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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JK&#039;s Digest No. 6 of Aug 2009 (114-115 of 2009) Rozak town in conflict with dogs haram? 

1. Donggongon Township, Penampang.

I went to that small suburban township and the place around buhaven or blue heaven has sort of become buhell or blue hell. Why? The open spaces have been converted into temporary or semi permanent trading and cooking stalls. I heard DBKK is now very strict with all those eateries in KK in the prevailing Influenza A (H1N1) [not to mention Cash’s H1N1- the ‘bomb’], and so the Penampang Town Council loaded with politicians is in sort of crying shame. Please do something in the interest of public health and healthy tourism. Are those operators local? 

2. Why are dogs also haram in dog shape Sabah?

My wife heard of this sort of fantastic story when she was in Donggongan. Learn from this if Sabah is to progress effectively and not into a desert now that many storms are here - the land below the wind. The story goes from a lady who was sending the puppies to the veterinary doctor. The cost of tending dogs is worth it. There was this case of a family who abandoned 4 puppies of three weeks old into the dustbin hoping that they would be taken away by the dustmen the next day. A concerned neighbour who saw this had pity on the puppies and the mother dog. So she decided to take home the 4 puppies and the bitch to bring them up. Within a short time, the said family was able to avoid bankruptcy as that business was hard up with cash unable to sell the 4 collateral shops. Soon after that family was able to find buyers after a long delay of getting buyers. On the other hand, the family [doing quite well] who abandoned the puppies were in trouble in family problems ending in ambulances sending some of them to the hospital. Was it due to the puppies and that treatment, it is up to you to ponder. There are not short of such stories around. Many may be scared of H1N1 handling dogs but I have handled dogs since 1990 and today health is no problem for me as I am free from any medication for my age although I sleep with plenty of mosquitos around. So ask God if you are in doubt.

 

Joshua Kong

PM for IGGG

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JK&#8217;s Digest No. 6 of Aug 2009 (114-115 of 2009) Rozak town in conflict with dogs haram? </p>
<p>1. Donggongon Township, Penampang.</p>
<p>I went to that small suburban township and the place around buhaven or blue heaven has sort of become buhell or blue hell. Why? The open spaces have been converted into temporary or semi permanent trading and cooking stalls. I heard DBKK is now very strict with all those eateries in KK in the prevailing Influenza A (H1N1) [not to mention Cash’s H1N1- the ‘bomb’], and so the Penampang Town Council loaded with politicians is in sort of crying shame. Please do something in the interest of public health and healthy tourism. Are those operators local? </p>
<p>2. Why are dogs also haram in dog shape Sabah?</p>
<p>My wife heard of this sort of fantastic story when she was in Donggongan. Learn from this if Sabah is to progress effectively and not into a desert now that many storms are here &#8211; the land below the wind. The story goes from a lady who was sending the puppies to the veterinary doctor. The cost of tending dogs is worth it. There was this case of a family who abandoned 4 puppies of three weeks old into the dustbin hoping that they would be taken away by the dustmen the next day. A concerned neighbour who saw this had pity on the puppies and the mother dog. So she decided to take home the 4 puppies and the bitch to bring them up. Within a short time, the said family was able to avoid bankruptcy as that business was hard up with cash unable to sell the 4 collateral shops. Soon after that family was able to find buyers after a long delay of getting buyers. On the other hand, the family [doing quite well] who abandoned the puppies were in trouble in family problems ending in ambulances sending some of them to the hospital. Was it due to the puppies and that treatment, it is up to you to ponder. There are not short of such stories around. Many may be scared of H1N1 handling dogs but I have handled dogs since 1990 and today health is no problem for me as I am free from any medication for my age although I sleep with plenty of mosquitos around. So ask God if you are in doubt.</p>
<p>Joshua Kong</p>
<p>PM for IGGG</p>
<p>pw: lava Roberts&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: oldman99</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldman99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides having face mask in our pockets, parents should arm themselves with:

1. alcohol-based hand-wash ; no need water to rinse &amp; it&#039;s antimicrobial ; but keep away from kids...to prevent any tragic incident like that not long ago. 

2. also handy to keep some alcohol wipes ; these are in little sachets &amp; convenient to wipe utensils, esp. at mamak, kopitiam, etc. it does not contain soap...so, there is no residue since it is 99.99% alcohol. can also be used to wipe around mouth area but not the eyes. ears &amp; nose area should be ok...just don&#039;t stick it in lah. our respiratory tract is connected via eyes, ears, nose, mouth. this is where the virus can enter. apart from food ie. handled by contaminated hands. 

3. food handlers in restaurants, eateries should be given these alcohol wipes to sanitise their hands regularly - ie. every hour. 

4. school principals should be empowered to close the school if necessary ; if wait for MOH response, too late. in the US, they close 1 mth when there is confirmed case. 

many more ideas can be simply applied. don&#039;t wait for useless MOH to act or give ideas. they will only know how to re-act when something more tragic than now happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides having face mask in our pockets, parents should arm themselves with:</p>
<p>1. alcohol-based hand-wash ; no need water to rinse &amp; it&#8217;s antimicrobial ; but keep away from kids&#8230;to prevent any tragic incident like that not long ago. </p>
<p>2. also handy to keep some alcohol wipes ; these are in little sachets &amp; convenient to wipe utensils, esp. at mamak, kopitiam, etc. it does not contain soap&#8230;so, there is no residue since it is 99.99% alcohol. can also be used to wipe around mouth area but not the eyes. ears &amp; nose area should be ok&#8230;just don&#8217;t stick it in lah. our respiratory tract is connected via eyes, ears, nose, mouth. this is where the virus can enter. apart from food ie. handled by contaminated hands. </p>
<p>3. food handlers in restaurants, eateries should be given these alcohol wipes to sanitise their hands regularly &#8211; ie. every hour. </p>
<p>4. school principals should be empowered to close the school if necessary ; if wait for MOH response, too late. in the US, they close 1 mth when there is confirmed case. </p>
<p>many more ideas can be simply applied. don&#8217;t wait for useless MOH to act or give ideas. they will only know how to re-act when something more tragic than now happens.</p>
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		<title>By: oldman99</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldman99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MOH is doing the AAB ie. dreaming &amp; sleeping 24hr. 

Friends just rtn from Japan &amp; compared to our steps taken to contain the virus, it is non-existent steps. In Japan, at the airport, upon arrival, passengers were given antiseptic or alcohol wipes. 

The same are handed out at hotels, train stations, restaurants, bus stations, toilets, schools, etc etc. Basically all the public areas &amp; this is besides high-end quality face mask. 

These are how detailed the Japan MOH has taken &amp; it shows how serious they are to prevent further spread - which I think it&#039;s under control better than most countries. The idea is so simple &amp; yet effective/efficient. 

In a quarantine situation, the person suspected of H1N1 should be warded to nearest hospital or centralised location. Being mindful towards younger persons at the same time. I heard in Australia, they will send all those suspected to a resort ! At least to prevent the spread to other family members &amp; domino from there. The hospital or the so called resort will provide the necessary care &amp; medical treatment. All these were organised efficiently &amp; collectively by all related parties. So question - why aren&#039;t we doing the same? Pls ask our MOH this YAB. 

Ask everyone on the street &amp; they will say our MOH not doing enough - apart from talking only &amp; passing the responsibility to the people instead. If that&#039;s the case, the whole country should just go into quarantine mode. At least in Japan, people still go about their normal routine. Except those infected which will be taken care of. Same in Australia. This is why the tax payers there gladly pay their taxes! Knowing that they will be taken care of. 

Here, our MOH is telling us politely to &quot;yak-chiu&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MOH is doing the AAB ie. dreaming &amp; sleeping 24hr. </p>
<p>Friends just rtn from Japan &amp; compared to our steps taken to contain the virus, it is non-existent steps. In Japan, at the airport, upon arrival, passengers were given antiseptic or alcohol wipes. </p>
<p>The same are handed out at hotels, train stations, restaurants, bus stations, toilets, schools, etc etc. Basically all the public areas &amp; this is besides high-end quality face mask. </p>
<p>These are how detailed the Japan MOH has taken &amp; it shows how serious they are to prevent further spread &#8211; which I think it&#8217;s under control better than most countries. The idea is so simple &amp; yet effective/efficient. </p>
<p>In a quarantine situation, the person suspected of H1N1 should be warded to nearest hospital or centralised location. Being mindful towards younger persons at the same time. I heard in Australia, they will send all those suspected to a resort ! At least to prevent the spread to other family members &amp; domino from there. The hospital or the so called resort will provide the necessary care &amp; medical treatment. All these were organised efficiently &amp; collectively by all related parties. So question &#8211; why aren&#8217;t we doing the same? Pls ask our MOH this YAB. </p>
<p>Ask everyone on the street &amp; they will say our MOH not doing enough &#8211; apart from talking only &amp; passing the responsibility to the people instead. If that&#8217;s the case, the whole country should just go into quarantine mode. At least in Japan, people still go about their normal routine. Except those infected which will be taken care of. Same in Australia. This is why the tax payers there gladly pay their taxes! Knowing that they will be taken care of. </p>
<p>Here, our MOH is telling us politely to &#8220;yak-chiu&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: yokielaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>yokielaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello MOH,
What is serious? Everyday a few died of HINI, isn&#039;t that serious enough?If not what is the measurement of seriousness? Is MOH doing enough to curb spread.Now spread is domestic,goes to show actions not fast enough or effective enough.Do all public toilets and rubbish bins beefed up their cleaning?With the HINI,govt should issue directives to all public toilets &amp; shopping malls to clear their rubbish bins every hourly and clean toilets with Clorox every hour to fully curb spread and sanitized those rubbish collectors and mandatory to wear sanitized gloves &amp; masksfor sanitary workers and cleaners.Not sure whether MOH is doing this, but i notice like as usual &quot;tidak apa attitude&quot;.Look at how clean is our rubbish truck, each time a rubbish truck passes by, it leaves a stench of foul smell and filthy smelly liquid on the road.Look at our public drains mostly clogged esp those in typical china man shops.Look at the cleanliness of our public areas.What about public buses &amp; LRT? To curb hini spread, they should provide sanitinser before boarding, is this done?If not, spread would be out of control.All public workers should put on masks and those in public areas esp malls,cybercafes,schools etc.Prevention better than cure.
By virtue of the Law of Nature, if there is a condition, there is an existence. If the condition is condusive for HINI, then Hini will spread.So, MAA &amp; authorities should use this wisdom to treat the conditions and not the virus,as virus is everywhere.The existence of this virus is caused by a condition.If we can find out the condition and curb or treat the condition, then there will be no existence of this virus.So,MAA /WHO should study on what CONDITION does this HINI virus survive on. If there is NO CONDITION, THERE WILL BE NO EXISTENCE.EVERYTHING IS CONDITIONED.Western medicine always treat the SYMTOMS BUT NOT the CAUSE.WE SHOULD TREAT THE CAUSE USING THE LAW OF NO CONDITION, NO EXISTENCE.Hope Authorities look into this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello MOH,<br />
What is serious? Everyday a few died of HINI, isn&#8217;t that serious enough?If not what is the measurement of seriousness? Is MOH doing enough to curb spread.Now spread is domestic,goes to show actions not fast enough or effective enough.Do all public toilets and rubbish bins beefed up their cleaning?With the HINI,govt should issue directives to all public toilets &amp; shopping malls to clear their rubbish bins every hourly and clean toilets with Clorox every hour to fully curb spread and sanitized those rubbish collectors and mandatory to wear sanitized gloves &amp; masksfor sanitary workers and cleaners.Not sure whether MOH is doing this, but i notice like as usual &#8220;tidak apa attitude&#8221;.Look at how clean is our rubbish truck, each time a rubbish truck passes by, it leaves a stench of foul smell and filthy smelly liquid on the road.Look at our public drains mostly clogged esp those in typical china man shops.Look at the cleanliness of our public areas.What about public buses &amp; LRT? To curb hini spread, they should provide sanitinser before boarding, is this done?If not, spread would be out of control.All public workers should put on masks and those in public areas esp malls,cybercafes,schools etc.Prevention better than cure.<br />
By virtue of the Law of Nature, if there is a condition, there is an existence. If the condition is condusive for HINI, then Hini will spread.So, MAA &amp; authorities should use this wisdom to treat the conditions and not the virus,as virus is everywhere.The existence of this virus is caused by a condition.If we can find out the condition and curb or treat the condition, then there will be no existence of this virus.So,MAA /WHO should study on what CONDITION does this HINI virus survive on. If there is NO CONDITION, THERE WILL BE NO EXISTENCE.EVERYTHING IS CONDITIONED.Western medicine always treat the SYMTOMS BUT NOT the CAUSE.WE SHOULD TREAT THE CAUSE USING THE LAW OF NO CONDITION, NO EXISTENCE.Hope Authorities look into this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to highlight a shocking incident which happened in Klinik Kesihatan Selayang (Sungai Tua). The above mentioned clinic was scheduled to close at 9.30 pm. However as patients arrived around 8.30 pm there was a sign placed at the counter saying there are more numbers for patients (&quot;Nombor Giliran Sudah Habis&quot;- see attached images-

http://s813.photobucket.com/albums/zz60/JesCarol/?action=view&amp;current=Image2.jpg

http://s813.photobucket.com/albums/zz60/JesCarol/?action=view&amp;current=Image1.jpg).

        With the high risk of the spread of the H1N1 flu outbreak it shows great irresponsibility on the part of the clinic staff who rudely turned people away just because they ran out of numbers for patients. I personally saw the staff at the counter, in a rude manner, asking a couple with a very sick looking child to go to Selayang Hospital. I&#039;m not aware of any ruling that allows clinics to turn away patients due to shortage of numbers. I&#039;m sincerely hopeful action will be taken by the Ministry of Health to rectify this situation. Thank you

A Shocked Patient</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to highlight a shocking incident which happened in Klinik Kesihatan Selayang (Sungai Tua). The above mentioned clinic was scheduled to close at 9.30 pm. However as patients arrived around 8.30 pm there was a sign placed at the counter saying there are more numbers for patients (&#8220;Nombor Giliran Sudah Habis&#8221;- see attached images-</p>
<p><a href="http://s813.photobucket.com/albums/zz60/JesCarol/?action=view&#038;current=Image2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://s813.photobucket.com/albums/zz60/JesCarol/?action=view&#038;current=Image2.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://s813.photobucket.com/albums/zz60/JesCarol/?action=view&#038;current=Image1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://s813.photobucket.com/albums/zz60/JesCarol/?action=view&#038;current=Image1.jpg</a>).</p>
<p>        With the high risk of the spread of the H1N1 flu outbreak it shows great irresponsibility on the part of the clinic staff who rudely turned people away just because they ran out of numbers for patients. I personally saw the staff at the counter, in a rude manner, asking a couple with a very sick looking child to go to Selayang Hospital. I&#8217;m not aware of any ruling that allows clinics to turn away patients due to shortage of numbers. I&#8217;m sincerely hopeful action will be taken by the Ministry of Health to rectify this situation. Thank you</p>
<p>A Shocked Patient</p>
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		<title>By: PSM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro Kit,

For every Malaysian death, Liow &amp; Merican are responsible (&amp; indirectly the PM as he has chosen to put imcompetent imbeciles in charge of our Health &amp; well being)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bro Kit,</p>
<p>For every Malaysian death, Liow &amp; Merican are responsible (&amp; indirectly the PM as he has chosen to put imcompetent imbeciles in charge of our Health &amp; well being)!</p>
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		<title>By: oldman99</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldman99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.mysinchew.com/node/28129

suggest BN make compulsory order to all Utusan reporters to learn how to use kamus for english to bm. sorry. out of topic. 

on h1n1, how many &#039;reported&#039; &amp; &#039;official&#039; deaths related to h1n1 will only the MOH regard as serious? 

so many cases / speculations of h1n1 issues not reported or cleared of speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mysinchew.com/node/28129" rel="nofollow">http://www.mysinchew.com/node/28129</a></p>
<p>suggest BN make compulsory order to all Utusan reporters to learn how to use kamus for english to bm. sorry. out of topic. </p>
<p>on h1n1, how many &#8216;reported&#8217; &amp; &#8216;official&#8217; deaths related to h1n1 will only the MOH regard as serious? </p>
<p>so many cases / speculations of h1n1 issues not reported or cleared of speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a well know fact in this country that only the poor or the deprived will have to face the medical nightmares in this country.
The rich and the well connected will go overseas for treatment.
Under the circumstances, would the BN government bother to improve the health services by allocating more funds to such services?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a well know fact in this country that only the poor or the deprived will have to face the medical nightmares in this country.<br />
The rich and the well connected will go overseas for treatment.<br />
Under the circumstances, would the BN government bother to improve the health services by allocating more funds to such services?</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
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		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utusan Malaysia reporter Mohd Nizam Mohd Yatim thought the phrase “ultra vires” means “To insult”. 
Ummmmm, thought he would think “ultra vires” as a form of extreme virus, like H1N1. No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utusan Malaysia reporter Mohd Nizam Mohd Yatim thought the phrase “ultra vires” means “To insult”.<br />
Ummmmm, thought he would think “ultra vires” as a form of extreme virus, like H1N1. No?</p>
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		<title>By: karenleehs</title>
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		<dc:creator>karenleehs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks YB for highlighting my case, i believe many are desperately seeking the leads like i am to see what is best we can do for our children.

To #3 by AhPek on August 11th, 2009 21:13, Thanks so much for your very important lead, I have read this just now,

http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-sci-pneumonia4-2009aug04,0,6872284.story

and will speak to my pediatrician whether both my sons can be vaccinated ASAP. My email is karenleehs@yahoo.com

Frankly, i prefer to seek the natural path in regards to my son&#039;s situation, i have heard of the pheumovax vaccine previously but like all vaccine, it comes with side effects and i have been reluctant to let my child be vaccinated coz it will create a sense of complacency when it comes to his health everytime he gets a cold or flu, thinking that he will recover by himself. 

But in matter of life and death, i have no choice now....

As for 17 by yokielaw on August 12th, 2009 13:25 and #1 by charlieKC on August 11th, 2009 19:47, this is what i have been practising since the start of the haze,

1) drinking sugarless barley water everyday and also enzyme juice,
2) papaya after all meals if possible
3) no biscuits, junk food like keropok, mamee, fried stuffs eg (we hardly eat them),
4) wear mask whenever we go out (sometimes using N95, sometimes the three ply ones)
5) easily digestable food like porridge, pasta, noodles eg
6) don&#039;t stuff yourself with food
7) lots of water even if it means having to have a cane over their heads to make sure they drink their cuppa
8) try to sleep before 11 pm.......
9) it&#039;s important to have bowel movement everyday, eat enough fibre but not too much till it jams up your system.

I have just recovered from a bout of bronchitis less than a month ago and as such i have to follow the above practise as well.... even then, i occasionally still cough and feel the chills.......

To all mothers....... all the best in taking care of your children and yourself.....

P/S I saw in the papers today, the Pahang Royalties who are down with H1N1 using special masks with something that looks like canister..... anyone any idea where can we obtain them as well? All lives are lives regardless of how rich or influential they are right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks YB for highlighting my case, i believe many are desperately seeking the leads like i am to see what is best we can do for our children.</p>
<p>To #3 by AhPek on August 11th, 2009 21:13, Thanks so much for your very important lead, I have read this just now,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-sci-pneumonia4-2009aug04,0,6872284.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-sci-pneumonia4-2009aug04,0,6872284.story</a></p>
<p>and will speak to my pediatrician whether both my sons can be vaccinated ASAP. My email is <a href="mailto:karenleehs@yahoo.com">karenleehs@yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>Frankly, i prefer to seek the natural path in regards to my son&#8217;s situation, i have heard of the pheumovax vaccine previously but like all vaccine, it comes with side effects and i have been reluctant to let my child be vaccinated coz it will create a sense of complacency when it comes to his health everytime he gets a cold or flu, thinking that he will recover by himself. </p>
<p>But in matter of life and death, i have no choice now&#8230;.</p>
<p>As for 17 by yokielaw on August 12th, 2009 13:25 and #1 by charlieKC on August 11th, 2009 19:47, this is what i have been practising since the start of the haze,</p>
<p>1) drinking sugarless barley water everyday and also enzyme juice,<br />
2) papaya after all meals if possible<br />
3) no biscuits, junk food like keropok, mamee, fried stuffs eg (we hardly eat them),<br />
4) wear mask whenever we go out (sometimes using N95, sometimes the three ply ones)<br />
5) easily digestable food like porridge, pasta, noodles eg<br />
6) don&#8217;t stuff yourself with food<br />
7) lots of water even if it means having to have a cane over their heads to make sure they drink their cuppa<br />
8) try to sleep before 11 pm&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
9) it&#8217;s important to have bowel movement everyday, eat enough fibre but not too much till it jams up your system.</p>
<p>I have just recovered from a bout of bronchitis less than a month ago and as such i have to follow the above practise as well&#8230;. even then, i occasionally still cough and feel the chills&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>To all mothers&#8230;&#8230;. all the best in taking care of your children and yourself&#8230;..</p>
<p>P/S I saw in the papers today, the Pahang Royalties who are down with H1N1 using special masks with something that looks like canister&#8230;.. anyone any idea where can we obtain them as well? All lives are lives regardless of how rich or influential they are right?</p>
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		<title>By: yokielaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear LKS,
So far, our MOH only announced the numbers of death each day and increasing numbers of HINI cases but failed to give us public a demographic of the death and infected cases i.e. what race prone (maybe due to type of food, lifestyle etc, areas whether rural or urban, age group, their illnessess, so to allay fear and instill awareness).MOH must give us the specific statistic so far and not just assume the high-risk group.We want facts &amp; figures of those dead &amp; affected by H1NI,as a preventive measure.
Another obvious reason is the lack of soap &amp; cleanliness in public toilets!And the soap they should provide is not those that are just good for the skin but SOAP THAT KILL GERM I.E. DETTOL SOAP and not those foam / liquid (those don&#039;t kill germs, those are not effective when there HINI).Pls HELP HINI from spreading by providing DETTOL SOAP or ask MOH to issue this mandate to all shopping malls &amp; public toilets (KLIA,Sentral etc) to provide DETTOL SOAP in view of the HINI!! MOH did not curb this problem extensively.All schools &amp; public areas should be given temperature screening equipments and masks at entry points. Now the spread is domestic not foreign, so screen domestically as well and not only in KLIA.What about KL Sentral (any screening there).And what type of food or drink to avoid /to take by people to prevent the spread. I think with the many designers soap, we dont get to clean ourselves effectively.We should go back to use Dettol soap or soap that kill germs and not soap that mosturizes our skin.(i am not promoting for Dettol, i am just a home-maker concerned for Karen&#039;s son, feeling quite helpless and fearful).
To: Karen, avoid giving &quot;heaty food &amp; fried food or fast food&quot; and chocolates to son for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear LKS,<br />
So far, our MOH only announced the numbers of death each day and increasing numbers of HINI cases but failed to give us public a demographic of the death and infected cases i.e. what race prone (maybe due to type of food, lifestyle etc, areas whether rural or urban, age group, their illnessess, so to allay fear and instill awareness).MOH must give us the specific statistic so far and not just assume the high-risk group.We want facts &amp; figures of those dead &amp; affected by H1NI,as a preventive measure.<br />
Another obvious reason is the lack of soap &amp; cleanliness in public toilets!And the soap they should provide is not those that are just good for the skin but SOAP THAT KILL GERM I.E. DETTOL SOAP and not those foam / liquid (those don&#8217;t kill germs, those are not effective when there HINI).Pls HELP HINI from spreading by providing DETTOL SOAP or ask MOH to issue this mandate to all shopping malls &amp; public toilets (KLIA,Sentral etc) to provide DETTOL SOAP in view of the HINI!! MOH did not curb this problem extensively.All schools &amp; public areas should be given temperature screening equipments and masks at entry points. Now the spread is domestic not foreign, so screen domestically as well and not only in KLIA.What about KL Sentral (any screening there).And what type of food or drink to avoid /to take by people to prevent the spread. I think with the many designers soap, we dont get to clean ourselves effectively.We should go back to use Dettol soap or soap that kill germs and not soap that mosturizes our skin.(i am not promoting for Dettol, i am just a home-maker concerned for Karen&#8217;s son, feeling quite helpless and fearful).<br />
To: Karen, avoid giving &#8220;heaty food &amp; fried food or fast food&#8221; and chocolates to son for now.</p>
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		<dc:creator>GreenBug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>k1980 - in this time of crisis and concern for well ebing for the people, you still have the time and energy to spring an attack on Chua Soi Lek like this. I call this hitting below the belt. Tell him straight in the face that Angela Yam is looking for him, not like this... 

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I am not a fan of his too but be a man and hit him in his face, not spring a cheap guerilla hit-and-hide shot like this.

You must be with OTK&#039;s camp? Wakakaka...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k1980 &#8211; in this time of crisis and concern for well ebing for the people, you still have the time and energy to spring an attack on Chua Soi Lek like this. I call this hitting below the belt. Tell him straight in the face that Angela Yam is looking for him, not like this&#8230; </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I am not a fan of his too but be a man and hit him in his face, not spring a cheap guerilla hit-and-hide shot like this.</p>
<p>You must be with OTK&#8217;s camp? Wakakaka&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBug</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenBug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The power-that-be will probably brush this off as another stunt by YB Kit to draw attention and the spin doctors will start spinning their tales to divert attention. Meanwhile tens more will die and pay the price for inefficient medical attention and poor and weak leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The power-that-be will probably brush this off as another stunt by YB Kit to draw attention and the spin doctors will start spinning their tales to divert attention. Meanwhile tens more will die and pay the price for inefficient medical attention and poor and weak leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic but bound to be of great interest to a certain Mr Chua SL

&lt;i&gt;Soi Lek, Where art thou? Angela Yam looking for thou&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic but bound to be of great interest to a certain Mr Chua SL</p>
<p><i>Soi Lek, Where art thou? Angela Yam looking for thou</i></p>
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		<title>By: charlieKC</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlieKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all you need to know in

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all you need to know in</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/</a></p>
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		<title>By: gssim</title>
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		<dc:creator>gssim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AN1H1 is a international issues, not domestic created. Just put the politic differences aside, unite together, find a common solution for all MALAYSIAN for this Tamilflu. Let show a good example like &quot;Ah Pek&quot;: Cheer.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AN1H1 is a international issues, not domestic created. Just put the politic differences aside, unite together, find a common solution for all MALAYSIAN for this Tamilflu. Let show a good example like &#8220;Ah Pek&#8221;: Cheer&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ekompute</title>
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		<dc:creator>ekompute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Onlooker Politics, you make Najib sounds like the fool that he is... spending RM20 million for something that hasn&#039;t exist yet, LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Onlooker Politics, you make Najib sounds like the fool that he is&#8230; spending RM20 million for something that hasn&#8217;t exist yet, LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onlooker Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Najib is going to allocate another RM20 million to buy medicines for killing A (H1N1) Virus.  However, does Najib really know what medicines he is going to buy?  Is there really an efficate medicine that is proven to be effective in healing the patients of A (H1N1) virus infestation?

Najib may not be able to buy any conducive vaccine for A (H1N1) Virus as at todate because it has not been successfully developed yet.  It will be much more effective at the moment for Najib to launch a health consciousness campaign as soon as possible in order to educate the Malaysian people on the neccesity to follow the proper quarantine procedure to isolate any suspected A (H1N1) virus carrier. 

For knowledge about the present vaccination product availability status of H1N1, let&#039;s check out the following information from wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_vaccine 

&#039;The Australian company CSL said that they were developing a vaccine for the swine flu and predicted that a suitable vaccine would be ready by August.[16] However, John Sterling, Editor in Chief of Genetic Engineering &amp; Biotechnology News, said on June 2, &quot;It can take five or six months to come up with an entirely novel influenza vaccine. There is a great deal of hope that biotech and pharma companies might be able to have something ready sooner.&quot;&#039;

&#039;Testing of H1N1 Vaccine
According to ClinicalTrials.gov, Initial Phase I human testing began with Novartis&#039; MF59 candidate in July 2009, and phase II trials of CSL&#039;s candidate CSL425 vaccine were planned to start in August 2009, but had not begun recruiting.  Sanofi Pasteur&#039;s candidate inactivated H1N1 had several phase II trials planned as of 21 July 2009, but had not begun recruiting.  News coverage conflicted with this information, as Australian trials of the CSL candidate were announced as having started on 21 July, and the Chinese government announce the start of trials of the Hualan Biological Engineering candidate.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Najib is going to allocate another RM20 million to buy medicines for killing A (H1N1) Virus.  However, does Najib really know what medicines he is going to buy?  Is there really an efficate medicine that is proven to be effective in healing the patients of A (H1N1) virus infestation?</p>
<p>Najib may not be able to buy any conducive vaccine for A (H1N1) Virus as at todate because it has not been successfully developed yet.  It will be much more effective at the moment for Najib to launch a health consciousness campaign as soon as possible in order to educate the Malaysian people on the neccesity to follow the proper quarantine procedure to isolate any suspected A (H1N1) virus carrier. </p>
<p>For knowledge about the present vaccination product availability status of H1N1, let&#8217;s check out the following information from wikipedia  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_vaccine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_vaccine</a> </p>
<p>&#8216;The Australian company CSL said that they were developing a vaccine for the swine flu and predicted that a suitable vaccine would be ready by August.[16] However, John Sterling, Editor in Chief of Genetic Engineering &amp; Biotechnology News, said on June 2, &#8220;It can take five or six months to come up with an entirely novel influenza vaccine. There is a great deal of hope that biotech and pharma companies might be able to have something ready sooner.&#8221;&#8216;</p>
<p>&#8216;Testing of H1N1 Vaccine<br />
According to ClinicalTrials.gov, Initial Phase I human testing began with Novartis&#8217; MF59 candidate in July 2009, and phase II trials of CSL&#8217;s candidate CSL425 vaccine were planned to start in August 2009, but had not begun recruiting.  Sanofi Pasteur&#8217;s candidate inactivated H1N1 had several phase II trials planned as of 21 July 2009, but had not begun recruiting.  News coverage conflicted with this information, as Australian trials of the CSL candidate were announced as having started on 21 July, and the Chinese government announce the start of trials of the Hualan Biological Engineering candidate.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: ekompute</title>
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		<dc:creator>ekompute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-189184&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-189184&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;raven77&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
But then we all also know that the MCA just loves to be sodomized by UMNO..
         &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, I beg to differ. It is not that MCA loves to be sodomized by UMNO. It has no choice. Between the devil and the deep blue sea, MCA chooses the devil because the devil has some use for it. UMNO needs a puppet from each of the major races to claim that BN is a multi-racial coalition. Choosing the deep blue sea is political suicide. If MCA leaves BN, it cannot survive and MCA knows it too well. It will be mauled by DAP in any election. A TKO even before voting day. At least in BN, MCA can still count on Malay votes. How about that? A political party that claims to represent the Chinese but has to depend on Malay votes to win? What a joke.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-189184" rel="nofollow">raven77</a> :</strong><br />
But then we all also know that the MCA just loves to be sodomized by UMNO..
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<p>Well, I beg to differ. It is not that MCA loves to be sodomized by UMNO. It has no choice. Between the devil and the deep blue sea, MCA chooses the devil because the devil has some use for it. UMNO needs a puppet from each of the major races to claim that BN is a multi-racial coalition. Choosing the deep blue sea is political suicide. If MCA leaves BN, it cannot survive and MCA knows it too well. It will be mauled by DAP in any election. A TKO even before voting day. At least in BN, MCA can still count on Malay votes. How about that? A political party that claims to represent the Chinese but has to depend on Malay votes to win? What a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: raven77</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello..Hello..Reality check! Barking up wrong tree...

The lunatic who is running the KKM is that bump who calls himself DG; Ismail Merican appointed by UMNO...Liow can’t do anything about that..

If the MCA has even an ounce of dignity left, they should have the BN by now....

But then we all also know that the MCA just loves to be sodomized by UMNO..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello..Hello..Reality check! Barking up wrong tree&#8230;</p>
<p>The lunatic who is running the KKM is that bump who calls himself DG; Ismail Merican appointed by UMNO&#8230;Liow can’t do anything about that..</p>
<p>If the MCA has even an ounce of dignity left, they should have the BN by now&#8230;.</p>
<p>But then we all also know that the MCA just loves to be sodomized by UMNO..</p>
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