Comments on: Court rules Herald free to use the word “Allah” http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:45:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: samrah http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-2/#comment-208893 samrah Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:42:26 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-208893 it should not be an issue... it should not be an issue…

]]> By: boh-liao http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-2/#comment-201232 boh-liao Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:09:48 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201232 Marina M ahathir said those protesting against d court ruling obviously did not know enough about Is lam as a religion Confident people do not get confused Only weak n ignorant ppl get confused Her father who frothed against d court ruling is one of them Marina M ahathir said those protesting against d court ruling obviously did not know enough about Is lam as a religion
Confident people do not get confused
Only weak n ignorant ppl get confused
Her father who frothed against d court ruling is one of them

]]> By: good coolie http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-2/#comment-201211 good coolie Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:11:47 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201211 In Indonesia, the proper name of God is "Allah", for both christians and muslims. There is no confusion or anger there against christians on account of this. In West Malaysia, before Bahasa Malaysia came to be used widely, the use of "Allah" was exclusively confined to muslims. However, in the States of Sabah and Sarawak, both muslims and christians used "Allah", without any problem or "confusion". After the formation of Malaysia and the influx of Christians from Sabah and Sarawak, coupled with the continued expansion of Bahasa Malaysia among Peninsular Malaysians, "Allah" came to be used by Christians as a logical development of Bahasa Malaysia in the Church. Peninsular muslims need not feel offended or threatened. They should look at this issue from a broad perspective. Peninsular muslims must know that in all other muslim countries, christians use "Allah" without objection from muslims, even if they disagree with the christian idea of Allah. However I agree that the constitutional guarantee against preaching of other religions to muslims, should be respected. In Indonesia, the proper name of God is “Allah”, for both christians and muslims. There is no confusion or anger there against christians on account of this.

In West Malaysia, before Bahasa Malaysia came to be used widely, the use of “Allah” was exclusively confined to muslims. However, in the States of Sabah and Sarawak, both muslims and christians used “Allah”, without any problem or “confusion”.

After the formation of Malaysia and the influx of Christians from Sabah and Sarawak, coupled with the continued expansion of Bahasa Malaysia among Peninsular Malaysians, “Allah” came to be used by Christians as a logical development of Bahasa Malaysia in the Church.

Peninsular muslims need not feel offended or threatened. They should look at this issue from a broad perspective. Peninsular muslims must know that in all other muslim countries, christians use “Allah” without objection from muslims, even if they disagree with the christian idea of Allah.

However I agree that the constitutional guarantee against preaching of other religions to muslims, should be respected.

]]> By: i_love_malaysia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-2/#comment-201164 i_love_malaysia Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:40:12 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201164 I would never have the opportunity to become a Muslim in Malaysia even if I wanted to if I dont want to go against the law in the first place!!! How could I become a Muslim if I was not even allowed to mention the word Allah in the first place??? May be one day, they dont even allow others to read the Al-Quran for it is too holy for sinners to read it!!! I would never have the opportunity to become a Muslim in Malaysia even if I wanted to if I dont want to go against the law in the first place!!! How could I become a Muslim if I was not even allowed to mention the word Allah in the first place??? May be one day, they dont even allow others to read the Al-Quran for it is too holy for sinners to read it!!!

]]> By: i_love_malaysia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201162 i_love_malaysia Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:34:00 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201162 First, they try to ban others from using the word Allah, later, they will try to ban others from using any word in the Al-Quran!!! First, they try to ban others from using the word Allah, later, they will try to ban others from using any word in the Al-Quran!!!

]]> By: i_love_malaysia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201161 i_love_malaysia Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:30:55 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201161 How to differentiate between the Allah in Islam and the Allah in Christianity??? Allah in Islam - One and only Allah in Christianity - Holy Trinity; Father, Son & Holy Spirit e.g H2O in different forms i.e. ais, water and steam!!! There's no confusion unless one wants to be confused or to confuse others!!! How to differentiate between the Allah in Islam and the Allah in Christianity???
Allah in Islam – One and only
Allah in Christianity – Holy Trinity; Father, Son & Holy Spirit e.g H2O in different forms i.e. ais, water and steam!!!
There’s no confusion unless one wants to be confused or to confuse others!!!

]]> By: boh-liao http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201152 boh-liao Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:38:15 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201152 Actually there shld not be any joy as the case is doomed to fail at the outset Just read the news after the so-called victory verdict D gomen will continue 2 appeal n appeal Until d Umno-correct verdict is given by a politcially-savvy judge Pity d trusted Paul is no longer there 2 play his pivotal role Actually there shld not be any joy as the case is doomed to fail at the outset
Just read the news after the so-called victory verdict
D gomen will continue 2 appeal n appeal
Until d Umno-correct verdict is given by a politcially-savvy judge
Pity d trusted Paul is no longer there 2 play his pivotal role

]]> By: HJ Angus http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201145 HJ Angus Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:07:18 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201145 when you are in a den of wolves it is impossible to survive by trying to be a sheep! Especially when the head wolves are all howling at the same time. when you are in a den of wolves it is impossible to survive by trying to be a sheep!
Especially when the head wolves are all howling at the same time.

]]> By: cemerlang http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201130 cemerlang Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:20:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201130 Datuk Idris Jala is one of the very few good examples. Do you think he can say much now that he is in such a high position ? Does he not remind you all of Joseph who was made a governor later ? He could say this is what God has blessed him with. And the same man too, Joseph, would remind you all of Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng too. Datuk Idris Jala is one of the very few good examples. Do you think he can say much now that he is in such a high position ? Does he not remind you all of Joseph who was made a governor later ? He could say this is what God has blessed him with. And the same man too, Joseph, would remind you all of Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng too.

]]> By: HJ Angus http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201055 HJ Angus Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:03:37 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201055 Well in the last illegal and bloody demo, they just mooed about. Too few cops to control the cow-head incident. What happened to the case? I guess a few of those fellows who were not charged will be on active duty again. Well in the last illegal and bloody demo, they just mooed about.
Too few cops to control the cow-head incident.
What happened to the case?
I guess a few of those fellows who were not charged will be on active duty again.

]]> By: ekans http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201053 ekans Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:01:40 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201053 Isn't it strange that so far, we have not heard much of what the Christian bumiputras in Sabah & Sarawak have to say about this issue? Surely, their opinion counts as much as their votes which had contributed much to the simple majority that had allowed UMNO's BN to retain control of the federal government. Isn’t it strange that so far, we have not heard much of what the Christian bumiputras in Sabah & Sarawak have to say about this issue?
Surely, their opinion counts as much as their votes which had contributed much to the simple majority that had allowed UMNO’s BN to retain control of the federal government.

]]> By: frankyapp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201033 frankyapp Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:54:55 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201033 correction......lets see what the selangor CPO would do about it. correction……lets see what the selangor CPO would do about it.

]]> By: frankyapp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201032 frankyapp Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:51:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201032 Just a word,these so-called holy people now want to demonstrate in the street to denoumce the high count's verdict.They want the non -malays to respect the constitution but now are contradicting themselves..This now shows they are a real bunch of hypocrites.Lets see what the selangor CPO would about it . Just a word,these so-called holy people now want to demonstrate in the street to denoumce the high count’s verdict.They want the non -malays to respect the constitution but now are contradicting themselves..This now shows they are a real bunch of hypocrites.Lets see what the selangor CPO would about it .

]]> By: HJ Angus http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201030 HJ Angus Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:14:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201030 is the moderator asleep since 10:25am 2nd January 2010? is the moderator asleep since 10:25am 2nd January 2010?

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201026 ktteokt Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:58:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201026 johnnypok, you should try and spell the highest title conferred by the Agong in this country (TUN) and see what you get!!!!!! johnnypok, you should try and spell the highest title conferred by the Agong in this country (TUN) and see what you get!!!!!!

]]> By: cemerlang http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201025 cemerlang Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:46:13 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201025 Patenting it would be a good idea so that you guys do not have to scream and talk so loudly about it. But patenting it would have to go international. Patenting it would mean you are the very first person to come up with this word. No one else. Would you risk being accused of plagarism ? Or may be you would rather prefer being known for worshipping a moon god ? Is there anyone here to control the situation ? I ask again. Again professional linguist here ? Patenting it would be a good idea so that you guys do not have to scream and talk so loudly about it. But patenting it would have to go international. Patenting it would mean you are the very first person to come up with this word. No one else. Would you risk being accused of plagarism ? Or may be you would rather prefer being known for worshipping a moon god ? Is there anyone here to control the situation ? I ask again. Again professional linguist here ?

]]> By: yhsiew http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201015 yhsiew Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:17:46 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201015 Fight set to continue over use of ‘Allah’ KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 2 – The Prime Minister’s Department, with the cooperation of the Home Ministry, will appeal against the Kuala Lumpur High Court’s decision in allowing the Catholic weekly magazine, Herald, to use the word “Allah” in its publication. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/48281-fight-set-to-continue-over-use-of-allah- Fight set to continue over use of ‘Allah’

KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 2 – The Prime Minister’s Department, with the cooperation of the Home Ministry, will appeal against the Kuala Lumpur High Court’s decision in allowing the Catholic weekly magazine, Herald, to use the word “Allah” in its publication.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/48281-fight-set-to-continue-over-use-of-allah-

]]> By: ekans http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-201010 ekans Sat, 02 Jan 2010 10:44:02 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-201010 If it's true that this court verdict will result in confusion, why is it that the Christian and Muslim Arabs themselves are not confused over this issue? If it’s true that this court verdict will result in confusion, why is it that the Christian and Muslim Arabs themselves are not confused over this issue?

]]> By: HJ Angus http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-200974 HJ Angus Sat, 02 Jan 2010 04:58:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-200974 Malaysia has regressed as a nation and this case is proof of that. http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2010/01/malaysiakini-on-allah-conundrum-we-can.html testing the moderator [caught by SPAM filter] Malaysia has regressed as a nation and this case is proof of that.
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]]> By: HJ Angus http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/12/31/court-rules-herald-free-to-use-the-word-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-200959 HJ Angus Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:25:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6968#comment-200959 whatever word is used for ALLAH why should anyone have the right to ban this or that? Malaysia has regressed as a nation and this case is proof of that. http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2010/01/malaysiakini-on-allah-conundrum-we-can.html whatever word is used for ALLAH why should anyone have the right to ban this or that?
Malaysia has regressed as a nation and this case is proof of that.
http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2010/01/malaysiakini-on-allah-conundrum-we-can.html

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