The Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission Chief Commissioner Datuk Seri Said Ahmad Hamdan has shown himself to be completely callous and heartless over the mysterious death of Teoh Beng Hock who went to the 14th floor MACC headquarters on July 16 to co-operate with its investigations but ended up as a corpse on the fifth floor.
Ahmad Said told Sin Chew that he had been informed that there had been ten cases of people investigated by Hong Kong’s Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) who threw themselves off from high-rise buildings since the establishment of ICAC and there was nothing he could do if people investigated cannot withstand the pressure.
The implication of Ahmad Said’s statement is crystal clear – he is blaming Teoh’s death on suicide for being unable to withstand the pressure of investigation by the MACC, seeking justification in the alleged ten cases in Hong Kong of people “throwing themselves off high-rise buildings” following ICAC investigations.
Ahmad Said should confirm whether there had been ten suicide cases of persons investigated by ICAC in Hong Kong, giving the circumstances surrounding each such suicide – as it will be the height of irresponsibility on Ahmad Said’s part if he is unable to back up his claim.
Furthermore, out of these 10 suicide cases in Hong Kong, how many of them were suspects and how many were witnesses – as MACC had been at pains to declare that it was taking a statement from Teoh as a witness and not as a suspect.
If Ahmad Said cannot substantiate his claim of ten cases of suicide over Hong Kong’s ICAC investigations, he should apologise for making an irresponsible claim.
In trying to absolve all MACC responsibility for Teoh’s death, Ahmad Said is showing utter contempt for widespread public concerns about MACC’s Gestapo operations and interrogation techniques, as well as showing no sense of remorse or compassion whatsoever for Teoh’s death and the bereavement of Teoh’s family.
Ahmad Said should also explain why MACC is so irresponsible as to put out two theories of Teoh’s death – that he committed suicide or he was murdered by people other than MACC.
The 42 MACC Panel members should meet in emergency session on whether Ahmad Said is fit and competent to continue as MACC Chief Commissioner or they should call for his dismissal.
Furthermore, the 42 MACC Panel members cannot continue to be indifferent to the betrayal of the MACC statutory objectives to declare an all-out war against corruption as intended by Parliament as the present MACC had embarked instead on an all-out war against Pakatan Rakyat as catspaw of Umno/Barisan Nasional in the grand conspiracy to the topple the Pakatan Rakyat Selangor State Government.
#1 by monsterballssgoh on Wednesday, 2 September 2009 - 9:29 pm
The mentalities and attitudes of UMNO Malays that are corrupted to the core..are so arrogant with the idiotic personality that makes Malaysians sick to the stomach for some time.
The characters are surfacing …one by one…with their actions and spoken words.
This small fut..chosen by Najib…using Hong Kong ICAC to defend MACC…..must have browsed over dozens of similar agencies..,and chose Hong Kong ICAC….just like UMNO leaders telling us how lucky we are comparing to cost of living in other countries…with much higher cost of living…,WITHOUT telling us those countries have their citizens earning ten times more than Malaysians and those counties are far more developed than Malaysia.
You always get half truths from UMNO buggers.
But we are dealing with the death of Teoh Beng Hock..and what do you expect from a racialist..who thinks all others are second class citizen too.
Wearing a uniform of a high ranking police officer and chosen by Najib…to head the MACC…just like the IGP…these two are UMNO stooges..and UMNO is a racialist party..who uses money to buy……to stay in power
The few henchmen of UMNO are clearing seen..by the ways they talk and defend themselves.
UMNO BARU is managed by a band of …thieves with their few machais.
Live with it…till 13th GE.
Malaysians are not interested what UMNO and their people say or do…but it is nice for Lim Kit Siang…to report to us…to keep us up to date..a job…we elected him to do so.
#2 by Taxidriver on Wednesday, 2 September 2009 - 9:35 pm
While in this world there are people who have their hearts in their right lungs, there are also people who have theie grey matters inside their scrotums. Of these two groups, the former is considered rare. The ‘GMIS’ ( grey matter inside scrotum) are mostly found in Bolehland among the UMNOputras. Selangor OCPD (what’s his name”)?, Ahmad Said, Moo Hee Din, Toyol………..to name just a few.
#3 by Taxidriver on Wednesday, 2 September 2009 - 9:48 pm
How the hell did Ahmad Said get to his present position?
#4 by Ramesh Laxman on Wednesday, 2 September 2009 - 9:51 pm
Corruptin allows people without ability to get all that they want.
#5 by Ramesh Laxman on Wednesday, 2 September 2009 - 9:54 pm
Oops ” Corruption allows people without ability to get all that they want.”
#6 by Free Man on Wednesday, 2 September 2009 - 10:46 pm
MACC put teories that TBH climb up window of 14th floor committed suicide and his sour fly back 14th floor rub off his own fingger print. Ha! Ha! Ha!
#7 by OrangRojak on Wednesday, 2 September 2009 - 10:51 pm
Did I see in the news that MACC had hired Alain Robert – the French Spiderman – to show how TBH could have done it?
#8 by Jaswant on Wednesday, 2 September 2009 - 11:22 pm
In Malaysia unlike in the U.K. it is against the country’s Penile Code for anyone caught giving head. Be that as it may, giving good head is the preferred choice of lifestyle of he who thinks foul play is a statutory offence.
#9 by limkamput on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 12:03 am
//The next of kin of the victim may not be able to pin murder on MACC in similar circumstances. How about wrongful death which is a civil matter? //Jaswant ball
Who said so? You? But who are you – a mere one ball imposter who tried to save the skin of macc? A real stupid moronic cow head.
#10 by saya cintakan cow on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 12:03 am
Idiot with such mentality and waiting for extention. It is a waste of tax payer’s money. Talking of Hong Kong’s ICAC. We expected MACC to be like ICAC – independant and truly professional. But what do we have….. all I C I C cows being pull by the nose.
#11 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 12:38 am
When I think of Said, my vocabulary narrows down to only expletives!
This, added to the fact I don’t want to dignify his idiocy by giving him more space than I should, is what is holding back my comments.
All that remains to be said about SAId is wtf is he doing bullshitting in our front yard and in the vein of Ku Li’s words, UMNO can do no better. Ku Li, all decent humans with a 20/20 vision recognises that UMNO is beyond redemption and verily mad. It’s time to bail out. Why should a good man like yrself sink in the same cesspool, in such sewage?
#12 by daryl on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 1:06 am
when did the BN/UMNO people falls under the same laws as us rakyat. Until that they come which means never if BN is in power rakyat will be treated differently.
#13 by Taxidriver on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 1:09 am
Najib assured TBH’s family that “no stone will be left unturned to find the cause of his death” Now what?
Malaysians are still waiting for Najib to order PDRM to go turn the stone in MACC, leave all other stones alone because it is a waste of time.
#14 by draken001 on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 1:13 am
Kit Siang:
“If Ahmad Said cannot substantiate his claim of ten cases of suicide over Hong Kong’s ICAC investigations, he should apologise for making an irresponsible claim.”
I go along with you Kit that this Ahmad Said is making an irresponsible claim. If this claim is true, it can be easily confirmed by contacting the ICAC in Hong Kong. Will someone with some standing go about this business?
Meanwhile, the 42 MACC panel appointees are behaving like dumb and deaf members. That says a lot about them if they are not dumb enough to come to that conclusion.
If these people are appointed in names only without an iota of power in them to right any wrong, then there’s point in having this lame duck panel.
BTW, by talking about pressure and suicide, Ahmad Said has admitted that the MACC did put pressure on Teoh during questioning or is it intensed interrogation?
#15 by pwcheng on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 1:16 am
This Ahmad Said or LONG JAW is making a contemptuous assumption that the victim had committed suicide, which is highly unlikely looking at the circumstances and evidences, broken window handles and snap belt. However we must put it to him that even if its suicide, MACC is still responsible because they still have a “duty of care” as the victim is still under their custody. They are just trying to bull shit their way out by telling that they had released him but he refused to leave the “5 star hotel” and slept there. Even if they have released him but if he choose to remain because of the unworldly hours, it is still their duty to ensure his safety. The provision of the law is there and we must go all out to get these corrupted crooks who are just an extension of the corrupted UMNO..
#16 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 1:23 am
What Said is saying is that suicides and similar deaths, due to investigations, are normal as it happens everywhere, not only in Malaysia.
And using HK’s ICAC as a benchmark and reference point, MACC is really doing a “great” job.
This man is dangerous.
#17 by Taxidriver on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 1:34 am
Hey, folks,
Next time if any one of you happen to witness a crime being committed, don’t ‘chia li hai’ ( act smart) and be a witness. PDRM and MACC are known to torture their witnesses also. Remember how TBH died.
#18 by Taxidriver on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 1:47 am
LKS,
You want the cow-head to substantiate his claim of knowing the ten cases in HK of people “throwing themselves off high-rise buildings” followimg ICAC investigations?
If I were you, brader kit, I would be more than satisfied if he could produce just five names.
#19 by Onlooker Politics on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 2:28 am
I wonder who was the former Prime Minister of Malaysia who was responsible of picking Ahmad Said Hamdan to head the former ACA and later on to continue allow him to head the present MACC!
This former Prime Minister had really done all Malaysians a big disservice by positioning a wrong man in the key post of an important government checks-and-balances apparatus of anti-corruption function!
#20 by pwcheng on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 2:54 am
by GreenBug on September 2nd, 2009 14:07
This MACC chief is a disgrace and a shame to all Malaysians with a conscience. It is strange why PM Najib still retain him? Maybe all birds of the same feather do really flock together…
Birds of a feather flock together.
#21 by ANN BK3 on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 6:47 am
This MACC chief ‘tok 3 tok 4′ cos in his and I quote him ‘unable to withstand’ the wrath and fury of the
people zeroing in on him. Let’s him a little breathing space to get his bearings right before we turn the heat on again.
#22 by taiking on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 9:13 am
Odd.
I googled “deaths in icac” and found no write-ups on death(s) due to icac investigations. I then googled “deaths in macc” and beng hock’s murder appeared.
Maybe my keywords (i.e. “deaths in …”) arent good or precise enough.
#23 by SpeakUp on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 9:29 am
taiking … please la, you cannot find it on Google. You need to use the AHMAD SAID search engine. If you (Ahmad Said) have no brains then you make up such ridiculous stories that even the journalists cannot verify. It works, for them … so they think.
Same in PR also, we make up stories that the PM is a murderer and write articles that to have him as PM will mean Malaysian is a laughing stock in the international community, but it did not happen right? This is the Malaysian way of politics from both sides of the divide.
#24 by OrangRojak on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 11:52 am
Google has 2 results in first ten for “icac suicide”:
Chong Tsoi-jun
Stephen Fung Kin-man
The second name was not directly available from Google’s result, but some “search fu” turned up a very interesting Asia Sentinel article which you could find at Google with the search “Mystery Inside the Hong Kong Police”:
And a very interesting-looking article by Max J. Skidmore (for which I can find only abstracts) “Promise and Peril in Combating Corruption: Hong Kong’s ICAC” – Google offers this as the hit for the 2nd killing, but the abstract does not refer to the death, so its spider must have access to the full text.
#25 by SpeakUp on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 12:00 pm
OrangRojak … looks like MACC is truly following the footsteps of the ICAC! So now we know why …
#26 by ktteokt on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 12:55 pm
If Teoh was to die because of RM112, I dread to think how many times Zakaria Deros is to die! Perhaps he has reincarnated many times since his death and had died many times yet for the millions he has amassed illegally!
#27 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 1:01 pm
Ask Hong Kong’s ICAC deputy commissioner and head of operations Daniel Li, who had such high praises for our MACC Act that he had given advice to confirm whether ICAC knows anything about the 10 cases of people investigated by ICAC who threw themselves off from high-rise buildings since the establishment of ICAC…
#28 by monsterballssgoh on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 6:04 pm
And now…MACC cheif said….”CCTVs for all MACC offices”
That itself is admitting.what goes on in a room..no one knows..yet they keep defending their people.
I cannot imagine a beautiful young girl caught what…questioned by these people…with no DVD evidences…just switch on or off the taping.. as they like…when they like.
#29 by katdog on Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 7:21 pm
“to have him as PM will mean Malaysian is a laughing stock in the international community, but it did not happen right?” – SpeakUp
Well the reason why nobody’s laughing is because nobody cares to even waste the effort laughing about this little speck of country called Malaysia.
#30 by Loh on Friday, 4 September 2009 - 12:54 pm
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/26404/84/
It is easy to know that it happened, but not if it did not. We don’t know how world leaders laugh among themselves talking about the head of Malaysian government.