Update:
- Malaysiakini — Blog tries to pin graft claims on exco.
- Malaysian Insider — Bizarre twist to Teoh case
Proof of a “black blog” operation to defame TBH and 2 DAP Selangor excos. Check: http://tr.im/tPCn
Friday, July 24, 2009 19:01
Leave 4JB 4TBH Memorial 2nite@ Markaz PAS Taman U,JB Add speakers Hanifah Gobind Dzulkefly Boo.Grief anger must become People Power 4change
Friday, July 24, 2009 15:45
Ronnie Liu 2hold media conference 2debunk “blackblog” defaming TBHn 2Excos purportedly on “DAP corruption modus operandi in Selangor”
Friday, July 24, 2009 15:35
Checking on a blog (t4tbh.blogspot.com) which has made serious allegations agnst 2 DAP State Excos purportedly abt “DAP corruption modus operandi” in Selangor
Friday, July 24, 2009 14:13
Check twitter.com/limkitsiang for up-to-the-minute updates

#1 by OrangRojak on Friday, 24 July 2009 - 11:32 pm
I think it’s inept to say that ‘politicians will be politicians’ and also that ‘an incident is politicised’. Some incidents are harder to politicise than others. LKS even saw assassins in a punctured tyre not so long ago. The fact remains that a political aide from his party was found dead on the premises of a government agency who could – not unfairly – be said to be focussing their efforts on the Opposition, when they should be non-partisan. If the head of the MACC had been outraged, or leaders of the government had been outraged, at the time when the fellow’s apparently outrageous death was first revealed, Pakatan Rakyat wouldn’t have been able to make nearly as much political capital as they have.
To call for PR to ‘channel their energies into serving the people in unity with the government’, while it appears government organs may be involved in the death of their assistants and explicitly don’t give a siht, is worse than insulting.
I too want a credible report of what has happened and continues to happen, but ‘wait and see lah’, when all we’ve seen before is inexplicable death and cover-ups that wouldn’t fool a child, does not count as ‘credible’.
I wonder how many people have to die before imranj78 considers holding candles as not ‘dis-proportionate’. Either a ratio of deaths/candle or a floor number of deaths before candles are proportionate will do. Perhaps he could come to some sort of consensus with SpeakUp and adapt his ‘eye for an eye’ to a contemporary Malaysian setting substituting ‘political aides’ and ‘candle’ for ‘eye’ as appropriate. I expect there’s plenty of time before BN kills your father or rapes your sister – you’re right, things could be worse, eh?
#2 by Jeffrey on Friday, 24 July 2009 - 11:32 pm
Lim Kam Put, to point out your mistaking double quotes (purpose, to emphaize a word) from parenthesis (purpose, to mark insertion of an incidental thought/remark from a larger sentence in another direction) is intended more for you to help you correct your misunderstanding (hence the words “to your benefit”) than to ridicule. I don’t ridicule your English. Thats only form. The substance of what you say provide sufficient fodder for ridicule.
#3 by limkamput on Friday, 24 July 2009 - 11:34 pm
//Gee, you wrote to MCA and Gerakan using your real name and phone number to tell them they are useless but you come to LKS blog using a moniker and talk nonsense. Great!//
What to do, a monkey is what a monkey does, led by a chief monkey who has since vanished.
#4 by SpeakUp on Friday, 24 July 2009 - 11:35 pm
“The substance of what you say provide sufficient fodder for ridicule.”
May I say its RES IPSA? In a modified manner that is … hahahahaahahahaa
#5 by limkamput on Friday, 24 July 2009 - 11:39 pm
Since you insist, i shall tell you what parenthesis could also means : it could also means set aside. I have used it in a general sense. There is no need for you to show your one upmanship here. In fact, if you have not noticed it, that has been your hallmark which irriate people like me, ok?
#6 by Onlooker Politics on Friday, 24 July 2009 - 11:49 pm
“I expect there’s plenty of time before BN kills your father or rapes your sister – you’re right, things could be worse, eh?” (OrangRojak)
Extra-judicial killings have already become a pattern rather than an unexpected accident in Malaysia. Some kind of checks-and-balances system must be instituted into the detention procedures and interrogation procedures of the security forces before another crime of extra-killing is to be committed by some racist elements resided in the security forces. This should be the top priority for the terms of reference which are to be followed by the soon-to-be-set-up Royal Commission of Inquiry. Whether the true cause of Teoh Beng Hock’s death can be found or not, the improvement in the institution of system of checks-and-balances is still the most imperative thing for Najib to do in order to prevent and stop the possible occurrence of another tragic incident similar to that happened to Teoh Beng Hock!
#7 by limkamput on Friday, 24 July 2009 - 11:50 pm
To you monkeys and idiots out there, if what was stated in the black blog is true, DAP politicians and those connected to them would have been charged or blackmailed yesterday.
#8 by lkt-56 on Friday, 24 July 2009 - 11:51 pm
This blog is indeed a real eye-opener to me. It tells me one though:
In politics you have to be ruthless. You must have no second thoughts about using whatever means to get your opponent into trouble. If you cannot do that do not go into politics.
Fret not… Whether there is truth or no truth in this blog, stay on course to press for answers to why poor Teoh Beng Hock was found dead in MACC building.
#9 by Jeffrey on Friday, 24 July 2009 - 11:52 pm
“set aside” is (as a purpose) to mark apart a qualifying thought or remark from the flow of the general sentence in which the parenthesis is inserted. It is a different from “they” where ” ” is a double quote, not a parenthesis, and the purpose of double quote is to emphasise/highlight a perhaps special meaning attributed/assigned by you to the word (they) rather than set aside a collateral thought. There’s no upmanship here, I am just pointing to an error of use/understanding of the word “parenthesis” for correction. Whether it irritates you is of no concern to me.
#10 by SpeakUp on Friday, 24 July 2009 - 11:55 pm
Onlooker … I say the best way is to hang those who did that to Teoh, show that is how it will be handled. That anyone who does anything like that will be hung to die slowly. Its a great deterrent. That is the only way to make those animals understand.
Lkt … yes its ruthless, its very and some want to stir it up thinking they have people power? Sorry, in Malaysia people power does not exist. We are scared to die. That is a fact and we laugh at Thais and Filipinos, thinking we are better.
#11 by limkamput on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:00 am
Your one upmanship is not just about the parenthesis. It is who you are, got it? It is your prime attribute in case no one has told you yet.
#12 by dawsheng on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:02 am
In politics you have to be ruthless. You must have no second thoughts about using whatever means to get your opponent into trouble. If you cannot do that do not go into politics. -lkt-56
In BN you have to be ruthless, you must have no second thoughts about using whatever means to get your opponent into trouble. If you cannot do that do not go into BN.
#13 by limkamput on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:03 am
//That is a fact and we laugh at Thais and Filipinos, thinking we are better.//
Hello, no body in Malaysia thinks we are better than Thai and Filipinos, only those who can not think straight think so.
#14 by sA1nT_Jam3s on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:05 am
In Thailand-they have the blue shirts
In Iran-the basijs
GErmany decades ago-SS and the brown shirts
WE mustn’t allow even the slightest hint or thought of extra judicial and thuggish behaviour in our civil society.
We now see the cleverly orchestrated cyber troops being unleashed-timed to perfection as Sat/Sun will be the best time for scandals to surface. Just in time also for the next few days to wrap up preliminary inquiries…
But why o why..? correct me if i’m wrong..from Thursday til Sunday-where were the forensics? more than 72 hours..
RIP TBH
#15 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:10 am
Funny … the 1st document is dated before PR took over … hmmmm … what is the blogger up to? This is most interesting … bearing in mind Hannah Yeoh is unhappy with Ronnie over the Subang park development issue. The plot thickens …
#16 by Onlooker Politics on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:12 am
“I say the best way is to hang those who did that to Teoh, show that is how it will be handled.” (Speakup)
No matter what you say, the big question here still remains an unresolved riddle: “Who really killed Teoh Beng Hock?”
#17 by Jeffrey on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:14 am
“Your one upmanship is not just about the parenthesis. It is who you are, got it? It is your prime attribute in case no one has told you yet.”
You see in others what you are. Thats why you go round disparaging what others say and calling them names. Who would do that if he is not himself guilty of upmanship?
#18 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:15 am
Onlooker … like Dallas huh?
#19 by OrangRojak on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:21 am
My sister had frequent terrible rows with our mother when we were both teenagers. I clearly remember one particularly intense row when my sister stormed up the stairs, only pausing long enough to shout “and you always have to have the last word!“, which made my mothers face twitch visibly. She managed several seconds before shouting up the stairs “No I don’t!”
I don’t know what reminded me of that.
#20 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:28 am
Hey … I was reading about the Black Blog and how Ronnie will call for a press conference. This is called a BLACK BLOG to discredit certain people and it seems to upset many.
However, many find it ok for the PM to be labelled a murderer when Gobind does not have a shred of evidence in hand. So what gives?
Even Altantuya’s own diary has no link to the PM, even her own family has no evidence of her link to the PM. But we all wanna say that the PM is a murderer?
Are Malaysian’s fair? If we are not how can we develop a fair society? How can we eradicate corruption and all? I really wonder …
#21 by limkamput on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:32 am
//You see in others what you are. Thats why you go round disparaging what others say and calling them names. Who would do that if he is not himself guilty of upmanship?//
Just look at the way you pursue me on this parenthesis thing – I think generally people will know who is suffering from this superior complex and up-man-ship. You want me to praise you is it? Well, if you can write like sA1nT_Jam3s, may be I would give some. But so long as you remain a paid blogger, I will despise you. I know your standard, past and present.
#22 by bclee on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:34 am
can any one believe this site so call proof of corruption statement.
hahaha…. stupid insult of the malaysian intelligent.
#23 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:37 am
bclee … the documents at present show nothing much. At present … watch and see where it goes. Let’s see if its all nonsense for so fun or perhaps it leads to something. Only time will tell …
#24 by limkamput on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:38 am
Someone here wants to be the defend counsel for certain vip. Have a RCI then (even though RCI would most probably find nothing) to find out whether what this half baked defend counsel said is true.
#25 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:40 am
Dang … I thought I heard something … hmmmm … must be my ears playing up.
#26 by limkamput on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:43 am
A monkey loose cannon, that is the most appropriate term to use on you.
#27 by Onlooker Politics on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:43 am
Mahatma Ghandi ever said, “An eye for an eye. All will be turned blind!”
No one shall be able to justify the crime of extra-judicial killing with whatever reason. Even if the killer of Teoh Beng Hock can be finally found, a fair trial must still be given to the alleged killer in accordance with the proper legal proceedings or in accordance with due process of law before bringing to the conviction of the alleged.
We should not encourage any form of vengeance by putting law into one’s own hand! As a long-term solution, we should try to avoid the possibility of letting extra-judicial killings happen again and again in the lockup or in the interrogation room of the security forces. Prevention is better than cure. We should prevent happening of extra-judicial killings due to racist hatred by taking proper measure to eradicate all the racist elements from the security forces through a mental brainwash training that is to be done on all suspected racist elements in the security forces. The mental state of the top officers of the security forces must be frequently monitored by the designated medical doctors in order to help detect any clue of possible racist outburst from the top officers due to unbearable work stress. The top officers of security forces who have the license to kill but who have been driven crazy by the tough workload are the most dangerous men sitting around everyone of us. If Najib does not take any precautionary action in order to put check on the repetition of extra-judicial killings, then it should be warned that the next victim may possibly be someone coming from Najib’s immediate family!
#28 by lkt-56 on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:43 am
What we see is a very clever “tit-for-tat” fight between BN and PR. Now that PR is put under the same accusation (of corruption) and I am beginning to see the lack of faith in PR displayed by some supporters.
Disagreements within the ranks of PR also get some of the supporters shaken up to the extend that they turned cynical… asking what difference are there between BN and PR.
My faith is still with PR to continue to lead us towards a Malaysia that is free of communal politics. We must NOT waver from our objective of turning Malaysia into a two party system where the citizens have a choice…
I wish the childish quarrels among those who comment will stop. Instead let us reinforce each other in the believe that PR can and will take us towards the NEW MALAYSIA that we dared dream off after the March GE.
Let us not waver in our believe that PR leadership has the WISDOM to lead us through this trying period.
#29 by OrangRojak on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:47 am
Are Malaysian’s fair?
They look dark to me, but I wouldn’t give the benefit of the doubt to anyone who did what you’ve just done to an apostrophe.
You’re being obtuse, or worse. I can’t remember the exact circumstances of the “Come back here you murderer” thing, but I have a similar opinion of that incident as I do of the recent ejection of Toyo for “calling into question the bias of the Speaker”. Malaysia has the most incompetent public servants I have ever witnessed. Either politicians are free from threat to say what they feel needs to be said, or they’re not. By all means, call each other ‘blooyd batsards’ or laugh at the female mps for leaking, but after order is called, sit down and resume. Is an apology actually needed? I’m not sure about that. If a member won’t respond to a call for order, then suspend him.
Gobind was echoing the suspicions of many, which the government has manifestly failed to lay to rest. Regardless of what the truth is in the case of the exploding model, many don’t believe that justice is being done. Gobind merely summarised that feeling.
‘Black Blog’ is catchy, isn’t it? The media have already picked that blog up. In the perennial information vacuum that is Malaysia, it’s as credible as any other source. LKS dismisses it lightly at his peril. If he doesn’t place any importance in the online medium, who will?
#30 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:48 am
Lkt … its not about wavering support … you got that very wrong. Its about not interesting in seeing BICKERING. That is the issue. Fragmentation is the issue. LGE said it, RPK said it, Hannah Yeoh felt it … its real.
This Black Blog is not another matter causing wavering support, its just makes us wonder what the hell is happening to the nation. Tit for what tat?
Who the hell is running the country when time is spent to undo another?
#31 by OrangRojak on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:48 am
Onlooker Politics, please don’t make forecasts like that, not after the Prophet Ronnie Liu’s most accurate recent warning.
#32 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:51 am
Orang Rojak … its almost 1 am and your sense of humour is still revving hard!
#33 by OrangRojak on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:54 am
It’s just a shame this blog doesn’t come with glasses of beer. The complementary nuts could be better too.
#34 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:56 am
Orang Rojak … muruku? I like Paulaner Light … Heheheheee …
#35 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:56 am
I forgot … we do have some nuts here! Hahahahaaa …
#36 by limkamput on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:57 am
//If Najib does not take any precautionary action in order to put check on the repetition of extra-judicial killings, then it should be warned that the next victim may possibly be someone coming from Najib’s immediate family!// onlooker politics
Goodness me, loose cannon balls are really spreading fast, i think i better get out of this place fast before being hit by one.
I really hope your posting on July 25th, 2009 00:43 is a joke.
#37 by Jeffrey on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:57 am
“You want me to praise you is it?” – Lim Kam Put
Please spare me. From one such as you, a praise would be worse than an insult.
You said I was spotting and pointing mistakes instead of discussing some substance here.
I thought I was all the time doing the latter until I was distracted by your spotting and pointing mistakes and calling names, so what are you complaining now if I set aside other priorities and imitate you (nay adjust to your level) to do the same? It seems at this moment a pleasant and diverting thing to do. Imitation is indirect compliment, isn’t it?
#38 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 12:59 am
Jeff … like some beer and muruku?
#39 by lkt-56 on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 1:04 am
#29 by SpeakUp on July 25th, 2009 00:48:
Lkt … its not about wavering support … you got that very wrong. Its about not interesting in seeing BICKERING. That is the issue. Fragmentation is the issue. LGE said it, RPK said it, Hannah Yeoh felt it … its real.
The same (fragmentation) can be said of BN. ;)
Looking at how ordinary people here (who are NOT into party politics) are engaging in childish quarrels here, does it surprise you that the real politicians should have differences amongst themselves?
The real test of strength and maturity is staying on course with fully focused with your objectives despite all the distractions whether real or deliberately conjured up to distract you from your objectives.
STAY CENTRED, MY FRIEND. STAY CENTERED. FOR ONLY BY STAYING CENTRED WILL YOU ACHIEVE WHAT YOU WANT.
#40 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 1:06 am
“Looking at how ordinary people here (who are NOT into party politics) are engaging in childish quarrels here, does it surprise you that the real politicians should have differences amongst themselves?” – I Agree!!!
“The real test of strength and maturity is staying on course with fully focused with your objectives despite all the distractions whether real or deliberately conjured up to distract you from your objectives.” – very well put! ICHIBAN!!!
#41 by sightseeing on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 1:09 am
//However, many find it ok for the PM to be labelled a murderer when Gobind does not have a shred of evidence in hand. So what gives? // SpeakUP
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For a person to say that there is not a shred of evidence he/she is either a running dog Najib or is blind and deaf.
What about the statutory declaration of private investigator Bala?
Who has the authority to direct the immigration to erase the entry record of Altantuya?
Who has the authority to access to C4 from the inventory of the Ministry of Defence?
Two bodyguards of Najib were convicted of the murder but what about the motive? Irrelevant?
#42 by Jeffrey on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 1:09 am
“Black” blog alleges that your state executive councillor siphoned off state funds in 2008. This is denied.
If allegation were untrue, then sue the black bloggist for libel and lodge a police report against him for criminal defamation (as they did to RPK).
]I thought that the The Malaysian Communication and Multimedia Commission (Suruhanjaya Komunikasi dan Multimedia Malaysia or SKMM) in conjunction with relevant Internet service provider could ascertain the Internet protocol tracing/identifying the bloggist.
Is the DAP going to press SKMM to do that to exculpate its councillor from allegations of an anonymous blogger?
#43 by lkt-56 on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 1:14 am
#41 by Jeffrey on July 25th, 2009 01:09 – Is the DAP going to press SKMM to do that to exculpate its councillor from allegations of an anonymous blogger?
Why waste time and resources on politics of distractions? What are our objectives?
#44 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 1:21 am
Sightseeing … WOW! Amazing, with those 4 items we can really nail the PM!!! Whooppeeeee … let’s bring out the lynch mob. Eh … go to law school first before you want to talk like in a coffee shop ok. That itself is very insufficient.
Let me tell another story that is most plausible, not saying that it is the answer to the mystery.
You see this Razak guy was damn gatal la, he could not keep his d!ck in his pants so he was hammering this interpreter real well. He did eventually get her pregnant despite having a wife.
Now he starts to panic as she is pregnant, so she get’s really p!ssed off and tells him to hand over money (for her or as her commission we do not know) and if not she will probably spill the beans (about their affair or some interesting deals).
Razak panics, asks for help (maybe PM or PM’s wife etc who knows). Well, you get some mad war mongering bodyguards who come to assist. Razak wants her shut up and guess what they do? They, being low IQ buggers (why take her when there is a commotion, neighbours would have at least heard it and seen it BUT it was a taxi driver who said it) decide to blow her up.
Now, that is most plausible … better than 4 small matters that can miraculously pin the PM with a murder.
#45 by Jeffrey on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 1:46 am
IKT56,
What OrangRojak said in earlier posting – “Black Blog’ is catchy, isn’t it? The media have already picked that blog up. In the perennial information vacuum that is Malaysia, it’s as credible as any other source” on July 25th, 2009 00:47 – has some truth.
Black Blog’s allegations are serious. One cannot be allowed to make allegations, if such allegations are spurious, fabricated and untrue, in the public domain without personal consequences.
To pursue SKMM/ISP for Internet protocol of Black Blog with a view to identify/trace blogger to make him justify his allegations or face the consequences of being sued for libel or prosecuted for criminal defamation is one of the traditional methods by which the ones wronged by such allegations vindicate themselves. To counter allegations blog to blog, word against word, is helpful to an extent, but does not explain why resolve is not envinced in pursuing recourse all the way to make the blogger accountable for lies and misstatements. The absence of such resolve may convince some that there is some truth in the allegations that cannot withstand disclosure in a contested environment of open court, whether civil (as in a libel case) or criminal as in a criminal prosecution case (if the poluice should, pursuant to a report lodged, investigate case and recommend charge).
So it is not exactly “waste time and resources on politics of distractions”.
What are our objectives? To rebut the allegations as spurious and fabricated. So isn’t this the way, to go after the blogger making irresponsible statements which, if unrebutted by concrete action against him, will inflict irreparable damage on DAP’s standing, not to mention another round of MACC investigations (based on Black Blogger’s allegations) into the councillors alleged to have done wrong?
#46 by sightseeing on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 1:49 am
//Razak panics, asks for help (maybe PM or PM’s wife etc who knows).// SpeakUp
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I thought you said there is not a shred of evidence?
So according to the most plausible story of yours, Najib is guilty of condoning and cover up of a murder. Why Najib has to condone the murder if is not connected to the murder?
Why is AG, the lapdog of Najib protecting his boss from being called as a witness in the murder trial?
#47 by exile on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 2:06 am
This “black blog” is epic phail IMO.
Look at the first ‘proof’ (excel sheet that has been printed, folded then scanned).
Start date : 28.01.08
January 2008? How does this make sense? The election was not even carried out yet.
Second thing to notice,
ADUN SG PELEK – YB RONNIE LIU
Based on http://www.mca.org.my/English/2008GeneralElectionsResults/Pages/Selangor.aspx …
ADUN SG PELEK is MCA – Yap Ee Wah by a 1.5k majority.
This blog is utter bull**** and I’m surprised Malaysiakini even bothered to mention it. It’s a disgrace to TBH’s memory.
#48 by sightseeing on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 6:19 am
SpeakUp,
The reason you come to LKS’s blog is to discredit PR and to defend UMNO/ BN by practicing double standards, no different from the UMNO controlled MSM.
This was what you said in regard to the Black Blog: //Look at the content of the so called BLACK BLOG … how do we know its untrue? It may be … it may not be. Are we so arrogant that PR is 100% clean? Do we not need to try and investigate //SpeakUp on July 24th, 2009 22:25
And this was what you said in regard to the accusation against Najib in the murder of Altantuya: //Sightseeing … WOW! Amazing, with those 4 items we can really nail the PM!!! Whooppeeeee … let’s bring out the lynch mob. Eh … go to law school first before you want to talk like in a coffee shop ok. That itself is very insufficient.// SpeakUp on July 25th, 2009 01:21
Don’t insult people who talk in coffee shops. They may not have gone to law school but they sure know how to discern the barking of an UMNO’s running dog.
#49 by limkamput on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 7:12 am
Sightseeing, I am glad you see that there are so many half baked monkeys masquerade as free speakers coming here with the sole intent to discredit PR. These are the real spineless opportunists who are most probably paid bloggers intending to finish off PR when they see that the chips are down.
#50 by limkamput on Saturday, 25 July 2009 - 7:27 am
//To counter allegations blog to blog, word against word, is helpful to an extent, but does not explain why resolve is not envinced in pursuing recourse all the way to make the blogger accountable for lies and misstatements. The absence of such resolve may convince some that there is some truth in the allegations that cannot withstand disclosure in a contested environment of open court, whether civil (as in a libel case) or criminal as in a criminal prosecution case (if the poluice should, pursuant to a report lodged, investigate case and recommend charge).//
OH, go to court to seek justice and expecting the authorities to prosecute those who did wrong! Well, it depends who did wrong and to whom, got it? Where did you come from, Mars? Didn’t Perak PR go to court and didn’t they sue and counter sue? May I know what is the latest, the great lawyer wannabe?
Now we have this chief “masquerader” who proposes that DAP should make report to the Police and SKMM as if he does not know that all federal apparatuses are the poodles of UMNO. Look, if the black blog has any truth, those involved would have been charged or blackmailed a long time ago.
There are mountains of abuses and misdeeds happening among BN parties, but none of the monkeys here could see. We have this black blog whose content was not even proven and yet they are making mountains out of moth hills.
By the way, I don’t think we are fighting for a perfect society. Life is never black or white. Most of the time it is grey. Please don’t come here with holier than thou attitude. All political parties need funding to survive. Idealism is good, but it does not put food on the table and getting the greater agenda served.
Look, you fellows don’t have to take an opposite position just to disagree with me. I am nothing. But please be fair and honest with yourselves, at least intellectually.