Comments on: I will ask Anwar and Hadi to come along to impress on Najib why for the sake of the credibility of MACC and his premiership, there is no option but for a Royal Commission of Inquiry into Teoh Beng Hock’s unusual death from plunge from 14th floor of MACC hqrs http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:28:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Woof http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185881 Woof Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:44:43 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185881 "The great Jeffrey...the quality of your posting has dropped precipitately ..." Limkamput Precipitately?? If you’re not careful with your words, you will soon be precipitation. Or worse. Jeffrey, SpeakUp and the others will reduce you to cellulose acitate. “The great Jeffrey…the quality of your posting has dropped precipitately …” Limkamput

Precipitately??

If you’re not careful with your words, you will soon be precipitation. Or worse. Jeffrey, SpeakUp and the others will reduce you to cellulose acitate.

]]> By: hongsichuan http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185856 hongsichuan Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:48:02 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185856 "Public confidence in the Cabinet is not enhanced by the schizophrenic and self-serving reactions given by Ministers to Teoh Beng Hock’s death." Mr Lim, I do take offence by your use of the word "schizophrenic". The Ministers whom you were not referring are not known to have suffered from the illness schizophrenia. According to statistics, about 1% of people are afflicted with the illness. To make joke about schizophrenia or to associate the illness with the bad behaviours of politicians is showing disrespect to approximately 1% of the world populaion and creating greater stigma against them in society. Many advanced societies are now trying to promote better understanding of the such illnesses. Your remark does the opposite. You owe all schizophrenic patients (including the economic Nobel Prize laureate John Nash) an apology. If your conscience directs you to issue an apology, I expect it to be posted in a prominent place in your blog, so that it educates the public not to joke or make derogatory remarks about this illness. “Public confidence in the Cabinet is not enhanced by the schizophrenic and self-serving reactions given by Ministers to Teoh Beng Hock’s death.”

Mr Lim, I do take offence by your use of the word “schizophrenic”. The Ministers whom you were not referring are not known to have suffered from the illness schizophrenia. According to statistics, about 1% of people are afflicted with the illness. To make joke about schizophrenia or to associate the illness with the bad behaviours of politicians is showing disrespect to approximately 1% of the world populaion and creating greater stigma against them in society. Many advanced societies are now trying to promote better understanding of the such illnesses. Your remark does the opposite.

You owe all schizophrenic patients (including the economic Nobel Prize laureate John Nash) an apology. If your conscience directs you to issue an apology, I expect it to be posted in a prominent place in your blog, so that it educates the public not to joke or make derogatory remarks about this illness.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185823 limkamput Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:45:15 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185823 The great Jeffrey, Like all corrupted souls, the quality of your posting has dropped precipitately not due to your lack of intellectual prowess. It is because you are now intellectually corrupt, having sold your soul to your paymasters. Is there future for this country? I doubt very much because almost everybody, including the high and mighty talkers here are corrupt. I expect some standard from you lah. For others, they are merely loud mouth loose cannon, one liners and sidekicks. The great Jeffrey,
Like all corrupted souls, the quality of your posting has dropped precipitately not due to your lack of intellectual prowess. It is because you are now intellectually corrupt, having sold your soul to your paymasters. Is there future for this country? I doubt very much because almost everybody, including the high and mighty talkers here are corrupt. I expect some standard from you lah. For others, they are merely loud mouth loose cannon, one liners and sidekicks.

]]> By: OrangRojak http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185768 OrangRojak Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:51:44 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185768 by Woof: <i>he’ll go blind</i> The research suggests he'll live longer, have less cancer, be more fertile and - in common with many physical attributes - use results in strength, disuse in atrophy. There's absolutely no risk of blindness, only a small - but benign - increase in the amount of time one spends with one's eyes closed. by Woof: he’ll go blind
The research suggests he’ll live longer, have less cancer, be more fertile and – in common with many physical attributes – use results in strength, disuse in atrophy.

There’s absolutely no risk of blindness, only a small – but benign – increase in the amount of time one spends with one’s eyes closed.

]]> By: Callum http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185759 Callum Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:35:39 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185759 I think the objective of this blog becomes deviated. If u guys want to act like a child, pls stop using the forum. I think the objective of this blog becomes deviated. If u guys want to act like a child, pls stop using the forum.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185715 limkamput Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:21:47 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185715 Woof@sob, tell me what have you got, other than be the sidekick of others. come on, show me what have you got between your eyes. Both of you are paid bloggers. Woof@sob, tell me what have you got, other than be the sidekick of others. come on, show me what have you got between your eyes. Both of you are paid bloggers.

]]> By: Woof http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185704 Woof Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:15:43 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185704 "Lim Kam Put claims credit for the former and ejaculated (verbally) ...." He should exercise restraint or else he'll go blind. “Lim Kam Put claims credit for the former and ejaculated (verbally) ….”

He should exercise restraint or else he’ll go blind.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185694 Jeffrey Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:55:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185694 Maybe go crazy. To be fair, Lim Kam Put did suggest “YB Kit, may be it would be wiser if you can bring Anwar, Hadi along (if PM agrees). I know Teoh was from DAP, but it would better if PKR and PAS also come” in a posting on 18th, 2009 22:38 under an earlier blog thread “LKS wants to meet Najib at the first available opportunity after his overseas trip”. Whether or not there was any connection between his suggestion and Kit’s subsequent thread “ I will ask Anwar and Hadi to come along to impress on Najib why for the sake of the credibility of MACC and his premiership, there is no option but for a Royal Commission of Inquiry into Teoh Beng Hock’s unusual death from plunge from 14th floor of MACC hqrs” on July 19th, 2009, or the connection was pure coincidental, Lim Kam Put claims credit for the former and ejaculated (verbally), “Obviously you have not read all my postings. I suggest do so first” and "Anyway, don’t say I want to brag, ok. Sdr Lim now wants to bring along Hadi and Anwar to see PM upon his return. You may want to ask Sdr Lim where he got the idea from." The irony - and heres where the "intellectual masturbation” - is that whilst he claims credit for urging Kit, Anwar & Hadi to meet and impress upon Najib on establishing the RCI, he also at the same time inconsistently said that the “Bar Council and I were idiots” to support call for RCI since it is not expected to get in the truth, if past experiences were anything to go by - “It is my right to say that you and the BAR council are idiots. RCI as a method to harass the government into action yes, but RCI as a mechanism to find out the truth, you can kiss my ass. What happened to RCI on Lingam tape, and what happened to Police investigation on Kugan’s case? Just to name two” , he said on July 19th, 2009 in thread “Let Us Clean Up The Police Force And MACC To Make Malaysia Safe For Our Children”. :) Maybe go crazy.

To be fair, Lim Kam Put did suggest “YB Kit, may be it would be wiser if you can bring Anwar, Hadi along (if PM agrees). I know Teoh was from DAP, but it would better if PKR and PAS also come” in a posting on 18th, 2009 22:38 under an earlier blog thread “LKS wants to meet Najib at the first available opportunity after his overseas trip”.

Whether or not there was any connection between his suggestion and Kit’s subsequent thread “ I will ask Anwar and Hadi to come along to impress on Najib why for the sake of the credibility of MACC and his premiership, there is no option but for a Royal Commission of Inquiry into Teoh Beng Hock’s unusual death from plunge from 14th floor of MACC hqrs” on July 19th, 2009, or the connection was pure coincidental, Lim Kam Put claims credit for the former and ejaculated (verbally), “Obviously you have not read all my postings. I suggest do so first” and “Anyway, don’t say I want to brag, ok. Sdr Lim now wants to bring along Hadi and Anwar to see PM upon his return. You may want to ask Sdr Lim where he got the idea from.”

The irony – and heres where the “intellectual masturbation” – is that whilst he claims credit for urging Kit, Anwar & Hadi to meet and impress upon Najib on establishing the RCI, he also at the same time inconsistently said that the “Bar Council and I were idiots” to support call for RCI since it is not expected to get in the truth, if past experiences were anything to go by – “It is my right to say that you and the BAR council are idiots. RCI as a method to harass the government into action yes, but RCI as a mechanism to find out the truth, you can kiss my ass. What happened to RCI on Lingam tape, and what happened to Police investigation on Kugan’s case? Just to name two” , he said on July 19th, 2009 in thread “Let Us Clean Up The Police Force And MACC To Make Malaysia Safe For Our Children”. :)

]]> By: Woof http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185685 Woof Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:03:08 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185685 "Obviously you have not read all my postings. I suggest do so first" limkamput You're asking Jeffrey to indulge in intellectual masturbation. Are you blind? Jeffrey will go blind after reading all your postings. “Obviously you have not read all my postings. I suggest do so first” limkamput

You’re asking Jeffrey to indulge in intellectual masturbation. Are you blind? Jeffrey will go blind after reading all your postings.

]]> By: anna brella http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185683 anna brella Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:53:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185683 "Najib is dying to watch the Man Utd v Malaysian XI replay when he gets back. That’s might be his priority." - sheriff singh. I believe that perspective is spot on! "Imagine Power To The People" John Lennon. “Najib is dying to watch the Man Utd v Malaysian XI replay when he gets back. That’s might be his priority.” – sheriff singh.

I believe that perspective is spot on!

“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.

]]> By: StevePCH http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185678 StevePCH Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:37:29 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185678 is it of any use YB Lim ? seems like NTR 's case also needed a RCI and guess what .... Anyway, like limkamput and jeffrey said or argue about, anything is better than nothing. MACC officers are appointed partly from Police force ... the current investigation will probably just be a opera show. is it of any use YB Lim ?

seems like NTR ‘s case also needed a RCI and guess what ….

Anyway, like limkamput and jeffrey said or argue about, anything is better than nothing.

MACC officers are appointed partly from Police force … the current investigation will probably just be a opera show.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185676 Jeffrey Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:33:35 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185676 //My argument with you is similar to your position on Malaysian courts’ impartiality to dispense justice// Yes Courts are not independent, therefore don't make any application to them. Yes Royal Commission of Enquiry cannot enquire the truth, therefore dispense with it. Yes we are familiar with your arguments. //My argument with you is similar to your position on Malaysian courts’ impartiality to dispense justice//

Yes Courts are not independent, therefore don’t make any application to them.

Yes Royal Commission of Enquiry cannot enquire the truth, therefore dispense with it.

Yes we are familiar with your arguments.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185673 limkamput Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:22:27 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185673 Obviously you have not read all my postings. I suggest do so first. Until then, you are just laughing at yourself. My argument with you is similar to your position on Malaysian courts' impartiality to dispense justice. The rest i need not answer. Obviously you have not read all my postings. I suggest do so first. Until then, you are just laughing at yourself.

My argument with you is similar to your position on Malaysian courts’ impartiality to dispense justice. The rest i need not answer.

]]> By: Onlooker Politics http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185672 Onlooker Politics Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:22:10 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185672 "I said RCI would not be able to find out the truth." (limkamput) It may not be easy for RCI to find out the truth of "who really cause death to Teoh Beng Hock!" However, there are at least three important truths which we want to know and the answers are readily available from the MACC HQ, those are, (1) whether the MACC interrogators were given a set of guidelines for using the permissible interrogation techniques; (2) whether the interrogators did follow the guidelines dutifully and correctly when interrogating Teoh Beng Hock; (3) whether the interrogators were permitted according to the guidelines to interrogate a key witness for an extensive long hours, even after the normal office hours and extended to early morning 3:45 am. “I said RCI would not be able to find out the truth.” (limkamput)

It may not be easy for RCI to find out the truth of “who really cause death to Teoh Beng Hock!” However, there are at least three important truths which we want to know and the answers are readily available from the MACC HQ, those are,
(1) whether the MACC interrogators were given a set of guidelines for using the permissible interrogation techniques;
(2) whether the interrogators did follow the guidelines dutifully and correctly when interrogating Teoh Beng Hock;
(3) whether the interrogators were permitted according to the guidelines to interrogate a key witness for an extensive long hours, even after the normal office hours and extended to early morning 3:45 am.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185667 Jeffrey Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:06:21 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185667 "RCI would not be able to find out the truth, but I did say that RCI is a mechanism to pressure the government into action" - Lim Kam Put. LimKaput, I mentioned the need for RCI. So did the Bar Council. Maybe some truth will come out, maybe not but at least the government is pressured into action. Whichever way, nobody has said that RCI would definitely yield results. However if neither MACC nor police is suitable mechanism to investigate what other option is there other than RCI (which is what even Saudara Lim Lim is here suggesting and meeting the PM for)? So what is the basis for you to put words like "you want RCI to find out the truth and so also is the BAR council" and then proceed to say "It is my right to say that you and the BAR council are idiots.."? And now you say "Anyway, don’t say I want to brag, ok. Sdr Lim now wants to bring along Hadi and Anwar to see PM upon his return. You may want to ask Sdr Lim where he got the idea from." From you??? Hah hah ROFL. You said the BAR Council & I are idiots to support Kit's call for RCI (because we are idiots to think RCI could ferret the truth) - yet you are claiming credit to give Sdr Lim "idea" to bring along Hadi and Anwar to see PM upon his return to lobby for RCI? (And reason for that is because RCI, though could not find out the truth, yet could "pressure the government into action" - is that it? Is that the basis of your claim to credit for giving "Sdr Lim 'idea' to bring along Hadi and Anwar to see PM upon his return to lobby for RCI?" Your position is as inconsistent as it is incoherent. "Anyway, don’t say I want to brag, ok". What is there that you are bragging about - your inconsistency or incoherence? :) :) :) “RCI would not be able to find out the truth, but I did say that RCI is a mechanism to pressure the government into action” – Lim Kam Put.

LimKaput,

I mentioned the need for RCI. So did the Bar Council. Maybe some truth will come out, maybe not but at least the government is pressured into action.

Whichever way, nobody has said that RCI would definitely yield results. However if neither MACC nor police is suitable mechanism to investigate what other option is there other than RCI (which is what even Saudara Lim Lim is here suggesting and meeting the PM for)?

So what is the basis for you to put words like “you want RCI to find out the truth and so also is the BAR council” and then proceed to say “It is my right to say that you and the BAR council are idiots..”?

And now you say “Anyway, don’t say I want to brag, ok. Sdr Lim now wants to bring along Hadi and Anwar to see PM upon his return. You may want to ask Sdr Lim where he got the idea from.”

From you??? Hah hah ROFL.

You said the BAR Council & I are idiots to support Kit’s call for RCI (because we are idiots to think RCI could ferret the truth) – yet you are claiming credit to give Sdr Lim “idea” to bring along Hadi and Anwar to see PM upon his return to lobby for RCI? (And reason for that is because RCI, though could not find out the truth, yet could “pressure the government into action” – is that it? Is that the basis of your claim to credit for giving
“Sdr Lim ‘idea’ to bring along Hadi and Anwar to see PM upon his return to lobby for RCI?”

Your position is as inconsistent as it is incoherent.

“Anyway, don’t say I want to brag, ok”. What is there that you are bragging about – your inconsistency or incoherence? :) :) :)

]]> By: sheriff singh http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185643 sheriff singh Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:43:07 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185643 Najib is dying to watch the Man Utd v Malaysian XI replay when he gets back. That's might be his priority. The Star "JEDDAH: Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak was pleasantly surprised with Malaysia’s narrow 2-3 defeat to touring English Premier League champions Manchester United in a soccer friendly in Kuala Lumpur on Saturday. “We lost 2-3? I thought we lost 0-6,” he said in jest when asked to comment on the match result at a press conference after he had had an audience with King Abdullah Abdulaziz Al Saud, Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, here late Saturday evening." Just a perspective. Najib is dying to watch the Man Utd v Malaysian XI replay when he gets back. That’s might be his priority.

The Star

“JEDDAH: Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak was pleasantly surprised with Malaysia’s narrow 2-3 defeat to touring English Premier League champions Manchester United in a soccer friendly in Kuala Lumpur on Saturday.

“We lost 2-3? I thought we lost 0-6,” he said in jest when asked to comment on the match result at a press conference after he had had an audience with King Abdullah Abdulaziz Al Saud, Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, here late Saturday evening.”

Just a perspective.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185638 limkamput Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:27:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185638 second line... from the back second line… from the back

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185636 limkamput Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:26:56 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185636 Jeffrey, you are master to take the matter out of context. You lose argument in another thread and now you want to stab me from a back here. You are pathetic. I said RCI would not be able to find out the truth, but I did say that RCI is a mechanism to pressure the government into action. It is the process; it will never be the end. The end will come only when there is a change in Federal Government. You want to wager with me again. Remember you lost the last one over the ability of Malaysian courts to dispense justice of what happened in Perak Anyway, don't say I want to brag, ok. Sdr Lim now wants to bring along Hadi and Anwar to see PM upon his return. You may want to ask Sdr Lim where he got the idea from. Jeffrey, you are master to take the matter out of context. You lose argument in another thread and now you want to stab me from a back here. You are pathetic.

I said RCI would not be able to find out the truth, but I did say that RCI is a mechanism to pressure the government into action. It is the process; it will never be the end. The end will come only when there is a change in Federal Government. You want to wager with me again. Remember you lost the last one over the ability of Malaysian courts to dispense justice of what happened in Perak

Anyway, don’t say I want to brag, ok. Sdr Lim now wants to bring along Hadi and Anwar to see PM upon his return. You may want to ask Sdr Lim where he got the idea from.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185629 Jeffrey Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:04:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185629 Before the statement "I quote him" - there is an omitted statement - "However one amongst us consider all who call for RCI idiots - Lim Kam Put". Before the statement “I quote him” – there is an omitted statement – “However one amongst us consider all who call for RCI idiots – Lim Kam Put”.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/19/i-will-ask-anwar-and-hadi-to-come-along-to-impress-on-najib-why-for-the-sake-of-the-credibility-of-macc-and-his-premiership-there-is-no-option-but-for-a-royal-commission-of-inquiry-into-teoh-beng-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-185627 Jeffrey Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:02:25 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5221#comment-185627 I repeat the substance of my posting in the other thread. You are right that there's no other option but for a Royal Commission of Enquiry (RCI). RCI is the only institutional mechanism available to address this kind of abuse and make it come to public light. As I have said in posting in earlier thread on same subject:- · MACC’s conduct of internal investigation cannot be counted upon to be able to make an objective and impartial determination of a high profile case involving its own possible lache and its own officers’ wrong doing. It cannot be a fair judge of its own case. · the other alternative is police but police themselves are under long shadow of A Kugan’s custodial death, yet unresolved, so how could they be counted upon to investigate the other branch regarding a common accusation to which both branches are subject? So other than MACC or police, which other body there is (besides RCI) will be in the position to enquire and investigate such a case? NGOs like the Bar Council, Kuala Lumpur and Selangor Chinese Assembly Hall, Centre for Independent Journalism, Centre for Policy Initiatives, Group of Concerned Citizens, Malaysia Youth and Student Democratic Movement, Persatuan Kesedaran Komuniti Selangor and Jamaah Islah Malaysia have called for RCI. Even MCA Chew Mai Fun. I quote him: ///You want RCI to find out the truth and so also is the BAR council. It is my right to say that you and the BAR council are idiots. RCI as a method to harass the government into action yes, but RCI as a mechanism to find out the truth, you can kiss my ass. What happened to RCI on Lingam tape, and what happened to Police investigation on Kugan’s case? Just to name two./// – LimKamPut. To him only a Lim Kam Put Commission of Enquiry would do. :) I repeat the substance of my posting in the other thread.

You are right that there’s no other option but for a Royal Commission of Enquiry (RCI).

RCI is the only institutional mechanism available to address this kind of abuse and make it come to public light.

As I have said in posting in earlier thread on same subject:-

· MACC’s conduct of internal investigation cannot be counted upon to be able to make an objective and impartial determination of a high profile case involving its own possible lache and its own officers’ wrong doing. It cannot be a fair judge of its own case.

· the other alternative is police but police themselves are under long shadow of A Kugan’s custodial death, yet unresolved, so how could they be counted upon to investigate the other branch regarding a common accusation to which both branches are subject?

So other than MACC or police, which other body there is (besides RCI) will be in the position to enquire and investigate such a case?

NGOs like the Bar Council, Kuala Lumpur and Selangor Chinese Assembly Hall, Centre for Independent Journalism, Centre for Policy Initiatives, Group of Concerned Citizens, Malaysia Youth and Student Democratic Movement, Persatuan Kesedaran Komuniti Selangor and Jamaah Islah Malaysia have called for RCI. Even MCA Chew Mai Fun.

I quote him:

///You want RCI to find out the truth and so also is the BAR council. It is my right to say that you and the BAR council are idiots. RCI as a method to harass the government into action yes, but RCI as a mechanism to find out the truth, you can kiss my ass. What happened to RCI on Lingam tape, and what happened to Police investigation on Kugan’s case? Just to name two./// – LimKamPut.

To him only a Lim Kam Put Commission of Enquiry would do. :)

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