2007 crime index crashed through 200,000 barrier – biggest failure of 4-year Abdullah premiership


The Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi’s five-prong strategy announced yesterday to combat the rising crime index is not impressive at all – too little, too late and too indifferent in lacking seriousness and commitment by Abdullah to make Malaysia safe again for its citizens, visitors, tourists and investors.

Under Abdullah’s premiership, crime has reached endemic dimension with Malaysia gaining an international notoriety as a country unsafe for her citizens, visitors, tourists and investors.

When he became Prime Minister on Oct. 31, 2003, Abdullah pledged that one of his top priorities would be to reduce crime to restore to Malaysians their fundamental right to be free from crime and the fear of crime, whether in the streets, public places or the privacy of their homes.

Today, Malaysians feel even more unsafe from crime than when he became Prime Minister.

Abdullah had raised great hopes about his commitment to create an efficient, incorruptible, professional and world-class police service to declare an all-out war against crime when he set up the Royal Police Commission which came out with 125 recommendations, the most important of which was the proposal for an Independent Police Complaints and Misconduct Commission (IPCMC).

All such high hopes of Malaysians for a world-class professional police service to keep crime index low to make the country safe for the people, visitors and foreign investors have been dashed to the ground in the past four years.

All these high hopes have come to nought. The proposal of an effective IPCMC has been killed, replaced with a clawless and toothless Special Complaints Commission proposal.

Under Abdullah’s premiership, the police fought a losing war against the rising crime index, which had worsened from 156,315 cases in 2003 to 224,298 cases in 2007 – a sharp rise of some 45% in the past four years.

The crime index crashed through the 200,000 barrier for the first time in nation’s history with rape more than doubled from a daily average of four women in 2003 to 8.5 women last year.
This means that under Abdullah as Prime Minister, women are even more unsafe from the crime of rape, with the risk of rape more than doubled than when Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad handed power over to him four years ago.

Abdullah’s multi-pronged anti-crime strategy announced yesterday has fallen like a damp squid as nobody believes that it will have any effect to make Malaysia at least as safe for personal safety and property security when he became Prime Minister four years ago.

When will Abdullah wake up to realize and admit that crime in Malaysia has become endemic under his premiership, and that the prevalent feeling of citizens, visitors, tourists and investors that they have lost the sense of personal safety and property security is one of the greatest failures of his premiership?

  1. #1 by Libra2 on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:31 pm

    Not only crime but also religious extremism, rulings, suppression and intimidation of non-Muslims under Abdullah’s premiership far supersedes those under Mahathir.
    He has let his people down, yet does not realize that.

  2. #2 by k1980 on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:34 pm

    In some countries like China, the minister of internal security would have been executed for gross dereliction of duty

  3. #3 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:41 pm

    Hey that`s no surprise. No wonder the KLSE is going up too. Just as corruption is good for the GDP. [sarcasm intended]

  4. #4 by a-malaysian on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:42 pm

    testing, testing, cannot submit post?

  5. #5 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:42 pm

    the minister of internal security would have been executed for gross dereliction of duty – k1980

    Yeah, and the family would have to pay for the bullet he bites.

  6. #6 by dawsheng on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:42 pm

    Maybe the pay increase for the police force is not enough?

  7. #7 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:44 pm

    `..women are even more unsafe from the crime of rape, with the risk of rape more than doubled than when Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad handed power over to him..`

    Well he`s busy raping the country`s fabric, so the symptoms manifest.

  8. #8 by dawsheng on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:46 pm

    Where is Mahathir? he is unusually quiet recently.

  9. #9 by a-malaysian on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:46 pm

    As always, Talking in his sleep.

    This blog and everywhere in cyberspace had been telling him about the crime increase since he took office, instead they claim that all blogs and online news are spreading lies.

    50 years is ENOUGH
    Vote For A Change
    Vote For Any Opposition
    Give Them A Chance To Change For A Better Malaysia
    Remember bn Is A Useless Grouping Of Self Serving, Corrupt, Dictator, Power Crazy, Racist, Kris waving, etc, etc type of parties.

  10. #10 by a-malaysian on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:48 pm

    YB Kit,

    Have you turn off certain tags to be used?. If I bold certain words, I could not make the post.

  11. #11 by lakshy on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:50 pm

    Home minister and internal security minister is at fault. So replace him!

  12. #12 by lakshy on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:53 pm

    Chua Soi Lek had the decency to resign…wonder whether aab will be decent enough to follow suit?

    Nahhh ….I dont think so….after all who put the crooks in as AG’s IGP’s and as Judges?

    If the top is corrupt, what do you expect down the hierarchy? And if the top cops are in business with the crime syndicates, what hope do we have?

    We rakyat have to make the change.

  13. #13 by brammma14 on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 4:53 pm

    Crime rates are dangerously high all over Malaysia especially JB and Klang Valley. So many unresolved cases. Worrying time for Malaysians

  14. #14 by wizzerd on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:09 pm

    Another wayang by AAB, part of the GE strategy to win over the hearts of the people. Just too little too late..installing CCTV of over the city..I thought that idea was mooted 2 years ago. What about IPCMC?
    This is not going to fool the rakyat hopefully

  15. #15 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:09 pm

    Malaysian PM Badawi playing hide and seek over Indian workers’, priests’ ban? Come clean, PM.

    http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEH20080108121540&Title=Top+Stories&Topic=-519&

  16. #16 by smeagroo on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:10 pm

    and dumbo said crime index soared bcos other minor petty cases also grouped into it together. Is he daft or he thinks we are daft?

  17. #17 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:12 pm

    Badawi dances where angels fear to tread:

    New Delhi, Jan 9 (IANS) The Indian government has the right to play a role when Indian communities abroad are in trouble while at the same time respecting the sentiments of the host country’s government, according to former UN under-secretary general and author Shashi Tharoor.

    “The government can do a lot of things (when Indians abroad are in trouble) but not necessarily in full public view. The sentiments of the host country’s government should be kept in mind while dealing with such situations,” Tharoor said at a press conference here Tuesday.

    Tharoor’s comments came in the wake of the recent incidents in Malaysia where ethnic Indians, a minority group in that Southeast Asian nation, held protest marches amid allegations that they were being discriminated against by the government.
    http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=local&newsid=63294

  18. #18 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:13 pm

    Is he daft or he thinks we are daft? – smeagroo

    The first one of cors, but I prefer the word `idiot`.

  19. #19 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:17 pm

    The latest agreement would also result in DAP contesting in north area of the island in predominantly Chinese-dominated seats while leaving PKR and PAS to concentrate on the Malay-majority seats in the south west of the island.

    The plan would also naturally mean that DAP would be going to battle against MCA and Gerakan while the PKR/PAS combination will take on Umno.
    http://dinmerican.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/opposition-plans-straight-fights-in-penang-good-news-and-more-to-come/

  20. #20 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:19 pm

    For the past nine years, residents in Ampang, Selangor, have been asking for their Umno state assemblyperson to be replaced.
    http://wengsan.blogspot.com/2008/01/mad-at-yb-mad-enough-is-enough.html

  21. #21 by melurian on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:22 pm

    instead of reducing “actual” crime rate, aab aka kementrian dalam negeri will send memo to all police to shoo (not shoot, i don want to be like mahathir) away victims from making police report. what an effective way to reduce crime rate!!!

    you cannot blame aab, he failed statistic. he thinks crime is like inflation and economics, where every year increase 4%. just because this year (and last year) oil price hike, the rate increase dramatically …

  22. #22 by patriotic1994 on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:28 pm

    Hey, also include illegal assembly by peaceful protesters. It is a “crime” too.

  23. #23 by gofortruth on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:29 pm

    “Abdullah’s multi-pronged anti-crime strategy announced yesterday has fallen like a damp squid “- LKS
    —————–
    Honestly how can any strategy be ever effective if the enforcing police are themselve corrupted or highly corruptible???? We are already hearing alledged cases of them being partners in crimes with the criminals.

    All well meaning measures will only become another jalan for the corrupted police to make quick “side income” by playing “catch & let go”.

    Pak lah is only wasting our hard earned money to instal CCTVs. He should take full measure to clean up the police force 1st if the country wants to see the crime index to come down. What happens to IPCMC??? This should be PM’s top most priority as a 1st step to beat crime, don’t you think so?

  24. #24 by pragalathkumar on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:32 pm

    Mr Abdullah Badawi has suddenly woken up in the spate of high crime rate. I sincerely hope he would not doze off again.

    As long as the IPCMC does not materialise, the crime rate would continue to rise in tandem with the increase of essential produces in the country.

  25. #25 by segar steve on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:38 pm

    Bodowi was talking while sleeping everything can be done zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.when he woke up he said i dont know anything. Do we need this man our PM. Better go back to your sleep zzzzzzzzzzzz.

  26. #26 by disapointed86 on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:44 pm

    oh my god! anyone can paste this report at his door? i think he didnt know…still in his fantasy dream….i dont know until when AAB tenure will last…but he’s no longer young…come on resign…spend time with ur newly wed wife…. he is just a NOMINAL MEMBER of a COMPANY(GOV)…only got the title PM..but only knows to sleep…wake up AAB…wake up…stop sleeping…

  27. #27 by mata_kucing on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 5:50 pm

    The IGP and his senior officers are too busy engrossed in making multi-million deals that they have little time for combating crimes. Look at the latest being the halicopters for hire deal for the police which involved a senior police officer, reportedly worth RM400 millions. I thought government officers are not allowed to involved in business especially when it involves their own department?

  28. #28 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 6:02 pm

    Remember this when Zam tried to `cover up` crime coverage by the media:

    Zam Calls For Balanced Reporting On Crime

    Information Minister Datuk Seri Zainuddin Maidin called on the media to provide balanced reporting on crime and not to be inclined towards highlighting anyweakness of the police solely to garner profits.

    He said the media should help to enhance understanding among the people on the importance of the police force in maintaining peace and security in the country.

    “In the presentation of crime news, we should not be driven by the intention to raise viewership and market ratings by publishing gory pictures,” he told reporters after launching a video clip on “PDRM Terbilang Di Dunia” (Royal Malaysia Police of World Renown) at Angkasapuri, here.

    The five-minute clip will be telecast from tonight to March 23 at 8.30 pm in the Galeri Perdana slot over RTM1. It was produced in conjunction with the 200th Police Day on March 25.
    http://www.kempen.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=779&Itemid=109&lang=english

  29. #29 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 6:05 pm

    The million dollar question: Bedol was on national radio, wrote letters and was even labeled ‘Bao Qing Tien’ to fish for votes. So, will Bedol cry on national TV this time (besides maybe lying in an interview again claiming that ‘my son never get projects)?

  30. #30 by justice_fighter on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 6:06 pm

    IPCMC is mission impossible as long as the country is ruled by the corrupt UMNOputras.

    The police force is only meant to protect the corrupt top officials. Your safety? You better pray god!!

  31. #31 by jonwonmy on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 6:17 pm

    Governance vs Economy vs Crime rate

    Gone are the days when you can enjoy ‘chap fan’ for RM3 and a herbal drink for RM1. My favorite Rojak is now selling at RM4 when it was sold for RM3 in the past. Nasi lemak is no longer RM1 but RM1.50. The prices have escalated especially since the beginning of the new year. You see, prices have gone up as high as 50%, especially so during AAB’s tenure. People’s wealth are not growing in tandem with the rosy economy which the government has been painting. High exports, record KLSE, increased FDIs, etc are all make believe stories for the government’s propaganda to instill and boost confidence so that they can remain in power and abuse their authorities to the serious extent of corruption. The lower or middle income group is hurting by the soaring prices. To make up for one’s shortfall, one goes to the extent of committing a crime. If you are a lady walking alone in a lonely stretch of road, its a high chance you will be snatched, robbed or even raped because the criminal knows he is unlikely caught. If only our media is free to published the daily crime rates i.e. how many criminal reports today, this week, this month, this year, etc, then we should be able to see the full picture of the crime statistics i.e. how the crime index have been increasing. What I am saying is that if the economy is really good such that everyone is enjoying their own wealth and affording their lifestyles, then crime rate should naturally be low. If the government have been effective in managing its various ministries, unplug all the loopholes and eradicate corruption totally, put their utmost to boost the economy to a positive and healthy upswing then crime rate should return to its low. The leadership has been ineffective so far. As long as the leadership and the government remains in power, we will all live to cope with rising prices and high crime rates.

  32. #32 by sheriff singh on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 6:17 pm

    Nero “fiddled while Rome burned”.

    Pak Lah slept while robbers plundered.

  33. #33 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 6:19 pm

    Pak Lah must be a new poker game.

  34. #34 by madmix on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 6:21 pm

    Our police is world class when it comes to escorting VIPs and cracking down on political dissidents. But they are just plain lazy when it comes to crime fighting. Most policemen rather spend the day doing nothing than doing police work.

  35. #35 by mendela on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 6:37 pm

    Getting rid of the many Indonesian illegal immigrants must be the top priority for the police force!

    But of late, these illegal immigrants have become another main source of income for our police…

    They have learnt the trick of paying kopio money to make them off the hooks!

    Malaysia boleh!

  36. #36 by mendela on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 6:41 pm

    How many illegal immigrants in Malaysia now?

    Some say at least 2 Millions. Some say it is at least 3 Millions!

    Malaysia is sure a charity country.

  37. #37 by merdeka on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 6:48 pm

    YB Lim,

    PLEASE PRINT THIS ARTICLE AND DISTRIBUTE TO THOSE IN RURAL AREAS WITH NO INTERNET ACCESS !!!!! THEY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS !!!!!!!

  38. #38 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 7:05 pm

    If you have made a donation to the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) movement, the police may be knocking on your door soon.
    http://malaysiakini.com/news/76880

  39. #39 by HJ Angus on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 7:31 pm

    The failure to get the IPCMC and the resultant increase in the crime rate shows that the unholy alliance of criminals, the police and politicians is still intact.

    So far the authorities have only provided a less than convincing story as to why the IPCMC cannot work.

    At first I thought the special contract given to the IGP was conditional to getting the IPCMC done but it looks as if the criminal elements are too strongly entrenched and the PM is too weak to play a much stronger hand.

  40. #40 by bystander on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 8:07 pm

    How can anything improved when the leader is sleeping on the job and enjoying with new wife. PM, you are fired.

  41. #41 by chisinau on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 8:48 pm

    Just how many Top Failures he has created? Seems like there more to come.

  42. #42 by DarkHorse on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 8:49 pm

    “Information Minister Datuk Seri Zainuddin Maidin called on the media to provide balanced reporting on crime and not to be inclined towards highlighting anyweakness of the police solely to garner profits.”

    Balanced reporting on crime?? Balance in reporting is on the issues mostly political.

    When Britney Spears showed she was not wearing her underwear, what is there to balance that with? Former Minister of Health in his??

  43. #43 by fm2 on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 9:09 pm

    malaysia is getting more unsafe for us to stay.

    If anyone of u happen to go SEDAYA College, just drive there n go pass those shop around there. u’ll notice since when that area become a ‘BLACK’ place.

    i was told there has been a lot of rape case happen, but that college was cover it up. Those ‘Black’ just stay at the side of the school, molast, rape, rob is very very common. Even our’s country ‘super-dog’ PDRM, they also scare of these ‘BLACK’. but they all love porn.

    proper things dun want to do, do useless things. wasting money.

  44. #44 by negarawan on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 9:33 pm

    Why would a criminal himself and his gang of thugs be concerned with the crime index?

  45. #45 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 9:52 pm

    “The plan would also naturally mean that DAP would be going to battle against MCA and Gerakan while the PKR/PAS combination will take on Umno.”

    This is the only electoral strategy any loose coalition of opposition parties could follow. The reason why it failed the last time was apparently due to the failure of leadership at the center.

    Party leaders would have to balance narrow political self interests of both parties and individuals against the broader interest of the coalition. Easily said than done. But could they do it this time round?

    This is the Achilles’ heel.

  46. #46 by EARNEST on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 9:54 pm

  47. #47 by pohwatchdog on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 10:06 pm

    Mr. Lim,

    Don’t critizeonly, give constuctive solution to overcome crime in our country. What we need is a good, constructive and better solution from BN to tackle crime in Malaysia? No doubt, various economic problems, social problems, urban poor and poor police effectives contribute to our crime rate. Take serious action and combat the crime rate

  48. #48 by Jong on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 10:10 pm

    Congrats YB Lim, a “united front” is the way to go. Let’s send the tremors and kick the BN out, make 2008 a year of change for the better!

    To PM Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, you have been a great disappointment. It’s too late to shape up, just ship off and out!

  49. #49 by hotsync on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 10:53 pm

    Sad case, another kid was kidnapped today…hope that she will not turn up in a sporting bag :(

    I hope the PDRM will catch the culprit as fast as they can catch and prosecute DVD peddlers *sign*

  50. #50 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 11:09 pm

    BN are traitors and a threat to the Nation.

  51. #51 by Tickler on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 11:11 pm

    Phew…the cops are very busy:

    The Commercial Crime Investigation Department (CCID) has sent letters to individuals summoning them to give statements at the Bukit Aman police headquarters over a possible offence of funding a terrorist organisation.

    The letter stated that the police are investigating this offence under Section 130N of the Penal Code – the funding of terrorist activities.

    If found guilty, the person can be punished with death (if the terrorist act results in death), imprisonment for a term of not less than seven years but not exceeding 30 years and a fine.

    “The police believe that you can provide a statement about funds given to Hindraf Enterprise,” read the letter signed by investigating officer ASP Rozeni Ismail.
    http://markwilliamtan.blogspot.com/2008/01/weird-and-worrying-stuff.html

  52. #52 by waterfrontcoolie on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 11:22 pm

    YB., can I suggest that you set up a blog where all failed mega project can be put in videos for the whole nation to see. we can start off with projects in town areas, check the costs of the contracts and then get people who stay nearby to put up videos for the raayat to assess them. I bet you, all the projects are over-priced and also not completed according to the terms of the contracts. China had just annouced that the 1,200km rail track from Beijing to Shanghai is rmb100 billion [ some rm50 billion] capable of averaging 240 kmph. [ proposed time 5 hours]. What is our cost of the so-called double-tracking? and capable of what speed? we like to join the Western chorus that the Communists are corrupted but compare to our ‘democratically elected leaders’, where do we stand? Open ‘swindling practices and out-right corruptions are condoned and defended. To an extent some Bumis may accept the belief that it is okay for a Bumi to cheat rather than allow a non-bumi to do so. I don’t think the Chinese actually think along such line. So even if Umno had allowed MCA to share the cake at PKFZ, the Chinese are not going to celebrate; maybe Sami can convince MIC and its supporters to prevail over its community [ at least up to now]. I believe the Middle-class Bumis have alot of work to do before the GE takes off. It gonna be a hard sell, knowing the tactics BN would use, be it fair or unfair [ well mostly unfair, for sure]. The 1st move at Penang sounds promising. As I have noted, be practical! Know your strength and weakness and don’t be greedy!! Then, we may be able to hear some voices of reason in the coming Parliamentary debates that make Malaysians proud.

  53. #53 by k1980 on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 11:25 pm

    Why you looking at me like that? It’s not my fault. I only got a degree in islamic studies, not crime prevention!

    http://www.nst.com.my/Wednesday/Frontpage/2127632/insidepix1

  54. #54 by undergrad2 on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 11:26 pm

    “The letter stated that the police are investigating this offence under Section 130N of the Penal Code – the funding of terrorist activities.

    Can somebody cut and paste Sec. 130N Penal Code. Thanks.

  55. #55 by Saint on Wednesday, 9 January 2008 - 11:26 pm

    Increase in crime is due to many reasons but some of the main factors are

    1. lack of professionalism by the police – culprits are not caught
    2. Too many illegal immigrants – difficult to track them coming in and going out
    3. Poverty, lack of employment opportunities – companies prefer immigrants
    4. Inflation

    These are due to pure misgovernment of the country by BN

  56. #56 by Colonel on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 12:28 am

    “At present, DAP has four parliamentary seats – Bagan, Bukit Mertajam, Tanjong and Bukit Gelugor – and one state seat, Sungai Puyu in Penang. PKR has one parliamentary seat in Permatang Pauh. PAS meanwhile won the Permatang Pasir state seat.”

    Penangites have always believed in the efficacy of strategic voting i.e. vote for the DAP for Parliament, and MCA for the state. What has happened since that calls for a change in the way they vote?

  57. #57 by pwcheng on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 12:58 am

    It is difficult to describe what type of police force we have, but using a softer language I can safely say they are a bunch of incompetent, arrogant, discourteous and corrupted UMNO slaves who has no shame in getting paid by the rakyat but only wants to serve an equally corrupted master who protects them in exchange for their protection, a twinning to serve their own interests at the expense of the rakyat, where we cant walk safely out of the house or even within the house.

    Incidentally how many of you know that in your police reports and in their investigation reports, there is an exclusive clause for them exempting them from any responsibilities and which reads “SALINAN DIAKUI SAHTIDAK BOLEH DIGUNAKAN DIMAKAMAH”.hence because of their long history of shoddy works, they are now benefiting from it by absolving themselves from all responsibilities in all their investigation works. In this bodohland it always pays to be mediocre.
    I hope somebody with legal backgrounds can comment on this, whether such undertakings are within the confine of our constitution, a Body that is empowered to investigate now becomes a “non-entity” and bears no responsibilities.
    Anybody who follows the Mongolian girl murder trial will know how incompetent they are.

  58. #58 by KS R on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 1:06 am

    Hi Uncle

    In Singapore, Public will request assistance and inform any criminal issue to the Singapore Police

    Malaysia, most of the Public not dare to approach Malaysian Police because they are not friendly and Frighten they will thrown into lock up or framed.

    Now it looks the busy to arrest the Hindraf support rather going after the criminals/corruptions they only approved to arrest the lower class people regardless Indian / Chinese and Malay.

    Top people they not dare to touch because they also involved in corruption. Unless new Goverment take over in Malaysia. EVERY RACE should open their eye and mind and to see what is happening

  59. #59 by lakshy on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 3:01 am

    If there are no links to terrorism how can those who gave funds be charged for funding a terrorist organisation?

    This sounds more like a threat to prevent people giving funds to them.

  60. #60 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 4:03 am

    “f there are no links to terrorism how can those who gave funds be charged for funding a terrorist organisation?”

    The government is merely building up its case against the hindraf 5 detained under the Internal Security Act should they decide to charge them. They are not required to in ISA cases.

    How could they explain why they have not investigated hindraf’s links to terrorism if they in fact believed there were links? They would have to come up with some kind of links to LTTE.

    Fishing expedition. Good luck to them!

  61. #61 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 5:05 am

    lakshy,

    “Funding” is just one aspect of alleged terrorist activity. If you incite, espouse terrorist activity or persuade others to support terrorist activity, logically you should come within the ambit or scope of the legislation meant to combat terrorism.

  62. #62 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 5:08 am

    LTTE and PLO are deemed terrorist organizations by the U.S. and persons having any link to such organizations are inadmissible as far as entry to the U.S. is concerned.

  63. #63 by somaris on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 5:14 am

    to all penang PROPLE.
    VOTE DAP,PKR.go for a change.
    VOTE MCA ,GERAKAN is for UMNO.
    MAKE A CHANGE U LOSS NOTHING, lets us give DAP to run s penang..
    FOR OUR CHILDREN FUTURE>
    LETS ALL HELP DAP,PKR.

  64. #64 by malaysiatoday.com on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 5:30 am

    Abdullah is a liability, no longer an asset to Malaysia.

    The only achievement is public services delivery improve a bit, other major issues like crime, corruption, religious tolerance, wealth distribution, employement rate, racial unity, press freedom etc. are worsen then before.

  65. #65 by DarkHorse on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 6:18 am

    Incidentally how many of you know that in your police reports and in their investigation reports, there is an exclusive clause for them exempting them from any responsibilities and which reads “SALINAN DIAKUI SAHTIDAK BOLEH DIGUNAKAN DIMAKAMAH”.” pwcheng

    Legally speaking, the Police Report that you lodge is admissible in court not as proof of its contents but as proof that such a report was made on a certain date and a certain place and by the person named therein. So in that sense the notification that “It is not to be used in court” is right because it is not evidence, it proves nothing more than the fact that a report was made. It is still useful say, if the date of the report should become an issue. It is then allowed into evidence for that limited purpose.

    In short it is not evidence. I am talking criminal proceedings. Different considerations apply in the case of civil proceedings.

    The same applies to witness statements made to the police. It is relevant to show inconsistency should the maker when called to give evidence gives a different version – one to the police before trial and one in court.

    Hope that helps.

  66. #66 by Tickler on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 7:33 am

    Superman can fly one oh:

    Conflict of interest alleged over police choppers
    Syed Jaymal Zahiid | Jan 8, 08 5:43pm
    Inspector-General of Police Musa Hassan and a member of the powerful Police Force Commission (SPP), Othman Talib, have been implicated in allegations of power abuse involving a company linked to the latter.
    Lucrative deal: RM400m profit
    Gov’t mum when asked in Parliament
    http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/76832

  67. #67 by Colonel on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 7:50 am

    Lots of commission to be made over purchase of expensive military equipment. Are you saying they also serve on the board of directors of the company that makes the purchase?

    They always use intermediaries. Nothing that lifting the corporate veil could not reveal.

  68. #68 by Tickler on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 7:59 am

    Yup.

  69. #69 by dawsheng on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 8:04 am

    “Abdullah is a liability, no longer an asset to Malaysia.”

    Abdullah has never been an asset and he has always been a liability, It was Malaysians who has invested in the wrong chip.

  70. #70 by malaysiatoday.com on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 8:06 am

    I met my junior who was a Leftenen Kol for a project bidding. He was very frank to me that the only way I can get the Mindef business is through a bumi intermediary. He will arrange for everything.

    I refused to bid albeit with 100% success rate because I may only get 20% of actual contract value. These Malays wanted to get free lunch for doing nothing.

  71. #71 by Colonel on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 8:07 am

  72. #72 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 8:17 am

    The police report by the complainant is the basis by which police generally launch investigation. (There are cases where they launch and there is basis to launch even without a report as in Chua Soi Lek’s case or ACA’s cases).

    So generally what DarkHorse said is true that the complainant’s report is not substantive evidence admissible in court to prove the contents alleged in it.

    The prosecution will still have to prove the contents of what complainant alleges in report is beyond reasonable doubt true. I assume that this would apply to police reports made by parties after accident for accident cases (civil) as well as criminal (for driving with gross reckless negligence) as well.

    Then in such accident cases, the police itself may file a report. It is not first information report that we’re talking about so may be it is not relevant. However if in such acident cases the police reports the accident happened this way or that way, it would not by itself be admissible because he was not there to observe the facts so much of it is inadmissible for hearsay.

    However if he appends a sketch plan that he draws up after visit to accident site to show where and how the accident took place based on debris of broken lights or photographs of the angle of impact, all these would be evidence for admission in court.

    But talking of police report made by complainant (as in first information report) it may excptionally be admissible in court as substantive evidence for limited purposes like for example:-

    · To show the fact that it was made relevant to state of mind and motive of its maker as in Baginda/Mongolian model’s case;

    · To corroborate or contradict the subsequent testimony of the maker of report in court For example the complainant making a report of rape said that the alleged offender was an old friend in the report and subsequently testifies that she does not know him or has just met him, or that the incidence happened in her house (in the report) whereas in open testimony in court otherwise in some bush in the park.

    That is to contradict maker of report.

    To corroborate in the opposite case, the report by her may be admissible to show that the implication and inference that the allegations against the accused is not an afterthought on the part of the complainant/victim but was contemporaneous to the incident of the offence.

  73. #73 by chtee on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 9:34 am

    we want changes!!!!

  74. #74 by cheng on soo on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 9:57 am

    With pdrm busy searching for DVD on CSL, playing water gun on peaceful protestors, road block here n there for dont know what, “supervising” on GE, The thieves, robbers, n other bad hats may break this record in 2008.
    DVD is not the only way to record CSL “wayang”, can record on video tapes, computer hard disks (that disk may be outside Msia), thumb drives, emails (can be in emails memory of someone outside Msia), upload in you tube,and other websites. So pdrm must work harder to eradicate this CSL “wayang” ! Otherwise pdrm still get grade “F” for this!

  75. #75 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 10:03 am

    My God Jeffrey! You’re better than many law students in their third year of their law degree. Why third year?? The law of evidence is only offered in the final year because it is tough to understand and master!

    In short, it depends on how you use the information. If it infringes on the common law rule against hearsay then it is not admissible in court.

  76. #76 by Bigjoe on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 10:12 am

    This whole issue with crime is symptomatic of Badawi administration – earlier promises and effort all comes back to zero or worst. It applies to corruption, economics, religion, media freedom, individual rights etc.

    On corruption, we can see from the likes of Najib, Mat Deros, PKFZ etc, the problems we thought was not going to happen again after Dr. M is all coming out again, in more sophisticated form but its the same old story.

    In economics, we are back to mega projects either on PFI (i.e., borrowed) or Petronas money. PKFZ, Monsoon Cup, etc. His biggest gamble the corridors will turn into big problems if the economy stalls which is held up by high commodity prices.

    In education, more spending without meritocratic changes will just get us away from fewer disaster but persistant unemployed graduates will remain and worsen in the next downturn.

    On religion, he keeps turning away from promise moderation only to resort to it when his popularity and power in UMNO is insecured. His non-secular, non-theocratic state nonsense is a recipe for disaster.

    Badawi and his SIL formula for power are just delaying bills and problems that will come back to roost eventually.

  77. #77 by Taikor on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 10:19 am

    While the people are shouting in the web, such as this one, against rising crime rates in this country, the propaganda machine is putting a spin to this charge: More crimes last year, but fewer violent ones – The Star

  78. #78 by KanNinNeh on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 10:29 am

    MCA is more well-known as “Money Corruptible Association” and always behaves like “Bohsia” for UMNO to play around with !

  79. #79 by Cinapek on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 10:48 am

    I read in the mainstream media this morning the details of the crime index. The barefaced lies and spin reported therein filled me with revulsion. Yesterday I had read AAB’s comments that the crime index have gone up in 2007 is because of a different reporting base. He claims the serious crimes has actually gone down. However, looking at the table reported in the press today:

    1) In 2006 there were 2454 attempted murder cases. In 2007 there were none. None? Hard to believe.

    2) Rape went up by 35% or 723 cases

    3) Armed gang robbery went up by 15% or 10 cases

    4) Ganged robbery without firearms went up a whopping 160% or 4344 cases. Is robbery with parangs less lethal than guns?

    5) Armed robbery went down by 46 cases or 18%. The only ray of sunshine but again maybe it is because it is easier to rob with parangs

    6) Robbery went down 11%. Maybe due to the same reason above.

    7) Assault went up 16% or 963 cases

    8) Snatch thefts and burglaries, which have the same traumatic effects on victims and maybe the same fatal consequences, went up by 4780 cases or 12%.

    Looking at the above statistics provided by the PDRM, it must be the height of irresponsibility of the PM/ Internal Security Minister and the Acting CID Director to claim that serious crimes had actually gone down. It is one thing to lie but to tell such a bareface lie in the face of such overwhelming evidence indicates that these people are clearly pathological liars without a shred of concience or shame. And the terrifying part is as long as they suffer from such denials, their heads will be buried in the sand and the problem can only get worse. But the most disgusting part of it all is the mainstream media which conspires with the Govt to lie to the people by helping them spin the stories that everything is fine when it is not. I do not know how they can wake up each morning and look at themselves in the mirror. I suppose they will only face the full horror of their actions when one day it is one of their loved ones who is robbed, raped or murdered.

  80. #80 by Godfather on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 10:49 am

    Rising crime is but one of the subsets of Badawi’s biggest failure in the past 4 years – his failure to walk the talk. Cakap tak serupa bikin. As Mamak Zam pointed out to Al Jazeera television during the Bersih march, “Malaysia has an erection (sic) every 5 years”. We have to make sure that that we do not repeat our mistake for the next “erection”.

  81. #81 by Godfather on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 10:50 am

    Cinapek: You must not forget that Badawi failed statistics and that is why he had to do religious studies instead of economics.

  82. #82 by necromancer4good on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 10:59 am

    We need draconian law to root out these criminals. Death for possession of illegal guns, death for kidnappers, death for rapist. If not at least castration for these monsters
    I’m convinced that our police force is better but the moral value of our society is deteriorating.
    DAP, what is your plan if elected? Uncle Lim you must convince us that you can do better (at least a blue print of your plan)

  83. #83 by Cinapek on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:00 am

    Godfather: These are not statistics. They are grade school arthmetic. What we are seeing here is the lack of ability to think through a process. Those advising him are feeding him rubbish and he regurgitates them without thinking. And those feeding him rubbish knows his weakness and deliberately feeds him garbage.

    I was told by someone who once worked with LKY that if you try to feed him any wrong info, you will get your butt chewed off right and proper. But sigh, I don’t expect such a culture of excellence to exist in AAB’s administration with the likes of Zam, Nazri, Samy and other HP6 Cabinet members, chosen more for their belligerence rather than their brains.

  84. #84 by k1980 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:06 am

    Only a goddamned fool with a vacuum between his 2 big ears will deliberately eat the garbage being deliberately fed to him. Try feeding garbage to any dog and see if it will eat it

  85. #85 by geeclau on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:19 am

    I would like to suggest to Lim Kit Siang that a better way to combat our corruption problems is to set up ICMC that has the same investigation and prosecution powers as IPCMC but over all public and private sectors. Hence, PDRM will have no excuses against IPCMC. To do this, we can restructure BPR to ICMC. Remember, Hong Kong ICAC was mainly set up to combat the then much corrupted HK Police Force yet it is given the responsibilities and powers over all people. We must give all public servants a fair chance to perform and to be prosecuted for any misconducts! If we only set up IPCMC, how do we expect our police force to carry out their investigations impartially especially if the suspects are public servants from other sector that cannot be touched by IPCMC!

  86. #86 by xpainxgain on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:20 am

    Some figure of crime index also contributed by our politicians, for instance Altantunya’s case.

  87. #87 by Godfather on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:21 am

    Cinapek:

    I can also tell you that first year statistics at the University of Malaya is nothing more than elementary maths. You’re right about LKY. The same applied to Mahathir. If you don’t have the facts at your fingertips, God help you when you deal with these men. With Badawi, the more facts you have at your fingertips, the worse will be the reaction of Big Ears. A little bit of data fed to Badawi causes an instant overload. It amazes me that someone with so little brainpower and so little charisma can be elected to run a country that is on the brink of either greatness or about to slide down the slippery slope to oblivion.

  88. #88 by Godfather on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:29 am

    The 4th floor boys know that Big Ears is a walking disaster, so they try to shield him as much as possible from the public eye. They know he doesn’t know what he is talking about, and he certainly cannot remember what he had committed to previously on a particular matter. Hence the 4th floor boys dictate the functions he can attend, and also dictate the type of press conferences he can attend. They write his speeches, they give him all the cue cards at press conferences (and still he fumbles from time to time).

    Mahathir was furious with this, and he kept referring to the “power behind the throne”. Alas, with the announcement of certain mega projects, it is almost certain that some accomodation has been reached between Mahathir and the 4th floor boys.

  89. #89 by Godfather on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:38 am

    This is what happens when there is no meritocracy from the top downwards. A failed foreign exchange dealer that cost the country billions can become Finance Minister II. A third class honours law graduate from University Malaya (the equivalent of a general degree) can become Attorney General. A religious studies graduate can become Finance Minister, Internal Security Minister and Home Affairs Minister – all concurrently. A mamak with poor English can become Information Minister.

    Sad indictment of Bolehland. Not only have our ministers not earned our respect, they have earned our ridicule and scorn.

  90. #90 by Tickler on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:42 am

    OT but important, and as the link is faulty I reproduce in full:

    Confront Malaysia

    The Pioneer Edit Desk (Jan. 9, 2008)

    The Government of Malaysia is rapidly taking its anti-Indian and anti-India bias — which is really official policy to stamp out Hindu culture, faith and identity from that Muslim majority country — to absurd limits. On Tuesday, the Malaysian Government has made public its offensive policy of imposing a ban on Indian workers, including temple priests. It is believed that the work permits of Indians who are working in Malaysia will not be renewed. A ban has also been imposed on employing “non-Malaysian” in airports. Curiously, this obnoxious decision was taken on December 18, but kept under wraps — possibly because the Malaysian Government did not want to derail Defence Minister AK Antony’s visit to Kuala Lumpur from which Malaysians stand to gain by way of India training their security forces. It stands to reason why Mr Antony’s interlocutors in Kuala Lumpur should have slyly kept quiet on the ban order till the Defence Minister’s official visit was over. Malaysia’s Works Minister Samy Vellu, now in Delhi for the Pravasi Bharatiya Divas jamboree, has sought to deflect attention from the outrageous decision of his Government by denying any such policy. Mr Vellu’s politics is based on public demonstrations of loyalty to Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi. But why is Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs Vyalar Ravi so eager to jump to the defence of the patently anti-Indian Badawi Government’s defence? That he did not have the foggiest idea about the decision to ban Indian workers is bad enough; it is worse that he should try to gloss over it now that it has been revealed. Rather than strive to give Mr Badawi’s repugnant regime a clean chit, Mr Ravi should be incandescent with rage. And the Prime Minister should seek an explanation from the Indian High Commission in Kuala Lumpur as to why it has been caught napping; it is not good enough for the mission to say it is “in touch with authorities”. Much more is expected from diplomats posted abroad.

    Meanwhile, the Government of India must urgently review the situation and take stock of the plight of people of Indian origin in Malaysia who are being victimised for no other reason than their faith. Hindu temples continue to be demolished, Hindus are being denied funerary rites, Hindus are excluded from jobs and welfare programmes, and Hindu protesters are brutalised in the most shocking manner. Now, Indians have been virtually banned from entering Malaysia, unless they are travelling to that country to sustain its tourism industry. There should be two responses to the appalling attitude of Mr Badawi and his Islamist colleagues. First, the Government of India must reconsider allowing Malaysian businesses access to the Indian market. Discrimination cannot be a one-way traffic. Nor is diplomacy about allowing an unfriendly Government to have its way. Of course, this calls for muscle-flexing, and it is anybody’s guess as to whether the effete UPA Government can summon the courage to confront Malaysia and contest its sinister anti-Indian policies. In all probability, it will remain silent lest Islamists at home feel offended and ‘secularists’ are upset by the Government of India speaking up for Indians. Second, Indians must stand up as a nation and decide to boycott Malaysia as a tourist destination. This is about national pride and national interest. If the Government cannot do the right thing, let Indians take the lead.

  91. #91 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:45 am

    Godfather says

    “It amazes me that someone with so little brainpower and so little charisma can be elected to run a country …”

    No, he was never elected to run a country. He was appointed as the one to succeed him by his boss who was running the country.

    Mahathir was a crafty politician, a veteran at what he did. He appointed him as deputy because he’s weak and would never be a threat to him while PM.

  92. #92 by Godfather on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:54 am

    He was elected to lead UMNO and by default assumes the leadership of the country. Mahathir forgot that a dumb puppet with a long nose could be easily manipulated by certain people pulling the strings behind the curtain. Mahathir thought that he was the only credible puppetmaster.

  93. #93 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:54 am

    But isn’t Abdullah Badawi half Malay half Chinese? People of mixed parentage are supposed to above average in intelligence.

  94. #94 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 11:55 am

    Mahathir I think harbored thoughts of being Malaysia’s “come back kid.”

  95. #95 by disapointed86 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 12:05 pm

    undergrad2 Says:
    But isn’t Abdullah Badawi half Malay half Chinese? People of mixed parentage are supposed to above average in intelligence.

    disapointed86 Says:
    laugh my @ss out..u think too much..here what i got for you..what u expect?

    Abdullah is a former student of Bukit Mertajam High School. He received a Bachelor of Arts in Islamic Studies from the University of Malaya in 1964. He originally wished to pursue a degree in Economics but did not meet the required standard after failing his statistics paper.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Ahmad_Badawi

  96. #96 by smeagroo on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 12:08 pm

    Of cos crashed lah the index. Every rioter during BErsih and HIndraf is considered as ONE criminal offence.

  97. #97 by Godfather on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 12:08 pm

    God works in mysterious ways. Children of the same set of parents can be vastly different degrees of intelligence. We cannot generalise that children of mixed parentage are supposed to be superior in intelligence. All we know is that we are in the precarious position of “Dumb and Dumber”.

  98. #98 by ALtPJK on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 12:11 pm

    Hi Undergrad2, don’t you think Mahathir has to go through second childhood first before becoming a ‘come back kid’?

    In Bolehland, this may be possible!

  99. #99 by oknyua on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 12:20 pm

    “This is what happens when there is no meritocracy from the top downwards.”

    Godfather, you said it all. Beside that, the qualified have no voice at all in his cabinet; Radzi (successful lawyer), Rais (PhD Law), to name two. He felt threatened by these two.

    YB Lim, the commentators had agreed with your “F” rating for AAB on security, national security and law and order. Needless to add more.

    As one commentator mention, how to get this info to the voters? The nation can’t be allowed to suffer another 4 more years of AAB and his inept leadership, if you could call it leadership. He suffers one humiliation after another with his failures. To make it worse, he does not seem to be in control now. His subordinates are his mouthpiece, which itself is a mockery. Even the youths are sending pillow and bolster to the PM’s office. To me he is already scrapping bottom, if there is any.

  100. #100 by k1980 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 12:23 pm

    So what if mixed parentage? Crossbreed a horse and a donkey and you get a mule, which is not more intelligent than a horse or a donkey

  101. #101 by ALtPJK on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 12:54 pm

    As an after-thought I should have worded it thus:

    “don’t you think Mahathir has to go through SECOND childhood FIRST before becoming a ‘come back kid’? He would then be the THIRD contender for the PM post though he needs to contend with the FOURTH floor boys. The plight of the minority race making up about a FIFTH of the population would then worsen should the one whose name starts with the SIXTH letter of ‘RAHMAN’ be the eventually victor.”

  102. #102 by Kit on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 1:14 pm

    I am in trouble. For the past 21 hours I have not been able to upload onto my blog, although this glitch does not seem to affect other WordPress functions like receiving comments and that of the moderation list.

    The first blog casualty is Farish Noor’s excellent piece “The A, B and C of God”, and I tried to upload it umpteenth times but to no avail.

    Unless this WordPress problem is resolved, it will not be possible to update the blog. While trying to figure out what is wrong – and I have absolutely no clue at the moment so anyone who can help will be most welcome – I am producing below Farish Noor’s latest article so that Farish words of wisdom is immediately available to visitors of this blog and to even farther afield including the Fourth Storey and other floors of Putrajaya. – kit 10.1.08 1.15 pm

  103. #103 by disapointed86 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 1:37 pm

    Uncle Kit,
    No wonder no new post uploaded onto your blog today..maybe someone is trying something fishy to freeze your blog? and as you said that “this glitch does not seem to affect other WordPress functions like receiving comments and that of the moderation list”….anyway i believe someone out there may come up with the solution as i’m not familiar in hosting a blog…good luck Uncle Kit…God Bless..

  104. #104 by Evenmind on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 2:24 pm

    This what happens when certain communities are marginalised in any one country, picture this, if have a a large family at home , say 10 children, and u give exceptional treatment and care only to 7 of them and you totally ignore the the other 3, guess what happens to them , who will be the future renegades, your guess is as good AS MINE, NOW THE CHICKENS HAS COME HOME TO ROOST., Do you the Government can contrlol the crime spree, I doubt it, it is only going to increase, and who knows, criminals would even start looting the policy makers ,what goes around ,comes around Good Luck to the morons who are running this helpless country, its all doom and gloom , if these morons are to continue running the country. May Allah bless Malaysia.

  105. #105 by bolehlandor on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 2:26 pm

    YB
    This buffoon aab is still sleeping or has he ceased to exist (ever heard of voodoo’s living dead?) Crimes is exploding like an atomic bomb & this buffoon is planning to tour the world on the rakyat’s money with his new wife.
    Sadly the so-called cabinet is also comprising of living deads who are conscious of cheating money of the nation through corruption & other hidden criminal deeds. Should the rakyat put such a circus to rule again?!!!

  106. #106 by khch01 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 2:43 pm

    CRIME IS THE REFLECTION OF CORRUPTION. GET RID OF CORRUPTION WILL GET RID OF CRIME. CCTV WILL NOT REDUCE THE CRIME RATE.

  107. #107 by mendela on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 2:52 pm

    ”I am in trouble. For the past 21 hours I have not been able to upload onto my blog’. Kit.

    During this critical period (b4 GE is held), this blog must be protected from hijacking at all costs!

    Can bloggers out there offer your expert opinions on how this can be done?

    What is Kit’s Plan B or Plan C when this blog is down? How can we get communicate?

  108. #108 by bystander on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 2:55 pm

    Our Jeffrey here is even better than the Federal Court judge who does not even know what prima facie means. A conflicting written judgement with mistakes by a once high court judge now a federal court judge. What a joke. They are all there because of colour of skin. Most of them are really shameless.

  109. #109 by Loh on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 3:05 pm

    ///I am producing below Farish Noor’s latest article so that Farish words of wisdom is immediately available to visitors of this blog and to even farther afield including the Fourth Storey and other floors of Putrajaya. – kit 10.1.08 1.15 pm///

    I believe the name “Farish Noor’ has triggered the virus attack. The article never appear as you have intended.

  110. #110 by mendela on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 3:08 pm

    For some unknown reasons, today’s Chinese language dailies are for the first time giving substantial reports on activities of opposition parties….

  111. #111 by mysn1st on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 3:14 pm

    Oh…Ya YB,
    I believe what most Malaysians worried about, especially those who had left and are planning to leave the country soon.

    However our Abdullah administrative are not sensitive about this.

  112. #112 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 3:22 pm

    For those who want to read and comment on Farish Noor’s “The A, B, C of God, here is the link – http://www.othermalaysia.org/

  113. #113 by KanNinNeh on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 3:52 pm

    The corrupted situation in BN has given rise to a consequence that all the good quality are now in PAS, PKR and DAP !

    So don’t expect too much from the bunch of the corrupted monkeys !

    Vote them out !

  114. #114 by Jonny on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 4:05 pm

    KLSE going up very good also ma. Proof of good economy. Soon, crime index will go down. everyone got job. everyone got money to spend. Thanks to the share market. Thanks to the coming Chinese New Year, more stock rallies. More goodies to come. Vote for BN, we all won’t go wrong for another 5 years. LOL.

  115. #115 by Kit on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 4:08 pm

    [There was no virus attack triggered by “Farish Noor”. I had appended Farish’s article to my note, but had deleted it after several failed attempts to upload the entirety. At least the note got through. I was wrong when I said the other WorldPress functions were operating well, as the WorldPress ‘comment’ mechanism is operating erratically. – Kit]

    The above was a note to Loh’s post (15: 05.22) but it was another function which failed. – kit

  116. #116 by Jong on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 4:51 pm

    “But isn’t Abdullah Badawi half Malay half Chinese? People of mixed parentage are supposed to above average in intelligence.” – undergrad2

    He is an abrasion. For every rule there’s an exception. In this case, he is de only exception! :D

  117. #117 by AhPek on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 5:32 pm

    K1980,
    Whilst I think your remarks that cross-breeding a horse and a donkey will result iin getting a mule which is a worse off product than its original 2 progenitors is superb retort to undergrad 2’s comments on mixed blood, I have a nagging suspicion his remarks is employed to show how the sly fox mammak’s game is outfoxed by a supposedly timid dopy looking chappy who is half malay and half chinese.

  118. #118 by HJ Angus on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 6:02 pm

    Jong

    I think you mean “aberration”?

  119. #119 by KanNinNeh on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 6:50 pm

    “Another girl goes missing in Taman Medan area

    PETALING JAYA: Another girl has gone missing. This time the victim is five-year-old Sharlinie Mohd Nashar who disappeared while playing about 200m from her house in Taman Dato Harun on Wednesday.

    Missing: Mohd Nashar holding Sharlinie’s picture as Suraya and Sharliena look on at their home in Taman Dato Harun, Petaling Jaya, on Wednesday.
    Police are not ruling out the possibility that the “Kampung Baru molester” – the man responsible for the cruel killing of Nurin Jazlin Jazimin – could have abducted Sharlinie, the second to be reported missing in the Taman Medan area in two days.

    On Monday, a six-year-old girl was abducted by a man on a motorcycle when she was playing alone near her flats in Kampung Sepakat, Taman Medan, about 2km from where Sharlinie went missing.”

    So, which is more important and urgent now, the little girl or CSL Sex DVD ?

  120. #120 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 8:35 pm

    ALtPJK,

    Hillary Clinton (soon to hit her 60s) after the New Hampshire primary two days ago is now touted as the “come back kid” just like her husband Bill was. In the U.S. they love “come back kids”. Americans like to see someone falls and then picks herself or himself up and rise above the fray.

    Could Mahathir be Malaysia’s first “come back kid” – not an impossibility given the present circumstances affecting UMNO, however remote it appears to us. It need not have to be as the country’s prime minister.

  121. #121 by Jong on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 8:50 pm

    oooops my spelling mistake, should have double checked. Thanks Angus!

  122. #122 by zioburosky13 on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 8:57 pm

    There’s a saying when a country’s crime rate is climbing, its economic status is going down hill.

    Perhaps this is the real reason of Malaysia’s high crime index – everyone is too poor and force to do anything to get money no matter it’s legal or not.

  123. #123 by DarkHorse on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 9:40 pm

    I’m sorry to hear about your abrasion, Jong.

  124. #124 by Jong on Thursday, 10 January 2008 - 9:54 pm

    You had been extremely quiet, how come? Guilty?

  125. #125 by DarkHorse on Friday, 11 January 2008 - 7:30 am

    To lift up your spirits and your mind away from the abrasion you suffered, here’s an old native American joke.

    Among the Indians (nothing to do with Samy Vellu) hordes of young braves would visit their villages now and then, and with each visit their squaws would get pregnant.

    But on one such occasion their chief laments “Many braves come. Many moons go. How come no baby come??”

    I hope it does not remind you of your abrasion.

  126. #126 by csl on Friday, 11 January 2008 - 8:25 am

    Talk is always easier than do. Ask yourselves 1st what if you are sitting on the PM chair. To control your son is not hard. But to control a more than 26 millions population is not easy.

    You always hate white elephant project. They shut down few. But end up with rising crime. Don’t know if those mob in penang or kl who destroy things or make the town full of rubbish in a blink can consider a crime or not.

    If one person ever able to make things become perfect in a short time, he/she will 1st work for Singapore gov 1st.

    I’m pretty surprise that, most people here, judging a thing just base on emotion. For me, the only thing can be blamed, is the country don’t have much rakyat that have independent thinking, that, will not easily effect by others.

    People will only endlessly demand. After all the things you complaint about, do you ever ask what had you done in the 1st place? I just afraid you can’t even refuse to use a plastic bag that is not environment friendly or share car to let the country to have less burden on the fuel subsidy. Talk about other more importing things, I just afraid you will soon divert the subject to else where.

  127. #127 by ckl on Friday, 11 January 2008 - 12:12 pm

    Please do not simply comment that “most Malaysia do not have independent thinking”. Actually, Malaysian are now improved and more can think maturely compared to old time. Now, Malaysian are more educated, know how to judge and not fooled by “temporary sweets”. Evidence of this is the methods of Malaysian solve the problem or raise their request are more like those developed country such as Europe. Unfortunately, the government handled the issues using crocodile and ostrich method. This make the unique of Malaysia. People starts their request with gentle but meet with ostrich, continue the request with gentle but meet with crocodile. In the end, problem not solved. This is Malaysia.

    In the modern days, no more kings, only left leaders and leaders is public servants. hence, Public is the BOSS and Leader is the SERVANTs. It has no problem for public to demand, just like our boss demand us. If the leader cannot make it, he or she should give way to a more capable person. Once again just like those developed country, none of a party of leader can lead a developed country for more than 10 years, 1 thing is because of the election regulation but please be clear that even do not have election regulation, they will still fail, just like US, Taiwan, Australia…..
    For Example, the US president is changed from Republic and democratic all over the time, old Bush to Clinton, Clinton to young Bush, this year most probably will be Hilary or Obama.

    In a democratic country, a healthy political climate should have 2 parties or 2 aliances that can think maturely and able against each other at anytime. Then, they will always think for the citizen and work hard for their BOSS in order to preserve their support. As a BOSS, public should think maturely and do not fooled by those political trick easily. In order to achieve this, qualitative education is very important, but sadly, Malaysia practise quantitative education.

    In order to handle a country is not the one man show, the advisory board compatibality is also very critical and important, if the leader found that his advisors cannot perform, he should “chopped off” and replace with capables and not wait till the BOSS angry on him or her.

    For the sake of Malaysia, we should look forward to develope our country to achieve Vision 2020 and we should also learn the lessons from the developed countries experience and avoid the pains, obstacles and mistake that they have did or encountered in the process to achieve it.

    For the future of Malaysia, self awareness of those leaders and citizen is most important. Remember, only the BOSS can fired the SERVANTs, even CEO also cannot fired director. Please do not make the thing upside down in Malaysia. This may tumble the whole country.

  128. #128 by Jong on Friday, 11 January 2008 - 1:32 pm

    Thanks DarkHorse, your native Indian joke was a good one! My spirits are ok, I’m not so easily offended but I have said my piece and I stand by it.

    Whilst we are on that native Indian joke, here’s one on former Minister of Health Dr Chua Soi Lek’s blatant failure in lack research on Alzheimer’s:

    “There is more money being spent on breast implants and viagra today than on Alzheimer’s research. This means that by 2040, there should be a large elderly population with perky boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with them!”

  129. #129 by DarkHorse on Friday, 11 January 2008 - 10:12 pm

    Which one would you prefer the former or the latter?

  130. #130 by chgchksg128 on Friday, 11 January 2008 - 11:27 pm

    too much of foreign labour make the crime high..we have more indon than Indian in Mlaysia especially in KL
    http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/2008/01/too-much-of-foreigners.html

  131. #131 by EARNEST on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 3:12 am

    “But isn’t Abdullah Badawi half Malay half Chinese? People of mixed parentage are supposed to above average in intelligence.” – undergrad2

    So what if mixed parentage? Crossbreed a horse and a donkey and you get a mule, which is not more intelligent than a horse or a donkey — k1980 Says

    Whilst I think your remarks that cross-breeding a horse and a donkey will result in getting a mule which is a worse off product than its original 2 progenitors is superb retort to undergrad 2’s comments on mixed blood…. AhPek

    Theoretically, mixed marriages will produce better looking offsprings with better qualities than both parents because usually the best traits which are genetically dominant from both parents will be expressed. This is generally true.

    Those who believe in the theory of evolution accept that nature learns by trial and error in improving the species.

    However, ceteris paribus need to be considered when drawing conclusions about the outcome of a particular mixed marriages. There are too many variables confusing the issue.

    We all belong to the same species, Homo sapiens — the modern man –irrespective of races.

    Homo, is a Latin word for “ human”. Homo sapiens is the only extant species of its genus. The study of the origins of Homo sapiens often demonstrates that there were other Homo species, such as Homo floresiensis, Homo neanderthalensis, etc, etc, etc., all of which are now extinct.

    A species can be defined as a group of individuals that breed together to produce fertile offspring. Individuals of a species cannot breed with other such groups. It is sometimes possible for different species to breed, but the offspring will be sterile. A mule is the sterile offspring of a donkey and a horse, and the mule can never mate and reproduce itself. (adapted)

    A horse and donkey are 2 different species of the genus Equus, viz., Equus caballus and Equus asinus respectively.
    A mule is the offspring of a jackass (male donkey) and a mare (female horse).
    A hinny is the offspring of a stallion (male horse) and a jenny (female donkey).
    Mules and hinnies are usually sterile. The sterility is attributed to the differing number of chromosomes of the two species: donkeys have 62 chromosomes, whereas horses have 64. Mules and hinnies have 63 chromosomes that are a mixture of one from each parent.

    You see, Mother Nature also imposes check and balance to prevent adverse consequences of inter-species crossings from messing up her plans.

    I am not sure if the mule is not smarter than its progenitors, and in fact “it possesses the sobriety, patience, endurance and sure-footedness of the donkey, and the vigor, strength and courage of the horse.” – adapted.

    In view of the above facts, an inter-racial marriage (mixed marriage) can not be equated with an inter-species crossing between a horse and a donkey. An inter-species crossing between different human species is impossible because besides us, the rest were already extinct.

    Humans’ closest living evolutionary relative is the chimpanzee. Humans shared a common ancestor with chimpanzees five to eight million years ago. Research has found 94% identical DNA between human beings and chimpanzees. Theoretically, it is possible to transfer genes between humans and chimpanzees, but it would be unthinkable to attempt a cross.

  132. #132 by aiD_kamikuP on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 11:15 am

    “Theoretically, it is possible to transfer genes between humans and chimpanzees, but it would be unthinkable to attempt a cross.” – EARNEST

    I think it has happened before. Don’t you remember Zam??

  133. #133 by Jong on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 3:23 pm

    Another good one, I just fell off my chair !! :D

  134. #134 by aiD_kamikuP on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 3:57 pm

    We are victims, you see, in this country of one repression after another. So when there is an opportunity to have laughter, though somewhat cruel at the expense of someone else, it can’t be resisted. Sorry you fell off your chair but I am still having abdominal muscle aches from non-stop laughing.

  135. #135 by Colonel on Monday, 14 January 2008 - 10:37 pm

    “Theoretically, it is possible to transfer genes between humans and chimpanzees….” Dirty Old Man EARNEST

    This DOM is at it again! We’ve not forgotten his fixation with the “woman’s vulva and the re-growth of the clitrois, now he’s advocating that we have sex with the chimpanzees!

  136. #136 by Jong on Tuesday, 15 January 2008 - 12:53 am

    When divine anger ruins a man, it first takes away his good sense.

  137. #137 by EARNEST on Wednesday, 16 January 2008 - 5:19 am

    Colonel’s distorted inferences reveal a hidden subconscious preference, which is a deviation from what is natural and normally considered good sense.

  138. #138 by ntradical on Saturday, 29 March 2008 - 11:38 pm

    After 20 over years staying in a peaceful town call Nibong Tebal(Seberang Perai Selatan, Penang main Land), this is the first time my house get broke in! Where are the police who claim they did their patrol job? They claim they have so call “8 pondok Polis”, but what’s the use when they are sleeping?! Many complains have been done! But no effort! Lucky my son was not harm as he was sound asleep ion the house! NEW UNIFORM won’t change a thing unless ATTITUDE is reform! We can’t accept sikap “TIDAK APA” anymore!!! Security is at stake!!!!!!!!!!!

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