The Bagan Pinang by-election is another “no winner” for Barisan Nasional (BN) for the second consecutive day after the MCA Extraordinary General Meeting (EGM) yesterday which booted out the two MCA contenders, MCA President Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat and the MCA Deputy President Datuk Seri Dr. Chua Soi Lek.
If the BN candidate Tan Sri Mohd Isa Samad loses in the Bagan Pinang by-election or is returned with a smaller majority than the 2,333-vote won by the previous BN incumbent in the general elections last year, it is a clear defeat for Umno and BN as the by-election will be a mini-political tsunami by itself.
But even if Isa wins the Bagan Pinang by-election with a bigger majority than last year (and Isa is boasting about a 5,000-6,000 majority), it is an even bigger defeat for Umno and Barisan Nasional for it will be a loud, clear and unmistakable message to all Malaysians that Umno and BN are totally irredeemable and incapable of internal change and reform and there is choice or alternative whatsoever for Malaysians in the next general elections to sweep Umno and BN out of power in Putrajaya.
I cannot agree more with Tun Mahathir and Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah in their public objections to Isa’s candidature.
Mahathir said Umno and BN can win the battle in Bagan Pinang but they will lose the war in the next general elections.
Tengku Razaleigh has been more direct when he said today that it is better if Umno lost today in the Bagan Pinang by-election as Isa’s victory would translate into an endorsement for corruption-as-usual in UMNO and the Barisan Nasional government.
Razaleigh said: “For the good of the party, the dignity of the Malay community it claims to represent and for the sake of the nationwide reform in governance and politics that we must undergo, it would be better if Umno lost today, and used the loss to begin internal reform.
“Corruption is the scourge of the country. Umno is a step away from being identified with that scourge.”
This is why the Bagan Pinang by-election is a“no winner” for Umno/BN as it is a Umno/BN defeat if Isa wins with a smaller majority but an even bigger defeat with a bigger Isa majority!

#1 by newchief on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 3:22 pm
the chances of isa losing IS VERY SLIM and the main factor of win is the lack of control in postal voters. unless these votes are counted on the day of voting, chances are manipulation of such votes is easily done.
isa may win and bn especially umno will boasts that only umno can deliver while its other components like mic,gerakan and mca can’t!!! they will then try to find reasons for these representives to be replaced by umno instead!!!
isa can win in bp becuase he’s a corrupt expert!!!! he could do it within umno so this bp voters are just peanuts to him!!!
the thing that pk should focus on is thinking of how to encourage the voters to ‘suffer’ and vote for them in the next elections especially the ‘easy-to-buy’ voters of the east.
most of these east malaysians who vote for bn are very poorly educated and can be easily bought for their votes in exchange for a 5 kilo of rice to last for 5 years!!!
i’m from the east but i’m edcucated so i’m not easily fooled with ‘sweet promises’ so an advice here is….go educate the poors to be rich to WIN THE NEXT GE !!!
#2 by boh-liao on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 3:29 pm
1MCA is looking for some1 to take over its presidency
1 or not, LKS?
#3 by Freddy on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 3:37 pm
1MCA is the inscription on a tombstone!
MCA is dying…
MIC is dying …
UMNO is dying …
MCA will be dead …
MIC will be dead …
UMNO will be dead too …
that’s when 1Malaysia becomes reality …
btw … i heard that UMNO ppl are shaking their heads and are admitting that it’s gonne be tough winning this seat …
#4 by boh-liao on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 3:54 pm
Yes, hopefully, voters will vote with their thoughts on the coming Deepavali
The Festival of Lights – victory of good over evil n corrupt politicians like Isa n keris-cow HH
So, voters do the right thing n give yourselves an early Deepavali/Divali present
Makkal Sakti
#5 by Winston on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 4:03 pm
Mahathir said Umno and BN can win the battle in Bagan Pinang but they will lose the war in the next general elections.
Tengku Razaleigh has been more direct when he said today that it is better if Umno lost today in the Bagan Pinang by-election as Isa’s victory would translate into an endorsement for corruption-as-usual in UMNO and the Barisan Nasional government.
Remember, all the rot started from TDM’s reign!
Since then the decay has got deeper and deeper!
Pass the message that the electorate wants these tainted crooks out for good.
Don’t ever listen to the bull shit that they will change!
We have been fooled for the past five decades.
That’s a very, very long time.
With such rich pickings to be made from their positions, there’s nothing in the world that they’ll stop at!
WE HAVE TO STOP THEM!!!
#6 by sightseeing on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 4:08 pm
If the BN candidate Tan Sri Mohd Isa Samad wins in the Bagan Pinang by-election more than 2,333-vote, the outcome will boost UMNO’s confidence that Malaysian voters are generally stupid and money politics is the way to go.
#7 by Loh on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 4:15 pm
///Tengku Razaleigh has been more direct when he said today that it is better if Umno lost today in the Bagan Pinang by-election as Isa’s victory would translate into an endorsement for corruption-as-usual in UMNO and the Barisan Nasional government./// -Kit
We know that votes today have been bought and sold, and reform in UMNO will have to be carried out by the leaders. MCA has split down the middle, one for money and the other against corruption. If not for the 2 billion party assets, there should now be two parties.
There should be a similar no-confidence vote on Najib so that UMNO can be divided into good guilt and good innocence. The reorganization itself would ensure reform. As for the electorates they are just waiting for buy-elections to come around.
#8 by isahbiazhar on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 4:46 pm
Is BN cracking?It had cracked and the Bagan Pinang election will prove further.Whatever the outcome,UMNO will have to go.Even Najib could not prevent Isa from contesting.UMNO seemed not to have lived up to its theme.Slogan shouting will not capture votes.Najib had driven another wedge by recognising Makkal Sakhti but failed to realise that it is another of the race based particular language party.MIC is slowly dying because of caste and Tamil politicking.Najib gave another blow to MIC by recognising Makkal Sakhti. And yesterday MCA showed that it is no more the Chinese based party.Leaderless and clueless and rhetoric ridden MCA will see a quick demise.We need a party which represents all the races and anybody can be its leader.The election result will show how the races had voted and the future will see the demise of all race and religious based parties coming to an end in Malaysia.
#9 by limkamput on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 5:44 pm
1. If UMNO BN wins, it is the vote for corruption and “that Umno and BN are totally irredeemable and incapable of internal change and reform”.
2. If UMNO BN loses, it is “a clear defeat for Umno and BN as the by-election will be a mini-political tsunami by itself”.
Putting the two together gets me confused; it is the same people of Bagan Pinang who will decide who shall win or lose. If they decide to let UMNO win, they will be blamed for their inability to change and reform. If they let UMNO lose, they will be hailed as heroes of Malaysia – a PR gateway to the southern Peninsula.
It is the people of Malaysia who shall decide whether this country will change or reform. It is really not the business of PR to worry whether UMNO BN will change or stay the same. In fact, the more UMNO BN stays the same, the better is for PR. PR must focus on changing the people. Let cut all the bulls – if PR win today, it means they have managed to convince the majority of the voters in Bagan Pinang the need to change. If PR lose, it means they have more work to do, more ideas to sell and more convincing to make.
#10 by boh-liao on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 6:25 pm
Ku Li: Better for Umno B to lose today
A victory for the corrupt Isa in the BP buy-election would translate into an endorsement for corruption
Khairy: A victory for the corrupt Isa will give Umno B a much-needed boost
Yes, the shameless SIL wants a confirmation of corruption n money politics
#11 by GilaPolitic on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 6:30 pm
ISA WIN, BN SURE LOSE IN 13GE !
ISA LOSE, UMNO CONFIRM CLOSE SHOP !
NAJIB IS 1DESPARATOR PM IN HISTORY OF MALAYSIA TODAY WILLING TO TARNISH THE NATION BY NOMINATING THE MOST CORRUPT MONEY POLITICIAN ISA TO REPRESENT BN ! WHAT A GREAT SHAME ?
#12 by yhsiew on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 6:50 pm
Umno and BN are totally irredeemable and incapable of internal change and reform….(Kit)
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A party which has been so entrenched with corruption for the past 50 odd years will certainly find it difficult to break away from such bad practices. Party members are so “accustomed” to corrupt practices in their everyday lifestyle that they are no longer conscious of corruption and its implications.
#13 by namasaya on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 8:28 pm
The landslide and bigger majority for umno just shows that the rakyat are not happy with PR, especially PAS’s recent performaces.
If PAS don’t change their attitude, there will only be bigger losses for them.
It is also a reminder that PR should grow mature quickly so that they will be prepared to handle other bigger issues. This period is an intern for PR. If there prove that they are reliable, the rakyat will promote them to a higher position.
#14 by monsterball on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 8:29 pm
Yes the win by Isa is no surprise.
The win by a bigger majority signals to the fact that at Bagan Pinang…. voters are afraid for change and corruptions is encouraged.
Win by UMNO in Bagan Pinang puts it at 9-2.
In football terms….UMNO is still clobbered.
In by election term….Malaysians by and large…want a change in government badly.
#15 by OrangRojak on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 8:39 pm
voters are afraid for change
Sure? Isn’t this a much greater majority than before? Something must have changed, mustn’t it?
It would be nice to get the results of some opinion polls from Bagan Pinang to find out what it was that caused the change in majority.
#16 by yhsiew on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 8:45 pm
Isa’s victory could well be a timebomb for BN in the 13th general election.
#17 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 8:55 pm
If PAS’s Zulkefly Mohamad Omar stands for symbol of piety/integrity and his oppnent “Good Guilty” for money polkitics/corruption, then the voters in Bagan Pinang have given a resounding 8,013 vote victory for Politics/Corruption as against 2,578 for piety/integrity with majority of 5,435!
Even if it were argued that such a landslide victory for BN signals “loud, clear and unmistakable message to all Malaysians that Umno and BN are totally irredeemable and incapable of internal change and reform”, it begs the question and does not answer WHY in spite of being “irredeemable and incapable of internal change and reform”, the BN’s candidate still gets overwhelming support (instead of given the boot for his tainted past)
So it would seem the loud, clear and unmistakable message is that any fight against corruption can only be effective if the larger community’s and voters’ attitudes are changed to one revulsed with and repulsed by it instead of indulgent or tolerant of it.
Ultimately fighting corruption lies in the people, not so much (on comparative basis) the government.
If rakyat by majority are tolerant of leaders known for money politics and view their guilt as “good guilt” because they distribute some of the spoils back (in a kind of patron-client exchange system) , how does one battle this scourge of corruption?
One has to change the ordinary voters’ attitude, and for that one has to inculcate ethical values, which is uphill, looking at the record of more than 50 years, if rent seeking behaviour and patron client relationship (which by themselves provide the excuses and pretext for corrupt transactions) are otherwise sanctioned and even institutionalised.
#18 by OrangRojak on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 9:04 pm
WHY
If anybody fancies collecting statistics, my wife tells me that her mother asked my brother-in-law, as he was taking her to Bagan Pinang to vote this morning, “You want me to vote PAS ah? For what?”.
It would be silly to draw conclusions from individual stories, but corruption doesn’t seem to be a prime concern for my mother-in-law.
#19 by sheriff singh on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 9:14 pm
Moral of the story: “Good guilty” is good.
#20 by lkt-56 on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 9:22 pm
When the Duke of Zhou defeated the Shang he made a famous speech wherein he said that Shang rulers have failed to take care of the welfare of the people. Hence the Shang rulers have lost the heaven given mandate to rule. By challenging the Shang and if he manages to defeat the Shang then it means the Mandate has been passed on to him.
The Doctrine of “Heaven’s Mandate” or “Tian Ming” posits that Heaven takes an active interest in the welfare of the humans and will intervene to remove a ruler when he is deemed to have failed to take care of the welfare of the people and failed to rule fairly and wisely. If a ruler started to be unjust or uninterested in the people, Heaven would remove the Mandate and pass it to another.
Today PR/PAS challenged this mandate in Bagan Pinang and since they have lost it means that UMNO in Bagan Pinang must have done something right. But by choosing a candidate of dubious character who may not rule wisely and act in the interest of the people they may lose the mandate the next time around.
The results must be gracefully be accepted by all. Let us wish ISA all the best.
#21 by Hugos on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 9:25 pm
“Putting the two together gets me confused ..>>limkamput
The same confused person earlier called for “retributive” measures to be taken against government servants who merely carried out the wishes of their political masters or lose their jobs.
#22 by Hugos on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 9:37 pm
“Let cut all the bulls” ?? >>> limkamput
“Let’s cut the bull” you mean. If you “cut all the bulls’ you’ll create another incident. The cows will protest.
#23 by boh-liao on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 9:49 pm
Boomz, the message fr BP voters is loud n clear
Between the known evil devil Umno and the PAS deep blue sea
They are more afraid of PAS (no sexy entertainers, no beer, no ….) than
The corrupt racist Umno B
The keris-cow gang
The sudden death of TBH at MACC
The sudden death of Kugan while in police custody
The C4 murderers
Expectations of voters are changing
PR, O PR. Wherefore art thou, PR?
#24 by yhsiew on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 9:52 pm
Malaysiakini (Chinese version) gave a very good analysis on why Isa won. The news portal reported that many people were not willing to vote for BN. However, when interviewed by the media, they said they would give support to Isa because they felt that Isa had been friendly to them and had helped them a lot while he was MB of Negeri Sembilan. That is why PR’s attack on money politics had no effect on these people since they had decided to repay Isa their indebtedness.
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/114789
#25 by baochingtian on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 10:06 pm
Interview by m/kini did show that most voters couldn’t be bothered abt corruption. They are contented with their current lives. They knew this guy isa, but not the new candidate from PAS. Has PAS or PR not done enough homework and enough walking to visit the voters? Future election/by-election should take heed of any interviews conducted.
#26 by rahmanwang on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 10:06 pm
Hello Hello.Corruption is in BN’s blood.They are born with it.
#27 by limkamput on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 10:38 pm
There is no such thing as the good guilt. A patronage or a corrupted system can not favour the majority. I do not buy the idea that Isa won because the majority in Bagan Pinang wanted to repay his good deeds. That is baloney to me.
BN won because many Malaysians especially in rural areas are still very ignorant. They can’t relate their lack of quality of life with a corrupted or an inefficient government. When I was young living in abject poverty, I was not aware why life is so unfair. I only knew my family was poor but I have no ideas life could be better if government programmes are more productively, fairly and efficiently distributed.
If we impute our own way of looking at issues (given our awareness, education and experience) into how an average voter should think and act, then we are in for surprise and disappointment. PR must focus on coming up with innovative ideas and on how to put across these ideas to the masses. It is useless to continue to discuss the misdeeds of the government in eloquent and sophisticated language here.
Anyway this loss is also good for PR. May be it is time they learn to be less assertive of their useless philosophy and more on pragmatism.
#28 by Hugos on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 10:41 pm
One reason why UMNO won is because a twit on this blog suggests that “retributive” measures be taken by Pakatan against government employees who were only doing their job.
#29 by Hugos on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 10:43 pm
Now the same twat is asking for Pakatan leaders to be “less assertive”. Sheeesh ….!
#30 by undertaker888 on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 10:50 pm
Salute to those volunteers who are there to rally for PR. This includes monsterball :-).
As there is “good guilty”, there is “good lost” as well. PR has 2 years to prepare for the GE13. This lost will be your lesson today. It will be a wake up call for PR to conduct an “autopsy” why they lost. As much sunshine there will be rain at times.
I believe PR will emerge stronger in coming years to extinguish umno’s tyranny. I hope the internal bickerings will stop. The likes of Hassan Alis’ will not help in forming a united front against the tyrant regime.
I will do my part for these 2 years to convince others in kopitiam to vote for PR as long as their struggle and manifesto against this evil regime has not changed.
Let them suffer the fate of King Louis the 16.
#31 by limkamput on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 11:07 pm
sorry repost, mistakes earlier:
There is no such thing as the good guilt. A patronage or a corrupted system can not favour the majority. I do not buy the idea that Isa won because the majority in Bagan Pinang wanted to repay his good deeds. That is baloney to me.
BN won because many Malaysians especially in rural areas are still very ignorant. They can’t relate their lack of quality of life with a corrupted or an inefficient government. When I was young living in abject poverty, I was not aware why life was so unfair. I only knew my family was poor but I have no ideas life could be better if government programmes were more productively, fairly and efficiently distributed.
If we impute our own way of looking at issues (given our awareness, education and experience) into how an average voter should think and act, then we are in for surprise and disappointment. PR must focus on coming up with innovative ideas and on how to put across these ideas to the masses. It is useless to continue to discuss the misdeeds of the government in eloquent and sophisticated language here.
Anyway this loss is also good for PR. May be it is time they learn to be less assertive of their useless philosophy and more on pragmatism.
#32 by undertaker888 on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 11:17 pm
limkaput, you like listening to yourself talk isn’t it? no need to echo.
#33 by Hugos on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 11:21 pm
For a man who hears voices in his head?? That would be like asking PAS not to talk about Islam.
#34 by limkamput on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 11:40 pm
Tengku Razaleigh does not have to say anything. Leave UMNO if he really wants changes. I think he still harbours ambition to lead UMNO someday. Tell me what difference is he going to make if he ever gets to lead UMNO? UMNO itself is a misnomer.
#35 by yhsiew on Sunday, 11 October 2009 - 11:49 pm
Kit,
Here is a strategy for PR to win big in the 13th general election.
Since the electorate are only interested in the candidate as a person and his attributes and not the party which he belongs to, the time is ripe for PR potential candidates for the next general election to be groomed as Isa (PR version) or Nizar and build them up with dream attributes.
The followings will certainly help PR potential candidates to improve rapport with the electorate (the key is we go to the people instead of waiting for them to come to us):
1) Carry out regular door to door visits to understand people’s problems and needs – don’t just do it during election time.
2) Visit market place, bus-stop, railway station etc to talk with traders/people to see what they lack.
3) Invite village heads for tea or dinner.
4) Organize sports, games, competitions etc for the electorate.
5) Conduct open-house not only for Chinese New Year, Deepavali and Hari Raya but also for the moon-cake festival, dumpling festival, Malay festivals and Indian festivals. Light refreshments will be sufficient for the less important festivals. Video of DAP’s latest achievements may be screened during the open-house.
Items 1 – 5 above should be conducted in the name of the potential candidate rather than DAP’s name. The purpose is to imprint firmly on the minds of the attendees the name of the potential candidate.
And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
#36 by limkamput on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 12:01 am
Moderator, i wish to withdraw post #30.
#37 by OrangRojak on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 12:03 am
change the ordinary voters’ attitude
Why bother? Just give them more money than BN can. I think if PR really want to get GE13 ‘in the bag’, they should promise to pay a Cost Of Living Allowance, as a tax credit, to every Malaysian who can fill in a tax self-assessment form. RM500 per year seems like a nice round amount. A household with 4 voting-age citizens in it would get RM10,000 over the course of a PR first term in government. Better than a rice-cooker or not?
It wouldn’t cost PR anything if they didn’t win the GE. BN can’t pay this kind of money, because citizens might spend it on education, Internet or lawyers. It would only cost a few billion a year – Malaysians already paying tax wouldn’t feel the difference between the COLA and the subsequently defunct tax-free income allowance. Middle-income Malaysians who make their money from providing products and services locally would feel the benefit from increased benefit. It might take a while to filter up the chain to benefit the already wealthy, but I’m assuming they’re either PR voters already, or their votes are not cost-effective to buy. I mean ‘attract with sincere and caring policies’ obviously.
If the battle is being won with money, I think you should up the ante. It wouldn’t hurt Malaysia’s ranking in the wealth distribution indices either. Of course, you wouldn’t be able to buy as many submarines as BN can, and it would shave a few percent off your ‘stimulus packages’ for your wealthy friends. But think of all the new friends you’ll be able to afford!
#38 by OrangRojak on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 12:05 am
‘feel the benefit from increased benefit’
Oops! I mean increased customer spending.
#39 by Hugos on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 12:05 am
Let’s nominate limkamput the so-called ‘rags to riches’ government servant from Kg. Attap who reaped the benefits of the NEP, awarded the PPP award by the Agong, to stand in a Malay and Muslim dominated constituency.
#40 by yhsiew on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 12:08 am
#31 by limkamput:
Kindly explain what is wrong with post #30. Is it not good to build good rapport with the electorate and to improve one’s character to face the electorate?
#41 by Hugos on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 12:20 am
It is good as long as you nominate him.
#42 by boh-liao on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 2:36 am
With this big fat win, Umno knows how to constrict n limit PR
Umno is finetuning the steps with EC, polis, etc
Step by step, eventually to checkmate PR
While PR strange bedfellows r still building castles in the air n shooting their own feet
Watch out, kaboom, C4ed
#43 by limkamput on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 3:01 am
yhsiew, no, it has nothing to do with what you said. I have second thought of what i wrote, so i asked the moderator to withdraw mine, not yours.
#44 by sightseeing on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 3:01 am
The people of Bagan Pinang have spoken loud and clear. Corruption is part of our culture. The fight against corruption is doomed. Voters of Bagan Pinang should never complain about corruption, they deserve it.
#45 by monsterball on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 3:37 am
The huge win by a man proven to be corrupted..by UMNO……yet using him… proves UMNO encourages corruptions.
It will wake up all the young voters. what is Najib’s “1Malaysia” ia all about.
It is meaningless…clearly.. defying laws and applying double standards..in every which way to UMNO’s benefits.
Short term gain does not mean long term good results…..and to openly endorsed Isa…proven to buy votes with money…in 12th GE..is OK to UMNO….defying laws and Malaysians intelligence and applying the “1Malaysia” to fool Malaysians.
Isa can even predict… 5000 to 6000 majority and why not.
Call in one by one…find out how many voters can those ‘runners’ buy..get the number..hand out the money.
When you are so corrupted…it will be a different ball game.
Isa prediction was made…after getting all the feedbacks…from his ever faithful runners.
God only knows….how many millions needed for him to win…and no one can prove that…unless….the runners..come out openly to confess….and that will be asking for deadly trouble.
Isa proven to use money to buy votes….and was very successful. Do you expect this man to stop his style..which is actually a faithful student ..responding to Mahathir’s…”Money is Power. Money can buy a country”…. instructions?
Faithfully applied by Najib….and we have the result again.
Yes….let UMNO win by buying votes.
One may say…..I am unreasonable and a sour grape to write this way.
If you have lived long enough…like me….a 70 year old man..seen and live in ..every political events…you can never ….trust UMNO….when it became UMNO BARU.
They were lead by a devil…30 years ago..cashing on all human weaknesses…to stay in power.
They defy God and use their own race to be fooled.
They go against Allah and are 100% racialists….bluffing their own race..to win only through…divide and rule formula.
UMNO can never unite the country nor bring Malaysia forward.
Why then….so many still support UMNO…the proven…evil government?
MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVILS.
That’s the answer.
To me….Bagan Pinang voters may have no choice or are weak.
You win some…you loose some.
Buy in this case..Bagan Pinang voters are the ultimate losers……..which many half pass sixes can never understand….as MONEY have bought their souls and will vote like zoombies…..waiting to win small tenders..here and there to survive.
#46 by drago2008 on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 4:32 am
Corruption rules….in Bagan Pinang. Good luck to BN for its victory and its endorsement of graft. And good luck to the voters who showed their love for Isa.
#47 by monsterball on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 5:01 am
Limkamput is teaching politicians..Malaysians how to think like him.
Such wisdom.
He should speak to the animals in the jungle..that may admire his commonsense.
Non stop…telling Malaysians and PR what to do….so sad..such a smart ass is not in politician.. to save the world.
#48 by Hugos on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 5:50 am
“PR must focus on coming up with innovative ideas and on how to put across these ideas to the masses. It is useless ..>>>limkamput
Like “retribution against government servants” for siding with UMNO-BN when Pakatan takes over?? And you call that innovative?? Dumb idea by a dumb nitwit.
#49 by Jeffrey on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 7:08 am
Is there nothing else better to blame for PAS vice-president Salahuddin Ayub to attribute the party’s loss to postal votes & “fear-factor” of gangsterism ( The MalaysiaInsider report of 11th Oct )?
Had 100% of total postal votes of 4,604 being given to PAS’s Zulkefly Omar, he would still have lost! Salahuddin admitted. “We are pretty weak in Bagan Pinang. PAS has only around 100 members in Bagan Pinang compared to Umno’s approximately 3,000 members here.”
IF PAS were weak in Bagan Pinang why did PR allot that seat to be again contested by PAS candidate instead of (say) a PKR’s man? How do your power sharing rules work? Just because in previous 2008 GE PAS’s candidate was given the seat to contest, did you have to give it back once again to PAS in this by election – even if in 08 GE, PAS’s candidate lost, and as admitted by Salahuddin PAS had only around 100 members in Bagan Pinang compared to UMNO’s 3000? In 2008 GE, PAS’s candidate lost to UMNO’s Azman by 2,333 votes – what more now, you still field a PAS candidate when facing a more popular local chieftain like Isa?
As expected the 2,834 Indian Malaysian voters holding 20.74% of total votes were pivotal to tip the scale in Bagan Pinang, and all the Indian based/majority parties (whether in or out of BN’s fold) like MIC, Indian Progressive Front (IPF) PPP and the new party Malaysia Makkal Sakti Party (MMSP) threw their support behind BN. Though decades of marginalisation and unequal opportunities were age old grouses against BN, many were likely to suspend rememberance of these grouses when Isa (a natural in connecting with his audience) reminded all of High Chaparral / Kampung Buah Pala and made fresh promises for BN.
Khalid Samad, Shah Alam PAS member of Parliament said Umno would pay a price for the actions of the cow-head protestors. He forgot that some of the cow-head protestors were PAS’s supporters and PAS did not even trenchantly voice its public condemnation of the cow head sacrilege. National issues revolving around Teoh Beng Hock’s and A Kugan’s death or even Isa’s image as icon of money politics/corruption (as highlighted by UMNO stalwarts like TDM & Ku Li) did not make a dent. Bread and butter/development issues based on “what’s in for me?” appear to be given prime weightage. “Good guilt” in good ole entrenched Malaysian feudal culture of patron client relationship triumphs.
The buy-election outcome seems to give inspiration to the other warlords that if he is popular locally for being “good guilty” in giving some portion of spoils of money politics back, he can even dictate to his party’s bosses to give his political career another chance without regrets….
Where then is the incentive for UMNO/BN to reform when their depredations are vindicated/rewarded by victory at the polls?
PR has to go back to drawing board and do some soul searching. As YB Kit has written in earlier threads (‘ Bagan Pinang by-election – a contest between Malaysia’s political past and the future’ or ‘ A vote for Pakatan is a vote against corruption’), what we have here is a vote in acquiescence with corruption of political past, the present that may well extend long into the future. It is argued here that Bagan Pinang by-election is a“no winner” for Umno/BN : if it wins the battle it loses the war in next GE. Are we sure of this? What if many other constitutencies also behave like Bagan Pinang voters in the next GE? UMNO/BN would have found in Isa’s “good guilty” the right formula to stay in power. Reforming and re-inventing will take the form of mere changing from bad guilty (giving nothing back to bribe voters) to “good guilty” of (sharing the spoils/largese).
#50 by Jeffrey on Monday, 12 October 2009 - 7:33 am
People also seem to be taken in more by personality of candidate than issues per se. If one is affable, can crack jokes and make audience at ease with personal charm and at same time make good and rousing speech, even conviction for money politics seem no matter, one still gets the popular votes over a dour and colourless opponent of unblemished financial probity or religious piety.