled to kneel and kowtow, even prostate themselves, it should be acceptable as their religious right.
If students, while praying, feel compelled to raise their hands in worship to their God, it should be acceptable.
If they feel compelled to chant as they pray, no one should deny them their right.
If some feel compelled to sing praises of worship to their God, they have a right to do so.
If some feel compelled to speak in tongues, no one should deny them of their right.
It should not be long before that particular HM does not wish to lead a “doa” session where students of other religions exercise their religious beliefs at the same time.
#73 by anti-racism on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 2:06 pm
‘With 10% Muslim students, she is now imposing “bacaan doa†during assembly…’ by MB
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As a Muslim HM in a Chinese majority school the HM should respect the Chinese in the school by not doing the “bacaan doa” during assembly time. Its a wrong thing to do.
#74 by Luther on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 3:07 pm
nicklee,we can tell them to stop doing and practising this hishamuddin sure ok now.
after that go vote for opposition and this is the only way to stop all these cracked crab from happening again and again.
opposition will never rule this country and no chinese ar non muslim will too at least for the next 20 years, so don’t worry about nothing.tomorrow will still on unless there is a sutnami.
ChinNa,Indonesia and Thailand have resurgent chinese ,Singapore has imported chinese from china mainland and some from the malaya chinese.Malaysia has non-reckognized bumiputra chinese ( made and originated from malaysia but without sirim logos,and tiptop quality )
#75 by Evenmind on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 6:12 pm
Napoleon oh no , at least he had some brains , these people are completely DUNGUS, MORONS ,IMBERCILES. They are the product of NEP, it wud have been totally different if they were at the post as a result of MERITOCRACY. There is no intellect whatsoever in these people., they act on instinct and envy, I wonder if they know that the world is ROUND.
#76 by Evenmind on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 6:23 pm
When I say intiinct and envy, should wouold probably had made up her mind when she heard the Chinese beating the drums and they sounded like UNTUNG, UNTUNG, UNTUNG.
What a MORON
#77 by Evenmind on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 6:23 pm
When I say intiinct and envy, she wouold probably had made up her mind when she heard the Chinese beating the drums and they sounded like UNTUNG, UNTUNG, UNTUNG.
What a MORON
#78 by Evenmind on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 6:24 pm
And she banned the drums for the LION dance
What a MORON
#79 by goldfish.lee on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 6:29 pm
The Lion Dance is a Chinese celebration all students look forward to watching every year. The same goes for other celebrations for other races. eg. There have been Chinese, Malay and Indian dances performed by students for the Talent Night of the school.
As for the cheerleading squad of the school, it has brought joy and pride to the entire school for years, esp when the team won the 1sr runner-up in year 2006. And every year, there will be hundreds of supporters who cancel their tuition, music classes etc just to support the squad. However, there’s latest news regarding this. that is, someone wrote a letter (as anonymous) to the headmistress stressing the effect her actions have on the school.
She got angry and will only decide later whether or not to ban the squad. I feel that such irrational actions should stop at once in order to prevent ‘ketegangan antara kaum’.
#80 by anti-racism on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 8:53 pm
Ban the drums for lion dance?…
Its like banning the teachers to use their brains to teach!
what a MORON!
#81 by evaangel on Thursday, 17 January 2008 - 10:45 pm
is she still doing the same thing now?
#82 by dranony on Friday, 18 January 2008 - 11:29 am
Perhaps this HM should be transferred to Kelantan or Trengganu?
I’m sure that her actions will be much appreciated there.
After all, she is only interested in implementing rules and regulations of her own values and culture and religion, without ANY regard at all for the values and culture and religion of others. Perhaps packing her off to a place where almost everyone is of the same culture and religion as her, would make everyone happy.
#83 by EricSim on Friday, 18 January 2008 - 11:54 am
YB, why not we publish all this Napolean name to the public. What they are doing is really not acceptable. I suggest they transfer to agama school as they not suit to be leading the modern school and also worry under their command, more Osama will be produce.
#84 by Luther on Friday, 18 January 2008 - 1:26 pm
YB,why don’t suggest those LMN to be recycled to save the environment and the world from orbiting,we must jihad for our right now and how can we let a stupid moron to interfere our cultural practising right we should [deleted] from further propagating in malaysia.These are those who need to be remove and put into ISA detention,for revolting the country stability.Immediately..
#85 by dranony on Friday, 18 January 2008 - 3:13 pm
Luther, calm down…
No matter how strongly you feel about the LMN, there is no need to use the evil ISA against LMN. Otherwise you risk ISA being abused and use against others who do not deserve it.
For all you know, one day the LMN might use ISA against you!
#86 by Luther on Friday, 18 January 2008 - 3:32 pm
If we have 500,000,000 who are willing to be ISA abused,what do yuo think,don’t be afraid but we must sincere and bersatupadu not betraying each other.
minority flooding majority not possible here but awakening possible.
vote for oposition for some changes to see if the ‘right ‘ can be modified or delaying the deminishing process while waiting for a better tomorrow.
#87 by gigants on Friday, 18 January 2008 - 3:50 pm
Rainbow is beautiful because it has different colours, what a pity that there are still a lot of colour blind HMs in our country. These HMs can only see and accept one colours forever, pity and shame on them.
If Chinese drums are noisy then how about some “musics” that play five times a day. We can accept and tolerance each other but these HMs will never ever accept and tolerance each other. Shame on them.
Now I finally understand why our national sports team such as football and badminton can’t win, because they all wear too little. They should wear a lot, hide every part of their body, like ninja then we can win because opponents can’t see our moves. Great!
#88 by goldfish.lee on Friday, 18 January 2008 - 6:26 pm
no evaangel. the vice said that things will continue like the past few years. so all the best to smkbud4ians. =)
#89 by smkbud4.ex-student on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 6:00 pm
o.O
Nice going principle of smkbud4 =D
Having lion dance without drums??
Might as well u drive to school without a car retard =.=”
No Valentine’s day??
Why dont u NOT celebrate during Hari Raya?
Bacaan doa during assembly??
Well, i dont see u going to temple at all =.=”
No cheerleading?
Unless u have ur own team of old-bags cheerleaders
No more wearing shorts during P.E lessons?
Well.. [deleted]
#90 by smkbud4exstudent on Saturday, 19 January 2008 - 9:04 pm
waho.O big news man,,,, god bless chinese student in bud(4),,,, its really so UNFAIR,,,,,,,,
#91 by sosmalaysia on Sunday, 3 February 2008 - 1:18 am
i hope the hm realizes she is born inncocent as a msian n while to die as an honourable msian at the next appointedtime, she needs to leave the legacy that she cannot use islam against other religions nor other religions against islam or else she had better not face her maker. It is not too late for her to reflect, change n repent, put on sackclothes n leave the teaching profession if she cannot reconcile islam vis a vis any other religion. May god be her witness.
#92 by malaysiachinese on Monday, 4 February 2008 - 5:51 pm
The reason i used malaysiachinese as username is i considered myself as “Malaysia Chinese (Chinese live in M’sia)”. I dun feel myself as a Malaysian anymore since i graduated from a local university and started my career. Whenever i read the newspaper pertaining politics, race, religious, there is only 1 feeling….”Frustration”. Hindraf showed a good example of disatisfaction of non-malay living in M’sia. The government on the other hand said will give us “fair” deal. Unless we are naive, otherwise we will say they are STUPID of making this statement. MCA can’t help the chinese, MIC can’t help the indians, UMNO makes us more frustrated. Mr. Lim Kit Siang, u r still the BEST !! I salute u and proud of u. Message to the HM of BU4 Damansara, u r such an idiot with a cracked brain and child mentality. Message to our government, with your style of management and mentality, the Vision 2020 remains as vision forever. Singapore can do so fxxking good even without raw materials (No oil & gas, no mines, nothing), small size of land and very less population.
#93 by sosmalaysia on Wednesday, 6 February 2008 - 1:18 am
dear hm ,
hope u hv reflected n come to yr senses bcos u owe us msia to act fairly n justly in the teaching profession n not get sidetracked into being a religious bigot. Repent while there is still time b4 we, u n i , meet our mker naturally or kiamat if need be. sos our country b4 it is too late