Wouldn’t there be a tear on the spinchter muscles? Or is it natural for characters like the guy full of sai to get his arse rammed even without the use of any lubricants. Even virgins show a tear or rupture in their hymen when they are penetrated and that is what doctors look for in a rape case.

Since Sai full claims that he was an unwilling victim, then it is rape. The police do not take any action over female rape victims if they do not report immediately and if there is no sign of penetration or the presence of semen.

But in Sai full’s case why is the BN and Najib in particular so sympathetic to this dropout? The funny thing is the guy claime to be sodomised after seeing Najib for a scholarship? When did the BN govt. start giving out scholarship to university dropouts?

So many inexplicable situations! Really mind boggling but not for our very efficient police and the prosecution. This is truly Malaysia, anything is possible Bolehland.

Schools use NIE (newspapers in education) n yesterday teachers were asked Q by their young charges while reading d newspapers:
Teacher, teacher, what is f**k, liwat, semen, sodomy, anal intercourse, etc ah?
Teacher, teacher, is it alright for me 2 greet you or my friends “Can I f**k you today”?
Teacher, teacher, plz explain what “Can I f**k you today” means ah?
Teacher, teacher, plz show us f**k n liwat. Got or not got difference ah?
Teacher, teacher, “Can I f**k you AGAIN today”?

At home too, children, while reading papers, ask their parents similar Q
Papa, mama, what is f**k, liwat, semen, sodomy, anal intercourse, etc ah?

This is a nation of instant heightened sexual awareness n sexuality
1000X better in effect than Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D. H. Lawrence, published in 1928
Or The Prayer Mat of Flesh (@Before Midnight Scholar)

A clandestine study discovered that the years after Sodomy I trial n publicity saw a spike in rampant sexual activities among adolescents in our nation
Some of them subsequently embarked upon a life of debauchery
Hey, Y not, make easy big bucks by claiming 2 b liwat or by offering A-hole n sh!t canal as a semen collection vessel, rather than 2 remain as unemployable graduate or dropout
Wonder if full of sai were inspired by Ummi, Azizan, Mee Sodo I
Wonder too if d now world famous full of sai would become an inspiring role model to thousands of kids in 2010
One sure constipating way 2 fame n fortune
We will find out the answer in subsequent years

Some argue that DNA evidence can at best supports other substantial evidence indicating guilt.

They are wrong. Their minds are focussed only on winning the case in court for legal legitimacy. They fail to grasp the wider picture and angle that there’s more to it – because here the other Court – the Court of Public Opinion, whether domestic or international, needs to be satisfied and convinced.

Can Public Opinion ever be satisfied (just because of the conclusiveness of DNA identification) in light of the surrounding circumstances highlighted in preceding 2 posts?

It does not take a genius to recognize the folly of taking another to court on a charge of consensual sodomy when the chief and only principal witness – the complainant himself – has an interest in self preservation to narrate a version of events conistent with him being coerced/forced (rape) but inconsistent and conflicting with the gravament of the section 377B charge itself based on consensual sodomy with which the trial is concerned!

One ends up having one’s own chief witness telling a version which inherently contains contradictions sabotaging one’s own case based on 377B!

How to convince and change a Public Opinion/perception that has pre-set idea that sodomy story is a fabrication?

If Public Opinion is not convinced what’s the point of the entire exercise, the publicity of which brings shame and dishonour to the Country? Arguably it will not do the prosecuting party any good either because if people’s minds are not changed, then their minds become fortified and angered by what they perceive, and are now doubly convinced is persecution of a victim twice and will demonstrate that anger in their votes!

Still one may ask how then did the govt’s chemist get semen sample for DNA identification? The trouble is the public is already skeptical with the independence and professionalism of findings of any govt’s expert based on Teoh Beng Hock’s case where govt forensic experts found that TBH has “committed suicide” against widespread public disbelief and the findings of Thai pathologist Dr Pornthip.

We’re talking here of a large segment of people whose mind is, at the outset, inclined to believing that the prosecution is politically motivated and which is entirely skeptical about sodomy allegations. Ultimately it is of this “Court of Public Opinion” that really counts bearing on the political equation raised by Chris Wright. How to convince and change this perception that the case is not politically motivated?

There are two problems here. The fact that the complainant Saiful coincidentally visited the PM at the time immediately before the alleged incidence does not help the State’s case. Even if the complainant said that it was for a scholarship, skeptics would wonder what transpired beyond that!

Secondly there’s an element of selective prosecution. Section 377B of Penal Code (for which Anwar is charged) is about unnatural sex which includes not just anal intercourse but also oral one! So people will ask in respect of the unnatural anal one, why if its consensual, Saiful were not charged like Anwar – and in respect of the oral one, why Chuah Soi Lek was not charged? Again these kind of selective prosecution does not help in efforts of changing people’s mind already made up!

For all these reasons and under these circumstances of doubts and inconsistencies of the Complainant’s and Prosecution’s positions the pursuing of the 377B charge on the Opposition head may be ill advised and backfire on all who seek it to unglue the Opposition. The opposite could likely happen especially so when such trial promises to be protracted, continuing well to the time of next election before the appellate process is exhausted. It is also no good for the nation in image, investment and economic terms.

One cannot pursue a 377B charge based on consensual sodomy unless evidence is very solid with no surrounding circumstances to contradict it. One is ill advised to pursue it when the chief witness the complainant himself is going all out to show he was forced when all circumstances contradict that position and hence cast a long shadow of doubt on the credibility and value of his testimony, the benefit of the doubt of which ought whether in the Court of Law or Court of Public Opinion be given to the accused!

First, unless the participants are directly seen engaged in the illicit act by 3rd party witnesses, it is ordinarily very difficult, I would say almost impossible, to prove consensual anal sex as section 377B implicates. For the participants themselves will not report each other for obvious reasons. Especially so in a conservative religious society where both share the shame and ostracism even if they escape legal punishment. Here lies the first problem when the accuser Mohd Saiful goes to court and tell his story. He will (understandably) never say he did it voluntarily and happily in fear of shame as well as complicity in the very crime he accuses the other of. So he would narrate and skew narration of events to show he was “forced”. Thats where the chief and only witness himself poses insurmountale obstacles for the Prosecution – the facts & law don’t support its chief witness’s storyline, for eg, if he were “forced why did he take 2 days after the alleged act to report the case? It’s not an ordinary behaviour of a person violated against his will. In fact he didn’t even think of reporting the case. It was not his first reaction. He landed in Hospital Pusrawi to see Dr Mohamed Osman to complain, according to the doctor, of pain in anus and abdominal area. According to the doctor, the complainant said a “plastic” (which we could assume was a plastic dildo) was used to penetrate him. This storyline poses a problem because any person violated against his will would immediately report to police first and then taken to hospital for clinical examination – not the other way around, as in this case, where complainant had no sense of urgency/anger and took 2 days to see a doctor first, more to find relief for abdominal or anal discomfort!

To compound the problem prosecution would have to prove “penetration” and rely on semen resulting from that penetration collected from complainant anus for positive DNA identification of the accused. Proving penetration is difficult. Unless violent force was applied, one could not find larcerations or tear or unusuial distendment in anal area, especially after 2 days had elapsed from time of alleged incidence. Indeed the hospital reports appear to confirm that there were no signs of penetration much less link it to the semen samples. Questions: How could a plastic dildo squirt semen (since the complainant said plastic was used on him)? Unless the complainant did not clear his bowels for 2 days, any call of nature within that period will rid, if not contaminate, the physical evidence of semen in the anus collected from that area.

A. Anwar lied about his age. He’s actually 16 years old

B. Saiful lied about his age. He’s actually 24 months old

C. Anwar threatened to order his bodyguards to c4 Saiful’s entire family

D. Can you trust an idiot who has been dismissed from university for flopping his first semester exam?

k1980 :
Anwar had then “ordered” him to proceed to the guest room where Saiful then stripped and donned a towel before the opposition leader hugged him.

Errr… if Anwar ask him to eat dog dung, I believe he will also eat. This Saiful obviously must have ask for it for there is no hint that he showed any objection. So if one is charged, so also must the other.

This old man, he played four;
He played knick-knack on my door.
With a knick-knack, paddy whack,
Give a dog a bone;
This old man came rolling home.

This old man, he played six;
He played knick-knack on my stick.
With a knick-knack, paddy whack,
Give a dog a bone;
This old man came rolling home.

Luckily Saiful had not been given a scholarship to the US or else George Bush would be impeached for violating that sacked undergraduate’s backdoor

If the above scenario had been the script for a porn movie, the director and producer would find themselves bankrupt.

More comments from–
http://niamah.blogspot.com/2010/02/what-fk.html

Yes, Sodomy and Hypocrisy indeed. Do you recall PI Bala 1SD (i.e the 1st sd), in particular declaration point…

“25.2 Datuk Seri Na… T.. Ra… informed Abdul Razak Baginda that he had a sexual relationship with Aminah and that she was susceptible to anal intercourse.”

Woh!..ho!..ho!…What more sodomy do you want?