There should be no good reason for anyone who knows me well to suspect that my sexual preference may be a taboo in accordance with stereotyped social norm.

The Police Investigators’s strange behaviours were indicating to me that they had been caught in a biased generalisation about the sodomy cases and were being over-sensitive during a period of time when the news media headlines were frequently filled with the reports of long-lingering litigation of Sukma, Anwar and the Pakistani professor!

Just investigate this case under murder or foul play, inject some “kugan” elements into investigation, I am sure the truth will come up very soon. Just investigate who was the last person/s with him. Didn’t this is what most crimes are investigated upon – the last person seen or with the victim. Why should this case be any different.

Speakup,
I don’t know!

It seemed that they were keen to find somebody’s sperm on my buttock! Or they would like to find a big hole at my anus which could fit in a carrot stick! They took about 15 minutes to observe my naked buttock.

I really did not know what they were trying to find out from my body!

Jaswant … I know a cautioned statement is done the way you say but what about witnesses? Do they get the same statutoty caution too? I did not practise criminal law so got no idea. Ng Aik Guan did not teach me that bit too. Hahahahahaaha …

Onlooker … what notti thing did you do to enjoy such 4 Star treatment? Heheheheheee … I once went in too because of a silly argument with someone (who did hit me and I laughed it off) whose uncle was the ex CPO, the police were nice to me. I told them its ok, I know strings are being pulled and that when we all have to face God, go explain to God la. They did not look me in the eye. I sat one night in lock up but was kinda fun. Food was fit for dogs and a lot of mosquitoes! I did make friends with my cell mates too, teach them how to do a mitigation plea. Hahahahaahaa …

Jaswant,
You are talking about the process of recording a cautioned statement but it is not the process of interrogation.

Let me tell you my experience with the Police CID’s interrogation.

First, one interrogator (IA) will start shouting at you, asking you why you do this and why you do that. Before you complete a whole sentence of your words of mouth, IA will yell at you, accusing you for telling a lie. Then IA will reprimand you on why you want to tell lie. He will say, “Are you trying to be the Prime Minister?” Before you say “No”, he will continue to say, “Did anybody pay you money to do this?”

After a long series of firing by words of mouth, another interrogator (IB) will step in and play the role of a good cop. IB will ask, “Did your boss abuse you in this case?” “Did your boss play you out?” “Write down the names and telephone numbers of 10 persons you know.” “Tell me something about these 10 persons you know.” “Did anyone of them link to the case we are investigating now?” “Do you know what we are investigating now?” “Tell me, then I will help you.”

If IB fails to get useful information from your mouth, then IA will step in again and shout even much louder at you. He will use all kinds of vulgar words to create insult upon you. He will raise up a wooden chair trying to slam the hard wood chair into you. He may also use a new toy (something looks like an electric shock stick) to hurt you with electric shock! If you don’t want to be hurt, you have better told them about what you know. In the ISA detention camp, sometimes the interrogators will make you bath in Ice Water during midnight. If you provide no good answer to the interrogators, then IA will pass remark to insult your loved ones, either your girl friend, your lover, your fiancee, or your daughter and your wife (if you have one). However, if the answer coming from your mouth is found unsatisfactory to the interrogators, then you will probably be tortured continually and repeatedly with the same stress causing techniques until you either surrender yourself to them or die in their hand.

The interrogation techniques mentioned are the techniques which either I have personally tasted or I have seen them being applied to my lockup mates with my personal experience in the Police’s custody as a so-called witness.

No, this is not the way it is done.

The IO asks the questions and what he does is he reduces it into writing simultaneoulsy and in your presence. Once the questioning is over, he would let you read and if you want to make amendments to it, you could and then initial the amendment and then the statement. Once finished you are free to go.

If you employ someone to drive a truck between Penang and Johor Bahru, and he stopped in Ipoh, had more drinks than he could handle, and later killed someone, do you think you could be made liable for the act or acts of your employee who obviously was on a frolic of his own?

MACC must have rules for these tough guys to follow when interrogating their subjects. If they broke the rules, then they would be liable personally. Charge them with murder.

Given the relative scarcity of the evidence in this case, it may just be able to pass the prima facie stage of the trial. But would it meet the standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt? I doubt it.

Listen. If all you have is that the deceased was in the custody of his interrogators just before he was released, then there is not much to go on. If someone was seen going into your house and an hour later he was found dead in a drain some distance away, is that proof that you murdered him?

Had he died in the custody of his interrogators then they’ll have to answer for it. But had he died of a heart attack (assuming he had a medical history of high blood pressue and heart problems) not brought on by the interrogation, assumng there was no physical abuse, then the cause of death is a heart attack unrelated to the interrogation. The MACC officers panicked, waited for a few hours and then threw him out of the window to make it look like he fell and then think up a story later.

It is not a crime to be stupid.

You misunderstand. I have never said or implied that Teoh cooperated with the Outsider.

I implied Outsider possibly had “friends” links and contacts within MACC building if not within MACC itself cooperatinmg with Outsider.

These links told the outside that TBH was still in building waiting for documents/witness statement to be prepared by MACC officers for signature. Once he signed, finish lah Outsider’s name or his boss’s name was in it. What would you do if you were Outsider? Your friends would open the door from entrance without CCTV. Even arrange for TBH to be in a certain room alone, whilst waiting for Outsider to have access.

I agre it is speculation: but you think it might not have happened that way?

1. Interrogation was over 3 am, why would would hang around until 6am (as confirmed by the other interviewee) something in the building (phone not given back to him) unless there was something outstanding for him to do like signing a 10 page witness statement (summarising what he had divulged), which was in the state of being prepared (for hios signature, just in case he subsequently changed his mind)? Without his signature whatever disclosure was useless because witness staement not signed by him would be worthless for it could be argued MACC fabricated it tio impliacte DAP!

2. Allegations of triad connections – not done by BN/MACC but by members of DAP’s own coalition partner PKR (Amin & Wee) plus Johor DAP chief Dr Boo Cheng Hau. (Why would they concoct a non existent fact?)

3. TBH was retiring from politics. He had no need to cover/conceal anything that he was uncomfortable about for political loyalty reasons.

4. MACC being desirous of implicating Opposition had then every reason to protect TBH to make sure he was not harmed to be a witness. Only those whom THB possibly implicate would want to eliminate him to ensure he didn’t sign what he could have agreed with MACC to sign in witness statement.

5. Other information not mentionable in open blog.

SpeakUp is able to speak his mind. I don’t see how someone who claims to have a golden eye cannot see.

I have lost faith in Malaysia. There is no hope and future in this country. Evildoers will prosper while those who love justice will be prosecuted & murdered.