I have given notice to the Speaker, Tan Sri Ramli Ngah for an emergency motion in Parliament on Monday on the collapse of the RM4.5 million Perak State Park Corporation complex in the Royal Belum State Park, Perak.
Only two days ago, in his visit to Sarawak, the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi was calling on state governments to contribute positively to his campaign to improve the government delivery system.
The Perak State Government seems to have delivered a response with the collapse of the complex in Belum Park.
It is unfortunate but true that in his four years as Prime Minister, there are increasing evidence of Malaysia degenerating from “First-World Infrastructure, Third-World Mentality” to “Third-World Infrastructure, Fourth-rate Mentality” where there are not only cracks galore in public buildings, but we seem to have entered into a new phase of collapsing buildings!
Never before in the 50-year history of the nation has the public service been seen as more inept and incompetent — with the unending list of “crack-ups” of new government buildings and public construction projects, whether the brand-new administrative capital of Putrajaya, the RM270 million world’s second largest court complex in Jalan Duta, Kuala Lumpur, the repeated leaks in the Parliament Building after RM100 million renovation, the safety of the 15-storey Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Ministry in Precinct 4, Putrajaya and the latest, the “implosion” and collapse of the RM4.5 million Royal Belum State Park administrative complex.
Who is going to be responsible for the RM4.5 million losses following the collapse of the Royal Belum State Park complex? Will it be the long-suffering taxpayers who will have to be the suckers again to foot the bill — while everyone else, whether the contractor, the government supervisor and those in authority who had a cut in the RM4.5 million project, enjoy impunity with some laughing all the way to the bank with their profits?
Heads must roll, and roll immediately, for the shameful “implosion” of the Tasik Banding complex — or are there no one to be held responsible?
In my motion in Parliament on Monday, I will press for an independent public inquiry to probe into the causes of the disgraceful collapse of the complex at Royal Belum state park and the parties responsible for it.
#1 by Godfather on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 8:05 am
“Who is going to be responsible for the RM4.5 million losses following the collapse of the Royal Belum State Park complex?”
Answer: No one. The subcontractor is long gone, and his company is probably already wound up. The state officials who approved the contract are probably retired, living in large mansions and driving new cars.
The BN thieves triumph again !
#2 by lakshy on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 8:59 am
YB, Play up all the misdeeds of the Perak Govt. And work for the Opposition to take control of Perak. I am sure it can be done with the help of PAS and Keadilan.
Then make Perak run in a much better manner and showcase it for the rest of the country.
Many are fed-up of the present administration, both at State and Federal level.
#3 by Libra2 on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 9:36 am
Speaker: Motion denied as the subject is not urgent.
#4 by LittleBird on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 9:46 am
Samy is already looking into it so motion denied.
#5 by fm2 on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 10:08 am
Malaysia Lead by Fourth World mentallity people, wht do we all expect?
#6 by oknyua on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 11:15 am
Godfather, you touched once again the right nerve point with the word “subcontractor.” I found that most subcontractors are cheated and unpaid.
I was asked to quote RM1.5 m to construct a canopy in one public… I won’t tell you where. The condition was RM90,000 “advance” payment needed for a “Datin.” And how much is the canopy cost? His answer, “Well, we have this Chinese contractor that can do it for RM600,000.”
I didn’t say Fresh Orange to that group but advised him to find someone else.
#7 by oknyua on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 11:23 am
YB Lim, there inquiry would be, as usual denied. For a RM4.5 m complex, almost any class E contractor (real contractor) can complete the project.
1. On a slope, any soil test done?
2. The piling, where is the report?
3. The steel Bar, BS or CQ?
4. The BRC, CQ again?
5. Concrete, what ratio?
YB Lim, don’t let them bluff you. The above does not take more than a week to check.
#8 by HJ Angus on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 11:29 am
The reply will be the usual:
“Nobody got killed” – so no public interest.
or
“No one using building” – so no urgency.
Contractor will be held responsible so no wastage of public funds.
Motion denied!
#9 by HJ Angus on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 11:30 am
I think in the Engineers Act, the structural engineer can be hauled up by the BoE.
#10 by disapointed86 on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 12:37 pm
wow…so many structure colapse recently..when will be the PM’s office colapse?
#11 by sj on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 12:53 pm
This is an open secret right? Construction project is the biggest kuali for corruption. Simply suck away 10% of the fund and you can be rich. All the accounts for the construction project, where are they? I am betting that Sami No Value will said OSA to you the moment you ask for such information.
Come on man, everyone knows it, how much money you have to offer to get the tender, and how much money is also sucked when you are ordering and supplying the raw material for construction. This is the Malaysia style of complete stupidity and inadequacy. Where there is no integrity in the system, you can betcha that more of this kind of tragedy is going to happen 10 to 20 years down the road.
#12 by Malaysiacorrupted on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 1:32 pm
[Functions of Board Of Engineers Malaysia
d) Regulating the Conduct and Ethics of the Engineering Profession
… Any matter concerning the professional conduct of registered engineers will be studied by the Board to determine whether there is a breach of professional ethics or code.
If the need arises, BEM will carry out investigations to establish whether there is a prima facie case against a registered engineer for contravening the Act. The procedures to follow are prescribed in Section 15 of the Act.
If there is a breach of professional ethics or code of conduct on the part of the engineer but such breach is not serious enough to warrant suspension or cancellation of registration, appropriate action, e.g. warning, censure or advice would be taken by BEM as deemed fit. .. ]
taken from http://bem.org.my/bemfinal/html/testing/00aboutus1.htm
YB Lim,
Please determine who is the structural engineer and the contractor for this project. Then lodge a police report and follow up with a formal request to BEM to initiate an investigation on this big issue.
If BEM doenst investigate on this, then I guess they have failed in their function as the regulating body of the engineers in Malaysia.
#13 by Malaysiacorrupted on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 1:33 pm
By the way, BEM = Board of Engineers Malaysia
#14 by shortie kiasu on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 2:38 pm
It is good to debate in Parliament, like other issues, and that is all.
After all the talks, is the government going to recover the money back in full with interest and specific performance? After the whole building is now lying flat on the ground, nothing standing. What is left is all the concrete roubles waste that has to be cleared to preserve environment and mitigate the adverse impacts.
The poeple do not expect nothing.
When the crooked bridge was cancelled, government paid out hundreds of million of ringgit to the contractors and whoever.
When the proposed incinerator project, not even off the ground, was abandoned in Broga due to huge protest by the residents, government is going to pay (or has paid) again hundreds of million ringgit to the yet-to-start work contractors!
So now this contractor had failed in performing and caused serious damage, compensation? NO, no…
The cronies are involved, the Bumi contractor is involved, the Malay contractors are involved. These are the protected being that needs help, and crutches must be readily given. They cannot be asked to compensate in any situation because they are in a never-ending learning stage, and they are the absolutely-protected beings under the law of the land.
This another way that the country could learn to squander the money away.
#15 by Justicewanted on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 3:19 pm
Motion denied as no lives is involved…. This is BolehLand
#16 by ihavesomethingtosay on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 5:05 pm
Obviously……….
ACTS OF GOD.
endo of story.
:D
#17 by hkh on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 6:55 pm
Thank god, don’t blame god.
It is a blessing that the whole thing collapsed, otherwise the repair costs will be more than RM 4.5 million.
Remember MRR2, did the contractor & consultants pay for the repairs?
Then the parliament roof repairs cost RM18 millions, 4 times this mess!
The crooked bridge that wasn’t built but still have to pay.
Same with the incinerator project.
Ain’t we lucky? One irrelevant project less.
#18 by Filibuster on Saturday, 17 November 2007 - 11:19 pm
That’s right, regarding the Engineers Act. Indeed the structural engineer can be hauled up, but they won’t do it simply because in the desperation, the engineer in charge may actually rat out the real culprits behind the situation.
#19 by wits0 on Sunday, 18 November 2007 - 3:03 am
Yep Filibuster, I agree, they won’t do what’s logical. This hotair exchange will disappear from the radar and memory very soon. The MSM will see to that, as usual. Another of those initially alarming story with a beginning but no conclusive ending.
That’s how things are done in Malaysia(like what the FM Hamid said).
#20 by DarkHorse on Sunday, 18 November 2007 - 3:42 am
Could this locally qualified structural engineer be that Dollah from Kg. Attap who masquerades as “limkamput” on this blog??
#21 by sotong on Monday, 19 November 2007 - 8:06 am
It’s OK!
This is public and taxpayers money from their sweat and tear……there is plenty more where it come from!
#22 by ktteokt on Wednesday, 28 November 2007 - 9:55 pm
As usual, this is corruption at its peak. Look at what happened to the Ampang Highway, the Kepong flyover, the new courts complex in Jalan Duta and last but not least PARLIAMENT House itself. These are all disgraceful things which the BN government should be ashamed of!!!!!!