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	<title>Comments on: Selangor Pakatan Rakyat government facing a life-and-death threat with a high-powered Umno-BN conspiracy to topple it at all costs and restore Umno-BN rule in Selangor as in Perak six months ago</title>
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		<title>By: SpeakUp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189161</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winston ... BN has messed up BIG TIME. That is a fact. Its gone out of hand BUT PR came along PROMISING they will not be like BN. They shouted it out loud. See the problem now? That is why some are judging PR.

In the days of DrM everyone was making money, not just cronies. Hence, no one cared. Many want those days again. 

Singapore is a dictatorship BUT politically only. The people are given EDUCATION, JOBS and HOUSING. Basically, they could not care less.

People are worried that if PR who have been given A SHOT now, can&#039;t even work together at the state level then how can they run the whole nation.

That is the issue I believe. We are only asking for one thing. Work together for the people and STOP the bickering. Okay, that is 2 things. But is it not the very least they can do when they promised they would?

Read what ROK says and its so true:

We need to teach politicians a lesson. The civil society movements are going to soon launch ANAK BANGSA MALAYSIA. This project is being spearheaded by my good friend, lawyer, fellow Blogger and comrade, Sam Haris. Stay tuned for the launch soon. We are going to galvanise the rakyat into a non-political party based movement in the hope we can realise our aspiration of ONE NATION, ONE PEOPLE, ONE VOICE.

It is time we took back the country from the politicians. Politicians, both sides of the political divide, are just not delivering. They are screwing us good and proper. Politicians just can’t be trusted. If Barisan Nasional kicks Pakatan Rakyat out come next general election it is not because Barisan is strong, it is because Pakatan is weak.

We took 30 years since 1978 to get where we got in March 2008. The last ten years since 1998 was on a Reformasi platform. In just over a year the politicians are undoing 30 years of hard work.

Victory did not come easy on 8 March 2008. I wasted more than half my life to see what we saw in March 2008. And now they expect us to just sit back and watch them undo everything through their arrogance, ego, short sightedness, lust for power, selfishness, and self-centred and narrow-minded political agenda.

Give Pakatan more time, they say. You can’t expect overnight success, they argue. Barisan took 50 years, you can’t expect the opposition to achieve results in just one year, they scream.

No, I don’t expect overnight results. I am prepared to see the opposition build back, brick by brick, what Barisan Nasional destroyed over 50 years. But Pakatan Rakyat is not rebuilding. It is destroying even more. It is creating as much damage as what Barisan Nasional did in 50 years.

I can be patient and move forwards slowly. But we are not moving forwards. We are moving backwards. And I have no patience when it comes to stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winston &#8230; BN has messed up BIG TIME. That is a fact. Its gone out of hand BUT PR came along PROMISING they will not be like BN. They shouted it out loud. See the problem now? That is why some are judging PR.</p>
<p>In the days of DrM everyone was making money, not just cronies. Hence, no one cared. Many want those days again. </p>
<p>Singapore is a dictatorship BUT politically only. The people are given EDUCATION, JOBS and HOUSING. Basically, they could not care less.</p>
<p>People are worried that if PR who have been given A SHOT now, can&#8217;t even work together at the state level then how can they run the whole nation.</p>
<p>That is the issue I believe. We are only asking for one thing. Work together for the people and STOP the bickering. Okay, that is 2 things. But is it not the very least they can do when they promised they would?</p>
<p>Read what ROK says and its so true:</p>
<p>We need to teach politicians a lesson. The civil society movements are going to soon launch ANAK BANGSA MALAYSIA. This project is being spearheaded by my good friend, lawyer, fellow Blogger and comrade, Sam Haris. Stay tuned for the launch soon. We are going to galvanise the rakyat into a non-political party based movement in the hope we can realise our aspiration of ONE NATION, ONE PEOPLE, ONE VOICE.</p>
<p>It is time we took back the country from the politicians. Politicians, both sides of the political divide, are just not delivering. They are screwing us good and proper. Politicians just can’t be trusted. If Barisan Nasional kicks Pakatan Rakyat out come next general election it is not because Barisan is strong, it is because Pakatan is weak.</p>
<p>We took 30 years since 1978 to get where we got in March 2008. The last ten years since 1998 was on a Reformasi platform. In just over a year the politicians are undoing 30 years of hard work.</p>
<p>Victory did not come easy on 8 March 2008. I wasted more than half my life to see what we saw in March 2008. And now they expect us to just sit back and watch them undo everything through their arrogance, ego, short sightedness, lust for power, selfishness, and self-centred and narrow-minded political agenda.</p>
<p>Give Pakatan more time, they say. You can’t expect overnight success, they argue. Barisan took 50 years, you can’t expect the opposition to achieve results in just one year, they scream.</p>
<p>No, I don’t expect overnight results. I am prepared to see the opposition build back, brick by brick, what Barisan Nasional destroyed over 50 years. But Pakatan Rakyat is not rebuilding. It is destroying even more. It is creating as much damage as what Barisan Nasional did in 50 years.</p>
<p>I can be patient and move forwards slowly. But we are not moving forwards. We are moving backwards. And I have no patience when it comes to stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189144</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on some of the postings, there were some dissensions in this blog.
I would like to ask: Based on the past five over decades of BN rule, how many of you are happy with what happened in this country and IS still happening?
Would you rather see the BN continue ruling or would you rather give the PR  a shot at the prime ministership?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on some of the postings, there were some dissensions in this blog.<br />
I would like to ask: Based on the past five over decades of BN rule, how many of you are happy with what happened in this country and IS still happening?<br />
Would you rather see the BN continue ruling or would you rather give the PR  a shot at the prime ministership?</p>
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		<title>By: SpeakUp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189093</link>
		<dc:creator>SpeakUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes we need to have some ADUNs/MPs in PR to be sacked. Some are real sickos. They only care about their own race and religion. How can this be when PR component parties stood together promising that there will be a real One Malaysia?

Greenbug ... in a way I don&#039;t blame LGE saying that he washes his hands, he is so sick of the greed. However, you are right, perception is important. Should have been more polished in the approach.

mmz18 ... I don&#039;t know what to say about Ronnie. There might be some truth to the many rumours. I went to Wee&#039;s blog and some there have commented about Ronnie after personal experiences. Maybe the MACC will be able to dig it up. Perhaps, this is one time the MACC can do some good? Maybe if it happens, IF, then this will be the real wake up call for PR. We hope that PR does not need such a wake up call as it will be a great rally call for BN.

Jaswant ... wow, you are good la. Really good. From your statement I now revisit all the postings, I may know who it is now. Change of tone also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes we need to have some ADUNs/MPs in PR to be sacked. Some are real sickos. They only care about their own race and religion. How can this be when PR component parties stood together promising that there will be a real One Malaysia?</p>
<p>Greenbug &#8230; in a way I don&#8217;t blame LGE saying that he washes his hands, he is so sick of the greed. However, you are right, perception is important. Should have been more polished in the approach.</p>
<p>mmz18 &#8230; I don&#8217;t know what to say about Ronnie. There might be some truth to the many rumours. I went to Wee&#8217;s blog and some there have commented about Ronnie after personal experiences. Maybe the MACC will be able to dig it up. Perhaps, this is one time the MACC can do some good? Maybe if it happens, IF, then this will be the real wake up call for PR. We hope that PR does not need such a wake up call as it will be a great rally call for BN.</p>
<p>Jaswant &#8230; wow, you are good la. Really good. From your statement I now revisit all the postings, I may know who it is now. Change of tone also.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaswant</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189086</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaswant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jaswant … what happened la? Its so peaceful now.&quot; SpeakUp

Sicko is here under a different name la. I know which one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jaswant … what happened la? Its so peaceful now.&#8221; SpeakUp</p>
<p>Sicko is here under a different name la. I know which one.</p>
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		<title>By: mmz18</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189064</link>
		<dc:creator>mmz18</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronnie Liu is just like Khir Toyo of DAP.
Stop protecting this rubbish. He will drag PR government to the drain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronnie Liu is just like Khir Toyo of DAP.<br />
Stop protecting this rubbish. He will drag PR government to the drain.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBug</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189063</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenBug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t PKR just sack that Dzulkifli Noordin scoundrel? Do you really need that 1 MP on your side as though you&#039;re balancing on a 2/3 majority kind of thing? Sack the bugger I&#039;d say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t PKR just sack that Dzulkifli Noordin scoundrel? Do you really need that 1 MP on your side as though you&#8217;re balancing on a 2/3 majority kind of thing? Sack the bugger I&#8217;d say!</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBug</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189062</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenBug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YB Kit, as far my guess is concerned, the voters of Selangor are still with the Pakatan Government. It would be difficult for BN/UMNO to wrest control of Selangor. However, all these internal bickerings and juvenile behaviour of some of PR&#039;s leaders like Hassan Ali, Dzulkifli Noordin, Jeff Ooi, Loke SF, Ronnie Liu etc are undermining these voters / supporters further.

CM Lim Guan Eng&#039;s &quot;wash hand&quot; statement today re the Kg Buah Pala case was not done too well. Sure he won the battle of the minds re Penang voters but he could have done it &#039;more polished&#039; as not to alienate the Indians. There are many ways to skin the cat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YB Kit, as far my guess is concerned, the voters of Selangor are still with the Pakatan Government. It would be difficult for BN/UMNO to wrest control of Selangor. However, all these internal bickerings and juvenile behaviour of some of PR&#8217;s leaders like Hassan Ali, Dzulkifli Noordin, Jeff Ooi, Loke SF, Ronnie Liu etc are undermining these voters / supporters further.</p>
<p>CM Lim Guan Eng&#8217;s &#8220;wash hand&#8221; statement today re the Kg Buah Pala case was not done too well. Sure he won the battle of the minds re Penang voters but he could have done it &#8216;more polished&#8217; as not to alienate the Indians. There are many ways to skin the cat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SpeakUp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189050</link>
		<dc:creator>SpeakUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaswant ... what happened la? Its so peaceful now.

Raven ... DSAI is too busy playing Tok Dalang, he is a waste of time as we all can see now.

John Wong ... these new PR buggers think they know it all. Yes, everyone else is bad, only they know what is best. Wait till the new MACC investigations are completed, there seems to be potentially some rot. How nice.

Seemingly, the latest news today is PKR and DAP at logger heads over TBH&#039;s unborn child. Anyone have the exact news on that? Its sad la, TBH&#039;s unborn child is made an issue. Who is the sick person who started this new squabble?

When will it all end? When will PR lead this nation properly? When?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaswant &#8230; what happened la? Its so peaceful now.</p>
<p>Raven &#8230; DSAI is too busy playing Tok Dalang, he is a waste of time as we all can see now.</p>
<p>John Wong &#8230; these new PR buggers think they know it all. Yes, everyone else is bad, only they know what is best. Wait till the new MACC investigations are completed, there seems to be potentially some rot. How nice.</p>
<p>Seemingly, the latest news today is PKR and DAP at logger heads over TBH&#8217;s unborn child. Anyone have the exact news on that? Its sad la, TBH&#8217;s unborn child is made an issue. Who is the sick person who started this new squabble?</p>
<p>When will it all end? When will PR lead this nation properly? When?</p>
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		<title>By: vsp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189031</link>
		<dc:creator>vsp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a start, let all Pakatan component parties refrain from using the words &quot;Malay&quot;, &quot;Chinese&quot;, &quot;Indians&quot;, etc. when dealing with any problems. We are all Malaysians and this should be the case. I always have goosebumps on my skin whenever DAP uses the word &quot;Chinese&quot; to highlight the problems of the Chinese community. This is an indirect way of accepting the second-class status as final. Please, don&#039;t ever refer to any Malaysians as Chinese, Indians or Malays. Your are accepting what UMNO wants to be the reality in this country.

I would also suggest that when people fill any forms that ask for one&#039;s race, they should not tick or fill in that particular blank. Just leave it empty or just write down &quot;Malaysian&quot;. This divide-and-rule requirement has been going on for too long and it&#039;s time that the people put their foot down. I hope this suggestion would frustrate UMNO&#039;s divide-and-rule supremacy.

Once again, DAP must not cooperate with UMNO requirements of calling Malaysians as Malays, Chinese, Indians or non-Malays. Everyone is a Malaysian except those immigrants. If DAP can stick to this stand, it would go a long way in realizing a united Malaysia. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a start, let all Pakatan component parties refrain from using the words &#8220;Malay&#8221;, &#8220;Chinese&#8221;, &#8220;Indians&#8221;, etc. when dealing with any problems. We are all Malaysians and this should be the case. I always have goosebumps on my skin whenever DAP uses the word &#8220;Chinese&#8221; to highlight the problems of the Chinese community. This is an indirect way of accepting the second-class status as final. Please, don&#8217;t ever refer to any Malaysians as Chinese, Indians or Malays. Your are accepting what UMNO wants to be the reality in this country.</p>
<p>I would also suggest that when people fill any forms that ask for one&#8217;s race, they should not tick or fill in that particular blank. Just leave it empty or just write down &#8220;Malaysian&#8221;. This divide-and-rule requirement has been going on for too long and it&#8217;s time that the people put their foot down. I hope this suggestion would frustrate UMNO&#8217;s divide-and-rule supremacy.</p>
<p>Once again, DAP must not cooperate with UMNO requirements of calling Malaysians as Malays, Chinese, Indians or non-Malays. Everyone is a Malaysian except those immigrants. If DAP can stick to this stand, it would go a long way in realizing a united Malaysia. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: john wong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189030</link>
		<dc:creator>john wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very concerned as businessmen friends in Selangor who have voted DAP all their life now say they will not vote for PR anymore. This is because  their dealings with the Selangor EXCO have left them extremely angry and frustrated. The EXCO regard them with suspicion, as though businessmen are all out to rape and plunder and cheat the people. EXCO members are not familiar with the issues at hand and yet will not seek advise/input from others (for e.g. staff/ civil servants who are familiar with the issues). There is no harm in asking for opinions to get a better idea of issues. You do not have to listen 100% to what others say... you digest information and then form your own opinions. Instead, 
EXCO members either do not act at all on the matter at hand ( no decisions are made) or else they make populist decisions without regard for the concerns of the business community.
EXCO must stop thinking as though they are still members of the Opposition trying to get the popular vote.They are running a State and there has to be a regard for all parties in the State. The State Exco has to stop regarding Business  as enemies of the people. The people need Business and Industry and vice versa.

I write this as a person who is extremely disturbed by the increasing voices I hear, declaring they will no longer vote for PR.
State EXCO please do something  to save the situation or our struggles to get this far will come to nought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very concerned as businessmen friends in Selangor who have voted DAP all their life now say they will not vote for PR anymore. This is because  their dealings with the Selangor EXCO have left them extremely angry and frustrated. The EXCO regard them with suspicion, as though businessmen are all out to rape and plunder and cheat the people. EXCO members are not familiar with the issues at hand and yet will not seek advise/input from others (for e.g. staff/ civil servants who are familiar with the issues). There is no harm in asking for opinions to get a better idea of issues. You do not have to listen 100% to what others say&#8230; you digest information and then form your own opinions. Instead,<br />
EXCO members either do not act at all on the matter at hand ( no decisions are made) or else they make populist decisions without regard for the concerns of the business community.<br />
EXCO must stop thinking as though they are still members of the Opposition trying to get the popular vote.They are running a State and there has to be a regard for all parties in the State. The State Exco has to stop regarding Business  as enemies of the people. The people need Business and Industry and vice versa.</p>
<p>I write this as a person who is extremely disturbed by the increasing voices I hear, declaring they will no longer vote for PR.<br />
State EXCO please do something  to save the situation or our struggles to get this far will come to nought.</p>
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		<title>By: raven77</title>
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		<dc:creator>raven77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anwar....what happened to you....wake up....take the fight to them....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anwar&#8230;.what happened to you&#8230;.wake up&#8230;.take the fight to them&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaswant</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189015</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaswant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;SpeakUp, use your brain to think, not your backside.&quot;

Leave all things posterior to the master
http://limkamput-nincompoop.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;SpeakUp, use your brain to think, not your backside.&#8221;</p>
<p>Leave all things posterior to the master<br />
<a href="http://limkamput-nincompoop.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://limkamput-nincompoop.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: kbong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189014</link>
		<dc:creator>kbong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UMNO-BN even have Wee Choo Keong giving them a big helping hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UMNO-BN even have Wee Choo Keong giving them a big helping hand.</p>
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		<title>By: mauriyaII</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-189005</link>
		<dc:creator>mauriyaII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Can PAS and Pakatan Rakyat prove that this was only a “false sense” on Umno and BN’s part in the upcoming Permatang Pasir by-election in Penang later this month?&quot;

The above question is what matters. If PAS, DAP and PKR can work together to win with a thumping victory in the Permatang Pasir bye-election, it would be good enough to deflate the bloated ego of Najib, Muhyidin, Mukriz, Hishamuddin and Khairy.

A decisive victory by PR would not only send a signal to UMNO/BN that the 65 votes marjin at Manek Urai was a fluke because PAS was a bit complacent but it will also show what the people think of BN and UMNO.

First to achieve such a resounding victory, the components in Pakatan Rakyat has to take stock of the situation. They should not rock the boat further by playing into the hands of the UMNO/BN.

All Pakatan Rakyat&#039;s MPs and Aduns should have only one aim. That is to win as many bye-elections as possible to the runup to the 13GE. They should set aside all their differences. 

There is bound to be differences when disparate political parties form a coalition. But the very fact they are able to voice their differences in public is BECAUSE NONE OF THE COALITION PARTNERS ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF BIG BROTHER. That in itself is a valid and plus point.

There is no BIG BROTHER to threaten with the big stick unlike in BN where all the coalition&#039;s socalled partners are subservient to UMNO. There is no collective agreement of all parties in the BN. Everything is done by coercive force where all minor components are expected to abide by the dictates of UMNO.

To remove UMNO and its totalitarian rule, Pakatan Rakyat must bury their petty squabbles and work as a united entity. It must also ENSURE  that it does not field candidates in bye-elections and the 13th GE who have their own agenda. 

Remove the vermin, opportunists and potential frogs as and when they appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can PAS and Pakatan Rakyat prove that this was only a “false sense” on Umno and BN’s part in the upcoming Permatang Pasir by-election in Penang later this month?&#8221;</p>
<p>The above question is what matters. If PAS, DAP and PKR can work together to win with a thumping victory in the Permatang Pasir bye-election, it would be good enough to deflate the bloated ego of Najib, Muhyidin, Mukriz, Hishamuddin and Khairy.</p>
<p>A decisive victory by PR would not only send a signal to UMNO/BN that the 65 votes marjin at Manek Urai was a fluke because PAS was a bit complacent but it will also show what the people think of BN and UMNO.</p>
<p>First to achieve such a resounding victory, the components in Pakatan Rakyat has to take stock of the situation. They should not rock the boat further by playing into the hands of the UMNO/BN.</p>
<p>All Pakatan Rakyat&#8217;s MPs and Aduns should have only one aim. That is to win as many bye-elections as possible to the runup to the 13GE. They should set aside all their differences. </p>
<p>There is bound to be differences when disparate political parties form a coalition. But the very fact they are able to voice their differences in public is BECAUSE NONE OF THE COALITION PARTNERS ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF BIG BROTHER. That in itself is a valid and plus point.</p>
<p>There is no BIG BROTHER to threaten with the big stick unlike in BN where all the coalition&#8217;s socalled partners are subservient to UMNO. There is no collective agreement of all parties in the BN. Everything is done by coercive force where all minor components are expected to abide by the dictates of UMNO.</p>
<p>To remove UMNO and its totalitarian rule, Pakatan Rakyat must bury their petty squabbles and work as a united entity. It must also ENSURE  that it does not field candidates in bye-elections and the 13th GE who have their own agenda. </p>
<p>Remove the vermin, opportunists and potential frogs as and when they appear.</p>
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		<title>By: libertyone</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-188999</link>
		<dc:creator>libertyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yb,
the problem with pakatan rakyat is PAS.
Pas is too extreme. Pakatan would be better without PAS.
If pakatan ever fail, i think it is PAS&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yb,<br />
the problem with pakatan rakyat is PAS.<br />
Pas is too extreme. Pakatan would be better without PAS.<br />
If pakatan ever fail, i think it is PAS&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: SpeakUp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-188997</link>
		<dc:creator>SpeakUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>artemisios ... here is a nice quote from RPK for you.

Pakatan Rakyat must remember that it was not they who won the 8 March 2008 general election. It was the rakyat who did. And now the rakyat is no longer part of the equation in whatever they do. Pakatan Rakyat must be given a tight slap on the face”.

RPK prefers a TIGHT SLAP to the face. How ar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>artemisios &#8230; here is a nice quote from RPK for you.</p>
<p>Pakatan Rakyat must remember that it was not they who won the 8 March 2008 general election. It was the rakyat who did. And now the rakyat is no longer part of the equation in whatever they do. Pakatan Rakyat must be given a tight slap on the face”.</p>
<p>RPK prefers a TIGHT SLAP to the face. How ar?</p>
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		<title>By: PSM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro Kit,

We all know BN wants Selangor back. The question is why is the DAP &amp; PAS helping them? By continuously washing their dirty linnen in public, the PR supporters are going to get pretty fed-up soon. Look what happened in the last By-Election! Majority of 65 votes only!
Please (for the sake of Malaysians who want a change from this corrupted, racist, evil Government) do something before it&#039;s too late. I fear that Permatang Pasir will be the start of BN&#039;s revival!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bro Kit,</p>
<p>We all know BN wants Selangor back. The question is why is the DAP &amp; PAS helping them? By continuously washing their dirty linnen in public, the PR supporters are going to get pretty fed-up soon. Look what happened in the last By-Election! Majority of 65 votes only!<br />
Please (for the sake of Malaysians who want a change from this corrupted, racist, evil Government) do something before it&#8217;s too late. I fear that Permatang Pasir will be the start of BN&#8217;s revival!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: SpeakUp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-188990</link>
		<dc:creator>SpeakUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>artemisios ... its a forum that is free for all to speak. Many have used much harsh words against other forumers. I read what you write but I find it interesting that you generalise it all. Just tell me, where I am so wrong.

How come LKS wants to hammer BN non stop when there are issues within his own backyard. Why then do you read articles from anti BN bloggers who are now so tired. Why do you read forumers in Malaysia Today using harsher words than I do against PR?

We want to see PR succeed but is this how it works? Hammer BN non stop ... own problems are swept under the carpet? So you tell me how come this 12 year old whining school girls is wrong?

I said it before in the past, time that PR really works on getting together and moving ahead to hammer it in well in the next GE.

Being critical with facts is much better that trying to be hypocritical. Not noticing the plank in one&#039;s own eye.

I await your reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>artemisios &#8230; its a forum that is free for all to speak. Many have used much harsh words against other forumers. I read what you write but I find it interesting that you generalise it all. Just tell me, where I am so wrong.</p>
<p>How come LKS wants to hammer BN non stop when there are issues within his own backyard. Why then do you read articles from anti BN bloggers who are now so tired. Why do you read forumers in Malaysia Today using harsher words than I do against PR?</p>
<p>We want to see PR succeed but is this how it works? Hammer BN non stop &#8230; own problems are swept under the carpet? So you tell me how come this 12 year old whining school girls is wrong?</p>
<p>I said it before in the past, time that PR really works on getting together and moving ahead to hammer it in well in the next GE.</p>
<p>Being critical with facts is much better that trying to be hypocritical. Not noticing the plank in one&#8217;s own eye.</p>
<p>I await your reply.</p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-188988</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To perform the same Houdini trick they performed in Perak, BN would need many more KATAKS! If all PR statesassembly persons are firm and refuse lures to become kataks like Hee of Perak, I think it would be very difficult for BN to accomplish what it wants!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To perform the same Houdini trick they performed in Perak, BN would need many more KATAKS! If all PR statesassembly persons are firm and refuse lures to become kataks like Hee of Perak, I think it would be very difficult for BN to accomplish what it wants!</p>
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		<title>By: ch</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/08/10/selangor-pakatan-rakyat-government-facing-a-life-and-death-threat-with-a-high-powered-umno-bn-conspiracy-to-topple-it-at-all-costs-and-restore-umno-bn-rule-in-selangor-as-in-perak-six-months-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-188987</link>
		<dc:creator>ch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear All,

I have just been brought up to speed that the Registrar of Societies require a minimum 7 component members before they can register Pakatan Rakyat as a legal entity. My apology as I thought earlier that Pakatan Rakyat has been dodging the issue. Moving away from this issue, I do see numerous menial issues which Pakatan can actually do without should they have been more inter-connected. Regular internal meetings should be the order of the day so as to iron-out teething issues as they arise. This will prevent things snowballing as they are now. 

For example, Anthony Loke may find himself in a very unfamiliar territory as UMNO hammers him on his apparent comment on the Sultan of Perak and the Regent. This will probably be played up to the hilt at the forthcoming by-election in Permatang Pasir and would result in considerable Malay votes being chipped away. Not to mention the Jeff Ooi&#039;s case on JIM. Things aren&#039;t moving the way it should be as Pakatan continues being snuffed out on the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear All,</p>
<p>I have just been brought up to speed that the Registrar of Societies require a minimum 7 component members before they can register Pakatan Rakyat as a legal entity. My apology as I thought earlier that Pakatan Rakyat has been dodging the issue. Moving away from this issue, I do see numerous menial issues which Pakatan can actually do without should they have been more inter-connected. Regular internal meetings should be the order of the day so as to iron-out teething issues as they arise. This will prevent things snowballing as they are now. </p>
<p>For example, Anthony Loke may find himself in a very unfamiliar territory as UMNO hammers him on his apparent comment on the Sultan of Perak and the Regent. This will probably be played up to the hilt at the forthcoming by-election in Permatang Pasir and would result in considerable Malay votes being chipped away. Not to mention the Jeff Ooi&#8217;s case on JIM. Things aren&#8217;t moving the way it should be as Pakatan continues being snuffed out on the media.</p>
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