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	<title>Comments on: Najib should give iron-clad guarantee of personal safety of PI Bala to return to tell the truth of what he knows about C4 murder of Mongolian Altantuya</title>
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		<title>By: veddy.lum74</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198255</link>
		<dc:creator>veddy.lum74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought both pm n dpm said before nobody is above the law?
wat law?
laws of bolehland that excluded BN goons,gomen top servants and their closed families?
this is exactly wat has happenned in this very funny land that the &#039;major race&#039; was easily being tamed by given &#039;tongkat&#039; n sweets,religion convenients that thy will support their leaders even they are murderers!

so,who is below the law?

you n i-lah,stupid!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought both pm n dpm said before nobody is above the law?<br />
wat law?<br />
laws of bolehland that excluded BN goons,gomen top servants and their closed families?<br />
this is exactly wat has happenned in this very funny land that the &#8216;major race&#8217; was easily being tamed by given &#8216;tongkat&#8217; n sweets,religion convenients that thy will support their leaders even they are murderers!</p>
<p>so,who is below the law?</p>
<p>you n i-lah,stupid!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198219</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need 2 C4 Bala, cos that will show Bala is betul
B transparent, fight it out openly in the court</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need 2 C4 Bala, cos that will show Bala is betul<br />
B transparent, fight it out openly in the court</p>
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		<title>By: taiking</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198218</link>
		<dc:creator>taiking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mystery of a declaration, an overnight retraction and a belated attempt to revive the declaration. Surely this must be a good punchline for rowan atkinson&#039;s next movie!

Dr Rojak takes the view that truth or otherwise of the declaration is immaterial for a plus will certainly cancel out a minus, well and truly. Yes, that is indeed so. In fact that was what najib and gang (I am being presumptive here) hoped to see. And more. It does not matter if the cancellation is complete. Whatever the net outcome of the cancellation may be, bala can not and must not be believed. For he cant be blowing hot and cold. Can he?

In the court of law, he would surely stand as an unreliable witness, would he not? This question is crucial. My kris is unsheated. Let me now give the question a good thrust. In law, the answers to such questions are never ever calculated mathematically. (Wheew!) Instead they are evaluated based on evidence and the circumstances of the case. This includes the demeanour of witnesses under x-exam. Lest, I be misunderstood, the same process applies across the board to the evaluation of all legal issues, and not just to the question on reliability.

Further, contradicting evidence do not automatically cancel each other out. A trial judge has the duty to exercise his judicial discretion to pick one over the other. And he must do so. Needless to say, he could reject them both but only after having evaluated the facts and circumstances, found them unrealiable or untrue.

In bala&#039;s case, his explanations are important and relevant evidence which a trial judge would give great weight to. What he said of course would be subject to x-examination. He should expect nothing less than the most gruelling of x-examinations. And replies he gives, from the box and whilst on his feet, could well tell a different story. This is something I dont know and cannot predict. Hence it would be best if I do not speculate. But at a superficial level, though, I am minded to find his explanations believable. It therefore follows that would also be minded to find his declaration credible and his subsequent retraction invalid. It is only proper for me to point out that the presumption I made earlier on is a clear indication of my non-neutral stand on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mystery of a declaration, an overnight retraction and a belated attempt to revive the declaration. Surely this must be a good punchline for rowan atkinson&#8217;s next movie!</p>
<p>Dr Rojak takes the view that truth or otherwise of the declaration is immaterial for a plus will certainly cancel out a minus, well and truly. Yes, that is indeed so. In fact that was what najib and gang (I am being presumptive here) hoped to see. And more. It does not matter if the cancellation is complete. Whatever the net outcome of the cancellation may be, bala can not and must not be believed. For he cant be blowing hot and cold. Can he?</p>
<p>In the court of law, he would surely stand as an unreliable witness, would he not? This question is crucial. My kris is unsheated. Let me now give the question a good thrust. In law, the answers to such questions are never ever calculated mathematically. (Wheew!) Instead they are evaluated based on evidence and the circumstances of the case. This includes the demeanour of witnesses under x-exam. Lest, I be misunderstood, the same process applies across the board to the evaluation of all legal issues, and not just to the question on reliability.</p>
<p>Further, contradicting evidence do not automatically cancel each other out. A trial judge has the duty to exercise his judicial discretion to pick one over the other. And he must do so. Needless to say, he could reject them both but only after having evaluated the facts and circumstances, found them unrealiable or untrue.</p>
<p>In bala&#8217;s case, his explanations are important and relevant evidence which a trial judge would give great weight to. What he said of course would be subject to x-examination. He should expect nothing less than the most gruelling of x-examinations. And replies he gives, from the box and whilst on his feet, could well tell a different story. This is something I dont know and cannot predict. Hence it would be best if I do not speculate. But at a superficial level, though, I am minded to find his explanations believable. It therefore follows that would also be minded to find his declaration credible and his subsequent retraction invalid. It is only proper for me to point out that the presumption I made earlier on is a clear indication of my non-neutral stand on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198217</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need polis n gomen machinery 2 act on behalf of NR n RM
NR n RM, like all citizens, can just sue Bala 4 defamation, if exposure no true 1
B brave lah, sue, don&#039;t let citizens down, citizens &#039;boh bin&#039; now
If no know how, learn fr de Lees lah, 1 phone call or click away
Win de case n give de millions to charity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need polis n gomen machinery 2 act on behalf of NR n RM<br />
NR n RM, like all citizens, can just sue Bala 4 defamation, if exposure no true 1<br />
B brave lah, sue, don&#8217;t let citizens down, citizens &#8216;boh bin&#8217; now<br />
If no know how, learn fr de Lees lah, 1 phone call or click away<br />
Win de case n give de millions to charity</p>
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		<title>By: frankyapp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198213</link>
		<dc:creator>frankyapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beauty was death,replacement murderers sentenced to death,star witness threathened,frightened,paid and secretly bundled of the country and the real murderer or murderers are still around.Now he (bala) re-surfaced,carrying with him pretty lots of evidence,hence creating new interest for people to talk and discuss it.If the police is convienced that Bala is a liar,committed a crime,they should apply for his extradition and re open this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beauty was death,replacement murderers sentenced to death,star witness threathened,frightened,paid and secretly bundled of the country and the real murderer or murderers are still around.Now he (bala) re-surfaced,carrying with him pretty lots of evidence,hence creating new interest for people to talk and discuss it.If the police is convienced that Bala is a liar,committed a crime,they should apply for his extradition and re open this case.</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198199</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In de little red dot, anybody that dares to say anything negative n untrue abt de Lees
will be dealt with swiftly n openly in de court
Ask FEER n Dow Jones how much damages n costs they had paid to de Lees
Y our PM n wife silently terima de feces showered publicly on them
Shame shame 2 de citizens of M&#039;sia
&lt;b&gt;Learn lah, NR n RM, from de Lees&lt;/b&gt;, no shame 1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In de little red dot, anybody that dares to say anything negative n untrue abt de Lees<br />
will be dealt with swiftly n openly in de court<br />
Ask FEER n Dow Jones how much damages n costs they had paid to de Lees<br />
Y our PM n wife silently terima de feces showered publicly on them<br />
Shame shame 2 de citizens of M&#8217;sia<br />
<b>Learn lah, NR n RM, from de Lees</b>, no shame 1</p>
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		<title>By: OrangRojak</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198180</link>
		<dc:creator>OrangRojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dap man, watch your language. People might suspect you are quick to label people foolish because you want them to join your club.
&lt;i&gt;How often have we come across witnesses testifying in court that they were ‘forced’ by the police to make cautioned statements and then insist that the testimony in court is the true version.&lt;/i&gt;
Lots of times.
&lt;i&gt;The courts have accepted such explanations&lt;/i&gt;
I don&#039;t want to go all &#039;wikipedia&#039; on you, but [citation needed]. When did that happen? Do you have a single case to hand that I can upgrade my naivete with? I don&#039;t have much involvement with law - how often does a witness make two conflicting declarations and a court take the witness&#039; word for it that they should accept one as true and the other as false? I imagine half of Malaysia finds A true and B unbelievable in this case, and the other half the opposite. How are you going to satisfy both halves?

I don&#039;t know how I can make this any clearer: it doesn&#039;t matter what each of us individually believe, what matters is what a court finds credible. My suspicion is a neutral court would reject Bala&#039;s testimony on the grounds of (provable) unreliability, unless it can be &lt;i&gt;proven&lt;/i&gt; that the second SD was made under duress. Remember that his SDs constitute &lt;i&gt;evidence&lt;/i&gt; of his unreliability. Not only do must of us suspect that Malaysia&#039;s courts may not be entirely neutral in a case such as this, but proving interference in the second SD, rather than proving the existence of many, many coincidental goings-on will be very difficult, it seems to me.

&lt;b&gt;k1980&lt;/b&gt; - not the Paris thing again! What makes you think the alleged photo was in Paris? Did you read my blog article about the Asia Sentinel photos? It seems a lot of people jumped to &#039;Paris&#039; because of the subs:

http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2009/03/12/where-in-the-world-was-altantuya/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dap man, watch your language. People might suspect you are quick to label people foolish because you want them to join your club.<br />
<i>How often have we come across witnesses testifying in court that they were ‘forced’ by the police to make cautioned statements and then insist that the testimony in court is the true version.</i><br />
Lots of times.<br />
<i>The courts have accepted such explanations</i><br />
I don&#8217;t want to go all &#8216;wikipedia&#8217; on you, but [citation needed]. When did that happen? Do you have a single case to hand that I can upgrade my naivete with? I don&#8217;t have much involvement with law &#8211; how often does a witness make two conflicting declarations and a court take the witness&#8217; word for it that they should accept one as true and the other as false? I imagine half of Malaysia finds A true and B unbelievable in this case, and the other half the opposite. How are you going to satisfy both halves?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how I can make this any clearer: it doesn&#8217;t matter what each of us individually believe, what matters is what a court finds credible. My suspicion is a neutral court would reject Bala&#8217;s testimony on the grounds of (provable) unreliability, unless it can be <i>proven</i> that the second SD was made under duress. Remember that his SDs constitute <i>evidence</i> of his unreliability. Not only do must of us suspect that Malaysia&#8217;s courts may not be entirely neutral in a case such as this, but proving interference in the second SD, rather than proving the existence of many, many coincidental goings-on will be very difficult, it seems to me.</p>
<p><b>k1980</b> &#8211; not the Paris thing again! What makes you think the alleged photo was in Paris? Did you read my blog article about the Asia Sentinel photos? It seems a lot of people jumped to &#8216;Paris&#8217; because of the subs:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2009/03/12/where-in-the-world-was-altantuya/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2009/03/12/where-in-the-world-was-altantuya/</a></p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198177</link>
		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real pity Altan did not pass to him the photo of her with Bagin and Jib in Paris., else Bala would be getting not RM50,000 but RM50 million a month from you-know-who.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real pity Altan did not pass to him the photo of her with Bagin and Jib in Paris., else Bala would be getting not RM50,000 but RM50 million a month from you-know-who&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: baochingtian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198176</link>
		<dc:creator>baochingtian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... if Bala chose not to send evidences to RPK...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; if Bala chose not to send evidences to RPK&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: baochingtian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198175</link>
		<dc:creator>baochingtian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People can die overseas too even if they don&#039;t come back to home land - accidents, food posioning, commit suicide, street fighting, etc.
Bala just has to take care of himself and keep whatever evidence in somewhere so when he somehow disappeared, all these evidence shall be uncovered to get to the truth of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People can die overseas too even if they don&#8217;t come back to home land &#8211; accidents, food posioning, commit suicide, street fighting, etc.<br />
Bala just has to take care of himself and keep whatever evidence in somewhere so when he somehow disappeared, all these evidence shall be uncovered to get to the truth of it.</p>
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		<title>By: baochingtian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198174</link>
		<dc:creator>baochingtian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about getting dr Pornthip&#039;s diagnosis on the remains of al-tuya?
How about getting CNN to probe and uncover whatever facts available from bala for readers to solve the case like the X-file?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about getting dr Pornthip&#8217;s diagnosis on the remains of al-tuya?<br />
How about getting CNN to probe and uncover whatever facts available from bala for readers to solve the case like the X-file?</p>
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		<title>By: Jong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198172</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, under moderation?!  ..Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, under moderation?!  ..Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Jong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198171</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with  #12 ablastine, 100%.

Bala has made this whole episode public and the public is entitled to comment, query and criticise whatever his motives are.  One question -  Would he have resurfaced had  &#039;they&#039; not played him out on the promised RM5 million? 
 
Please people, Bala was an ex-Special Branch, let&#039;s not assume he is not bright neither are those around him dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with  #12 ablastine, 100%.</p>
<p>Bala has made this whole episode public and the public is entitled to comment, query and criticise whatever his motives are.  One question &#8211;  Would he have resurfaced had  &#8216;they&#8217; not played him out on the promised RM5 million? </p>
<p>Please people, Bala was an ex-Special Branch, let&#8217;s not assume he is not bright neither are those around him dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if Bala is ever brought to court as a witness, his testimony would be thrown out as having &quot;no relevant value&quot; to Altan&#039;s murder. Bolehland&#039;s judiciary knows who is holding their ricebowls, and it&#039;s not YB Lim KS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if Bala is ever brought to court as a witness, his testimony would be thrown out as having &#8220;no relevant value&#8221; to Altan&#8217;s murder. Bolehland&#8217;s judiciary knows who is holding their ricebowls, and it&#8217;s not YB Lim KS.</p>
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		<title>By: Dap man</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198169</link>
		<dc:creator>Dap man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OrangRojak,
Your argument on the rejecting of Bala&#039;s credibility  is too simplistic and naive.
How often have we come across witnesses testifying in court that they were &#039;forced&#039; by the police to make  cautioned statements and then insist that the testimony in court is the true version.
The courts have accepted such explanatios and thrown out the Cautioned Statements.

In this case, one must be a damn fool to throw out Bala&#039;s &#039;value as a witness&#039; just because he has made two conflicting SDs.

The events that followed his first SD - threats, deportation, bribery and more threats - will convince even a pea-brained that Bala can be trusted and he speaks the TRUTH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OrangRojak,<br />
Your argument on the rejecting of Bala&#8217;s credibility  is too simplistic and naive.<br />
How often have we come across witnesses testifying in court that they were &#8216;forced&#8217; by the police to make  cautioned statements and then insist that the testimony in court is the true version.<br />
The courts have accepted such explanatios and thrown out the Cautioned Statements.</p>
<p>In this case, one must be a damn fool to throw out Bala&#8217;s &#8216;value as a witness&#8217; just because he has made two conflicting SDs.</p>
<p>The events that followed his first SD &#8211; threats, deportation, bribery and more threats &#8211; will convince even a pea-brained that Bala can be trusted and he speaks the TRUTH.</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198168</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bala, O, Bala
We, the citizens of M&#039;sia, are very ANGRY with you
For smearing feces on our PM n his wife
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How dare you made these exposures n got paid for them
We demand justice
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MCA, MIC, Gerakan cronies, Y so quiet?
MSM editors, Y so quiet? Report n challenge Bala&#039;s exposures
&lt;i&gt;We want de truth&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bala, O, Bala<br />
We, the citizens of M&#8217;sia, are very ANGRY with you<br />
For smearing feces on our PM n his wife<br />
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How dare you made these exposures n got paid for them<br />
We demand justice<br />
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MCA, MIC, Gerakan cronies, Y so quiet?<br />
MSM editors, Y so quiet? Report n challenge Bala&#8217;s exposures<br />
<i>We want de truth</i></p>
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		<title>By: rabbit</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198166</link>
		<dc:creator>rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So funny right!! where got cat taking care of fish? yummy yummy sure finish it ASAP one lah. he should no protect by Malaysia gov, he should protect by Mongolia gov. is between country to country now, not personnel issue now. PKR can do it, why not throw this fire stone to Mongolia gov? let them settle, and we only support at the back. let see how the PM fall from the hoarse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So funny right!! where got cat taking care of fish? yummy yummy sure finish it ASAP one lah. he should no protect by Malaysia gov, he should protect by Mongolia gov. is between country to country now, not personnel issue now. PKR can do it, why not throw this fire stone to Mongolia gov? let them settle, and we only support at the back. let see how the PM fall from the hoarse.</p>
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		<title>By: OrangRojak</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198165</link>
		<dc:creator>OrangRojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Is this the basis of your argument?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;
Exactly! As far as we know, there&#039;s no evidence, only one witness. There is evidence (the two conflicting SDs) that the witness is unreliable.

Credibility is like virginity, only without the option of surgery to get it back. If someone asks you to &quot;lie for a few minutes only&quot; or &quot;it&#039;s only one lie&quot;, you have to consider the long-term consequence of being a known liar.

Regardless of what we believe to be the truth, I would say Bala is now of very little danger to anyone, and in very little danger himself. He has been effectively neutralised, so far as legal action (the only kind anyone might fear) is concerned. He probably knows this. How old is he? if he&#039;s under 40, 5 million is not a lot of money. Have you ever worked out how much money you&#039;ll need to have a comfortable life for 50 more years? It&#039;s a lot! If he&#039;s staring down the barrel of a gun and considering a life &#039;on the run&#039; 5 million is nothing. He claims to have spent half a million in the last couple of years, doesn&#039;t he?

Perhaps I&#039;m not singing quite in tune with the choir. While Bala may have some residual political and commercial value, he seems to me to have lost his value as a witness. Am I right or wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Is this the basis of your argument?</i>&#8221;<br />
Exactly! As far as we know, there&#8217;s no evidence, only one witness. There is evidence (the two conflicting SDs) that the witness is unreliable.</p>
<p>Credibility is like virginity, only without the option of surgery to get it back. If someone asks you to &#8220;lie for a few minutes only&#8221; or &#8220;it&#8217;s only one lie&#8221;, you have to consider the long-term consequence of being a known liar.</p>
<p>Regardless of what we believe to be the truth, I would say Bala is now of very little danger to anyone, and in very little danger himself. He has been effectively neutralised, so far as legal action (the only kind anyone might fear) is concerned. He probably knows this. How old is he? if he&#8217;s under 40, 5 million is not a lot of money. Have you ever worked out how much money you&#8217;ll need to have a comfortable life for 50 more years? It&#8217;s a lot! If he&#8217;s staring down the barrel of a gun and considering a life &#8216;on the run&#8217; 5 million is nothing. He claims to have spent half a million in the last couple of years, doesn&#8217;t he?</p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m not singing quite in tune with the choir. While Bala may have some residual political and commercial value, he seems to me to have lost his value as a witness. Am I right or wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Najis is the LAW in Malaysia! He thinks Malaysia belongs to him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Najis is the LAW in Malaysia! He thinks Malaysia belongs to him!</p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/20/najib-should-give-iron-clad-guarantee-of-personal-safety-of-pi-balasubramaniam-for-him-to-return-to-the-country-to-tell-the-truth-of-what-he-knows-about-the-c4-murder-of-mongolian-altantuya-shaariibuu/comment-page-1/#comment-198161</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when have Najib ever do anything that even remotely improves fundamental process?  Najib is all about improving appearances, criticism, the spin-doctoring...

Take Kota Siputih as an example. He should have told the election commision NOT to appeal.  The fact of the matter is if the High Court says the state assembly did not behave well enough, then THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR APPEAL.. Its about setting a higher standard of behaviour and what he says is that if it does not help him or hurt him enough with spin-doctoring, he will let them continue in their bad behaviour...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when have Najib ever do anything that even remotely improves fundamental process?  Najib is all about improving appearances, criticism, the spin-doctoring&#8230;</p>
<p>Take Kota Siputih as an example. He should have told the election commision NOT to appeal.  The fact of the matter is if the High Court says the state assembly did not behave well enough, then THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR APPEAL.. Its about setting a higher standard of behaviour and what he says is that if it does not help him or hurt him enough with spin-doctoring, he will let them continue in their bad behaviour&#8230;</p>
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