<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Seedless Slogans</title>
	<atom:link href="http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/</link>
	<description>for Malaysia</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:53:01 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: jamalmalikslumdog</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197871</link>
		<dc:creator>jamalmalikslumdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197871</guid>
		<description>So much cynicism&#039;s. It just goes to show how far down that hell hole BN has brought us all. 

The Good Lord must be wondering why Msians keep on voting them in. I suppose fools never learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much cynicism&#8217;s. It just goes to show how far down that hell hole BN has brought us all. </p>
<p>The Good Lord must be wondering why Msians keep on voting them in. I suppose fools never learn.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ekompute</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197861</link>
		<dc:creator>ekompute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197861</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-197769&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-197769&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ktteokt&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
          If 1 MALAYSIA is to materialize, do you know how much the Bumiputras have to give up? Do you know how much UMNO stand to lose? A stupid slogan like this is misleading! Is UMNO and the Bumiputras ready to forego their “special rights”? Otherwise how the hell can 1 MALAYSIA be achieved!!!!!! Having the bumi and non-bumi differentiation has already divided Malaysia into TWO!
         &lt;/blockquote&gt;

1Malaysia, by the way, is just an advertising gimmick for &quot;Wan Malaysia&quot;. Why are you reading so much into that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="#commentbody-197769"><p>
<strong><a href="#comment-197769" rel="nofollow">ktteokt</a> :</strong><br />
          If 1 MALAYSIA is to materialize, do you know how much the Bumiputras have to give up? Do you know how much UMNO stand to lose? A stupid slogan like this is misleading! Is UMNO and the Bumiputras ready to forego their “special rights”? Otherwise how the hell can 1 MALAYSIA be achieved!!!!!! Having the bumi and non-bumi differentiation has already divided Malaysia into TWO!
         </p></blockquote>
<p>1Malaysia, by the way, is just an advertising gimmick for &#8220;Wan Malaysia&#8221;. Why are you reading so much into that?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jaswant</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaswant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197860</guid>
		<description>&quot;Oh, now another pseudo (and long winded) philosopher is saying many here do not understand Augustine. Look, the pseudo philosopher is the only swine here.&quot; nincompoop

A swine calling another swine??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh, now another pseudo (and long winded) philosopher is saying many here do not understand Augustine. Look, the pseudo philosopher is the only swine here.&#8221; nincompoop</p>
<p>A swine calling another swine??</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jaswant</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197858</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaswant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197858</guid>
		<description>Since when has a nincompoop been appointed spokesman for DAP??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when has a nincompoop been appointed spokesman for DAP??</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: taiking</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197857</link>
		<dc:creator>taiking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197857</guid>
		<description>Boy. Is he, the author above, attempting to randomise some random events?

But as near as I could get, I think najib certainly is. Or in more pratical terms, he is attempting to touch the universe with a long pole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy. Is he, the author above, attempting to randomise some random events?</p>
<p>But as near as I could get, I think najib certainly is. Or in more pratical terms, he is attempting to touch the universe with a long pole.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tenaciousB</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197814</link>
		<dc:creator>tenaciousB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197814</guid>
		<description>None of all you mentioned is even faintly available in malaysia, not before, not now and perhaps never unless BN is dethroned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of all you mentioned is even faintly available in malaysia, not before, not now and perhaps never unless BN is dethroned.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197812</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197812</guid>
		<description>Vision 2020 is not likely to be achieved. In order to become a developed nation by 2020, Malaysia will need to have GDP growth of 9% every year from now to 2020. Practically impossible given the state of Malaysia’s economy.//katdog

Even if sustaining high GDP growth is difficult, it is not the sole measure of developed status.  In fact, I would venture to say that if macroeconomic policies are right, achieving GDP growth would be the easier among the measures to attain developed status.   Developed status is not single dimensional.  It is not just based on income and material wealth. Is Kuwait a developed nation then? Is Brunei a developed country?  Even Korea, an OECD country, is hard to be defined or classified as a developed nation.  More importantly, a developed nation must portray human development, decency, good governance, free information flows, civil liberty and equity, and free and fair contest for political power through ideas and the ballot boxes.  It must exclude the tyranny of majority, abuse of power, ever impending military or police intervention, bigotry, discrimination, marginalisation, and exploitation.  Don’t let them use one single measure, the GDP, to fool us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vision 2020 is not likely to be achieved. In order to become a developed nation by 2020, Malaysia will need to have GDP growth of 9% every year from now to 2020. Practically impossible given the state of Malaysia’s economy.//katdog</p>
<p>Even if sustaining high GDP growth is difficult, it is not the sole measure of developed status.  In fact, I would venture to say that if macroeconomic policies are right, achieving GDP growth would be the easier among the measures to attain developed status.   Developed status is not single dimensional.  It is not just based on income and material wealth. Is Kuwait a developed nation then? Is Brunei a developed country?  Even Korea, an OECD country, is hard to be defined or classified as a developed nation.  More importantly, a developed nation must portray human development, decency, good governance, free information flows, civil liberty and equity, and free and fair contest for political power through ideas and the ballot boxes.  It must exclude the tyranny of majority, abuse of power, ever impending military or police intervention, bigotry, discrimination, marginalisation, and exploitation.  Don’t let them use one single measure, the GDP, to fool us.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: katdog</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197810</link>
		<dc:creator>katdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197810</guid>
		<description>Ha ha! Everyone forgotten about the VISION 2020 slogan?

Vision 2020 is not likely to be achieved. In order to become a developed nation by 2020, Malaysia will need to have GDP growth of 9% every year from now to 2020. Practically impossible given the state of Malaysia&#039;s economy.

So much for the grand deluded dreams of Dr. M. But Dr. M is quickly trying to blame PR and political instability as the reason why we will miss the goals of Vision 2020. Talk about passing the buck. 

You can&#039;t be a good leader if you cannot evaluate your decisions and its consequences honestly (i.e. a king that only wants to hear good news will never be a good king). And Malaysians voted this joker for 22 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha! Everyone forgotten about the VISION 2020 slogan?</p>
<p>Vision 2020 is not likely to be achieved. In order to become a developed nation by 2020, Malaysia will need to have GDP growth of 9% every year from now to 2020. Practically impossible given the state of Malaysia&#8217;s economy.</p>
<p>So much for the grand deluded dreams of Dr. M. But Dr. M is quickly trying to blame PR and political instability as the reason why we will miss the goals of Vision 2020. Talk about passing the buck. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t be a good leader if you cannot evaluate your decisions and its consequences honestly (i.e. a king that only wants to hear good news will never be a good king). And Malaysians voted this joker for 22 years.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lkt-56</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197809</link>
		<dc:creator>lkt-56</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197809</guid>
		<description>///Barren lands will turn into vibrant ecosystems, polluted rivers will become pristine waterways and the air will be ours to breathe deep.///
If &quot;1Malaysia&quot; has a clear vision and uttered by a charismatic leader it just may fire our imagination instead of the robotic show of one finger pointing in the empty air we see on television. No passion! Just a forced false smile...

When the &quot;Reformasi&quot; slogan was shouted, it became a war cry! Deep passion for changed was fired up in the people&#039;s mind and the leader... Anwar Ibrahim who leads the war cry... close your eyes for a moment... can you visualize the difference?

Today this war cry has borne fruit. BN lost its two thirds majority. Malaysia is moving relentless.y towards a two party system. Communal politics is shunned by most Malaysians. Corruption is no longer tolerated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>///Barren lands will turn into vibrant ecosystems, polluted rivers will become pristine waterways and the air will be ours to breathe deep.///<br />
If &#8220;1Malaysia&#8221; has a clear vision and uttered by a charismatic leader it just may fire our imagination instead of the robotic show of one finger pointing in the empty air we see on television. No passion! Just a forced false smile&#8230;</p>
<p>When the &#8220;Reformasi&#8221; slogan was shouted, it became a war cry! Deep passion for changed was fired up in the people&#8217;s mind and the leader&#8230; Anwar Ibrahim who leads the war cry&#8230; close your eyes for a moment&#8230; can you visualize the difference?</p>
<p>Today this war cry has borne fruit. BN lost its two thirds majority. Malaysia is moving relentless.y towards a two party system. Communal politics is shunned by most Malaysians. Corruption is no longer tolerated.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sallang</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197806</link>
		<dc:creator>Sallang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197806</guid>
		<description>&quot;Reformasi&quot;
&#039;After more than ten years from the first clenched fist of Reformasi, we see that many associated with this movement struggling with basic issues like unethical party hopping, corruption, mediocrity and the propagation of distrust among the ethnically divided fragile cooperation. Racial and communal political patriotism and championing are still deeply rooted in many within this movement.&#039;

PR, what are we waiting for? Sow the Good seeds Now!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reformasi&#8221;<br />
&#8216;After more than ten years from the first clenched fist of Reformasi, we see that many associated with this movement struggling with basic issues like unethical party hopping, corruption, mediocrity and the propagation of distrust among the ethnically divided fragile cooperation. Racial and communal political patriotism and championing are still deeply rooted in many within this movement.&#8217;</p>
<p>PR, what are we waiting for? Sow the Good seeds Now!.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: House Victim</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197805</link>
		<dc:creator>House Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197805</guid>
		<description>#14 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 15 November 2009 - 7:25 am

Thanks the comment. 

Should &quot;POLITICIANS without Roots? Without Hearts? &quot; be at least equally important to be attended as the &quot;Seedless Fruit&quot;?
-------------------------------------

Vision will be illusion if one do not see from what they have to start with. and, to be guided by a FAIR heart and Rational mind.

It should be best from their own Profession, if they are one. If they dare not or cannot tell what wrong or drawback in their professional, start the Reform from there, should they start Slogan for the overall?

For a Legal Profession, with all that had happened in the past 50 years, should one look into
1. The Constitution and Laws? 
2. Can Democracy be there when these were laid out with obvious loopholes?
3. Why those practicing and administrating laws do not stick to Rules and Regulations? To such an extent of lawyers and Judges.

To an area where Professionalism and Ethnic count most is going &quot;wild&quot;, should it be ignored and Talk about Visions? 

 1. Should lawyers (including very senior) puff their clients that the Developer has not obligation to obtain Authority Consent during Transfer of Strata Title?
2. Should Bar Council explained on behalf of the Respondent when he was puffing, paid and puff to have done the job but obviously not done?
3. Should Bar Council tell the client to get legal advice instead of telling what is wrong? 
4. Should the Disciplinary Board object to provide the Complainant a copy of the Explanation? Tell the Complainant No Merit with hearing or investigation when documents shown clearly the Respondent was puffing?
5. Should DB provide a list of the DB panel as a copy of the DB minutes in deciding the complaint?
6. When lawyers are engaged for a court case, should they puff the client saying no counterclaim with an irrelevant court case?
Denying the allegation without rebutting the particulars as Defense?
7. Should court allow Lawyers&#039; application with false statement without going through the points? And, the notes of the proceeding cannot be found after an order was issued?
8. Should court allow lawyers of both parties to &quot;play concert&quot; to drag on the case but threaten the clients with Order 35 after 2-3 years when the lawyer of the clients did not attend court throughout the period and assaulted the clients?
9. Should the court corned the clients to stand for trial when these happened?
 10. Can the lawyer voluntary discharge himself without filing Application of Discharge? Yet the Court refused and dragged on NOT telling the lawyer to file the application of Discharge, even it had been promised to do so for couple of times? Judges after Judges, this continues!!
11. Those judges are in the Commissioner of the Court even after complained and transferred!!
12. Lawyers after lawyers got paid and no work!!
13. Court gave not reply or reply not even to one of the 8-9 points of a letter.

From the mouths of senior lawyers:
1. Condo and Apartment has no difference!
2. Cheating can only be handled by Police.
3, Same case but to be in three different suit to different parties.
4.&quot;The plaintiff was my pupil&quot;  &quot;You can go abroad and the Court cannot act onto you&quot;  - a senior member of DB!

Are these area where ETHNICS and Professionalism count most?

Police dragged, AG silent, PCB dare not even to confirm the receipt of the Complaint, including the Directors!!

SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT SLOGANS FOR THE FUTURE OF MALAYSIA??
Politics is tempting!!
&quot;Give him a Chance&quot;!! Datuship came around!!

PLEASE GIVE ME SLOGANS FOR THE LEGAL SECTOR!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 15 November 2009 &#8211; 7:25 am</p>
<p>Thanks the comment. </p>
<p>Should &#8220;POLITICIANS without Roots? Without Hearts? &#8221; be at least equally important to be attended as the &#8220;Seedless Fruit&#8221;?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Vision will be illusion if one do not see from what they have to start with. and, to be guided by a FAIR heart and Rational mind.</p>
<p>It should be best from their own Profession, if they are one. If they dare not or cannot tell what wrong or drawback in their professional, start the Reform from there, should they start Slogan for the overall?</p>
<p>For a Legal Profession, with all that had happened in the past 50 years, should one look into<br />
1. The Constitution and Laws?<br />
2. Can Democracy be there when these were laid out with obvious loopholes?<br />
3. Why those practicing and administrating laws do not stick to Rules and Regulations? To such an extent of lawyers and Judges.</p>
<p>To an area where Professionalism and Ethnic count most is going &#8220;wild&#8221;, should it be ignored and Talk about Visions? </p>
<p> 1. Should lawyers (including very senior) puff their clients that the Developer has not obligation to obtain Authority Consent during Transfer of Strata Title?<br />
2. Should Bar Council explained on behalf of the Respondent when he was puffing, paid and puff to have done the job but obviously not done?<br />
3. Should Bar Council tell the client to get legal advice instead of telling what is wrong?<br />
4. Should the Disciplinary Board object to provide the Complainant a copy of the Explanation? Tell the Complainant No Merit with hearing or investigation when documents shown clearly the Respondent was puffing?<br />
5. Should DB provide a list of the DB panel as a copy of the DB minutes in deciding the complaint?<br />
6. When lawyers are engaged for a court case, should they puff the client saying no counterclaim with an irrelevant court case?<br />
Denying the allegation without rebutting the particulars as Defense?<br />
7. Should court allow Lawyers&#8217; application with false statement without going through the points? And, the notes of the proceeding cannot be found after an order was issued?<br />
8. Should court allow lawyers of both parties to &#8220;play concert&#8221; to drag on the case but threaten the clients with Order 35 after 2-3 years when the lawyer of the clients did not attend court throughout the period and assaulted the clients?<br />
9. Should the court corned the clients to stand for trial when these happened?<br />
 10. Can the lawyer voluntary discharge himself without filing Application of Discharge? Yet the Court refused and dragged on NOT telling the lawyer to file the application of Discharge, even it had been promised to do so for couple of times? Judges after Judges, this continues!!<br />
11. Those judges are in the Commissioner of the Court even after complained and transferred!!<br />
12. Lawyers after lawyers got paid and no work!!<br />
13. Court gave not reply or reply not even to one of the 8-9 points of a letter.</p>
<p>From the mouths of senior lawyers:<br />
1. Condo and Apartment has no difference!<br />
2. Cheating can only be handled by Police.<br />
3, Same case but to be in three different suit to different parties.<br />
4.&#8221;The plaintiff was my pupil&#8221;  &#8220;You can go abroad and the Court cannot act onto you&#8221;  &#8211; a senior member of DB!</p>
<p>Are these area where ETHNICS and Professionalism count most?</p>
<p>Police dragged, AG silent, PCB dare not even to confirm the receipt of the Complaint, including the Directors!!</p>
<p>SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT SLOGANS FOR THE FUTURE OF MALAYSIA??<br />
Politics is tempting!!<br />
&#8220;Give him a Chance&#8221;!! Datuship came around!!</p>
<p>PLEASE GIVE ME SLOGANS FOR THE LEGAL SECTOR!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197804</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197804</guid>
		<description>I didn&#039;t say &#039;many&#039; here do not understand Augustine but I suppose there is nothing here to stop anyone from spontaneously taking on the hat to wear it when it fits exactly his confused head!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say &#8216;many&#8217; here do not understand Augustine but I suppose there is nothing here to stop anyone from spontaneously taking on the hat to wear it when it fits exactly his confused head!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197803</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197803</guid>
		<description>One more thing: how can there be Malaysians for Malaysia when there is no Malaysia for Malaysians? 

Injustice is a very painful thing.  Get the basis right first; the rest will fall in place.  Talking lots of philological cok only confuse more people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing: how can there be Malaysians for Malaysia when there is no Malaysia for Malaysians? </p>
<p>Injustice is a very painful thing.  Get the basis right first; the rest will fall in place.  Talking lots of philological cok only confuse more people.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197802</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197802</guid>
		<description>Oh, now another pseudo (and long winded) philosopher is saying many here do not understand Augustine.  Look, the pseudo philosopher is the only swine here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, now another pseudo (and long winded) philosopher is saying many here do not understand Augustine.  Look, the pseudo philosopher is the only swine here.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197801</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197801</guid>
		<description>One of the great benefits of Internet is that it opens limitless opportunities for freelance writers to express their thoughts including as regards to politics. 

Traditionally and mostly political writings are non fiction. They concentrate on (primarily) communicating information and presenting facts and arguments in factual manner. 

Metaphors, though not entirely absent, are sparingly used. That is the straighforward non fiction style of Mainstream Newspapers/on line news bulletins like Malaysiakini/The MalaysiaInsider/RPK’s MalaysiaToday and even Saudara LKS blog here. 

Augustine Anthony is lawyer, and one expects his training to incline him to write in factual narrative style of non fictyion – like a reporter. 

But lo he does not. He likens empty political slogans to “seedless fruits”, that without seeds permit no further “continuity” by way of regeneration of fruit bearing activity after the initial shout!. He talks of the transition from ‘Malaysia for Malaysians to Malaysians for Malaysia’ as moving towards a higher platform of national ‘collective conscience’ described as “barren lands will turn into vibrant ecosystems, polluted rivers will become pristine waterways and the air will be ours to breathe deep.”

The prosaic and the unimaginative cast in a colorless and mundane mould of mindset will wonder aloud in exasperation what has ecology or the ecosystem anything to do with politics!

Thus missing the central point here - that the writer’s genre of writing is creative nonfiction, which as a style, is still relatively young but fast gaining popularity.

Creative non fiction purposively blurs the lines between fiction and non fiction.

It tries to balance presentation of facts in straightforward prose against equal attention to the writing craft heavily dosed and embellished with imageries similes and metaphors. 

It attempts to shape non fiction writing of politics in a way that reads (interestingly) like fiction or literary piece.

It may not occur to Augustine Anthony but sometimes by his style his message becomes, by his own description, “seedless fruits”!
 
Anthony should heed &quot;The Sermon on the Mount&quot; by Jesus: “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.” - Matthew, Chap. 7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the great benefits of Internet is that it opens limitless opportunities for freelance writers to express their thoughts including as regards to politics. </p>
<p>Traditionally and mostly political writings are non fiction. They concentrate on (primarily) communicating information and presenting facts and arguments in factual manner. </p>
<p>Metaphors, though not entirely absent, are sparingly used. That is the straighforward non fiction style of Mainstream Newspapers/on line news bulletins like Malaysiakini/The MalaysiaInsider/RPK’s MalaysiaToday and even Saudara LKS blog here. </p>
<p>Augustine Anthony is lawyer, and one expects his training to incline him to write in factual narrative style of non fictyion – like a reporter. </p>
<p>But lo he does not. He likens empty political slogans to “seedless fruits”, that without seeds permit no further “continuity” by way of regeneration of fruit bearing activity after the initial shout!. He talks of the transition from ‘Malaysia for Malaysians to Malaysians for Malaysia’ as moving towards a higher platform of national ‘collective conscience’ described as “barren lands will turn into vibrant ecosystems, polluted rivers will become pristine waterways and the air will be ours to breathe deep.”</p>
<p>The prosaic and the unimaginative cast in a colorless and mundane mould of mindset will wonder aloud in exasperation what has ecology or the ecosystem anything to do with politics!</p>
<p>Thus missing the central point here &#8211; that the writer’s genre of writing is creative nonfiction, which as a style, is still relatively young but fast gaining popularity.</p>
<p>Creative non fiction purposively blurs the lines between fiction and non fiction.</p>
<p>It tries to balance presentation of facts in straightforward prose against equal attention to the writing craft heavily dosed and embellished with imageries similes and metaphors. </p>
<p>It attempts to shape non fiction writing of politics in a way that reads (interestingly) like fiction or literary piece.</p>
<p>It may not occur to Augustine Anthony but sometimes by his style his message becomes, by his own description, “seedless fruits”!</p>
<p>Anthony should heed &#8220;The Sermon on the Mount&#8221; by Jesus: “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.” &#8211; Matthew, Chap. 7.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: alaneth</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197797</link>
		<dc:creator>alaneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197797</guid>
		<description>The best slogan :
&quot;CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN&quot; has changed a Republican nation to a Democrat.

Also suitable for Malaysia&#039;s transition from BN to PR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best slogan :<br />
&#8220;CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN&#8221; has changed a Republican nation to a Democrat.</p>
<p>Also suitable for Malaysia&#8217;s transition from BN to PR.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tenaciousB</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197796</link>
		<dc:creator>tenaciousB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197796</guid>
		<description>Furthermore, if Nah-cheap preaches 1Malaysia he should practice it. That would mean, immediately 
abolish race based everything! If not, stop being a hypocrite!

Anyways, it&#039;s impossible for him to implement 1Malaysia, it&#039;s nothing but a daylight deception to kampung folks. The typical BN motto&#039;s that are baseless and senseless and also objectiveless. It works on a TV serial but not in real life. Someone do us a favour, throw a pie on his face!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore, if Nah-cheap preaches 1Malaysia he should practice it. That would mean, immediately<br />
abolish race based everything! If not, stop being a hypocrite!</p>
<p>Anyways, it&#8217;s impossible for him to implement 1Malaysia, it&#8217;s nothing but a daylight deception to kampung folks. The typical BN motto&#8217;s that are baseless and senseless and also objectiveless. It works on a TV serial but not in real life. Someone do us a favour, throw a pie on his face!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tenaciousB</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197795</link>
		<dc:creator>tenaciousB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197795</guid>
		<description>Augustine is a typical role model malaysian who trusts what the mainstream media puts on his plate everyday and which embodies the elements of thoughtlessness, mindlessness and passivity.
He&#039;s the regular joe who&#039;ll do the job without asking any questions. LOL

yep i agree with the fact that all motto&#039;s that BN comes up with are eronneous. Wawasan 2020 was such a brain bashing term coinned by TDM and we know for real it ain&#039;t gonna happen. 1malaysia is an attempt at not having a deadline and thus not called 1malaysia2020 coz once again ain&#039;t a reality.

All this media hype(well BN owns the media) is once again a grave deception. i pity bagan pinang folks, it must feel like they sold their souls to the devil. anyways, time to move on, those who have sensible prospective views about their future in this country would do away with the repugnant BN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Augustine is a typical role model malaysian who trusts what the mainstream media puts on his plate everyday and which embodies the elements of thoughtlessness, mindlessness and passivity.<br />
He&#8217;s the regular joe who&#8217;ll do the job without asking any questions. LOL</p>
<p>yep i agree with the fact that all motto&#8217;s that BN comes up with are eronneous. Wawasan 2020 was such a brain bashing term coinned by TDM and we know for real it ain&#8217;t gonna happen. 1malaysia is an attempt at not having a deadline and thus not called 1malaysia2020 coz once again ain&#8217;t a reality.</p>
<p>All this media hype(well BN owns the media) is once again a grave deception. i pity bagan pinang folks, it must feel like they sold their souls to the devil. anyways, time to move on, those who have sensible prospective views about their future in this country would do away with the repugnant BN.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197792</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197792</guid>
		<description>//Not possible? Think again.// Augustine

I don&#039;t even know what to think, so what is there to think again?  Augustine, you are trying to be philosophical for nothing.  

Slogan is an idea, a vision.  It is meaningful to the one who pens it and it is meaningful to supporters who can relate to such an idea or vision.  Surely not all would agree to a slogan due to our differences and intersts.  

A slogan may not work because many disagree with it.  Even if a slogan is agreeable by most, it may still not work when the intent of the slogan is skewed beyond recognition.  For example, when the slogan talks about “change”, are the people promoting it genuinely want change.  Similarly, when our PM promotes 1Malaysia, do we really understand his intent?  Alternatively, is his intent of 1Malaysia meant of everyone as defined by Augustine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//Not possible? Think again.// Augustine</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even know what to think, so what is there to think again?  Augustine, you are trying to be philosophical for nothing.  </p>
<p>Slogan is an idea, a vision.  It is meaningful to the one who pens it and it is meaningful to supporters who can relate to such an idea or vision.  Surely not all would agree to a slogan due to our differences and intersts.  </p>
<p>A slogan may not work because many disagree with it.  Even if a slogan is agreeable by most, it may still not work when the intent of the slogan is skewed beyond recognition.  For example, when the slogan talks about “change”, are the people promoting it genuinely want change.  Similarly, when our PM promotes 1Malaysia, do we really understand his intent?  Alternatively, is his intent of 1Malaysia meant of everyone as defined by Augustine?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Thor</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/11/14/seedless-slogans/comment-page-1/#comment-197790</link>
		<dc:creator>Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=6598#comment-197790</guid>
		<description>Slogan are just slogan and it doesn&#039;t meant anything.
Mahathir came up with &quot;wawasan 2020&quot;, and we&#039;re going backwards.
Pak Lah came up with &quot;Islam Hadari&quot;, and it never worked.
As for that &quot;Satu Malaysia&quot;, It&#039;s just a only fart!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slogan are just slogan and it doesn&#8217;t meant anything.<br />
Mahathir came up with &#8220;wawasan 2020&#8243;, and we&#8217;re going backwards.<br />
Pak Lah came up with &#8220;Islam Hadari&#8221;, and it never worked.<br />
As for that &#8220;Satu Malaysia&#8221;, It&#8217;s just a only fart!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

